From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 7 Aug 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 07 Aug 1996 02:12:30 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 7 Aug 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: RE: Count Me In shirts and.... Re: soundgarden haiku Re: overfloater Re: SG Unplugged? Touring partners Re: THE BeST SG ALBuM #somms Re: Re: sg response RE: Sommsfest 96 Re: Sommsfest 96 Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia Re: sg response New thread for ya... But Susan,I was just kidding about doing those things to him!!! another version? RE: Sommsfest 96 songs w/ bands name for a title heartland somms... RE: #somms RE: metallifucks Warning - NO SOUNDGARDEN CONTENT - Sorry Seth Too Young to Drink? Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia songs Re: heartland somms... correction.... Re: heartland somms/Cheap Tickets a lolla review Re: a lolla review Sommsfest 96 amplification: forwarding stuff RE: a lolla review 07/25/96 RE: metallifucks Chris Farley Song/Album Discussion =P Kim, Chris, Flotsam, Jetsam, Newstad, Cooke . . . Re: MATT'S BASS DRUM HEADS Re: sg response Re: 07/25/96 Burden re-re-revisited... only kidding!! #somms Like promised...Irvine-Lolla I've been elected to rock your asses 'til midnight RE: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia ------------------------------------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: RE: Count Me In Greg Fox wrote: >I just received my copy of BMF/SOMMS today in the mail from the blessed SOMMS >goddess. Please mark me down as having a copy (whoever is keeping track). I totally forgot to post to the list that I got one too!! Actually, I call her "The Blessed SOMMS Finder." I got it a couple weeks ago and I guess the reason I forgot to post is the horror story that accompanied it's arrival. No, it didn't get lost....but.... I was just EXTREMELY excited when I knew it had arrived. I wasn't prepared for the fact the my husband, who just about hates SG, and a buddy of ours played golf, had a few beers and OPENED MY PACKAGE. THEN THEY PLAYED IT. THEN THEY SAID I GOT RIPPED OFF SINCE I ALREADY HAD BMF. I'm over it now (pretty much), but I was in pure shock, disbelief and insane depression over the whole incident. Oh, and the boys did finally figure it out, "Hey, there's another CD in here." I've been called a saint for not getting violent over the whole thing, but at least I have it! Thank you, thank you oh Blessed SOMMS Finder!!!!! So, count me in as a SOMMS owner. Bonnie ------------------------------ From: Mo Subject: Uh... this might look a bit funny, me replying to my own message and all... (Makes me look like a bit of a loner really, doesn't it :( ) But anyhow... just thought you all might like to know that the singer from Silverchair wore the SG shirt mentioned below while touring... I saw a load of shots in KERRANG! magazine (NO, I DID NOT GO TO A SILVERCHAIR CONCERT) Hope this helps with life in general... Mo. - ---------- From: Mo[SMTP:majoc@indigo.ie] Sent: 05 August 1996 19:35 To: 'somms@mit.edu' Subject: SG shirt Anyone got that really silly looking SG shirt with a broken Tricycle as a front print and for a back print, a wheel saying "Come stand me up" Jeez am I sorry for buying that... Mo. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: shirts and.... yes! it arrived today!!! a minor point, but still : didn't the mailing cost include an envelope? wait, before you all yell at me for being petty, if we all paid $3.80 for postage in the US for one shirt, and it only cost him $3.00 to mail it -- the express mail envelope i got my shirt in didn't cost him ANYTHING -- he made $.80 profit on the deal. $.80 x 10, that's $8.00 $.80 x 100, that's $80.00 ...PROFIT. was this a lot of work? YES. was he entitled to make any profit on this? NO. hell, seth bought four shirts for band members and he paid for them HIMSELF. fuck, i'd think as list manager he'd be entitled to a (&^% free shirt! or that at least he wouldn't have to pay for the band member shirts! imo, the only perc nothingman was entitled to was a free shirt for himself. IF he managed to live up to his promises. beating a dead horse, - --caryn ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: soundgarden haiku At 10:28 PM 7/22/96 -0400, Neuromute@aol.com wrote: >Read an article in the Wall Street Journal (sorry...) that said haiku is all >the rage on the 'net. Since I didn't really get into the "You know you are >obsessed with" thread, maybe I can start a new one . . . > >My haiku in anticipation of this Thursdays Lollapalloza..... > >Ben Sheperd plays bass >Hates redneck motherfuckers . . . >Welcome to Texas > >anyone . . . ? > > Cameron, Cornell music unparalleled Thayil, Ben Shepherd Umm...that was pretty bad, huh? Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Opiate" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Tool |____________________________________| "Choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf & blind & dumb and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to use you. Like me... Like me... If you want to get your sould to heaven, trust in me, don't you judge or question. You are broken, only faith can heal you, just do everything I tell you to do My God's will/becomes me when he speaks out/he speaks through me He has needs like I do We both want to rape you jesus christ why don't you come save my life now open my eyes and blind me with your light . . . and lies" ---"Opiate" Tool ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: overfloater At 10:10 PM 7/22/96 -0500, infinite wrote: >to anyone who cares: > > >heres what i think the intro is to overfloater low to high CGDGBE (i >play in Eb usually but it makes little difference) > > > \/---it gets iffy here >G---10-9-10-9--9-10-9-7 >C----0-0--0-0--0--0-0-0 > >plus the first few "i wanna make it right" parts >(after intro part) > slide PM the open C's >D--5/7----7-7-10 >G--5/7----7-7-10 >C--0-0-0-0-0-0-0 > w/ or w/o the open C, w/o i'd substitute scratches for them > >maybe this will get someone started who has a better ear than mine >(pretty much anyone)to do it right (like the song) Dammit! I thought I might have had it. I'm pretty bad at figuring out tabs tho. Here's what I got for the intro: D------------------------------------------ A--8b--5-8--5--8--5--10p8------------------ D--0---0-0--0--0--0--0--------------------- Oh well, I'm just doing it from memory anyway. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Opiate" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Tool |____________________________________| "Choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf & blind & dumb and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to use you. Like me... Like me... If you want to get your sould to heaven, trust in me, don't you judge or question. You are broken, only faith can heal you, just do everything I tell you to do My God's will/becomes me when he speaks out/he speaks through me He has needs like I do We both want to rape you jesus christ why don't you come save my life now open my eyes and blind me with your light . . . and lies" ---"Opiate" Tool ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: SG Unplugged? At 09:02 AM 7/30/96 -0400, j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: >> >> OK. PJ's done it... Nirvana's done it...AIC has done it... hell, even >> RATT has done it (joke). How cool would it be if SG pushed out an >> unplugged? Anyone think this would be a good idea? If so, what would >> be a good unplugged setlist? Hmmmm...I wonder what JCP would sound >> like acoustically? Comments? Later, Taylor > Here would be my setlist: (in no particular order) 1)Dusty 2)Tighter & Tighter 3)FoBD 4)Blow up the Outside World 5)Cold Bitch (it sounds good on acoustic...trust me) 6)Fresh Deadly Roses 7)I Awake 8)Outshined 9)Spoonman 10)Mind Riot 11)Fluttergirl 12)Overfloater 13)Like Suicide I know, there's not a lot of early stuff up there...but, c'mon, SG's early stuff wouldn't sound that great on acoustic guitars. Sorry Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Opiate" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Tool |____________________________________| "Choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf & blind & dumb and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to use you. Like me... Like me... If you want to get your sould to heaven, trust in me, don't you judge or question. You are broken, only faith can heal you, just do everything I tell you to do My God's will/becomes me when he speaks out/he speaks through me He has needs like I do We both want to rape you jesus christ why don't you come save my life now open my eyes and blind me with your light . . . and lies" ---"Opiate" Tool ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Touring partners Well, it seems that the consensus for a touring partner for SG is Tool. Nevermind that I suggested it about a month ago Anyway, that'd be so fucking cool. However, I wouldn't think Tool would want Lolla syndrome, where they'd be known as "the band that opens for Soundgarden" They are a musical powerhouse in their own right. Kind of an equal partners thing would be cool, where they each get the same amount of stage time. (preferably 2 HOURS APIECE!!! Hey, a guy can dream). Anyway, I think a S O U N D G A R D E N & T O O L tour would kick major ass. Matt, are you listening? :) Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Opiate" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Tool |____________________________________| "Choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf & blind & dumb and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to use you. Like me... Like me... If you want to get your sould to heaven, trust in me, don't you judge or question. You are broken, only faith can heal you, just do everything I tell you to do My God's will/becomes me when he speaks out/he speaks through me He has needs like I do We both want to rape you jesus christ why don't you come save my life now open my eyes and blind me with your light . . . and lies" ---"Opiate" Tool ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: THE BeST SG ALBuM >>> The songs aren't hard to figure out chordwise. > >In my opinion, that isn't good. SG should be complex enough where few can >play their chords. Wait, just a sec, bro. Since when does super complex = good ? Since never. Though complex can sometimes interesting, a lot of times it adds up to a lot of weird sounds together. Ahem, noise, if you will. Think about how ear pleasing FoBD's main riff is...it's based upon two power chords....what's more, one's right above the other one...not really mind bending stuff. Sure, there are extremely complex songs that are popular (Stairway to Heaven), but these are rarities, and marks of true songwriting genius in one moment of inspiration. No offense to CC, but he is no Jimmy Page. I just think you're off the mark on that comment. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Opiate" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Tool |____________________________________| "Choices always were a problem for you, what you need is someone strong to guide you. Deaf & blind & dumb and born to follow, what you need is someone strong to use you. Like me... Like me... If you want to get your sould to heaven, trust in me, don't you judge or question. You are broken, only faith can heal you, just do everything I tell you to do My God's will/becomes me when he speaks out/he speaks through me He has needs like I do We both want to rape you jesus christ why don't you come save my life now open my eyes and blind me with your light . . . and lies" ---"Opiate" Tool ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: #somms Hey, I'm gonna be hangin out in Mr. Somms Neigborhood for a while, come join me, the water is warm and the martini's are cold. The List Thug, Aaron ------------------------------ From: kjm@mtool.com (Karen Monoker) Subject: Re: Re: sg response "nobody likes to see the frontman of one of their favourite groups act like a complete idiot in the name of "Rock 'n Roll" or some other trite excuse for a cause... .bug" When did CC ever act like a complete idiot? I think that he is incredible no matter what he does. And to everyone else who got a little ticked off at me for trying to say that it is ok for Chris to drink, I care about him and the band too! That is not what I meant. Of course we all would like him to be healthy, and we don't want him to screw himself up so that he can't play shows, but that really is not up to us. Granted they are rock stars, their job is to make music and that in turn makes them want to make their fans happy with their music. But I would hope that first and foremost they want to write and play music for themselves, otherwise they would not be happy. So if Chris decides to drink himself into oblivion sometimes (I certainly do not agree with whoever said he is constantly drunk!) that is his choice and should really not affect any of his fans. I don't think that if any of us got loaded the whole list would care. Also do you really think that he has to rest his voice right now because of his drinking and smoking? I agree those things probably don't help but if you sang like Chris does almost daily for months during Lolla especially, I think your vocal chords would hurt too, no matter what else you did! Just my thoughts, no need to get angry :) Karen ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: RE: Sommsfest 96 >okay gang, let's be realistic... > >there's no way in HELL the band are going to play a private gig for list >members only. or maybe a fan club/list gig. but let's be real here. i >was joking... more or less thinking that when the band play seattle, it >would be nice for a bunch of us to get together. but a *real* convention, >with hotel rooms and convention rooms and the like, is a SHITLOAD of work, >money, legal problems... and is beyond our reach, at least at the moment. > I don't think we were actually thinking of a _convention_ convention. I'm pretty sure we were all using the term loosely as an excuse to gather a bunch of us in one place. I know other mailing lists have done it. I personally have never participated in such a gathering, but of the mailing lists I've been on, somms has the strongest sense of community and the people I feel I would be most comfortable meeting in person. >that was the whole reasoning behind the tshirts... so we had a way to >identify each other at lolla. hopefully... we will have them by the >fall/winter tour (or at this rate, we might just have new shirts by then). I think the idea behind the 'convention' was that there were some small gatherings of sommsters in one list member's city. The way this 'con' would work, would be that it's an open invitation for anyone to go to the city and meet on neutral ground. Less exclusionary. Safer. More fun. > >and right in the middle of the country wouldn't necessarily be the most >convenient for everyone. if that was the case, all conventions would >always be held in kansas city or st. louis or something like that... Actually, a central location (a mean distance from each sommsters exact location) _would_ be most convenient. Not for each member of the list, but as an average. That is, not to deliberately favor any region. Though, I think the coasts idea is good, since the membership seems to be focused on the coasts. I also suggest international 'cons'; specifically australia and uk. Then, some of us u.s.ers might even work up a good excuse to go abroad. As far as conventions not being held in k.c., it's probably because this town sucks. (fun facts for the day: Kansas is 50th in tourism and water quality) Hey! maybe we could have our 'convention' in florda. or Hawaii! yeah, rawk on! -- Ben Ben Timberlake I'm getting off Northwestern University this Merry-Go-Round! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: Re: Sommsfest 96 >yes, come to lovely seattle, eat seafood, go bowling at west seattle bowl >(site of the headbanger's ball bowling match [thanks andrea]), and of >course, 'a sound garden'. get drunk and run around magnusson park. hang >out at the ok hotel. stand in front of the 'singles' building in the same >spot chris cornell did. hell, i'll rent a van and organize the whole >thing. ;-) Yes! great idea! two cities, two festivals, two places to celebrate soundgarden! I nominate Friendsville, Maryland as the East Coast spot. Nothingman can organize! See the slowest t-shirt factory in the world! Show Nothingman where the 'reply' button is! Make a map to the post office for Nothingman! You'll find it all at sommsfest '96 *EAST COAST EXTRAVAGANZA*! Ben Timberlake I'm getting off Northwestern University this Merry-Go-Round! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" ------------------------------ From: David Searle Subject: Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia >>I have another little trivia queston: Name bands that have songs written >>that are the same as the band's name. > >Ummm Porno For Pyros on Porno For Pyros' cd Porno For Pyros. >-Raul > Am I giving away a bit of my past music if I add Living in a Box by Living in a Box off the album Living in a Box? dave ------------------------------ From: crybaby Subject: Re: sg response On 5 Aug 1996, Karen Monoker wrote: > I just wanted to say a few things about everyone who is ragging on Chris > Cornell for either drinking or being drunk etc... Why is it everyone's > business what, where, and when he decides to drink? There is nothing wrong > with drinking and it makes me wonder how old most of the somms people on this > list are? Maybe not of drinking age yet? I don't understand why it is any > different for CC, it isn't like he is doing anything offensive to anyone. Let > the man drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you'll find that people aren't objecting to his drinking so much, its the fact that his activities make him seem like he's perpetuating some dumb old Rock cliche (ie you're not a "Rock star" unless you a) Hate all your fans and insult them regularly b) Regularly over-imbibe some form of intoxicating or mind-altering substances. Personally, I think his activities make him look like an idiot. There's nothing "cool" about being constantly drunk, and if you have to be that way in order to play live, then you can't be much of a frontman or performer, can you? Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting CC or his abilities, but I do beleive that this ever-so jaded Rock cliche really isn't big or clever and CC shouldn't be disgracing himself in front of his fans. It may encourage them to lose their respect for him. > Who cares anyway! I just hope that SG has the best time they can possibly > have being the BEST band right now! Let them live a little! > No-one's saying they can't "live a little" (as you put it), but at the same time, nobody likes to see the frontman of one of their favourite groups act like a complete idiot in the name of "Rock 'n Roll" or some other trite excuse for a cause... .bug ------------------------------ From: Marianne84@aol.com Subject: New thread for ya... I think Susan Silver gets attention because she's good at what she does, and because she's a female in a male dominated industry. I've read about things she's done or participated in that don't even mention Chris. A guy I know who manages local bands went to a management convention in Austin last year. This guy doesn't know much about SG...anyway, he met Susan Silver & was very impressed. He knew she managed Soundgarden & Alice in Chains but did not know that Susan & Chris were married. I thought that was pretty cool. - -Marianne ------------------------------ Subject: But Susan,I was just kidding about doing those things to him!!! From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Aug 06, 1996 08:34:51, 'Marianne84@aol.com' wrote: >I think Susan Silver gets attention because she's good at what she does, and >because she's a female in a male dominated industry. This seems to hit the nail on the head. Why is that people think because Susan is married to Chris that is the only reason she gets any press. Any manager that is managing two very popular bands should get recognition. AIC cannot be an easy band to manage(with Layne's reported problems and all) And remember Kelly Curtis bailed out on her leaving her with AIC and rent on an office to pay!!! She seems to be a strong, smart, level- headed business woman that happen to find love and happiness(As happy as one can be living with Mr. Sunshine Cornell and all those fuzzy ratdogs!!!) along the way. I have a great deal of respect for her and I would imagine she has earned the respect of not only her band members but her peers! And think of the self control the woman has maintained by not going to Texas and exorcising the red-haired devil that is stalking her husband! toni ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: another version? Hey Sommsters- I heard a different version of BUTOW on the radio yesterday. I tried to call the radio station from my car to find out where in the world they got it, but I couldn't get through. Anyone heard it, heard of it, or know where it could be from? Eliza epolly@onenet And I've been caught in a mind riot I'm tied within I'm luck's last match struck In the pouring down wind ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: Sommsfest 96 >I don't think we were actually thinking of a _convention_ convention. I'm pretty sure we were all using the term loosely as an excuse to gather a bunch of us in one place. I know other mailing lists have done it. I personally have never participated in such a gathering, but of the mailing lists I've been on, somms has the strongest sense of community and the people I feel I would be most comfortable meeting in person. My sentiments exactly. That is what I think we all meant - not a real convention, but a list/fan gathering during what should be one of the best tours of all time. Instead of searching for list members at the shows, we would just all be together. Eliza epolly@one.net And I've been caught in a mind riot I'm tied within I'm luck's last match struck In the pouring down wind ------------------------------ From: Die Subject: songs w/ bands name for a title porno for pyros... pennywise... minor threat... ps. hi.. i'm kinda new to the list whats a copy of 'somms' the one everyone keeps asking for ??? (pity for the uninitiated.. like me .. ) : ( buh bye die ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: heartland somms... > caryn wrote: > > realistically we need two locations: east coast and west coast. people in > the middle can choose which side based on airfare considerations. ok, fine...leave us great plainsers in the dust bowl to rot. fine. just fine. :) seriously, i wouldn't expect too many of the central U.S. folks (of which there are fewer than the coast-dwellers, admittedly, so fair is fair) to be able to make it to said coastal somms extravaganza. however, caryn, i HAVE been trying for about three years to arrange a week-long trip to the great northwest...i have relatives in kent and renton and we've been trying to arrange something but it never seems to work out...airfare to seattle has never dropped below $300 roundtrip from omaha, so it's well out of my price range. oh well...i'm going to try the seattle trip thing again this spring, so i'll let you know what happens. i wanna sip some bad-ass starbucks, take in a sonics game, skinny-dip in puget sound and visit the archie mcfee novelty warehouse (ever seen this?!?!?) > enrique wrote: > > and... "Out of the Silent Planet" is the name of King's X's first album. The > "Out of the Silent Planet" song is the first track in their second album > "gretchen goes to nebraska". SEE!?!?!? if gretchen can go to nebraska, so can SOMMS... :) somms convention '96 in lincoln, nebraska. yup yup. i gots a big ol' house with two bathrooms and a basement full of musical instruments to keep sommites housed and entertained. i can cook like a god, too. major continental air service to omaha (1 hr. away) and partial service to lincoln. a bitchin' downtown bar scene, the #1 college football team in the whole wide world, the best steakhouses in the midwest (aside from kansas city, of course) a rockin' phallus-lookin' capitol building with a golden dome and a little seed-sower statue on top, two tasty brewpubs, oodles o' coffee houses, reperatory and community theatre galore, and...best of all...GROTE!!! that's right. me. i'm here. make your reservations today. (ladies, there's limited space available on my bedroom floor, so act now!!!) HA!!! just kiddin'...i'm such a charmer... :) nah...keep it on the coast. more people there than here...chances are that i wouldn't be able to make it anywhere out of the midwest this fall and winter, anyway...too much to do and the editorial class from hell on my fall agenda...yikes... > Gonzo wrote: > We could entertain them,make them laugh,by bringing our Guitars and > Amps,rent a Drum kit. > play Soundgarden songs we all know.Somebody will have to sing,but not me. cool. i'll volunteer to make some geetar noise and yelp a few vocals if necessary. i'll haul out the 100-watt discotech-blue kustom amp to wow the crowd. i can haul out my roomates' drum kit and repertoire of string instruments, as well. i don't like making people laugh, though. i'm straight as an arrow. quit smiling, dammit... :) > caryn wrote: > would be nice for a bunch of us to get together. but a *real* convention, > with hotel rooms and convention rooms and the like, is a SHITLOAD of work, > money, legal problems... and is beyond our reach, at least at the moment. agreed...it would have to be low-key and low-budget for people to be able to afford it. > and right in the middle of the country wouldn't necessarily be the most > convenient for everyone. if that was the case, all conventions would > always be held in kansas city or st. louis or something like that... well, a lot of them are. kansas city has three of the largest and most heavily-booked convention venues in the country...st. louis and omaha have some, but not as many...minneapolis also has a bunch. and although chicago is on the easternmost fringe of the "midwest," it's got plenty of facilities and hosts a whole buttload of major national/international gatherings. just making a shameless plug for the breadbasket of the u.s... i'm done now... :) later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: #somms can anyone tell me what irc server you guys use to get into #somms? i couldn't get in. thx-eliza - ---------- From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 1996 4:03 AM To: Somms@MIT.EDU Subject: #somms Hey, I'm gonna be hangin out in Mr. Somms Neigborhood for a while, come join me, the water is warm and the martini's are cold. The List Thug, Aaron ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: RE: metallifucks At 05:17 PM 8/6/96 +-9-30, you wrote: >HEAR, HEAR!!!!!!!! > >I'm also getting sick and tired of being included in a great generalisation (e.g. Metallifucks). Didn't so many of the listies (including me) say ages ago how music should never be categorised into "mainstream", "alternative", whatever??? Well, the FANS shouldn't be categorised either, dammit! > No kidding. And since I happen to be a "frat boy", I get lumped in with the "Stupid frat-boy Metallifucks". Come on, isn't there enough room on the list for everyone? Dissapointed, but not unhappy, ;) Nate (OTOH, you'll never catch me hanging out on #metallica) ------------------------------ From: Nigel Wilks Subject: Warning - NO SOUNDGARDEN CONTENT - Sorry Seth "I have a certain number of jokes to tell tonight, and this is the first: Who here likes Hootie and the Blowfish? There's no punch-line." -Thom Yorke - Radiohead ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Too Young to Drink? Karen Monoker said: > I just wanted to say a few things about everyone who is ragging on Chris > Cornell for either drinking or being drunk etc... Why is it everyone's > business what, where, and when he decides to drink? There is nothing wrong > with drinking and it makes me wonder how old most of the somms people on this > list are? Maybe not of drinking age yet? I don't understand why it is any > different for CC, it isn't like he is doing anything offensive to anyone. Let > the man drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Boy, I am FAR from being too young to drink! I thought when you mentioned age that you were going to bitch about us old fogeys not knowing how to have fun. I don't think my messages have been coming across the way I mean them. I don't see anything wrong with a person drinking, that isn't the point. The point is, usually at some point in a person's life other things become more important than telling everyone how puking drunk you are going to get (I know, that's an old quote, but there've been recent ones, too). I guess I thought maybe Chris had reached that point. I have friends in their late thirties, forties and even older who are still partying like they did when they were 18. I'm sorry, but that seems not only sad, but somewhat sick. There is so much more to life, as I have learned. And actually I WOULD find it offensive if I paid good money to see Soundgarden perform and then had to listen to some drunken diatribe from Chris. I hate to go back to this, but when I used to see them alot in "91 and '92 Chris said very little, and I don't remember him ever extolling the glories of alcohol on stage, although I'm sure they were drinking their share off stage. He always came off as a smartass, but a very intelligent, sensitive smartass and thats how I've always seen him. I guess reality really does bite. I also agree with the people who mentioned Chris' smoking. As people who really care about Chris and all of SG I believe we have every right to be concerned with things like this. > I just hope, for obvious reasons, > that chris' drinking (did he once refer to himself as an alcoholic?) > doesn't ever adversely affect the band in any way. it would be terrible, > to say the least. so before you start scoffing at people for being > concerned, ask yourself this: is it so wrong to care? Blind Dog, I think that was beautiful. Your post really says it all. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Lightning Boy Subject: Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia At 10:00 AM 8/6/96 -0200, you wrote: >>>I have another little trivia queston: Name bands that have songs written >>>that are the same as the band's name. >> >>Ummm Porno For Pyros on Porno For Pyros' cd Porno For Pyros. >>-Raul >> > >Am I giving away a bit of my past music if I add Living in a Box by Living >in a Box off >the album Living in a Box? I'm only 16, so I haven't heard of them, but doesn't Bad Company have a song called Bad Company? I think the albums called Bad Company too, I'm not sure. The Lyrical Gangsta, Eric .__ .__ .__ __ .__ __________ | | |__| ____ | |___/ |_ ____ |__| ____ ____ \______ \ ____ ___.__. | | | |/ ___\| | \ __\/ \| |/ \ / ___\ | | _// _ < | | | |_| / /_/ > | \ | | | \ | | \/ /_/ > | | ( <_> )___ | |____/__\___ /|___| /__| |___| /__|___| /\___ / |______ /\____// ____| /_____/ \/ \/ \//_____/ \/ \/ +---------------------------------------------+ | aka Eric Bonus | | lightning@ag.net | | Keeper of the "Complete AIC Lyrics Songbook"| | http://www.ag.net/~lightning/aic/lyrics/ | +---------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: Andrea Pinto > Seattle! > > yes, come to lovely seattle, eat seafood, go bowling at west seattle bowl > (site of the headbanger's ball bowling match [thanks andrea]), and of > course, 'a sound garden'. get drunk and run around magnusson park. hang > out at the ok hotel. stand in front of the 'singles' building in the same > spot chris cornell did. hell, i'll rent a van and organize the whole > thing. ;-) > --caryn Sounds good to me. We could at least do our own northwest contigent version of a convention. We wouldn't get SG, but we could sit in front of starbucks in the market and wait for spoonmnan to perform. ; ) By the way, the pool table at the ok hotel (location of pretty noose video where kim was shooting pool) has been removed. It looks like a shell of it's former self. Andrea Pinto ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: songs ' black sabbath' by black sabbath.... paper cuts could probably count = for nirvana, if only fo lyrical stuff... would 'ziggy stardust' count? = the band was called ziggy stardust and the spiders from mars.. wait a = sec.. what do these threads have to do w/ Sg??? we're being tricked... = oh no...=20 infinite =09 ps. thanks Flutter girl! I like the picture, even though it's far back, i = can still tell who's who... i wasn't aware they had an extra guitarist = for the tour.... hmmm ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: heartland somms... On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, grote wrote: > however, caryn, i HAVE been trying for about three years to arrange a > week-long trip to the great northwest...i have relatives in kent and > renton and we've been trying to arrange something but it never seems > to work out...airfare to seattle has never dropped below $300 > roundtrip from omaha, so it's well out of my price range. oh hey there... friends from missouri are flying out for pearl jam and scored $190 round trip. ;-P get a good travel agent! hell, i'll volunteer mine! i sent all the pj people to her last time... "um, hello, i'm a friend of caryn rose's, i need a cheap flight to new orleans... yep, going to see pearl jam too..." > well...i'm going to try the seattle trip thing again this spring, so > i'll let you know what happens. i wanna sip some bad-ass starbucks, > take in a sonics game, skinny-dip in puget sound and > visit the archie mcfee novelty warehouse (ever seen this?!?!?) starbucks sucks, sonics seats are over priced, if you jump in puget sound fully clothed you'd probably get hypothermia, and i used to work three blocks from archie's. ;-P however, i can show you all excellent coffee, interesting diversions and plenty of water and good food. > galore, and...best of all...GROTE!!! that's right. me. i'm here. make your > reservations today. (ladies, there's limited space available on my > bedroom floor, so act now!!!) HA!!! just kiddin'...i'm such a > charmer... :) if you were a charmer, grote babe, you wouldn't be offering space on yer *floor*. ;-P just one note, the yearly LISG (dena's coming, so we can't limit it to just chris) convention will be at some point this fall (right shroom??) in seattle. make your reservations now! - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: correction.... seth just kindly reminded me that postage & shipping on the shirts in the US was $3.30, not $3.80. i'm assuming he planned to mail them in padded mailers regular rate, and has switched to free priority mail envelopes, priority rate, just to get them here asap. it's still a profit. and until nothingman starts being accountable, or at least responsible, or at least having the guts to contact SOMEONE *already on this list* with a group message, via email, snail mail, semaphore, telephone, smoke signals... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: heartland somms/Cheap Tickets For our SOMMS Convention '96, if anyone is having trouble finding affordable airfares, try Cheap Tickets. I've used this ticket agency successfully on four occasions (even during holiday seasons). They're based out of Hawaii and have agents/offices all over the US (or, of course, they'll mail your tickets). They deal with major airlines, but they are only a database - they don't have contracts or special preferences with the airlines. All the service basically is is a mainframe that searches for the lowest available fare. It makes it easier than calling the airlines yourself or flipping through the Sunday paper, reading the fine print of the advertisements. For Grote, I just called for a Omaha to Seattle price quote. They came up with $268 max. ($228 base cost plus between $20-$40 in taxes). 1(800)377-1000 -Vikki :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) at nylanr01 i HAVE been trying to arrange a trip to the northwest...airfare to seattle has never dropped below $300 roundtrip from omaha, so it's out of my price range. ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: a lolla review Took this from the newsgroup - NOT my opinions!! _________________ REVIEW: The Gorge Lollapalooza...Monster Truck Show Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 16:08:23 GMT From: muttley@serv.net I was very excited about this Lollapalooza and have gone to the past five also. I didn't buy into this crap about this being a "non-alternative" Lollapalooza....until I got to the show. This was basically a hick festival....I felt like I was at a Monster Truck Show. I even saw a confederate flag flying during Soundgarden's set. Lollapalooza has definitely changed...and not for the better. Basically imagine a Aerosmith concert...circa 1977...and that was basically Lollapalooza 1996. Anyway..as for the bands. Soundgarden: This was my 19th Soundgarden concert...most of those were back in the 1980's in the Seattle clubs. My this band has changed a lot. They have definitly got into the rock star posing thing and even staged a very rehearsed knocking over of the amplifiers. I'm about as big of a fan as you can get...but this was definitely a NEW Soundgarden....very rock starish. The metalheads ate it up and went nuts. Obviously the same fans that were here for Metallica were also here for Soundgarden. Cornell's solo version of Black Hole Sun was the highlite. I noticed that Chris' voice is shot...he sounded worn out and gravely. I'd kill for the old club days when he was fresh out of high school and had a voice that was incredible. Think I need to find a new favorate band. Metallica: Good light show, lots of fireworks. It was standard Metallica...they have done it a million times and do the metal thing better than just about anyone. I got tired of the hicks halfway thru the show and we headed for the exits. AND HERE IS THE ULTIMATE "SPINAL TAP" SIDEBAR TO THIS YEARS LOLLAPALOOZA. After the show...at the festival's campground...fans rioted after the fire department tried to put out their bonfire at 3am. THEY FOUGHT FOR THEIR BONFIRE...A 150 OF THEM. Obviously Lollapalooza has changed....don't go if you are into the "alternative(whatever that is)thing". This is a metal festival...attracting a metal following. If you like the feel of a homophobic, sexist, racist crowd...by all means go...but if you are turned off by that kind of thing...wait for Soundgarden to do their own tour. I'm not saying everyone at this show was a hick, but their were a lot their...and it was unpleasant as hell! jim muttley@serv.net ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: a lolla review On Tue, 6 Aug 1996, Eliza J Polly wrote: > Took this from the newsgroup - NOT my opinions!! > _________________ 1) someone ELSE posted this here yesterday. seth, forgive me please, but: TO ALL NEWBIES: DO ***NOT*** POST ANYTHING FROM ALT.MUSIC.SOUNDGARDEN ON THIS LIST!!!!!!! the newsgroup SUCKS! that's why we have this GREAT list! don't pollute it with that garbage. and if you DON'T agree with someone... why the FUCK would you forward their review??? seth, perhaps it's time to post the list guidelines again??? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: KJack35917@aol.com Subject: Sommsfest 96 Hi all, I'm new to the List, but I've really enjoyed reading it for the past week or so, and I must say that Seth's web page is MOST impressive!! You all will have to tell me about yourselves. I'm an attorney in Kentucky. I've enjoyed Soundgarden's music for many years; I remember when they opened for Guns n Roses and they really "outshined" GNR. I think a SG covention can be done. People on the Van Halen mailing list had a convention this year in Chicago and apparently had a great time (there was even a hint that Eddie may've shown up if he hadn't been somewhere on business, so who's to say that a bandmember might not take pity on us and grace us with his presence?). It would involve some planning, but you get a group rate at a hotel and some meeting rooms, etc., etc. It sure would be fun to meet you all. Karen ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: amplification: forwarding stuff someone suggested that i perhaps need to expand on my previous mail... so here goes: lots of people take lots and lots of time to type out full, lengthy magazine articles and radio interviews and mtv interviews -- and that is great. no matter if it's a bad review or stupid interview, someone took a lot of time and trouble to type something out to add to our collective knowledge and share and add to the web page. i don't see that in the same category as forwarding "reviews" (if you could call it that) from Usenet. Usenet has, with very few exceptions, disintigrated into a shell of its former self and is basically useless. alt.music.soundgarden is the best example of this. it's filled with people looking for a fight. i have a friend who regularly goes there to try to start some intelligent conversation about the band, and he immediately gets flooded with mail from people on this list inviting him to join us. ;-) (it's really sweet. ;-) ). it's great that we've had so many new people join us recently, and that you want to contribute something to the list, but might i suggest that you take some time andd go through the web page to see the kinds of things that are really appreciated? whatever. just my $.02, not like anyone has to listen to me anyway... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: a lolla review Wow, sorry all - didn't know that there was such a big bad rule about putting newgroup stuff on here - how could I have known that?!?! Anyway, my only reason for posting it was to point out that there are a bunch of people out there with a wide variety of opinions that vary from ours...that was all. I thought his comments about the change in SG over the years was interesting.....And I spend tons of time on the web page and competely understand what is in appreciated - the newsgroup posting was merely a way to show the contrast...Anyway, sorry for pissing everyone off, I won't do it again! TO ALL NEWBIES: DO ***NOT*** POST ANYTHING FROM ALT.MUSIC.SOUNDGARDEN ON THIS LIST!!!!!!! the newsgroup SUCKS! that's why we have this GREAT list! don't pollute it with that garbage. and if you DON'T agree with someone... why the FUCK would you forward their review??? seth, perhaps it's time to post the list guidelines again??? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: 07/25/96 Hey List! First, I'd like to apologize for reiterating the comments by that idiot cyberjockey on the Lolla Netcast. Forces within the SGWA are aligning to find out the story behind his comments. Was he just stupid, or was he using illegal substances to advance his idiocy. Maybe this could be a job for the listthug? Want to hunt him down and..... :-) Ah, the reason for this post.... The first decent sounding SG Lolla boot has surfaced. 07/25/96 - Ferris, Texas is circulating in the DAT trading circles. With a little TLC, the sound quality could surpass the Oslo, Norway boot. Actually, due to the recent NYC bootleg busts, this show might be the next SG show to be put onto CD. Watch for KTS to release a SG Lolla boot soon with decent packaging but the pricing will be ridiculous!!!! Note: Never, ever, Never, ever pay more than $25 for a single boot CD. You're wasting your money! 75% of the time the sound quality is shitty and the packaging is really bad. If you really want to start collecting live shows...be patient, get a couple boots and join some tape/DAT/video trading circles. As for the show itself; I've heard them play with more enthusiasm. The crowd only responds (initially) to "Pretty Noose". Chris's voice is ragged on the first 4 songs. Though, WftS is pretty good. He really shines on BHS (solo). And JCP is short (as a show closer) for some reason. All in all, Not a bad show. I wonder why they haven't introduced more than 3 songs off the new album into their live sets? Were they trying (in/directly) to compete with metallica by playing "harder" material? They've made a conscience decision to become more acoustic/atmospheric with this record and I for one can't wait to hear the new material live. Anyone hear anything on a possible Screaming Trees tour this fall? And when is the release date for the new Satchel? Steve - - "I pray to God that bad people don't come to this town again...bad things might happen" Heavy Rotation: "Blue (acoustic)" - Smashing Pumpkins, "Suffering" - Satchel, "All I Know" - Screaming Trees, _Greatest Hits_ - Devo, "Sidewalking (extended remix)" - The Jesus and Mary Chain ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: metallifucks cynsir@village.ios.com wrote: >>> You know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN when you hang out in = #SOMMS=20 > and act as a hostess/greeter and turn people on. BTW, I made sure she = > wasn't a metallifuck. (Not that I dislike the band. I don't, just=20 > many of their fans. They're not cool like us.) To which Alex replied: >>This statement relies on the false theory that you cannot be both a=20 Soundgarden and a Metallica fan. I love both Metallica and = Soundgarden.... >> Although i would agree that there are a lot of narrow=20 minded stupid Metallica fans (don't forget Metallica has a lot of fans = to=20 choose from) but there are also a lot of narrow minded stupid = Soundgarden=20 fans(none of which are on this list of course :) >>Just because there seems to be a lot of idiot Metallica fans at Lolla concerts stop assuming we are all the same.=20 HEAR, HEAR!!!!!!!! I'm also getting sick and tired of being included in a great = generalisation (e.g. Metallifucks). Didn't so many of the listies = (including me) say ages ago how music should never be categorised into = "mainstream", "alternative", whatever??? Well, the FANS shouldn't be = categorised either, dammit! Grrrrrrrrrrr................ Carolyn the Metallica Fan ------------------------------ From: "Greg Dunbar" Subject: Chris Farley Song/Album Discussion White Zombie have an album called 'Soul Crusher', and on La Sexorcisto there is a song called 'Soul Crusher'. So there you are. Can't wait for the Burden Single to come out. If Karaoke is on that magazine then it should be on the single : ) - ------------------------------------------------------------- Loosely or tightly Everything Fits Even The Wrist On Your Arm Applebite - Soundgarden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GD - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: =P >> Pageant for "Hootchie of the Year". >Does this mean we must have a tattoo in order to qualify???? And >can we please exempt Shroon (give her the title of Grand Hootchie >life time position) so the rest of us can have a fighting chance!!!!! Ooooh... neato!! My parents are gonna be SO proud of me!! Hey, maybe they can have shirts made about it!! Heheheh... >We can have daily drawings for prizes like: >The opportunity to rip Chris's shirt off and then keep the torn prize. >Ten seconds with the band member of your choice.. Heheheh... I'm liking this SOMMSfest idea more and more and more and more and more. Ummmm... but can we make that at LEAST 10 minutes, instead of 10 seconds? Damn... it'd take you people at least 10 mins to drag me away from Chris, anyway. >The worst part was definitely the butt-rock antics of Jason Everman. >When he was on top of CC during I Awake and when he smashed >his bass at the end of the show Ummm... I'm going to have to disagree with you, Gregg. I think that the whole Jason/CC thing worked MIGHTY well in Louder Than Live. It's one of my personal favorite parts of the video. Just thought I'd share that, as though you people weren't already aware. "You know you're obsessed with SG when:" >you climb over barbed wire fences and sneak past security in hopes >of meeting Soundgarden and risk getting arrested. C'mon Erin!! You only live once, babe!! Gotta go for it ALL!! Never ever never let opportunity pass you by!! Think of all the great stuff you might miss out on if you don't let yourself be outrageous once in a while (or all the time, in my case). >It is the connection of celebrities that fascinates society, and the fact >that there is an endless curiousity about Susan because of the >"seemingly unattainable" Mr. Cornell. SEEMINGLY unattainable? Umkay... reality check time. The man might as well be locked in an underground cave in Siberia for as attainable as he might be. Wait... did that make any sense? Well, I think you understand what I meant. There is no seemingly about it. It'll be a cold day in hell before any of us gets to see the man naked... UNLESS we manage to catch him on film, by dangling from a tree outside his bedroom window with a really good camera and zoom lens. Just a thought. Heheheh... >And think of the self control the woman has maintained by not >going to Texas and exorcising the red-haired devil that is stalking her >husband! Yeah... gotta admire Susan for that one, if nothing else!! But just think she won't have to come all the way to Texas to find me... 'cuz I'm going to Seattle in October!! Life is convenient like that sometimes. >just one note, the yearly LISG (dena's coming, so we can't limit it to >just chris) convention will be at some point this fall (right shroom??) in >seattle. make your reservations now! Right you are, Caryn!! Lech's in SG will be meeting at the end of October in Seattle, to get acquainted with each other, and hopefully drive by Chris' house a few thousand times. ;-) Oh yeah... and that drummer guy's place, too. Heheheh... One last thing... I STILL haven't gotten my shirts in!! NOTHINGMAN... I KNOW WHERE YOU LIVE, AND IF YOU DON'T SEND ME MY SHIRTS... I'M GONNA GET THE LIST THUG, AND WE'RE GONNA PAY YOU A VISIT. Aaron will break your kneecaps and take away your birthdays without breaking a sweat, buddy... so get your butt in gear and send me my stuff already!!! Shroom Red Haired Devil-Hootchie, Proud member of the Kim Thayil Mercenary Squad, and Seattle-bound-obsessed-SOMMS-psycho (See you in October, Chris and Matt!!!) "Hey Shroom... what's the duct tape for? What do you mean you're kidnapping me? You're going to take me to an undisclosed location, and perform devious acts upon my sexy body?!?!? Ummmm........... ok!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Kim, Chris, Flotsam, Jetsam, Newstad, Cooke . . . First, a amusing thought, then some meat & potatoes . . . With all the hootchie talk around here, I asked my girlfriend last night who she thought was the "best-looking member of soundgarden" was. She replied, "Kim Thayil". I wondered why a South Dakota farm girl would say that . . . but very matter of factly said, "The eyes and the Beard . . .". Maybe I should start Hoochies for Kim or something. BTW, she said, "Chris is over-rated" Shroom. I asked my soon-to-be roommate (a level headed Metallica fan) about the Chris Cornell penned Flotsam and Jetsam song. He said he has it on tape but has to move his tapes up yet. I'll make a wav of it for the page. An interesting side note to it, however, is that Jason Newstad was playing for Flopsom and Yetsin at the time, so maybe that is how the bands know each other (Metallica) . . . "We're not fishing buddies" as Kim would say. Yikes, Stripes, Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Somewhere on a steam vent sleeps a man without a home. Tribute to Carl Sagan tonight on PBS. Alister Cooke is begging tonight on PBS. Maybe he needs my money more than that man without a home. He wants to make a documentary on the footwear of Ancient Rome." ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Re: MATT'S BASS DRUM HEADS >Some of you might think this is just a bunch of crap but being a drummer I >pay attention to things like this. I know Matt has used the weird >pink-spraypainted symbol bass drum head playing with Hater and on the >alternate Pretty Noose video; the Ayotte logo head he uses now, but there's >one head that I've seen him use once that I want to know about. On SG's SnL >performance, look closely at Matt's bass drum head. It says something! WHAT >THE HELL DOES IT SAY??? Somebody please help me out!!! I believe it says "Go Sonics". Vasant ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED - Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "When new damage comes, it's a new word for plague, a new world order, a new word for hate" - New Damage - Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Re: sg response >I just wanted to say a few things about everyone who is ragging on Chris >Cornell for either drinking or being drunk etc... Why is it everyone's >business what, where, and when he decides to drink? There is nothing wrong >with drinking and it makes me wonder how old most of the somms people on this >list are? Maybe not of drinking age yet? I don't understand why it is any >different for CC, it isn't like he is doing anything offensive to anyone. Let >the man drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's not that we're all teetotallers. It's because we care. We don't want him to pull a John Bonham, if you know what I mean. Vasant ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED - Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "When new damage comes, it's a new word for plague, a new world order, a new word for hate" - New Damage - Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: urbano Subject: Re: 07/25/96 At 05:09 PM 6/08/96 -0400, you wrote: >And JCP is short (as a show closer) for some reason. Perhaps because JCP is one of the most vocally-demanding songs? -urbano ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: Burden re-re-revisited... only kidding!! > I know Matt has used the weird >pink-spraypainted symbol bass drum head playing with Hater and on the >alternate Pretty Noose video; the Ayotte logo head he uses now, but there's >one head that I've seen him use once that I want to know about. On SG's SnL >performance, look closely at Matt's bass drum head. It says something! WHAT >THE HELL DOES IT SAY??? Somebody please help me out!!! OH ....OH...OH.....( single handliy doing my best /worst horshack impersonation ) CD's SUCK!!!!!... thats what it said... OH WAIT!! no it said GO SONICS... no no no.. it said.. now I remember... HEATHER MIFFLIN SOMMS IS GONNA GET YOU!!!!..... (LAUGHS AND LAUGHS ). >>And I remember Dena's first post about >>that guy who killed his girlfriend and buried her in the sand and wow, >>watching that video really makes you wonder... >>Dena, can you please recap that post? I must've missed it. Was there = >>in actual fact a guy who killed his girlfriend?? =20 Yes there was a actual guy who killed.. not his girlfriend, but his girlfirends bestfriend... then buried her in the desert....if anyone is interested email me and I will send you the info... I don't wanna make the list read my explanation of BURDEN for a 3rd time.... The Blessed SOMMS Goddess.. Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: #somms Okay, Mr. List Thug himself is in #somms right now. So don't be bashful, c'mon in. It's about 10 p.m. here on the West Coast, and I'll be here for a little while. I turned up the heat yesterday in the #somms hot tub, so I get all wrinkly faster, and the martini's go to your head a little quicker, so I can't stay in as long. The list thug, Aaron ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Like promised...Irvine-Lolla Hi List! OK, I am not going to go into any great details about the other bands that played Irvine Sat Aug 3rd.... Well, having such a great day for Lolla, (it couldn't have been a better ) Not too hot... skys blue and a slight breeze. My husband and I sporting our SG shirts- No Fork shirts.. :( just ones that we bought priviously from other shows etc...We had to show our support of the best fucking band there!!!! We arrived in our seats about 3:20pm, after sometime of walking around and just checking out the haps. Psychotica where playing....:( is all I will say to that. Screaming tree's came on next, and we made our way up to the lawn area just to kick back awhile with some friends that we saw as we were coming in the main gate. The band was great!!! The sound was good, I thought, although when SG took the stage, I heard otherwise. After the Screeming Trees, we made our way back down the hill and over to the Beer Garden..for some brewskees-:) Then walked around abit more and then went back to the main gate to meet Terry and Tim=fellow sommsters! We took care of all the intros and what not...and just walked and talked and waited at the second stage for the Melvins. If there was any band besides SG that I did not want to miss, it was this band. They rocked as usual and I had no disappointments. I was somewhere in the middle of the crowd, and the thought of Kim or Ben being around there somewhere enjoying the Melvins as well, crossed my mind. But I did not venture around to find out. As I read in yesterdays digest, someone did see Ben, next to the stage. I wasn't at all suprised...Ramones played the same time as Melvins and it was a hard choice....but I had already seen the Ramones play twice in past years, the most recent being when they opened for Pearl Jam. It was over to the KLOS booth to put in our names to " Win a Autographed SG guitar" I wrote "Winner" next to my name on my entry card!!!! I'm still waiting for them to call me!!....:) yeah right! Well, then it was off to find food! We were all starving and decided to chow down before Devo came on....it was a hard choice, food or seeing Sponge play...well, needless to say.. our appetites won out! My husband and I were just getting our food....and up walks Rikki Rachtman. I said "Hey Rikki, whats up? "You look like we do....HUNGRY!" and he smiles and says "You know it!...:)" I could not help but wish...> "why could'nt he have been Chris or Matt...?" Now it was off to get back to our great seats for Devo and then SG! It was just about Dusk as we sat down and listened and (got into) Devo. It was great seeing them again. Playing all their great songs... I really enjoyed them emmensely. I had noticed right away that Kim and Matt and Ben where side stage, smiling and watching Devo play. No Chris Cornell or Susan Silver. The three looked in great spirits and I started to get anxious... I couldn't wait until SG played. Terry had given me her disposable camera that she managed to sneak past security....So I was hoping that the pictures would turn out due to the fading daylight....after SG did take the stage, I was able to snap a few pictures...but not without security shinning a flashlight in my face every time the flash went off. I will save all the song by song reviews....and just say that the song line-up was the same as the Gorge. Chris' voice was amazing!!!!!! I felt like I was close to being deafend every time Chris hit a high range note..No Kidding...my ears were cracking....and the volume was high and the bass was turned way up!. Kim was in a pretty good mood it seems, and Matt...was drumming away... Ben was doing the Goose Walk and seemed to be enjoying himself (no spitting)...Chris wore his typical black button up shirt, black jeans, no jewelry ....and become shirtless right after his solo version of BHS. I thought of shroom at that moment, funny enough :) The mosh pit was not really moshing and Chris did have some banter with the crowd....dedicating "My Wave" to the Ramones. I was jumping around and dancing....and just having one hell of a time... to the dismay of a Metallica fan that was seated next to me. She did not look too amused by all my frenzy, and my occasional bummping into her legs...but to tell you the truth....I did not give a shit..and she knew it. If she were to have said anything, I would have told her.." Well, when Metallica comes on...go to it girl!!" No sweat off of my back as I planned to be long gone into the parking lot!!! Hehehehehehe I was not waisting my time on them, nor was I getting stuck in the parking lot for hours! Well, during Jesus Christ Pose, I started thinking about how short the show seemed...only 1 hour :( but that is show business....So sad as it may be...it was time to go home, but not without a big smile on my face and a fullfilled heart. Oh and not without a stop at one of the shirt booths, to buy myself a SG t-shirt! What no posters! :)~ In closing....as we paid for our shirts, Buzz Osborne was standing to the side of me...waiting for his girlfriend. It was cool to see him, and I would have loved to have spoken to him, tell him that their set kicked ass! but girlfriends looks kill!!! Yikes! (am I dead???) Well there you have it folks....I tried not to put anyone to sleep!! Christy (SGardnGrl) ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: I've been elected to rock your asses 'til midnight WOW and DOUBLE WOW!! :-) I have just seen an EXCELLENT performance by Seattle's very own POTUSA. = They were brilliant. I love their quirky sound on CD, but they are = KILLERS live. Much more energetic. They'd be a perfect opener for = Soundgarden............ They opened with the above phrase - my favourite song from their debut = album that isn't even their own, "Kick Out The Jams". But that song's = lyrics were the theme for the rest of the evening. Jackhammer, you'll = love 'em when you see them on Saturday!! I thought of the Sommsers and Kim Thayil in particular when they played = "Naked & Famous" - they did it very well despite the absence of Kim's = noodling. And to hear a fresh version of "Video Killed The Radio Star" = was pretty cool - hadn't heard that song in a long while! Okay, I know there's bugger all to do with Soundgarden in here (except = mention of Kim, and at least these guys are from Seattle), but I just = had to share with you all my excitement. And to recommend to you POTUSA = if you ever get the chance to see them. Wonderful! The only downer was the length of time they were on the stage - an hour. = Not good. :-( Oh, and for the Aussies out there - Custard were the support band and = they were fantastic, too. I'm especially happy as I got a free CD of = theirs (full 12-song one of radio demos recorded in 91-92 - very good = stuff) along with the t-shirt I bought. Cheers and Beers to you all, Carolyn the Marvellous Fancier I'm on a cloud and I won't come down......Tumbleweed ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia Ray wrote: >>Or how about bands that have songs written by other bands using their = names; i.e: Ash's latest single 'Goldfinger' & the band Goldfinger. um... = Billy Ocean's 'Loverboy' & the band Loverboy. I believe Metallica has a song = named 'The Cure' & the Cure. Alice in Chains 'Frogs' & the Frogs... oh jeez, = I should go study for finals (c: Australian band Powderfinger are sort of like that - although they named = their band after Neil Young's song of the same name............ {Vikki - got your message and will be snail-mailing you a teensy bit of = info on Powderfinger soon} Carolyn the Maudlin Fish If all the people that you ever knew pooled all their money and gave it = to you, do you think you would have enough to save your = skin?.........Powderfinger ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 207] ****************************************