From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 9 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 09 Jul 1996 03:43:00 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 9 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Rusty Cage and Ross Perot =P Burden interpretations according to me.... sg giveaway #4 Re: sg shirts at lolla sg shirts at lolla Re: MTV & Soundgarden at Lolla Lolla at the Gorge Re: sg shirts at lolla sg giveaway #4 burden in my basement... ;-) Burden revisited... Long post Beware!!! Re: Motorvision Re: Extra Lyrics . . . fork????? Re: Lollapalooza Questions-Cds & Shirts Can't find a B.b.b.b.b. Nothingman. Re: burden in my basement... Re: Lolla at the Gorge Re: Can't find a B.b.b.b.b. Nothingman. SoundGarden Re: Can't find a B.b.b.b.b. Nothingman. BIMH and Chris' birthday Re: Lolla at the Gorge (fwd) Re: answers / questions / comments / dirty laundry / window cleaner shirts and stuff CHRIS/AIDS ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "stella" Subject: Rusty Cage and Ross Perot =P > At 02:18 PM 7/7/96 -0700, S. Mohanty wrote: > >I'm going to the Lolla in Charlestown, West VA on the 16th and heard > >hat that under one of the tents they're selling almost every SG CD ever > >released including the singles. Did anyone see any BMF CD singles like > >Rusty Cage, Jesus Christ Pose, or Outshined? > > oh god... i saw all of those today at the record fair... prices $4 to $9... > and rejected them all (except rusty cage because i like the [hot] photo of > chris on the cover {HI SHROOMIE!!!} I have the rusty cage 12" single but not the CD single. Is it that one where they're all green? The one I have is where the guys are like drenched in this green light. That's such a cool cover. I should get it scanned if it's not already. On another note: Someone, I think Ray, (if not I'm sorry) said that on the mumbling heard in Bootcamp, that they heard the words taxes and inflation, ect. I hear the same stuff. I swear to god that someone (either on the list or on alt.music.soundgarden) said it was a Ross Perot speach. Well I kind of think that's right, but um..what I think it is is Dana Carvey's impression of Perot, when he did those impressions on SNL. Weird huh? I tried to mess around with the balance on my speakers and just solo out the mumblings but I couldn't. I got close though. And I swear it sounds like Dana. Maybe I'm just hearing things. Oh well, the pschitzophrenic stella Visit the Stupid Poem Library! srogers@fix.net http://www.fix.net/~srogers "Not only is life a bitch, but its always having puppies" ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Burden interpretations according to me.... Howdy everyone, Okay, my interpretation for BIMH is as follows: I think it's about abusive relationships. For example, in the first 4 lines, it says, "Follow me into the desert/ As thirsty as you are/ Crack a smile and cut your mouth/ And drown in alcohol." Many times, in abusive relationships, the victimized individual stays with the malefactor and will do anything to please them, despite the consequences. Like following someone into the desert in a thirsty state, it would be detrimental, if not suicidal. And, the statement of crack a smile and cut your mouth, is moving towards the violent or abusive nature of such relationships when the person isn't fully pleased. And of course, alcohol is not only an irritant to the "cut mouth" but an escape as well. The Chorus: "I shot my love today would you cry for me/ I lost my head again would you lie for me/ I left her in the sand just a burden in my hand/ I lost my head again would you cry for me." It's pretty clear in the first line, shooting someone is basically an attempt to either kill them or cause serious injury, would you cry for me is in some respect asking for gratification. "I lost my head again" is basically asking for some sort of forgiveness, or an excuse for the abusive action, and "would you lie for me" is asking them to hide it for you. It's like when someone who has been battered, says in response to their injuries, "I fell down the stairs" instead of saying," My husband/wife beat me." "I left her in the sand" is a reference to the follow me into the desert line, meaning, he left her in the desert after she followed him there, because it was too much work for him to try to make things work, or try to be civil. And the "Burden in my hand" could also mean that the "love" is shown through the hand in violence, and is tiresome. "I lost my head again would you cry for me" used again indicates a repeating pattern. Repeating abusive actions is more often than not the de regle. "Close your eyes and bow your head/ I need a little sympathy/ Cause fear is strong and love's for everyone/ Who isn't me." Closing eyes and bowing of the head is showing trust, respect, and honor. Many bow their heads and close their eyes when they prey, which would show a reverence to the abusive partner in this context. "I need a little sympathy" means that the abusor wants the abusee to be in agreement or harmony with his/her feelings. "Cause fear is strong and love's for everyone" Fear is a great motivator, it can drive people to do things they normally wouldn't consider. And "love's for everyone" is saying, I have a right to be this way, this is for everyone. And the fact that "Who isn't me" is after the previous verse, shows an afterthought, or maybe an interjection either on Chris's part, or in the mind of the abusor. Anyway, it shows that abusive actions really aren't a part of love, but they happen none the less. The next lines: "So kill your health and kill yourself/ And kill everything you love/ And if you live you can fall to pieces/ And suffer with my ghost." Kill your health and kill yourself is saying that by being in the abusive relationship you not only are leading an unhealty lifestyle, but you are going to kill yourself by doing so. And people in this position often want to kill themselves and "everything you love." We hear all too often of tortured individuals committing murder/suicides. They lock themselves and their children in the garage with the car running, or they show up at home early from work with a shotgun, and blast away. And we also see that sometimes the person who is trying to kill everything they love do, but don't succeed in killing themselves. This just happened here not too long ago and the guy is now up for sentencing. So they have to live with the "ghosts" or memories of their dead family or "loved" ones. And in doing so, they literally fall to pieces. Closing lines: "Just a burden in my hand/ Just an anchor on my heart/ Just a tumor in my head/ And I'm in the dark." As previously stated, "burden in my hand" could mean that the weight of the relationship is carried in the hands that are used to show abuse. Interestingly, in mining, burden means the earth or rock to be removed by a charge of explosives. Some who are abusive, often do "blow up" or "go off" on the other persons involved. "An anchor on my heart" would mean weighing down ones spirit, or center of emotion. And, "a tumor in my head" could be very threatening if not taken care of. But the abusive individual has very low regard for themselves and the others involved, as is indicated by the "Just" at the begining of each line. "And I'm in the dark" would symbolize being ignorant to what is happening both on the physical plane, and the spiritual, or emotional. This is just my take on the song, but only Chris knows exactly what is meant by these lyrics. But this is what it means to me, and art has different meanings to different people. And for a person to actually own a piece of music, instead of renting it from a plastic disc, it has to have a meaning to them. Just a thought, Aaron ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: sg giveaway #4 On the block this time is a red vinyl Pretty Noose 7" single, serial #2219. There is a catch this time...to enter you must include a list of sg songs that you feel would make a good bicycling tape. My commute to work is about an hour, so 60 minutes worth of songs would be good, 90 minutes would be better (a change for the ride home, eh?). As always, the drawing will be a random event, and this time it will be conducted sometime in the evening of Wednesday, 10 July, here on the US west coast. Sponsored by the makers of whatever I was drinking when I had this idea.:) Eric ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: sg shirts at lolla > speaking of shirts. What have we decided about nothingman? Are we waiting > for him to reappear? Have we written off that $10-$30 that a lot of us spent? > Perhaps someone who lives near "Friendsville" could pay our man a visit. > Actually, I miss my money a lot less than I miss Nothingman. Hell, he can > keep my money if he'll just come back to the list. > -- Ben > Last I heard, he was going to the Charles Town, WV show. I guess Jamie and I will have to track him down there. Anyone know what he looks like? Or do we just have to guess who the real NM is? Greg ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: sg shirts at lolla The shirts at lolla were generally priced at $23. some guy was selling one style of shirt outside (not sold inside, leading me to believe he was an "independent manufacturer") for $15. That one was a general concert shirt with soundgarden receiving second billing to the M-word (as do all the other general lolla shirts). I'm pretty sure there were only two straight soundgarden shirts. One was black with the DOTU cover on it and a list of tour dates on the back. The other was gray with a black & white picasso-like, dualistic drawing centered on the front (it looked familiar, I may have seen it on other sg stuff. anyone know what I'm talking about?) and tourdates on the back as well. The first one was boring since I have the cd and don't really need something else with that picture on it. (I have the digipack, two liner notes, the vinyl, and a poster . . . I see those silhouettes in my dreams). The second seemed to tenuously linked to soundgarden to justify the expense, though it was a cool-looking shirt. speaking of shirts. What have we decided about nothingman? Are we waiting for him to reappear? Have we written off that $10-$30 that a lot of us spent? Perhaps someone who lives near "Friendsville" could pay our man a visit. Actually, I miss my money a lot less than I miss Nothingman. Hell, he can keep my money if he'll just come back to the list. -- Ben Ben Timberlake "My friends are lying in the Northwestern University sun, I wish that I was them." Medill School of Journalism -- Summer '68, Pink Floyd btimlake@aol.com -30- *Check out _my_ web page!*-->http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "They say if you look hard / You'll find your way back home Born without a friend / And bound to die alone." -- Chris Cornell, "Zero Chance" ------------------------------ From: targaz@primenet.com Subject: Re: MTV & Soundgarden at Lolla Hi all, First posting, so take it easy on me. I taped most of the MTV Lolla history thing, it only had a small part about SG, although a shit-load of the bumper music was from DOTU. The interview segment with Kim & Chris was interesting but short. The over-all focus was sort of a retrospect, with Nirvana getting a lot of PR through old clips and news releases. There were several comments by Lars of Metallica that were surprisingly intellegent with respect to the alternative elitists who panned the opening line up as not being alternative enough. I got this impression he was being cheeky but maybe thats me being cynical. What did you all think? GardenBoy (Rob Chipman) - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Rock Music is) The most brutal, ugly, desperate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear. Frank Sinatra And I hope its a sweet ride, Sleep tight for me, Sleep tight for me I'm gone SG ------------------------------ From: targaz@primenet.com Subject: Lolla at the Gorge Hey, Didn't someone write to the list the other day and mention they were going to the Gorge to see Lolla on July 30? I think it was Sean Bratnober, but I'm not sure. We're thinking of going, but I need more leverage to convince my wife. (She wants to go but is the practical one. You know, the plan - -well-ahead, where-will-we-stay, do-we-have-the-money type.) If anyone is going please let me know. This date isn't on the site list that I know of. Thanks, GardenBoy (Rob Chipman) chip9162@uidaho.edu - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- (Rock Music is) The most brutal, ugly, desperate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear. Frank Sinatra And I hope its a sweet ride, Sleep tight for me, Sleep tight for me I'm gone SG ------------------------------ Subject: Re: sg shirts at lolla From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) On Jul 08, 1996 06:55:53, 'BTimLake@aol.com' wrote: >What have we decided about nothingman? Are we waiting >for him to reappear? Have we written off that $10-$30 that a lot of us spent? >Perhaps someone who lives near "Friendsville" could pay our man a visit I just have a bad feeling that our money and sense of trust (here's to you Ray) is out the window!! I offered to help Nothingman with the money collecting and sending out shirts but he was adament to do it on his own! Maybe there was a reason for that! I still would like to think that he didn't scam us out of our money!! He seemed to enjoy this list so much is the paltry sum of money he got worth losing us and his clean conscience???? I don't know what we can do short of sending out a *goon* squad and pounding his senseless! Since we all have his snail mail address we could start a hate letter writing campaign!!! Flood his parents mailbox with venom!!! What Lolla was he going to?? Maybe you sommsters going to the same one can keep your eyes peeled for a guy and his friends in nice cream color somms tees with a fork and posting with my good eye closed written on the back and than borrow some of the Monk's weaponry for a good old fashion ass- whoppin!!! Oh Nothingman we hardly knew ya!!! Toni ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: sg giveaway #4 BE>On the block this time is a red vinyl Pretty Noose 7" BE>single, serial #2219. There is a catch this time...to enter BE>you must include a list of sg songs that you feel would make BE>a good bicycling tape. My commute to work is about an hour, BE>so 60 minutes worth of songs would be good, 90 minutes BE>would be better (a change for the ride home, eh?). BE>As always, the drawing will be a random event, and this BE>time it will be conducted sometime in the evening of BE>Wednesday, 10 July, here on the US west coast. Hmmm... Birth Ritual Let Me Drown Rusty Cage Gun Never The Machine Forever Tears To Forget Mood For Trouble Jesus Christ Pose Superunknown Get On The Snake Room A Thousand Years Wide An Unkind Rhinosaur Hunted Down Kyle Petty, Son of Richard Flower No Wrong No Right Face Pollution Ty Cobb Hope thats all right :) ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: burden in my basement... HEY FELLOW GEETARISTS... anybody know the "official" tuning for burden in my hand? i was playing it in our basement with my jam-buddies the other day...i just started banging it out by ear in a different key (standard tuning; E-B-A on the verses with a C-G-D-A change added on for the chorus--"would you cry for me...") which sounded ok with the exception of some of the bridges...i just can't figure out a good way to play those without throwing off my singing. SO...if anybody knows the tuning for this song and any other info you can give me (chord shaping, etc.), i would appreciate it...i think i can figure it out from there... THANX IN ADVANCE... later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: ;-) >ok, i'm going to the July 20th lolla date in Rockingham, NC. That >day is Chris's birthday, so if you people want to mail me a bunch >of birthday cards, i'll TRY to get them to him that day. I think this >would be a very cool thing to do for his birthday. >and be creative. Shroom, this sounds like something you could go for, "i >got an idea, of something we could do with a [gun]". Heheheh... oh, I've already got a few ideas for a card. Not all of them are legal, though. Jerm, you definitely ARE the unGod. Thanks for doing this for us! I REALLY wanted to be at the July 20th Lolla... but it's just not possible. Someday I'll see him on his b-day. Whatcha think Susan is getting him? ;) >oh god... i saw all of those today at the record fair... prices $4 to >$9... and rejected them all (except rusty cage because i like the >[hot] photo of chris on the cover {HI SHROOMIE!!!} Caryn, you are a woman of impeccable taste!! I bought the Rusty Cage single eons ago when it was released. Need I say that I about had a heart attack when I saw the picture of Chris on it? Heheheh... And now, as to the whole Nothingman thing... I've still got faith that he'll come through for us. I think the poor guy just got in over his head this time. Maybe that's rather naive of me... but I'm not going to condemn him just 'cuz he's late with the shirts. It WOULD be nice if he'd write to us... but he's probably scared that we'd ream him on this (and we probably would). NOTHINGMAN!!! IF YOU'RE READING THIS, PLEASE HURRY WITH THE SHIRTS BEFORE THE LISTERS FORM A MOB AND HUNT YOU DOWN!!! Shroom "Hey Shroomy... can I rub your back for you? Please?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: Burden revisited... Long post Beware!!! Okay....Okay, after reading a couple of posts about "Burden" I thought that I would re-post something that I wrote about it back on May 17th.............the songs speaks to diffrent people in diffrent ways... I know... this is what the song says to me..... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ Subj: burden in my hand lyrics!!I Date: 96-05-17 23:12:26 EDT From: Geek Girl To: somms@mit.edu has anyone read all the lyrics to "burden in my hand"? the lines go...... "I shot my love today, would you cry for me?" " I lost my head again would you lie for me?" " I left her in the sand, just like a burden in my hand " As I was reading this I thought of something that actually happpened here in San Diego awhile back. There was this pro skater, Gator ( mark grabowski<~~~~ spelling?) any how he lived here in San Diego who I met and was a cousin of a friend of mine. one night ( as thestory was told to me by my friend) Mark ( gator) had a gotten into a fight with his girlfriend and he was pretty upset! I guess the girlfriends best friend came over to talk to gator and try to act as a mediator between the two.It didnt work! Gator ended up raping the best friend and in the process killed her.. so HE FREAKED OUT and put her in his surf board bag and took her to the desert to bury her...which he did. bury her in the desert I guess a couple of weeks went by and he finally could'nt take it anymore and told a priest what he had done. soon after that he was arrested. that line in the song is too creepy for me...." I left her in the sand, just like a burden in my hand' I wonder,(but do seriously doubt it!) if Chris (CORNELL **SHROOM** HAHA)was writting about this when he wrote the song..apparently he was a skater himself. any comments? gEeK GIrL ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ " follow me into the desert".... to find where she is buried "cause below the truth is lying"... he at first said that he didnt know where she was "I left her in the sand"... no explaination needed!! "I lost my head again."....I'm really insane and I dont remember doing things when I drink(gator)he was deinking when it happened!! "close yyour eyes and bow your head I need a little sympathy".... fell sorry for me.. I killed the girl... "cause fear is strong".... he waited like 2 weeks before he told anyone what he had done!! "and if you live you can fall to pieces and suffer with my ghost"... then ones who will always have remeber him because of whet he did...and always sufer for it! the familys pain that they will always have to deal with!! "just aburden in my hand" ....the girls body... the alchol?... read below!!! then the song goes on... but the lyrics arnt written here!! it goes as much as I can tell......"follow me into the desert.. as desperate as you are.. if it is deperate ...... desperate to find her.. "the mooon is glued to heaven".... I dont have any idea!! unless you think of it after you hear all the littlle pigs have gone.... menaing that he is relieved that his burden is out of his hand.... like a littl peiece of heaven! " and all the little pigs have gone".....the cops? THE BURDEN OF KNOWING THAT YOUR HANDS TOOK THE LIFE OF ANOTHER!!! AND HAVING TO LIVE WITH THAT!!!!! THAT'S THE BURDEN!!!! I SWEAR IF I EVER MEET HIM I WILL BE ASKING ABOUT THIS!!!! I MAY BE TOTALLY REACHING... OR ITS SOME FREAK ACCIDENT!! BUT WOW!!! ah well...... thanks for the listen... Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Re: Motorvision At 01:53 PM 7/6/96 -0500, Vince Varkey wrote: > >The first is called "Soundgarden: Motorvision > >(Live in 1992) and it is $25. The second is called "Soundgarden: A Night To > >Remember (Live '94) and this is $30. Does anyone on here have either of > >these concerts? If you do, please give me a extensive detailed report on > >them. Last time I posted this, I got no response. Someone help me here. > On Sat, 6 Jul 1996, caryn rose wrote: > with all due respect, we on this list do not live and die to provide you (or > anyone else) with soundgarden information at the exact moment you demand it. > first of all, i would call your attention to the Unofficial Soundgarden Home > Page, at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden. > this resource should answer any of your questions, and is available to > someone who is still using Lynx, so get off your butt and use your brain and > try to find some of the answers to your questions yourself. (gee, what a > concept) Do not talk to me like a child Caryn. Yes you are right I could have searched the webpage for info on the two tapes. But I was more interested in hearing what someone, who had already owned the tape(s), thought about it. Having someone on the list's personal opinion is important. Maybe you need to reread my post and understand the context. I was not trying to demand an answer.."Someone help me here" doesn't sound too demanding to me. I had a simple request and it was met with your pissy answer. I don't appreciate it at all. I hope you feel better now. Vincent Varkey ..who is about 3 seconds away from going into a rant.. ------------------------------ From: jmend@interprov.interprov.com (Javier Mendoza) Subject: Re: Extra Lyrics . . . >From: The Guitarist-2001 >Subject: Extra Lyrics . . . >I was noticing that in some cases not all the lyrics to the songs on DOTU >are in the booklet-thingy . . . this is probably a long-dead topic, but >since they're not on the page either, I thought I'd see . . . does anyone >know the 3rd verse of Burden in My Hand? Or what that little background >voice is saying at the beginning of Boot Camp? hmmm . . . > >The Guitarist-2001 >"I've been deaf >Now I want noise" - Loud Love, Soundgarden, Louder Than Love Hi there! What I finally hear in the third verse of Burden in My Hand is: "follow me into the desert as desperate as you are the moon is glued to a picture of heaven and all the little *picture* of god" Listen especially to the *picture* part at 03:26. I definitely can't hear "*pigs have* god" (maybe I'm a little deaf, but I don't think so) =) Well, that was my 0.02 cents. ''~`` ( o o ) +-------.oooO--(_)--Oooo.------+ | Javier Mendoza | |E-mail: jmend@interprov.com | | Republica Argentina | +------------------------------+ Still waitin' for August 27th... ------------------------------ From: apinto@mv.us.adobe.com (Andrea Pinto) Subject: fork????? Has anyone else noticed that Chris hasn't been wearing his fork necklace lately? ------------------------------ From: danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen) Subject: Re: Lollapalooza Questions-Cds & Shirts Caryn had asked about the difference in price on the t-shirts that they sold at the Showbox (thanks again for mine Toni!) and those at Lolla. It's pretty sad actually, they were pushing the same shirts ("with a silohuette of the band on the front and a picture of the "Pretty Nice" single on the back.." hehe)on the phone when I called for ticket price information, and this lady told me that the shirts were $25. She acted like it was some great deal if you got this shirt (they only had the black one) through them, Bass tickets. And I'm sure they would have added a sales tax on top of that if someone had ordered one. Maybe another service surcharge too... ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Can't find a B.b.b.b.b. Nothingman. On Mon, 8 Jul 1996 BTimLake@aol.com wrote: > Actually, I miss my money a lot less than I miss Nothingman. Hell, he can > keep my money if he'll just come back to the list. > -- Ben No shit, nothingman was a cool shit. He made my fork. I sent him tapes. I KNOW he wasn't in this to rip us off, I just wish things would work out differently. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "Panic, all hell breaks loose A battered body screams abuse A plastic bullet ends his youth A motherless son turns and pukes" ------------------------------ From: Josh_Garza@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Josh Garza) Subject: Re: burden in my basement... Well the tuning for Burden in my Hand AND pretty noose and one other song on DOTU that i don't know is... CGCGGE so basically u drop D tune, then tune the bottom three strings downa step and then mess with that G string thats pretty official i guess cuz thats how they play it! jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu,Internet TeachNet Gatew writes: HEY FELLOW GEETARISTS... anybody know the "official" tuning for burden in my hand? i was playing it in our basement with my jam-buddies the other day...i just started banging it out by ear in a different key (standard tuning; E-B-A on the verses with a C-G-D-A change added on for the chorus--"would you cry for me...") which sounded ok with the exception of some of the bridges...i just can't figure out a good way to play those without throwing off my singing. SO...if anybody knows the tuning for this song and any other info you can give me (chord shaping, etc.), i would appreciate it...i think i can figure it out from there... THANX IN ADVANCE... later... - -- - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Lolla at the Gorge On Mon, 8 Jul 1996 targaz@primenet.com wrote: > Hey, > > Didn't someone write to the list the other day and mention they were going > to the Gorge to see Lolla on July 30? I think it was Sean Bratnober, but > I'm not sure. We're thinking of going, but I need more leverage to convince > my wife. (She wants to go but is the practical one. You know, the plan > -well-ahead, where-will-we-stay, do-we-have-the-money type.) If anyone is > going please let me know. This date isn't on the site list that I know of. it's not on seth's page, but it is listed on pollstar, and the tickets did go on sale here in seattle. i think bonnie is talking about going, maybe andrea (welcome back andrea!!) too. chris and i keep throwing it around... and it would be cool to see devo and the melvins and sg of course... but it's a tuesday, and is gonna involve two days off of work for us, which is kinda impossible... i wish it was a weekend or something... it just has the potential to get VERY expensive... *sigh* - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Can't find a B.b.b.b.b. Nothingman. On Mon, 8 Jul 1996, Mayor McCheese wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jul 1996 BTimLake@aol.com wrote: > > > Actually, I miss my money a lot less than I miss Nothingman. Hell, he can > > keep my money if he'll just come back to the list. > > -- Ben > > > No shit, nothingman was a cool shit. He made my fork. I sent him > tapes. I KNOW he wasn't in this to rip us off, I just wish things would > work out differently. i agree wholeheartily with all of the above. having said that.... well, here's a question... is he still on the list (seth? it's not like i can send a 'who' command to majordomo, sorry ;-) )? i know he's communicated with seth a few times -- would you be willing to share that email address with the list so we can try and find out what is happening? it's not fair to put you in the middle of this just because it's your list. if you don't want to give out the address, would you be willing to forward our messages onto him? personally, if i don't hear something soon, the next time i have to go to the post office, i will file a "no merchandise received" complaint about my money order. i mean, i don't want to get him into trouble, and i KNOW how much work this is...but he either needs to get the shirts out, ask for help, or send our money back, and NOW. just my $.02. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: RAINYDAY13@aol.com Subject: SoundGarden Fellow Soundgardeners, This is my first message to the list, but I've been a silent reader for months. As you could guess SG is my fav band too! I've really lucked up ! I've got tickets to the Lolla in NC on the 20th & tickets for the show in Atlanta on the 22nd!!!:)Anyone else on here going to either, e-me! I'd like to meet someone else from the list! I've been a fan since '89, but this will be my first time seeing them live!!! Can't wait to see Chris's sexy bod!:) I read earlier someone wanted to get b-day cards for Chris??We should talk I'd like to help! Does anyone know if they'll be some meet & greet sessions or any possible chance to meet them?? How would one go about getting passes?? ya know, Sunday is the day between shows I wonder what they'll be doing in my neck of the country !! My house is right in the middle, they should stop & visit !! Haha! oh well, if one can't dreams, what can they do!! oh, A little tidbit of info, Ben & I were both born on the same island!! I thought that was pretty exciting!! Hope everyone had a good 4th weekend! See ya at the show!! Rainy ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Can't find a B.b.b.b.b. Nothingman. From: seth > i know he's communicated with seth a few times -- would you be willing to > share that email address with the list so we can try and find out what is > happening? it's not fair to put you in the middle of this just because > it's your list. he never unsubscribed and his email address is the same it's always been. i believe he gets our mail but is unable to respond due to problems with his account, or at least that was his excuse the last time that problem magically cleared up and he emailed me. :) seth ------------------------------ From: LeMoN JeLLo Subject: BIMH and Chris' birthday The last verse of Burden In My Hand, I think, is: Follow me into the desert As desperate as you are The moon is glued To a picture of heaven And all the little pigs have gone. Jeremy--I will be sending you a birthday card for Chris. Thanks for trying to get them to him. LeMoN_JeLLo ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Lolla at the Gorge (fwd) okay, i'm sorry, i take it back. the lolla dates on the page that i had been looking at were on the 'friend-finder' section, and not on the soundgardenland section... you can ALL find the lolla dates here: www.sgi.net/soundgarden/misc/sgland.html#lolla - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Chris Mansfield Subject: Re: answers / questions / comments / dirty laundry / window cleaner UnknMan@aol.com: >I _think_ that the correct title for that sculpture that the band was named >after in Magnusson Park is 'The Sound Garden' & not 'The Soundgarden' while we're being picky... :P the correct title is "A Sound Garden." and magnuson has one "s." :) >Chris (I think you mentioned this): Was that copy of Bmf on 'gold' vinyl or >more of a yellow? yeah that was me, and you know i don't honestly remember if it was even BMF. it might have been the 12" outshined. sorry i don't know that much about official release SG stuff... but to answer your question it really looked more gold than yellow to me. i'm sure i will be back up that way in the near future so i will make note of it. also, ben (timberlake), i will pick up two BMF stickers for you. :) >I had a yellow (more yellow than gold) pressing back a few years ago but it >was over-played & ended up getting a hole one day after several playings of >Room A 1000 Years Wide right in the opening bars when Cornell lets out his >yell. This also wiped-out a good deal of Outshined (a bubble formed on side a). >Anyway... do I have a point? yes... that colored vinyl is meant to be collected and not played. :) seriously. colored vinyl is a poorer grade and degrades quickly when played. someone please correct me if you know more about the subject but i believe vinyl is made from oil/crude. black vinyl is more durable for records because it is more refined. when you start adding colors to the mix it decreases the quality... :) Chris ------------------------------ From: Jane Subject: shirts and stuff ok, i was off the list for a while but i was just wonderin, is it too late to get a shirt? i know nothingman is experiencing difficulties but if i send him my money d'you think he'd be able to get me a shirt? how much money is it? where do i send it? AHHHHH the stress is killing me!!!! Justine "came to grind me into stone polishing the angled flesh and bone the smallest cut to drain my soul precious words of comfort swallowed whole oh no she said i tried for love and died for love but i'd kill for you i want i want wanted to.. you tore the makeup from my face with every acid word you ever know now every line and crack exposed exploited fully till each scar shone through... oh no she said i tried for love, i died for love but i'd kill for you." ------------------------------ From: SOMMS@aol.com Subject: CHRIS/AIDS hi guys, shroom and i were talking about chris (who else?). and for those of you wondering, we *did* discuss the music a little. now aren't you all proud of us?? good, i knew you would be. anyway, i asked her if she could *actually* have sex with chris, and in the process, get AIDS, would she do it? and is it worth it? and so i'm thinking to myself, "hmm, i'm going to post this to the list (SORRY seth)." so guys, *ahem* GIRLS, if you could have sex with chris and get aids in the process, would you??? this oughta be interesting, and reply to ME, not the list!!! ciao, ~Flutter Girl~ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 178] ****************************************