From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:58:38 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 23 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: NC lolla SG on MOM album NC lolla This just in... Good Times sg, metallica and kim in jail Life After Lolla..... Is John McEnroe on the list??? hey.. review, part one Re: It's time to take action against this outrage! nothing review, part 2 polling.. pretty noose t-shirt Beginning of Boot Camp Takin care of business... A couple of comments It's time to take action against this outrage! Re: A couple of comments RE: quotes Re: Good Times i take it back! story on kim from AP! I Got My Shirt!!! RE: Soundgarden's behaviour re Metallica fans........am I impressed?? Re: review, part 2 RE: SG oddbits... summer nights and long warm days... not back but maybe soundgarden haiku BIMH Video/Lolla Highlights-Lowlights more SG haiku No Molsen uh,heyyyyyyyyyyy....... overfloater "quote of the week" Re: It's time to take action against this outrage! =) Re: It's time to take action against this outrage! New Orleans Lolla ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Re: NC lolla damn, I always thought that Kim is always the one to keep his cool. its so suprising. sure it wasn't ben? > please say it aint so... > > i heard this on the radio..Kim Thayil spent 6 hours in jail here in NC > after the Rockingham show for punching someone in the crowd for taking > pictures?? > > anyone have any details on this? > > damn, sure hate having the distinction of being the state where Kim got > arrested during lolla.. srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: Malvol7@aol.com Subject: SG on MOM album Re: the benefit album 'Music for Our Mother Ocean"...with PJ, SG, Beastie Boys, Jewel, etc. interpreting classic surf songs... does anyone know which song SG is covering? ------------------------------ From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: NC lolla please say it aint so... i heard this on the radio..Kim Thayil spent 6 hours in jail here in NC after the Rockingham show for punching someone in the crowd for taking pictures?? anyone have any details on this? damn, sure hate having the distinction of being the state where Kim got arrested during lolla... Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: Nevin Kapur Subject: This just in... Driving to work today, I heard the following on the radio: Kim Thayil was arrested at the NC Lolla for *assaulting a fan*. He spent 6 hours in jail for it. Could the listers who were there (Jerm?) confirm this? I thought Ben was having the bad days.... - --YouknowyouareobsesseswithSoundgardenwhen you are ready to post bail for a band member.... - -Nevin. - -- Nevin Kapur (soon at http://www.cbl.ncsu.edu/~kapur) ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Good Times I Just Have to know . . . What if this had been one of us taking the pictures for the unofficial homepage?!?! Jesus Christ, with the 5 real fans I saw amongst the 30,000 Metallica fans, you think they'd be grateful for someone who loves 'em that much. Next time Kim, take out the guy throughing pizza trays and water bottles, not taking pictures of ya. The next somms headline will be "Caryn Rose at Seattle Lolla, *most* pictures are on the Unofficial Homepage, including one of Kim's fist close up!". On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: > i heard this on the radio..Kim Thayil spent 6 hours in jail here in NC > after the Rockingham show for punching someone in the crowd for taking > pictures?? Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Panic, all hell breaks loose A battered body screams abuse A plastic bullet ends his youth A motherless son turns and pukes" ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: sg, metallica and kim in jail first of all, before we jump to conclusions, we have no idea what transpired and why kim is in jail. i mean, someone could have been being an asshole to another fan, or kim could have stepped in to break up a fight, or who knows what. or yes, of course, he could ahve lost his temper. but until we hear from a reliable source, let's give the man the benefit of the doubt. as to carolyn's comments about ben's crowd taunting, i dunno. if they have been taking huge amounts of shit on an almost daily basis from a rude, disrespectful audience, i dunno. i'd get pissed off too. they're not superhuman... they are very human... and yes, they very much wanted to do this tour. i think they wanted to do it not realizing fully that the majority of the audience would be what they are. was this stupid? yes. could almost any one on this list have told them what they were in for? yes. however, i disagree with carolyn's comment that because the audience isn't 'idolising' them, they're going to act like a bunch of brats. well, i'm sorry to generalise here, but that's the only kind of behavior your average drunken mullethead is going to understand. and two, i don't think they want to be idolised; in fact, i think they'd enjoy the challenge of winning an audience over. but when it's an audience full of people who wanna do nothing more than fuck around during your set and throw shit at you, well, i'd lose my temper mighty quick. didn't someone say that someone threw a vinyl record on stage which splintered and hit matt in the face?? wanna bet that wasn't the first time on lolla that someone in the band got hit with something? i don't think sg would give a flying fuck if 75% of the audience went and sat at the second stage or off in the food court during their set if they were playing to 25% of the audience that was interested, and if not interested, at least not devoted to fucking them up! when i go see a band, and there's an opening act or another act on the bill, if i don't like them, my choices are to leave the show room, go to th back, or if i'm at the front, just stand there and wait. ya know? whatever. not fling shit at the band. not scream abuse at them. be polite and stand there. i don't idolise them for screaming insults. i feel sorry for them because they really wanted to do this and it's turned out pretty sucky. i do blame them for not bothering to do their homework, though. just my $.02. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: SOMMS@aol.com Subject: Life After Lolla..... Morning guys, I just got up and wanted to get my review in as fast as I could. So here it is: Ok, we *did* get a camera in, so as soon as film is developed, I guess I can see if Seth will put them on the page. Screaming Trees, Ramones and RATM were all very good. During Rage's set, I had the pleasure of spotting the band on a platform to the left of the stage, watching the set. Needless to say, I missed the rest of Rage's set and watched Chris do various things until Rage was over. Ok, so then we moved down until we were 30-45 feet away from the stage and watched their crew set up. We saw Matt and Kim talking to techs but never saw Chris and Ben until they were on. The set list was the same as it's been throughout the tour: Spooman Searching Let Me Drown Pretty Noose Burden My Wave Ty Cobb FOBD Rusty Cage BHS Outshined Mailman JCP The best two songs by far were Ty Cobb (big surprise) and JCP, both of which got most of the audience moving. Amazingly, Ben was really *happy* for our show--no kicking lights, screaming and cussing or walking offstage. I had been nervous the whole day because I had seen 40 bazillion Metallica shirts and 4, yes *4* SG ones. But as far as I could tell, the people down front during their set were indeed SG fans!!!!! And there wasn't the usual bottles on the stage routine. They didn't do anything out of the ordinary, but it was awesome just the same. I can't remember word for word what Mr. Cornell said, but here's what I've got: - --"It's beautiful country here." - --"It's finally fucking raining!" (It rained for one song during the beginning and then poured towards the end.) After PN, he looks out over the audience, waves at us and yells, "Hi you!" - --"I want to dedicate this next song to one of my personal heroes, Johnny Cash." (Rusty Cage) - --"You all can sing along to this next song if you want, it's ok if you don't know the words. Because I don't know what they mean anyway and I wrote them myself." (BHS--everyone left and he did it by hinself with his guitar and the entire audience sang along. It would have been cool except this stupid bimbo woo girl got on her boyfriend's shoulder's and completely blocked my view for the next two songs. All I could see was his hairline.) - --"This is about killing a man, killing a man, a fucked man. (Mailman) CHRIS--changed guitars six times. Wore a whitish/grey shirt that had black edging on the collar and sleeves. Tight, black Levi's with his workboots. No jewelry except for his silver hoop earrings. MATT--White shirt and black pants. I couldn't see what shoes. His drum kit and the stage for that matter didn't boast any logo of theirs. BEN--White tshirt and black leather pants. KIM--Black backwards baseball cap with his Tool shirt and black jeans. They all seemed to be in a pretty good mood. And Ben was *very* active, much more than I had expected him to be. Kim was smiling most of the time and Matt was drumming his heart out. Alrighty Shroom, this one's for you: He stripped himself of his shirt between My Wave and Ty Cobb (you want me to tell you how he took it off? ). And from then on out, we could all see that perfect, sweaty chest the rest of the show. Ok, I know Seth is hating this, so we'll meet on AOL tonight and I'll give you all the details, k? If I've forgotten anything, I'm sure Chas can fill you in. But I'm gonna go eat breakfast now. Talk to you guys later. ~Flutter~ PS-I had a few ppl ask about the SOMMS shirt I had on, but never ran into any other list members. ------------------------------ From: danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen) Subject: Is John McEnroe on the list??? Why am I asking that stupid question? Well, I read an article in the S.F. Chronicle about his band and he described it this way: "I'd like to compare my sound to -- a band like Soundgarden. To me they're the best band around. In my dreams I sing like (Chris Cornell). That guy to me is unbelievable." I wonder if someone criticizes his playing, would he throw down his guitar and stomp offstage??? Are you back T?? We want full details on the Atlanta show!! You brave girl, I nominate you for the "most persistant fan" award!! ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: hey.. isnt soundgarden playing in atlanta by themselves otnight? if they are, anyone who goes, you'll tell us how it is, so i won't bother asking you to. and about this weird kim thayil thing: i agree, it sounds more like something ben would do, NOT kim, and i dont understand why he'd punch someone out for taking pictures.. just seems really weird.. i dunno. i'd like to hear more about this... ..overfloater ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: review, part one I managed to get up close enough to be in the second row for Soundgarden. Soundgarden walked out. They were greeted by an awesome applause. The first song was of course "spoonman." At the end of the first line, Ben said "happy birthday Christopher" right in rythm with the song. Awesome. They went on to bang out "spoonman" while the crowd up front was yelling right along. Next was "Searchin with my good eye closed." Not particularly popular among the crowd. But Chris was totally into it. At the beggining, Ben was jumping around, Gumby style. At the soft part in the middle, Chris's voice was perfect, "stop, you're trying to bruise my mind....." It sent chills down my spine. "let me drown" followed. Chris was screaching banshee style and made it feel he was transferring his excitment to us. Chris is a total-fucking-Godhead. He even carried out the screaches past normal distance..... just totally awesome. "pretty noose" was met with an exciting round of applause. Even though i hate alterna-poseurs, it just felt awesome to have the crowd singing along, word for word. Kim's solo was right on. If i could play like that, i wouldn't care about getting excited on stage either.... "burden" was next i believe. God. I love this song even more now... I've never heard Chris sing so full and so fucking full of emotion as well. "i left her in the sand... just a burden in my hand!" The band was just having a great time, and so was the crowd. if memory serves correctly, "black hole sun" was next. It was epic to say the least. Chris looked like a God on stage by himself. Chris sang as if everyone he knew just died, and we were going to be the people he said bye to. Chris looked stoic, like someone who had gone up against the masses, and was not beating them, but rather calming them with song, before he drove the stake thru our hearts for being merciless ourselves. The chant of the crowd was excitingly eerie, like it was our last song, before we joined Chris in the search for peace among the dead. the band came back out and started into "rusty cage." With its punk themes, the crowd obliged the music by going full on. The best part had to be the crunching riff part at the end. Chris's voice was still in full swing.... totally amazing. next, they ripped the crowd into a frenzy with "ty cobb." The beat was unrelenting. People coming over my head at all angles. And Chris was soaking in the energy, running and jumping all over the stage. Ben accompanied Chris with the "fuck you all" part. And he was yelling his bloody lungs out. But it wasn't out of anger, it was just the pure energy of the song, and the energy he was getting from the crowd. And if Ben wasn't yelling into the mic, he was jumping around like a mad man. matt was going crazy behind the kit, beat for beat... he was perfect. i think "my wave" was next. Another song for chris to yell alot on. And he did. Chris was totally into. Some of it had to be a very appreciative crowd. There were lots of Soundgarden fans around me. The vibe was chilling. somewhere, the played "mailman." It was just to fucking awesome. Chris had never sounded so good. and they played "Fell on black days" somewhere to. I like this song... but it just doesn't fit into the large arena concert setting in my humble opinion. i think "outshined" was next. Well, i think most of the crowd up front knew this one because they fucking tore it up. Kim showed a few signs of enthusiasm for this song. Chris was just totally into, like the song had taken on knew meaning right there. Ben was dancing around, enjoying the crowd. they closed with "no attention". IN-FUCKIN-CREDIBLE!!! Ben was going crazy. And so was the crowd. Chris voice was still sounding fresh, and he sounded like he meant every word he was singing! This made the show for me... The ending part was awesome. Chris was stomping around like a man on a mission. more in next post... jeremy ------------------------------ Subject: Re: It's time to take action against this outrage! From: seth > I was on Undernet IRCing recently and I typed: > > /join #soundgarden > > Only to find that there was no such channel and I had just created it! > Now, this, fellow Soundgardeners is an outrage, how can the greatest > band on the planet possibly have no channel on IRC? We *do* have an IRC channel -- #somms -- but few people ever use it, and though it is accessible via Undernet, it is not registered. How about we just register this one and meet there next week sometime? It'll be a way to celebrate the list's first birthday. I only suggest #somms because that was the original plan many months ago, and because I believe (though I don't remember right now) the official Soundgarden "chat room" that was set up sometime after #somms uses #soundgarden (though not on Undernet). It would be great if you registered the address -- you can definitely use my email address (saperl@mit.edu) and nick (saperl) to vouch for it. seth ------------------------------ From: me Subject: nothing hey. i just subscribed to somms and it seems pretty cool so far. damn parents wont let me go to lolla cuz they suck, but i found a way to sneak so i might go anyway. this is probably a stupid question but i wanted to know whatever happened to that song karaoke that was supposed to be on the new album? someone was telling me about it or maybe i read about it...it sounded cool and i kinda wanted to hear it. email me if im an idiot and you know something that i probably dont know. if anyone is up for trading...i have a pretty awesome bootleg called harder faster...sound quality rocks and stuff...and they spelled kims last name wrong ("thayik") but its got a lot of cool stuff, mostly songs from badmotorfinger and some other older stuff from ultramega ok. also its really cool when chris starts singing pearl jam during the last track - -slaves and bulldozers. so if youre interested email me i guess, im looking for newer boots or any other cool stuff later zoe ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: review, part 2 the crowd.... I hope metallica doesn't come back around for a while :) I hope the lolla organizers get there shit together next year and have a more diverse line up. Truthfully.. it was a metallica concert, with lots of bands opening. there were quite a few people who knew Screaming Trees's songs.. but i don't think its necessary to get a bunch of military rejects and start a stampeding mosh/death pit while mark lanegan is singing.... i ventured over to the second stage to catch the end of Satchel. Interesting group. Very diverse, but good blend of heavy rock/blues. sorta like temple of the dog and mother love bone (RIP) The melvins were next. Can these guys pound out a beat that weights in like George Foreman or what!?!? they actually attracted a good crowd too. people were really into them. I know they played "at the stake", and and another song off of "stoner witch." I'm pretty sure they played something off of "houdini" and they played a few new songs. They are definetly an act worth catching... only if you don't want to see the Ramones. i did see the end of the Ramones set. They sounded awesome. I just wish they didn't play the same time the Melvins did.... They did sound like they were hurrying through their songs, if there is such a thing for the ramones ;) Rage against the machine was good if you like them. I don't. But they did whip the crowd into a frenzy. They had a good clear sound as well. i guess they are a pretty good live act if you like 'em. read part one for soundgarden info metallica. i had already seen them twice. well, the crowd was certainly up for it. i wasn't too impressed. They seemed to be playing flat, uninspired. The giutars weren't textured right, everything sounded like it could have come off the new album, "load." Lars's drumming was awesome if you like dragging 4/4 beats. Yes, thats sarcasm. i just wasn't impressed. happy, but very sunburned, jerm ------------------------------ From: erin@planet.eon.net Subject: polling.. Wow.. You people are prompt... Okay, I've gotten about 25-30 responses so far.. Not bad.. There's a definate winner right now (by about 10 votes) but it's still early. I'm not going to tell you the winner so far because that may unfairly influence people... Anyway, keep sending them... Erin. ------------------------------ From: endless_nameless@prodigy.com (GRRL NIKI FREER) Subject: pretty noose t-shirt guys, from all that i keep hearing, australia has the price for this t up a little too high. i purchased mine at a local store for only $16.99. so keep looking, or keeping waiting for the DOTU shirt. but i just wanted to let you know that it can be found cheaper somewhere, i bet. later, endless nameless ____ i see you turn around and burning down the feeling starts to sink i feel the hurt surround me please dissolve me she's resolved to be.... give up to greed, you don't have to feed me give up to fate, you don't have to need me so let it go, let it go, let it go, won't you let it drown me in you, drown me in you, drown me in you... (superunknown) "let me drown" chris cornell ------------------------------ From: Aldrich Subject: Beginning of Boot Camp I downloaded a shareware audio program called Gold Wave from http://web.cs.mun.ca/~chris3/goldwave/ That is really great for recording from CDs, and it plays .WAV, .AU, .AIFF, .VOC and many other kinds of audio files. The only bad thing is that after every 150 commands you have to close the program and then re-open it. This isn't nearly as bad as a lot of ways that programs try to get you to register. Anyway I recorded the beginning of Bootcamp as a .WAV file and used the program to filter out a lot of the bass (Sorry Ben) and make it much easier to hear the words. I don't think it is Ross Perot, but they are definitely talking about taxes. It is probably just some radio talk show host since Chris said he just recorded off the radio. (It would be funny if it ended up being Mike Seigel -- Seattle Joke) By any means it is 825 kbs and if anyone is interested I could try attaching it to an E-Mail, although I don't really have any idea how long it would take (don't worry, I wouldn't send it to the list) or if you wanted to send me a SASE and a 3.5 floppy disk I could send it to you. (Make sure the disk fits in the Envelope and put 2 stamps on it) I could probably find something to put on the space left on the disk too. E-Mail me if you are interested. ---Ryland Aldrich aldrich@nwlink.com ------------------------------ From: Aldrich Subject: Takin care of business... Here are responses to the recent surveys of favorites. Albums 1. Superunknown 2. Down On The Upside 3. Badmotorfinger 4. Ultramaega OK 5. Screaming Life/Fopp 6. Louder Than Love That was a lot harder for me than I expected. The top 3 are all really close. *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* 5 Favorite SG songs -- In no Particular Order Jesus Christ Pose Birth Ritual Superunknown Outshined Burden In My Hand There you are, sorry for not sending this directly to the people that asked, but I think you will figure it out. ---Ryland Aldrich aldrich@nwlink.com ------------------------------ From: Aldrich Subject: A couple of comments 1.) I would like to know the official word (Seth?), pending on what's happening w/ Nothingman, on whether or not it is still possible to order Sommsters T-Shirts. 2.) There have been a few questions about acquiring Soundgarden Posters (I would also be interested in them). I have a very cool BMF poster that has a bunch of polaroids in the background and some some closeups in front, 2 for each member other than Chris who has 3, (2 being shirtless, for Shroom) and they were taken on Kim's B-Day judging from the banner. Anyway, there is a logo in the corner and an address for anyone that gets ambitous enough to write and ask about other posters. If you do this please share your results w/ the list. Funky Enterprises, Inc. 132-05 Atlantic Ave. Richmond Hill, NY 11418 3.) Seth - I strongly suggest that you do the idea you were planning of making adding a page that lists all the Imports/Singles and the Ranges of Prices we have found them for. I know I would be interested in this, anybody else? Oh well, I guess there was one more than a couple. ---Ryland Aldrich aldrich@nwlink.com ------------------------------ From: Mo Subject: It's time to take action against this outrage! I was on Undernet IRCing recently and I typed: /join #soundgarden Only to find that there was no such channel and I had just created it! Now, this, fellow Soundgardeners is an outrage, how can the greatest band on the planet possibly have no channel on IRC? I promptly applied to Undernet for a form to start up a new channel. Now I've got my form, all filled in, except for two things. The channel must be open and have people using it before I can get a bot put in and I need ten IRC nicknames and e-mail addresses to vouch for it. All you've gotta do is go on IRC whenever you're on the net and type /join #soundgarden. Then just minimize the window and run off and do whatever the hell you want. This'll help keep the channel open until Undernet put a bot in it. E-mail me if you're interested. Mo. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: A couple of comments From: seth > I would like to know the official word (Seth?), pending on what's happening > w/ Nothingman, on whether or not it is still possible to order Sommsters > T-Shirts. No, it is not still possible to order shirts, as far as I know. I imagine that there will be another chance to order shirts sometime in the near future, possibly a different design, definitely handled by someone other than Nothingman. > Seth - I strongly suggest that you do the idea you were planning of making > adding a page that lists all the Imports/Singles and the Ranges of Prices we > have found them for. I know I would be interested in this, anybody else? I'm working on the necessary scripts that will automate the updating of the low, high, and average prices each time a new price is submitted. I can't promise anything, because I'm also trying to finish another special feature for the site this week, but I will try to get it up and running by this weekend. seth ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: quotes Well, I'm back again, after having had a shitty time in my life and been = away for a while. Just after I caught up a fortnight ago I am once = again way behind in Somms readings. :-( BUT!! I just wanted anyone who cares to know that I'm still working on = the quotes for the web page. Will take me a long time - I have almost a = whole year's worth of quotes to go through! - but I'll get there. Ben Timberlake wrote: >>Can quotes of the week be poignant? If so, I nominate this one. >You know your obsessed when you keep listening to a SG song even when >it reminds you of someone you love and they no longer love you.. - jamie Ben, I agree. Our dear Jamesetta has often come up with some poignant = phrases and I'm sure she'll feature a few times on our web page. Gotta = love our village idiot. Okay, enough writing. Back to reading Somms stuff - and yet more = obsessive quotes....... Carolyn the Missed or Forgotten? Follow me into the desert, as thirsty as you are......SG ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Good Times On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Mayor McCheese wrote: > I Just Have to know . . . What if this had been one of us taking the > pictures for the unofficial homepage?!?! Jesus Christ, with the 5 real > fans I saw amongst the 30,000 Metallica fans, you think they'd be > grateful for someone who loves 'em that much. Next time Kim, take out the > guy throughing pizza trays and water bottles, not taking pictures of ya. > The next somms headline will be "Caryn Rose at Seattle Lolla, *most* > pictures are on the Unofficial Homepage, including one of Kim's fist close > up!". personally i do not get these bands who have hissy fits about cameras. i had a waterproof disposable wrenched out of my hands at a pearl jam show in san jose... WHY???? i can understand bands wanting to protect unauthorized images making it out there, but those aren't going to originate from a point-and-shoot 35mm or an instamatic. the fans just want to capture a moment, so just let them, dammit. it's one thing if it's someone wants to cart in a SLR with a telephoto lens (and even then i just don't get it), but if this is true it's *&^% stupid. and even then i can understand at a club or a theatre, where it could be unnerving to have the first few rows full of cameras, but at an outdoor stadium-type show, how the fuck would you even notice? btw, i've been scanning reuters entertainment news all day. no news of our mr. thayil. ...and if it *was* me, you can be sure i'd be yelling, "i'm from SOMMS! seth told me to! shroom told me to! matt... help me!!! ;-)" - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: i take it back! story on kim from AP! Thayil Accused of Assault Rockingham, NC (AP) -- Kim Thayil is a little camera shy. The lead guitarist for Soundgarden apparently didn't want his picture taken with a young fan and, according to her, broke her friend's camera and slapped her after they exchanged words, The Charlotte Observer reported. Thayil was arrested early Sunday after the rock group performed at the Lollapalooza concert. he was released on $2,500 bond after he ws charged with assaulting Heather Mifflin of Charlotte and causing damage to property, Mecklenburg County sheriff's deputies said. Soundgarden's "Black Hole Sun" earned a hard-rock performance Grammy this year. - --Associated Press ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: I Got My Shirt!!! Yeah right, But I got your attention I bet!!! But anyways, looking for soundgarden stuff on the net today I found: 1. Jason Bonham, son of that other great drummer, said in an interview that Soundgarden was a favorite band of his, and said that the new album was definately going to go somewhere. Whatever that means. 2. A slightly better of critic of music, Robert Plant, has also noted Soundgarden as one of his favorite bands of the recent. 3. I found a racecar paintkit file with a soundgarden theme for Papyrus's NASCAR RACING. If any other people are a fan of this game, write me for the url. The actual racecar is ok looking, with a superunkown theme, and has inspired me to make my own (there goes my Soundgarden Doom Wad to the backburner again . . .) Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Panic, all hell breaks loose A battered body screams abuse A plastic bullet ends his youth A motherless son turns and pukes" ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Soundgarden's behaviour re Metallica fans........am I impressed?? On 18 July Fresh Tendrils wrote: >>.......But highlight of the set had to be Ty Cobb. The song was sort of indirectly dedicated to all the inactive metallica fags in the crowd. Ben was EXTREMELY pissed off he stepped up to the mic and yelled out : "...White trash motherfuckers!! Fuckin' buttcheek motherfuckers!!" At the end of the song, Ben once again let = his discontent be known to the metallica crowd: "You've come to see metallica, don't ya white fuck!!!".......... Okay, here I go, back in action. I LOVE Soundgarden's music. Love it. = And I guess I'm relatively obsessed with this band for I own all their = music, several t-shirts, prick up my ears if anyone ever talks about = them, get all excited if I ever see an article about them, and spend way = too much of my time (according to people around me) reading Somms = postings. =20 HOWEVER, being so inclined does not mean I idolise everything the band = does, and it certainly doesn't mean everything the band does impresses = me. Is Ben yelling out the above really so fantastic? Does that make him = any better than the people in the crowd he so despised? >>The vibe at the lolla gig was cool, but you could tell SG is = definitely fed up to being touted as "the opening act for Metallica". And now I am really confused. I'm sure I've read in many articles that = Soundgarden WANTED to do Lolla because Metallica were. They WANTED to = tour with Metallica. What, just because not everyone in this world idolises them are they now = acting like spoilt children? Just me, a puzzled Carolyn the Mind-boggling Filth-bag I'm doing somethin' I'm not supposed to.....Violent Femmes ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: review, part 2 On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: > there were quite a few people who knew Screaming Trees's songs.. but i > don't think its necessary to get a bunch of military rejects and start a > stampeding mosh/death pit while mark lanegan is singing.... quote of the week? ;-) (does it have to be sg related? ;-) ) [well i thought it was funny] - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: SG oddbits... Hando asked: >>Did any Oz sommsters see the BIMH video on RAGE last weekend?? Carolyn? Lee? Stephen? Hanging to see it - a most awesome choice of single. Bummer, no I didn't. I'm hanging out to see it also, after the reviews = I've read tonight on it. (do you realise I've now read 252 Somms = postings IN A ROW with no stopping inbetween? - my eyes are bloodshot = and burning, but I'm determined to get the last 11 read before I switch = off my PC for the night) I even saw most of Recovery on Saturday morning......damn how could I = have missed the SG video? And I must now congratulate Seth on the CC birthday section of the web = page.......looks great! Of course I'm too late now to send a birthday = greeting :-( so will perhaps instead down a beer in his honour when I = celebrate my own birthday on Saturday (CC's b'day is exactly one week = before mine, which in turn is exactly one day before the birthday of = this list - some useless trivia for you all!). Carolyn the Marooned & Faraway So I'm drinking with the boys and we'll stumble out to the street and there we'll fight.......Inflatable Soule ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: summer nights and long warm days... On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, caryn rose wrote: > as to carolyn's comments about ben's crowd taunting, i dunno. if they > think they'd enjoy the challenge of winning an audience over. but when > it's an audience full of people who wanna do nothing more than fuck around > during your set and throw shit at you, well, i'd lose my temper mighty sorry carolyn, but I think that ben's taunting is ok, if not somewhat valid. and caryn seems to have hit the nail right on the head. I remember reading an article where chris said that he would rather have the audience either love him or hate him. what would really be burning up the band (imho) is the apparent ambivalence shown by the crowd at some shows. if ben was really angry with how the crows was reacting (throwing shit and being general wits), then you can only expect him to give a little in return. I can't imagine ben swallowing that kind of stuff. as for the band not knowing what they were in for on the tour, I think that they would have had a fairly good idea of what the atmosphere was going to be like carolyn. let's face it, they aren't babes in the woods when it comes to things musical. this is a band who delayed their move to a major label because they didn't feel that they were ready for it. how many other bands could claim to have made the same decision? so I think it can be safely assumed that they have their heads screwed on fairly well. it would be sad if the lollapalooza festival turned into the metallica u.s tour. I don't think that soundgarden would have really seen it that way. you would think that the crowd might be a little more open-minded, especially with bands like the screaming trees and rage against the machine playing. but it seems that 75% of the audience is a metallica fan, which is something (all that "metallica is the best band in the world" stuff aside) the band couldn't have counted on, or even guessed at. I don't think any other lolla's have been quite so directed towards one band. at least I can take consolation in the fact that when the band gets here, I won't have to contend for position with 35000 other people (who are there for some other band) during the show. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide - words by kim thayil ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: not back but maybe just thought i'd write in and say hey to you people... can't seem to get a digest, but maybe if i'm lucky... i picked up louder than love the other day, and it's neat... i can't listen to full on kevin's mom w/o laughing (name's kevin). ugly truth is one badass song... i've been looking at the band's progression from LTL to BMF to superunknown to DOTU and it's like the most linear of any band i've ever seen. songs from BMF (most notably somewhere) could easily fit onto DOTU or many combinations of albums, you probably think i'm just wasting your time, but this makes sense to me and a friend i talked it over with. I got the new tabs from the unofficial page and am really happy w/ them except for that tuning problem (unless they've been fixed they're messed up.) and have been learning every SG song i can get ahold of lately... fresh tendrils is fun... i like to irritate my friends by making them listen, but then they figure out what it is and are a little better about it.. so what's up w/ the clear vinyl, did i miss out on that UnknMan?? infinite ------------------------------ From: Neuromute@aol.com Subject: soundgarden haiku Read an article in the Wall Street Journal (sorry...) that said haiku is all the rage on the 'net. Since I didn't really get into the "You know you are obsessed with" thread, maybe I can start a new one . . . My haiku in anticipation of this Thursdays Lollapalloza..... Ben Sheperd plays bass Hates redneck motherfuckers . . . Welcome to Texas anyone . . . ? ------------------------------ From: ASDrum@aol.com Subject: BIMH Video/Lolla Highlights-Lowlights Hello all. Finally saw the new video the other day. It's.....well......OK. Visually stunning, but rather dull. It needed something...... you know, like a few things thrown in to make their trek through the desert interesting. (REM - Losing My Religion - perfect example that a video can be both visually beautiful AND interesting.) Do you ever look at videos today and say to yourself - "If they would just let ME have a shot at this...". Aaaaaaahh. (Shroom, we're talkin MUSIC videos, not porno flicks, Ok? Ok.) Now Pretty Noose, although not quite perfect, was definitely on the right track. A few more band scenes, and it was there. A couple of things on BIMH: I read/heard (can't keep track) Chris Cornelius say recently that as far as SG videos/directors go, he was only satisfied with one or two of the videos they've made. When pushed, he admitted to liking Howard Greenhaugh (BHS), and that's about it. At the time, I wondered, well...what about Fell On Black Days? That video seems more their style, and he didn't mention it. Hmmmm. Then lo and behold, look who directed BIMH - Jake Scott! He directed FOBD as well, so I guess they DID like him. Jake Scott, incidentally, is the son of Ridley Scott (director - Alien, Thelma & Louise, Blade Runner) and the nephew of Tony Scott (director - True Romance, Top Gun, Crimson Tide), and is getting ready to direct his first feature - "The Gun". (Yeah, I'm a movie fanatic too). Went to Lolla in West Palm Beach. The show was excellent. Set list went like this: Spoonman, Searching, Let Me Drown, PN, BIMH, My Wave, Ty Cobb, FOBD, Rusty Cage, BHS, Outshined, Mailman, and Drawing Flies. Chris wore a grey (form fitting-tucked in!) t-shirt and black jeans. Kim - black t-shirt, blue jeans, Ben - white button-up, black leather pants, couldn't see what Matt was wearing. Chris, who hardly said two words, took off his shirt right around Ty Cobb; Ben was well behaved throughout (good boy!); Kim was his usual chillin self; and Matt was awesome. The crowd wasn't all that bad either. My favorite part was how they ended BHS - Chris as we know plays it alone, and that was OK, but when he gets to the end: "Hang my head, drown my fear, till you all just disappear...", the band had snuck back on stage by this point, so you expect them all to chime in "BLACK HOLE SUN, Won't you come" but instead they go right into Outshined. No pause, no nothing. AWESOME. :-) Also, I got all excited when they ended with Drawing Flies :-) (love this song!), until after the first verse when Chris' mic died :-( There he was, singing his little heart out, and you couldn't even hear him! Hey - you think he was just fakin' us out? Maybe his voice was tired by this point, or maybe he said "why did I pick THIS song to end with....too many words.....I'll just make pretend....". So that was kind of a downer. But hey, got to hear the instrumental version of Drawing Flies anyway! That's my babbling for today. Hope I didn't bore you. Ciao babies........ Ang ------------------------------ From: Neuromute@aol.com Subject: more SG haiku Christopher Cornell Women want to fuck him so Big Dumb Sex indeed Kim, philosopher Searching with his good eye closed For one more Molson . . . Matt lurks the SOMMS list Is it him or someone else? Is he stoned or not? Susan runs the show Successful business woman Fucks Chris as well, girls . . . ------------------------------ From: dbradsh@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: No Molsen hey i forgot to mention this... before the guys came out, i could see kim and Ben on the side of the stage and Kim was NOT drinking Molsen's...it looked like budweiser (yuck) in a can...just thought id share that... D Dee Dee Bradshaw-Autry http://www.angelfire.com/pages1/deedee/index.html ------------------------------ From: p8743 Subject: uh,heyyyyyyyyyyy....... yup, first time message. i'm not an obsessed fan of SG. they did kick ass at LOLLAPALOOZA in west virginia. (from BAltimore, here) i'm really likin' thier latest record. GROTE- morphine's awesome! (sorry obsessed SG fans) what kind of music is Nudeswirl?? peace,all. later************************** ------------------------------ From: infinite Subject: overfloater to anyone who cares: heres what i think the intro is to overfloater low to high CGDGBE (i play in Eb usually but it makes little difference) \/---it gets iffy here G---10-9-10-9--9-10-9-7 C----0-0--0-0--0--0-0-0 plus the first few "i wanna make it right" parts (after intro part) slide PM the open C's D--5/7----7-7-10 G--5/7----7-7-10 C--0-0-0-0-0-0-0 w/ or w/o the open C, w/o i'd substitute scratches for them maybe this will get someone started who has a better ear than mine (pretty much anyone)to do it right (like the song) ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: "quote of the week" > > > > On Mon, 22 Jul 1996 j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: > > > there were quite a few people who knew Screaming Trees's songs.. but i > > don't think its necessary to get a bunch of military rejects and start a > > stampeding mosh/death pit while mark lanegan is singing.... > > quote of the week? ;-) > (does it have to be sg related? ;-) ) > [well i thought it was funny] > > --caryn this one's for Chris :) Chris: (after picking up a deodorant thing of Secret that someone threw on stage.. something along the lines of....) "strong enough for a man, made for a woman... you girls throw some weird shit up here. It's usually the guys that throw shit up here. And the other people come for the music." i thought it was pretty funny... Chris was smiling about it. I think Ben even laughed. "i give what i got to give, i give what i need to live.. its important if i want to live." the RAMONES!! jeremy.. sorry, i'm on a Ramones kick :) ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Raul Agrait) Subject: Re: It's time to take action against this outrage! I, as well, have been trying forever to get #somms going, sometimes i meet omeone there..rare occassion though. If theres gonna be a meeting, please post to the list when it's gonna be. - -Raul >We *do* have an IRC channel -- #somms -- but few people ever use it, >and though it is accessible via Undernet, it is not registered. How >about we just register this one and meet there next week sometime? >It'll be a way to celebrate the list's first birthday. > >I only suggest #somms because that was the original plan many months >ago, and because I believe (though I don't remember right now) the >official Soundgarden "chat room" that was set up sometime after #somms >uses #soundgarden (though not on Undernet). > >It would be great if you registered the address -- you can definitely >use my email address (saperl@mit.edu) and nick (saperl) to vouch for >it. > >seth > > > ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: =) >...and if it *was* me, you can be sure i'd be yelling, "i'm from >SOMMS! seth told me to! shroom told me to! matt... help me!!! ;-)" Heheheh... yah, Seth and I got together and hired this big muscle guy to go to Caryn's place, and tell her that if she didn't come up with some pictures of SG for the unofficial page... then the guy was gonna break her kneecaps and build obscene Spam creations on her front lawn. Well, actually Seth is the one who was pushing for web page material. I personally wanted Caryn to sneak backstage, and surprise Chris while he was showering. But hell... it's all in the name of art, right?!? Heheheh... >Do you ever look at videos today and say to yourself - "If they would >just let ME have a shot at this...". Aaaaaaahh. >Shroom, we're talkin MUSIC videos, not porno flicks, Ok? Ok.) Oh c'mon Ang!! Music videos? Ok, excuse me for harping on a worn-out subject... but what in the hell was "Outshined?" They totally cut the guitar solo in both versions, and there are more close-ups of Chris' sexy body than of ANYTHING else. Now if that isn't the closest thing to SG porn I'VE ever seen... ;-) A Soundgarden Haiku... by Shroom I am not psycho For wanting to see Chris nude Susan agrees... NOT! Okokok... so poetry is a weak spot. Just shoot me already. I really got a kick out of Brians stuff, though. Who knew that lawyers actually have creative sides? ;-) Ummm... just kidding!!! Heheheh... >The lead guitarist for Soundgarden apparently didn't want his picture >taken with a young fan and, according to her, broke her friend's camera >and slapped her after they exchanged words, The Charlotte Observer >reported. The key words in this release being "according to her." For all we know, this girl could be a spoiled brat used to getting her way, and a compulsive liar, to boot. Or maybe I could just be looking wildly for a reason to defend someone from my (fave) band. It's been suggested to me that maybe Kim was drunk during this incident. Heheheh... ummm, when Erin and I somehow manage to get backstage on Thursday, I'll make sure and ask Kim what REALLY happened. ;-) Yah, right. Shroom "You want pictures of me in the shower, Shroom? Of course I'll let you take some shots of me!! Tell Caryn to bring her GOOD camera, and you pick up a couple of those waterproof disposable ones." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 'x|qdg@.dkq R|#k' $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: It's time to take action against this outrage! From: seth > I, as well, have been trying forever to get #somms going, sometimes i meet > omeone there..rare occassion though. If theres gonna be a meeting, please > post to the list when it's gonna be. Okay, I propose that we meet on #somms on Sunday night at 10pm EDT. I will put the somewhat comprehensive list of Undernet servers on our private mailing list Web page. There are already links there to IRC applications for Macs and PCs. As for users without access to IRC (such as those with AOL accounts), we can meet on AOL again sometime next week. If some AOL users want to decide when and where, that would be great. seth ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: New Orleans Lolla I'll be off to New Orleans in less than 12 hours for the big show. If anyone wants to spy something 'ray' I'll be wearing knee length tan shorts & a solid white t-shirt (homage to Ben I guess). I've got brown to red hair (dammit... it's NOT freakin blonde) & it's relatively short now. I'm tall (about 6"2'... um.. not sure about metric) & thin (around 150 lbs.. again, not sure about metric). Oh, I've got a pic on the Member List Profile 'thing' & I basically look like that. I'll answer to ray, raygun, unknownman, graves, ray david, ray dammit, etc... but I WON'T respond to the ever popular "HEY YOU"! Then again, last time I checked no one reading the list religiously is even GOING to the Nola Lolla (love saying that) so never mind (c: I plan to supply my roving-reporter-report (alliteration's fun!) after my early shift Wednesday morning which will be around 1300 before my first class. Hm... I should probably sleep now... getting out before he drowns, ray (c: ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 192] ****************************************