From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 1 Jul 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 01 Jul 1996 02:20:23 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 1 Jul 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: lolla crowd advice... Chris the hypocrite... Lollapolooza @ the Gorge Hey, baby... Ben's Lolla Experience lolla '96 wpb, florida Wellwater Conspiracy Sound Clips Available!!! Re: Mr. Cameron speaks Re: hey.. Lolla in Des Moines!!!! The Day I tried to Live vid Re: Born in the USA Lolla in Des Moines. SOMMS I have it RAIN SONG Yes i am a Metallica fan :) ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Chris Mansfield Subject: Re: lolla crowd advice... > the ramones finished to catch the end of ben folds five's set (A MUST >SEE! these guys are fantastic... *yawn* they played moe's here in seattle a couple of months ago and after hearing the same type of glowing reviews we paid our $5 and saw them. after we figured out the formula (mostly elton john) we left in mid-set. it was interesting for about two songs and then it all started to sound the same to me. we were thoroughly bored. anyway, my vote is: don't waster yer money. go see 7 year bitch instead. :) awesome show... :) Chris ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Chris the hypocrite... Hello kiddies... I got in two videos from PJ Starr yesterday. SG compilation tapes #1 and #2. Excellent stuff. The recordings aren't great, but she's got EVERYTHING on them. Good thing it's not possible to OD on SG. Both versions of the "Outshined" video are on them. I'm sorry... but both of those videos are pure sex. The main focus isn't on the band... it's on Chris' half-naked body. Not that I'm complaining, mind you!! "Outshined" is probably my favorite video of all time. Anyway... Chris Cornell is SO full of shit. He doesn't want people focusing in on his good looks, but yet he totally threw it in our faces up until a couple years ago. Can we say hypocrite? How can he blame his shirtlessness on the photographers and directors? Puh-leeeze. Like he couldn't have said "No, I don't want to take my shirt off for this photo shoot."? Don't think so, babe. I didn't even know the guy OWNED a shirt until Superunknown came out (slight exaggeration). I don't see how he could possibly justify his blatant "look at my sexy body" earlier attitude as something that was forced upon him. That's ridiculous, and if he thinks we're buying it... then he's only fooling himself. I wonder if maybe he's embarrassed by it now? Oh well... as long as he keeps making great music, then the guy can tell himself as many stories as he'd like. Damn, but he has a sexy body, though!! Shroom "I also think you're pretty sexy too (Shroom)... but NOT AS SEXY AS ME!!!!!!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer LOL Dena!! ------------------------------ From: Aldrich Subject: Lollapolooza @ the Gorge Hello all. I need 2 tickets for the Lollapolooza at the Gorge but I have a hard time spending almost $100 for Soundgarden and Screaming Trees. SO if anyone has or knows anyone who has purchased Tickets and for some reason would like to get rid of them cheaper... or If you know about some place that I could get them cheaper, please E-Mail me directly. Thanks a lot! ---Ryland Aldrich aldrich@nwlink.com ------------------------------ From: overfloater@thenexus.com Subject: Hey, baby... Is there anyone going to the Pownal, VT Lollapalooza next Tuesday? If so let me know and we can hook up or whatever.. I'm going up with a bunch of friends and I think it would be kinda neet to meet some list people =) I know you're just DYING to meet Overfloater, Identity Crisis Girl herself. (j/k!) I think this message has some Soundgarden content in it (Lolla) but just in case, I finally saw the second Pretty Noose video yesterday. It's kinda dry (cause all it shows is the band playing) but the swirly stuff is really cool, and Chris looks great =) (well, they all look great, but Chris stole my heart. So did Keviner.) And I really dig that bald dude at the beginning: "See them and hear them first, then ve vill talk about them aftervard." Hehe :) I wish I could get it on tape, but my VCR sucks.. time to pester some of my VHS-fortunate friends.. well, I'll shut up now ..overfloater ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Ben's Lolla Experience I feel for you Ben. What a disappointment. Its not because SG is more popular, though, its because people don't know how to act in a mosh pit anymore. When I saw them at Lolla 92 it was the same, and I was out there on the lawn (where they started moshing anywhere they could) 6 months pregnant! And it had poured half the day, so it was slippery from the mud. I was scared to death. It used to be that people had fun in the pit, but now too many assholes just see it as a place to hurt people.And when you have lawn seats you don't have much control over the situation either. There werent supposed to be mosh pits at the 92 Lolla, so instead of moshing up front people just formed a pit whereever they felt like it (Believe me I wouldn't have been anywhere near a pit, being pregnant and all)This is one reason I refuse to go to outdoor concerts anymore, and why I rarely move close to the stage inside either. You used to be able to get right up front without risk of getting killed (jostled and pushed around maybe, but not like now). Its really a shame. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Jac143@aol.com Subject: lolla '96 wpb, florida hi anyone on the list going? jax ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Wellwater Conspiracy Sound Clips Available!!! I have made Wellwater Conspiracy sound clips available at my site. Visit the Unofficial Wellwater Conspiracy Homepage at: http://www.spots.ab.ca/~cmackenz/ Enjoy! ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: Mr. Cameron speaks At 05:36 PM 6/22/96 -0700, Stella Rogers wrote: >This is so cool. We have Matt and Frank Kozik reading our mailing list. >Now if we could only get the other guys... Well, you guys have me! I'm gonna be kinda famous someday. Guaranteed! (If not, I'll be a ski/snowboard bum in Colorado) Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: hey.. At 10:25 PM 6/22/96 -0500, overfloater@thenexus.com wrote: >anyone seen the new issue of Raygun? Soundgarden is on the cover (duh) I saw and was gonna buy it, but saw how the columns in teh mag were all fucky. I decided to save my $3 and buy lunch for myself tomorrow. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Lolla in Des Moines!!!! Yes I went No I didn't see grote or B. Kinser :( But this is what I do know: I went 500 miles to see Soundgarden (thanks to my marvelous girlfriend for borrowing me the cash). I loved Screaming Trees and Ruby. Missed You Am I (Damn it). I paid 40.50 to see Soundgarden with Screaming Trees and Ruby open in the end. But, it was definately worth it. I'll cut to the chase. Of course Soundgarden rocked. I lost my girlfriend during the show, and she even enjoyed it alot, and she doesn't even like music that much. They definately had alot of energy in the music. 1) Didn't get to see 10 minute version of "Boot Camp". :( 2) Metallica fans suck (except for a very few). They *almost* ruined the whole show for me with their stupid mosh pits. What the fuck is the use for them. I came for the music!!!!!! Not to run around and slam into other males!!! For Christ sake, I wish I was a women sometimes when I think of how stupid juvinile white trash male metallica fan boys are. 3) I met 2 great soundgarden fans who weren't on the list. One of which was so cool, I plan on going to see him soon. He had every album and many vinyls as well as a comprehensive knowledge of the band. Plus, these two fans had made their own forks!!!!! In fact, that's how we met. I didn't have the Somms shirt, but both of them came up to me after seeing it and talked to me for a lengthy amount of time. In fact, of the few people who I saw wearing soundgarden shirts there, they were all pretty diehard fans. But the two guys who made the forks blew my mind. The one guy had drove from the far side of South Dakota for the show. The other (who I hung out with for quite awhile) was from Eau Claire Wisconsin and had drove by himself. 4) I didn't stay for Metallica I was so pissed. Neither did the guy from Eau Claire. He said he'd rather sleep. In fact, for the few soundgarden shirts I saw on during the day, I saw the most as the Metallica set started . . . walking out the door. 5) Lost my girlfriend to the opener (spoonman) due to a stupid mosh pit. We had decided earlier to not look for each other however in the case until after the show, so we wouldn't miss it. I wasn't going to miss it for ANYTHING. I went to the front. Whenever I got too hot, I would crowd surf out and rest. Doing this I made eye contact with both Kim and Ben. It was really funny. I was yelling Ben's name while I crowd surfed and he was staring at me. I landed in front of him and his eyes widened. I swear he stared at me for at least 10 seconds. 6) Met a hippy looking guy (who I believe also left after the soundgarden set) who made a sheet full of crowd sayings who was DETERMINED to have it seen by soundgarden. I joined in to help out. I got it to the front with him. I don't know if he got it to the band or not or even close to over the fence, but then again he and I held it up alot on the way up there while fighting metallica fans who could care less about soundgardens music. 7) Wrecked a perfectly good soundgarden shirt. 8) Met a former list member from Rochester Minnesota who didn't post too often (or maybe not at all) but forgot his name (must be never :) ). 9) Former list member was punched by Metallica fan during Screaming Trees show because former list member was invading his space. Former list member just wanted to get up front. 10) Metallica fans through pizza boards during final song, which might have looked cool if you weren't worried about what was going on on the stage. But, it pretty much pissed of the rest of us. And the absolute kick in the ass: Metallica fans looked apon all this as Soundgarden opening for Metallica. That puts the iceing on the cake. I'm sorry if you are a Metallica fan, and I really hope if you are that you aren't white trash or a male with a small ego (There is about 10% of them who are normal I believe, but Lolla didn't prove it), but Soundgarden is NO ONE's opening act. And time will tell that story. And despite all this, I had fun! Lot's of it. 40 dollors and 50 cents worth!!!!! Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: The Day I tried to Live vid Question: Why didn't MTV put TDITtL video into rotation? I think it's fucking great, and I'm glad that i got AitS working so that i can see it. Besides the fact that the opening part alone is chilling. Did anyone else think Beatles when they heard the opening for the first time? Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: Born in the USA At 10:56 PM 6/23/96 -0400, Steven Russell Jr. wrote: >When a band such as SG who prided themselves with anti-commercialism >suddenly become commercial. It makes you wonder what side they're on. >Which has been answered. This has been said before: SG is not "anti" or "pro" anything. They just love to make music, and who can blame them for wanting to reap the benefits? Did their style of music drastically change once they became big? No? then everyone stop bitching about selling out and commercialism. Thayil, Cameron, Shepherd and Cornell all busted their asses, paid their dues, and stayed humble. They WORKED to receive the kind of opportunities like the Molson concert. When HBO pays them $2 million dollars to play a nationally televised concert with Kim on the harp, Ben on the flute, Matt on the chimes, and Chris singing trite soft rock lyrics, I'll start worrying. More power to SG. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Lolla in Des Moines. The best part: The formentioned (by grote) quote of Chris's after someone through a Yoga book on stage about keeping religion to yourself. second best: Chris (not a direct quote, but the meaning is the same): "Don't believe what you hear. I don't do heroin and I'm from Seattle. But, if you want good heroin, it's in Seattle". Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: SOMMS I have it Yes ladies and gentlemen i have put a deposit for Somms and it will be mine in about a week. So add me to that Somms owners list. I couldn't believe my luck when i saw it for sale at Utopia (record store specialising in Heavy music). I am paying $60 Aus (about $45 US). I think that's a fair price, besides i don't have Badmotorfinger on CD so its like killing two birds with one stone. PS. I wonder what will Carolyn want taped next :) "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: RAIN SONG If you ever get a day where you wake up, and it's gray out with a light rain or drizzle coming down, do yourself a favor: Listen to Overfloater. Nuff said Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Yes i am a Metallica fan :) I am a Metallica fan but please don't shoot me. I am also a Soundgarden fan, infact after DOTU was released they got the no1 spot until Load was released and Metallica returned at number 1. Don't just blame Metallica fans for the crowd at Lolla, other idiots must have contributed, infact on of the worst crowds i have experienced was at a Soundgarden concert. It is possible that some of the morons were Soundgarden fans. Oh well most of the Metallica fans I know are pretty cool but i agree there are idiots out there. I'm sorry if you didn't even see Metallica live you missed a great band. The only outdoor concert i saw was Pearl Jam. They sold "only" 32,000 tickets so it wasn't too bad (at the same venue Guns 'n Roses sold 80,000) and you could stand back enough to avoid the rough mosh but still have a relatively good view of the band. Okay the food, toilet facilities, and waiting in line sucked (plus all those stupid teeny bopper girls that were screaming, not cheering, and went crazy when Daughter was played, but hardly knew other songs), but Pearl Jam put on a great show. How many people go to Lollapalooza? Most small shows have better crowds, ie true fans that help each other out. Again my sincere apologies for me and all other Metallica fans, I'm sure all Soundgarden fans were well behaved. "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 170] ****************************************