From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 27 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 04:35:19 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 27 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: live burden Irc Watch out, Susan! Beating this horse sg at the olympics The Dead Horseman is about to ride into the Apocolypse. burden single? The cost of fame? Nudeswirl irc, songs, whatever else i feel like putting on Re: Waiting For The Sun mirc Re: Good ole Boy Mentality Influences Waiting For The Sun Re: i am a mindless sheep... Re: binoculars permitted at the gorge? Burden single This is the last time.... Re: Influences, Re: This is the last time.... Re: The cost of fame? Re: TX Lolla!!! Re: The cost of fame? Re: live burden Re: Waiting For The Sun Re: The cost of fame? Re: burden single? Quote of the Week #6 winner Re: burden single? Re: This is the last time.... TX Lolla cntd... Re: sg at the olympics quote of the week Shirts and such Re: java Re: songs Re: Shirts and such - rolling in the mud irc (once again) #somms ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: Re: live burden Any chance this is just the BiMH from SNL? On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > has anyone else heard the live version on BIMH from some new york > concert? it rules. z rock has been playing it, or at least played it > once, i heard it. > ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Irc I am at #somms right now, and will be there for a while, and I'm all alone. Hello-o-o-o-o???? ------------------------------ From: Candy Haun Subject: Watch out, Susan! > Chris announced "This next song is for all the red > haired devils in Texas!! OK, Shroom, you'd better be watching your back, cause Susan is really going to be after you now! First you call Rockline and tell her husband that you love him, and now he's dedicated a song to you. I think your plan to snare Chris is starting to work! Candy ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: Beating this horse It sucks that kim has to deal with court, etc. But, we really can't make a reasonable decision about the incident because we weren't there. It could be that kim was pissed about his room getting burgled and took out his aggression on the drunk bitch. I'm not saying Heather Brainless is blameless. I'm just saying that neither is Kim (blameless, that is, not brainless) All we have are some vague reports and a statement from pr people. Not that our discussion greatly affects the outcome of the actual events, I'm just trying to diffuse some aggression. -- Ben p.s. everyone congratulate me on purchasing a modem. (been bummin' my mom's) I got a teleport platinum. anyone know if it was a good/bad buy? Ben Timberlake I'm getting off Northwestern University this Merry-Go-Round! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: sg at the olympics I was perusing Newsweek last week. It had a section spotlighting some gold medal hopefuls from the U.S. Anyway, cyclist Lance Armstrong enjoys rock music including Soundgarden, it said, but never while training. Too bad, I would think Soundgarden would be fantastic cycling music. -- Ben p.s. sorry if this has already been posted, I missed a few days last week. Ben Timberlake I'm getting off Northwestern University this Merry-Go-Round! Medill School of Journalism btimlake@aol.com -30- http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "I didn't create this situation, I'm dealing with it." -Steve Buscemi "Reservoir Dogs" ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: The Dead Horseman is about to ride into the Apocolypse. Heheh, Damn A/C! I keep kicking it and it still doesn't work! Okay, all this talk about the bitch that framed Kim is really pissing me off. I'm about to go kick some ass. I wanna go out to Charlotte and sit in front of her house with a megaphone and shout obscene statements at her! But Lolla is next week, so I have to stay put. Heather the Brainless is the exact reason why stupid people shouldn't breed. Ignorance breeds ignorance, I say. Maybe she would understand a mailbomb or two. Heheh, :::evil grin:::: it's too damn hot! I mean, who in the hell does she think she is? That lowlife scoundrel. She isn't fit to lick Kim's boots, let alone be slapped by his ever so talented hands. She should feel so low, so worthless. I think a move to Siberia is in order for her. If she presses charges, there is no telling what I might do? I may go completely insane, and make Heather Mifflin voodoo dolls for the whole list, and we can simultaneously gouge out her eyes! Yeah, yyeeaahhh. Member of the Kim's Mercenary Squad and still the list thug, Aaron "Aaron, make me a BIG Heather Mifflin voodoo doll, and bring me TWO needles! Then, beat anyone who takes my picture to a bloody shit!"-Kim (you know, the usual disclaimer crap, but he will say it someday!) ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Raul Agrait) Subject: burden single? has there been any news on a burden in my hand single?? Im really hoping for it to come out and maybe have karaoke or christi as b-sides. Anyone hear anything about a new single? - -Raul ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: The cost of fame? I've been feeling really sad about the problems Soundgarden seems to be having at the lolla shows. I was so glad to read Shroom's post because the Soundgarden show she described sounded more like the Soundgarden I remember (91-92 shows). The post that bothered me the most was one that described Chris as practically staggering drunk on stage. This, to me, is not a pretty picture and really concerned me. Every time I've seen Soundgarden Chris has presented himself as majestic, proud almost to the point of arrogance, and totally in control. It frightens me to think of him losing that (shades of the late Jim Morrison in his alcohol-bloated morose days). I hope that show was an exception rather than a sign of things to come. Does anyone know how the guys in Metallica are personality-wise? Could there be clashes going on there? It seems that there is more going on here than being disappointed with the lolla crowds. Personally I can't wait until this tour is over - I think our guys need a break. And my .02 on the Kim Thayil incident: I think it is terrible that supposed fans would disrespect him so much. Some people seem to forget that celebrities have bad days, too. I feel so bad that his hotel room was broken into and although I don't condone hitting people just because you're in a bad mood I can see that this combined with the other stresses of touring could make someone do something out of character. I agree with whoever wrote that he was probably just swatting at the camera and accidently hit the woman. Even on a bad day I just can't picture Kim deliberately doing that. I also agree that his "rock star" status was more of a factor in his arrest than his ethnicity. When I lived across the river from Cincinnati the Grateful Dead played there and you would have thought the devil himself were coming to Cincinnati. They actually had warnings in the newspapers for parents so they could "protect" their children from the evil. It was unbelievable. Kathie PS: Still haven't gotten my shirt. I agree with Caryn that this is really ridiculous. Nothingman has all the money (supposedly) so why can't he just mail a bunch of shirts at once? ------------------------------ From: Stardog Subject: Nudeswirl Hello again. what happen with nudeswirl?? anybody knows about new releases? ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: irc, songs, whatever else i feel like putting on very upset to have missed lolla... damn neighbors... i'd like to join in on the t-shirts... seth, if you don't send those = to the band are they up as extras?? (sent them anyway) i'll probably = make my own.. i got pretty good at making them, permanent markers work = wonders on white i'm pretty ignorannt about irc's, do you need a seperate program like = w/ MUD's??? (anyone on addictMUD?) i was dissapointed with the soundgarden boots at the local boot store, = they have two ocations so i'll check the other.. I like the idea of the = big sign saying free kim thayil, i think it'd be pretty funny, but you = never can tell... grey diamond desert- it won't change ps has it ever been confirmed that sg will do a US tour? if so any ideas = if they will be heading near the gulf coast, pj's not coming this year = to NO and i am very upset, i'd finally be able to go and they don't = come!!! infinite ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re: Waiting For The Sun Well, in Atlanta they played it. Compared to the rest of the set, this song was OK (Not Ultramega OK, though ;} ). The verses were slow and built into the chorus where Cornell bellowed '!!Waiting For the Sun!!'. It seemed to drag on a little to me, though. I kinda wish theyd've played a TOD song... Wooden Jesus, maybe. Shroom, looks like you have Cornell falling, like rain, into your scheme. Later, Taylor ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Waiting For The Sun Author: "Castino, Alex" at Internet Date: 7/26/96 9:43 AM Hello.... This is my first time writing to this list....I've been reading the digests for a few days and find myself real interested in various set lists from around the tour (even if they are for the most part, similiar). Anyway...I live in New Jersey and work in New York. I skipped the 2 Lolla shows here in New York for many reasons....the main ones being what I heard about the extremely short sets they were doing at Lolla (1 hour).....when I saw them at Lolla 92....they played longer than that....let alone the 2 hours they do on their own....(and I'm sure they're coming back to NY) .anyway....reason number two is my extreme dissapointment in what has become of Metallica....but that's another story......OK...let me get to the point.....I see that SG has been doing a cover of Waiting For The Sun (Doors).....can someone let me know about how they are pulling it off......do they do the whole song.....or just a few verses?.....and what is everyone's over all feeling about the way it sounded......i picture it being Black Hole Sun-esque.......what's up/...........................HEAD INJURY.. ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: mirc ok i got the irc program after some trying... is there specific = directions to #somms? i got onto the undernet.org thing and put in = #somms and got into A channel but is this really the somms channel? i = was going through pheonix or something... any ideas?? ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re: Good ole Boy Mentality Although I love the South, I must agree with DeeDee's observations. I especially like the part about Rockingham trying to dissuade the concert and the overzealous security precautions. That's just typical. I live in Greenville, SC which, for the most part, is progressive. However, It seems that this part of the country is stuck in the freakin mid 80's. The only rock radio station we have around here constantly plays a pukeworthy rotation of Skynyrd, Boston, Kansas, etc... It baffles me sometimes. I wonder if, instead of Kim, it was some country singer involved in this situation... Would it be the same?? Later, Taylor ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Good ole Boy Mentality Author: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu at Internet Date: 7/25/96 8:52 PM Yes, people, racism is alive and well in the south and NC is no exception. I have lived here half my life and it never ceases to amaze me how bigoted people here can be. The bigger towns are more progressive, especially those where there are universities, ie UNC, NCSU and Duke...Rockingham NC can only boast being the proud home of the speedway and dragway. If you were to follow the coming of lollapolooza to NC in the papers you would know that Rockingham faught tooth and nail to keep the show from invading their quaint little town. They were convinced that the freaks of the show would bring drugs and the like into their town corrupting all that were exposed. Security at the show was ridiculous: two helicopters circled the entire time, event security was in every nook and cranny, sherrifs, state troopers, and city cops were on towers with binoculars waiting to pounce. I wont conclusively state that KT was arrested because he is of ethnic origin but I will say that the fact that he is a long haired, bearded, 'rock star' in a town where long haired, bearded rock stars are not wanted most likely played a major role in his arrest. And his origin certainly didnt hurt. Rockingham is a little town. The likes to lolla turned that town on it's collective ass. Any excuse to arrest a part of the show just added fuel to their already preconceived notions about the show and the type of people the show attracted. just my .02 ...flame on... DeeDee Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Influences Hey, Chris has listed in his influences Bauhaus and, either Kim or Chris, have expressed the '70's involved "waiting for the next Hawkwind album". I think Bauhaus are o.k. and my roommate has alot of their vinyl, but I have never heard any Hawkwind. Anyone out there want to enlighten me? Would I want to buy an album of theirs? If so, which? Btw, check out the new lyrics to guess at. I give up on the old ones, no one will get them. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Wine from the blade on the night of the full moon Voices that call spirits in waiting Sharing the drink of the bond A broth of roots and charms Spells under a twisted tree" And for bonus points: "You laid all your lillies on the grave Of all the lonely Soldiers left battle torn You cut their pride on your concertina" ------------------------------ From: "Castino, Alex" Subject: Waiting For The Sun Hello.... This is my first time writing to this list....I've been reading the digests for a few days and find myself real interested in various set lists from around the tour (even if they are for the most part, similiar). Anyway...I live in New Jersey and work in New York. I skipped the 2 Lolla shows here in New York for many reasons....the main ones being what I heard about the extremely short sets they were doing at Lolla (1 hour).....when I saw them at Lolla 92....they played longer than that....let alone the 2 hours they do on their own....(and I'm sure they're coming back to NY) .anyway....reason number two is my extreme dissapointment in what has become of Metallica....but that's another story......OK...let me get to the point.....I see that SG has been doing a cover of Waiting For The Sun (Doors).....can someone let me know about how they are pulling it off......do they do the whole song.....or just a few verses?.....and what is everyone's over all feeling about the way it sounded......i picture it being Black Hole Sun-esque.......what's up/...........................HEAD INJURY.. ------------------------------ From: Greg Fox Subject: Re: i am a mindless sheep... Grote, your haiku's were the best yet, I love 'em. #shirtless chris cornell #not a sex symbol, he maintains #nice hooters, chris This one just made me laugh. I got lots of sstrange looks from co-workers. #our heather mifflin #drunken floozy, disrespectful advance #free kim thayil ** Oh so true, very nicely put. #melancholy ben #cursing, destroying, fuck you all #die, rednecks, die More laughing, and more strange looks. #web page supreme #listers with brains and time to kill #seth kicks big ass Seth is the ultimate web master, and this Haiku pays homage to the great one! Later All. Greg ------------------------------ From: crose@intermind.com (Caryn Rose) Subject: Re: binoculars permitted at the gorge? Gorge show attendees! I wrote to the promoter and asked about binoculars at the Gorge: >Return-Path: >Date: Fri, 26 Jul 1996 11:16:08 -0800 >From: Creighton Burke >Reply-To: mca@isomedia.com >Organization: The Gorge / MCA Concerts >To: crose@intermind.com >Subject: Re: binoculars permitted at the gorge? >References: <31F807B7.CA4@intermind.com> > >Dear Caryn: > >YES!!! Bring those small field glasses there will be lots to look at. > >Thanks for asking! so we're cool. thanks to whoever it was that mentioned the problem at the earlier show... it would suck to walk all the way back to the *&^% car at the Gorge.... ------------------------------ Subject: Burden single From: seth Okay, as far as I can tell, "Burden In My Hand" will be released as a CD single in the UK on August 13. Much like "Pretty Noose," there will be two versions of the single, though I don't know yet what the track lists are. A limited edition color 7" will be released on the same day. I haven't heard anything about a US release. seth ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: This is the last time.... I sware to all of you, this is the last time I'm going to ask this question, and I'd like an answer. Is it too late to get a t-shirt???? I need to know before I drive myself insane!!!! "Let's just leave this place, and go to summerland" The original preety noose ------------------------------ From: cynsir@village.ios.com Subject: Re: Influences, I read in Chris' bio on the Unofficial (REAL) SG Homepage a big influence was Killing Joke's eponymous debut circa 1980 as an example that he could mix metal w/"new-wave". KJ is a post-punk UK band, and a band I've been into for years! It's so cool that Chris loves 'em too. 17 yrs after they formed they're back in original form. "Pandemonium" was nearly a masterpiece (1994): many ppl mistake it for Metallica (like Howard Stern). "Democracy" (1996) is good, but not on the level of "Pandemonium". I still love their debut album best (Yes, I own 2 VINYL copies). OPERATION VINYL RESCUE will be occurring this weekend in Manhattan, Yonkers, and maybe the Bronx too, between KISS shows. Anyway, check out KILLING JOKE. LOUDLY, Cyn xo BTW, I've decided to model my so-called-life most recently after Susan Silver. After, she's nailing CC! I'm managing a NYC based band The BAGHDADDIOS and any SOMMSters with college radio ties or music reviewers PLEEZE email me privately & I'll send u a CD & press release. We need airplay. And I'll let y'all know 'bout upcoming gigs. THANX peoples, and I love you, man. Mayor McCheese wrote: > > Hey, > > Chris has listed in his influences Bauhaus and, either Kim or > Chris, have expressed the '70's involved "waiting for the next Hawkwind > album". I think Bauhaus are o.k. and my roommate has alot of their vinyl, > but I have never heard any Hawkwind. Anyone out there want to enlighten > me? Would I want to buy an album of theirs? If so, which? > > Btw, check out the new lyrics to guess at. I give up on the old > ones, no one will get them. > > Mayor McCheese > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** > Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist > And I'll tell you your cool or something > > "Wine from the blade on the night of the full moon > Voices that call spirits in waiting > Sharing the drink of the bond > A broth of roots and charms > Spells under a twisted tree" > > And for bonus points: > > "You laid all your lillies on the grave > Of all the lonely Soldiers left battle torn > You cut their pride on your concertina" ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: This is the last time.... didn't seth answer this question???? the tshirts suck, and are late, and you still want one? hell, i'll probably sell you mine if they're as bad as seth says. On Fri, 26 Jul 1996 Moonsta693@aol.com wrote: > I sware to all of you, this is the last time I'm going to ask this question, > and I'd like an answer. Is it too late to get a t-shirt???? I need to know > before I drive myself insane!!!! > > > > "Let's just leave this place, and go to summerland" > > The original preety noose > ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: Re: The cost of fame? At 02:23 PM 7/26/96 +0000, oponfam@cnsnet.com wrote: >I've been feeling really sad about the problems Soundgarden seems to >be having at the lolla shows. I was so glad to read Shroom's post >because the Soundgarden show she described sounded more like the >Soundgarden I remember (91-92 shows). > > The post that bothered me the most was one that described Chris as >practically staggering drunk on stage. This, to me, is not a pretty >picture and really concerned me. Every time I've seen Soundgarden >Chris has presented himself as majestic, proud almost to the point of >arrogance, and totally in control. It frightens me to think of him >losing that (shades of the late Jim Morrison in his alcohol-bloated >morose days). I hope that show was an exception rather than a sign of >things to come. > I don't have a lot of Soundgarden live experience, but I was under the impression that it wasn't that uncommon for them to show up for, or get drunk at, their early club gigs. Maybe the cost of fame is that everyone expects you to stay sober when you get famous. :) Nate ------------------------------ Subject: Re: TX Lolla!!! From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Jul 26, 1996 02:27:44, 'ShRooMGrLz@aol.com' wrote: >Details of my adventure getting backstage at Lolla, and how when I got >there... I couldn't find the damned band. Sheeeeeeeewwwww! I sure am glad our red-haired Texas somms devil didn't get arrested. I only have one "get out of jail free" card and I sent that to Kim. toni ------------------------------ Subject: Re: The cost of fame? From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Jul 26, 1996 14:23:46, 'oponfam@cnsnet.com' wrote: >The post that bothered me the most was one that described Chris as >practically staggering drunk on stage. This, to me, is not a pretty >picture and really concerned me. I didn't get the feeling that Chris was drunk in Atlanta. He seemed in great control of his voice. I never saw any pronounced staggering and I had a good view of him the entire show. Yes, he did make the comment about the gold medal in vodka drinking and another reference to vodka before drinking out of a plastic cup. It seems that Chris always makes comments about alcohol. In that interview with Metal Hammer(7-96) he says when asked about the most outrageous thing he did "whatever memory I have of it, I might have drunk it away between now and than" or another question the end of the answer is; "me and Scotch are friends again" I don't know whether it's an issue or not. But both shows I saw him at this summer he did not appear to be unable to perform or even affected by alcohol from my point of hearing and vision. toni ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: live burden On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Eric Gardner wrote: > > Any chance this is just the BiMH from SNL? > > > On Thu, 25 Jul 1996, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > > > has anyone else heard the live version on BIMH from some new york > > concert? it rules. z rock has been playing it, or at least played it > > once, i heard it. > > > > it could be, but i only saw that saturday night live performance the one time, and long ago, so i don't remember it to compare. i do remember really liking the version from snl though, so it is possible that it was the same recording. are they allowed to do that though? wouldn't they have to pay snl or something? ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: Waiting For The Sun On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, Castino, Alex wrote: > > Hello.... > > This is my first time writing to this list....I've been reading the > digests for a few days and find myself real interested in various set lists > from around the tour (even if they are for the most part, similiar). > Anyway...I live in New Jersey and work in New York. I skipped the 2 Lolla > shows here in New York for many reasons....the main ones being what I heard > about the extremely short sets they were doing at Lolla (1 hour).....when I > saw them at Lolla 92....they played longer than that....let alone the 2 > hours they do on their own....(and I'm sure they're coming back to NY) > .anyway....reason number two is my extreme dissapointment in what has become > of Metallica....but that's another story......OK...let me get to the > point.....I see that SG has been doing a cover of Waiting For The Sun > (Doors).....can someone let me know about how they are pulling it > off......do they do the whole song.....or just a few verses?.....and what is > everyone's over all feeling about the way it sounded......i picture it being > Black Hole Sun-esque.......what's up/...........................HEAD > INJURY.. > it was really heavy, not black hole sunish, but more fourth of july-ish, or maybe mailman-ish. big heavy bass, lots of chors, and they sped it up quite a bit. of course, the vocals are much more impressive in range and cornellism. it was somewhat difficult to recognize the song without them saying what it was, but the lyrics were the same, and the instrumentation was similar enough to make it recognizable. ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re: The cost of fame? Kathy wrote: 'The post that bothered me the most was one that described Chris as practically staggering drunk on stage. This, to me, is not a pretty picture and really concerned me. Every time I've seen Soundgarden Chris has presented himself as majestic, proud almost to the point of arrogance, and totally in control.' mmm...Hope you were'nt referring to my post. If so, I may have given the wrong impression. Cornell was still very much in control in Atlanta. To me it looked like he was having a great time and in a good mood. I wouldn't group him with Morrison just yet. Well, I'm about to go home, load the CD changer with all SG Cd's, crack a brew, and disturb my neighbors... Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: SOMMS@aol.com Subject: Re: burden single? Raul and Listers, I saw a couple Burden singles for sale ($7 ??) online at the Intergalactic Garage (sorry, don't have the URL handy. I just did CD VINYL STORE on Infoseek), can't tell you what's on it though. And I didn't hang around long enough for Customer Service to get to me. They also had something called Burden In My Mind.... Typo? Interview? Anyone?? ~Flutter~ ------------------------------ From: SOMMS@aol.com Subject: Quote of the Week Can I nominate Taylor for Quote of the Week? Damn, what did he say again? Oh yeah, "I think Cornell's falling like rain into her scheme." Speaking about our beloved Shroom of course :) ~Flutter~ ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: #6 winner is Aaron/thnrthface from Washington state. The Alberta streak has been broken. Well, I don't really think twice in a row counts as much of a streak, but what the hell... There were 17 entrants this time, too many more and I'll be getting writer's cramp. Time to start printing the names out, I guess. Eric ------------------------------ Subject: Re: burden single? From: seth > I saw a couple Burden singles for sale ($7 ??) online at the Intergalactic > Garage (sorry, don't have the URL handy. I just did CD VINYL STORE on > Infoseek), can't tell you what's on it though. And I didn't hang around long > enough for Customer Service to get to me. They also had something called > Burden In My Mind.... Typo? Interview? Anyone?? Intergalactic Garage is at http://www.intrepid.net/igg/ -- the latest additions to their Soundgarden catalog, with typos, are: SOUNDGARDEN BURDEN IN MY HEAD CV 7 (UK) 8/13 [$4.99] 3.99 Very limited coloured vinyl 7" in PVC sleeve SOUNDGARDEN BURDEN IN MY HEAD #1 CD-5 (UK) 8/13 [$10] 8.99 SOUNDGARDEN BURDEN IN MY HEAD #2 CD-5 (UK) 8/13 [$10] 8.99 The price at the far right is what you pay (in US dollars) if you order before the 8/13 release date. The price in brackets is what you pay if you order after the release date. IGG also carries a bunch of other Soundgarden stuff: SOUNDGARDEN Screaming Life EP CV (US) 12" 10.00 SOUNDGARDEN Fell On Black Days EP PD 7 (UK) 7" 6.99 SOUNDGARDEN Jesus Christ Pose / Stray Cat Blues PD 7" 10.00 SOUNDGARDEN Spoonman / Fresh Tendrils PD 7 (UK) 7" 10.00 SOUNDGARDEN Fell On Black Days CD-5 #1 CD 10.00 SOUNDGARDEN Fell On Black Days CD-5 #2 CD 10.00 SOUNDGARDEN Rusty Cage #1 3-trk PD CD 10.00 SOUNDGARDEN My Wave 4-track PC CD 12.50 SOUNDGARDEN Spoonman/Cold Bitch PC CD 10.00 And they have some stuff in their special-order CD catalog, too, like Superunknown with "She Likes Surprises," etc. I'm not affiliated with IGG in any way, but I've ordered from them before and always gotten my stuff promptly. I got DOTU on clear vinyl all three "Pretty Noose" singles (2 CDs and the 7"), and some picture 7"s with no problems. seth PS - That's *not* Screaming Life on orange vinyl for $10. It's on some other color; Sub Pop reissued quite a few. Mine's on swirly pink vinyl. ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Re: This is the last time.... On Fri, 26 Jul 1996, caryn rose wrote: > > didn't seth answer this question???? the tshirts suck, and are late, and > you still want one? > > hell, i'll probably sell you mine if they're as bad as seth says. > How much money did you all give to Nothingman for these T-shirts? - -Vince Varkey ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: TX Lolla cntd... Ok... more about Chris' sexy body... it was AWESOME!!!! I absolutely LOVE the way he moves. His walk is so... amazing. The way he holds his guitar... mmmmm... yummy. I did manage to make eye contact with Chris for a second at the beginning of the show. I was getting squished in the pit (something I usually enjoy)... but I couldn't watch the band very well. So I had the security pull me over the barricades, and I walked straight up to the front of the stage... right up to Chris, not ten feet away. He was standing there singing... and he looked down, we made eye contact for a second, and then he looked back up at the audience. I was stunned. Then I walked off. It was SO AMAZING!!! And then of course later, he dedicated that song to ME!!! MEMEMEMEME!!! Well, ok... maybe it wasn't to ME... but then again, maybe it WAS. Heheheh... if it wasn't, that was sure a groovy coincidence, huh?!? "This next song is dedicated to all the red haired devils in Texas." MEMEMEME!!! Heheheh... At the beginning of the show, just before SG took the stage... Erin and I were almost KILLED by the redneck Metallica fans. They started this HUGE water bottle and pizza plate riot. Can you imagine getting hit with fifty million water bottles from all sides AT ONCE?!? Everyone was screaming, whether with delight or terror. Texas sucks. Ok... I DID manage to sneak backstage (and I have the lacerations to prove it, damn barb wire fences), but by the time I did get back there, SG was gone. I wandered around for a little bit... but nothing was REALLY interesting. It was a blast sneaking around, and dodging security, though. Damn me... if only I'd gotten back there a little bit sooner!! Oh well... next time I'll find them. They will be mine... oh yes... they WILL be mine..." (Cheesy Wayne's World impersonations). Shroom "Hey Shroom, wanna play 'Spank the Bad Rock Star' again?" ~ Chris Cornell "Wow... it sure is humid here in Texas. I'm SO hot and sweaty... guess I'll take a shower. Hey Shroomy... wash my back for me?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: Re: sg at the olympics On Fri, 26 Jul 1996 BTimLake@aol.com wrote: > rock music including Soundgarden, it said, but never while training. Too > bad, I would think Soundgarden would be fantastic cycling music. > -- Ben It does. I can attest to this. Though I am not even close to being a Lance Armstrong, just a portly bike commuter, SG propels me to work and back 3 days a week. The 17 mile trip takes an hour w/ SG, 2 hours w/o SG. Once I tried to make it while listening to a local alterno-schlock radio station and I wound up naked in a railroad yard, w/o my bike, screaming the words to Big Dumb Sex at a dried cowpie I was carrying around. Best SG cycling tunes (currently) Nothing to Say - I have yet to hear the entire song and remember it. About 30 seconds into it, I go into a trance which lasts a few miles, until the songs ends, and I come out of it feeling like I just had a shot of B-12. Gun - Topping a hill and heading down the other side as the songs revs up is amazing. Indurain could have gone 5 straight in the Tour de France if he had tried this. JCP - Pure speed. Like Suicide - I ride home at night, and have a religious experience each time I hear this song, especially the solo and the Chaka Khan line that Chris repeats just before it. Tighter and Tighter - See above. "And I hope it's a sweet ride, here for me tonight." Eric ------------------------------ Subject: quote of the week From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > Once I tried to make it while listening to a local > alterno-schlock radio station and I wound up naked in a railroad > yard, w/o my bike, screaming the words to Big Dumb Sex at a dried > cowpie I was carrying around. > - Eric Long quote, but funny as hell.. This weeks best IMHO... Jamie ------------------------------ From: LAWNMOWER MAN Subject: Shirts and such On Friday or somewhere there about, you wrote: >Subject: The shirts - what the FUCK? >From: seth >The 'somms@mit.edu' graphic that is on the shirts is NOT the graphic >that I provided to Nothingman. I don't know what the fuck is going on >or where he got the authority to change the design without telling any >of us. It's written in some cheesy generic font, and quite frankly, >looks like shit. There's absolutely no excuse for this -- he's had >more than enough benefit of the doubt. >The contrast on the graphic on the back of the shirt is also terrible >- -- the text is all but unreadable on top of the fork. >I'm not sure if I'm going to send these to the band or not... >seth Let me just start out by saying this: You posted a note the other day on mailing list etiquette. That was pretty nice of you. And ever since I got on this list I have realized just how much the people on the list needed that. No one wants to read something five or six times, and no one needs to listen to some idiot spouting about something that he knows nothing about or flaming other people. That's counter-productive to the mailing list. Now, for the part of this message that you obviously need to hear. You have just turned yourself into a huge hypocrite. Not only have you flamed a member of the list for something that he worked hard to get accomplished, but you also jumped to conclusions...worse than all those people who jumped all over the Kim situation. RC knows next to nothing about computers. He couldn't change a font if you told him how to do it. "Who gave him the authority?" Yeah, just who does he think he is to take the files you gave him, put them on a disk, and take them to the shirt printer? The nerve. He even came to me to see if I had something he could see the files with before he took them to the printers because he was curious as to what they looked like. I had nothing, so he took them straight there. He should be ashamed. You are the list administrator. What are you thinking. The shirt looks pretty good. I don't know whether the tension of waiting, heaven forbid, more than two minutes for a shirt which was provided at a price much cheaper than anyone else could offer has you all upset or not, but I do know that regardless, you have no business voicing your anger to the entire list. You are going to get more people upset for nothing than ever would have happened. Not only that, but now you will hear 5 times the amount of complaining. Nice to know how much trouble you have caused yourself, isn't it? I personaly don't care how much you get mad at Nothingman. He might be my friend, but I would let him take the abuse if he deserved it. This goes beyond that, and I would be critical even if he was my worst enemy. Poor form, Seth, poor form. Next time, why don't you try making the shirts yourself. At least that way you can blame yourself, and you may find that a little harder than blaming someone else. I would like you to unsubscribe me from the list. There is no point in me staying on if even the list administrator can't keep himself from rolling in the mud with the members with the least list respect. I won't be missed....I have been here less than two weeks and my posts have caused nothing but unrest, though meant to be helpful. Still a Soundgarden fan, Chris ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: java At 12:04 PM 7/25/96 +0000, "stella" wrote: >You need win95 and a java browser like netscape 2. i think microsoft >explorer 3.0 works too. WHAT?! Win 95?!?! ARRGH!!! Screw Win 95! I'm perfectly happy with 3.1! I just need the damn wordsearch! Why can't Java work with 3.1?!?! ARRGH! The Anti-Win 95 Guitarist ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: Re: songs At 10:22 PM 7/25/96 +0000, infinite wrote: >I was just reading some mail from awhile ago that i deleted w/o reading.... in it somebody was talking about blow up the outside world being the next black hole sun or soundgarden's black. Just thought i'd throw in that i don't like BUTOW....(that's ugly lookin isn't) it's my most skipped song on down on the upside... it just doesn't sound right to me... oh welll > "Soundgarden's black"? Well, the fact that the abbreviation is a little wacky aside, that's my favorite song on DOTU . . . even beyond (is it possible?) Burden in My Hand! . . . so the song still has hope . . . whatever that means . . . arrgh, I'm too tired to do any logical typing! (so if any of this either doesn't make sense, or presents me as a target for flaming, please just ignore it and pretend I didn't write it and let's all go on to live our merry lives merrily and be merry) Does anybody else notice the ever-so-small-yet-existent similarity between BUTOW (I beg your pardon?) and TDITTL . . . ? Or am I alone again? ...sigh... buy the way, I don't really think BHS should be the standard for judging SG songs . . . oh well . . . I'll just continue rambling on about nonsense in my next E-mail . . . The Guitarist - Posting with BOTH eyes closed . . . ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Shirts and such - rolling in the mud From: seth You give no evidence of my being a hypocrite. If you look at the two points I made about list etiquette, neither of them have anything to do with my bitching about the shirts. Nobody else said the shirts look terrible, so I'm not guilty of repeating what's already been said, and I've heard no explanation from Nothingman, so I can flame whoever I want. You said: "Yeah, just who does he think he is to take the files you gave him, put them on a disk, and take them to the shirt printer? The nerve." This was exactly my point. Had he done that, I would have no reason to be pissed. Unfortunately, he did not. Nobody had to actually choose a font and type out "somms@mit.edu" -- the text was saved as an image, the same way as the image for the back of the shirt was saved, so I would love to know how that file somehow didn't make it all the way to the printer. If we were talking about a Word document or something, where the output was dependent on the printer having the same fonts that I have, I could understand, but it was an image. It looks the same on every computer everywhere. Furthermore, I notice that you copied your message to Nothingman. I remember you saying something about his not being able to afford his Internet access, so why are you bothering to email him? If he truly can afford his Internet access, I want to hear from him. Keep in mind that Nothingman was not the only person who offered to do the shirts, though he was convincing enough in his bid to do them that the job was reluctantly given to him. Keep in mind that the shirts were due *before* Lollapalooza started. Two minutes I could have waited; I wound up waiting more than a month, and considering I shelled out a large sum of money for 5 shirts, I have every right to complain that not only did my merchandise arrive late, it was not the merchandise for which I paid. Had I offered to do the shirts, you damn well better believe I would have had them out on time and produced exactly as expected, or I would have notified everyone who sent me money and given them the option of a full refund or continuing with another design -- I did not have the resources to get the shirts done right, so I didn't offer. I would have expected the same from Nothingman. Since he did not meet that expectation, I feel I have every right to blame him. Also, keep this in mind: if I wish to post a personal opinion to the list, I have as much right to do that as you do. My being the listadmin has nothing to do with it. I wouldn't be the goddamn listadmin if I didn't want to participate in the mailing list, and I don't see how you get to decide that I'm not allowed to voice my opinions on the off chance that someone might be offended. I don't work for some list maintenance company and though I've been called a side-taking automaton, I reserve the right to say whatever I please as long as it's relevant to Soundgarden. A Soundgarden fan and list member, seth ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Raul Agrait) Subject: irc (once again) ok when you people use irc and get on #somms what servers do you use?? someone please tell me, cuz all the servers i have dont work or are full. someone please answer me. me and lots other people have posted about this before. btw, dont go to #soundgarden if you do get to go on irc, ive been there and half the time it is filled by those "no I know other sg songs besides black hole sun..ummm 'fell on bad days' ha! told ya! and you think im a sg newbie! i love chris! (no offense shroom, not making fun of chris-obsessed ppl as long as they know their obsession) do you know his e-mail address?? is it really chris@superunkown.com???" you get my point. sorry if i offended anyone but im pissed at irc servers. - -Raul ------------------------------ From: pepin@earthlink.net (Mark Pepin) Subject: #somms i'm gonna b here 4 a while so if n e 1 wansta go i'll b there! ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 196] ****************************************