From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 13 Jun 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 13 Jun 1996 01:35:11 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 13 Jun 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: The list that feels like family sleeping to SG? This Kiss/SG tour rumor thingie going around freebie #2 Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy! Re: Heheheh... LONG POST!!! Beware!! Nothingman? Re: Heheheh... LONG POST!!! Beware!! Lallapalloza (spelling?) Dates lolla info needed!! thumbs. DETAILS/CHRIS CORNELL INTERVIEW rockline. Soundgarden of course.....duh I love you guys!! Where's Hiro? thumb wrestlin' Re: Nothingman? Re: Heheheh... LONG POST!!! Beware!! SHROOM, YOU RULE! Way to go Shroom!! Re: kiss (argh!) ROTFLMAO One more congrats... Love Song Re: kiss (argh!) Re: sleeping to SG? Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 12 Jun 1996 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 12 Jun 1996 Lighten' Up Buttercup! Is it me? Re: soundgarden drags on? Re: Lighten' Up Buttercup! Tori Experience and Soundgarden Re: soundgarden drags on? half fanclub littlejoe? where are you? as the seasons roll on by... Shroom Re: Love Song it's just an anchor on my heart... new thread Re: it's just an anchor on my heart... RE: Lighten' Up Buttercup! DOtU UK clear vinyl Aging musicians Re: DETAILS/CHRIS CORNELL INTERVIEW SG stuff What film? Re: Lighten' Up Buttercup! Re: Tori Experience and Soundgarden Re: soundgarden drags on? Lolla/Rockline/Feeling Minnesota ------------------------------------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: The list that feels like family I actually feel lonely tonight after two nights of chatting with fellow listers. Even though the Rockline thing didn't happen, we all made the best of it and I really had a good time. Now this is coming from someone who never felt comfortable in the chat situation before. It always goes so fast and I don't know all the little symbols and abbreviations. But Sunday and Monday it was like I was talking to old friends! How can that be when we've never even met? It amazes me how close I can feel to people I've met through this list. I really don't have much else to say (truthfully I just can't find the words). The experience was downright invigorating (hee hee). And Sunday we actually got to get as close as some of us may ever get to the guys in Soundgarden!(Even though their answers to our questions were a bit "brief" and pretty obviously evasive for the most part). But really, how in depth could anyone get under the circumstances. Anyway, thanks guys for two great nights. We really ought to get together more often. Kathie ------------------------------ From: stephen napoles Subject: sleeping to SG? Hmmmmmm, I've been thinking about this sleeping to SG thing, especially after Limo Wreck's post. Except for half on his post and applebite (maybe), I don't think that I could sleep to SG. Believe me, I've tried to sleep to them. It has even occurred once or twice when I went to sleep with the radio on that I was WOKEN UP by a SG song because I liked it so much. The problem is that SG's music gets me too wired when I'm listening to it. I'm always either singing along or trying to decipher Matt's playing. Especially with songs like Limo Wreck, 4th of July, or really anything off of BMF or earlier. It's all energetic to me. It makes me want to go next door and get other people up to listen to it. (As you can see I don't. That's how I'm still capable of writing this post) I wonder how many other Sommer's are in this camp of sleep and SG. Stephen ------------------------------ From: stephen napoles Congratulations to you Shroom. You should be glad that you were able to speak at all when you were connected. My brain has a no high stress clause in its contract with me that causes it to shut down whenever I have to speak to someone who is really important to me (or really attractive, it's not condusive to asking someone out on a date) We should send you a card and maybe pass out cigars. Smiling for/because of you, Stephen ------------------------------ From: stella Subject: This Kiss/SG tour rumor thingie going around First of all thanks to everyone who told me the pw. Gosh do i feel stupid. Anyways, I'm not sure if we got that Kiss tour rumor comfirmed (sp?) or not but Kiss is gonna be on this call in radio show called LoveLine. It's this syndicated show so I don't know who gets it or what stations its gonna be on. I get it and it starts at 10 pm. Anyways, since it's a call in show, someone should just call up and ask Kiss themselves if SG is gonna tour with them. They're suppose to be on Father's day sunday. I'll try to call but I've tried to call that show before and always get busy signals. Sleep tight for me, stella ------------------------------ From: Eric Gardner Subject: freebie #2 Ok, I was a bit overzealous when the vinyl DotU was released and I wound up with an extra copy. It has been opened but only played a few times. If you would like this (and you have a turntable), let me know. As I did with the SuperUnKnown cd, I will put all the names of those who want it in a hat and have someone draw one out (my wife or the clown I work with:). Eric ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Happy! Happy! Joy! Joy! Well, it only took 26 days, but I FINALLY got some satisfaction from TicketMaster when my Lolla tickets arrived yesterday! Yippie! I'm going to the show. And I even got 4 tickets, just like I wanted (as opposed to the 8 I thought I might get). Never enter the wrong credit card number... Hey Nothingman, are we going to have shirts before Charlestown? Or are you sitting on a beach somewhere spending our t-shirt money =:^O Greg ------------------------------ From: Jovica Popovic Subject: Re: Heheheh... LONG POST!!! Beware!! First, congratulations Shroomy! > Matt: (he's still thinking about who Dena is) D... Oh, yah... On the > unofficial website? > > Me: Yah, it's run by a guy named Seth, and... > > Matt: Yah, I've checked it out. > > Me: Have you really? > > Matt: A bunch of times. (But he says a bunch of times when I'm already > talking again.) > mailing list. Chris said to call the police. And Matt reads the list. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't mean to piss on anybody's parade, but... I'm not sure that this is the case. You can see above, he checked out the site, but didn't say he's on the list (my guess is he probably isn't aware that the list and the WWW page are two different things). So, I'm afraid that, no, all of this is not read by the band, unless the posts are reachable through the actuall website. A pity, if I might add... - --- jpop@fly.cc.fer.hr --- Sit back and watch my divine spark flash... -- jovica.popovic@fer.hr -- Disclaimer: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do - Jovica Popovic - it, can't prove anything! ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Nothingman? Maybe we should put him on a milk carton. I'd hate to see Seth (representing us) on the peoples court someday with Nothingman as the defendent. Or even worse, Jon Walsh of "America's Most Wanted" looking for him. Or even the worstest, "Cops: In Maryland" finds him smokin' crack with the money (I can just hear Nothingman saying "Like you should talk Mayor" right now :) ) Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX The only member of the list who doesn't find Chris attractive. Maybe that's why they don't know McCheese . . . ------------------------------ From: firebug@canuck.com Subject: Re: Heheheh... LONG POST!!! Beware!! > Don't mean to piss on anybody's parade, but... I'm not sure that this is > the case. You can see above, he checked out the site, but didn't say he's > on the list (my guess is he probably isn't aware that the list and the WWW > page are two different things). So, I'm afraid that, no, all of this is > not read by the band, unless the posts are reachable through the actuall > website. But the digests are avaliable through the website aren't they? ------------------------------ From: Mark Krubsack Subject: Lallapalloza (spelling?) Dates Have any Northern California dates and venues been mentioned yet? +-------------------------------------+ Looking to the sky and down, | Mark Krubsack | Searching for a ground, |-------------------------------------| With my good eye closed. | e-mail: krubsack@concentric.net | But I'm on my way. | http://www.concentric.net/~krubsack | --Soundgarden. +-------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: lolla info needed!! ok, i need some ticket info for this summer's lolla tour: 1.) are all tickets general admission.? If not, what are the groupings? 2.) How much are tickets ordered throught the on-line service? thats all.. thanks, jerm christ pose ------------------------------ Subject: thumbs. From: "Matthew Lawrence" Err... You need to use your thumb to press against the back of the eck, otherwise you can't play at all.. ;) Seriously, though.. I often use my thumb when I'm playing guitar, but a lot more often when I'm playing bass.. There's a lot you can do with thumbs that you can't do as easily with fingers.. Plus I actually have a double jointed thumb myself, so I actually have something in common with Kim :) Ok, that was a bit of a pointless post, but who cares.. Matt ------------------------------ From: Malvol7@aol.com Subject: DETAILS/CHRIS CORNELL INTERVIEW Here is the Detail's mag interview that a few of you asked me to post...I wanted to mention that the new SPIN article is worth reading, I just don't have time to post that (maybe someone already has...I've missed a lot of the digests.) Also, the NY POST newspaper had a photo of Chris and an article about the new style of "mustaches only" for men that everyone is sporting...he shaved his chin hair... FROM FAST LIVING/DETAILS MAGAZINE ROCKET MAN: SG'S CC Comes Clean About His Lifelong Addiction to Speed. As told to Gavin Edwards. Some things are better when they're done slowly: drinking, having sex, and any job that pays by the hour. But for most things in life, I prefer speed. In SG, we're constantly trying to catch up with our own momentum. We write songs that are incredibly fast...and then discover we can barely keep up. As we get better at playing them, they start getting too fast. That acceleration in our music means that we've always made great albums for driving. Just don't sue us if you wreck your car. I don't need any encouragement to speed up...ever since I was a kid I've been a little tightly wound, which is why I've never taken amphetamine. Even drinking too much coffee can make me start to stutter. And when I'm writing, I often get ahead of myself: I'll try to write the word "fight," for example, and begin with the letter h. It's hard to spell when your mind's in fast forward. Speed is true escapism. When you're going really fast you have no opportunity to think about anything else in your life. Stuff that might bug you gets forced out of your brain. When I want to clear out my mind, I'll usually go driving late at night on roads where I know there are no police...who only cause more traffic problems anyway. I've ridden my motorbike as fast as 140 miles an hour, but let me be clear: I don't have a death wish. I'm careful on the road, and I've never broken a bone in my body. I grew up in a neighborhood of Seattle that has a lot of hills, so naturally I spent most of my childhood going down them at maximum sped. At six, I'd try to break the sound barrier on my little red wagon; by eleven, I'd graduated to a motocross bike. My friends and I use to tear down a nearby hill, jump over a gully, and then land right in front of the big, pronged iron fence outside the local cemetery. One day, my friends were all jumping better and higher than I was, so I decided the solution was more speed. I screamed down the hill, heading for the graveyard. In second, my friends' awe turned into fear. I hit the jump and kept going: As I was flying through the air, heading for the fence, I calmly said to myself, "Fuck." Luckily I landed in some sticker bushes in front of the fence. My full body sticker gashes were a lot easier to deal with than the permanent piercing those iron spikes had in store. When the band first started and we toured across the country in a van, I would always volunteer to drive, because otherwise I'd get bored. My mission was to go as fast as I possibly could without getting a ticket. With my natural antenna for speed traps, I never received a moving violation (still haven't), but I did get into fights with the rest of the band, who'd say things like "It seems like you're driving outside of your ability," or "You drive like a freak." Part of the fun of driving fast is discovering the edge of your ability, when you're almost going to crash. Here's a litmus test: If you smack into a pole, then you were going too fast. A better way to tell when you've exceeded your personal speed limit is by noticing how your focus changes. You stop concentrating on the road because you get nervous. At that point you can do one of two things: Freak out (the wrong option) or remind yourself that everything shifts into slow motion when you're in a crisis and take advantage of it. Not long ago, I was riding my Kawasaki motorcycle on a nice sunny day. I'd taken the face shield off my helmet so I could get some air, and was cruising along at 85 miles an hour when a giant bumblebee flew right into the helmet and started stinging my eye. It felt like somebody was sticking an ice pick into my head, but taking my hands off the handlebars to do something about it would definitely have been the wrong option. Trying to ignore the pain, I gradually slowed down and took the bee out with one hand. Then I got off the freeway so I could pluck the huge stinger out of my eyelid. Two days later, my eye was swollen shut and we had to cancel some live shows, but at least I didn't become road pizza. Aside from driving, parts of life that are better when done double time include making decisions: Even if they're important, you shouldn't labor over the. And anything that feels like work, you should do as quickly as possible. When SG began to take off I was working in a kitchen as a prep cook, with dull assignments like slicing vegetables. As the band got busier, I wanted to be in the kitchen less and less, so I'd go at top speed and cut up a week's worth of potatoes in two days. My bosses dug it because it saved them money, and I was happy to have negotiated a flat rate. And quickly. One of the best places to achieve liberation through speed is on the slopes. A few years ago I was in a snowboard shop with a pal when I ran into my friend Eddie Vedder. He asked if I was going to take up boarding. I said no, I didn't have the time, I was too busy writing songs. A month later I woke up on a Christmas morning and found that Santa had paid a visit: There on my front doorstep were two enormous boxes with Eddie's handwriting on them. He'd gotten me a full set of snowboarding gear...everything except the boots. Still, I didn't strap on the board that entire winter. My friends starting bugging me about it, because I had all this brand new equipment that I wouldn't use and that I wouldn't loan to anybody. The following year, I finally tried it and thought it was pretty cool. I went again a few weeks later with a friend: He broke his leg, but I was hooked. I ended up going twenty times that year, and I still snowboard whenever I can. There's a slope about an hour and a half away from Seattle...or 45 minutes when I'm behind the wheel. (end) ------------------------------ Subject: rockline. From: "Matthew Lawrence" Has anyone transcribed it? The computers here can't make any noises or anything.. I'm sorry if this has already come up, I had to delete a whole load of mail yesterday before reading it..... Matt ------------------------------ From: Jen (Jennifer Hilton) Subject: Soundgarden of course.....duh Dear All (well ok mainly Shroom), I know it's now pretty old news, but congrats Shroom for getting to talk to the band. It takes a while for us poor tiny blighty landers to hear anything interesting. Ok anyway. My name's Jen and none of you know who I am (hahaha - power!). To clarify the situation I'm Dan Ladle's girlie - that's right I have no other station in life but to apease him and worship his almighty body. Back to the message; (1) Dan was v. pleased that you (Shroom) were recognised because it also put the idea into to his head that Ben might have looked at his pictures etc. For a down and out English bloke who doesn't drink tea, that was worth a celebration. And (2) Shroom to check out Chris's bod proceed to Dan's new picture (on Seth's page). I think it's definitely the most sexy photo of him (and Chris don't look bad either). Obsessed me? Only as much as Shroom. Jen ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: I love you guys!! Hello kiddies!! I REALLY want to thank y'all for all the congratulations and stuff that I received!! It's awesome to have SO many groovy people to share SG with!! Heheheh... if it weren't for y'all I would be sitting in front of my stereo playing that interview over and over again, slowly driving myself crazy with unshared joy. Anyway... just think kids, someday a bunch of y'all can be guests on Ricki Lake... the topic being "I was friends with the Shroom Girl who kidnapped SG" Heheheh... insanity is good clean fun!! Seriously though... this list is probably one of the coolest things I've ever come across in my lifetime (it, the actual band, and shrooms of course). And I've got my bestest internet bud to thank for it, Dena (HEY MATT, HER NAME IS DENA, NOT EVA!!)... AKA Geek Girl. She's the one who turned me on to the list and page last November. By the way DMC, I got your mail today!! Heheheh... check out one of my quotes at the end of this post... Anyway... this has been truly a momentous occasion in my obsessed life, and so again... thanks to all my fellow SG freaks for making it even more enjoyable!! I love you guys!! Shroomy ~ Nothingman... you were supposed to wait for ME before you ran off to the Bahamas with the shirt money, damn you!! What happened to our plans?!? Crack-hog. ;) "Of course I'd love to see the backseat of your car, Shroomy!!" ~ Chris Cornell "I also think you're pretty sexy, too (Shroomy)... But NOT AS SEXY AS ME!!!" ~ Chris Cornell (heheheh, Dena!!) (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: mansruin@sirius.com (Man's Ruin Inc.) Subject: Where's Hiro? Having survived the implosion that was Revolution Records,Truly is now signed to Capitol.They have a new albums' worth of stuff recorded,and it is supposed to be released by the fall.Capitol is sending me a cassette...I'll report on it when it shows up. Frank Kozik ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: thumb wrestlin' dan, glenn and all other "thumb warriors"... i'll have to side with glenn in that it doesn't matter how you finger a chord, as long as you're not cutting into your ability to shift quickly between chords AND you're not stifling your sound by muting strings with long reaches over the fretboard. however, dan does have a point about the "g..." i've seen a few people who finger the E string with their thumb on a g chord and they've never been able to make clean switches, expecially to otherwise simple (and essential) transitions like g-c. but to each their own. i have fairly small hands so i have to use my powerful pinky a little more than the average axeman...but i get by. regardless of any of this, i don't think kim's double-jointed thumbs would make a significant difference in his playing, even if he did fret a lot of notes with his thumb. he would have to have big ol' baboon hands to make this an actual asset, so that he could fret bass strings with his amazin' wobbly thumb and still wrap all the way around to cleanly finger the upper register...now THAT would be somethin'... :) i guess you might be able to get a better angle of attack on the fretboard if you were gripping the back of the neck with a double-jointed thumb...i dunno, i'm trying to visualize this but i'm not doing very well... :) oh yeah...i just realized that the meat puppets have several songs where the e-string is thumb-fretted...check out "plateau" on meat puppets II. (or, check out the unplugged version of it when they played with nirvana) that's just a slide up and down the neck fretting the high and low e-strings at the same time...cool sound and a cool tune... any thoughts on finger picking? i don't think that magic thumb action would have a significant effect on that either... oh well...later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Nothingman? From: seth > Maybe we should put him on a milk carton. Nothingman emailed me yesterday from a different email address; apparently his is fucked up and though he can receive mail, he can't send mail to anyone outside his local system. At any rate, he claims that he will be giving the shirt man the image files within the next few days and that production will then take a few more days after that. He also says that he is considering shipping the shirts to US recipients first, so they will arrive in time for Lolla. I assume international shipping will take place no later than 2 days afterwards. I'll let everyone know if I hear anything else. seth ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Heheheh... LONG POST!!! Beware!! From: seth > > Don't mean to piss on anybody's parade, but... I'm not sure that this is > > the case. You can see above, he checked out the site, but didn't say he's > > on the list (my guess is he probably isn't aware that the list and the WWW > > page are two different things). So, I'm afraid that, no, all of this is > > not read by the band, unless the posts are reachable through the actuall > > website. > > > But the digests are avaliable through the website aren't they? Indeed they are. He reads the archive on the website. seth ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: SHROOM, YOU RULE! you rule NOT because you got through... and NOT because of what you asked/said... but because you have the guts to be true to yourself at all times. this is why i like you... not just because I also t hink chris is goodlooking... most *guys* i know think chris is goodlooking (and those of you who were on aol when shroom and i were getting out of control can just keep that chat to yerselves, okay? ;-> )... but because you're real and honest. more power to ya and i'm sorry, but chris farley, i've really fucking had it with you. "sophomoric and annoying"? not that shroom needs someone to defend herself, but who the fuck appointed you judge and jury of what gets posted on this list? i'm sure the band finds your posts oh so enlightening and intellectual, and you're just so much better than shroom and myself. shroom... you BETTER get out here for lolla! - --caryn p.s. jerm, i know it was stupid, but i wanna hear shroom on tape! anyone who has a copy of it, pls email me! shroom, tell me you taped it!!! argh! I KNEW i shouldn't have logged off... *sigh* ------------------------------ From: DKAASC@tevm2.nsc.com Subject: Way to go Shroom!! FROM: Kazam Ali Personal Computer/Network Specialist Computer and Network Support SUBJECT: Way to go Shroom!! WOW! Shroom, you kick some major ass!!! I just downloaded your *.au file and I have to say that you handled yourself very well! Hell, if I had a chance to talk to Chris, I'd probably just mumble and shit my pants! Very impressed, Kazam "The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering." - Brandon Bruce Lee Feb. 1, 1965 - Mar. 31, 1993 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: kiss (argh!) On Sat, 8 Jun 1996, caryn rose wrote: > >A couple of people have said that SG will be touring on the second leg of the > >Kiss tour this summer. I had heard that they weren't going to do it, because > >Ben *hates* Kiss. On this, I have to agree with Ben. Kiss seems to be more > >about superficial stuff (elaborate costumes and makeup, fireworks on > >stage,etc.) than music. People come to concerts to hear music. If your > >music is original and well done, it can stand alone. But if your music is > >ordinary, average, or even bad, you need a lot of trickery to distract > >the audience and keep them from realizing just *how* bad your music really > >is. > > okay, i've been through this already, and i'm sorry if it sounds like a lecture: > > what most of you need to understand is that in the 70's, kiss was THE shit. > every teenage boy wanted to be in kiss. every teenage boy owned every kiss > record. > > kiss *were* cool, and wrote some GREAT rock songs! "Deuce", "Detroit Rock > City", "Rock and Roll All Night" -- i'm sorry, you have to have cotton in > your ears to think that they suck. they were NOT about superficial stuff > --besides which, they were the FIRST rock band to go out on the road with > the full show -- stage set, lighting, pyro, makeup, costumes. NO ONE had > done that before kiss. > > HOWEVER, once we'd moved on a bit and gotten into the 80's, kiss quickly > became an anachronism, and yes, then the music did suck. > > Ben of course hates kiss because he is a true punk rocker at heart. All of > us punk rockers hated kiss. ;-) > > i say all of this because most of you here simply weren't old enough to > remember kiss in "real time". there's no way you can understand what they > were about because you couldn't see them in context. the music scene has > changed a lot over the years. > > i think they don't want to open for kiss for the same reason pearl jam > aren't going to do it -- because the cheapest tickets for this tour are > *$50*, with the best tickets going for $200 -- some seats onstage are going > for $500! it's a total, blatant commercial ripoff and is really not what sg > are about. > > --caryn > > Well, I must agree on your idea on what Kiss usedto be. I'm 27, and when I was a kid KISS was THE band to be into. It's funny how peoplesaw Kiss was allshow and no substance. Does a big production mean that the band has no quality? I don't think too many people would say that the members of Pink Floyd are poor musicians, yet they put on one of the biggest shows around. Now I agree that some bands use a show to cover up their own shortcomings,but in the case of Kiss, it only accentuates the musicianship. BTW, Soundgarden using the film at the begining of the show on the last tour could be seen as "showy" to some and are they poor musicians? BK ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: ROTFLMAO great, i just listened to the .wav of shroom on the list page... yes, *at work*, and i was lauging so hard i was crying... oh my goodness! what a riot.. how totally fuckin' rad... i just LOVE when they all start cracking up once they realize it is you, shroom... oh boy do they know who it is... who is it with that really big snort/laugh? is that chris? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA (just listened to it AGAIN) jeez, they must actually talk about us a lot or something okay, while i'm here -- HEY GUYS! YO! how about having iggy pop open for you when you tour in september???? thanking you. back to work now (really) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: One more congrats... ...to Shroom, you can never get enough! You are so awesome, way to go! I'm sorry I missed out on hearing it. I don't blame you one bit for being so up on the fact that you got on, but THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!! And, CHRIS SPOKE TO YOU. That is truly an honor, plus it brings light to the whole list. How else would they have known who you are? It doesn't surprise me, you are the notorious Shroom! And hear, hear long live the Queen. I wonder if they'll check out the Lolla Friend Finder and alter the tour schedule based on Shroom's choices. Don't worry, they can't keep tabs on you! Just wait until you visit the blessed city of Seattle (and I won't tell them when you're coming either)! Other stuff... Seth wrote: Since Matt's been checking out the list, wouldn't it be great if they would do a chat, or picked a time to be on the list with us? That way, they wouldn't have to deal with silly questions. They could converse with fans who know more about them and their music than the average brain dead on the on-line mediums, etc. (NOT including those of you who participated or tried to.) Plus, they would be in total control of what they said and doing the typing themselves. Sigh, I guess it could be a dream, just like SG playing a concert just for us list members. Never give up hope! If you're reading Matt...what do you think? We are SERIOUS fans. Bonnie ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Love Song Re: kiss (argh!) I understand caryn's remarks perfectly. Kiss were big back then. I liked them back then too. BUT . . . Mr. Kinser (Ben? right?). The video that was played before the soundgarden shows wasn't the main substance of the band. Kiss's music was never the main thing. I could hardly call lyrics such as "I wanna rock and roll all night . . . and party every day" thought provoking. Most other bands (AC/DC not included) work harder than that for their lyrics. What is your the first thing that comes to your mind when you hear the word Soundgarden, Led Zeppelin, Leadbelly, or even the Bee Gee's. It's probably music. Kiss on the other hand ussually has thoughts centered towards Makeup, costumes, and various gimmicks (like the "tongue"). All this culminates into this: Most of Kiss's songs were, to say "shit" nicely, "unbridled love songs" *yeck!*. Are there any soundgarden "love" songs? Loud Love? Big Dumb Sex is more like desire. I won't count covers like "Stray Cat Blues" or "I Can't Give You Anything". So, guys, what is the Soundgarden "unbridled love song"? Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX It has to be "Donuts" . . . ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: sleeping to SG? At 01:56 12/06/96 -0400, stephen napoles wrote: >Hmmmmmm, I've been thinking about this sleeping to SG thing, especially >after Limo Wreck's post. Except for half on his post and applebite (maybe), >I don't think that I could sleep to SG. Sleep to SG? I think if I was to sleep to Applebite I'd have nightmares - that song still sends shivers down my spine and I NEVER play it late at night... >It has even occurred once or twice when I went to sleep with the >radio on that I was WOKEN UP by a SG song because I liked it so much. You too? I'm a weird sleeper - there have been several occassions where I've fallen asleep on my bed and haven't turned off my radio, and I've woken early in the morning (3:00am, 4:00am) to hear my favourite songs...I had an incredible double one morning where my two top songs of 1994, Black Hole Sun and No Excuses (from Alice In Chains) were played in the morning, and I sat bolt upright to listen to both before dropping back to sleep right at the completion of No Excuses...very weird! Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: "R. Maney" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 12 Jun 1996 how do we get to the secret website seth?? ------------------------------ From: "R. Maney" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 12 Jun 1996 jeremy, YES ANOTHER HALF FAN!!! mr full mr have kills mr empty hand best lyric on superunknown lets start the half fanclub.... ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: Lighten' Up Buttercup! - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB5893.8E85F0C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Caryn, There you go again. I expressed an opinion. I did not say shroom's = post were, without question, sophomoric and annoying, just that I find = them sophomoric and annoying. Do you buy every record by every band? = Probably not. and why not? Because some of them don't appeal to you. = I've seen some of your post mentioning how shitty some bands are and = that you don't like them(their music really). Well, Shroom's posts = don't appeal to me. It doesn't mean I don't like shroom. I don't know = shroom. I also did not ever tell anyone, including you or shroom, what = they can or can not post on this list. Also keep in mind that the band = are just four guys that can write some good songs. They might even be = decent folk, but they are mere mortals. Talented mortals, but mortals = never the less. I don't think I'm better than anyone, however I don't = think the same could be said for everyone on this list. Have you ever considered therapy? =20 Lighten' up buttercup! Chris PS - I've included the original post I sent because apparently you = didn't get it the first time.=20 =20 - ---------- From: caryn rose[SMTP:clr@nwlink.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 1996 7:49 AM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: SHROOM, YOU RULE! and i'm sorry, but chris farley, i've really fucking had it with you. =20 "sophomoric and annoying"? not that shroom needs someone to defend=20 herself, but who the fuck appointed you judge and jury of what gets=20 posted on this list? i'm sure the band finds your posts oh so=20 enlightening and intellectual, and you're just so much better than = shroom=20 and myself. =20 shroom... you BETTER get out here for lolla! - --caryn p.s. jerm, i know it was stupid, but i wanna hear shroom on tape! = anyone=20 who has a copy of it, pls email me! shroom, tell me you taped it!!! argh! I KNEW i shouldn't have logged off... *sigh* - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB5893.8E85F0C0 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Farley To: "'clr@nwlink.com'" , 'SOMMS' Subject: Caryn, Give us a break already! Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 22:57:40 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You strike me as someone that thinks they're pretty liberal and = open-minded. Well let me be the first to tell that your opinion is just = that, your opinion NOT law. I don't know how old you are but you seem = to think your the list mother or something, 'I've been in the biz.... = I was listening to Zep when most of you were in = diapers....'(paraphrased) Give it a rest and realize that other people = are allowed to have and express their own opinions, be they right or = wrong. Perhaps your just trying to spur discussion but it comes off to = me that you're trying to tell all of these 'youngsters' how it was in = the old days and how it is today. Just lighten up and let everyone else = have their opinions and feel free to express and not impose yours! Have a nice day! Chris Farley P.S. - I'm 27 in case my age comes into question. - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BB5893.8E85F0C0-- ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: Is it me? Is it me? CF ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: soundgarden drags on? At 14:30 12/06/96 +1000, blind dog wrote: >I was reading an australian reviewer's thoughts on down >on the upside, and even though he had very good things to say about the >record, he noted that it is their second successive record which runs >longer than 60 minutes, and that some of the songs were kind of lengthy. > > basically, I think he was saying that at times soundgarden can >drag a bit. given that their last two albums and most of their songs are >fairly long, is there anyone who thinks the same? Although I wouldn't agree with it, I can see where such an opinion could come from. If you're not devoted to a band's style, as most reviewers wouldn't be, you'd be looking for the fresh changes that each new song brings. Long songs typically have repeated sections, riffs, hooks or ideas which may seem tedious at the first listen, but as the number of listens increases, the appreciation grows. Some long songs can get around that - some might think it a poor example, but I think Scatterbrain's Don't Call Me Dude is a perfect example - see how many changes of style this song goes through? The only reason this song would get tedious is that the novelty value wears off. From the other side comes songs like Slaves and Bulldozers and Applebite. If you don't like the bassline or the general harmony for Slaves and Bulldozers, it isn't over in 3:00 minutes - it takes a full 6:56, and if you're hating it, that's going to seem like a whole lot longer. Same idea with Applebite. The song repeats. Rusty Cage, although not extra long, shows the other way of handling this - it has a complete change in style, rhythm, riffs etc. half way through the song. >to me, the length of >songs like tighter and tighter, slaves and bulldozers and like suicide >don't detract from the song itself; Absolutely agree, but if you're not liking those songs and are too lazy to hit the skip button, that albums going to draaaaaaag along. Basically, a shitty Kickstand length song may be less detrimental to an overall album than a poor Slaves and Bulldozers length song... >and I know that I never stand around waiting for their records to end. Same, but we both like the band - a reviewer might not... >do soundgarden fans have an improved >collective span of attention? tell me what you all think. I think we (the fans) like the music! People not so well versed in Soundgarden songs may think that these lengthy songs are excessive, where as I'd contest that notion. What I think is important is that it's not a whole album of long songs. I can handle plenty of long songs if the music isn't my focus of attention, but if I'm doing work for university, there must be some short, sharp bursts of ideas. Jackhammer ...notice how the long songs are the slow ones? The faster they go, the less time they take? ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: Lighten' Up Buttercup! On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Chris Farley wrote: > Have you ever considered therapy? =20 > > Lighten' up buttercup! this is without a doubt the most obnoxious, condescending, self-righteous message i have ever received. fuck off. ------------------------------ From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) Subject: Tori Experience and Soundgarden Hey All- First off, congrats to Shroom! I'm not calling her 'tha bomb', I choose to call her 'woman with slack'. In ONE year you got SOMMS on sale for a discount rate, at a garage sale!! Plus that other thing...you know what I mean :) Ok, I'm at Ames, IA. After several brews, I am sitting, in awe listening to Tori Amos wail on her piano. She did a cover of 'Losing My Religion', and for some reason, things started to get weird... I started to see the purple lights and white lights beat off her piano and see her lovely mame over her face and have her start the beginning of 'Like Suicide'. It didn't happen, DAMN! But ohhhhhh...if any female could sing that song, it would be her. I'm tired and strung out so I won't string this along. Laters Peace Sean ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Re: soundgarden drags on? I think Soundgarden sorta drags "Incessant Mace" out a bit too long. Although Ultramega OK is my fave SG album, I don't like the way it ends. I can't really think of any other SG albums that end bad or lengthy. In fact, DOTU is just the opposite; Boot Camp is too short. FUCK CLINTON AND DOLE! SHROOM FOR PRESIDENT IN '96!! :-) Vasant ****************************************************************************** THE REFUGE OF THE DAMNED-Check out lots o' music stuff here!! http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "But I don't feel like feeling, feeling like you"-Face Pollution-Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: half fanclub On Jun 12, 3:55pm, R. Maney wrote: > Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 12 Jun 1996 > > > jeremy, YES ANOTHER HALF FAN!!! > > mr full mr have kills mr empty hand > > best lyric on superunknown > > lets start the half fanclub.... > well, why not a fanclub for Ben. Shroom and caryn and all the others can have their Chris club, why can't we have a Ben club.. for musical reasons of course! i mean, look at what he has done (that i can remember right off): most music for HATER the song, "half" AND "Head Down".. my 3rd fav off of superunkown. AND lots of music for Down on the Upside.... jerm - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: littlejoe? where are you? here are some fairly brief reviews of dotu, which I copy wholesale from two brisbane music publications: rave and time off. I know some of the digest members are probably already tearing their hair out, but these are really so short that it isn't worth putting them up on sgi.net. but just before I jump into them, I read that johhny cash is currently recording a new record, similar to the _american recordings_ one which had quite a few other notable musicians writing songs for him. I have the feeling this may have been mentioned before, but one of the tracks already finished is his cover of the one and only rusty cage :) hopefully, the songs ben and matt wrote for the first record will make it onto this one . anyhow, back to the reviews... _time off_ if you can get past their re-inflation of the led zep corpse, chris cornell's endless braying, their terminal bombast, their interminable long-windedness (damn it if this isn't their thrid album in succession closing on 70 minutes)...yes, these are the problems with soundgarden. but not to fans - and soundgarden have many. well, the fans are smart people, for there is a wonderful world of music awaiting them here. soundgarden do it all on down on the upside, and deserve great credit for staying hungry after inching their way to megastardom: between heartstopping syncopation of 'jesus christ pose', the sonic overkill of 'loud love' and the beatlesque balladry of 'black hole sun', it's already been established that there's virtually nothing this band can't do within the boundaries of their very, very heavy metal. not that that makes down on the upside sound stale. soundgarden just sound better than ever: sure, there are epic sounds taken in big epic strides, as usual, but the songwriting and execution has been refined still further. 'ty cobb' (about a renowned but hated american baseball player) is their most blistering 'fast' song since rusty cage, with its irresistible chorus of "hard headed, fuck you all" it's a shame those lyrics will keep it from single status. title-track of sorts 'dusty', 'never the machine forever' and the elegiac, closing 'boot camp' are awesomely dynamic and compelling. love them or hate them, soundgarden are by far the best in the world in their chosen field, and down on the upside is very convincing proof. _rave_ this new effort from one of seattle's veteran outfits heads off in so many tangents, and the non-stop relentless raging we expect is now pegged back by so many other moods, it's hard to see what they're aiming at. a self-produced set, this avoids the more complex studio tinkering of earlier albums for a less doctored sound. sure, there's still plenty of nailed-down, paint-peeling, intense rifferamas like 'no attention'. but then it also shows them playign with the formula. one word which leaps out here is classic, with them building a mood that brings them closer to the all-american guitar band sound. 'burden in my hand's more acoustic, southern rock could be anybody from lynrd skynrd to the black crowes. it's not the only cut with strange echoes of the past (I swear rhinosaur is chicago's '25 or 6 to 4' collidign with black sabbath). another shift occurs in the vocals, put through all kinds of fliters. for example, the odd-paced, sluggish 'applebite' fixes chris cornell's voice in a disembodied megaphone effect, adding to the song's lurking lurch. through sticking with their trademark strident pose, soundgarden have also sought out a broader noise, making an album of contrasts and contradicitions. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: as the seasons roll on by... On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Limo Wreck wrote: > well, why not a fanclub for Ben. Shroom and caryn and all the others can have > i mean, look at what he has done (that i can remember right off): > most music for HATER > the song, "half" > AND "Head Down".. my 3rd fav off of superunkown. > AND lots of music for Down on the Upside.... don't forget that hidden gem on badmotorfinger: somewhere. one of my current favourites, and a damn fine song all round. talk about filling hiro's boots :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Shroom Sommsters, Where is nothingman? He went a whole digest without a post, what the hell is going on!? Hmm.. brief dotu comment, I am sure that everyone one the list knows I would rather hear totd w/o Mike McCreedy but now that I have dotu I pretty much know what it would have sounded like if sg played all those songs. Dotu and totd are pretty much in the same vein. It's just very interesting, In a year I wonder how many people will rate dotu as there favorite album as compared to now. I hated totd when I first got it, it was 2 whole years before I really loved it. Anyway congrats to shroom and I will talk to you all later. Clown ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Love Song From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > So, guys, > what is the Soundgarden "unbridled love song"? > > Mayor McCheese Girl U Want Somewhere Fluttergirl Unbridled?? Well maybe not, but that's as close as you're going to get with SG.. Jamie We are able to walk on air, but only as long as our illusion supports us. -- E. L. Doctorow "The Book of Daniel" ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: it's just an anchor on my heart... On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Mayor McCheese wrote: > covers like "Stray Cat Blues" or "I Can't Give You Anything". So, guys, > what is the Soundgarden "unbridled love song"? does blow up the outside world fit the bill? "I've given everything I need, I'd give you everything I own, I'd give in if it could at least be ours alone" or perhaps that famed demo of nowhere but you is a good example: "when you were here, I thought I would never miss you" "when you were gone, I felt that I had never lived here" "nowhere but you, there is no better place that I've been to" ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: new thread what are the best B-sides, or songs off EP's or soudtracks/compilations that you think Soundgarden has done?.... my opinion is that those are some of the best songs they have done. I vote for: - - "into the void" - - "stray cat blues" - - "girl u want" - - "cold bitch" - - "fresh deadly roses" - - "she's a politician" ** prolly my fav on this list - - "she likes surprises" - - "birth ritual" - - "show me" - - "kyle petty, son of richard" i guess 10 is enough. This can be an interesting thread, so lets see what you people think.. :) /me wonders how many times "like suicide" acoustic will show up? jerm, for all you ever wanted - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: it's just an anchor on my heart... On Jun 13, 12:18pm, blind dog wrote: > Subject: it's just an anchor on my heart... > On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Mayor McCheese wrote: > > > covers like "Stray Cat Blues" or "I Can't Give You Anything". So, guys, > > what is the Soundgarden "unbridled love song"? > > does blow up the outside world fit the bill? > "I've given everything I need, I'd give you everything I own, I'd > give in if it could at least be ours alone" > funny, i was thinking the same thing. Everytime i hear the chorus,it reminds me of a love song. > or perhaps that famed demo of nowhere but you is a good example: > "when you were here, I thought I would never miss you" > "when you were gone, I felt that I had never lived here" > "nowhere but you, there is no better place that I've been to" ahhhh, great demo, BUT, what about "missing", or "flutter girl"? - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: Chris Farley Subject: RE: Lighten' Up Buttercup! Then it worked! Reality is a hard pill to swallow. Isn't it? - ---------- From: caryn rose[SMTP:clr@nwlink.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 1996 12:41 PM To: Chris Farley Cc: 'SOMMS' Subject: Re: Lighten' Up Buttercup! On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Chris Farley wrote: > Have you ever considered therapy? =20 > > Lighten' up buttercup! this is without a doubt the most obnoxious, condescending, self-righteous message i have ever received. fuck off. ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: DOtU UK clear vinyl Vinyl fiends, I'll be ordering a load of the clear wax UK doubles from Phantom Imports & I'd be more than happy to pick up anymore for any fellow listers. I'll be posting the exact price soon (hopefully by next Monday) & I'll need confirmation plus the money before I ship the lps to you. Hehe... I sound like a record label owner... except I'll be selling my stuff at the price I get them for (c: But as of right now I have NO idea what the price well be. (Damn my assistant... ) (c: Ya know something? I'm too young to have an assistant. I think I'll have her fired! (c; have a Soundgarden day, ray btw: I promise I won't pull a Nothingman & skip the country. (it's cool that he can't respond back over email & yell at me) For one thing I'm not into going to a tropical vacation spot nor am I into crack (c: (Nothingman. I'm kidding! It's all fun! -nudge nudge chuckle chuckle-) ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Aging musicians Listers, I just saw Ozzy in concert last night, and I began to think. But first of all I should mention that they did not play Into the Void :( and that Ozzy personally said that there would be no Black Sabbath reunion :( :( Anyway, Ozzy is 47 years of age, and during Suicide Solution, during the incredibly self-absorbed guitar solo, he left the stage. This is not too surprising. The funny thing was, that this member of the crew helped him down the stairs. It was a funny scene. Here's this guy who has led this incredible, wild life, and he's being taken by the elbow to walk down stairs. It made me wonder what will happen when Soundgarden reaches this age? Could anybody visualize this? (Little Shroom taking poor old Chris by the arm to help him off the stage (to perform obscene acts backstage)) Any thoughts?? Geoff ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: DETAILS/CHRIS CORNELL INTERVIEW Thank you very much for that transcription. That made my day. :) I, too, love speed. Now, I'm not sure if I've done things as crazy as Chris has done, for example, the motorbike incident, but I completely identified with what he said about testing limits. And my reputation as a driver practically precedes me. If you were to tell me that I am a crazy driver, or driving too fast, or that you were scared you were about to die, you would NOT be the first. :) I must say that Soundgarden's music does not help my driving either. Especially songs like Ty Cobb, Rusty Cage, Superunknown, My Wave, JCP, Kyle Petty, and countless others. Even the lyric "let your motor race" in PN, is enough to elicit a full throttle response. Any other SG/Speed freaks out there? Geoff "...comin' up on your right, comin' up on your right, comin' up on your right, don't you fuck with me tonight..." -SG ------------------------------ From: stephen napoles Subject: SG stuff OK, Limo Wreck, you always seem to post stuff I want to respond to, two days in a row now. Just about a week ago, I made a mix of SG for my walkman off of all their albums and I wanted to include on it my fav b sides/covers as well. The ones I included were, Girl u want (which I often played on my college radio show), Cold Bitch (Can't tell you how many people had me dedicate that to someone), Show Me, and Communication Breakdown (I love Chris' mic break to the crowd...."Throw away you SG records, because Kingdom Come is here). I still cannot understand why Cold Bitch wasn't on an album. Most bands could only write a song that intense once in their musical lives. SG does it, and it's a b-side! I also wrote a post in response to the Mayor's question about an "unbridled SG love song," but I think that I only sent it to him by mistake (damn this country air). Anyway, I couldn't think of any SG songs that fit directly into the genre but I feel that TOTD's 'Call Me A Dog,' and 'Somewhere' come close. Both of these songs nicely avoid the Sentimentality of your common rock love song by dealing with a lot of detail instead of just standard emotional jargon (Firehouse or Poison anyone?). Still as I mentioned in my earlier post, I'm a little dissapointed because I would almost like to see SG taking on "Oooh Baby I Love Your Way." Stephen ------------------------------ From: Little Joe Subject: What film? I keep hearing people talk about a film at the beginning of the last tour. When I saw them, it was just a straight out concert... No films or anything of that nature. And even with its simplicity, that concert has to have been one of the best concerts I've ever been to because SG is a great live band. I do agree that showmanship cannot hurt a band, only enhance a performance, but effects and such will never make a bad band good. Ergo, Kiss was good "at its time!" i wasn't alive during the big Kiss "revolution" and I feel that we should have moved on by noe and so should Kiss (i.e. retire!). thanks. I apoligize if I upset anyone. Marc killing hurts has to be done peace and love and who's number one the right to give learn to bleed it's free pain is outside lift it up to see ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: Lighten' Up Buttercup! On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, caryn rose wrote: > > > On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Chris Farley wrote: > > > Have you ever considered therapy? =20 > > > > Lighten' up buttercup! > > this is without a doubt the most obnoxious, condescending, self-righteous > message i have ever received. fuck off. > > okay, i have been on the receiving end of this type of message before, so it feels a lot like vindication to give one, but either shut the fuck up about this stupid little fight, or at least keep it off the list. private e-mail, ever heard the words? ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: Tori Experience and Soundgarden On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, Sean McCarthy wrote: > > > Hey All- > First off, congrats to Shroom! I'm not calling her 'tha bomb', > I choose to call her 'woman with slack'. In ONE year you got > SOMMS on sale for a discount rate, at a garage sale!! Plus that > other thing...you know what I mean :) > > Ok, I'm at Ames, IA. After several brews, I am sitting, in awe listening > to Tori Amos wail on her piano. She did a cover of 'Losing My > Religion', and for some reason, things started to get weird... > > I started to see the purple lights and white lights beat off > her piano and see her lovely mame over her face and have her > start the beginning of 'Like Suicide'. It didn't happen, DAMN! > But ohhhhhh...if any female could sing that song, it would be > her. > > I'm tired and strung out so I won't string this along. > > Laters > Peace > Sean > > i saw tori amos at the fox theatre about two or three weeks ago, and i could not agree more, if there is any woman to do a soundgarden song, with or without soundgarden (duet or whatever), she would be the one. it was one of the most amazing shows i have ever seen, and will not liely forget the experience. and this show was at 11:00 at nigt, after she already did one show. no opening act. she would definitely rock with the boys ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: soundgarden drags on? On Wed, 12 Jun 1996, blind dog wrote: If anything some songs could go on for longer JCP, Superunkown, etc. If a song isn't that good and it's very long then it drags on, or if it's very simple, hence most punk songs < 3.00 minutes. > > just a quick post before I rush headlong into my second-to-last > uni assignment. I was reading an australian reviewer's thoughts on down > on the upside, and even though he had very good things to say about the > record, he noted that it is their second successive record which runs > longer than 60 minutes, and that some of the songs were kind of lengthy. > > basically, I think he was saying that at times soundgarden can > drag a bit. given that their last two albums and most of their songs are > fairly long, is there anyone who thinks the same? to me, the length of > songs like tighter and tighter, slaves and bulldozers and like suicide > don't detract from the song itself; and I know that I never stand around > waiting for their records to end. do soundgarden fans have an improved > collective span of attention? tell me what you all think. > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- > > "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ From: ASDrum@aol.com Subject: Lolla/Rockline/Feeling Minnesota 1) YES!!!! It was just announced on the radio today that Lollapalooza is coming to a town near me. The only other date near me was Jacksonville, which is a six hour drive, and even that was only a tentative date. Believe me, I don't mind the six hour drive, but I had a wedding I couldn't get out of that day. Plus this new date in West Palm Beach (FL) is a firm date, with tickets on sale Monday. It's July 18th, in case anyone is interested. 2) In reply to SGardnGrl, who asked "I have a question that is sort of bugging me...ASDrum or Mindwreck, did you mention to me last night in the RL Auditorium that Susan is in the recent issue of Spin....pic of her & Chris sitting around with Susan's uncle on his farm. Don't laugh....but were you pulling my leg or what?" Well, I couldn't help but laugh hysterically, because all I could picture was Chris & Susan sitting on a bale of hay, with chickens and goats running around, and Uncle Vern standing there in overalls chewing on a piece of straw!!!! I'm sorry.........one moment while I wipe the tears from my eyes. Please don't get mad, it's just so funny! Anyway, No - what we were commenting on was a paragraph in the article: "A few nights later I join Cornell and Silver at the modest, shamrock-covered West Seattle home of Silver's mother. A few manifestations of Proud Parent Syndrome are visible - a stack of magazines with Soundgarden cover stories sits on a coffee table next to a Xerox of an article about Silver from a metal magazine, and a framed platinum album for Superunknown hangs prominently on the living room wall-but otherwise there's no noticeable trace of the celebrity son-in-law. Cornell flops down on a couch and plays with the Pomeranians while the elder Silver makes us all a midnight snack of spaghetti, with Susan's Uncle Vern spinning yarns to keep us entertained." No picture, though. But I would have LOVED to see that picture! The only picture I have of Susan is the one in Rolling Stone from 3/94. It's not the best picture, either. Does she EVER go out in public with Chris? I thought for sure when they were at the Grammy's last year, that she would be sitting right there by his side, but she wasn't. (BTW, did anyone notice when they accepted the Grammy for Spoonman, Chris thanked his mother-in-law, Jean Silver, and the audience laughed?). So anyway, Seth, a Susan page would be MOST appreciated. 3) "Feeling Minnesota" is a movie written and directed by Steven Baigelman and starring Keanu Reeves, Cameron Diaz, and Courtney Love in a small role. Kind of a downer...lots of sex. Here's a quote from the March issue of Movieline: "Courtney Love is a smart casting move, because whether Feeling Minnesota turns out a masterpiece or tommyrot, it has instant cachet of a sort. It is recongnizable to the Seattle-fixated sector of the moviegoing public as a must-see. The possible too-coolness of the whole project can even be read in the title, which, in case you were wondering, comes from a Soundgarden song ("I just looked in the mirror/Things aren't looking so good/I'm looking California and feeling Minnesota"). "I had the title before the story", Baigelman says. "A distribution head at New Line suggested we change it to Speed 2 - I thought it was a good joke. You'll remember, though, that Movieline voted us worst title of 1995, before we even went into production. So there you go." So there you go! Too cool. Anyway....for those I (along with Ray & Jeremy) was able to help on the Rockline thaaang...it was my pleasure. I had a great time. And to Shroom - GOOD GOIN' GIRL!!!! Somehow, I knew you would make it on there. Are you able to sleep yet? I'm sorry this is so long. C-YA .......ANG ~Definition of Soundgarden: A tear from an eye, dreaming...... ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 154] ****************************************