From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 2 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 02 Jul 1996 02:12:03 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 2 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Mosh Freaks commercialism crap!! Re: Musical Hindsight =) Re: grote report: DES MOINES LOLLA Re: lucky day New PN Video Re: PN Video/Canada Day Bash jun 30 lolla rockford il In luv w/Chris SOMMS ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Mosh Freaks Howdy 'yall, Something must be done! Shannon, I'm sorry, but posers are everywhere, even Seattle. And I'm sorry that those of us going to Lolla will likely have to deal with the same shit that Ben had to deal with. Who's to blame for all of this? I say it's the media. The over exageration and hype in the news and television, on MTV, and in movies has forever changed the lives of concert goers everywhere. The "Freaks" think that that's how it's supposed to be, and that's their excuse for violence. There are many who go to concerts now just to beat the living hell out of each other, not for the music. They act like chickens with their heads cut off, running around in circles slamming into whomever is in their way. Last week, I went and saw the Supersuckers/Reverend Horton Heat/BH Surfers in the lovely land of Bremerton (made famous forever by Sir-Mix-Alot). Anyway, there were people there who wouldn't know a S.Suckers or Rev. song from their ass, yet they were slamming during every song and pissing off everyone who came to enjoy the show during the respective sets. The same thing happens at every show. People were slamming at Sweetwater and the Presidents for christ sakes! It makes no sense to me whatsoever. Gone are the good old days when everyone was into the music and pogo'd along in unison with everyone else. The last 2 times I saw Soundgarden that's the way it was. Smaller shows are usually okay, but not the big rock shows. And crowd surfing is way out of control too. Everyone and their mother is surfing now. Personally, I don't because I'm too big. But that doesn't stop multitudes of others from doing so, some who weigh well over 200lbs. I have no problems with dropping such individuals unless they're hurt and need out. I saw PJ in San Fransisco last year and the "pit" area was not open to everyone, only a limited number of people were allowed. It was first come, first serve, so the number of "freaks" was so limited that they weren't noticed. I was quite impressed as were the friends that went with me. It was a breath of fresh air.So, all in all, I have basically one thing to say to the "freaks" in the world: "If you can't get it up and your girlfriend dumped you, stay at home and bother someone else." Sorry this post was so long, but I needed to vent some steam. :) Anyway, who else is going to Lolla at the Gorge? And Washington must be special, because the ticket prices are 5 dollars higher than Des Moines. }:/ Thanks for listening, Aaron "Cruisin for a bruisin'" -Reverend Horton Heat ------------------------------ From: LikeSuicide Subject: commercialism crap!! hell-o, what the hell is wrong with this selling out thing?...........i think sg is not a sell out, never was, and never will be!!!.......... the thing is that when a band creates good....(in the case of sg, GREAT!)... people tend to listen to them....even those who are new to such kind of sound......so eventually loads of people NOW listen to sg... i think that is not selling out.....it is BREAKING THROUGH whatever barriers there are that separate listeners... :> " ako'y inalok ng isang ahas pula't matamis na mansanas, pilit ko man hindi makaiwas.... ......sa mata ng diyos "--------- Wolfgang - KIllYrBF ------------------------------ From: David Searle Subject: Re: Musical Hindsight >Something that seems to be more prevailent these days is bands disowning >earlier albums for one reason or another. SG has done it with LTL, >Nirvana did it with Nevermind, and other bands have made similar >comments. In both of those cases, the bands complained that they hated >the mixing, it wasn't the sound they wanted, etc. I find it hard to >understand why musicians would say these things about their work. I'm in a band and have a quite a few close friends who are also in bands. A friends band signed with an important record label and released an album later last year. They were also unhappy with the sound of the album and a lot of people have asked how that could happen if THEY were the ones who recorded it. Well, when you record with an established record company you have to do things there way for a while before you're able to call the shots. In this case it was the mixing of the album. The albums are usually recorded and then mixed by people from the record company. What I believe happens is the record company attempts to market the band in a specific category and so the album is mixed to sound like that type of music. This may sound a bit contrived, but the mixing of the album can change the sound completely. I mean, you can't mix and album and make Jesus Christ Pose sound like elevator music, but by changing levels you can bring out certain sounds that are associated with certain types of music. I won't try and explain which sounds I beleive belong with certain music, but listen to the sound of things like the guitar on a Bon Jovi album, compared to a Bad Brains album, compared to a Sting album, compared to a Soundgarden album. Get the idea? Dave ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: =) High kiddies... I read an interesting thing on one of the AOL Music boards this weekend. A guy who "supposedly" got backstage at one of the Lolla shows said that Chris' laminate (all-access pass) had a picture of him and Susan kissing on it. (Is he not THE most awesome guy in the world??!?) Has anyone else heard anything about this? Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell | |.| |.| |\./| "She drinkin' my JackDaniels |\./| and smokin' all my weed" .\ |\./| /. ~~Andy Wood, MLB \-.\ |\\.//| /.-/ \--./\ |\\.//| /\.--/ \--.| \ |\\.//| / |.--/ \---.|\ |\./| /|.---/ \--.|\ |\./| /|.--/ \ .\ |.| /. / _ -_- \ \\ // / -_- _ - -/_/_/- | | -\_\_\- - /_\ ------------------------------ From: sfox@mailer.fsu.edu (Stephen Fox) Subject: Re: grote report: DES MOINES LOLLA >pass up seeing the ramones and devo and the melvins and sg again because >of beavis and butthead wannabe metallica fans I feel exactly the same way. >oh, and i think ben folds five sucks, but that's just me. ;-) I feel the exact opposite way. >--caryn > > That's $.01 of my $.02. I need the other half to sustain life on your planet. Great Big Noise, Stephen R. Fox sfox@mailer.fsu.edu ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: lucky day At 02:19 PM 6/26/96 -0500, onefellswoop wrote: >Hey, I just got a copy of AITS in the mail today. I examined the >packaging for 10 minutes, but the only hint of the cd's origin was a >reference to Seattle. I finally looked inside and a slip of paper read, >"Congratulations! You are an iMusic winner! Enclosed is the Soundgarden >CD Plus Sampler you won from IMusic". I'm trying to remmeber what >contest this was. Wasn't that the one with the snowboard? It must have >been. Oh well, I'm a winner. Anybody else win anything?? >Geoff > DAMMIT! I really wanted to win teh snwboard too. Now i have to buy a new one. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Aldrich Subject: New PN Video I have now seen the new PN video twice and I don't like it nearly as much as the old one. First of all the they didn't play the old one enough as it was. It was on for about 4 days and then it was just gone. The old one is much cooler and makes you think. The new one is just a bunch of colors. What prompts the bands to make more than one vid. SG did it w/ BHS and STP did it w/ Vasoline -- but with those two they were just different editing jobs. I'm starting to get really pissed off with MTV anyway. Sorry, that' my Rant-o-the Day ---Ryland Aldrich aldrich@nwlink.com ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: PN Video/Canada Day Bash The Kozik PN vid (un-edited) is still in heavy rotation on Much Music in Canada. It's played "at least" once a day. I'm not positive, but I think its still climbing on the MM charts, the last I saw it at was #8. BTW, to all the people who get Much Music, there's s'posed to be a huge Canada Day bash today with tonnes of live bands broadcasting from Molson Park in Barrie starting at 8:00PM EST: I Mother Earth, Our Lady Peace, Rainbow Butt Monkeys, Tea Party, 13 Engines, Killjoys, Ashley MacIsaac to name a few... - -- Chris Mackenzie - cmackenz@spots.ab.ca - The Unofficial Wellwater Conspiracy Homepage - http://www.spots.ab.ca/~cmackenz/ - "Wellwater tastes better than tap water any day!" - SWRJr. ------------------------------ From: PIZANOJM@AXP.CALUMET.PURDUE.EDU Subject: jun 30 lolla rockford il First off i,m also a dead head and the further fest was in town And i attended fri at deer creek in and alpine valley wi sat . come sun there was a conflict either go to lolla to see sg or go to tinley park to see the further fest again which by the way i had second row for and no lolla ticket at all guess where i went SOUNDGARDEN and my JONES to see them prevailed and i loaded up and headed west of chicago for lolla which was also sold out. I arrived to barter a scalper down from sixty a ticket to a price more to my liking($25 way under face hello i love it i along with that i kicked down some mother nature as well just to grease the wheels abit . anyway sg ruled the show i was down in the sweat pit for th ewhole set being identical to the previous show set listed for kc and ia soundgarden is happiness lolla sucks down with metallica the're pussies ------------------------------ From: PJ9718@aol.com Subject: In luv w/Chris Hello, I just got AOL two days ago and I was in heaven to see all the great stuff on Soundgarden. I've been listening to the band since 1989 and I have most of their records including imports. Soundgarden has got to be the best band ever to form (Mother Love Bone, too), they are a god sent. I am in love with Chris Cornell I think he is a gift to earth. It is my life long dream to meet him someday, along with the band. I waited in line for Loolapalooza tickets for the LA show just so I could see Soundgarden. Lucky me, I got the farthest section back in the corner. I'll be lucky if I can distinguish which one is Chris on the stage. When I was in Seattle last summer I was bright eyed the whole time hoping just by chance I would see Chris, in which I would jump on him and give him the best liplock he's ever recieved (sorry, little lady!). The day will come!!!!! I love you, Jessica ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: SOMMS Hey all.... I'm sure this is not the best time to announce seeing how this is causing a little bit of a stir....but here it goes: I found 2 copies of SOMMS the other day while out and about and it seemed to me that this CD is hard for others to find.... so being nice I bought them! ( ya know help out my fellow list members ) they were however 16.00 bucks each ( belive me I amnot makeing a profit on it.... I am selling them for jexactly what I paid for them...!!!) If anyone is interested please let me know....I will ship them to ya.. at no extra charge...( even out of the us...!) also if anyone wants to trade me for it that's cool too... I am looking for "stolen prayers" or "coverin" let me know it you are interested!!! OVER AND OUT!! Dena :)~ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 171] ****************************************