From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 7 Jun 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 07 Jun 1996 01:39:03 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 7 Jun 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: i'm an idiot Web stuff another aol gig Re: another aol gig I love you goodbye Bad driving habits Last post before I leave. Chris' Lyrics DOTU and Lollapalooza Blow Up The Outside World Boot camp mumble SPIN erm, stuff Re: Blow Up The Outside World He's all thumbs! Re: Blow Up The Outside World Re: He's all thumbs! Re: Blow Up The Outside World ramones & SG Re: DOTU in headphones and other stuff. NONE someone already posted about this... Trust conventional wisdom... Boot Camp: Sting or Pink Floyd? eric lanning sometimes it DOESN'T pay to watch mtv.... Re: DOTU in headphones and other stuff. Re: DOTU in headphones and other stuff. New Soungarden Site Half Re: New Soungarden Site Just me babbling (as usual)... That new SG site ------------------------------------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: i'm an idiot what is the p.o. box for the fanclub? i finally got my act together to send them a check and the address ISN"T on the iMusic web site! argh!!!! they are soooo worried about shit... jeez... deal with the BASICS! never mind that it took AGES for the pages to load with my 14.4 connection .... anyway... if someone can email me so we don't clog up the list, that would be nice. thank you. p.s. seth, if it's on the page, i sure as hell couldn't find it :( ------------------------------ Subject: Web stuff From: seth First, an apology: the Lollapalooza Friend-Finder that's on the private mailing list page is horribly out-of-date. It doesn't reflect any changes to the tour schedule that were made since the very first batch of tentative dates. I jumped the gun when I set that up. Anyway, is it worth it to update it? I would just have to delete the people who signed up for dates that are no longer happening. If you think it's of any real use, I'll fix it tomorrow. Let me know. Second, more shameless begging: it's summer, I have no classes, and that means I have plenty of time to devote to the SG page. I want the site to be 50% larger by the time school starts again in the fall. I don't know how realistic that is, but we can do it if people help out. I've currently interested in finding pictures of those ultracool A&M promo items (a wriggling hand for "Hands All Over," the finger in a jar for Badmotorfinger, the "Jesus Christ Pose" candles with matching Badmotorfinger lighters, the Lollapalooza 1992 survival kits, the Superunknown backpacks, etc.). If you've got any of this stuff, and could take some pictures of it and send them to me, that would be excellent. Aside from that, I'm looking for the usual: anything that's not already on the page. Anything. For those who are interested in some cool (old, with Jason Everman) pictures of the band, I added the photos from the "Hands All Over" 10" to the page the other day (among other things), and the scans came out surprisingly well. Two of them have slits in them -- this is because they slide together when the cover folds up. seth ------------------------------ From: Stella Rogers Subject: another aol gig I've been bored all day today and been up and down the net looking for interesting SG related stuff to post to the list. Anyways for all you AOL junkies, Soundgarden are doing 2 online appearences in a row! Yes yes, they are doing one on June 9th and June 10th. Ok here's the skinny for June 9th's: Go to keyword: MRL It's gonna start at 9:30pm EST. And the June 10th appearence Shroom already gave us details for. I figure they are basically gonna talk about the same shit on both dates. But this would be a cool chance for us to bug them, twice in one week! Can't you see Chris now, "Oh shit, it's that Shroom chick again!" ;-) j/k. Anyhows, do what you gotta do. Laters :) srogers http://www.fix.net/~srogers ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: another aol gig >for all you AOL junkies, Soundgarden are doing 2 online appearences >in a row! Yes yes, they are doing one on June 9th and June 10th. Stella, you are a Goddess!! Thank you thank you, a million times, thank you!! I would have totally missed this interview, 'cuz technically Sunday is still part of the weekend!! I checked it out as soon as I got your letter!! It's interesting... both Rockline and Modern Rock Live are going to have interviews with SG on consecutive days. THAT doesn't happen very often. >I figure they are basically gonna talk about the same >shit on both dates. But this would be a cool chance for us to >bug them, twice in one week! Can't you see Chris now, "Oh shit, it's >that Shroom chick again!" ;-) j/k. HAHAHAHAHA!!! <~~~ My evil laugh. Oh yaaaaah baby... I'm going to have some fun with this!! ACK!! I need more questions!! Hmmm... I'll think of something!! Thanks Stella... you're "da bomb!!" Heheheh... Shroomy "Why yes, Shroom, I do enjoy being spanked!! That was an excellent question!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" Subject: I love you goodbye A sad hello to my fellow listers, Well, here it is June 6, and frankly I think this is my last day on the list. If I can get all my work done today I'm not coming in tomorrow, so email after today will be pretty darned hit or miss. UNFORTUNATELY! I joined in late November, not quite knowing what to expect, but right from day one, Sethmeister was welcoming, cool, friendly and helpful. Seth, my man, I can never thank you enough for doing the web page for our zine! And also thanks to any listers who have given us a try. We're forging ahead, sort of stuck between coasts right now, but looking to a future that includes Seattle and more tutaledge from Jeff Gilbert. Anyway, I found I could always at least get a smile off the list, if not some cool debates and chances to offer my own 2 cents. Thanks to all who ever took the time to read my posts. If I ever stepped on anyone's toes, I apologize, but in a community this size I think we all run that risk, don't we? Some people understand, some don't, some don't even attempt, but that's life. What I'll always hold dear is that I made some really, REALLY cool friends on this list! Or b/c of the list, and they all say they're gonna miss me and the instant connection via email. Dear friends, SO WILL I!!!! But if anyone on the list ever wants to reach me, here's my P.O. Box--it should be good until at least October, maybe even longer, depending: Deb Servey P. O. Box 417 Girard, PA 16417 I don't know what else to say except I'm gonna miss you all, when you argue and flame--hey, we're a family! I'm also going to try like heck to get a GOOD computer at home this summer so maybe I'll be back before I'm really expecting to! (Hopehope) Until then, mi ricordero di lei sempre; buon giornata! later...deb translation--i'll remeber you always; have a good day! /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mercyhurst Preparatory School Keeping you connected in 1995! /\/\/\/\/\(C)1995TMK/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ From: Ned Locke Subject: Bad driving habits Hi, I'm newbie Ned and I just want to say that DOTU has made me a worse driver (I was bad enough after the the other albums!), especially Ty Cobb and An Unkind. Not to encourage speeding on our highways, but I highly recommend popping those tunes in the stereo when driving home from 8 long hours of work. ------------------------------ From: "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" Subject: Last post before I leave. Ladies and gentlemen, I had a moment of enlightment yesterday(well, and some days ago but now it's all recollected). I was enlightened with the meanings of 2 songs: Superunknown and Rhinosaur. Superunknown: It's about the Internet or TV...take a read at those lyrics with that on mind. =-) Rhinosaur: Anybody Megadeth's album called "Countdown to extintion??" Same theme different story. I think it's about the extintion of the rhinocerous(however you spell that). And the words depict man talking to the animals... Comments? Anyone? Don't reply to be 'cause I'll be long gone to home so. C-YA! and have fun with this topic if any of y'all decide to develop it. Peace! \/ Andrew Northcutt http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/northcut/ Add a: "TABS/" to see my SG tabs ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Chris' Lyrics On Wednesday Toni wrote: > I > think some of the songs come from emotions or experiences that prehaps he > has had but I would like to think that Chris' life isn't as painful as some > of his lyrics suggest. I hope so too. But I think Chris is a pretty moody guy, as he himself admits, so it would figure that his lyrics would be moody too. I just think they are probably more personal than he lets on in interviews, whether they are from actual experience or just feelings he has. Kathie ------------------------------ From: pubah@grove.ufl.EDU Subject: DOTU and Lollapalooza Hello Everyone, This is my first post since joining the list over a month ago. First of all, I have to say that I bought both the vinyl and the digipack version of the CD of DOTU, and they're great. DOTU may possibly be their best album to date (I do own all of their albums). By the way, for those of you who are keeping track, the only version of the CD I have seen down here in Florida is the digipack. My favs on the album include Blow Up The Outside World, Zero Chance, and Dusty. I wonder how anyone could not like this album, but while I was at a local used CD store yesterday, I saw 2 used copies for sale. What are these people thinking? I can't see how a Soundgarden fan wouldn't like this album. One quick question for anybody who might know. I heard on the radio that Lollapalooza is coming to Jacksonville on July 21st, but ticketmaster online has yet to list that date, and the official Lollapalooza page has that date as unconfirmed. Does anybody know what's the deal with this? If so, please email me or post an response. Thanks Jason ****** **** ***** **** ***** **** *** **** **** *** *** **** ** *** *** *** ****** **** *** *** *** *** *** *** ************* *** ***** ***** ------------------------------ From: rockhds@giga.com (Anja Gonzalez) Subject: Blow Up The Outside World Hi there! Two days ago I had the chance to listen to DOTU (I'll have to wait to et my own copy until august 'cause a friend of mine will get it for me in the US since it's a bit cheaper there). Anyway, while I was listening to DOTU I was a little bit tired so I just closed my eyes for a while. When BUTOW came on I started to have this very weird experience... I don't know I just felt I was going somewhere far away from the record store I was... totally cool. Has anyone else had some strange experience with any Soundgarden song? The album rocks... and I think it's the best they have done... the wait was really worth it! See ya! Anja ------------------------------ From: Mark Miller Subject: Boot camp mumble HAs anyone taken the time to figure out what is being said in the first couple seconds of the song? I think it ends just before the verse starts. E-mail me direct please. Mark - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark Miller Department of Chemistry University of California, San Diego mtmiller@chem.ucsd.edu - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: SPIN From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Got my copy of SPIN mag. last night.. Again great pictures of SG, love the front cover and the one of Chris on page 41- i.e., "Leader of the Pack" - damn the SG men are beautiful. They make the most incredible emotional music and they have this look that just says "We're here, if you don't like it tough shit". There is a 1989 picture of Chris that you should have for the Web page Seth.. Caption on it is "Jailbait", he could be doing a Calvin Kline Ad.. I will now read the article, I have savoring the pictures... Sorry I'm a visual person, frustrated artist, I love pictures (mostly B/W) that show close up the soul of a person. The picture on pp 41, is done in mutated colors and as you look at it you want to know what Chris is thinking, where his mind is going. You just get sucked in by the imagery of it.... Jamie BTW: Caryn there is an article on Pattie Smith in this issue... ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: erm, stuff re: fan club info thanks to those who wrote.. i know the address is on the albums, what i didn't know was how much it was... not that i'm any smarter now (yes seth, i wrote and asked) re: metallica i do consider myself a metallica fan, but not a rabid one. however, all this moaning about how they have sold out just because they CUT THEIR HAIR is making me want to go buy the record. ;-P re: chris cornell and dave navarro?!!! (see, seth, sg content!) the divine shroom said... >Just think... you people who watch MTV >could someday soon be hearing me describe Chris tongue-kissing Dave Navarro >(in full detail). Heheheh... Just a thought... could you please mail me privately about this??? are there pictures? a video perhaps? and i thought eddie vedder tongue kissing anthony kiedis was hot re: magazines got raygun (i HATE the layout of that magazine!) and someone kindly picked up that request mag for me... lovely pix there and a nice article, but i think kim was a little too hard on us espresso drinkers.. ;) re: lolla & setlists & what do the tshirts look like? is anyone on here going to the first lolla date? seth, do we have anything set up on the page for the tour? a place to report setlists and reviews, or are we jsut posting here and then you;'ll appropriate it accordingly? re: tshirts i was at this cool tshirt site on the web (http://www.tshirtnow.com) -- they have nice stuff BUT no sg shirts, so i wrote and suggested that they do (since their other shirts were pretty awesome) -- they wrote back and said that they would be up "soon". you might want to go check it out and bug them too. :) i think that's it a friend of mine has a theory that since lolla is impending, the band will just HAVE to do a secret warm up date in seattle ya right later all - --caryn - --------------- "Hey Caryn... Please join Shroom, Dave and I in the hot tub." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer [hope you don't mind, shroomy!] ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Rick Agrait) Subject: Re: Blow Up The Outside World > Anyway, while I was listening to DOTU I was a little bit tired so I >just closed my eyes for a while. When BUTOW came on I started to have this >very weird experience... I don't know I just felt I was going somewhere far >away from the record store I was... totally cool. Has anyone else had some >strange experience with any Soundgarden song? every single time i listen to applebite with headphones it seems like i get sucked into the music. and whenever boot camp finishes and i take off the headphones it feels like i came back down to earth after being gone for 65 minutes. - -hasswipee p.s. not capitalizing is trendy :) <-- so are these j/k <-- and these. ok ill stop now >One last thing... have you people noticed that this "trendiness" thing >is getting just a tad bit out of hand? ------------------------------ Subject: He's all thumbs! From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) >On Jun 05, 1996 21:23:49, 'vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy)' >wrote: >>Wait, wasn't the last Beatles album Let It Be I stand humbly corrected! I blame it on damaged brain cells from my youthful experiments?? Do I have to turn in my Beatle card collection and my "I love George" button??? One more thing a radio station here in Bullstown announced Metallica A-Z on Saturday. They are going to play every Mettalica song every recorded from 8 am until ??? Damn, why can't it be Soundgarden Sunday!!!!!! Toni BTW:did you guitarists out there know Kim had double jointed thumbs??? They look so freaky in the picture in Guitar Player magazine (July) Does that explain some of the stuff he plays?? ------------------------------ From: Bleach Subject: Re: Blow Up The Outside World I agree. It is great headphone music. 'Specially in the car. Long trips, you can listen to it 3 times all the way through because there is enough songs on it. You dont get sick of the same 8-10 songs. Just my input. Later --==Bleach.at.primenet.dot.com==-- --==Support Gibson, buy a Les Paul==-- (bleach@primenet.com) <-- for slow people On Thu, 6 Jun 1996, Rick Agrait wrote: > > > Anyway, while I was listening to DOTU I was a little bit tired so I > >just closed my eyes for a while. When BUTOW came on I started to have this > >very weird experience... I don't know I just felt I was going somewhere far > >away from the record store I was... totally cool. Has anyone else had some > >strange experience with any Soundgarden song? > > every single time i listen to applebite with headphones it seems like i get > sucked into the music. and whenever boot camp finishes and i take off the > headphones it feels like i came back down to earth after being gone for 65 > minutes. > -hasswipee > > p.s. not capitalizing is trendy :) <-- so are these j/k <-- and these. > ok ill stop now > >One last thing... have you people noticed that this "trendiness" thing > >is getting just a tad bit out of hand? > ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: He's all thumbs! REally? that's preety cool! that explains why he's amongst the best guitarists? See, it's not all in the wrist! ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: Blow Up The Outside World I don't know if anyone finds this, being all soundgarden fans, but in boot Camp, the first time Chris sings"far away from here", dosesn't almost sound like he's sulking, kind of, or crying? It's like he got so deep into it. Maybe it's just because I too want to get "far away from here"! i wish it was longer, 'cause as soon as it's over, I just sit still for about a minute to came down to earth! Applebite is probably the perfect song to put you in a trance, just don't listen to it while you're drunk! Blow Up The Outside World is just perfect when you wish that everything but you, could just disapper! just say blow up the outside world! "I don't like what you got me hanging from" ------------------------------ From: andreap@kidstar.com (Andrea Pinto) Subject: ramones & SG One of the local radio stations in seattle announced this week that the Ramones will play their 2 final shows ever in seattle after lollapolooza is over. The radio station also stated that the Ramones invited Pearl Jam & Soundgarden to party with them after the shows. I know that the Ramones have been threatening to call it quits for awhile, so we'll see if this is really the end for them. I think it's interesting that they'd choose to play their last shows in seattle & not new york. Wonder if PJ or SG would jump on stage & get in a little jam session? ------------------------------ From: Steve Koca Subject: Re: DOTU in headphones and other stuff. At 05:50 PM 6/6/96 -0400, you wrote: > >Greg Dunbar wrote: >>If you've only listened to it >>on speakers, give the phones a try. Okay, I did listen to DOTU on the headphones for the first time and did notice a few things that I did not before. Such as in Ty Cobb, in the lyric booklet it says: I got the glass, I got the steel I got the love to hate but listening to it in the phones it sounds like Chris is saying I got everything instead of I got the love to hate. I also noticed that no attention seems like it's in a rush. It just sems that it should be a slower song or something. I don't know, maybe I'm paying too much attention to the songs details instead of just listening and enjoying the great SG songs. At the beginning of Boot Camp there is definately a voice saying some stuff. I have no idea what it is saying though, the only word I could make out was school. So far my favorite song off the album is overfloater, my least favorite is applebite. I just don't understand applebite, can someone tell me why they like it? It just seems like it is the second coming of 665->667 or something, except less satanic. Also, what the hell are the Mesa Boogie, Ayotte, Zildjian, Vic Firth, Remo and Ernie Ball? It says a line to buy this stuff at the bottom of the very last page in the booklet. But I wouldn't buy them, because then I'd being trendy, right Shroom? Okay, that's all I have to say for now. Goodbye, Twinkie The Kid aka Steve Koca - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Make a move and take the fifth cause ya can't take the first" -Rage Against The Machine - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Gardena@aol.com Subject: NONE Did I hear this correctly??? SG will take the second leg of he KISS tour...Is this just a rumor or what? WHITEOUT! Dena :)~ shroom you live on the edge!!!! > You know... dangerous stuff like running with >scissors, and tearing the tags off of pillows and mattresses. ;) >"One maggot, slurp it down" YUMMY!! ------------------------------ From: overfloater@bbs.cowland.com Subject: someone already posted about this... But Kim Thayil is on the cover of Guitar Player, I immediately started to whimper in the supermarket when I saw it:) I also saw that Circus had Soundgarden in it.. some 'lil known facts' or some happy horseshit.. needless to say I already KNEW the 'lil known facts' and it said that Ben's full name is Benjamin Shepherd. Whaaaaatever. Champagne. ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Trust UnknMan said in Thurs. digest: > I'll have to say I don't trust people on the list... as a matter of fact I > don't trust anyone. Everyone be careful because you can be screwed by > anyone: internet people, people you work with, or even your 'friends'. While I agree that we need to be careful I think you miss out on alot in life if you become so fearful of others that you become afraid to take any risks. Sometimes things work out great, other times you get screwed, but you always learn and grow. When I first started playing on the internet, and I mean within probably a week, I had my password stolen simply out of my own stupidity (it had nothing to do with trust, more with inexperience) so I have gotten much more careful about the internet in general. This list, however, is an anomaly in my opinion, at least as far as the people I have had the pleasure of communicating with personally. It is weird that you would trust someone you don't know, and maybe those of us who do are foolish, but the reality is I do trust the people on the list. I generally operate on intuition, and so far it just feels right. Kathie ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: conventional wisdom... hey all...prepare to dwell in my dementia... :) is anyone here familiar with newsweek magazine??? well, they have this segment in there called "conventional wisdom" where they pick an issue and give "ups" or "downs" to different aspects or people involved with this issue...y'know, like the issue is "decision '96" and each candidate would get an "up" or "down" based on the direction that his "stock" is going in the whole shebang... well...(sg content, here i come...) after uncountable listens to dotu, i've decided to share my "conventional wisdom" about each track on the record...meaning, which songs are consistently growing on me with each listen, which ones are losing some of their appeal, etc...here goes... "BIG, HARD, WICKED RISING UPS" - - ty cobb: it took a while for this to really have an impact, but WOW. sure, it's a simple little tune, but i haven't heard this much dead-on aggressive power since the ramones. and that chorus...hard-hitting (and headed) and sinfully hummable, all at once. - - burden in my hand: sure, it's probably the catchiest, most accessible song on the album. that doesn't keep it from being one of my instant all-time fave sg tunes. SERIOUSLY. check ben's bass on the first few bars of the chorus for evidence of this man's emergence as a PLAYER. - - tighter and tighter: what can you say? tight slides on the instrumentation and some of the finest vocal hooks ever written with "sleep tight for me" and "hope it's a sweet ride" - - overfloater: infectious. from a whisper to gorgeous harmonies to a gut-wrenching screamable chorus. all layered over a low-down, almost motown groove. what more could you ask for? - - boot camp: god, what a song. fun with the phaser. and how 'bout that teaser of an ending??? just when you're about ready to get angry that such an emotionally powerful song is so short, you realize that the emotion has increased tenfold BECAUSE OF the abrupt ending and the instant feeling of isolation. cc is a true genius. "UP" - - never the machine forever: thayil breaks out. an exercise in rhythmic variation but almost TOO much so...a difficult song to listen to but one that i'm POSITIVE will have lasting appeal, for me anyway... - - zero chance: beautiful song. a tear-jerker. if there were a little more variation in dynamics and possibly a little less reliance on cc's vocals (let's face it...without chris' pipes this song would be slightly above average at best) it would be top tier. - - applebite: i don't know what it is about this song, but it just gives me shivers. no, there's not much too it, but it just has a spooky mood to it (fantastic processing on cc's vocals just tops it off...it wouldn't sound right with intelligible lyrics. :) ) "EVENS" - - pretty noose: maybe because i've heard it more than the rest. a great "sloppy-sounding" song, and one that was obviously recorded with that goal in mind. again, a good (not superb) song that doesn't particularly showcase the band's talents but that will surely have lasting appeal. - - dusty: hater is in tha house. kind of funky, but i just don't particularly get into this one. definitely different and a stretch for the full-band sg arrangement, though, and that's nice to see. (i can see this one growing on me more in the future...just like the ENTIRE hater album) - - blow up the outside world: i liked this one a lot at first, but it kind of leveled off after that. definitely a solid track and probably a good bet for a single release after "burden," but a bit too predictable for my tastes. - - no attention: i didn't like this one at all at first, but it's kind of grown on me. a bit pretentious on the lyrics, mr. cornell, but i'll forgive you... :) i like the "slow-down" at the end. - - an unkind: kind of a spastic song, but not a bad track. a powerful chorus makes up for so-so verses on this one. "DOWNS" - - never named: i know, a lot of listers will gasp at this one...but i'm sorry. yeah, it's a fun little punky song, but i just can't get into it. it's kind of a "what you see is what you get" song and i just don't get anything new out of it with each listen. - - rhinosaur: not a bad song, mind you, but similar in nature to "never named"...simple and easy to listen to, but almost to a fault. and it might help if i could picture anyone but ozzy osborne singing over that main riff... (paranoid, anyone???) :) and let's not forget kim's first lead break straight off "monsters of metal"... - - switch opens: i'll have to agree with the lister who said (quite a while ago) that this is just too "un-soundgarden" of a song. too light and wispy for me to get into, and not much variation in power and dynamics. above all, a damn fine record. i can honestly see all of the "even" and above tracks sticking in my head for the rest of my life...the "downs" i don't think i'll ever really get into. i'll stick with my assessment that this is sg's second-best effort behind badmotorfinger...better than ltl and superunk, imho. oh well, i've wasted too much space. bye. - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Boot Camp: Sting or Pink Floyd? Champagne said in Thurs. digest: > I think he sounds a lot like Sting on Boot Camp. I played it for Mr. > Champagne, though, who is a big Sting fan, and he said it reminded him > more of Pink Floyd. I agree with Mr. Champagne. Pink Floyd definitely comes to mind when I hear Boot Camp. When people started talking about Sting I had to go back and listen with him in mind but Pink Floyd it is. Kathie ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: eric lanning is eric lanning still on this list? if so, reply bish, i need to axe you a question ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@CompuServe.COM> Subject: sometimes it DOESN'T pay to watch mtv.... ok, so i'm at my friends house hoping, praying that *MAYBE* mtv will play Pretty Noose. i had just seen the new metallica video (uhhhhh, scary) when beach mtv comes on and the stupid veejay says, "this next vid's from a band that will be making some noise this summer at Lollapalooza" (note: it hasn't been more than 15 minutes since i've seen until it sleeps). so, with trembling anticipation, i race over and sit in front of the screen, waiting to finally see it, when she continues. "metallica with 1990's enter sandman." AHHHHHGGGGRRRR, needless to say, i was fuming....... and of course, very disappointed. is metallica becoming trendy? - -Mophandlemama -will i *ever* see the video ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Re: DOTU in headphones and other stuff. At 05:52 PM 6/6/96 -0400, you wrote: > Also, what the hell are the Mesa Boogie, >Ayotte, Zildjian, Vic Firth, Remo and Ernie Ball? It says a line to buy >this stuff at the bottom of the very last page in the booklet. But I >wouldn't buy them, because then I'd being trendy, right Shroom? Okay, >that's all I have to say for now. > > Goodbye, > Twinkie The Kid Mesa boogie-Guitar amplifiers-best amp in the world for under a grand. Zildjian-Drum cymbals remo-drums ernie ball-guitar strings ayotte-? vic firth-? ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: Re: DOTU in headphones and other stuff. JG>ayotte-? JG>vic firth-? I know Vic Firth is sticks. No clue about Ayotte though. ------------------------------ From: targaz@primenet.com Subject: New Soungarden Site Don't forget to visit the NEW Soundgarden site on the block! http://www.uidaho.edu/~chip9162/soundgarden/soundgrd.html It wil DEFINITELY be worth your time! Enjoy! Enigma ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Beck's Page: http://www.primenet.com/~targaz/ Rob's Page: http://www.uidaho.edu/~chip9162/ ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Half First off, lemme just say this. You talk about Metallica on a Metallica mailing list. You talk about SG on SOMMS. That said, does anybody know whether, on "Half", Ben is singing in his real voice or falsetto? I don't think it's his real voice, because I've heard his speaking voice, and it's pretty low. Why the hell did he sing so high for that song? Oh well, I guess bassists in SG have a history of bad singing, e.g "Circle of Power" :-) Vasant ****************************************************************************** The Refuge of the Damned http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html Lots of music, photos, links, and more! vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Subject: Re: New Soungarden Site From: seth > http://www.uidaho.edu/~chip9162/soundgarden/soundgrd.html > > It wil DEFINITELY be worth your time! Enjoy! Worth my time? On the contrary, I am truly offended by the new site. You have ripped off everything that I and many other Soundgarden fans have worked for TWO YEARS to compile. You have not ONE THING that you came up with on your own. There is NO REASON to have more Soundgarden sites. All it does is duplicate effort unnecessarily and create more confusion for Soundgarden fans when looking for Net resources. I had hoped that people would realize we're all working together on the Unofficial SG page and that they wouldn't create new sites for no reason. If you're just duplicating what we've already done, what's the point? I've gone through a ton of negotiation with other people to ensure that none of us work on the same things, that we all work together to create one comprehensive site. Look at Yahoo: do you want the Soundgarden category to wind up looking like the Nirvana category? I'm sorry if you thought my opinion would be different, and I'm sorry if I've offended anyone with this message, but think about what you're doing. I consider Soundgarden fans to be an intelligent breed, a group that understands that the only way to accomplish a goal is to work together on it. This "new" Soundgarden site goes completely against that. Offended, seth ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Just me babbling (as usual)... >I wonder how anyone could not like this album, but while I was at a >local used CD store yesterday, I saw 2 used copies for sale. What are >these people thinking? This is interesting!! I've noticed a few DOTU digipacks available in the used CD stores, too!! I think that people are having a hard time getting in to the whole CD. I've been harassing some of my friends to listen to it completely. So far, I haven't been very lucky. But give me time... I can get to anyone if I try hard enough!! >Also, what the hell are the Mesa Boogie, >Ayotte, Zildjian, Vic Firth, Remo and Ernie Ball? It says a line to buy >this stuff at the bottom of the very last page in the booklet. But I >wouldn't buy them, because then I'd being trendy, right Shroom? Right!! Avoid trend at all costs!! Trend is evil. Trend will be the downfall of all men. And what's the worst? TREND IS UNCOOL!!! Heheheh... Ok, seriously... I use Ernie Ball Super Slinky's on my guitars. *Bloody hell!!* (Heheheh, thanks Grant) Alot of good it does me, though. Those are supposed to be nice, lightweight strings... but they seem the same to me as all others. I'm such a musical spaz. Heheheh... >Did I hear this correctly??? SG will take the second leg of he >KISS tour...Is this just a rumor or what? Oh God... NOOOOOOOOO!!!! That would be SO wrong. But I know that good old Ben won't let me down!! He doesn't like Kiss!! They won't do it!! THEY WON'T DO IT, I SAY!!! First they hook up on a tour with Metallica, and now possibly Kiss? THEY CAN'T DO THIS TO ME!! Ummm... I'm fine... really I am... >is metallica becoming trendy? YES. >"Hey Caryn... Please join Shroom, Dave and I in the hot tub." > ~ Chris Cornell > (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer >>[hope you don't mind, shroomy!] Ummm... ok!! But bring some beer!! Heheheh... anyone else? I think it's about damned time we had an official SOMMS hot tub, anyway. Shroom (Is there a ten-step program that deals with Soundgarden obsessions?) "Shroomy, I love it when you type dirty to me!!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ Subject: That new SG site From: seth Just want to clarify what really pisses me off about the new site: it's not the fact that there's another site -- it's the fact that it provides nothing new, and aside from providing nothing new, every single image -- *every* one -- on this "new" site was taken from the unofficial and official SG pages. Back when the official page was first created, sure it was kind of a shock to see a new Soundgarden site all of a sudden, but at least they use all of their own material -- they don't rip off stuff we've done, and all of their images are entirely unique. But with this new site, and a few others I've seen, people claim to have created a brand new Soundgarden site when in reality they've borrowed a shitload of images from us and added some shadows to them. That's not "creating," that's stealing. Between all the people that have contributed to the unofficial Soundgarden project, there are easily more than a thousand hours of work put into it, and it's not fair to all the people that put in that work to portray our efforts as their own. Perhaps I feel a bit more attached to the SG page than most, and that's why I'm so easily offended by stuff like this. Believe me when I tell you I've devoted more time to it than I've devoted to anything else I've ever done (we're talking hundreds upon hundreds of hours here), and for some reason, I'm determined to work on it until I can do no more. I know that I don't want my work being ripped off. Whatever, fuck it, enough outpouring. seth ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 148] ****************************************