From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 28 Jun 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 02:57:10 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 28 Jun 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 17 May 1996 misc. catchup Re: SG COMPILATION TAPES Re: SG on TV Re: To plec' or not to plec' (That is the question)? Followup: FS: HIV Baby/Room 1000, also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION Re: soundgarden and study.....???... Molson Re: Followup: FS: HIV Baby/Room 1000, also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION Re: lolla questions... Re: SG COMPILATION TAPES Re: lolla questions... DOTU boxed set?? Re: lolla questions... letter to ATN Matt's Email Didn't Know the DOTU Songs?!?!? also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION Musical Hindsight Re: Followup: FS: HIV Baby/Room 1000, also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION July 22 Soundgarden show!! (fwd) Re: Molson Re: DOTU boxed set?? guitar world -- july issue Auctions Re: also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION I already see you've got it in for me... lolla 96 in wpb, fl RE: Soundgarden; PJam; beer; quote of the week Re: To plec' or not to plec' (That is the question)? Feelin' Minnesota lolla advice needed Re: Commercial Sounds emitting from the Garden RE: Hater.......Monster Magnet.......Tumbleweed.......The Mark Of Cain.......an Re: Matt the Great Re: FS: HIV Baby/Room 1000 years wide on purple (black, too) RE: Commercialism NtMF Re: SG at my door? More on the Atlanta show... Re: July 22 Soundgarden show!! & Cable Guy Re: also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION 'punks' like Soundgarden ------------------------------------------------------------ From: sac53452@saclink1.csus.edu Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 17 May 1996 Soundgarden is one of my favorite bands, AIC and Zep rank just ahead. One of my favorite soundgarden songs that gets no radio airplay is "fourth of July". I've never had the chance to see Soundgarden live, the closest they have been to Sacramento is U.C. Berkley. How come on the last tour they werent using basketball areanas as venues, was it a decision by the band to do smaller venues. They could definitly get 10-12 thousand to show up. Does anyone know why. E-mail me any time Soundgarden fans, Bye for now Philip ------------------------------ From: BTimLake@aol.com Subject: misc. catchup Hey everyone, i've been gone for a bit and may be responsible for some bounced mail. Sorry about that, I know it's annoying, but that's fixed now. Anyway, I just downloaded the sound file of shroom. it was so cool. I sat here just smiling for like ten minutes because of all that it meant to me. Not only was it funny that shroom is infamous within the band (I love matt saying, "Chris, this girl _really_ likes you"), but this is also another indication of how the internet is changing our lives and making the world a smaller place. Of course, in the confusion of coming home from school, I missed all the online and radio stuff. I really missed reading the list, too. It was cool seeing that some list members got to see the seattle show. I wish that I could have been there, but you can't have everything. Anyway, in less than 9 hours I'll be at lollapalooza (somms shirtless), so I'm very excited and thought that I should write to the list. I don't really know why, but I really needed to share my excitement with someone. So, I guess after I recover from the festivities i'll post how it was. later. -- Ben Ben Timberlake "My friends are lying in the Northwestern University sun, I wish that I was them." Medill School of Journalism -- Summer '68, Pink Floyd btimlake@aol.com -30- *Check out _my_ web page!*-->http://pubweb.acns.nwu.edu/~bft718 "They say if you look hard / You'll find your way back home Born without a friend / And bound to die alone." -- Chris Cornell, "Zero Chance" ------------------------------ From: Malvol7@aol.com Subject: Re: SG COMPILATION TAPES Actually, I never thought of PJ as a bootlegger, and I would hardly put her in the same category as ticket scalpers! She gave me a quite a few things from Silver Management (she is also informed in advance of when/where SG will be doing interviews) so I'm assuming that she's authorized to sell SG merchandise...she has hats, T's, posters, photos, etc., and audio as well as video tapes. If it hadn't been for PJ I never would have had the opportunity to see all of the early SG interviews, and her compilations also made it possible for me to see all of their videos, (I hadn't even seen BHS). I was in the hospital for months, and my when my aunt brought in the VCR and SG compilations (along with all the other things PJ had included "free of charge"), it really meant a lot to me...we literally think of PJ as a life- saver. ------------------------------ From: sfox@mailer.fsu.edu (Stephen Fox) Subject: Re: SG on TV >>This was on a few years ago,during the first season, but the band did not >>make an appearance. They showed Bill Nye in the studio (Bad Animals-that's > >So, those people I saw who looked exactly like Matt and Kim were just >figments of my imagination? Hmmmmmm.. > >Erin. > This might be two different episodes. I have e-mailed The Nye page about it. My roommate at the time said he saw one in which they were, but the one I saw just had the mixing of "Kickstand." It would be completely possible that I am wrong, however. Great Big Noise, Stephen R. Fox sfox@mailer.fsu.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Re: To plec' or not to plec' (That is the question)? From: "Matthew Lawrence" > > Dear all, > for some reason, earlier on a question jumped into my head and > I've been thinking about it ever since. So I thought I'd ask some people > who might know. > "Does anyone have any idea if Kim, Ben and Chris use plectrums or not"? > If they do, do they all the time or just for certain songs? Which songs and > why? The one time I saw them live, they were all using plectrums.. As far as i could tell, anyway. Matt ------------------------------ From: John Bacus Subject: Followup: FS: HIV Baby/Room 1000, also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION Oops. In my previous post I wasn't totally clear. MB stands for minimum bid. I thought everyone knew that meant auction (it looks like I'm the only one who does. I also decided to sell my copy of BadMotoorFinger/SOMMS by way of auction. So if you would like this, the bidding starts at $30. Sorry for the confusion John I'm selling my extra copies of HIV Baby/Room 1000 years wide. I have both the black and grape vinyl versions. This is the promo single that Sub Pop sent out to single club members. MB on grape = $20 MB on black = $15 ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: soundgarden and study.....???... Ok , I must turn everyone on to this. Anyone that has to take an exam in the future. ?If you can get away with it, listen to apple bite before you take the exams. It calms you down in a matter of seconds, and tottlay clears your mine. 6 of my friends tried it with me, and it worked, so you never know. The original preety noose ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Molson The Molson 'incident'...last year Chris said he misses the challenge of winning over an apathetic audience. SG built their following one fan at a time by touring small clubs in the U.S. and abroad for years. Wasn't the Molson concert an ideal situation for them? They were paid deservedly for a band of their quality and name and at the same time challenged themselves by not playing to their fans. I wonder if many of the 400 Molson attendees didn't actually groan with disappointment when SG came onstage. Do we know that the crowd was thrilled with their 'blind date'...or repulsed? I'm sure the guys didn't care too much whether people went screaming from the venue in disgust or if they broke down with tears of joy, but I do think it may have been an interesting experience. Rewarding both economically and artistically as performers. -Vikki ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Followup: FS: HIV Baby/Room 1000, also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, John Bacus wrote: > Oops. In my previous post I wasn't totally clear. MB stands for > minimum bid. I thought everyone knew that meant auction (it looks like > I'm the only one who does. > > I also decided to sell my copy of BadMotoorFinger/SOMMS by way of > auction. So if you would like this, the bidding starts at $30. why does this seem like a ripoff to me? didn't we go through this a few months ago???! you are most certainly entitled to ask whatever price you like for the record, but considering that you told me that you got your copy of SOMMS for $15, to "start the bidding" at $30 seems a tad on the profiteering side when you are amongst fans. Considering that SOMMS goes from anywhere from $30 to $80, why can't you just name your price and give it to the first person who writes to you, or put the names in a hat and draw 'em. but this auction mentality is ugly, imo. i was interested in the HIV Baby single but i'm not going to enter into an *auction* for it. there are plenty of copies out there. fyi, gang, this guy *just* joined the list after hearing andrea and i talk about it on the ticket line two weeks ago. i suspect he joined just to make a fast buck.... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: lolla questions... On Wed, 26 Jun 1996, grote wrote: > hey lolla veterans... > > let me know what the "rules and regulations" are for this year's > lolla. basically, i want to know if we're not allowed to bring > anything (water, etc.) into the show like it's been in the past. plus > any other information you think would be useful.... this may have changed, but these are the basic rules: 1) you can bring one plastic bottle of water, but it MUST be sealed. 2) you can bring a "bag lunch" -- eg, food in your backpack within reason (not a commercial quantity ;-) ), but no coolers. - --> both of these rules can depend on the venue and even the individual security person who searches your bag! if you can't get it through one, try another. ;-) other stuff you might want to bring: 1) hat 2) sunscreen/lip balm 3) an old sheet or something else to sit on don't bring/wear anything you really care about if you plan on going down front. ;-) ------------------------------ From: stella Subject: Re: SG COMPILATION TAPES At 09:21 AM 6/27/96 -0400, you wrote: >Actually, I never thought of PJ as a bootlegger, and I would hardly put her >in the same category as ticket scalpers! She gave me a quite a few things >from Silver Management (she is also informed in advance of when/where SG will >be doing interviews) so I'm assuming that she's authorized to sell SG >merchandise...she has hats, T's, posters, photos, etc., and audio as well as >video tapes. If it hadn't been for PJ I never would have had the opportunity >to see all of the early SG interviews, and her compilations also made it >possible for me to see all of their videos, (I hadn't even seen BHS). I was I dont know about *all* thier videos. I still haven't seen Day I tried to Live. They did make a video for that didn't they? ==================================================================== stella / \ /\ | |_| / \ \ \ / /\ \ http://www.fix.net/~srogers _\ \tell /\ \ srogers@fix.net | | | / / \ \ \ / /__/ \__\ ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Re: lolla questions... Ummm, I'm leaving in about 4 hours and I plan on bringing one of those disposable camera's in (like caryn!!) and getting some nice panaramic pics from up close (yeah, right). If so, seth has more work. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX *** Time to Play the McCheese "Name the Fav" Game *** Just Reply to me with the Song Title and Artist And I'll tell you your cool or something "It's on Amerika's tortured brow Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow . . ." ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: DOTU boxed set?? _the rocket_ reports that _ICE_ reports that DOTU is being released (or is released) in a limited-edition boxed set, including an interview cd. anyone know anything about this? ;-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: lolla questions... On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Mayor McCheese wrote: > > Ummm, I'm leaving in about 4 hours and I plan on bringing one of > those disposable camera's in (like caryn!!) and getting some nice > panaramic pics from up close (yeah, right). If so, seth has more work. gee, why do i think there's going to be a sudden increase in the sale of disposable cameras this summer? ;-) i would recommend the *waterproof* ones for lolla (or any outdoor daytime festival where you're going to be in the pit). my photos of pearl jam in sf were taken with one of those (http://www.nwlink.com/~clr/pj.html if you're interested in results) otherwise, for nighttime or indoor shows you need the ones with a flash. shutter won't stay open long enough otherwise. btw, disposables are only going to work for you if you're prepared to be RIGHT down front. don't be one of those people flashing with an instamatic (remember those?) from the back row... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: letter to ATN reading addicted to noise on my lunch hour, i find this huge, very complimentary story about the latest molson beer concert which took place last night in toronto. guests were metallica. i don't get it... soundgarden gets the shit beat out of them for doing it, and for not showing up at a concert that A LOT of bands were not present at... but it's okay for metallica?! my letter to atn copied below: - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >re: the metallica 'blind date' story... > >okay, when soundgarden did it, you >lambasted them out of a clear blue sky >for not performing at the free tibet >show (how do you know they were even >INVITED, btw? i mean, they weren't >the only band on the history of the >planet who weren't at the show!), but >when metallica does it, it's okay??! >isn't this just a tad hypocritical? >are you afraid to: >1) criticize metallica, after they gave >you the inside scoop on the album >launch events; >2) criticize molson, who maybe are going >to give you some sponsorship money? >or do you just have something against >soundgarden, hmm? did they refuse to >give you an interview or something? >refuse to give you tickets to the >showbox gig or what? > >this is just about the worst example >of bias i've seen on ATN to date. > >--caryn > > ------------------------------ From: Joco Agostinho Subject: Matt's Email Hi guys! Can somebody on the list send me the mail that matt sent to the list? I dont have it and i wanna read it really bad. Thanks! - --=20 "It hurts to care, I'm going down" - j.c. "A wish for a real one" - c.m. =20 =20 -------------------------------------------- | | | Por/By: Jo=E3o Agostinho | | E-MAIL: mailto:joao.alex@mail.telepac.pt | | E-MAIL: mailto:a10752@alunos.ualg.pt | | URL: http://www.geopages.com/paris/3276 | | | | Olh=E3o - Algarve - Portugal | | | -------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: Didn't Know the DOTU Songs?!?!? What?? To put it in CC's words himself, "Rhinosaur is Rockin!" And it did. Forgive me, but I'm just not sure I can believe we were at the same Soundgarden concert. IMO, it seemed like the crowd was very into it. Then again, maybe it was because Caryn and I were singing at the top of our lungs and screaming at the fact that, YES, they are playing another song from DOTU!!! I screamed my recognition at every song I knew (and that was all of them excluding the cover tunes). And, I don't know, but when you feel the floor moving up and down because the crowd is collectively hopping at the beginning of yet another great song, seemingly due to the fact that they all knew what it was because of the timing, it just leads me to believe that this guy wasn't seeing or feeling the whole picture. And that's okay. It *felt* like everyone else was screaming and totally getting into it too. But really, I have no way of knowing what was going on past my world of Soundgarden in front of me, Caryn to the left, guy-who-crammed-in-next-to-me to the right and various assholes trying to crawl over me (or whatever) behind me. I dunno, maybe just the folks at the barricade are the only ones who felt the atmosphere and actually knew the material (not including Andrea, Toni and Todd). If that's the case, then I thank god again for my location. Bonnie ------------------------------ From: erin@planet.eon.net Subject: also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION >I also decided to sell my copy of BadMotoorFinger/SOMMS by way of >auction. So if you would like this, the bidding starts at $30. Did I find my copy of Somms for really really cheap or something? It starts at $30? American? God, that's expensive... ------------------------------ From: mmholliday@attmail.com (Michael M Holliday) Subject: Musical Hindsight Just $.02 on the selling-out/musical integrity discussion. Something that seems to be more prevailent these days is bands disowning earlier albums for one reason or another. SG has done it with LTL, Nirvana did it with Nevermind, and other bands have made similar comments. In both of those cases, the bands complained that they hated the mixing, it wasn't the sound they wanted, etc. I find it hard to understand why musicians would say these things about their work. It's like anything else in life, you learn and grow as you mature, and hopefully you do things better. I would think that at the time LTL or Nevermind were finished, given the resources available to the bands, their experience, etc., they were probably happy with what they'd accomplished. Once they'd become more successful and experienced, and could exercise more control, they made albums exactly the way they wanted. I think it's great that SG was able to produce DOTU and get exactly the sound they wanted; the results are obvious! It just seems wrong to belittle earlier work, because it's not as refined as your current effort. I know I'd be happy to make music half as good as LTL. Javdoctor ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: Followup: FS: HIV Baby/Room 1000, also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION I'd have to disagree with you there Caryn. Auctions are "good" in my opinion. I got the Louder Than Live CD Promo through an auction for $40US. It usually sells for around $70. Besides, so what if John is trying to make a profit... hell, this is a capitalist socitey! :) And living in Canada I don't see too much rare SG stuff, its good to see that John is giving people an opportunity to get rarities that we can't get at our home turf. Just my own opinion... - - Chris ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: July 22 Soundgarden show!! (fwd) in case someone isn't on the fan club list... - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 15:35:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Soundgarden To: soundgarden@speakeasy.org Subject: July 22 Soundgarden show!! A SPECIAL SHOW ANNOUNCEMENT FOR SOUNDGARDEN FANS... SOUNDGARDEN WILL BE PERFORMING A THEATER SHOW IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA ON JULY 22 !! The show will be at THE UNDERGROUND in Atlanta. This theater show for a capacity crowd of approximately 9000 fans is not a part of the Lollapalooza tour.TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE NOW!! Call Ticketmaster at 404 249 6400 to get your tickets while they last. SEE YOU THERE !! KOTS Knights Of The Soundtable ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Molson On Thu, 27 Jun 1996 ansel@morgan.com wrote: > The Molson 'incident'...last year Chris said he misses the > challenge of winning over an apathetic audience. SG built > their following one fan at a time by touring small clubs in > the U.S. and abroad for years. Wasn't the Molson concert an > ideal situation for them? [snip snip snip] interesting viewpoint, and one that makes a lot of sense imo. thanks for that, vikki! - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Jaime Gonzalez Subject: Re: DOTU boxed set?? I have a friend,Gary, who is the manager for the cd and tape dept at Marshall Music. 4-5 weeks ago he received a pre-release info sheet.It described this box set. 2 cds ,one is an interview disc.In addition,is a metal SG badge,A booklet, and will cost about $50.00.That's is all I know at the moment and I'll keep posting updates as I get them.tomorrow the manager will call his source. Gary pre-ordered 1 copy for me,SO I should be getting one when it is released. What or who is ICE? Gonzo I had a dog he was a mix he loved me like a god but I was just a kid,The kind mothers like. At 12:58 PM 6/27/96 -0700, you wrote: > >_the rocket_ reports that _ICE_ reports that DOTU is being released (or >is released) in a limited-edition boxed set, including an interview cd. > >anyone know anything about this? ;-) > >--caryn > > Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: Chris Mansfield Subject: guitar world -- july issue don't remember if this has been posted yet or not but the july issue of guitar world has an interview with kim accompanied by a couple of decent photos. :) Chris ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Auctions i think this whole idea of auctions is cool. $30 for somms is pretty cheap though. this guy must be pretty cool to sell it for that price. if anyone is interested i have one going for $100. ------------------------------ From: Jaime Gonzalez Subject: Re: also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION I found my copy of SOMMS for $15 at a record collectors show last month. Personally, I do not care for this auction thing on the mailing list,let him take it to Goldmine.By the way,he is doing this same auction thing on the Alice In Chains list.On the AIC list,I e-mailed him asking for info about the WE Die Young EP he was auctioning.I asked him if the EP was on CD or Vinyl, Hey,I didn't honestly know and I wanted to know specifically what I may be bidding for. he replied back to me in uppercase letters.What is his problem?,John what is your problem? On the other hand,this is a free country,and John is providing a service. for list members who have difficulty finding rare SG items.As long as no one gets swindled then no damage done,except maybe somebodys wallet.If enough people want these items I can imagine Just how expensive these Items will get. Oh yea,In the May issue of goldmine I saw BMF/SOMMS being auctioned,starting Bid $40.00.the address of the auctioneer was from Seattle. Gonzo At 03:57 PM 6/27/96 -0600,John wrote: >>I also decided to sell my copy of BadMotoorFinger/SOMMS by way of >>auction. So if you would like this, the bidding starts at $30. >Erin wrote: >Did I find my copy of Somms for really really cheap or something? It starts >at $30? American? God, that's expensive... > > > > Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I already see you've got it in for me... On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Carolyn Hanel wrote: > Okay, so someone better help me out here. I know Hater was (is?) a side-project of a couple of the SG guys. But how many albums do they have - - just the one? Worth buying? Anything like Soundgarden? Anything like any other band? (give me some info, please - maybe liken them to another here you go carolyn :) the hater is record has been described by a lot of people as a very garagey sort of thing, but I'm not so sure. the production is pretty good (done by the band themselves, but recorded by stuart hallerman, I believe), it's not lo-fi at all. you can also hear most of the instruments fairly well, so there are no problems there. as for the music itself, I think it rocks. ben wrote quite a lot of the stuff, and all of it is pretty cool. he sings on most of the songs as well, which is great. matt didn't write any music for the album, but wrote lyrics to the last track 'sad mcbain', which is possibly the best song on the record. the first track is a cat steven's cover, with added lyrics by ben (which he found legally difficult to arrange). the rest of them are nice songs, made up of stuff written by john mcbain (formerly of monstermagnet) and brian wood (andrew wood's brother). my favourite songs are definitely down undershoe, sad mcbain, roadside and who do I kill (which has the instruments panned in different speakers for a cool effect). you should get it soon carolyn. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Jac143@aol.com Subject: lolla 96 in wpb, fl anyone here in florida going 07/18? ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Soundgarden; PJam; beer; quote of the week Hi folks, Long time no talk. [sigh] I'm behind in my Somms reading - only 213 to = go after this one! Just thought I'd make the effort to actually post a = note of my own rather than simply reading............ 1. I was also surprised to see so many people bagging Louder Than Love = and praising Ultramega OK. [shrug] Each to their own, of course. But = for me, UMOK is my least favourite of all SG stuff (albums and EPs) - I = agree with Blind Dog (or Nothingdog?)in thinking that album shows Chris' = vocals at their worst (not fully developed). Ray, I do suggest you = relisten to LTL a few times - I remember that was one album that really = had to grow on me, but I grew to love it. "Uncovered" in particular is = so good! And the rest. Sure, if you don't like fast and energetic = music, then LTL is not for you. But if you like it furious and thrashy = or just plain LOUD, then listen again! :-) 2. I agree with the Pearl Jam supporters, Caryn & co - their songs have = meaning. I can identify with their songs. They DO make a difference in = peoples' lives. If they don't make a difference in yours, so be it. = But don't bag them on a mailing list that has nothing to do with them! = (well, alright - they DON'T "have nothing to do with" Soundgarden - = members of the two bands are mates, Eddie got CC into = snowboarding..........). 3. So tell me, Americans, what is this beer like that Soundgarden = recently promoted? Is it good stuff? Does it quench your thirst like = no other beer can? If so - then good luck to them!! :-) {but you must remember, there's no beer like good full strength = Australian beer (any VB fans out there??)} 4. Adrian Alcock wins the quote of the week when he wrote: >>Until then, enjoy the music. It's what it's there for. Hear, hear!! :-) Bye for now, Carolyn the Masked and Faulty You don't know me - you just know my name.......Butthole Surfers ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Re: To plec' or not to plec' (That is the question)? I own a plectrum with Kim Thayil's name on it.It came from the KOTS fan club welcome package that I received about 2 months ago.it is not plastic,but I can not remember what type of pick it is.I remember reading a feature about kim.He stated that The one thing he can not do is finger pick.I think he uses a pick all the time. Gonzo At 05:12 PM 6/27/96 +0100, you wrote: >> >> Dear all, >> for some reason, earlier on a question jumped into my head and >> I've been thinking about it ever since. So I thought I'd ask some people >> who might know. >> "Does anyone have any idea if Kim, Ben and Chris use plectrums or not"? >> If they do, do they all the time or just for certain songs? Which songs and >> why? > >The one time I saw them live, they were all using plectrums.. As far as i >could tell, anyway. > > Matt > > ------------------------------ From: cynsir@village.ios.com Subject: Feelin' Minnesota I can't believe I keep forgetting to post this... the film "FEELIN' MINNESOTA", starring Keanu Reeves, hits theatres Friday, September 27th. It's the start of a Full Moon, in case that means anything. I have no idea, but I can guess, about the plot. Cyn xoxo ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: lolla advice needed ok, i need some advice. I have never been to a lolla show in the first place. I really want to see Soundgarden, the Ramones and Metallica. BUT, would i be better off getting down front with all the mosh monsters and crowd-killer/surfers. AND, i would also like to see Sponge and Melvins on the 2nd stage. So, would i be better off getting their early and staying down front or just hangin in the back merrily dancing around without getting trampled? - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "So I take what is mine,and hold what is mine, suffocate what is mine, and bury what's mine. Soon the water will come and claim what is mine. I must leave it behind, and climb to a new place now." -"Flood", TOOL ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: Commercial Sounds emitting from the Garden At 11:21 PM 6/18/96 -0400, j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu wrote: > but lets take a look at recent career moves: Yes, let's do just that. . . >- Chris's haircut... i know this has been talked about and into the dirt, >but you just have to wonder.... Jeez, ya mean a guy can't cut his hair if he wants? he is getting kinda old. Besides, Kim has enough hair for all 4 of 'em >- Playing large auditoriums and coliseums (did they sell out the >venues?.. when i saw them, it was a less than enthusuastic crowd) Although SG probably has a good hand in dictating tour stuff, it' usually management that decides where they play--would it be cost effective to play small clubs charging $12 a head when you're carting your band around in 20 luxury buses? >- releasing "radio friendly" songs.. i know it has to be done, but they >seem to overdue it lately, especially since the next will be "burden in >my hand" When did they have a chance to actually "release" songs? If I remember correctly, BMF was when they first starting receiving national att'n. And that was after their 3rd single? (1)Rusty Cage (2)JCP (3)Outshined--plz correct me if i'm wrong. anyway, BHS=not that radio friendly. . . when i first heard it i thought the end dragged out too long, and it was kind of strange. I didn't think it would be that big. My Wave got tossed in the crapper, and Spoonman is about a guy who plays the fucking spoons for God's sake. The only "radio Friendly" song they released from sU would be FoBD. And the video sounds stranger than the album cut. >- can anyone say "lallapalooza"? Hey...they did it before they broke too. Besides, it's probably a fucking blast to be able to hang out with people other than your band and entourage when you're touring. >- that beer concert in vancouver. Oh yeah, they got paid about $250,000. >- is the Showbox concert in Seattle a publicity stunt? Nah....they haven't played live in 2 years. They probably figured they could use the practice, and if they fucked up, who would care? (1)not a bunch of dedicated Seattiltes who love SG (2)not a bunch of drunk bastards screaming "play Black Hole Sun!" (besides, it's $250,000!!!) >- those rumors about ben... well, i'm kinda like ben in how he thinks >about the media and their involvement of music. I say they were true. >- all the on-line interviews. Although they were fun, was it another >publicity stunt? I thought it was just being considerate and appreciative of the dedicated fans that they found to be on-line. Also a nod to the technology of the future, and a way to get closer to fans (kinda) >- Saturday night live.. say what you want, i thought it was an average >performance as far as enthusiasm, and Chris voice was straining. Face it--the performance was sub-par. Who knows why they did it... Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Hater.......Monster Magnet.......Tumbleweed.......The Mark Of Cain.......and even a touch of.......Soundgarden!! Look out! Here I am again (now with only 210 Somms posts yet to read!). Greg Dunbar asked: >>>> Also is Hater worth the $30? Who sings and are any of those guys = from=20 > Monster Magnet still in the band now? Aleko wrote: >>What!!! the guys from Monstermagnet were/are in Hater shit i better = rush=20 out and get Hater CDs. Did you see Monstermagnet on their ausie tour = with=20 Tumbleweed, they were great. On the songs from the Superunkown EP Kim wears a Monstermagnet shirt so at least he is a fan. HHMMMM Soundgadren touring with Monstermagnet we can only hope. Okay, so someone better help me out here. I know Hater was (is?) a = side-project of a couple of the SG guys. But how many albums do they = have - just the one? Worth buying? Anything like Soundgarden? = Anything like any other band? (give me some info, please - maybe liken = them to another band so I get the drift of what they're like) And Monster Magnet - got "Dopes To Infinity" recently. Great album. =20 (no, Brydon, I didn't get the bonus CD with it that was released in = Australia earlier this year - dammit all) =20 Tumbleweed are also good (brilliant live) - an Aussie band for you = northern-hemispherers to look out for. Aleko again: >>YES YES MArk of Cain are great, tightest band in the world with a = great=20 rhythm section......... Carolyn likes Mark of Cain as well, so that's at least three fans. We=20 should start a Mark of Cain list :) Ha ha! Definitely. (but how many posts behind would I be then?) The = Mark of Cain come from my state in Australia - gotta love em! {they are = on the tape I've just sent you, Vikki, along with Tumbleweed mentioned = above} >>.... nearly every rock band in existence has sounded like: Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, or blues at some point. Zepplin and the Beatles did a lot of different things so it would be stupid to=20 try and avoid any resembelence at all. Does your friend also hate=20 Badmotorfinger because its too similar too Black Sabbath? IMHO = Soundgarden takes the best bits from those great bands and moulds them into their = own=20 sound, that is Soundgarden. Its not a ripoff there are just similar=20 sounds or moods but you can't say Soundgarden are Zepplin clones. I agree completely with you, Alex. =20 Soundgarden =3D the best of all before them + the best of all to follow = them. That's it from me. Hooray, you say. =20 Carolyn the Mischievous & Flamboyant Thinking only screws me up - would you do my thinking for me?.......Even ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: Matt the Great At 07:17 PM 6/19/96 EDT, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > Btw can > anyone on the list play the drums to Cold Bitch? > Clown I CAN! I can't replicate the exact rolls, and it's easier when you also know the guitar part by heart. When I play SG songs, I say 'screw the counting' because it gets too damn confusing. I just follow in my head. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: stella Subject: Re: FS: HIV Baby/Room 1000 years wide on purple (black, too) At 06:55 PM 6/26/96 -0400, you wrote: >I'm selling my extra copies of HIV Baby/Room 1000 years wide. I have >both the black and grape vinyl versions. This is the promo single that >Sub Pop sent out to single club members. > >MB on grape = $20 >MB on black = $15 > > There are a bunch of places on the Web where u could prolly find these things too. And the good thing about it is that you don't have to put a bid in. Just do a yahoo search on Rare Records or Vinyl ep. I've found alot of great stuff, although I still haven't found a SOMMS at a good price. The lowest price I've found it was $60, and I'm NOT about to pay that much. ==================================================================== stella / \ /\ | |_| / \ \ \ / /\ \ http://www.fix.net/~srogers _\ \tell /\ \ srogers@fix.net | | | / / \ \ \ / /__/ \__\ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Commercialism Clown, our man of many words, wrote: >>In other words you can sell alot of records and have a lot of fans and make money w/o selling out. It's about the music, who cares if they decide to appear on all the shows, if the music doesn't suffer please shut up and stop whining. ClownWithBazooka, that was well said. Three cheers for you! (Maybe I'll have to give out TWO best quotes of the week) Yeah, I'm still here (with only 183 more posts to read), Carolyn the Metallic Fistful You aren't so young and so niave......Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: NtMF You know what I love? that little riff in NtMF i think it's after the second chorus and before the solo. You know "NEEH! neeh-ne-ne-nene-nunu" ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: SG at my door? At 02:30 PM 6/20/96 -0400, Moonsta693@aol.com wrote: > I'm going to ask all of you(including shroom, even though I could predict >what her answer will be)the same question a friend of mine asked me. > >1. If SG showed up at your door, and whanted to stay for the night, what >would you do?would you let them in and cook them dinner, or would you bother >them sooo much that they would want to leave? I'd cook 'em dinner. Hell, I'd let 'em have control over the remote. Just toss it between the four of 'em, and let them fight it out. Ben would probably win. Shit, they'd only get grilled cheese, tho. I'm a bad cook. >2. If Chris showed up at your door, alone, and says that he doesn't love his >wife anymore, and demanded sex from you, what would you do? 'course you >don't want to know my answer :) NO WAY! I'd say sorry Chris, love your music, but I'm straight. Give Susan a second chance. Okay this was just a response to humor myself Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ Subject: More on the Atlanta show... From: seth The non-Lolla Atlanta gig (July 22) starts at 6PM -- there's the usual no cameras/recorders warning. Tickets are $22.50 plus Ticketmaster service charges. seth ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: July 22 Soundgarden show!! & Cable Guy Kots wrote: >A SPECIAL SHOW ANNOUNCEMENT FOR SOUNDGARDEN FANS... > >SOUNDGARDEN WILL BE PERFORMING A THEATER SHOW IN ATLANTA, GEORGIA ON JULY 22!! Funny.. I got tix to this show weeks ago. I think the reason why they 'annouced' this again is: they aren't selling too well. And actually I don't mind at all. I wouldn't mind the band playing a small crowd leaving the atmosphere a little more intimate. If anyone plans to go let me know please. Thank you. Cable Guy note: The song playing in Matt Broderick's friend's car is the Toadies "Inattractive" & not any Soundgarden song as I heard somewhere around here. But as Shroom noted: it sounds a little like early Soundgarden. playing in the sand, ray ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: also BMF+SOMMS cd AUCTION On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Jaime Gonzalez wrote: > Personally, I do not care for this auction thing on the mailing list,let him > take it to Goldmine.By the way,he is doing this same auction thing on the > Alice In Chains list.On the AIC list,I e-mailed him asking for info about the > WE Die Young EP he was auctioning.I asked him if the EP was on CD or Vinyl, > Hey,I didn't honestly know and I wanted to know specifically what I may be > bidding for. > he replied back to me in uppercase letters.What is his problem?,John what is > your problem? his problem is that he's masquerading as a sg fan when all he is is someone trying to take advantage of the list and the fact that some of us are desparate for SOMMS and other material. when we were on line, the *first* thing he asked me and andrea was if people on this list were looking for SOMMS. not, is it a cool list, not, what is it like, not, what do you talk about. i don't have a problem with auctions per se -- i too have gotten some great deals -- it's just that here we are suppoed to be among fans. just like andrea, who could have sold her ticket last thursday for as much as $150 (or more), gave it to bonnie for $20, face value. chris sat at home thursday afternoon dialing like a maniac, and if we'd gotten more tickets, we would have given them to any other list member at cost, or would have stood outside the showbox that night and done the same thing. last year i went to see pearl jam in milwaukee. i got the ticket (at cost) from a fan on the mailing list who couldn't go. she had two tickets, i took her other one, and sold it (at cost) to a 10 year old kid who had NEVER seen pj before. there were scalpers out front selling tickets for $50 or more. if i go to a record store and i see somms or HIV baby for $60, i don't argue with them (i might try to bargain them down, like chris did tonight ;-) ). it is their store, their right to set what price they think is fair. if i see an ad in goldmine or on the newsgroup, listing prices or calling an auction, no problem, that person is a dealer or collector or store, or getting rid of stuff they don't care about any more. however, i'd like to think that on this list we are a community of fans who are not here to take advantage of each other. perhaps i'm just being naieve. if any regular list member was doing it, i'd also have far less of a problem (tho i would of course still argue with them ;-) ). i just feel that this person came barging in here, as it were, with the point of making maximum bucks and not contributing to the discussion in any way. and the fact taht he's also on the AIC list doing the same thing kind of backs up my point. then again, this is all of course just my opinion. if it means waiting to acquire the hiv baby single, so be it. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: 'punks' like Soundgarden Weird thing happened over at the Bad Religion Mail List. Someone brought up Soundgarden (using a line from Ty Cobb) in their message & a disclaimer about how no BR fans probably like Sg. Well, I commented on it, saying the same thing. This lead to an outpouring of discussion with all these 'punks' (in a nice way) admitting how they like Soundgarden. They laud all the members for their fine musicmanship & honestly musically. Most don't even consider them 'sell-outs'... pretty cool coming from people that basically like hardcore / punk solely. Many listed a ton of punk bands & Soundgarden & Rage Against the Machine as good bands. And even those that don't like the band at least admit their abilities... I'm impressed! (c: The band should feel pretty good about this stuff. Soundgarden is a highly repected band & for good reason. Too bad I think Rhinosaur was written for the 'punk' types. /c: ray "i'm nobody but genetic runaround" - 'Bad Religion' - Bad Religion - Bad Religion. (um.. song title, ep title & band name are all 'Bad Religion') ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 167] ****************************************