From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 13 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 13 Jul 1996 03:44:56 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 13 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Randall's Island 7/10/96 Review (Part 1) Re: Japanese Dotu Flashing Chris You know You're Obsessed with SG When... Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Japanese Dotu Mulletpalooza, Randall's Island 7/11/96 jeff.foxworthy@thenexus.com Randall's Island Review (Part 2) Re: Randall's Island Review (Part 2) oops again!! AHA!!! Re: Randall's Island Review (Part 2) ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Randall's Island 7/10/96 Review (Part 1) The 55 minute set (in order of ALBUM) 1) Rusty Cage 2) Outshined 3) Searching With My Good Eye Closed 4) Drawing Flies 5) Let Me Drown 6) Mailman 7) Spoonman 8) Black Hole Sun 9) Fell On Black Days 10) Pretty Noose 11) Burden In My Hand 12) Ty Cobb 13) Um, did I exclude one? Anybody? Bueller? Chris said they cut a song, but didn't say which one or why. They didn't cover 'Waiting for the Sun'. :( ------------------------------------------------------------- Surfer/Mosher Injury Report: 1 broken nose, 1 broken ankle, 1 unconscious dude, 1 very bloody mouth (he said, "Do you have a napkin?", 1 crying girl (she said, "Fuck everybody.") ------------------------------------------------------------- CHRIS: The Man, The Voice, The Body He stomped, smacked his head, pounded his chest and smirked throughout the spirited performance and punctuated the ends of songs with self-satisfied comments like "Perfect." and "Beautiful." My test for whether or not he's in good voice is the extended 'beeeeeeee' of 'Let Me Drown'. If he holds this word as he did on the 'Superunknown' LP, he's healthy. He held it. Chris has very apparently stopped working out. He's lost weight and muscle bulk. He's skeletal, but still masculine and stunning. He's powder white with a tiny, cut waist. He's very fit and parades his entrance with a black, completely unbuttoned, SNL-like, high collar, short sleeve shirt. And remember the blue color of the SNL shirt -- well that's the color of his boxer shorts waist band that he lets peak out from his black jeans. Looks like a recent hair cropping. Slicks it down in the back. Spikes the front. More importantly, the man is a natural flirt. He'd walked to the edge of the stage, acknowledging the pleading screams with that sly, teasing, 'Who, me?' expression. Hate him. :) Caryn, this one's for you...Chris asked who was in attendance at their last NY appearance (the hellish Armory shows). He acknowledged that "It was 200 degrees. I almost died." To all of us who suffered with him, he said, "Thank you. You got soul." (Your welcome, Chris.) He concluded the set by flinging the microphone through the scaffolding above. I was still looking at the dangling microphone when I realized they had marched off stage for good. :( ------------------------------------------------------------ Kim wins 'Best Quote from the Lollapalooza Magazine' for his reply to 'You versus the Shaolin Monks: Who would win?'. He answered "They are highly coordinated people with big knives. If they weren't using their weapons, we might be able to do some damage." ------------------------------------------------------------- More tomorrow. -Vikki :) ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Re: Japanese Dotu > Yodelin' Pig CD & Collectables > 10435 reisterstown Road,Bld.3 > Owings Mills, MD 21117 > FAX 410-654-0751 PH:410-654-0516 > Hours M-F 10-6;Sat 10-6;Sun- machine orders only > Is advertising Soundgarden-DOTU cd,JPN/1 Xtra Trk,16 Trks,ss $35.00 > Found this in GOLDMINE #417 July 19,1996 issue.these are the exact words. > Page 66/67 > I have no idea what ss stands for. SS could stand for Still Sealed. I have a different magazine and that's what SS stands for in that one. srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Flashing Chris Overfloater responded to Mayor McCheese, who was responding to her earlier post: > > BE>> don't know why. There's a new poll: If you saw some girls flash Chris > BE>> during his solo rendition of BHS, would you be pissed? =) I also got > > BE> I wouldn't be *pissed* but I would seriously think that girl was > BE>stupid. Would a woman be mad if she was flashed by a guy? That's > BE>sexual harassment and no one should have to put up with it. Nothing > BE>shows the a person's IQ more than their actions. > > I dont know if pissed was the right word :) It just annoyed me, I > guess.. the only time I would EVER flash Chris Cornell is with my high > beams (and thats if he had his on) :) (sorry, a lil driving home from > lolla humor) A woman flashed her tits at Chris at a concert I was at some years back and he totally blew her off saying something like: "Why do you feel like you have to do something like that? Believe me, if you have a hole someone will fuck it" He said it with such disgust (not even amusement) that it was clear it wouldn't be him. Chris seems to be the kind of guy that would be turned off by that kind of behavior, which is why it doesn't bother me too much when women do it. If they know that little about the band then they shouldn't even be there, but if they think so little of themselves why should I. I agree that it is a form of sexual harassment, especially when women try mauling him. What we fantasize about is one thing, but to force yourself on somebody, male or female, rock god or your average Joe, is just plain wrong. It degrades both people and shows a total lack of respect. Kathie ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: You know You're Obsessed with SG When... Flutter Girl wrote: > Is anyone out there aware of an "You Know You're Obsessed With Soundgarden > When....." list?? If not, I think it would be a nice addition to the > Unofficial page--what do you guys think? If ppl are interested, I don't mind > compiling a list and getting it ready for Seth....just let me know. I think thats a good idea. > "You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you buy the soundtrack just > "for that one song", even though you already have it on two other CD's." > Yes, I have done this, not once but several times and not only with soundtracks. I buy bootlegs and singles even if I have all the songs, just because I want EVERYTHING. Even if something like this doesn't make it onto the page I think it makes a great new thread. Unfortunately my mind is total mush right now, so I'll have to think of some examples later. Kathie ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Damn but this isnt the best thread so far IMHO...... ~ You know that your obsessed with SG when you call the local Indie stores to see what they have and you tell them it's the" Soundgarden Girl " and they know exactly who you are. ~ You know that you are obsessed with SG when you want to name your Dog after the band. ~ You know that your obssessed with SG when you talk to all your friends ( off of the list) about the list and SG and they hang up on you. ~ You know your obsessed with SG when you only date guys who look like members of the band. ~ You know your obsessed with SG when you wonder what they are doing right NOW!! ~ You know your obsessed with SG when you start AOL rooms in thier honor. ~ You know your obssessed with SG when you find someone that is more obsessed with them than you are....and you think its cool. ~ You know that your obsessed with SG when you carry pictures of the band in your wallet.( that would have to be shroomy) ~ you know that your obsessed with SG when you pass off pictures of the band as one of your boyfriends to unsuspecting family members/ stupid people.( again, thats shroomy) ~ You know that your obsessed with SG when you dress up as them for Halloween. ~ You Know that your obsessed with Chris Cornell when you see pictures of him ( circa.. Superunknown) and you fell the urge to grab a magic marker and fill in his lost locks. ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... oopsy me.... I forgot to sign my name at the end of my last post... oh well I guess that you all could tell it was me... hey I forgot one... ~ You Know when your obsessed with Sg when you... (ah well I guess I have written enough already!!!) Bye all... Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Japanese Dotu Yodelin' Pig CD & Collectables 10435 reisterstown Road,Bld.3 Owings Mills, MD 21117 FAX 410-654-0751 PH:410-654-0516 Hours M-F 10-6;Sat 10-6;Sun- machine orders only Is advertising Soundgarden-DOTU cd,JPN/1 Xtra Trk,16 Trks,ss $35.00 Found this in GOLDMINE #417 July 19,1996 issue.these are the exact words. Page 66/67 I have no idea what ss stands for. DISCLAIMER;I do not work for Yodelin' Pig nor do I know anyone who does and neither do I own stock in said company.FYI only,if I get around to it.I may order a copy and post my findings,It is kind of pricey,and I have my eyes on other things too. Gonz ------------------------------ Subject: Mulletpalooza, Randall's Island 7/11/96 From: seth I'll just give my review of the second Randall's Island show (7/11) using quotes from Vikki's review of the previous day's show... > The 55 minute set (in order of ALBUM) > > 1) Rusty Cage > 2) Outshined > 3) Searching With My Good Eye Closed > 4) Drawing Flies > 5) Let Me Drown > 6) Mailman > 7) Spoonman > 8) Black Hole Sun > 9) Fell On Black Days > 10) Pretty Noose > 11) Burden In My Hand > 12) Ty Cobb They didn't do "Drawing Flies." They did "Jesus Christ Pose" instead. That song made the set for me -- they ended with it, and Chris introduced it by saying, "This is where Matt gets his fucking workout." Kim left his guitar onstage feeding back as the band walked off. It was *really* good, by far the best in the set, and Matt was flawless. The rest of the set was pretty good, if uninspired, though "Outshined" and "Mailman" weren't done very well. "Rusty Cage," especially the slow part, was great; it was one of the only times Chris really got into it, stomping around the stage. "Spoonman" was refreshingly heavy; I don't particularly enjoy the album version. "Black Hole Sun," on the other hand, sounds better with the rest of the band playing; Chris did it solo as he has for the whole tour, and it wasn't very exciting. The songs from DOTU were pretty straightforward, and Chris even threw in a cheese-metal move, spinning the mic stand around his head, at the beginning of "Ty Cobb." Unfortunately, the band didn't seem interested, and neither did the crowd. Chris moved to the sides of the stage a few times, but mostly only left his post to change guitars. The only time Ben even began to lurch around was when they did the tracks from Badmotorfinger. :( Kim just looked bored, strumming away on his green Guild (I think it was a Guild; it looks just like the white one he plays all the time, except it was green). For those interested in fashion, Chris wore his now-standard Lolla attire: the open black short-sleeve shirt with black jeans. Matt was in black shorts and a black shirt with the sleeves missing, Kim was in a black shirt and jeans, and Ben wore a white shirt and black jeans. All of the equipment cases that were on stage were black, except for one on the far right-hand side of the stage, which was bright orange and had "HATER" spray-painted on it. Ben's collection of basses was sitting on top of it. I spent much of my time protecting people smaller than me from flying mulletheads, who thought it amusing to "mosh" (read: throw each other around) during such fast-tempo rockers as "Black Hole Sun." Assholes. While I was watching the Ramones (more on other bands below) earlier on the day, I saw Ben backstage. I was standing to the left of the stage, not wanting to be right in front until SG came on, so I could see past the side of the stage and into the restricted area. Anyway, I happened to look over, and about 20 feet past the gate was Ben, chatting with a security guard. I ran over and yelled Ben's name a few times, but couldn't get his attention. Hell, I couldn't even hear myself over the Ramones' sound. - --- WARNING: SG CONTENT ENDS HERE --- As for the rest of Lolla, it was a white male jockfest, with mullets abounding. I counted 6 (SIX!) Soundgarden shirts the whole day, and I was wearing one of them -- everyone was there for Metallica, and unfortunately, the majority of them were pretty obnoxious. Here's some reviews of the rest of the show: Schwinn/Airwalk halfpipe: I'm not sure if there was a skateboarding demo as well, but I saw the cycling demo. Very entertaining. Lots of spinning and flipping and free t-shirts. Rancid: Appropriate name. They weren't very good. It only got interesting when they brought out the brass players. A good time to go buy a $3 hot dog and a $4 pretzel. And wash it down with a 20-ounce, $3 Coke. Ramones: For a bunch of old guys () they can still rock. Joey said "1-2-3-4" and they never stopped. They played for an hour with no breaks between songs. They dedicated "Pet Cemetery" (or is it "Sematary"?) to Rancid, Soundgarden, and Howard Stern. Someone forgot to tell Joey that it was 85 degrees out: he wore his black leather jacket. Ruby: Cool stuff on Second Stage. Take time out and go see her. She was really funny, hamming it up for the crowd, and the music was excellent. Reminded me somewhat of Luscious Jackson. Cornershop: Second Stage also. I only caught a few minutes of their set, but they were a bit too spacey for me. Wu Tang Clan: They threw a ton of free stuff (tapes, posters) into the crowd before bring out Supersoakers and spraying everyone. But as far as their music goes, I wasn't very impressed. Go buy a $5 cup full of ice (usually advertised as "Coke"). Metallica: I take back every bad thing I said about Metallica since 1991. If they could capture their live sound on their albums, life would be good. Their set was outstanding, the best set of the day by far. By this time, it was already dark, and the only lights were the stange lights. They were totally into it, and (obviously) so was the crowd. After being really disappointed with the new album, it was great to hear them in concert; that bluesy alt-rock crap wass gone, and everything was incredibly heavy. Even "Nothing Else Matters" from the black album, which had quite a few people holding up their lighters during the intro, became a monster. They played a ton of old stuff, including a version of "One" complete with pyrotechnics that was simply amazing. Lars was the most fun to watch; his drum kit is so ridiculously huge that half the time he's jumping off of his stool to hit his cymbals, and his double-bass drum rolls were superb. Hetfield was back to his old barking self, making no pretense of trying to sing (read: "Hero of the Day"). Everyone wore black. No white shirts, no suspenders. A perfect, tight set. Do not leave after Soundgarden plays. Just move back, out of mullethead territory, and enjoy the show. Sorry I didn't meet up with anyone from the list -- I had already left for New York by the time the meeting spot was chosen. seth ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: jeff.foxworthy@thenexus.com If you have a heart attack every time you see the sign for Cornell Street, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If you thought about getting the Badmotorfinger wheel tattooed on your leg, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If you end up wearing five shirts to a Soundgarden show because you bought four there and you have no one to hold them for you, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If there are more Soundgarden stickers on your car than there is paint, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If your dad starts to sing along to "Limo Wreck" or "Rusty Cage" when you're in the car together, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. (BTW, my dad listens to music in the Mariah Carey/Fine Young Cannibals vein.) If you're planning on naming your kids Chris, Ben, Matt, and Kim, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If your preppie sister starts singing "Big Dumb Sex" to her boyfriend because 1) she's horny and 2) she's heard it so much, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If people at your lame high school call you a dirtbag and claim that you "always wear the same Soundgarden shirt", when in fact they can't tell the difference between the 30 SG shirts you own (and the fact that this kid is a fucking moron too), you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If your band teacher does impressions of you meeting Chris Cornell by stuttering and giggling a lot, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If your ninth grade English teacher remembers you as "that girl who really liked Soundgarden," you might be obsessed. If you wrote a story for English class about what it's like to be Chris Cornell's hair, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If you wrote a book report for English class on a Soundgarden biography that doesn't exist (I did this before New Metal Crown came out) and you get a B minus on it, you might be obsessed with Soundgarden. If your senior class's prophecy involves you playing bass for Soundgarden and being married to Chris Cornell, you might be obsessed. ok im going to shut up now :) ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Randall's Island Review (Part 2) For all who love to watch the guys when their just being RnR fans, check out the side lines during the Screaming Trees & the Ramones. More than likely, you'll see Matt, Chris, Kim, Ben (and Susan), behind the scaffolding. (Chris said they will watch EVERY Ramones performance throughout the tour.) The side panels of the Lolla stage are SHEER. I spotted Chris's profile immediately during the Trees' set. He was sitting alone, white T-shirt, black sunglasses, legs crossed (man-style), stroking his goatee, head banging Chris-style (side to side), and playing air guitar. On the other side of the stage was Matt and Ben, heads bobbing. Matt stood solidly, arms crossed, concentrating. Ben pulled off some classic 'Ben as Gumby' twirls. Mark (ST vox) proliferated, "This is not fucking RnR. This is genocide." (Huh?) Matt and Ben were laughing, nodding approvingly. I looked over at Chris to see if he understood this comment. He was motionless, then started the hand stroking his cheek thing (his usual thinking position). One Mississippi, Two Mississippi, Three Mississippi. Boom. He cracks up laughing. Then a HUGE five foot Lollapalooza beach ball makes its way onto the stage. Lee (ST guitar) stabs the thing mid-song. It explodes AROUND the guitar. The roadies are scrambling to get him an instrument. Matt and Ben are VERY entertained by this. Chris obviously had an obstructed view of the stage, so he shifted and craned until the dead balloon was dragged off-stage, into his view. He smiled and just shook his head. (Susan and Matt watched the Monks with amusement and respect.) ------------------------------------------------------------ Part 2 of SG set review. (FYI:The shirt comes off mid-set.) The soundman didn't adjust Chris's microphone properly. For both the 7/10 & 7/11 shows, Chris let out his introductory notes, but ended up swirling a wide-eyed 'What the fuck?' at the soundman when he realized he looked like a mime because every instrument (even singing fans) were louder than him. One song deteriorated into a kaclunk, cymbal smash, thump, that definitely caught Chris's attention. He drifted toward Matt's kit to give him the universal, 'What in hell are you thinking?' furrowed brow. As for the projectiles festival attendees have taken to flinging at the stage, Chris was just waiting to speak his frustration. He initiated some concert banter, 'You came to hear songs, right.' Then improvised a folksy (like Home, Home on the Range) song about a butterfly. Some people didn't get the humor. That's when Chris challenged them with, "What, you don't like my song? You want to throw something -- come up here and throw something. I'll fucking ram it down your throat." A local NY paper exaggerated that the confrontation almost ended the set. Bullshit. They seemed psyched about the challenge (and the cool fans who made the effort to be there). They interacted with us more than I'd ever seen and now realize that although we love the music, nobody wants to watch four stationary guys play really well. Fuck up. Spit on us. (Ben was smiling!) Stomp. We love it. I achieved front row for both shows. Kim did the rotating head, 'What should I have for dinner?' distant look as he noodled away in front of me. I got a nod. The guy next to me got the thumbs up. We would be able to die happy now, had we had actual lives. :) At the 7/11 show, it was Chris and his guitar...point blank. (Seth, did you see me? How drugged did I look?) I was stage left, Chris walked over with his guitar and stopped directly in front of me. Instinctively, I closed my eyes, tilted my head back (like Chris was the Sun and I was in need of a tan), smiled, extended my arms full length towards him, palms up...and swayed like a Florida palm tree. I realized I'd likely never see him this close again so I forced my eyes open -- only to discover him leaning deep into his guitar (basically hugging it and playing). His eyes were closed. My first instinct was right. My lids closed, cheeks smiled, arms extended, and finally my chin lifted until I let out a concert wail worthy of Chris himself. -Vikki :) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Randall's Island Review (Part 2) From: seth > For all who love to watch the guys when their just being RnR > fans, check out the side lines during the Screaming Trees & > the Ramones. More than likely, you'll see Matt, Chris, Kim, > Ben (and Susan), behind the scaffolding. Agreed. I saw Chris go up the stairs on the side of the stage to go to the viewing platform, which was, as Vikki said, behind a sheer black curtain. Doesn't seem to me that that's the best place to sit to enjoy the show. I know in earlier years, members of the main stage bands would frequently stand out in the audience... > there). They interacted with us more than I'd ever seen and > now realize that although we love the music, nobody wants to > watch four stationary guys play really well. Fuck up. Spit > on us. (Ben was smiling!) Stomp. We love it. This must have been during the 7/10 show. They weren't very lively on 7/11... but I guess Ben's in a good mood these days. When I saw him backstage, he turned and smiled and shook the security guard's hand before presumably going back to their bus or trailer or wherever they hang out when they're not watching the show. > At the 7/11 show, it was Chris and his > guitar...point blank. (Seth, did you see me? How drugged > did I look?) Sorry Vikki, didn't see you. I stayed behind the pit but was still close enough to see the band. How drugged out were you? :) seth ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: oops again!! << What do you mean it ISN'T the best thread? Don't you mean it IS the best thread? >> Yes... that was what I meant!! sorry I cant type well..( obviously!!) what I meant to say was this IS the best thread so far.... Sorry guys!!! ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: AHA!!! Ummm... I'm too fucking tired to go out and do anything destructive this evening, so I was just watching the 1994 MTV video music awards for like the 150 millionth time, and I noticed something new. Ok, most of you people are going to be like "Shroom, who gives a flying rats bootie?!?" But it surprised me, so I'm gonna post about it anyway. You know how at the very beginning of the show, Michael Jackson and Lisa Marie come out? Well, just before Michael starts talking, the camera shows them from an angle, and you can see part of the crowd, too. Everyone is standing up and applauding. I was just scanning everyone, and GUESS WHO STOOD UP?!? Yeppers, Chris Cornell... Mr. Anti-Michael Jackson, himself. He pops right up out of the crowd, and starts clapping like crazy. I saw Kim, too... but he didn't bother to get up. I didn't notice Susan Silver, but that doesn't mean that she wasn't there. It only shows them for a second, and then it goes back to "the Jacksons." Pretty fucked up, considering Chris supposedly despises Michael. Or was that a more recent development? Anyway... just thought I'd share all this with you. You're welcome. Shroom "Hey Shroom, wanna play 'Spank the Bad Rock Star' again?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Randall's Island Review (Part 2) first of all, thanks to vikki for such great, indepth reviews!! (and seth, yours was a HOOT!) ;-) At 11:48 PM 7/12/96 -0400, ansel@morgan.com wrote: > For all who love to watch the guys when their just being RnR > fans, check out the side lines during the Screaming Trees & > the Ramones. More than likely, you'll see Matt, Chris, Kim, > Ben (and Susan), behind the scaffolding. (Chris said they > will watch EVERY Ramones performance throughout the tour.) a man of impeccable taste. though, considering the set is EXACTLY the same as it was 20 years ago... i dunno. they played bumbershoot here last year and i didn't go, choosing to see patti smith instead, and the next day at breakfast i told my friends exactly how the ramones set was... without being there! and when i saw them a few weeks later opening for pearl jam in austin (hi shroomy!), again, i was calling the songs before they were played... on the other hand, we know this is it, so why not get your dose now... > solidly, arms crossed, concentrating. Ben pulled off some > classic 'Ben as Gumby' twirls. Mark (ST vox) proliferated, > "This is not fucking RnR. This is genocide." (Huh?) this quote is from the intro to "Diamond Dogs" by David Bowie. ;-) > Florida palm tree. I realized I'd likely never see him this > close again so I forced my eyes open -- only to discover him > leaning deep into his guitar (basically hugging it and > playing). His eyes were closed. My first instinct was > right. My lids closed, cheeks smiled, arms extended, and > finally my chin lifted until I let out a concert wail worthy > of Chris himself. -Vikki :) *sigh* thanks for sharing this, vikki. ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 182] ****************************************