From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 12 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 22:14:17 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 12 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu *** listadmin note: Sorry this is late, folks. I just got back from *** New York. -seth Today's Topics: Chris on sex and stuff... Reading '95 Re: 4th of July Re: 4th of July Randall's Island Lolla - 7/11/96 Chris Snags Quote of the Week Re: 4th of July Re: Chris Snags Quote of the Week I Want To Be A Cowboy Sweetheart!!! Re: Randall's Island Lolla - 7/11/96 Re: Reading '95 San Jose Lolla, anyone? burden in my hand video (for real!!) DOTU Japanese release OVERFLOATER Re: OVERFLOATER Re: DOTU Japanese release Re: 4th of July Re: DOTU Japanese release You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Re: burden in my hand video (for real!!) You know that you're obsessed with SG when... Can We Go Home Yet? Syracuse Lolla...HELP!!! chug-a-lug Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Re: Can We Go Home Yet? Pumpkins report.... (fwd) Surprise show??? Re: Surprise show??? Nothingman's phone number #2 Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... You know that you're obsessed with SG when... Re: Pumpkins report.... (fwd) Lolla Article & Show Times Overdue Apology Nothingman says... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Chris on sex and stuff... I transcribed this from an interview that took place in 1993. It was on those PJ Starr compilation tapes. Bear with me, I'm slightly unsober right now. For you stupid people, here is an explanation of who's talking: C is Chris, K is Kim, B is Ben, and Interviewer is some guy who has no face. C... I'd like to not, umm, have any sexual impulses. And not have to sleep. K... That'd be great. C... 'Cuz that would save like alot of time and, like umm, it would save alot of energy spent on things that aren't as important as other things. B... Eunich man! C... Yah, like guarding a bridge. No, you know like things I'd rather do, like writing music, and playing music, and hiding from the rest of the world. That would be fun. Interviewer... Do you find that you think about sex alot? C... Yah, all the time! Every day!! K... Enough to distract you. C... Which is really irratating. It's distracting. It also makes people like totally compromise their judgement and do like really stupid things. And uh, it's a battle to not do that. Not let that happen. Interviewer... Isn't that sort of fun in a way as well? C... I guess not! I thought it was rather interesting. Any speculations on it? E-mail me... Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell | |.| |.| |\./| "She drinkin' my JackDaniels |\./| and smokin' all my weed" .\ |\./| /. ~~Andy Wood, MLB \-.\ |\\.//| /.-/ \--./\ |\\.//| /\.--/ \--.| \ |\\.//| / |.--/ \---.|\ |\./| /|.---/ \--.|\ |\./| /|.--/ \ .\ |.| /. / _ -_- \ \\ // / -_- _ - -/_/_/- | | -\_\_\- - /_\ ------------------------------ From: Warren Dyson Subject: Reading '95 Hi there! Does anyone on the list in the UK have the Reading '95 bootleg of SG's set ? And more to the point, can I get a copy somehow ? Btw, anyone noticed that Chris Cornell seems to have a thing for 'hidden' lyrics ? Evidence :- The verse in Burden IMH, the line in FOBD when he sings 'Hands are for shaking etc..', and I'm sure there's some on Badmotorfinger too... Just a thought, Cheers, Warren. ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: 4th of July It's a shame no one involved with the movie thought of it. Go see the movie. It kicks ass. And sing 4th to yourself during the credits. It's a beautiful fit! Greg On Thu, 11 Jul 1996 melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net wrote: > Ok, i haven't seen ID4 yet, but here's just one quick thought: > > How fucking cool would it to be if they had SG's "4th of July" playing during > the opening credits when the spaceship passes overhead? Kinda like > anticipation, y'know? > > Gregg ------------------------------ Subject: Re: 4th of July From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > It's a shame no one involved with the movie thought of it. Go see the > movie. It kicks ass. And sing 4th to yourself during the credits. It's > a beautiful fit! > Greg > > Ok, i haven't seen ID4 yet, but here's just one quick thought: > How fucking cool would it to be if they had SG's "4th of July" playing > during the opening credits when the spaceship passes overhead? > Gregg You know how most people jump up and leave at the end of a movie when the credits are rolling, not me....I have this thing about watching them. It was great to sit in an empty theater with the ID4 credits rolling and hum SG's 4th. Of course the person I was with didn't know jackshit about SG and was annoyed that he had to stand there and wait for me. Like Greg I kept thinking, wouldn't it be great to have SG's 4th coming at you - loud. I do recommend you see the movie, it has great special effects, the actors really fit their roles, and it can deaden your senses (which right now is good for me), and stay during the credits - sing your heart out.. Jamie BTW: I also saw Twister last weekend... If you saw the movie, you know the first time they chase the tornado and each car has a different song playing.. I thought the spacy guy (one playing Deep Purple) should have had "Rusty Cage" on. It would have been a better fit. ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Randall's Island Lolla - 7/11/96 I was at the Randall's Island Lolla yesterday (I'll post a review as soon as possible. Good set, but only 55 minutes.) I'm going again today after work. I recommend we (who's going?) meet AFTER SG play. They hit the stage at exactly 8pm. They will finish no later than 9pm. Once your inside, you'll walk past the carnival. You'll make a left turn through many concession stands and finally end up at the 2nd and 3rd stages which are set up with only a few feet and a large balloon gorilla between them. Left of these stages is the entrance to Downing Stadium and the Main stage. As you begin to head into the stadium, BEFORE you hit any of the concession stands (on your right), and grass and trees (on your left), again, BEFORE you come to any of this, you will see a few tall black lamp posts. The meeting place my friends and I determined yesterday, was the ONLY pole that actually had a lamp on top. Seth, I'll try to get to the stadium by 6pm. If I'm not at the flag post at 6pm I'll meet you at 9pm. 'kay? If anyone wants to try to meet up with me before the SG set, obviously try the lamp post at 6pm or look for me at the front of the stage wearing a lime green short sleeve shirt and powder blue, light weight jeans. My picture is in the member directory (I have long brown curly hair). It was EXTREMELY easy to get front row for SG last night! If you need more details, my work phone is 1(800)223-2440 x7152. -Vikki On Wed, 10 Jul 1996, seth wrote: > > I guess noone is going to Randall's Island, that SUCKS!!! oh > > well.... > > I'm going, and I believe Vikki is going as well. I've never been to > Randall's Island, so I can't suggest a place to meet, but hopefully > people who went today will point out some landmarks... > > seth ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Chris Snags Quote of the Week At the July 10th Randall's Island Lollapalooza, Chris shared his thoughts..."What, you don't like my song? You want to throw something -- come up here and throw something. I'll fucking ram it down your throat." -Vikki (I'm very busy at work today, but I promise to get my full review to you guys ASAP.) ------------------------------ From: Ned Locke Subject: Re: 4th of July I was thinking the exact same thing about ID4! The song and the movie were perfect for each other! I heard it in the wind And I saw it in the sky. I thought it was the end. I thought it was the 4th of July. And that doesn't just go for the lyrics either, but the heavy riffs, etc... I wonder if they were either ignorant (they didn't know about the song) or just stupid (they didn't want the song) when they put the movie soundtrack together. What is on the soundtrack anyway? It's not listed on the back of the CD. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Chris Snags Quote of the Week From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > At the July 10th Randall's Island Lollapalooza, Chris shared > his thoughts..."What, you don't like my song? You want to > throw something -- come up here and throw something. I'll > fucking ram it down your throat." You know I really liked hearing Chris said this (maybe my state of mind needed it). But I have been enjoying the SG tapes Steven made for me and there are scenes where the crowd is throwing water bottles at the band.. Why do people throw shit at the stage and the bands.. It has always been that way. I have seen band members get hit with firecrackers and heavy glass bottles.. What is the mentality for this stupid act. If you don't like the song, the band, or just this performance - LEAVE, BOO, anything except throwing something. Worst case scenario you are a louse shot and hit some body in the crowd. I have seen a girl's hair catch fire, because someone toss a firecracker at the stage and it hit her instead. No wonder Ben gets freaked, I would too if I was on stage and some idiot belts me with an object. Why would anyone want to hit Ben with something, he puts on such a great show. I love watching him get spastic. Questions: At the end of every show that I have seen recorded, Kim leaves the stage last and he always does that crazy thing with his guitar. Now all you guitar players don't get crazy on me here, I'll try to explain it the best I can. He gets one high, loud note to keep going even after he walks away.. I know it has something to do with feedback - put how does he keep it going so long and is it considered a hard thing to do? Also, you that have been to Lolla this year, is he still doing this? Is this a Soundgarden trademark? Jamie ------------------------------ From: Gail Subject: I Want To Be A Cowboy Sweetheart!!! Hi y'all, I see nothing much has changed on the old Somms. Actually I'm writing to say that SG has made me do something I said I'd never do, and that's visit Texas. Well, SG and a certain gentleman in Dallas :-). Yeh, I had pretty much written Lolla off after the venue for Southern Cal (Irvine Meadows) was announced. Getting back and forth from the main stage and the second stage is going to be murder. I pity all those attending. Talk about teeny bopper haven. Not me! So I've been working on my Texan drawl, and my cowgirl swagger. Hey, do cowgirls have a swagger? Anyway, all you folks attending the Ferris, Lolla give me a hollar!! Gail ********************************************************************** "I love it! I love it! I love it! I love it!" Blueberry Johnson - The State ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re: Randall's Island Lolla - 7/11/96 Has anyone heard the song 'Karaoke' that was recorded for DOTU, but didn't make it on the record? It's supposed to be about all of the "grunge-by-numbers" bands. The reference to Bush's 'everything Zen' reminded me of this. Later, Taylor ------------------------------ From: cynsir@village.ios.com Subject: Re: Reading '95 Warren Dyson wrote: > > Hi there! > > Does anyone on the list in the UK have the Reading '95 bootleg of SG's set ? > And more to the point, can I get a copy somehow ? > > Btw, anyone noticed that Chris Cornell seems to have a thing for 'hidden' > lyrics ? Evidence :- The verse in Burden IMH, the line in FOBD when he sings > 'Hands are for shaking etc..', and I'm sure there's some on Badmotorfinger > too... > > Just a thought, > Cheers, > Warren. Excellent point. What are the misising lyrics in, "Overfloater", the two lines before "Hold the potion up. Tear your shadow down. Remember to forget and then rename your shame." ? Love, Cyn ------------------------------ From: The Guitarist-2001 Subject: San Jose Lolla, anyone? I was curious, is ANYBODY going to the San Jose Lollapalooza? I'm considering going, except financial problems (including the rather surprisingly high price of tickets, it seems...) are slowing me down . . . but I thought if anyone else was going that I could meet or anything, it MIGHT be worth it to drive myself broke to go . . . I haven't heard anyone talking about it, so/but I thought I'd just give it a shot . . . The Guitarist-2001 "So tear me open but beware There's things inside without a care And the hate stains me So hold me, until it sleeps" - Until it Sleeps, Metallica, Load (lyrics may be wrong, I just had the tune stuck in my head) ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Rick Agrait) Subject: burden in my hand video (for real!!) just went to the 120 minutes site (http://www.mtv.com/music/120min/) and it said that the Burden In My Hand video will premiere this Sunday!! It's the first video in the list of videos that will premiere so that means it will be the first one to be on. Look for the Burden In My Hand video Sunday Night/Monday morning from 12am to 12:30am it should be on in b/w those times!! anybody (seth?) know anything about this?? Is Mr. Kozik once again the director?? anyways just thought id let you pplz know. :) - -Raul approximately only 3 days and one hour and 12 minutes till the Burden In My Hand Video!! ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: DOTU Japanese release Digging in a record magazine during lunch at work I saw a Down On The Upside cd from Japan that claims to have an extra track. It was listed something to the effect of: Soundgarden - Down On The Upside + 1 (J) - $25.99. I think that was the price... but anyway... does ANYONE have an idea what this extra track may be? I wish we had a few SOMMS-folks entrenched in Japanese soil... doing what he wants, ray (c: ------------------------------ From: cynsir@village.ios.com Subject: OVERFLOATER Anybody else get this way with tunes .. I've just listened to "Overfloater" about a dozen or times straight. I did the same thing with "4th of July" a year or so back. WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME?! I'm not even stoned so I have no excuse. Just wanted to share that with y'all. LOUDLY, Cyn xo ------------------------------ From: erin@planet.eon.net Subject: Re: OVERFLOATER >Anybody else get this way with tunes .. I've just listened to >"Overfloater" about a dozen or times straight. I did the same thing >with "4th of July" a year or so back. WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME?! I'm >not even stoned so I have no excuse. Just wanted to share that with >y'all. I listened to Ty Cobb over and over for about an hour or two once. Okay, I've done that more than once. Everyone else in my house is sick of it, but I'm not... Erin. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: DOTU Japanese release I have a feeling this might be the DOTU + Interview disc that i read about in a latest issue of iCE (international cd exchange, a mag for cd collectors). if so, this is an excellent price, because i saw the interview cd alone last weekend running anywhere from $40-60. i'm off to the record store in redmond this weekend, i'll ask them about this one.... At 11:33 PM 7/11/96 -0400, UnknMan@aol.com wrote: >Digging in a record magazine during lunch at work I saw a Down On The Upside >cd from Japan that claims to have an extra track. It was listed something to >the effect of: Soundgarden - Down On The Upside + 1 (J) - $25.99. I think >that was the price... but anyway... does ANYONE have an idea what this extra >track may be? I wish we had a few SOMMS-folks entrenched in Japanese soil... > > >doing what he wants, >ray (c: > > ------------------------------ From: sbrat@micron.net (Sean Bratnober) Subject: Re: 4th of July >Ok, i haven't seen ID4 yet, but here's just one quick thought: > >How fucking cool would it to be if they had SG's "4th of July" playing during >the opening credits when the spaceship passes overhead? Kinda like >anticipation, y'know? > >Gregg That would be a really cool idea but not in this movie. Your heart's in the right place, but if the band ever did that they would lose some of my respect because the movie's really cheesy. I don't know that's what I thought, and I'm one of the few. The special effects were really cool and they were worth the three bucks I payed at bargain price, but the script was HORRIBLE and I found myself sitting there with my jaw wide open as the audience cheered every little one-liner. Man, Will Smith said "Shit!" and people cheered. My guess is that when the aliens came the first people they killed were the writers of this movie. Hope you don't mind my fuming about this movie, I'm just really pissed off about it because I hear so many people comparing it to Star Wars and some actually think it's BETTER. Come on, People!!! You insult the makers of those fine movies by comparing the two. I'll probably catch some flames for this, but I'm holding my fire extinguisher just in case. Sean ------------------------------ From: Jaime Gonzalez Subject: Re: DOTU Japanese release I saw this ad in Goldmine.It advertized 1 extra track and next to that it said 16 trks.that is how many are on the USA release,So,I am confused about that one. Gonzo At 11:33 PM 7/11/96 -0400, you wrote: >Digging in a record magazine during lunch at work I saw a Down On The Upside >cd from Japan that claims to have an extra track. It was listed something to >the effect of: Soundgarden - Down On The Upside + 1 (J) - $25.99. I think >that was the price... but anyway... does ANYONE have an idea what this extra >track may be? I wish we had a few SOMMS-folks entrenched in Japanese soil... > > >doing what he wants, >ray (c: > > Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: SOMMS@aol.com Subject: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... Is anyone out there aware of an "You Know You're Obsessed With Soundgarden When....." list?? If not, I think it would be a nice addition to the Unofficial page--what do you guys think? If ppl are interested, I don't mind compiling a list and getting it ready for Seth....just let me know. "You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you buy the soundtrack just "for that one song", even though you already have it on two other CD's." ~Flutter~ ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: Re: burden in my hand video (for real!!) At 10:50 PM 7/11/96 EDT, you wrote: >just went to the 120 minutes site (http://www.mtv.com/music/120min/) and it >said that the Burden In My Hand video will premiere this Sunday!! It's the Actually they are announcing the premier of Soundgarden's "Burden in My HEAD" video. Hmm, I don't remember this being on DOTU. Maybe that's the extra track on the Japanese release? :) Nate ------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: You know that you're obsessed with SG when... hmmm...here are a couple of my additions... - -u know your obsessed with CC when u listen to Big Dumb Sex thinking he is talking to u and only u - -u know ur obessed with SG when u spend more money on sg merchandise and going to Lolla than you make in one year of working - -u know ur obesses with SG when u know the whole family tree of all 4 members of the band srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Can We Go Home Yet? Just heard how SG and CC aren't real happy with the whole Lolla experience. Gee... how did we know that? CC said they're used to playing to more of an angst ridden crowd and at Lolla they've been playing to a more happy, head-banging crowd, just there to see Metallica. Also, they're not happy with the parking situation. Their bus has to be parked behind the FOUR Metallica buses. The deejays were cool here, going off a little and saying Metallica can't even walk in SG's shoes and that their heads are so big each member has to have their own tour bus to hold all their...."stuff." I was a little nervous, thinking they were gonna say something like SG were so disgusted they weren't gonna play the rest of the Lolla tour. I would have been so disappointed if, after finally getting psyched up about going, they would cancel. Side note in same news clip: a back up singer for Smashing Pumpkins was found dead, suspected drug overdose. They're supposed to play Seattle August 15, but it's presumed this would not change their plans. A comment on the flashing, hootchie, woo girl types. Yeah, that girl at the Showbox totally and absolutely disgusted me! She was doing all these contortions throughout the entire show and every time I was looking that way, checking out Kim or whatever, there she was waving and acting like she was the star and she had the best seat and all the rest of us were poor losers or something. Her attitude and behavior was revolting and I tried to avoid looking that way, just because of her and how asinine and ludicrous I thought she was being. Really, she was *that* bad. It's Friday, gonna be in the 90's here in Western Washington. Amazing weather for us! I'm getting pretty excited for Lolla now, listening to DOTU last night and some songs just gave me the chills, even in our little heatwave. And Caryn, let me know what you hear on people wanting to meet up at the Gorge! Later! Bonnie (the deejays are still trashing Metallica and their 4 buses, and SG only has one and they are a *far better* band! Can't tell these are hometown guys;) ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Syracuse Lolla...HELP!!! I wanna go, but I'd like to meet up with any fellow SOMMSERS -- PLEASE call me at 1(800)223-2440 x7152 or (718) 251-1049. -Vikki STEVE, DID YOU LEAVE YET? YOU DIDN'T DID YOU! AAUUGGHH!! ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: chug-a-lug > > and ben would probly rip her head off and > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > use it as a beer pitcher if that girl tried that on him :) hehe :) > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > may i nominate this as our new Quote of the Week? seconded, anyone? second. that evokes some serious mental images that are quite disturbing, to say the least, but also damn funny. > (and yes, i'm still here. thanks for the nice email messages... i'm not > going anywhere until they drag me away... ;-) ) good. it wouldn't be the same without ya, caryn.. later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when someone announces that Soundgarden sucks, and you take it as a personal insult. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you get completely overexcited and happy every time you hear one of their songs on the radio... even though you have the CD and you've already heard the song 50 billion times. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you spend the majority of your free time reading messages from the SG mailing list. - - You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you see a picture of him, and you get an overpowering urge to lick the paper it's printed on. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when people start introducing you as "the Soundgarden freak," instead of by your name. - - You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you realize that 500 people you've never met before know it, too. (Not to mention the band.) - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you're willing to spend several hours arguing with a bunch of drunk cowboys over who is the better band, SG or Metallica. - - You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you start digitizing pictures of certain parts of his... ummm... anatomy. - - You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you start writing to the person who's digitizing pictures of Chris Cornell's anatomy, and requesting the pictures be sent to you IMMEDIATELY. - - You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you start writing to other obsessed people about what kind of toothpaste the man uses. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you realize that almost EVERYTHING you do is set to SG's music. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you lose your voice from trying (and failing miserably) to sing along with the music, and match Chris' vocals note for note. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you start quoting SG lyrics to people in everyday conversation. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when your friends tell you that every single time they hear or see anything even remotely connected with SG, they immediately think of you. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you hear something about a rock star dying, and your heart stops and you can't breathe until you find out it's not anyone from SG. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you get into a sticky situation, and you think to yourself "What would (Chris, Matt, Kim, Ben) do about this?" Pick whichever member of the band is appropriate for the particular situation. - - You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you hear someone messing up the lyrics to any given SG song, and you feel like bitch-slapping the person. "She lived like her mother but she died... just like suicide." AAAUUUGGGHHHH!!! Ok... I know this post was waaaaay too long, but I'm at work and severely bored. This is definitely a great thread, though!! Can't wait to hear what everyone else has to say about it! Shroom "Hey Shroomy... wanna touch my again?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Can We Go Home Yet? On Fri, 12 Jul 1996 COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu wrote: > Just heard how SG and CC aren't real happy with the whole Lolla > experience. Gee... how did we know that? CC said they're used to > playing to more of an angst ridden crowd and at Lolla they've been > playing to a more happy, head-banging crowd, just there to see > Metallica. THEN WHY THE FUCK DID THEY AGREE TO DO THIS TOUR????!!!!! what the HELL did they THINK the audience would be like? didn't they learn anything from the GNR experience??? i thought they did. i refuse to believe that the guys in sg are that out of touch with what is going on that they would not know what a typical metallica audience is like! the other thing is, don't they realize that this is going to change what the typical *soundgarden* audience is like in future? they're getting exposed to the whole metallica crowd, some of whom will probably get turned onto sg and then start going to their shows, turning it into a testsosterone-fest.... > I was a little nervous, thinking they were gonna say something like SG > were so disgusted they weren't gonna play the rest of the Lolla tour. > I would have been so disappointed if, after finally getting psyched up > about going, they would cancel. contracturally i don't think they can do that, pissed or no. they are #2 on the bill, and ticketbuyers could legitmately ask for refunds if sg wasn't on the bill, claiming they only bought tickets to see them. i know i would! ;-) > A comment on the flashing, hootchie, woo girl types. Yeah, that girl > at the Showbox totally and absolutely disgusted me! She was doing all > these contortions throughout the entire show and every time I was > looking that way, checking out Kim or whatever, there she was waving > and acting like she was the star and she had the best seat and all the > rest of us were poor losers or something. Her attitude and behavior > was revolting and I tried to avoid looking that way, just because of > her and how asinine and ludicrous I thought she was being. Really, she > was *that* bad. thanks bonnie, couldn't have said it better myself! ;-) and NEXT time you're hearing cool shit like this on KISW, *call me* ;-P ;-) - --caryn waiting to h ear from vikki and seth to make sure everyone is okay.... ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Pumpkins report.... (fwd) i know this isn't sg related, but fuck it, i'm pissed and angry... and seht's not here to yell at me, what the hell... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:02:11 -0700 Subject: Pumpkins report.... This is from Reuter. Earlier report also from Reuter said it was a heroin overdose. Draw your own conclusions.... NEW YORK (Reuter) -- Police arrested the drummer of the rock band Smashing Pumpkins and questioned other members Friday after one of the group's backup members was found dead of an apparent drug overdose in a hotel room, police said. A police spokeswoman said the body of keyboard player Jonathan Melvoin, 34, was found at the Regency Hotel on Park Avenue at 4.15 a.m. EDT. Jimmy Chamberlain, who police say made the emergency call, was charged with criminal possession of a controlled substance. It was not clear if the charge was releated to Melvoin's death in any way. A half-dozen members of the Smashing Pumpkins' touring contingent, including group leader Billy Corgan, their manager, musicians and stage hands, were questioned about Melvoin's death. The group is in the seventh month of a 200-show, yearlong tour that included venues in Europe, Asia, Australia and the Americas. The group is from Chicago and its lyrics often deal with disconnected feelings, alienation and confusion. Its concerts at Madison Square Garden scheduled for Friday and Saturday nights, and Sunday night at the New Jersey Meadowlands were postponed. - -- "The artist has to exploit his disillusionment, for Art is a form of hope in which there is no hope" - Ramon Gomez de la Serna ------------------------------ From: Sherry Jennings Subject: Surprise show??? I'm trying not to get my hopes up too high. I heard a RUMOR that there may be a Lollapalooser show coming to Reno? Is that true? Someone mentioned Aug. 2. Can anyone put my mind to rest...I refuse to get my hopes up. I really don't think Reno could get its act together that quickly for a show of that size. I would much prefer a small venue, but I will settle for the circus atmosphere if I must. Anything to catch them on stage. (No, not anything to catch a fatal disease from Chris--just kidding.) If anyone has heard about it or knows for sure that my friend is being a shit for telling me that...drop me a note. Thanks, Sherry p.s. Caryn, please don't tell me to check the list again. I've already heard the sermon. And yes, I read the mail daily if your wondering. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Surprise show??? On Fri, 12 Jul 1996, Sherry Jennings wrote: > I heard a RUMOR that there may be a Lollapalooser show coming to Reno? Is > that true? Someone mentioned Aug. 2. August 2 Lolla is in San Jose. the show has been announced and they're selling tickets, though it isn't sold out. so i doubt it. - --Caryn ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Nothingman's phone number #2 Thanks Greg, Tonerkin, Caryn, Liesl, and Overfloater, I recently gave out the number to Eric Gardner. He has dealt with Nothingman in mail and e-mail before and seemed to be interested in the list and being polite about it. That was great Caryn to offer to send me a card, but I didn't want to be the one. Let's all hope for the best. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Panic, all hell breaks loose A battered body screams abuse A plastic bullet ends his youth A motherless son turns and pukes" ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when someone announces that SH>Soundgarden sucks, and you take it as a personal insult. Been there :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you get completely SH>overexcited and happy every time you hear one of their songs on the radio... SH>even though you have the CD and you've already heard the song 50 billion SH>times. Been there :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you spend the majority of SH>your free time reading messages from the SG mailing list. Been there :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you see a picture of him, SH>and you get an overpowering urge to lick the paper it's printed on. Umm no not me :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when people start introducing yo SH>as "the Soundgarden freak," instead of by your name. Yeah! But I was more widely known as the Soundgarden chick SH>- You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you realize that 500 SH>people you've never met before know it, too. (Not to mention the band.) Yep :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you're willing to spend SH>several hours arguing with a bunch of drunk cowboys over who is the better SH>band, SG or Metallica. Never been there :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you start digitizing SH>pictures of certain parts of his... ummm... anatomy. Nope :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you start writing to the SH>person who's digitizing pictures of Chris Cornell's anatomy, and requesting SH>the pictures be sent to you IMMEDIATELY. Been there :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you start writing to othe SH>obsessed people about what kind of toothpaste the man uses. Yeah, But i'm more concerned with his fabric softener. SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you realize that almost SH>EVERYTHING you do is set to SG's music. Yup yup =) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you lose your voice from SH>trying (and failing miserably) to sing along with the music, and match Chris SH>vocals note for note. Wow.. do you have ESPN? SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you start quoting SG lyrics SH>to people in everyday conversation. Hehe :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when your friends tell you that SH>every single time they hear or see anything even remotely connected with SG, SH>they immediately think of you. HEhe.. "Hey Erin, I heard on the radio this morning." I hear that ALL the time :) SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you hear something about a SH>rock star dying, and your heart stops and you can't breathe until you find SH>out it's not anyone from SG. Been there too SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you get into a sticky SH>situation, and you think to yourself "What would (Chris, Matt, Kim, Ben) do SH>about this?" Pick whichever member of the band is appropriate for the SH>particular situation. Heheheh SH>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you hear someone messing up SH>the lyrics to any given SG song, and you feel like bitch-slapping the person SH> "She lived like her mother but she died... just like suicide." SH> AAAUUUGGGHHHH!!! Been there, done that, pass the beer nuts. ------------------------------ From: Lightning Boy Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... >Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 16:35:36 >To: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com >From: Lightning Boy >Subject: Re: You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when..... > >At 02:10 PM 7/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you lose your voice from >>trying (and failing miserably) to sing along with the music, and match Chris' >>vocals note for note. >> >>- You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you hear someone messing up >>the lyrics to any given SG song, and you feel like bitch-slapping the person. >> "She lived like her mother but she died... just like suicide." >> AAAUUUGGGHHHH!!! >> >> Ok... I know this post was waaaaay too long, but I'm at work and >>severely bored. This is definitely a great thread, though!! Can't wait to >>hear what everyone else has to say about it! >> >> Shroom >> > >These two really hit it on the head!! The only thing is, I just fail, not miserably, because I can still get a couple of high notes. And the lyrics thing, that really pisses me off when it's anyone's song (can you tell, I run the AIC lyrics page!! Check it out!!) I'd rather rip their tounge out, than bitch-slap them, but whatever floats your boat!! > .__ .__ .__ __ .__ __________ | | |__| ____ | |___/ |_ ____ |__| ____ ____ \______ \ ____ ___.__. | | | |/ ___\| | \ __\/ \| |/ \ / ___\ | | _// _ < | | | |_| / /_/ > | \ | | | \ | | \/ /_/ > | | ( <_> )___ | |____/__\___ /|___| /__| |___| /__|___| /\___ / |______ /\____// ____| /_____/ \/ \/ \//_____/ \/ \/ aka Eric Bonus lightning@ag.net Keeper of the "New Complete AIC Lyrics Songbook" (Now in version 3.0! (HTML!!)) http://www.ag.net/~lightning/aic/lyrics/ ------------------------------ From: LeMoN JeLLo Subject: You know that you're obsessed with SG when... - ---You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you spend hours at the computer typing up a Soundgarden article JUST to get your name on the Unofficial Soundgarden Webpage. - ---You know you're obsessed with Soundgarden when you tell EVERYONE that your name is on the Unofficial Soundgarden Webpage. - ---You know you're obsessed with Chris Cornell when you do a double take at everyone with black hair and a goatee. - ---You know you're obsessed with SG when your whole family takes turns screaming for you to come down for dinner, but you dont hear them because you are listening to Soundgarden too loud. - ---You know you are obsessed with SG when you say to someone, "I know everything about Soundgarden, ask me anything." THIS ONES FROM MY MOM----You know you are obsessed with SG when you listen to your daughter's SG CD 4 times in a row and afterwards realize that you are 42. ------------------------------ From: HOLMEST@198.81.231.2.dstm.com Subject: Re: Pumpkins report.... (fwd) Damn, Heroin is killer. How many lives is this drug going to take before people stop thinking it's "cool"? Geez. Taylor ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Pumpkins report.... (fwd) Author: caryn rose at Internet Date: 7/12/96 5:13 PM i know this isn't sg related, but fuck it, i'm pissed and angry... and seht's not here to yell at me, what the hell... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 12 Jul 1996 12:02:11 -0700 Subject: Pumpkins report.... This is from Reuter. Earlier report also from Reuter said it was a heroin overdose. Draw your own conclusions.... NEW YORK (Reuter) -- Police arrested the drummer of the rock band Smashing Pumpkins and questioned other members Friday after one of the group's backup members was found dead of an apparent drug overdose in a hotel room, police said. A police spokeswoman said the body of keyboard player Jonathan Melvoin, 34, was found at the Regency Hotel on Park Avenue at 4.15 a.m. EDT. Jimmy Chamberlain, who police say made the emergency call, was charged with criminal possession of a controlled substance. It was not clear if the charge was releated to Melvoin's death in any way. A half-dozen members of the Smashing Pumpkins' touring contingent, including group leader Billy Corgan, their manager, musicians and stage hands, were questioned about Melvoin's death. The group is in the seventh month of a 200-show, yearlong tour that included venues in Europe, Asia, Australia and the Americas. The group is from Chicago and its lyrics often deal with disconnected feelings, alienation and confusion. Its concerts at Madison Square Garden scheduled for Friday and Saturday nights, and Sunday night at the New Jersey Meadowlands were postponed. - -- "The artist has to exploit his disillusionment, for Art is a form of hope in which there is no hope" - Ramon Gomez de la Serna ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Lolla Article & Show Times This is the SG article from the 'Lollapalooza '96 Magazine'. -Vikki :) ------------------------------------------------------------ 'Down On The Upside' is the title of Soundgarden's fifth album. Upon listening to the album, rock critics (and other people with too much time on their hands) may be spending hours theorizing on a supposed "hidden meaning" of the title, and using words like "progressing" and "maturing" to define where the band's heads are at right now. And the thought of all that drives guitarist Kim Thayil up the wall. "When I hear that word 'maturing,' I think of it as meaning 'more marketable.' Does that mean that by 'maturing' you can't be aggressive? Our records are just broken down into subsets of songs: songs we write, ones we learn how to play and ones we decide to record. And that has nothing to do with predicting the style or the direction of the band at that time. I think there's a certain style of heaviness in what we do, but it doesn't necessarily have to be loud, fast and aggressive." And he's right. 'Down's' sixteen tracks are diverse in execution and texture. For every laid-back summer-night groove like the one on "Dusty," there's the maniacal "Ty Cobb" and "Never The Machine Forever," or the transcendent "Applebite." It's as diverse as 1994's 'Superunknown', which made a lot of people's heads swivel at the band's versatility. And when you consider that Soundgarden's early audiences consisted of punks, metalheads, black-clad goth fans as well as the archetypal flannel-clad Seattle grunge rocker, it's fairly obvious that the band calls the shots, and no one else. Thayil and bandmates Chris Cornell, Ben Shepherd and Matt Cameron originally played Lollapalooza's second year, and are the first band to ever play the festival twice. It was the quartet's wish that the Ramones and Seattle compatriots the Screaming Trees be invited onto the bill. Thayil thinks that the metal-versus-punk dichotomy is a press-generated attempt to pigeonhole the event. "The fans that go to Lollapalooza are generally white 18- to 24-year-olds that tend to have the same social experiences. What is different is that they exist in different kinds of subcultures. But they have more in common than everyone thinks. People don't like us because we're too alternative, and some people don't like us because we're too metal. Music means different things to different people. Some people find it a tertiary thing in their life or even less. If you want to start calling people sell-outs, grow up," he laughs. "And mature.!" ------------------------------------------------------------ Q: Who's your favorite Second Stage act? Kim: "The Melvins. They had a profound effect on the Seattle music scene. Satchel is the band we'd most likely go out drinking with." Q: Whose tour bus smells the worst? Kim: "Probably us because we'll have the sweatiest socks and the most beer damage." Q: What's your favorite form of male bonding? Kim: "Public farting and frequent use of the c-word." ------------------------------------------------------------ For Lolla-goers who'd like to plan ahead...(& for Carolyn) MAIN STAGE IF START TIME 1pm IF START TIME 2pm (duh) Psychotica 1:00 2:00 Screaming Trees 1:50 2:50 Shaolin Monks 2:45 3:45 Rancid 3:35 4:35 The Ramones 4:35 5:35 Mystery Act 5:45 6:45 SOUNDGARDEN 7:00 8:00 Metallica 8:30 9:30 ------------------------------------------------------------ SECOND STAGE 1st LEG You Am I 12:40 1:40 Cornershop 1:50 2:50 Ruby 3:00 4:00 Ben Folds Five 4:10 5:10 Girls Against Boys 5:20 6:20 Beth Hart Band 6:30 7:30 2nd LEG (from 7/18) Fireside Jonny Polonsky see see Satchel above above Melvins times times Sponge Soul Coughing ------------------------------------------------------------ THIRD STAGE 1st LEG Capsize 7 1:15 2:15 Lutefisk 2:25 3:25 Moonshake 3:35 4:35 Chune 4:45 5:45 Shaolin Monks* 5:40 6:40 2nd LEG (from 7/18) Crumb Varnaline Thirty Ought Six see see Long Fin Killie above above Cows times times Shaolin Monks* *Main Stage monks perform acrobatics, Third Stage monks are contortionists Be safe, enjoy the show. :) ------------------------------ From: Sherry Jennings Subject: Overdue Apology To all of you devoted readers of the digest...I want to clear up something I said before. In asking about a possible surprise show in Reno, I ended my post with a nasty comment to caryn. Caryn, which most of you know, is one of the most helpful people on the mailing list. She was not deserving of my unwarranted attack. I wanted to apologize! Thanks again for your help-- Sherry ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: Nothingman says... that the shirts are in his possession and he will begin posting them soon. Maybe sooner now that he got a phone call straight from left field.:) He said that after the artwork problem (that Seth fixed) the shirt guy got backed up. He did sound somewhat apologetic, and I believe he was sincere. He said he was not trying to rip anybody off and I tried to tactfully explain that people are concerned, but nobody is branding him a thief. I also asked about his net access and mentioned that some people on the list were concerned for him, and hoped he would return. He said he was hopeful he would return soon. "Let's all hope for the best" - McCheese Eric ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 181] ****************************************