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Today's Topics:
 

                              Some Good Finds?
                                 Re: hey...
                            Re: Endless Summer II
                                lollapalooza
                       alt.music.soundgarden on new RS
                     RE: footsteps vs. times of trouble
                 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 9 Jun 1996
                 was i pissed after the aol chat last night?
                            Super"unknown" models
                                RE: Kiss tour
                              Re: interview...
                            Re: Weird Thumbs????
                            Re: Endless Summer II
                       (Fwd) Re: Super"unknown" models
                                  **ROW 3**
                        Times o' Trouble vs Footsteps
                     RE: footsteps vs. times of trouble
                                 Shirts?????
                      "We brused it ourselves." --Chris
                         WANTED: SUSAN SILVER!!!!!!
                       Twilight experiences with DOTU
                 was i pissed after the aol chat last night?
                            Super"unknown" models
                           Rockline/AOL interview
                                      
                      I've got no songs in my heart...
              string quartet no.12 in d flat major; opus 133...
                            Go Shroom!Go Shroom!

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From: DKAASC@tevm2.nsc.com
Subject: Some Good Finds?

FROM: Kazam Ali
      Personal Computer/Network Specialist
      Computer and Network Support
SUBJECT: Some Good Finds?

Hey Sommites,

I was perusing my local record shop this weekend and came upon some stuff that
I'm not sure are worth buying.
1. Flower single (CD)$8
2. Fell on Black Days single (Picture Vinyl)$10
3. The Day I Tried to Live (Picture Vinyl)$10
4. Ultramega OK (Vinyl LP)$11

I just wanna know if these are worth buying strictly as collector's items.
Are they rare?Any input would be appreciated!
Kazam

"The key to immortality is first living a life worth
 remembering." - Brandon Bruce Lee
                           Feb. 1, 1965 - Mar. 31, 1993
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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From: ADDC <varkey@utdallas.edu>
Subject: Re: hey...

On Mon, 10 Jun 1996 overfloater@bbs.cowland.com wrote:

> I saw a commercial for Down On The Upside on MTV last night.  I don't
> know exactly what to make of that.

That commercial was on every five minutes last night during 120 minutes. 
On one hand, it was great to see more exposure of SG but on the other hand, 
it made me sick of Pretty Noose awfully quick.

It can only help the band ultimately.

Vincent

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From: Chris Kreidl <kreidl@newrock.com>
Subject: Re: Endless Summer II

At 08:51 AM 6/10/96 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>    I'm not sure what made me remember this, but a few years back I saw a
>preview on a video tape for the movie Endless Summer II.  During the preview
>they played My Wave, which peaked my curiousity to rent the movie.  However, 
>when I rented the movie there was no Soundgarden played at all.  Just 
>wondering if anyone had a similar experience.
>
>
>   Darren
>
>

Something like that happened to me, it was The Babysitters Club, on the
previews they play Better Then Ezra (BTW who or what is Ezra??) And there
was nothing from them in the movie, gets ya thinkin....
                        <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
                        <><><><><><Chris Kreidl><><><><><>
                        <>members.tripod.com/~GoatSniff<><
                        <><><><>kreidl@newrock.com<><><><>
                        <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>


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Subject: lollapalooza
From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend)

Just bought tickets yesterday to the Barrie, Ontario concert. 
Just wondering if anyone else is going to be going (have to 
know if I should be watching for our list tshirts).  Email me 
direct if you don't wish to clutter the list. 
 
nephend

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From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Rick Agrait)
Subject: alt.music.soundgarden on new RS

while going throught the new issue of rolling stone (metallica cover) i
found this little snippet in a mini-article on newsgroups:

That single-mindedness is a far cry from the scattershot posts on
alt.music.soundgarden, where Soundgarden often seem to be the last thing on
anyone's mind. Recent posts here were more involved with bickering over the
relative merits of Eddie Vedder and Smashing Pumpkins or choosing a favorite
metal album than with discussing the music of Chris Cornell, Kim Thayil and Co.


This is totally true. Before finding the list i spent a couple of days
rummaging through all the bullshit posts on a.m.s and posting pleads to ppl
to actually talk about soundgarden and discuss the music, but to no results.
Thank god i found the list, because that has got to be one of the worst
newsgroups i have ever visited.

- -hasswipee 
who is kinda annoyed that the band didnt take his 'whats in the beggining of
boot camp' question seriously..oh well i guess well never know. whats in the
beggining of boot camp? how many licks does it take to get to the center of
a tootsie pop?


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From: Chris Farley <hannibal@tiac.net>
Subject: RE: footsteps vs. times of trouble

That's funny, TOTD was the album that got me into Pearl Jam!
Chris

- ----------
From: 	Thomas D. Ozbirn[SMTP:tdo@datasync.com]
Sent: 	Monday, June 10, 1996 12:24 PM
To: 	'erin@planet.eon.net'
Cc: 	'somms@mit.edu'
Subject: 	RE: footsteps vs. times of trouble

<*> i think stone gossard wrote the music and they just recycled it...=20
as far as feeling or whatever, I'd have to go w/ PJ on this one, this is =
one of my favorite pearl jam songs (thank god they haven't released it) =
right up there but a little below state of love and trust. I like temple =
of the dog and have had that tape for a long time, but Times.. just =
doesn't do as much for me as say wooden jesus or reach down (which imho =
has one of mcready's best solos if not the) that was the record that got =
me into soundgarden, i just wish there was some more records that are on =
par with Temple



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From: Heather Aston <aston@eden.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 9 Jun 1996

From: caryn rose <clr@nwlink.com>
Subject: kiss (argh!)

>A couple of people have said that SG will be touring on the second leg of
the
>Kiss tour this summer. I had heard that they weren't going to do it, because
>Ben *hates* Kiss. On this, I have to agree with Ben. Kiss seems to be more
>about superficial stuff (elaborate costumes and makeup, fireworks on
>stage,etc.) than music. People come to concerts to hear music. If your
>music is original and well done, it can stand alone. But if your music is
>ordinary, average, or even bad, you need a lot of trickery to distract
>the audience and keep them from realizing just *how* bad your music really
>is.

okay, i've been through this already, and i'm sorry if it sounds like a
lecture:

what most of you need to understand is that in the 70's, kiss was THE shit.
every teenage boy wanted to be in kiss.  every teenage boy owned every kiss
record.

kiss *were* cool, and wrote some GREAT rock songs!  "Deuce", "Detroit Rock
City", "Rock and Roll All Night" -- i'm sorry, you have to have cotton in
your ears to think that they suck.


Of course. Your opinion is the right one. If someone else disagrees,
well, they must have cotton in their ears. Please.

  they were NOT about superficial stuff

Really? Outlandish costumes and makeup, those things aren't superficial?


- - --besides which, they were the FIRST rock band to go out on the road with
the full show -- stage set, lighting, pyro, makeup, costumes. 

And...? Being the first to do something doesn't neccessarily mean it's
worth doing.



 NO ONE had
done that before kiss.

Does their being the first to do it make it any less silly? I don't
know about you, but I go to concerts for the music. When I see this
huge, elaborate show, it seems dishonest somehow, as though they are
hiding something. If the music is good enough, why all the artifice?
 Isn't that one of the things everyone despised about those 80's
hair bands? (in addition to the shitty music)  All that uneccesary,
rock star, poser stuff-the kind of thing sg are not about. 






i think they don't want to open for kiss for the same reason pearl jam
aren't going to do it -- because the cheapest tickets for this tour are
*$50*, with the best tickets going for $200 -- some seats onstage are going
for $500!  it's a total, blatant commercial ripoff and is really not what sg
are about.

- - --caryn



That I agree with. I'd be sorely disappointed if sg did tour with them.


- ------------------------------

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Subject: was i pissed after the aol chat last night?
From: seth <saperl@MIT.EDU>

<laughing>

a lot of people seem to think i was pissed off after the aol chat and
that's why i didn't stick around...i wasn't pissed at all! i left in a
hurry to get my stereo together so i could listen to the radio
interview, which i wound up missing anyway. i'll try to stick around
after tonight's event.

did anyone catch the radio interview? tell us all about it.

seth

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From: danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen)
Subject: Super"unknown" models

Okay, this may seem trivial (and it is!) but did those of you who got 
the recent issue of Spin take a good look at page 48? There is a 
picture of the band with a side note. Usually the sidenote says 
something like "From left: Matt Cameron, Ben Shephard, etc." but this 
one is strange in that it says "From left: T-shirt, Banana Republic. 
Jacket, Fab 208; Pants, Levi's Pants, UFO. T-shirt, Calvin Klein; 
Pants, UFO. Do are boys now have a side project that we wouldn't 
suspect or did Spin f*** up?  

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From: onefellswoop <gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: RE: Kiss tour

On Sat, 8 Jun 1996, Thomas D. Ozbirn wrote:
> <*> they like kiss, why wouldn't they???
> 

Ben hates Kiss, why would they??
Geoff

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From: UnknMan@aol.com
Subject: Re: interview...

> *******Unknman---you may have gotten 3 questions in but hey I won the CD!!!
>also! Ray what other questions were yours? let me know!!

Credit me with:

Question:	Kim:  What triggered the work on Twisted Willie?
AND
Question :	Y'all have released tons of b-sides most only available in the UK,
Oz & so forth.. any talk on a b-side collection released domestically?

...along with the stupid one about Matt's arms.  I wish they would have
gotten to the questions about possible new live albums/videos & corporate
video compliations of their vids.  I won't be their tonight so if someone
could ask questions about these topics EARLY (well before they tell you to
send questions) I'd be greatly honored/happy/etc.  Thank you everyone.


ray

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From: UnknMan@aol.com
Subject: Re: Weird Thumbs????

><*> i use my thumbs all the time, especially with songs like little wing,
and
>stevie ray vaughn's taxman.... 
>
>
Just for clarification "Taxman" is a Beatles song... Stevie Ray does a fine
cover though (better than the Beatles I'd say)



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From: UnknMan@aol.com
Subject: Re: Endless Summer II

>(BTW who or what is Ezra??)

A Biblical character.  He was a scribe/priest that told the Israelites that
were removed from their homeland & exiled to Syria that they were the
covanent people & begged that they return to the covanent ways & to Israel.
 He was also one of the first Jews to return to Israel after the exile was
ended.

A book in the Bible.  In original manuscripts it was grouped with Nehemiah &
apatly named Ezra-Nehemiah.

... at least that's what I learned in Religion class.

Sorry for all the mail.  I'll go to class now.


ray


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Subject: (Fwd) Re: Super"unknown" models
From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin)
 
On Jun 10, 1996 15:41:24, 'danabt@ix.netcom.com (Dana Born-Thomsen)' wrote:

 
 
>Okay, this may seem trivial (and it is!) but did those of you who got  
>the recent issue of Spin take a good look at page 48? There is a  
>picture of the band with a side note. Usually the sidenote says  
>something like "From left: Matt Cameron, Ben Shephard, etc." but this  
>one is strange in that it says "From left: T-shirt, Banana Republic.  
>Jacket, Fab 208; Pants, Levi's Pants, UFO. T-shirt, Calvin Klein;  
>Pants, UFO. Do are boys now have a side project that we wouldn't  
>suspect or did Spin f*** up?   
 
 
   I just got the Spin today so it was laying on the table by the computer.
  
I opened it up and there on pg. 48 is the Soundgarden House of Style
picture.  That is too weird!!  Gee! did the boys need some new dark
clothing???  Kevin Klein???  Oh whoa is me! I don't know if seeing
them in those clothes makes me want to rush out and buy them!! Look
out Cindy and Naomi here come the Kimmy and Chrissy!!  Toni

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From: ~Flutter Girl~ <76345.3722@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: **ROW 3**

Sommosaurs,

For those of us with AOL accounts who are planning to join the
festivities tonight, let's try to meet on row 3 again, so we don't all
get seperated. Kay?  Shroom, how early are you getting there?

~Flutter Girl~


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From: Adrian Alcock <codpiece@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au>
Subject: Times o' Trouble vs Footsteps


	There is no question that the two have totally different 
meanings.  Since some asswipe refuses to give me back my Temple cd, I 
cant say who wrote the music.  Was it McCready or Cornell?  Oh well.  
Ithought for a while that it (Footsteps) could have referred to drugs "I 
got scratches all over my arms/ One for each day since I fell apart" but 
this could be like some suicide reference.  My question (not sg related 
(sorry Seth)) is that the person referred to in these lyrics: is it a 
girlfriend or is it his mother/ stepfather.   

Anyways, it was a pleasure clogging your mailers with PJ stuff... ;)

	- Blank stare at the whisper, but who are you judging
	- Thought you were different, you're asleep at the wheel


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From: Sugarcoma <jjevans@direct.ca>
Subject: RE: footsteps vs. times of trouble


><*> i think stone gossard wrote the music and they just recycled it... 
>as far as feeling or whatever, I'd have to go w/ PJ on this one, this is
one of my favorite pearl jam songs (thank god they haven't released it)

it's on the Jeremy single


>right up there but a little below state of love and trust. I like temple of
>the dog and have had that tape for a long time, but Times.. just doesn't do
as >much for me as say wooden jesus or reach down (which imho has one of
mcready's >best solos if not the) that was the record that got me into
soundgarden, i just >wish there was some more records that are on par with
Temple

yes, Reach Down and Say Hello 2 heaven and Wooden Jesus azre amazing
whenever i hear Reach Down i think of Capricorn sister by MLB for some reason...

That's it, BYE BYE.... 

Justine

Beautiful losers
Stuck here beside me
so very clever 
and so very frightening.

- -Mollys Reach-


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From: "Tim Smith" <tsmith@oak.lakefieldcs.lakefield.on.ca>
Subject: Shirts?????

I am wondering where the hell my shirt is. Does anybody have 
theirs???

Tim Smith


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From: ~Flutter Girl~ <76345.3722@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: "We brused it ourselves." --Chris

I've got MRL on tape, I haven't finished listening to it, but so far,
they've been witty and humorous as usual. If anyone wants a copy, let
me know.

~Flutter Girl~


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From: Gardena@aol.com
Subject: WANTED: SUSAN SILVER!!!!!!

Hello fellow sommsters!!
I am sending out the call....... help! help!

I have approached Seth with the idea that we include pictures of Susan Silver
on the page!!!.... because we all know she is a HUGE part of SOUNDGARDEN
too!! he said" great idea"<~~ (well maybe not those exact words but close
enough!!) He even exxpressed his ideas about making a page just about her!!!

 well I think it would be a RAD! ( hehehehe shroom) idea to do.... but here
is my dilemma( the point of the post) I dont have ANY pictures of her to send
to Seth!...... 
I know what your thinking... how can she have such a great idea and not be
able to have any imput for it... ( well I guess my imput is the
idea!!).......

OOPS!! off track!! anyways!  but here is where you all come in.... the
sommsters!! (because this is a group effort kinda thing...except Seth has to
do the work....thank you SETH!)
If you have any pictures or articals regarding Susan please send them to Seth
so he can get busy and get some stuff up on her!!


thanks for reading!! and thanks ahead of time for helping out!!! 

whiteout
Dena :)~ 

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From: rockhds@giga.com (Anja Gonzalez G.)
Subject: Twilight experiences with DOTU

Hey there!

I'm glad to know I'm not the only person in this world to have these
experiences with the new Soundgarden album.

I just can't wait to get my DOTU copy ( you are all so lucky!) to put my
headphones on and travel into outer space with the music.

Guess that's it for now, bye!

Anja

Hey Shroom, what are your experiences? ;)

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From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com
Subject: was i pissed after the aol chat last night?

SA><laughing>

SA>a lot of people seem to think i was pissed off after the aol chat and
SA>that's why i didn't stick around...i wasn't pissed at all! i left in a
SA>hurry to get my stereo together so i could listen to the radio
SA>interview, which i wound up missing anyway. i'll try to stick around
SA>after tonight's event.

SA>did anyone catch the radio interview? tell us all about it.

SA>set
ARG!  Can someone PLEASE tell me when SG is on AOL tonight?  And also
when the interview is on?

- -Trying to decide between overfloater@thenexus.com or
stolen.prayers@thenexus.com (you help me decide!),
champagne



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From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com
Subject: Super"unknown" models

DA>Okay, this may seem trivial (and it is!) but did those of you who got
DA>the recent issue of Spin take a good look at page 48? There is a
DA>picture of the band with a side note. Usually the sidenote says
DA>something like "From left: Matt Cameron, Ben Shephard, etc." but this
DA>one is strange in that it says "From left: T-shirt, Banana Republic.
DA>Jacket, Fab 208; Pants, Levi's Pants, UFO. T-shirt, Calvin Klein;
DA>Pants, UFO. Do are boys now have a side project that we wouldn't
DA>suspect or did Spin f*** up?



Oh dear me, I hope not.. can someone e-mail Spin and ask about this?
Or better yet mail the fan club..

Champagne.



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From: SOMMStella@aol.com
Subject: Rockline/AOL interview

I'm in the rockline auditorium now..and there's this big metallica thing
going on! Argh...and I also went to keyword events for todays events and it
said noting about Soundgarden!!  I hope this thing isnt cancelled. Well
there's still an hour left to go so hopefully this Metallica Interview will
be over. 

                                                           srogers

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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>

On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, grote wrote:

> "DOWNS"
> - never named: i know, a lot of listers will gasp at this one...but 
>   i'm sorry. yeah, it's a fun little punky song, but i just can't 
>   get into it. it's kind of a "what you see is what you get" song and
>   i just don't get anything new out of it with each listen.

	<gasping> oh no grote, not again! :)

	when I first heard dotu, I thought 'oh yeah, not a bad song' 
(probably the same as you), but now never named is one of my personal 
favourites. I just think that you have to marvel at the absolute 
*tightness* of the whole song.  not to mention the cool lyrics, the 
unreal squealch kim does in the verse riff, the riff itself (ben is a 
master), chris' lyrics and matt's unbelievable drumming.  littlejoe sort 
of wrote it off first as a jokey kind of primus-tune, and I know another 
list member who doesn't like the speed of the song, but if you listen to 
it a couple more times, then you may get into it a little more.  and just 
think of how it will sound live :)

                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
                       -----------------------------------


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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: I've got no songs in my heart...

On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Vasant Ramamurthy wrote:

> That said, does anybody know whether, on "Half", Ben is singing in his real
> voice or falsetto? I don't think it's his real voice, because I've heard
> his speaking voice, and it's pretty low. Why the hell did he sing so high
> for that song? Oh well, I guess bassists in SG have a history of bad

	as much as I like ben as a musician, good call on his half vocals 
vasant.  to me, they are so not in keeping with the rest of the 
superunknown sound that half grates on my nerves.  I'm all for artistic 
freedom, but after mailman, limo wreck and fourth of july, the last thing 
I want to hear is half.

	as for it being his real voice, I don't think so.  his singing on 
the hater record is very different to what he does on half (read: much 
better).  more singing for the sake of the song, rather than just singing 
to try to create some weird sound. if ben had sung half in his 'normal' 
voice, then I think it would have been a more listenable song.

                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
                       -----------------------------------


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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: string quartet no.12 in d flat major; opus 133...

On Sat, 8 Jun 1996, Limo Wreck wrote:

> I'm sittin here doing a paper for school, listening to DotU through headphones
> and I hear a guitar riff under the pre-chorus of "overfloater", particuraly
> (sp) in the right channel... and i just think it sounds really cool.
> So far, it seems that the  best way to listen to this album is through head
> phones... kinda weird, but very cool...

	I agree jeremy, overflaoter is way cool on the headphones. and 
here is something for you to try: the left channel (I think) at 3:41, 
just before they launch into that great 'wanna make it right' part. matt 
does this roll, and there is this (to me, anyway) cool click, like a 
rimshot or something.  the funny thing is that it isn't in the other 
channel, so either matt did two drum tracks (not likely) or his mics were 
set up so that it isn't on both speakers.

	at any rate, it is one of my favourite dotu moments, besides the
fact that it is on the speaker that has chris and his rhodes piano :) I
recommend that everyone listen to the song with just that channel on.  it
will make you hear the song in an *entirely* new way. 

                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
                       -----------------------------------


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From: Heather Aston <aston@eden.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Go Shroom!Go Shroom!

Hi Shroom! I just heard you on Rockline. I was surprised at how soft spoken 
you were-was that just nerves, or your regular speaking voice. After 
reading your posts, I expected you to sound kind of like Belle Watling in
"Gone With the Wind". That isn't a judgement on your character or anything;
she's my favorite in that movie. I've got to get to sleep, I have a job
interview tomorrow. Can someone who taped Rockline (Monday) make me a copy
of it? 

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