From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 14 Jun 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 14 Jun 1996 04:06:22 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 14 Jun 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: tighter and tighter. Re: soundgarden drags on? sg thru headphones & other first times Password Duets Thumbs & the like susan revealed Re: Aging musicians Re: tighter and tighter. who else wants to see iggy pop open for SG? bored bored bored bored bored clear vinal B-side + Love song stuff Re: half fanclub yeah Mayor's Love Song Thoughts Speeding to SG Re: Speeding to SG SG hit the Oz press bigtime songs Silver Grammy's? Wellwater Conspiracy/Super Electro Re: Mayor's Love Song Thoughts Re: Silver Grammy's? Re: new thread Re: tighter and tighter. Re: Shroom on Rockline New album.. sub pop sg info... DETAILS/CHRIS CORNELL INTERVIEW Re: sub pop sg info... huh? buttrock, candyshop... stand up and everyone will see... A dilemma resolved Re: Best Non-Album Tracks Re: A dilemma resolved speaking of susan... More lolla info... Re: Best Non-Album Tracks B-sides QUEENIE! Re: A dilemma resolved ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Stephen Frantz Subject: tighter and tighter. Hey, is anyone else out there totally addicted to Tighter and Tighter? This just has to be my fav soundgarden song at present. The end lyrics just say it all - 'I feel I'm going, fell I'm slowing down.....' Anyone else think the same? Stephen. 'Make no mistake, I am what you make me' ------------------------------ From: ZYPH19@aol.com Subject: Re: soundgarden drags on? I am a huge garden fan and whoever thinks they drag on doesnt realize they are priveleged to listen to such a great band for that much longer. I also think Chris is the greatest lyricist that has ever lived--no exagerrating. His songs have so much meaning--i think. What do you think of "an unkind," track 15 from down... written by ben? That is such a sweet song, same with "zero chance"--sounds like old garden. Keep emailin' me--I love to talk music, i.e. Metallica, PJ, AIC, STP, etc. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: sg thru headphones & other first times well, i've been listening to superunkown all week through headphones at work and it's become a fucking religious experience. i always listened to it in my car or while doing dishes (i don't know why, it was my favorite doing dishes music) and i don't know, it's also been a while too, maybe the sound has had some time to grow on me... i dunno... have you ever left an album and then come back to it and suddenly there are dimensions you've never seen before? it's always been the sign of an incredible talent to me... i also just remembered the first time i heard "girl u want"... i flew to milwaukee last july at the last minute to see pearl jam... i thought it was going to be their last show for some reason (the full story is on my web page if you are so interested ;-) ) anyway, the only way to get me there was to fly me on a red-eye charter into chicago and then i rented a car and drove to milwaukee... i got in around 5am and was on the road immediately, and as the sun was coming up the first thing i heard on *gak* Q101 was, you guessed it, "girl u want"! i knew it was devo immediately having been a big fan back then, and then i knew it was sg immediately as soon as i heard chris! i swear i almost crashed the damn rental car.... which of course led to my quest for a copy of SOMMS that cost less than $80. i' ve been wondering about the spin fashion spread... and i wonder if it wasn't just what the guys were wearing at the time? i just can't see them dressing up, and this is because of something susan silver specifically mentioned in "hype!". they were showing how "grunge" became a fashion trend and how vogue et al were doing fashion layouts showing "grunge fashion", and susan said (i'm paraphrasing here) how pissed off she got at these magazines who called her up presuming that she would allow her clients to participate in such a farce. she wouldn't do it then, i can't see her doing it now. dena, you said the other night that you read that "hype!" got distribution - -- do you remember where you read this?? anyway, off to sleep - --caryn * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "I'm not living in a cocoon and painting it with bright colors and putting up little fiesta bulbs. I am aware of what's going on around me enough to be disturbed by it at some point on a daily basis." - --chris cornell http://www.nwlink.com/~clr : radio ethiopia ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Password Is there a new password to get onto the private mailing list page? I can't get in with the old password. What's up Seth? Kathie ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Duets I know this is an old subject, but I've been thinking about it since the thread started and finally came up with an idea. I was listening to Hole yesterday and I think a Courtney Love/Chris Cornell duet would be awesome. Of course I don't know how they would get along personality-wise, but I think they'd sound great. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Warren Dyson Subject: Thumbs & the like Morning folks!, I just thought I'd take a break to give y'all my opinion on the thumbs of a guitar player.... Well, err.. Someone mentioned having to use the thumb to stabilize your guitar while you're playing it, and for the most part I'd have to agree. But sometimes, when I'm playing a riff which requires a huge span (e.g. a riff which contains hammer-ons from the 1st to the 6th fret) I have this tendency to use my thumbs. If you can imagine the guitar neck lying flat, and your hand just hovering over it (little pinky above 1st, thumb above 6th fret) then you're nearly there :) But I STILL don't really see the point of having double jointed thumbs ! Well, apart from the G chord thing.... KIM THAYIL, If you're out there, PLEASE enlighten us :) One last question.... Has anyone else worked out BUTOW yet?, 'cos if not I'll post it tommorrow sometime. Much Respect, +============================================================================+ | | | WaRreN DySOn - _____ .__ .__ | | / \ ____ ____________|__|____ | |_ | | Guitar / \ / \_/ __ \/ ___/ ___/| |\__ \| \ | | / Y \ ____\___ \___ \| |/ __ | T \ | | \____|__ /\__ /____ /___ /|__|___ |__| / | | \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ \/ | | | | & Computer Programmer - warren@anchor.co.uk | | | | "I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to | | anyone, but they've always worked for me." | | -- Hunter S. Thompson | | | +============================================================================+ ------------------------------ From: jammie Subject: susan revealed ASDRUM: i gotta agree that the rolling stone picture of susan silver was really not a very flattering one...i mean, let's be honest, she looked about 10 years older than chris in the picture, but actually last yr after superunknown came out, there was a really great interview w/ Chris Cornell in Request magazine and one of the pictures they showed was chris and susan, it looked like they were at some big event or something, and i must say, she looked BEAUTIFUL!! not saying she turned me on of course...heheheh, but i just thought i'd mention how jealous i am :) (of her job, stunning looks and..."accessories" ;) ) buh bye sommsters! jammie (god i wish eddie vedder would buy me a snowboard :) ) ------------------------------ From: firebug@canuck.com Subject: Re: Aging musicians > I just saw Ozzy in concert last night, and I began to think. But first > of all I should mention that they did not play Into the Void :( and that > Ozzy personally said that there would be no Black Sabbath reunion :( :( > Anyway, Ozzy is 47 years of age, and during Suicide Solution, during the > incredibly self-absorbed guitar solo, he left the stage. This is not too > surprising. The funny thing was, that this member of the crew helped him > down the stairs. It was a funny scene. Here's this guy who has led this > incredible, wild life, and he's being taken by the elbow to walk down > stairs. It made me wonder what will happen when Soundgarden reaches this > age? Could anybody visualize this? (Little Shroom taking poor old Chris > by the arm to help him off the stage (to perform obscene acts backstage)) > Any thoughts?? > Geoff I saw him play on Sunday and he did the exact same thing, but there were no stairs for him to be helped down. They actually helped him walk off the stage and it was just a level floor, quite funny. But i don't think that soundgarden will reach that point ever. They will probably stop while they're still good and not drag on like all those older bands who have lost a lot of fans because you can practically see them aging on stage. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: tighter and tighter. From: "Matthew Lawrence" > > > > Hey, is anyone else out there totally addicted to Tighter and Tighter? Absolutely.. :) It's the type of song that makes your spine shiver. The arpeggios over "I'm gone" do that all the time. Plus it has one of the best guitar solos on the album, IMHO. Who thinks it's about Susan? Cause they must spend a huge amount of time apart.... Just a thought. Matt ------------------------------ From: Chris Mansfield Subject: who else wants to see iggy pop open for SG? caryn rose: >okay, while i'm here -- HEY GUYS! YO! how about having iggy pop open >for you when you tour in september???? i would like to second this motion. :) i think armageddon would occur during and after this show. i don't care if you *have* seen SG live; you have not been kicked in the head by rock'n'roll until you've experienced a live iggy pop show. i saw him at the showbox here in seattle a couple of months ago and that show is now tied for first on my top 5 concerts attended list. (and considering how huge a pearl jam fan i am and have seen them 3 times that's *quite* an accomplishment.) iggy makes 99% of the alternayouth bands out there today look like the complete joke they are. 100% fun, loud, in-yer-face decadence. :) so how 'bout it guys? :) :) :) :) Chris ------------------------------ From: Chris Mansfield Subject: bored bored bored bored bored so... mr. cameron... what *would* you do if you found chris lying naked in a field and no one around? j/k :) :) Chris ------------------------------ From: info@onpublications.com (ONPublications) Subject: clear vinal Can anyone tell me how limited the clear vinal is? The shop near me has one but I don't want to cough up if it isn't too rare - please email me privately 'cos I'm off the list for me summer hols - I'm at work and the boss doesn't appreciate me spending hours on the net :( Missing you all, Andy ps. WAY TO GO SHROOM!!! I am humble in you presence :) (I occasionally get to check out the web page when he's gone!) ------------------------------ From: DKAASC@tevm2.nsc.com Subject: B-side + Love song FROM: Kazam Ali Personal Computer/Network Specialist Computer and Network Support SUBJECT: B-side + Love song Wow! More and more great thread ideas: In response to Limo Wreck's idea of the best B-sides....I would HAVE to go with Birth Ritual(unquestionably SG's best song) and Like Suicide(acoustic). Hands down. No argument.(ok, I could also sneak in Homicidal/Suicidal AND Show Me)........If anyone EVER has the chance to pick up Fresh Deadly Rarities, GET IT!! It's probably one of the very best additions to any CD collection. Now going to Mayor's idea of the 'unbridled love song',,, the answer just reeks of Somewhere(shows Ben in his finest writing style) and like someone else had posted, Call Me A Dog(It just seems like one of those songs that you would sing to your girlfriend if you fucked up the relationship or somethin'!) My thoughts, Kazam "The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering." - Brandon Bruce Lee Feb. 1, 1965 - Mar. 31, 1993 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ From: Cookie Monster Subject: stuff Okay, what if they used to read the digest a while ago, and maybe only once or twice and now we all sit here like dumm asses thinking they still read it?? Just a thought, dont flame me okay?? Chris <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> <><><><><><><><><><> <>members.tripod.com/~GoatSniff<>< <><><><>kreidl@newrock.com<><><><> <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Re: half fanclub Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, Wanna help me finish my ben homepage??? I started it, but haven't had time to get to serious. I really would like to get it going and any input large or small would be appreciated. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite ------------------------------ From: "Thomas D. Ozbirn" Subject: yeah - ---------- From: ClownWithBazooka[SMTP:dao5@lehigh.edu] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 1996 8:51 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Shroom Sommsters, Where is nothingman? He went a whole digest without a post, what the = hell is going on!? Hmm.. brief dotu comment, I am sure that everyone one = the list knows I would rather hear totd w/o Mike McCreedy but now that I = have dotu I pretty much know what it would have sounded like if sg played = all those songs. Dotu and totd are pretty much in the same vein. It's = just very interesting, In a year I wonder how many people will rate dotu = as there favorite album as compared to now. I hated totd when I first = got it, it was 2 whole years before I really loved it. Anyway congrats to = shroom and I will talk to you all later. Clown =20 <*> i think you're on to something, that might explain why i like this = album so much (as compared to other sg albums), but just a question, do = you not like mcready's playing on the temple of the dog??? ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Mayor's Love Song Thoughts Thank Christ Soundgarden doesn't do "Hootie/Richard Marx/Deborah Gibson Love Songs". Too many bands out there will write a song, then the stupid ass singer will fill it with shitty lines like "Pour some sugar on me" or "Baby, you give good love" or some shit like "everything I do . . . I do it for you". That's 48% why soundgarden is so good. Who want's to hear songs about the same fucking thing all day long (ie Love). GOD I HATE LOVE SONGS!!! It's so cliche and lacks imagination. "Nowhere but You" and "Fluttergirl" were both the closest to love songs I agree. But they both are more "regret" songs then "unabashed love" songs. Whoever thought "somewhere" was a love song . . . explicate the lyrics . . . I've always thought the same but it's really more general than that I think. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Speeding to SG I got my first speeding ticket ever while listening to Like Suicide :) It was during the heavy guitar solo at the end. I was going 75 in a 50 zone (thats km/h). onefellswoop wrote: > others. Even the lyric "let your motor race" in PN, is enough to elicit > a full throttle response. Any other SG/Speed freaks out there? > Geoff ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: Speeding to SG On Jun 13, 11:19am, Chris Mackenzie wrote: > Subject: Speeding to SG > I got my first speeding ticket ever while listening to Like Suicide :) It was during the heavy guitar solo at > the end. I was going 75 in a 50 zone (thats km/h). i think that is Kim's best solo ever imho :) - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: redfive@ozonline.com.au (Hando) Subject: SG hit the Oz press bigtime Yo Yo sommsters, Still alive, and lovin' the digest daily ( the only email i get ). Just downloaded Shroom's wavfile from Seth's page - Shroom, U GOT DA FLAVA!! If you're as knockout as your picture on the mailing list bio's, why the hell is Susan Silver married to Chris and not you??? ( of course, I'm sure the picture is wishful thinking, OR IS IT??) Anyway, da big news here in Oz is that the local music press has confirmed that SG will be here by the end of the year. YEEEE - HAAAA!!!!! One of Melbourne's music papers has an interview with CC as well as a full colour front page pic o' the boyz. If I get the time I might transcribe it... see what happens. Oh yeah, those sommsters from OZ and abroad who want me to copy the DOTU promo video - I haven't forgotten you, but I've been busy organising an interstate tour for one of the bands I manage. I'll try to get something happening in the next couple o' weeks. Did anyone in Oz or elsewhere buy the Rusty Cage single pack years ago with the 3 - clip Soundgarden video for Aus.$9.95? Was this Australian only or what?? I know I'm slow, but I just checked out the somms t-shirt on Seth's page. Way cool!! If I could just get some cash together.... Currently 3:25 am in cold ol' Collingwood, Victoria, Australia, and about 2 degrees C. Time for Zzzzzzz's Bye folks, take it easy. Hando redfive@ozonline.com.au " You gave me the good stuff, and I swallowed it whole, I'm the sellout king, and I sold my soul " Ricaine - " Born to Lose " from " Intore - The Cold Grey Rain " ------------------------------ From: "Thomas D. Ozbirn" Subject: songs =09 to everyone who has been talking about love songs... i heard mention of = call me a dog, but wouldn't songs like say hello to heaven and reach = down be akin to love songs.. maybe not mushy ass stuff but they showed a = lot of feeling for someone and i think they come closer to love (but not = w/ the opposite sex) to me that hits me harder than anything else kevin ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (Chris (SGardnGrl)) Subject: Silver Grammy's? Hey...ASDrum.... I was right there watching the Grammy's, thinking the same thing you were...."Where is Susan?" I too, thought, I'm sure Susan will be right there next to her babies, Soundgarden. But NO...she wasen't even there! I was looking forward to seeing her with Chris, (as a couple) Rarely do you see them together... I was thinking that she would be beaming with pride, and not miss an event such as her band, and hubby recieving not one, but two Grammy's! If I was Susan, I would have not missed it for the world! My good friend is a regional manager for Tower Records, (and her hubby also did the artwork for "Fell on Black Days" single) and she got in invitation to one of the "after" parties and she saw Chris all buy his lonesome (no wife in tow)...I can't help but wonder..."where was Susan????" Home sick maybe??? I have to tell ya... I don't care if I was running a fever of 104 degrees, and dying...I would have been there next to my husband without whimper!!!!!!!! SGardnGrl ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Wellwater Conspiracy/Super Electro I stumbled across a groovy find today... A Super Electro Homepage! Who or what the hell is Super Electro you ask? Why, its "Wellwater Conspiracy"'s record label... Who or what the hell is Wellwater Conspiracy you ask? Its a Matt Cameron/Ben Shepherd/John Paul McBain side project (Hater minus two members) Anyways, there is a bit of Wellwater/Hater info there as well as an order form for the "Trowerchord" 7" (only 1000 made). I recommend that anyone should get this if they can, Matt Cameron sings on the track "Green Undertow". Ben sings on "Trowerchord". The page said that Hater and Wellwater Conspiracy should both be releasing 7"s on Super Electro this year. As well, it said that Wellwater Conspiracy will be releasing a CD on Third Gear records. Check it out at: http://www.subpop.com/superelectro/index.html ------------------------------ From: GARIBAY V MARIANA L Subject: Re: Mayor's Love Song Thoughts On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Mayor McCheese wrote: > > That's 48% why soundgarden is so good. Who want's to hear songs about > the same fucking thing all day long (ie Love). GOD I HATE LOVE SONGS!!! > It's so cliche and lacks imagination. > Yea I hate love songs too!!. And nobody seems to understand me around here. Love songs are so stupid, you don't need a brain to write something like You're the most beautiful girl i've seen. Carajo, that's why I like rock, bands like Sg, really have excellent lirycs. There are a lot more things in this world besides love to talk about. Mariana. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Silver Grammy's? At 11:07 AM 6/13/96 -0700, Chris (SGardnGrl) wrote: >I was right there watching the Grammy's, thinking the same thing you >were...."Where is Susan?" I too, thought, I'm sure Susan will be right >there next to her babies, Soundgarden. But NO...she wasen't even there! she was probably there, but might not have been able to be seated as the same row as the band. ;-( there's always a HUGE seating shortage at these awards shows, and they put the artists down front for maximum camera exposure, and there are always more artists than there are seats. she might have been sitting in front or behind, or they might just have asked for the 4 band seats and susan was sitting with other family members further back in the artist guest seats. another possibility is that as the manager of two internationally successful rock bands, she might have been BUSY WORKING! i know someone who works down near the silver mgmt offices and she talks about seeing susan there early sunday mornings. it's a huge, tough job and she's incredibly professional. the other thing i have heard (and again, i'm not a close friend of the family, so this is of course hearsay) is that they have a very independent marriage in which both of them have lots of space... the grammys are NOT a lot of fun to go to in some ways, especially for someone like susan who is her own person -- to be there as "the wife of" can't be a lot of fun for her. has nothing to do with pride/love/etc. it's a lot of sitting around and waiting... you're there for HOURS... i know i sound like eddie vedder now, but it really is not all that much fun! the parties, on the other hand... that's a different story. ;-> - --caryn ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: new thread My favorite b-sides are: Toy Box - This is better than just about anything they've ever done. I just don't think it's too Soundgarden. When Chris yells "please take me back to this little girl's hand"... chills I tell you.. CHILLS! Fresh Deadly Roses - Like Toy Box... it's not very reminiscent of early Soundgarden but another amazing heart jerking, emotionally record. Can You See Me - I just really love this song. Soundgarden doing Hendrix & adlibbing silly lyrics. Ya gotta love it (c: Sub Pop Rock City - Simply because of the idea of using a phone conversation in a song with Chris pretending to be Poneman & Pavitt (all though no one believes that). Also I vote this as the best ending to a song. "bye..." - -cymbal crash- (c: Show Me - Ben wrote it. What more needs to be said? (by the way, I'll vote for Shroom 96 as long as Ben's her running mate.. imagine the stories the: "hell ya I inhaled... ") Birth Ritual (demo version) - It simply kills the version on Singles & yes, that's saying an awful lot. Cold Bitch - I dated her. (c: OK.... I could go on forever (all though I'd eventually run out of songs & neglect to find the reason why I still never skip Motorcycle Loop) but I'll end this with a resounding thud. A resounding thud. out, ray ------------------------------ From: stella Subject: Re: tighter and tighter. At 03:42 PM 6/13/96 +1000, you wrote: > > >Hey, is anyone else out there totally addicted to Tighter and Tighter? > >This just has to be my fav soundgarden song at present. > >The end lyrics just say it all - 'I feel I'm going, fell I'm slowing >down.....' > >Anyone else think the same? > > >Stephen. > >'Make no mistake, I am what you make me' > > Yeah I love it too! It's so awesome and it's just so mellow. It'll put u in a trance. Sleep tight for me, stella ------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: Shroom on Rockline Ive been on the list 2 months so far, and Ive never visited the private page! (sorry ;) What's the super secret password so I can check out Shroom's performance? ------------------------------ From: Paul Mc Guigan <101540.3051@CompuServe.COM> Subject: New album.. Squigs from sunny Scotland here just writing to ask you guys what you think of the new album. Personally I think it kicks ass although I still prefer Badmotorfinger to anything they've done. This is my first mail so please anybody wanting to dispute my comment feel free to bust my ass!!! Also, do any of you guys know when they'll be touring over here in Scotland? So far I've heard jackshit.... Squigs.. ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: sub pop sg info... heh, after reading ray's recent thread about "sub pop rock city", i remembered that i once downloaded a sample of this from the sub pop site,so i went there to see if i could find it again... if you go to band information and select soundgarden, you now go to the *iMusic* site. *gak* at least there was some real information on the sub pop site! and more importantly it didn't take a year to load AND accomodated those of us normal people with slow modems... *sigh* i don't get it. what, does matt have a T1 at home or something? otherwise you would think he would have NOTICED how long it takes... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: erin@planet.eon.net Subject: DETAILS/CHRIS CORNELL INTERVIEW >Any other SG/Speed freaks out there? Uh, yeah.. I've never gotten a speeding ticket though (by some stroke of blind luck). Listening to music (especially when I'm singing along) makes me go very fast.. Scary (not to me but to those poor people who drive with me.. :) ) I live in the country so there aren't that many cops around, but in the city the fastest I usually go is about 120km/h in a 60 zone.. Whoops.. That'd be one hell of a large ticket.. :) Erin ------------------------------ Subject: Re: sub pop sg info... From: seth > heh, after reading ray's recent thread about "sub pop rock city", i > remembered that i once downloaded a sample of this from the sub pop > site,so i went there to see if i could find it again... it's still there. you just have to go through the discography and find SP25, which is the catalog number for sub-pop-200. there is a link to a page for that release which has, among other things, the clip for "sub pop rock city." > if you go to band information and select soundgarden, you now go to the > *iMusic* site. well, sub pop is an official label, and imusic has the official soundgarden site, so... seth ------------------------------ From: Neuromute@aol.com Subject: huh? > I KNOW IT!! Well, we always suspected that someone from the band was >checking out the list. But I still don't think that it was Matt who wrote >Seth before the album was released. Of course... what the hell do I know? >I've been up for 30 hours!! What's the deal with this person who wrote to Seth before the album was released? Story please.... Brian - -- We were three, Kevin's mom made four (We don't come around anymore) ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: buttrock, candyshop... On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Limo Wreck wrote: > what are the best B-sides, or songs off EP's or soudtracks/compilations that > you think Soundgarden has done?.... my opinion is that those are some of the I would have to go for cold bitch (cool and haunting, with one of matt's best-ever recorded rolls), blind dogs (haunting too, but not so reliant on chris' admittedly super vocals), toy box (I've only heard it once, but it floored just about everything off ultramega), she's a politician (a masterwork, which should have easily found room to breathe on bmf) and two of chris' solo performances - seasons and nowhere but you (this guy doesn't have a half bad voice, really). and speaking of bsides, jerry cantrell's song from the cable guy soundtrack (leave me alone) kicks much booty :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: stand up and everyone will see... On Thu, 13 Jun 1996, Limo Wreck wrote: > > I got my first speeding ticket ever while listening to Like Suicide :) It > i think that is Kim's best solo ever imho :) *that's* a thread that I've wanted to start for a couple of weeks now :) I think kim has been a little under-rated when it comes to soloing, so I'm just wondering now that we have seen his development from screaming life through to down on the upside, what do you fellow sommsters feel kim's best solo is? I have to agree with jeremy that his lead break from like suicide is damn cool, but I wouldn't say it is easily his best. at the moment I like his searing leads from tighter and tighter. the way he throws out *so* many great blues licks and gels with matt so well makes me grin from ear to ear :) I'm also in awe of his almost non-lead break during never named, the one that sounds like he is just standing in front of his amp, looking for feedback. any thoughts? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: A dilemma resolved I've been thinking for a while, who really is my most favorite band? I've always had this dilemma as to whether it's Smashing Pumpkins or Soundgarden. The first CD I ever bought was by Soundgarden. On the other hand, Siamese Dream is, to me, *the* standard for a completely perfect album, from first to last track. Soundgarden comes very close, but there are always 1 or 2 tracks I skip on each album. I'm not sure anyone can really convince me that SG's music is better than SP's music, and vice versa. I'll never be able to resolve that question. I was thinking about this question again this week. I finally resolved it after seeing and hearing a few stuff. I saw the video for "Pretty Noose" lots more times, and suddenly I became attracted to the song. Before, I thought, "It's just a single that I'll like for a while, then get sick of it because of radio overkill." But no, the video is so addictive and *so* fucking cool. It's so awesome seeing the video: Kim playing pool, Ben smoking, Chris sitting at the end of the bed, Matt riding the motorcycle. God, they're so calm and cool. It seems like they don't give a fuck what anyone says bad about them. They just act themselves and make incredible music. They don't give in to the whole rock scene and act like people they're not, or sell out. They're all very handsome and good looking. Yes, I'm a guy and yes, I'm straight, but so what if I say that? Kim, especially, he has to be the greatest person. He's so cool, he's got that cool-ass beard and all, he's funny, he doesn't do stupid shit, he doesn't care what anyone says, he just goes out and plays guitar like no one else can. What does SP do? Billy shaves his head and looks so weird They all dress so weird in their videos. Why can't Smashing Pumpkins be normal about something? Why is every fucking song about sadness and dreariness? I thought, "Smashing Pumpkins has such good music. Why can't they put out a decent video? Billy is so confusing. What's he so upset about and why is everything dark and sad? (Watch the video for "Zero") Why are they dressed up so weird in the "Tonight Tonight" video?" It's almost as though I'm sick of SP's attitude towards everything. Why can't they be happy and funny like Soundgarden? I was listening to the Modern Rock Live interview, and my God, the boys are so damn funny and carefree. Who are these fucking journalists saying that Chris' lyrics are bleak and pessimistic? If you really follow Soundgarden, you can see how much fun they're having, and by listening to their humor in interviews, and everything. They get to make music for a living. I would kill for a job like that. I don't understand it, people have this cultish obsession following SP. I'm on the SP mailing list, and you should see what real obsession is, God it's 10 times worse than Shroom's, if you thought she was bad. I mean, people have posted stuff about their friends committing suicide over SP's music, and there's even a separate mailing list to post thoughts and discussion of SP's lyrics. Imagine how depressing that list must be. SUICIDE! God, it's only music. There's more important things than music, such as family and friends. Some people base their lives on Billy and what he says and does, and that's just wrong. I know music is important to lots of people, including me, and it certainly holds special meaning, but some people go way beyond the limit. Shroom (sorry, I can't stop talking about her :-) has a good grip on her love for Chris, and that's admirable. I don't think she'd commit suicide over Chris or follow him blindly like a puppet, as people do for Billy. So, I finally decided that Soundgarden is definitely my favorite band. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate Smashing Pumpkins. I love Smashing Pumpkins, and always will, but when I think about the attitudes and the whole attitude toward them, I realize the greatness of Soundgarden. I mean, just look at this list. We have Seth (thanks man!) who puts in a countless number of hours on the list and the web page. The web page is the best on the net, and even the band likes it. We have list members so devoted to the list, and to contributing stuff for the web page. We all have our heads on straight, and have our love for Soundgarden under control, as it should be. Did I resolve my dilemma properly? Is my reasoning correct? Someone please talk to me by e-mail. Thanks for listening, Vasant ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED-Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't feel like feeling, feeling like you"-Face Pollution-Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Re: Best Non-Album Tracks "Birth Ritual" has to be *the* best track not on an album. I honestly can say that I have never heard a cooler and better riff than that song's . And the second best is, of course, "Jesus Christ Pose". The 2 greatest riffs in rock history, both by the greatest band in history. ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED-Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't feel like feeling, feeling like you"-Face Pollution-Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: A dilemma resolved dude, that is a very good analysis of music. I agree with the thoughts about SP and their fans. I do think that Corgan is a bit self obsessive and some of their fans follow the Corganites much too weirdly. And thanks for recognizing Seth as a great man. He has devoted so much time to creating THE best page for a band that I have ever laid eyes on. Hear hear to Seth!! jerm ------------------------------ From: ~Flutter Girl~ <76345.3722@CompuServe.COM> Subject: speaking of susan... I'm curious to know whether anyone saw this magazine or not: Back in 1990, I was leafing through some rock/metal mag (the name fails me now) and I remember them having a page about Chris and Susan's wedding. It wasn't an article, just some pictures of them after the ceremony and some stupid caption that was joking about how his hair was longer then hers (god how I miss those locks sometimes). Did anyone else ever see this? And secondly, I want to thank you all for making my Soundgarden life so much fuller. It means so much to me to be able to be isanely devoted to them and you guys be the same way. Either we're all nuerotic or we just know exactly where the others are coming from. Probably both. Ok, enough mushy stuff. Luv, ~Flutter Girl~ ------------------------------ From: cstone@Phoenix.kent.edu (HasNoName) Subject: More lolla info... Hello again, and sorry of this was discussed here before (I've only been glimpsing at subjects recently.) 1. A local radio station is holding a contest with a prize of seeing Lolla (and SG) in San Francisco on July 28. I guess that means Laramie, WY on that date is out. 2. An ad in a local (NE Ohio) freebie rag sez that the Violent Femmes will be the Special Guest for the July 3 Columbus date (the one I'm going to.) Although I was hoping they'd have the Cocteau Twins, Cheap Trick, or even Waylon there, it'll be nice to see them again (IMHO.) What I'm wondering is, has anyone seen announcements like that for other areas? Carl - -Carl M Stone--NOT INSANE! IN '96--KSU parks it and locks it, NOT RESPONSIBLE- Bear Whiz Beer: It's in the water! That's why it's yellow! -- Firesign Theatre http://nimitz.mcs.kent.edu/~cstone/ for Lolla.inf,FiresgnThtre,tapetrading,etc ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Best Non-Album Tracks At 09:01 PM 6/13/96 -0600, Vasant Ramamurthy wrote: >"Birth Ritual" has to be *the* best track not on an album. I honestly can >say that I have never heard a cooler and better riff than that song's. right on....to this day no other sg song affects me the same way... it's a great "just got home from a sucky day at work and boy am i PISSED' song to blast too... - --caryn ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: B-sides >what are the best B-sides, or songs off EP's or soudtracks/compilations that >you think Soundgarden has done? well here is my list of best B-sides and etc. ( in no particular order ) Heretic Girl U Want Birth Ritual Cold Bitch Kyle Petty, son of Richard Toy Box Touch Me She like Suprises speaking about B-sides is that what "Christy" and "Karoke" will become?? Excuse the stupidness of this question... wasnt there a thread about "which SG song reflects your life at the moment???" I can swear I read that awhile back.. so if that thread did indeed exist... I am now replying to it.. The SG songs that sum up life at the moment? For the last couple of months I would have to say that it was FELL ON BLACK DAYS...but recently it would have to be DUSTY or NO ATTENTION. Whiteout! Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: QUEENIE! > Seriously though... this list is probably one of the coolest things I've >ever come across in my lifetime (it, the actual band, and shrooms of course). > And I've got my bestest internet bud to thank for it, Dena (HEY MATT, HER >NAME IS DENA, NOT EVA!!)... AKA Geek Girl. She's the one who turned me on >to >the list and page last November. By the way DMC, I got your mail today!! > Heheheh... check out one of my quotes at the end of this post... Oh SHROOM(us)( or should I say QUEENIE ?) I didn'nt know you cared so much.. heheh!!!!! >Sleep to SG? I think if I was to sleep to Applebite I'd have nightmares -> >that song still sends shivers down my spine and I NEVER play it late at night... Whimp...( just kidding!!) I love APPLEBITE!! it's so umm.....depressing and dark!! I will agree with Queenie ( Shroom)... it does sound like an intro to a t.v. show form the 70's!.... ah well... Dena :)~ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: A dilemma resolved From: seth > And thanks for recognizing Seth as a great man. He has devoted so much > time to creating THE best page for a band that I have ever laid eyes on. everyone says really nice things about what i do, and i thank you for that. remember though that it is all of us working together as a collective soundgarden fan-team that makes both the list and the unofficial page possible. i am going on vacation later today, and won't be back until next weekend. i will be avoiding enjoyment of my vacation by taking time every night to log in from home and compile the daily digest, so if you send me mail in the next week, i will probably get it, and i will definitely respond to it if it's urgent. i'm going out with a bang -- lots of additions to the page before i go to sleep tonight. thanks to all who contributed. take care everyone, seth ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 155] ****************************************