From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 6 Aug 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 06 Aug 1996 02:07:49 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 6 Aug 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: RE:puking out the nose drunk RE:puking out the nose drunk ? MATT'S BASS DRUM HEADS I've kept the movie rolling... #SOMMS/you know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN Re: #SOMMS/you know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN cowland's not cooperating, so... Openers for SG sg on Casey's top 40 sg response Re: Sommsfest 96 #metallica takeover attempt SHOW ME YOUR TITS!!! Re: rant & rave... Re: #SOMMS/you know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN hmmm, sommsfest '96 belated thoughts... Re: People have no taste Re: sg response Re: Sommsfest 96 Re: Sommsfest 96 Johnny Cash sings Rusty Cage Re: #metallica takeover attempt Re: Sommsfest 96 The convention / The Webchat Re: new thread for ya's quasi non-soundgarden related somms convention thing new thread for ya's RE: new thread for ya's Shirts Oopsy Re: sg response FW: sg response FW: Sommsfest 96 Re:Sommsfest'96 #SOMMS Re: new thread for ya's Re: Please! RE: Sommsfest'96 RE: Sommsfest 96 new member RE: Sommsfest 96 lalalal San Jose, CA, Lollapalooza. Friday, Aug 2. Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia Re: SG shirt Soundgarden Reflex Flexi Disc for auction. Stop the presses - incoming news and drown in alcohol... Re: Soundgarden Reflex Flexi Disc for auction. Lollapalooza at Irvine Meadows... Re: Openers for SG WA SOUNDGARDEN SHOW...BIG DISSAPOINTMENT RE: Openers for SG SG shirt irc on aol Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia RE: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia Re: Re:Sommsfest'96 RE: Shirts and uh... more shirts Burden single RE: Another (not as good) Gorge Review Re: Sommsfest 96 chris's voice problems a thousand years that aren't mine... Shirts and uh... more shirts Er... any charitable people out there? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: cgoodman@maine.com (Carole Goodman) Subject: RE:puking out the nose drunk I was the one who brought up the qoute. I admit I should have said when it was although I did name the cd I heard it on. I meant no disrespect. Sorry if you misinterpted what I said. I also said not to worry about it. that's all. Ivy 1.0a15 ------------------------------ From: cgoodman@maine.com (Carole Goodman) Subject: RE:puking out the nose drunk Forgot to add I was never criticizing him the first place. I was just pointing it out. Don't go blowing things out of proportion now. Ivy 1.0a15 ------------------------------ From: cgoodman@maine.com (Carole Goodman) Subject: ? Why is it when I say the smallest stupid thing everyone goes off on it for pages? BTW it's IVY not carole. ys, is that ------------------------------ From: FrkShow911@aol.com Subject: MATT'S BASS DRUM HEADS Some of you might think this is just a bunch of crap but being a drummer I pay attention to things like this. I know Matt has used the weird pink-spraypainted symbol bass drum head playing with Hater and on the alternate Pretty Noose video; the Ayotte logo head he uses now, but there's one head that I've seen him use once that I want to know about. On SG's SnL performance, look closely at Matt's bass drum head. It says something! WHAT THE HELL DOES IT SAY??? Somebody please help me out!!! ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I've kept the movie rolling... On Thu, 1 Aug 1996 oponfam@cnsnet.com wrote: > until it was obvious that Nothingman had really screwed up that Seth > stopped supporting him. I think Seth has every right to feel angry and > to express that anger. In fact, we all have the right to feel angry with all the talk of old shirts, new shirts and what we might do going on, it led me to think again about the somms shirt fiasco last night; and even though the whole process has turned into a debacle of the highest order, I feel that there is probably some silver lining to this black cloud over the list. I know this probably won't placate many listers who are going to receive a shirt which is most assuredly *not* what we ordered, but here goes. from all reports, the shirt does not conform exactly to what we voted for. but (I know this may sound like a very small consolation) I think that the shirt, all imperfections aside, will still be something for all somms-listers to cherish. it is, of course, the first soundgarden-list shirt to produced. while it may be imperfect - I haven't got mine yet, so I don't know how bad the damage is - the shirt is still symbolic of the somms list and the diverse community which we have built around our admiration of soundgarden's music. so even while you wear it (hopefully), just remember what it represents, and that in ten or twenty years time you can tell new listers that you once owned the infamous somms-shirt. I know that this probably...no, definitely deserves more than a quick paragraph at the bottom of an unrelated post, but in an effort not to clog inboxes I will tack it here. seth, the new 'song of the month' section has roundly kicked my ass this morning. I knew that it would look good, but you have certainly outdone yourself this time 'round. all the images are superb (particularly the use of the video captures down the side) and the text is a great tribute to timeless soundgarden song (I'd just like to add that I own the promo, not on cd, but on lovely vinyl). congratulations on a fine piece of work. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: cynsir@village.ios.com Subject: #SOMMS/you know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN I was in #SOMMS for about 4 hours but saw none of yous guys. I did, however, meet "greeneyze" who heard about it from a friend. She's a true dudette & is hooking up to our list. Yea, new blood. You know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN when you hang out in #SOMMS and act as a hostess/greeter and turn people on. BTW, I made sure she wasn't a metallifuck. (Not that I dislike the band. I don't, just many of their fans. They're not cool like us.) SOUNDGARDEN has the best fans, don't they? Love, Cyn xoxo PS: Shroom, I know you're trapped in AOLHell, but is it possible for you to get to #Somms so I can tell you stories about the Howard Stern Movie? ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: #SOMMS/you know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN On Mon, 5 Aug 1996 cynsir@village.ios.com wrote: > I was in #SOMMS for about 4 hours but saw none of yous guys. I did, > however, meet "greeneyze" who heard about it from a friend. She's a > true dudette & is hooking up to our list. Yea, new blood. > > You know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN when you hang out in #SOMMS > and act as a hostess/greeter and turn people on. BTW, I made sure she > wasn't a metallifuck. (Not that I dislike the band. I don't, just > many of their fans. They're not cool like us.) > This statement relies on the false theory that you cannot be both a Soundgarden and a Metallica fan. I love both Metallica and Soundgarden. Infact they are my two favourite bands. Infact i know a lot of people who like both. Although i would agree that there are a lot of narrow minded stupid Metallica fans (don't forget Metallica has a lot of fans to choose from) but there are also a lot of narrow minded stupid Soundgarden fans(none of which are on this list of course :) Just because there seems to be a lot of idiot Metallica fans at Lolla concerts stop assuming we are all the same. If i started saying how PEarl Jam or Alice in Chains or Tool sucks constantly (i would never say that because i love those bands) i bet heaps of people would start flaming me and telling me to shut up. > SOUNDGARDEN has the best fans, don't they? > > Love, Cyn xoxo > > PS: Shroom, I know you're trapped in AOLHell, but is it possible for > you to get to #Somms so I can tell you stories about the Howard Stern > Movie? > "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ From: Stolen.Prayers@helix.xiii.com Subject: cowland's not cooperating, so... i need to send this message from helix.. bear with me :) Anyway I just saw the basketball diaries.. its on HBO this month.. check it out.. but if youre a sap like i am make sure youre stocked up on kleenex.. god, i bawled through this whole movie. i felt like an asshole.. good thing it's two o clock in the morning and no one witnessed it :) its not really about basketball at all, it's about this kid who just basically turns into a homeless druggie and me, being the sheltered lil middle class bitch i am that's never even gotten high or drunk or robbed or anything (shut up), it depressed the hell out of me. but on to soundgarden. they dont even give them the honor of being the only band to play during the credits (grrr) first this song by flea (great bass player, but i honestly do not like this song) plays during the credits, then it segues into blind dogs, which is pretty cool.. and i have the closed captioning turned on my tv, so i got to listen to sg on the tube and look at the lyrics :) there was something that caught my attention: instead of saying "you could be right next door", the closed caption decoder says "evil could be right next door." i dunno, sometimes the closed caption thinges are wrong, but its something to think about.. oh well :) i'll go away now.... btw, where'd shroom disappear to? dont tell me she took off for seattle to comfort chris in his time of need (and do a lil more than comforting t e e h e e .) it wouldnt surprise me, after meeting her :) well, shroom if yer out there, write me back damnit :) Please that is :) sorry, im in a weird mood.... chow unkind@cowland.com ------------------------------ From: JASNL@aol.com Subject: Openers for SG Re: the fall tour openers idea: Yes, that would be a great idea. (I'm in two bands myself, so I'm VERY in favor of it!!) MATT, ARE YOU OUT THERE? Do you have any say in this?? Give us little people a chance!! If locals can't open, I'd still hold some hope that Alice in Chains might tour with Soundgarden. It could happen. I can dream, can't I? Or Pearl Jam... Sally ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: sg on Casey's top 40 I happened to catch about a minute of Casey's top forty while on break tonight. He mentioned that the Beach Boys had recently recorded a song on the label that launched soundgarden and nirvana. I suppose that means sub-pop. Nirvana was never on sst was it? Anyway, that's some pretty useless information I can share. I'm just pissed that I'm stuck in AOHELL because sunflower.org has completely dropped the ball on getting me hooked up. Only sent that check in *two FUCKING months ago*! So, I can't wait to get back to school and a nice ethernet port. Then I can _listen_ to things like Matt Cameron online. Congrats Seth, Caryn, Jerm, and everyone else who was mentioned/answered/sacrificed on the ATN webcast. -- Ben Ben Timberlake I'm getting off Northwestern University this Merry-Go-Round! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" ------------------------------ From: kjm@mtool.com (Karen Monoker) Subject: sg response I just wanted to say a few things about everyone who is ragging on Chris Cornell for either drinking or being drunk etc... Why is it everyone's business what, where, and when he decides to drink? There is nothing wrong with drinking and it makes me wonder how old most of the somms people on this list are? Maybe not of drinking age yet? I don't understand why it is any different for CC, it isn't like he is doing anything offensive to anyone. Let the man drink!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also I have not been to Lolla, but my main reason for not going was because I cannot stand the huge crowds and having to deal with unruly fans (like what most of you said about the metallica fans). I was very surprised that SG decided to play Lolla, just because they aren't very into the whole mainstream music scene, and certainly don't seem to enjoy all the BS that goes along with it. So it does not surprise me at all that at this point all the members of SG have pretty much had it with the whole Lolla scene and seem ready for it to end, ex. Ben yelling at fans, CC being drunk (maybe?), etc... Who cares anyway! I just hope that SG has the best time they can possibly have being the BEST band right now! Let them live a little! ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: Re: Sommsfest 96 >I have the solution to our private concert problem. Let's have a Somms >convention!!!! Picture this Sommsters from all over the world coming >together at a Holiday Inn(OK I guess the first one will have to be on >Seth's stomping grounds). We could have the BIG SOUNDGARDEN SWAP MEET. >Everyone bring their SG stuff to show off, trade and fight over. Maybe even >trade a hunky hubby or two. Soundgarden look alike contests. Pageant for >"Hootchie of the Year". Ben's spitting contest(who can spit furthest and >most accurate) Essay writing on a variety of subjects in one hundred words >or less: Why Kim should go free. Why I want to have Chris's baby >Why Matt should bring back drum solos. A contest of Name that >Soundgarden tune( I can name that song in three notes!) A tee shirt making >workshop. Another workshop in IRC for us in the computer knucklehead >catagory. The possiblities are endless! And for the finale a private >Soundgarden concert in the Holiday Inn lounge! toni Hmmm. This has some possibilities. In all seriousness, why not democratically pick a date on the (hopefully) headlining tour. We can try to get as many sommsters as possible to gather and we could have sortof a mini-convention. We could let the band know about it, and who knows? Maybe they'll even show up to hit us while we try to take pictures! I nominate Boston (cambridge). Not only because that's where I was born and raised, but also because it's the cradle of sommsivilization. -- Ben Ben Timberlake I'm getting off Northwestern University this Merry-Go-Round! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: #metallica takeover attempt Okay folks, listen up. Yeah, we almost did it. We kicked some ass, took some names. I found great joy in it. I almost considered it my newest calling. And I have a Log of what went on in the channel if anyone wants it. Let me know and it's yours. BUT TAKE NOTE!!! The "W" guy we couldn't de-op was a REGISTERD BOT, or Undernet Channel Service. What we did, should never happen again if we want to continue to use undernet. It's like going on the White House tour with a loaded gun. We may have gotten away with it this time. There is no way that me or my cohorts know of to deop the BOT, so it is an exercise in futility. Maybe we should declare war on the #metallica on effnet? The K.T.M.S. stands ready if the need should arise. Kim Thayil for President!!! Kim Thayil '96!!! The list thug, Aaron "I use the THUG protection services, and I would recommend it to anyone, including God"-Kim Thayil ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: SHOW ME YOUR TITS!!! Heheh, jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) wrote: >The cooler with the sign "show me your tits". Given to you by the one and >only List Thug himself. Wow, I'm honored. I get to give away the cooler that says you guessed it, "Show me your tits" at the SOMMS convention. I want to enter the Mr. Hootchie pageant too, damnit. If anyone tries to run against me, I'll beat them with the cooler! :) Nah, I'm too nice to beat up anyone on the list. Maybe. Okay, it depends. Nothingman, watch out. I can hear it now, the band serenading me to the tune of Mrs. America and Chris singing, "There he is, Mr. Hootchie SOMMS, isn't he lovely, isn't he grand....." Okay, I have an overactive imagination sometimes, but who cares? Kim Thayil for President!!! The list thug, Aaron "But I wanted the cooler! *pout*"-Kim Thayil ------------------------------ Subject: Re: rant & rave... From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Aug 04, 1996 13:06:33, 'jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote)' wrote: >listening and >purchasing masses would turn to sources other than popular radio, mtv >and magazines to get their dose of musical goodness. heck, almost all >of my favorite albums have been the result of setting aside an >afternoon every month or so to browse around small record stores with >in-house listening stations and just listen to stuff. Grote, the problem is there are lots of people out there who do not have the desire to really *listen* to music. It is not a part of their life it is just the soundtrack that plays behind their everyday actions. And with most people attention span these days being an average of about 3 minutes(gee, just long enough to watch the newest *cool* video on MTV) they are not going to put out the effort to find good new music or even rediscover good old music. It's too much work! So they will let the "hot hit" radio stations choose what they like and don't like. I agree it is a shame. Alot of people settle for lame, uninspired, play it until you want to puke, popular music. It's easier that way!!! All we can do is continue to support the bands we like and spread the word. And don't expect things to change. I forgot the most important reason that there are Top 40 stations. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$- that's the bottom line! The record companies and the radio stations make money when people listen to their repetitive drivel. The sponsers(who pay the bills) are happy, the radio station is happy and the record companies are happy! And we the listening public are either content with what they spoon feed us or have to go to great lenghts to hear the music we want to hear! toni ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (hasswipee) Subject: Re: #SOMMS/you know you're obsessed with SOUNDGARDEN >PS: Shroom, I know you're trapped in AOLHell, but is it possible for >you to get to #Somms so I can tell you stories about the Howard Stern >Movie? Yes it is possible for people on AOL to use #somms, which usually has ppl in it now (looks like all the bitching about it finally got it started). Anyways i posted these long ass instructions on how to use IRC on AOL, apparently no one paid attention becasue i havent seen any AOLers in #somms. If anybody would like me to post the instructions again email me. - -Raul, the useless facts and stats compiler ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: hmmm, sommsfest '96 Cambridge sounds like an OK place. I would only take me about 8 hours to drive there.... BUT, i think we need to wait on this. If there is even a fall/winter tour, we need to pick a weekend date so more people can make it. I nominate Seth's place as a place of slumber..hehehehe jerm is happy on mornin caffeine ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: belated thoughts... hey all... i know this is a few days past due, but... it's extremely unlikely that sg will ever play any kind of unplugged show whatsoever, imho...however, as was suggested before, an album recorded acoustically would be kind of cool. although i probably would cringe at seeing sg release an album of acoustic "hits," here's the existing sg songs that i think would translate well to an acoustic setting... 1. gun 2. dusty 3. fresh tendrils 4. burden in my hand 5. hands all over (a bitchin' slide guitar player would help on this one) 6. searching with my good eye closed 7. like suicide 8. mind riot 9. fell on black days 10. boot camp (w/ some effects, or it would probably sound a bit flat) 11. 4th of july 12. show me 13. head down oooh...that would be a good set. yup yup. (just for kicks, it would be kind of funny for them to rip into "circle of power" or "beyond the wheel..." i don't think those poor bronzed strings could handle the onslaught...) later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: "Charles M. Croslin" Subject: Re: People have no taste God bless you! I don't usually diss bands as a general rule, but Bush....eeeyewww! Anybody willing to fight you to listen to Bush over BMF deserves a broken nose! Damn! Chas On Fri, 2 Aug 1996, Carole Goodman wrote: > I was at a party the other night and after listening to Bush for over an > hour. I made my way over to the CD player. I changed the cd to BMF and > everyone kept saying "Ivy, what the hell is this?" There were about 35 > people in the room and only one other had heard it. (Just a note that the > guy who knew who it was liked me so he bought the cd knowing I liked it, > pathedic eh?). I ended up getting tackled and hit in the face. So now I > have a huge red mark on my face and a sprained finger just to listen to some > decent music. People are very irritating at times. Just thought I'd let > ya'll know. > Ivy > BTW the guy I fought w/has a fractured nose. he he... > DOWN WITH BUSH!!! > > ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: sg response It is our business as to what, where, and when Chris drinks because it fucks up his voice. In an interview a few years back, Chris specifically stated that he shuns drinking when on tour because it adversely effects his performance. This year, however, Chris himself (& many of the journalists who interviewed him for DOTU/Lolla promo articles) are the ones who keep bringing up the what, where, and whens. Actually, I really don't think Chris is drinking all that much on the tour. What IS a serious problem is his chain smoking. The guy refuses to vocalize -- saying that not only does it not help the ease of his performance, but that it actually makes his voice more tired than had he done nothing. Why won't anyone enlighten him to the fact that if that's the result, HE'S DOING IT WRONG!!! 1) He need to get 'The Patch'. And, 2) Vocalize. When Caryn said that he failed my voice test at the Gorge, I got a big, ugly lump in my own throat. And now they've canceled their last Lolla performance because Chris apparently strained(?) his chords. At 32 yrs. (and don't argue with me over whether or not 32 is old), his voice is(has) changing(ed). It's a fact. Chris has better control over his voice now than in years past but his range is getting harder to maintain. He's needs to care for it or lose it. -Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: kjm@mtool.com (Karen Monoker) at nylanr01 Date: 8/5/96 10:27 AM Why is it everyone's business what, where, and when he decides to drink? I don't understand why it is any different for CC, it isn't like he is doing anything offensive to anyone. Let the man drink! ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: Sommsfest 96 We could always sit around the bar, reciting Haiku... Greg On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Charles M. Croslin wrote: > > This seems like a good idea folks. Who's gonna have more fun at a Holiday > Inn together than 500 Soundgarden fans? Perhaps only SG themselves. Maybe > if this happens, we should invite the band and think of some way to > entertain THEM ( and I don't mean fawning all over them, telling them > what gods many on this list believe them to be). After all, its the least > we can do... > > Let's keep tossing this around > > Chas ------------------------------ From: "Charles M. Croslin" Subject: Re: Sommsfest 96 This seems like a good idea folks. Who's gonna have more fun at a Holiday Inn together than 500 Soundgarden fans? Perhaps only SG themselves. Maybe if this happens, we should invite the band and think of some way to entertain THEM ( and I don't mean fawning all over them, telling them what gods many on this list believe them to be). After all, its the least we can do... Let's keep tossing this around Chas On Sun, 4 Aug 1996, Tonerkin wrote: > I have the solution to our private concert problem. Let's have a Somms > convention!!!! Picture this Sommsters from all over the world coming > together at a Holiday Inn(OK I guess the first one will have to be on > Seth's stomping grounds). We could have the BIG SOUNDGARDEN SWAP MEET. > Everyone bring their SG stuff to show off, trade and fight over. Maybe even > trade a hunky hubby or two. Soundgarden look alike contests. Pageant for > "Hootchie of the Year". Ben's spitting contest(who can spit furthest and > most accurate) Essay writing on a variety of subjects in one hundred words > or less: Why Kim should go free. Why I want to have Chris's baby > Why Matt should bring back drum solos. A contest of Name that > Soundgarden tune( I can name that song in three notes!) A tee shirt making > workshop. Another workshop in IRC for us in the computer knucklehead > catagory. The possiblities are endless! And for the finale a private > Soundgarden concert in the Holiday Inn lounge! toni > ------------------------------ From: "Joseph E \"Gene\" Candelaria" Subject: Johnny Cash sings Rusty Cage Among the many free things we got at Irvinepalooza, was a casette called "American as Fuck" with some of the bands that have played Lollapalooza and one was Johnny Cash singing "Rusty Cage". It's pretty good and as *everybody* knows "Johnny", as he was known, is an original! If anyone doubts this, just check out the pic of Johnny on the cover of the American As Fuck casetted. American As Fuck! - -- ; > Joseph E. "Gene" Candelaria http://www.inland.net/~sunishun My place in time is a big nada history. But, my place in time with you is shown symbolically. -----Mike Watt ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: #metallica takeover attempt n On Mon, 5 Aug 1996 ThNrthFace@aol.com wrote: > Okay folks, listen up. > > Yeah, we almost did it. We kicked some ass, took some names. I found great > joy in it. I almost considered it my newest calling. And I have a Log of what > went on in the channel if anyone wants it. Let me know and it's yours. BUT > TAKE NOTE!!! The "W" guy we couldn't de-op was a REGISTERD BOT, or Undernet > Channel Service. What we did, should never happen again if we want to > continue to use undernet. i agree. the whole point of undernet is that it's a more civilized atmosphere than effnet. i spent an entire year in channel wars with "dOOdz" and "punks" who thought it was their god-given right to take over #pearl_jam because they hated them. what happened the other night on #metallica was just as bad and it's go to stop. we'll NEVER be allowed to register #somms if we keep this up. on that note, anyone have any interest in running a bot? i don't. i will be glad to register the channel on undernet (if i get some people who are willing to be responsible -- jerm, seth, mc cheese, srussell, who else? we need at least five). but i don't know how to run a bot nor do i have the time or the inclination.... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Sommsfest 96 On Mon, 5 Aug 1996 BTimLake@aol.com wrote: > >I have the solution to our private concert problem. Let's have a Somms > >convention!!!! Picture this Sommsters from all over the world coming > > Hmmm. This has some possibilities. In all seriousness, why not > democratically pick a date on the (hopefully) headlining tour. We can try > to get as many sommsters as possible to gather and we could have sortof a > mini-convention. We could let the band know about it, and who knows? > Maybe they'll even show up to hit us while we try to take pictures! > I nominate Boston (cambridge). Not only because that's where I was born > and raised, but also because it's the cradle of sommsivilization. realistically we need two locations: east coast and west coast. people in the middle can choose which side based on airfare considerations. and for the west coast, of course, there IS no choice... Seattle! yes, come to lovely seattle, eat seafood, go bowling at west seattle bowl (site of the headbanger's ball bowling match [thanks andrea]), and of course, 'a sound garden'. get drunk and run around magnusson park. hang out at the ok hotel. stand in front of the 'singles' building in the same spot chris cornell did. hell, i'll rent a van and organize the whole thing. ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ Subject: The convention / The Webchat From: seth Having a convention here sounds good to me. You all have a standing invitation to stop by whenever you're in town anyway, but if it were arranged so that a whole bunch of people were in town at the same time, that would be great. Granted, if more than 2 people are going to attend the convention, I don't think I can provide lodging. :) Also, did anyone hook a tape deck to your sound card and record the broadcast of the interview with Matt on Friday? I briefly considered doing it before the chat started, but I forgot, and now of course I would really like to have it on tape. I'd be willing to provide a tape and pay postage if anyone could make me a copy. seth ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: new thread for ya's On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, GRRL NIKI FREER wrote: > here's a thread i thought of last night. okay, disclamier: THIS IS IN > NO WAY OFFENSIVE TO SUSAN OR SILVER MANAGEMENTS!!! so, matt, if you > read this, don't get all pissed at me. hell, *i* think it's offensive. but whatever. > do you guys think that if susan and chris were married, but she > didn't manage the band, she'd get as much attention as she does? i don't think susan gets a lot of attention. i personally think she maintains an extremely professional profile at all times. it's the media that insist on reminding us all that she's married to chris. it's irrelevant. (and as a matter of record, she didn't want to manage them, but at the time there was no one in seattle that had any experience with indie bands.) and lest we forget, she also manages Alice in Chains? And she used to share an office with Kelly Curtis, Pearl Jam's manager? I think they also almost went into business together but the bands got to be too big. >or > vice versa, they weren't married but she still managed them? i think she'd still get a lot of attention as a woman in an arena where there are still few successful role models, and also just as a talented manager and businesswoman of two very successful bands. and personally, i see her getting more attention because of the facts above than she gets as mrs. chris cornell . and you all wonder why she doesn't go with chris to the grammies??? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Enrique Olavarria Subject: quasi non-soundgarden related somms convention thing >That was one of the other songs!!! Outstanding, I think the 3 rd was >AC/DC but don't quote me! mmmm. there's a live AC/DC album (from the Bon Scott days) called "If you want blood, you've got it". the song with the same name is not on it (can't remember where it is though). and... "Out of the Silent Planet" is the name of King's X's first album. The "Out of the Silent Planet" song is the first track in their second album "gretchen goes to nebraska". about the somms convention: im going up to the US on january, so if we're gonna do it, let's do it then. :) do i have to take in all of this just to get to nebraska! enrique. ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: new thread for ya's here's a thread i thought of last night. okay, disclamier: THIS IS IN NO WAY OFFENSIVE TO SUSAN OR SILVER MANAGEMENTS!!! so, matt, if you read this, don't get all pissed at me. do you guys think that if susan and chris were married, but she didn't manage the band, she'd get as much attention as she does? or vice versa, they weren't married but she still managed them? i dunno, i just thought of it as i tried to sleep last night. any thoughts on this? endless nameless ____ the lives we make never seem to get us anywhere but dead... - --chris cornell "the day i tried to live" ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: new thread for ya's I think she gets the attention because she is both. How many other managers of major bands get that kind of attention? It is because she is married to someone that women would kill to be married to! And the fact that they pull off their relationship while still working together so closely. I think there is also a fascination with any major rock star that has been with the same woman (i am assuming!) for 10 years - pretty rare. I also think she has gotten a lot more pub. since AIC recently became headline material (to the average music listener, not us long-time devotees). America is so fascinated with this kind of stuff - would we even know Tom Arnold without Roseanne? How much extra publicity has Dennis Rodman received because he had a thing with Madonna? It is the connection of celebrities that fascinates society, and the fact that there is an endless curiousity about Susan because of the "seemingly unattainable" Mr. Cornell. Good bedtime thought! Remember to forget, and rename your shame! --cc - ---------- From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Sent: Monday, August 05, 1996 1:37 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: new thread for ya's here's a thread i thought of last night. okay, disclamier: THIS IS IN NO WAY OFFENSIVE TO SUSAN OR SILVER MANAGEMENTS!!! so, matt, if you read this, don't get all pissed at me. do you guys think that if susan and chris were married, but she didn't manage the band, she'd get as much attention as she does? or vice versa, they weren't married but she still managed them? i dunno, i just thought of it as i tried to sleep last night. any thoughts on this? endless nameless ____ the lives we make never seem to get us anywhere but dead... - --chris cornell "the day i tried to live" ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Shirts Got 'em. All 3. I haven't seen them yet, but I asked mummy to open one of the packs to check out the goods. -Vikki V: So, what does it look like ma? M: It's a yellowish tan shirt w/ black writing on the front. V: What does the back look like? M: It's got a picture of blue barbed wire w/ purple writing. V: It's a twisted fork. M: A what? Oh. It looks like blue barbed wire. V: What does it say ma? M: Searching With My Good Eye Glued V: Closed. Not glued. Closed. M: It's hard to read. It's purple on blue. It's cute. You can return them, right? (I voted for the neutral color T-shirt too, but it seems white is the better choice for Ts w/ pictures.) ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Oopsy I meant 'Posting', not 'Searching'. -Vikki M: Searching With My Good Eye Glued V: Closed. Not glued. Closed. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: sg response On Mon, 5 Aug 1996 ansel@morgan.com wrote: > It is our business as to what, where, and when Chris drinks > because it fucks up his voice. In an interview a few years > back, Chris specifically stated that he shuns drinking when > on tour because it adversely effects his performance. This > year, however, Chris himself (& many of the journalists who > interviewed him for DOTU/Lolla promo articles) are the ones > who keep bringing up the what, where, and whens. Actually, > I really don't think Chris is drinking all that much on the > tour. What IS a serious problem is his chain smoking. amen, sister. eddie vedder has been seen with a cigarette in his hand every time he's been in public lately. he's got to be STUPID to think that it's not going to affect his voice. > The > guy refuses to vocalize -- saying that not only does it not > help the ease of his performance, but that it actually makes > his voice more tired than had he done nothing. i think a lot of rock performers refuse to take voice lessons or vocalize or warm up because they think it removes the 'edge' or the spontaineity of their performance, which is bullshit. it would just enable them to perform longer without getting so damned tired. > 2) Vocalize. When Caryn said that he failed my voice test > at the Gorge, I got a big, ugly lump in my own throat. And > now they've canceled their last Lolla performance because > Chris apparently strained(?) his chords. At 32 yrs. (and > don't argue with me over whether or not 32 is old), his > voice is(has) changing(ed). It's a fact. Chris has better > control over his voice now than in years past but his range > is getting harder to maintain. He's needs to care for it or > lose it. -Vikki he is a schmuck, he played outdoor venues in varying weathers and climates, changing daily. humidity (or the lack thereof), heat, cold, dust, pollen -- all those things affect his voice. and as you get older you just are less invincible than you were when you were 22. fact. you CAN stay up all night, you'll just need more time to recover from it. i personally think they were fed up and wanted to come home already. and as to the metallica fans, if i go on #somms and get interrogated by ANYONE as to what other bands I like besides soundgarden as a condition for being 'allowed' to stay there, i personally will have you banned from channel. ANYONE from the list is allowed there, anyone who is interested in soundgarden is alloed there, i dont' care if they like metallica, bush, stone temple pilots, or any other band that i/you hate! there were people at lolla who billed themselves as soundgarden fans who were just as offensive as the metallica fans, and there were rancid fans there that i wanted to kill as well. the tour is over, let's stop bashing people, okay??? - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: FW: sg response I agree - it is our business when they start cancelling shows! If they ever cancelled a show I had tickets for, I would be pissed and send him a patch! His smoking and drinking, and whatever other habits he has are his business, but when they start disappointing fans because of it - THAT is a problem. - ---------- From: ansel@morgan.com Sent: Monday, August 05, 1996 12:15 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU; kjm@mtool.com (Karen Monoker) Subject: Re: sg response It is our business as to what, where, and when Chris drinks because it fucks up his voice. In an interview a few years back, Chris specifically stated that he shuns drinking when on tour because it adversely effects his performance. This year, however, Chris himself (& many of the journalists who interviewed him for DOTU/Lolla promo articles) are the ones who keep bringing up the what, where, and whens. Actually, I really don't think Chris is drinking all that much on the tour. What IS a serious problem is his chain smoking. The guy refuses to vocalize -- saying that not only does it not help the ease of his performance, but that it actually makes his voice more tired than had he done nothing. Why won't anyone enlighten him to the fact that if that's the result, HE'S DOING IT WRONG!!! 1) He need to get 'The Patch'. And, 2) Vocalize. When Caryn said that he failed my voice test at the Gorge, I got a big, ugly lump in my own throat. And now they've canceled their last Lolla performance because Chris apparently strained(?) his chords. At 32 yrs. (and don't argue with me over whether or not 32 is old), his voice is(has) changing(ed). It's a fact. Chris has better control over his voice now than in years past but his range is getting harder to maintain. He's needs to care for it or lose it. -Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: kjm@mtool.com (Karen Monoker) at nylanr01 Date: 8/5/96 10:27 AM Why is it everyone's business what, where, and when he decides to drink? I don't understand why it is any different for CC, it isn't like he is doing anything offensive to anyone. Let the man drink! ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: FW: Sommsfest 96 GREAT idea - let's do it, anywhere, anytime (shud probably be a weekend so people can travel). I'm new to this list (but a diehard SG fan), and I like the ideas you guys have! I heard the US dates will be announced end of Sept, - anyone else heard that? Well I don't care where they are playing. but we should definitely have our own Sommsfest and tell the band and give them the chance to meet the most devoted and loyal pack of fans in the world! Hey, by the way, anyone know the lyrics to the last verse of Burden? It is not on the insert - sounds like they added it last minute but I can't understand the godly Cornell! E. - ---------- From: BTimLake@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 05, 1996 6:29 AM To: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com; somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Sommsfest 96 >I have the solution to our private concert problem. Let's have a Somms >convention!!!! Picture this Sommsters from all over the world coming >together at a Holiday Inn(OK I guess the first one will have to be on >Seth's stomping grounds). We could have the BIG SOUNDGARDEN SWAP MEET. >Everyone bring their SG stuff to show off, trade and fight over. Maybe even >trade a hunky hubby or two. Soundgarden look alike contests. Pageant for >"Hootchie of the Year". Ben's spitting contest(who can spit furthest and >most accurate) Essay writing on a variety of subjects in one hundred words >or less: Why Kim should go free. Why I want to have Chris's baby >Why Matt should bring back drum solos. A contest of Name that >Soundgarden tune( I can name that song in three notes!) A tee shirt making >workshop. Another workshop in IRC for us in the computer knucklehead >catagory. The possiblities are endless! And for the finale a private >Soundgarden concert in the Holiday Inn lounge! toni Hmmm. This has some possibilities. In all seriousness, why not democratically pick a date on the (hopefully) headlining tour. We can try to get as many sommsters as possible to gather and we could have sortof a mini-convention. We could let the band know about it, and who knows? Maybe they'll even show up to hit us while we try to take pictures! I nominate Boston (cambridge). Not only because that's where I was born and raised, but also because it's the cradle of sommsivilization. -- Ben Ben Timberlake I'm getting off Northwestern University this Merry-Go-Round! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" ------------------------------ From: JAime Gonzalez Subject: Re:Sommsfest'96 We could entertain them,make them laugh,by bringing our Guitars and Amps,rent a Drum kit. play Soundgarden songs we all know.Somebody will have to sing,but not me. Gonzo Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: #SOMMS OK, I am new to this mailing list thing, could someone please explain to me what #SOMMS is (and no laughing at me for not knowing!) Seems to be a big topic of discussion around here...so cool to know what masses of SG devotees there are. I'm here in Cincinnati, where country is the big thing - GAG! Eliza ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Re: new thread for ya's No and for part 2, Well,Susan Silver manages Alice in Chains and Her name doe not come up very often where AIC is involved.So I would believe that she would not get as much attention. Gonzo At 01:37 PM 8/5/96 -0500, you wrote: >here's a thread i thought of last night. okay, disclamier: THIS IS IN >NO WAY OFFENSIVE TO SUSAN OR SILVER MANAGEMENTS!!! so, matt, if you >read this, don't get all pissed at me. > > do you guys think that if susan and chris were married, but she >didn't manage the band, she'd get as much attention as she does? or >vice versa, they weren't married but she still managed them? i dunno, >i just thought of it as i tried to sleep last night. any thoughts on >this? > > endless nameless > >____ > >the lives we make never seem >to get us anywhere >but dead... > >--chris cornell "the day i tried to live" > > ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Re: Please! Wow,how much can you bench press? aLL kidding aside,send subscription request to SAPERL@MIT.EDU Welcome to the Soundgarden Mailing list.do you have an extra copy of BMF/SOMMS for me? Gonzo At 01:43 PM 8/5/96 -0000, you wrote: > Hi I am Sandi and would very much like to be added to the somms list. I am a strong Soundgarden fan and wish to meet people who are the same. >Thank you >sandi > > > > ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: Sommsfest'96 That sounds fun! I sang in a cool band for a bunch of years - that would be a blast to do our version of their unimitatable (is that a word?) tunes. - ---------- From: JAime Gonzalez Sent: Monday, August 05, 1996 3:24 PM To: SOMMS@MIT.EDU Subject: Re:Sommsfest'96 We could entertain them,make them laugh,by bringing our Guitars and Amps,rent a Drum kit. play Soundgarden songs we all know.Somebody will have to sing,but not me. Gonzo Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: Sommsfest 96 How about just right in the middle of the country so it is convenient for everyone? I do agree that Seattle is the only choice for the West coast - but we would probably have a harder time just keeping it a list convention. Just my $.02. I've never been but am planning a trip soon - CAN'T wait... realistically we need two locations: east coast and west coast. people in the middle can choose which side based on airfare considerations. and for the west coast, of course, there IS no choice... Seattle! yes, come to lovely seattle, eat seafood, go bowling at west seattle bowl (site of the headbanger's ball bowling match [thanks andrea]), and of course, 'a sound garden'. get drunk and run around magnusson park. hang out at the ok hotel. stand in front of the 'singles' building in the same spot chris cornell did. hell, i'll rent a van and organize the whole thing. ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Ryan Kamp Subject: new member Hi, Im new to the list..and just wanted to say hi :) and i just happen to be the "list thugs" little brother...so be nice...or i'll have him kick your ass :) Ryan ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: RE: Sommsfest 96 okay gang, let's be realistic... there's no way in HELL the band are going to play a private gig for list members only. or maybe a fan club/list gig. but let's be real here. i was joking... more or less thinking that when the band play seattle, it would be nice for a bunch of us to get together. but a *real* convention, with hotel rooms and convention rooms and the like, is a SHITLOAD of work, money, legal problems... and is beyond our reach, at least at the moment. that was the whole reasoning behind the tshirts... so we had a way to identify each other at lolla. hopefully... we will have them by the fall/winter tour (or at this rate, we might just have new shirts by then). and right in the middle of the country wouldn't necessarily be the most convenient for everyone. if that was the case, all conventions would always be held in kansas city or st. louis or something like that... - --caryn On Mon, 5 Aug 1996, Eliza J Polly wrote: > How about just right in the middle of the country so it is convenient for everyone? I do agree that Seattle is the only choice for the West coast - but we would probably have a harder time just keeping it a list convention. Just my $.02. I've never been but am planning a trip soon - CAN'T wait... > > > realistically we need two locations: east coast and west coast. people in > the middle can choose which side based on airfare considerations. > > and for the west coast, of course, there IS no choice... > > Seattle! > > yes, come to lovely seattle, eat seafood, go bowling at west seattle bowl > (site of the headbanger's ball bowling match [thanks andrea]), and of > course, 'a sound garden'. get drunk and run around magnusson park. hang > out at the ok hotel. stand in front of the 'singles' building in the same > spot chris cornell did. hell, i'll rent a van and organize the whole > thing. ;-) > > --caryn > > ------------------------------ From: unkind@bbs.cowland.com Subject: lalalal i really like the sound of this convention thinge, and being only 17, its in the hands of my dad whether i can go or not, if there is one, and he better let me go or i will use the power of the soundgarden to stick cheese in his ears. anyway, i stayed in a holiday inn before during a marching band trip to virginia, an dwe were in this one room with two queen size beds... anyway, the cost of the roo was something like $110 a night... are we gonna have to pay that for ourselves, or do we get some kind of niffty discount, or what? if this thing does happen, that is. and i really want to go... :) another thing i noticed is that the day i made my helix account (stolen.prayers@helix.xiii.com) is exactly two years since i first saw soundgarden (6.14.94) in rochester... great, great show.. but i would have to say the second time i saw em (pownal lolla) was the greatest, because i was really close to the stage and i could even read chris's hirt and i got in the moshpit.. (uh.. SHIRT, not HIRT) at rochester, it was my first real concert, so i kinda got winded from being so squished and moshed :) so i ended up sitting in these seats about a mile away fromthe band.. ok, the rochester war memorial's not that big, but it was a lot farther away than i wanted to be... i was right in front for lolla at pownal, and at the ferris lolla i was kinda far away, also in texas it's REALLY hot.. too hot for a fat lil new york kid like me :) so i kinda felt like shit while they were on... i dunno... im just glad i've gotten to see soundgarden three times :) damn, i wish i knew what's going on with chris's voice... chow unkind@cowland.com ------------------------------ From: "Kazam Ali" Subject: San Jose, CA, Lollapalooza. Friday, Aug 2. Hello Sommians, (long-ass) post! I just wanted to give my quick impression of Lolla this year and as a Lolla first-timer and a rare presence on the list, I couldn't keep quiet enough! I realize that someone already gave their review, but I'll try to fill in any missing parts. I just finished reading the few other posts of the SJ show and only wish that we all could have met up somehow!! Oh well, maybe next time. Well, I got there at around 1:00 to meet another SOMMS member, but unfortunately that never came around (sorry, Jen!). I proudly wore my 1994 tour short with Mr. Screaming Elf, but failed to attract any other list members. I never really got a chance to see Psychotica and Rancid mainly because I hit the beer garden pretty early! The main stage was set up in the main field inside the stadium and the all the other stuff(2nd and 3rd stages, booths, beer) were outside in the smaller fields. They had the whole main field covered with this "blanket" so sitting down was rather comfortable. By the time we made our rounds, we kicked back and watched the Screaming Trees. I hadn't seen them since their 1993 tour with the Spin Doctors, but they really ROCKED! All of the members were totally into it and the crowd was pretty well behaved. It was fairly hot out there and the sun was directly overhead which meant that my previously confiscated bottle of water was meaning a lot more to me! After the Trees' set, we went back through the beer garden and well, you know.... When the Ramones came out, I decided that would be a good time to st art making my way into the front for SG's set. All that I could remember from the Ramones was that notorious "1-2-3-4.." from Johnny and a brilliant 45? minute long set without any breaks. I tried taking some pictures with one of the two disposable cameras that I smuggled in, but I was way too far for anything impressive. During the intermission before the Devo set, I made my way to the inside corner of the left part of the T barricade. It was a perfect view for any kind of lead singer pictures! Devo finally came on after what seemed to be an eternity and they let loose with, of course, Whip It. They came out dressed in their yellow jumpsuits and eventually managed to tear most of it off each other by the end of the set! They were absolutely hilarious to watch! At one point, the lead singer, (what the hell's his name?) actually came out, jumped on the barricade, leaned over and yelled to the crowd, "ARE WE NOT MEN??" and the crowd responded "WE ARE DEVO!!!" Seeing that the audience was around my age, (21 and younger), I was totally surprised to see how much they knew the songs! Not only did Devo play Whip It and Satisfaction, they also played Girl U Want. It was the first time I had ever heard THEIR version and it really kicked butt! Those guys really worked hard and credit was definitely due to them. AND THEN after a long wait, SG CAME ON!! I was so excited when I saw the band, I almost shat my pants!! (sorry for the imagery--two years of bundled up energy does that to you!) Chris had some ora nge shirt on with "Clean and Serene" written on the back, Kim, well Kim was Kim,..couldn't see Matt all that well and Ben looked in a real chipper mood. The songlist was the same as the past shows, but Chris' voice was masterful. When they opened up with Spoonman, the crowd simply snapped(of course, not as bad as Ty Cobb!). Thank God I was in the front, because the people immediately behind me were holding on for dear life trying to avoid being sucked in by the writhing pit(s). Just being able to hear Chris after the disappointing SNL appearance was totally refreshing. Pretty Noose was totally on. It didn't seem like he was straining at all and he seemed to have a constant smile on his face throughout the whole set. Chris also passed the "she's resolved to beeeeeeee!!!!" test from Let Me Drown....Simply awesome. As someone mentioned earlier, Chris was doing his share of audience bantering by making fun of the people in the nosebleed sections saying "why aren't you motherfuckers standing up in 207??" Then he went on and yelled at some people in the back of the stadium, calling 'em "cocksuckers" for not standing up, or something like that....Great! Great! I was laughing my ass off! At one point, Ben was standing in front of Chris during one of the songs making some dumb-ass faces in front of him, trying to make our beloved singer crack up. The whole band seemed to be in a good mood and so was the crowd, except for one person who tried throwing a Reef sandal at Chris--he just hurled it right back! Ben and Kim were constantly switching positions, Ben kept on making really fucked up facial and body contortions and Matt just fuckin' flew on his kit. (Sorry ladies, Chris didn't take off the shirt!) I took out my cameras and was constantly taking pictures of all the band members. I had to use them quick because SG came on right before sunset, so the light was turning shitty. The set itself was great, but I thought it was a bit too short. By the time SG left the stage, I was almost dead from exhaustion and my shirt was soaked with the sweat of what must have been a thousand drenched bodies, so I made the smart move of getting out before the Metallica set. I DO have to say that Metallica's set was great!, but anyway, I'll try getting those pics uploaded (if they turned out allright). I also met a LOT of die-hard SG fans who didn't know about Seth's web page....Hopefully they'll be joining us soon. Thanks for reading( and your patience), Kazam ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia I have another little trivia queston: Name bands that have songs written that are the same as the band's name. Right now I recall: Pennywise by Pennywise on the Pennywise lp, Bad Religion by Bad Religion on the Bad Religion ep (also on the Back To The Known ep & a comp lp), Bad Company by Bad Company... but I'm not sure on which album. Or how about bands that have songs written by other bands using their names; i.e: Ash's latest single 'Goldfinger' & the band Goldfinger. um... Billy Ocean's 'Loverboy' & the band Loverboy. I believe Metallica has a song named 'The Cure' & the Cure. Alice in Chains 'Frogs' & the Frogs... oh jeez, I should go study for finals (c: I'm nobody except genetic run-around, ray (c: ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: SG shirt Blasphemy! Them is fightin' words Mo!! That's my favorite shirt. I have both the navy and the puke green. -Vikki :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Anyone got that really silly looking SG shirt with a broken Tricycle as a front print and for a back print, a wheel saying "Come stand me up". Jeez am I sorry for buying that...Mo. ------------------------------ From: Tim Gregory Subject: Soundgarden Reflex Flexi Disc for auction. Yes, I'm sure you've heard of it. It came with a '91 issue of Reflex Magazine. It has two unreleased songs. (Well, one of the songs, "She's a Politician" is on SOMMS, but not all of us have that. The other song cannot be found anywhere else, it's "Christmas with the Devil" by Rights of the Accused.) It is in VG+ condition. Still plays just fine. And the opening bid is $35 US funds(that includes 1st class S&H). No trades, please. I'll announce the highest bid once a day. The auction will close on Saturday, August 10 or when I have not recieved a higher bid in two days. I'll announce the winner on Sunday (unless they ask me not to.) I reserve the right to not send the record until I recieve payment from the winner. Got it? You know you want it. - -tim ------------------------------ Subject: Stop the presses - incoming news From: seth The situation: I'm confused, but I'm not the only one. The fools running the Netcast of yesterday's Lolla show seem to be the most confused of anyone. Please read this: - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Mon, 5 Aug 1996 14:17:54 -0700 (PDT) From: SUSAN@crystl.ucsb.edu Subject: Soundgarden To: saperl@MIT.EDU Hi Seth. Great Soundgarden page. I'm just writing to let you know that Soundgarden did indeed play the final Lollapalooza show, at Irvine Meadows on Aug. 4th. I drove 2.5 hrs from Santa Barbara to see it, so if they hadn't showed, I would have been pissed! Chris Cornell's voice did sound a little ragged on the first few songs, but by the time they got to Rusty Cage, it sounded fine. The solo version of Black Hole Sun was excellent (voice sounded great); they did not do the Doors cover that I've been reading about in the reviews on your page. I'd be pleased to submit a more extensive review on the page, but the tour's over, so you are probably shutting that down... This seems to be the second major voice-related tour problem for Soundgarden. Is Chris ruining his voice by wailing the way he does (the classical music trained non-fans in my lab keep saying "Man, that guy's wrecking his voice" every time they hear some of the songs...)? Maybe you could discuss this on the page. Well, to wrap up, Soundgarden was excellent at the final Lollapalooza show, and, again, great page. Susan susan@sbxray.ucsb.edu - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: and drown in alcohol... On 5 Aug 1996, Karen Monoker wrote: > I just wanted to say a few things about everyone who is ragging on Chris > Cornell for either drinking or being drunk etc... Why is it everyone's > business what, where, and when he decides to drink? There is nothing wrong > with drinking and it makes me wonder how old most of the somms people on this > different for CC, it isn't like he is doing anything offensive to anyone. Let personally, if chris cornell drinks a little it won't worry me. that is his business, pure and simple. but if he starts to drink more than he can handle, and if it then begins to affect his singing talents, live perfomances, and most importantly, the band, then it would be cause for concern. no-one on the list (at least anyone in their right mind) thinks they can tell chris when and how much to drink. that would be absurd. but soundgarden is, of course, pretty important to us all, and if a band member's actions threaten the band's performance or (at a stretch) existence, then that is more than enough reason to be concerned. it comes down to a question of degree, I guess. I just hope, for obvious reasons, that chris' drinking (did he once refer to himself as an alcoholic?) doesn't ever adversely affect the band in any way. it would be terrible, to say the least. so before you start scoffing at people for being concerned, ask yourself this: is it so wrong to care? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Reflex Flexi Disc for auction. I got mine a couple of years ago by backordering the issue. It cost, oh, about $6 bucks (including postage, thank you). Before anyone tosses $35 (minimum bid, ehem) out the freakin window -- if you so desperately want this song, just mail me a tape or we'll work out a trade, or whatever. Jeez. -Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Tim Gregory at nylanr01 Date: 8/5/96 5:54 PM It came with a '91 issue of Reflex Magazine. And the opening bid is $35. ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Lollapalooza at Irvine Meadows... A big hello to all you fellow Sommsters..... Well, I made it out alive! Saturdays show was great!!! Hubby and I had a blast! Got to meet another Somms member..Terry and her husband Tim..(HI!! Tim & Terry!!!!) We had a great time huh??? I guess that I was very lucky to have seen Soundgarden play before Chris hurt his voice on Sundays show...:( (Chris, I hope your doing better and your voice recuperates soon...:) Sorry, Gang... but I will have to give all of you the details in tommarrow digest, due to unexpected tiredness! Yikes ! I must really be getting old. Either that, or my kids are wearing me out for sure!!! Will post soon...................... Christy (SGardnGrl) ------------------------------ From: SOMMS@aol.com Subject: Re: Openers for SG << I think it would be really cool if local bands opened for SG in each city. >> Good idea. The local band from a highschool here, just got signed to Sub Pop!!!! They're called Caesar's Glass Box, keep you eye out Caryn. ~Flutter~ ------------------------------ From: gdflower@orion.oac.uci.edu Subject: WA SOUNDGARDEN SHOW...BIG DISSAPOINTMENT Disclaimer--->>>>Now, I didn't write the following so don't flame me!! I found it on the newsgroup. Is this guy talking about Soundgarden or Metallica????!!!!! ***************************************************************************** Subject: WA SOUNDGARDEN SHOW...BIG DISSAPOINTMENT Date: Fri, 02 Aug 1996 02:36:07 GMT From: muttley@serv.net Organization: ServNet Internet Services Newsgroups: alt.music.soundgarden I'm a big Soundgarden fan who has been seeing them live in concert since 1987. I've never been disappointed by this band... but their WA Lollapalooza performance was a big dissapointment. They have obviously become big rock stars...and I don't consider that a bad thing. But cmon guys...your rock star posing and theatrics are a joke! I think the money and fame has gotten to these guys. The one thing you could always count on Soundgarden for was giving a solid rock show with minimal rock starness. Now we get a lot of coreographed poses, rock star theatrics, and a very uninspiring(and preplanned) knocking over of the amps. Chris Cornell's voice was shot...he has been having problems with it for many years. Kim's guitar playing was top notch...as was Matt's drumming. Ben's bass playing was muddy and not very good. He liked to prance around a lot like a star though. I'd kill to have the old days...when these guys would play great shows at local clubs here in Seattle. I'll never forget seeing them at the UTC Hall in January of 1987...I knew they were a great band. But they need to get back to the basics and make some good music and forget about being rock stars. That probably won't be easy to do. jim muttley@serv.net ************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Mo Subject: RE: Openers for SG Yeah... uh... if yer reading this Matt... COME TO IRELAND ON THE EUROPEAN TOUR!! (Hey, it was worth a try!...) Mo. - ---------- From: JASNL@aol.com[SMTP:JASNL@aol.com] Sent: 05 August 1996 09:40 To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Openers for SG Re: the fall tour openers idea: Yes, that would be a great idea. (I'm in two bands myself, so I'm VERY in favor of it!!) MATT, ARE YOU OUT THERE? Do you have any say in this?? Give us little people a chance!! If locals can't open, I'd still hold some hope that Alice in Chains might tour with Soundgarden. It could happen. I can dream, can't I? Or Pearl Jam... Sally ------------------------------ From: Mo Subject: SG shirt Anyone got that really silly looking SG shirt with a broken Tricycle as a front print and for a back print, a wheel saying "Come stand me up" Jeez am I sorry for buying that... Mo. ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (hasswipee) Subject: irc on aol well some people asked me to re-post this message so here it is: WARNING!!! THIS IS A LONG-ASS MESSAGE ABOUT AOL AND IRC IF YOU DONT HAVE AOL OR IF YOU DO AND DONT WANT IRC..DO NOT READ!! NO SG CONTENT!! this is for all of you AOL'ers who have never enjoyed the joys of IRC. theres gonna be a soundgarden chat that the list is gonna have on sunday night to celebrate it's anniversary. If you would like the opportunity to use IRC..not to mention netscape instead of the shitty AOL web browsers, just follow these steps: 1) You must have windows 3.1 or win95 2) You must have AOL 2.5, if you dont have AOL 2.5, go to keyword:Update and download a v2.5 3) verify that there are no copies of the winsock.dll file already on your computer. If you find other winsock.dll files on your computer, you'll have to rename them (for example, "winsock.dl_") while you're using AOL's Winsock. The way you verify whether you have copies of winsock.dll depends on whether you're using Windows 3.1x or Windows 95. Windows 3.1x. To verify that there are no copies of the winsock.dll file on your computer: 1. Double-click File Manager in the Main program group. 2. On the File Manager File menu, select Search.... 3. Type "winsock.dll" in the Search For field and press Tab. 4. Type C:\ in the Start From field. 5. Check Search all Subdirectories and click OK. 6. If the search finds any copies of winsock.dll on your computer, proceed with caution: back up all copies of winsock.dll, then rename them (something like "winsock.dl_," that is, "winsock.dl" followed by an underscore). If you are not comfortable backing up and renaming files, DO NOT PROCEED with these instructions. Windows 95. To verify that there are no copies of the winsock.dll file on your computer: 1. On the Start Menu, click Find... Files or Folders. 2. Type "winsock.dll" in the Named field and press Tab. 3. Type C:\ in the Look in field. 4. Check the Include Subfolders box and click Find Now. 4) Go to keyword: winsock 5) Click on "Click here to automatically download winsock" 6) Download the file into the directory c:\windows 7) log off from AOL 6) exit and restart windows 7) log on to AOL 8) download mIRC..to do this use the shitty AOL browser and go to () 9) follow the instructions at the site to download and install mIRC, 10)run the 16-bit version of mirc not the 32 bit!! once you have mIRC installed, run it and go to file, then setup, or just click on the little yellow folder. 11) make sure youre in the irc servers part of the setup 12) click on add 13) type in irc02.irc.aol.com in the description AND in the IRC server space. 14) put 6667 under port then click on add 15) where it says real name type your name or a pseudonym or whatever 16) put your e-mail address where it says e-mail address. 17) where it says nick name...you guessed it..put the nick you want to use. alternate is the nick they'll give you if your nick is taken 18) click on ok. 19) it will say unable to resolve local host and then connect cancelled..dont worry 20) go to setup again then click on local info..now you should see some stuff under local host. 21) under ip address put 152 then this is the kinda tricky part. lets say under local host it said 170-19-171.ipt.aol.com then you would put this after 152: .170.19.171 if it said 125-15-167.ipt.aol.com for local host then the ip address would be 152.125.15.167 22) make sure that the boxes next to local host and ip address are UNCHECKED 23) click on ok 24) you should be able to connect now, click on file then on connect or on the little lightning bolt. 25) ok that should be it..you should get a bunch of crap on the screen about your irc server. then it should say end of /MOTD command 26) click on join #somms, or whatever channel you want to join 27) thats it! enjoy!! I hope someone will find this info useful, it took me all morning to figure this out. sorry prodigy and compuserve someone else will have to figure this out for you. If you have any problems with the setup, just e-mail me and ill try to help, dont post to the list. hope to see some of you AOL'ers on #somms - -Raul ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (hasswipee) Subject: Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia >I have another little trivia queston: Name bands that have songs written >that are the same as the band's name. Ummm Porno For Pyros on Porno For Pyros' cd Porno For Pyros. - -Raul ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia Speaking of Pennywise, another rock star bites the dust (or bullet I should say?) What is happening to the music world, or the world in general. Maybe I should go study for something too.... - ---------- From: UnknMan@aol.com Sent: Monday, August 05, 1996 5:01 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Quasi-Soundgarden Related Trivia I have another little trivia queston: Name bands that have songs written that are the same as the band's name. Right now I recall: Pennywise by Pennywise on the Pennywise ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: Re:Sommsfest'96 On Aug 5, 3:24pm, JAime Gonzalez wrote: > Subject: Re:Sommsfest'96 > We could entertain them,make them laugh,by bringing our Guitars and > Amps,rent a Drum kit. > play Soundgarden songs we all know.Somebody will have to sing,but not me. > Gonzo > Jaime Gonzalez sometimes i can hit the Chris notes. hehehe.... - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "So I take what is mine,and hold what is mine, suffocate what is mine, and bury what's mine. Soon the water will come and claim what is mine. I must leave it behind, and climb to a new place now." -"Flood", TOOL ------------------------------ From: Eliza J Polly Subject: RE: Shirts and uh... more shirts Mo- Go to www.cdnow.com then do a search for Soundgarden - they have t-shirts listed on the bottom and most have a picture of the shirt. I am sure they send internationally, but the postage might suck. Yeah, the kickstand shirt is not so hot. Eliza - ---------- From: Mo Sent: Monday, August 05, 1996 7:58 PM To: "'somms@mit.edu'" Subject: Shirts and uh... more shirts Look, I'm pretty much new to the list, what's the story with these SG shirts? and is it possible for me to order any? (Me living in Ireland and all...) I'm willing to pay post and crap like that. I'd kill for a few SG shirts... all the ones they have over here are crap. Mo. ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: Burden single Hey all... I was just looking through the newest issue of Goldmine when I came across this... Burden in my hand... b/w Karaoke and Bleed Together due out 7/30 I thought that the release date was AUG. 13 th.. and is Bleed Together a cover or what??? Listen to the Frogs!!! Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Another (not as good) Gorge Review Bonnie wrote: >>Subject: Another (not as good) Gorge Review >>Well, after reading Caryn, Aaron and Ryland's reviews...they said it ALL about the performance and beyond...I won't even try to add. =20 >>Okay, I lied, but it just won't be a as good as theirs, so you don't have to read on. All I can add is my personal experience of it all. (It turned out to be long, sorry for the ramblings...) Bonnie, yours WAS as good as the others. I think I forgot to mention = Ryland's review - that was great too! :-) =20 {I hadn't yet read that one when I commented on Caryn's & Aaron's last = week.} So, it seems not only was the Lolla Gorge concert the best one, with the = best performance by Soundgarden, and the best-behaved crowd, it also had = the best reviews!! Well done, guys..... >>For one song, Chris also said, "This next song, which we recorded for Superunknown, is on the MOM benefit record, ." =20 Which SG song is on that record? I haven't yet had a chance to check it = out yet - I'll probably buy it when I do. A few Aussie bands even make = it on there! Does anyone on the list have it yet? What's the Sprung = Monkey song like?? (like those guys) >>We did stay for Metallica (the only reason our friends were there). = I had seen them in 89 or 90. Only knew a couple of their songs then and a few more now. I must say, aside from those of their asshole fans, they put on a great show as well. I did stay in place with the binocs and they did a good job............ Thanks for that, Bonnie. It seems the general consensus of the Sommsers = for the whole Lolla experience is that Metallica are good performers. = I've only seen one review that disagreed with that - and then of course = there were some of you who didn't stay to see them at all. >>I'm really sorry I didn't meet Aaron (coulda used the list hug to get to the front!) and Ryland; if that was you, thanks for the sprays! Caryn and Chris, my place was next to you guys. I shoulda rode with you!!!!!=20 Yeah, that was a downer, the four of you not able to meet up. So near = and yet so far!! About the BIMH video: >>And I remember Dena's first post about that guy who killed his girlfriend and buried her in the sand and wow, watching that video really makes you wonder... Dena, can you please recap that post? I must've missed it. Was there = in actual fact a guy who killed his girlfriend?? =20 Well, that's it for my comments/questions. I'm actually off to a = concert tomorrow night myself, to see The Presidents...... Yahoo! :-) = Looking forward to that one.......... Carolyn the Mocking & Forthright Thinking like that - you won't make any friends.....Therapy? ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (Lee Christensen) Subject: Re: Sommsfest 96 >>I have the solution to our private concert problem. Let's have a Somms >>convention!!!! Picture this Sommsters from all over the world coming >>together at a Holiday Inn(OK I guess the first one will have to be on >>Seth's stomping grounds). We could have the BIG SOUNDGARDEN SWAP MEET. >>Everyone bring their SG stuff to show off, trade and fight over. Maybe even >>trade a hunky hubby or two. Soundgarden look alike contests. Pageant for >>"Hootchie of the Year". Ben's spitting contest(who can spit furthest and >>most accurate) Essay writing on a variety of subjects in one hundred words >>or less: Why Kim should go free. Why I want to have Chris's baby >>Why Matt should bring back drum solos. A contest of Name that >>Soundgarden tune( I can name that song in three notes!) A tee shirt making >>workshop. Another workshop in IRC for us in the computer knucklehead >>catagory. The possiblities are endless! And for the finale a private >>Soundgarden concert in the Holiday Inn lounge! toni Its a grand idea :) A date in the future needs to be picked tho, one that ppl can save money for/ apply for holidays / and just get prepared. And as someone suggested a date that coincides with a tour date would be perfect. Tho who is going to pay for us overseas sommsters to make it over?? :) Ah maybe we can all have your own little somms festivals in each country :) Then the overall winner from each country can be fly over and vist the heart of sommsland. But the again if SG doing the private somms gig, I think I would be coming over quick smart :) Me: Quick I gotta sell my puter, my car, my life - Parents: Why? Me: Soundgarden are doing a somms show!! :) Parents: and you think this is good? seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "YAY or NAY" by Sarbiem, another Bris band kicking butt ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: chris's voice problems Speedy recovery Chris! i'm hoping he gets better as soon as possible because i'd really hate to see him lose his talent and not be able to create beautiful music any longer. i'd hate to lose the things that i love to do. so i'm pulling hard for him here, and i know all of SOMMS is too. get well soon! endless nameless ____ the lives we make never seem to ever get us anywhere but dead... - --chris cornell "the day i tried to live" ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: a thousand years that aren't mine... On Sat, 3 Aug 1996, Vasant Ramamurthy wrote: > thread discussing who is a better guitarist, Mike McCready or Kim Thayil. > Kim was pretty much winning the votes. But a few said McCready is better. > Their arguments were that McCready has superior composition abilities, > Thayil doesn't write much, Cornell is the main man, and other various crap. my vote (along with your's vasant) has to go with kim. I personally like kim's feel more than I like mike's. I know some people on this list don't like mike's work on temple of the dog, but I really don't mind what he did. it seemed to fit the mood of the album pretty well. mike has also done some nice stuff with mad season and his mostly fulltime band pearl jam, not to mention the fact that I can be fairly partial to blues music (something which mike knows his way around). having said that, I still think that kim has the goods on mike. besides being in my favourite band, kim seems to me to be better at most things. he has a decided advantage in his ability to crunch out huge riffs. I also think his tone is way better (check room a 1000 years wide and mailman for future reference). and until superunknown, I would have said that mike was the better soloist, but since kim kicked my ass with like suicide, tighter and tighter, and his lead break from time of the preacher (twisted willie), I have to say that kim is now the more accomplished of the two. plus, after you consider his (imho) superior song-writing ability and his much cooler facial hair, you have to give him the silver medal (jerry cantrell only just pipped him at the post). ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Mo Subject: Shirts and uh... more shirts Look, I'm pretty much new to the list, what's the story with these SG shirts? and is it possible for me to order any? (Me living in Ireland and all...) I'm willing to pay post and crap like that. I'd kill for a few SG shirts... all the ones they have over here are crap. Mo. ------------------------------ From: Mo Subject: Er... any charitable people out there? Um... anyone got a spare copy of SOMMS they want to post to me? I'm sure as hell I won't be able to get one over here... Mo. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 206] ****************************************