From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 4 Jun 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 04 Jun 1996 03:23:50 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 4 Jun 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: You know Beatle juice Re: An article(long! Don't read if you have a short-spanned attention!) new Soundgarden Pretty Noose video review DOTU reviews and STuFF Pretty Noose in the origin, Aust members Re: Pretty Noose video review Singed Newbie?? Re: Arbitrary Words that Sound Good Re: new Soundgarden Like Suicide Hiro and Truly Boot camp favorite moments... Who Weekly - Down on the Upside review #3432.22 the review of DOTU in ATN SG fans Vs. the world go bulls... Quote Soundgarden AOL Interview Re: go bulls...+my dream What is this, What is that???? Re: Pretty Noose video review Re: Who Weekly - Down on the Upside review #3432.22 That fine, fine line... RE: Everclear Re: Quote Re: go bulls... Review of "Pretty Noose" Video Re: go bulls... who (the hell wrote this) weekly review... Jesus Christ Pose single Re: DOTU reviews and STuFF Re: Pretty Noose in the origin, Aust members ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Laurence Schwarz Subject: You know Got to www.latimes.com, go to their home page & search for Soundgarden. There's an interview with Chris. ------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: Beatle juice Just a short thought, I'm rush , SG said that SUPERUNKNOWN was the WHITE ALBUM (BEATLES) to them, and I think that DOTU is the ABBEY ROAD, to me, of course... ROBIN lOVe iS LikE SuiCIDe *********************************************** Universidad Regiomontana Division de ciencias Economicas Administrativas http://www.ur.mx/ *********************************************** ------------------------------ From: cstone@Phoenix.kent.edu (HasNoName) Subject: Re: An article(long! Don't read if you have a short-spanned attention!) > trade," he recalls. "Tad(Doyle, the portly leader of the now defunct band > Tad) worked at Kinko's for a while, that was king of the 'rock' place to > work." Did Tad break up? If so, when did this happen? Sorry for the non-SG content. Carl - -Carl M Stone--NOT INSANE! IN '96--KSU parks it and locks it, NOT RESPONSIBLE- I hope something good came in the mail today so that I have a reason to live!! -Zippy The Pinhead http://nimitz.mcs.kent.edu/~cstone/ for Lolla.inf,FiresgnThtre,tapetrading,etc ------------------------------ From: MJRyan@prodigy.com (MR MICHAEL J RYAN) Subject: new Soundgarden I am new to the group, but have been listening to Soundgarden since '90. I have been listening to DOTU several times a day since it came out and is to me their best album yet. The album puts you on a rollercoaster ride filled with emotion and energy. The whole album comes off with a great vibe and I love it. In my opinion, what makes Soundgarden one of the best bands out there is that they continually get better. Each album improves with new diversity and new ground musically. I always thought it kind of sucked when a bands first few albums are considered there best. It means the band has already peaked and that it. With Soundgarden, there peak seems to be far away. ------------------------------ From: MJRyan@prodigy.com (MR MICHAEL J RYAN) Subject: Pretty Noose video review This is a review of the Pretty Noose video from Entertainment Weekly. It had to happen. Alterna-rock finally has a sexist video to call its own. While the PC-pumped grunge revolution vowed to forever banish frat house drooling from its clips, director Frank Kozik brings it back in full leer. He sets part of this clip in a porn palace, focusing on a writhing stripper sporting devil horns, no less. If Kozick sold the band on irony, they got rooked. He could've hawked this junk to Whitesnake. GRADE: C Kind of a crappy review. What does he know, this is the same guy who gave the new Cure video a B. My personal grade: B+ ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: DOTU reviews and STuFF From the ATN review (I think): >Ozzy Osbourne and Chris >Cornell speak to the hair-shrouded dorks, fled from with shrieks by >females, driven to Lovecraft paperbacks and mushrooms and airplane >glue, waking on a sweat-soaked bed with a half-bag of stunzies, and no >memory of sophomore year. Mushrooms? Did someone say mushrooms? ;) Puh-leeze... what kind of generalization on guys is THIS? Fled from by females? Whatever. He just described my last 5 boyfriends. >Chris Cornell looks like a God; Ozzy looks like a guy I knew >from college who lived on Pepsi, caught scurvy, twice, and is now a >Microsoft millionaire I like this guy!! He knows what the hell he's talking about!! CC = GOD >"I was sittin' in a >magic cat/Four walkin' mirrors/Devil's on fire and his laundry >disappeared/One maggot, slurp it down/Suckin' on a ball and >chain...Baldheaded fuck you all/Paul did it, fuck you all/Baldheaded >fuck you all/ON VIDEOOOOOOO!" I wonder if this stuff ever gets back to Chris? I wonder if he'd get a kick out of it? I wonder what kind of drugs this guy is on, 'cuz I want some, and Nothingman probably will, too. Ok... on to the other stuff... >I had been wondering why Metallica did not want to come to big cities with Lolla >for a long time. Then the other day my friend came up to me and said, "I know >why Lolla isn't comming to big cities...because after Lolla is done, they are >going to come back and do a bunch of arenas." I could not belive him, but I was >wondering if anyone else had heard that? I heard the exact same thing. Metallica (who I couldn't care less about) has DICtated most of the Lolla locations. What kind of sorry bastards are they, anyway? And what the hell is up with that new video? Did they start taking make-up lessons from Dave Navarro, or what? Idiots. And there's one guy in it (don't ask me names, I'm NOTNOTNOT a Metallica fan) who looks like he's trying to be a Chris Cornell/Dave Navarro mix. Can't say I really blame him, though. In the article that was in the Chicago Sun-Times, this was mentioned: >Cornell, who writes the majority of the band's lyrics, has admitted that >sometimes his songs are nothing more than just arbitrary words that sound >good together. But that hasn't stopped fans and critics from analyzing the >band's music, which is often bleak and chilling. Nothing more than arbitrary words that sound good together? When did Chris 'admit' that?!? I'm sorry, but this 'news' (if it's true) has come as a disappointment to me. Somehow it seems to belittle all the emotion I feel has been put into the lyrics. Can someone please tell me which songs are just words thrown together? I'd like to know if I'm over-analyzing this stuff. Or perhaps the paranoia is back? Hmmm... And that article in a Florida paper... >and put them in the middle of a media frenzy where even such >trivialities as singer Chris Cornell's hair >length were popular topics of discussion. Excuse me?!? Since when has Chris' hair become trivial?!? ;) >"I think some of the tunes on this record that can be viewed as >radio songs are a little bit meatier than the ones in our last >record--not taking anything away from those," says Cameron. AHA!!! From the horses mouth (whatever that's supposed to mean). Superunknown was a poppier album than any other SG tuneage out there!!! Yah, ok... flame me for this!! I DON'T CARE!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oops... sorry 'bout this long babbling post. I've just gotten back from a looooooooooooooooong weekend of doing things that have probably shortened my life span by several years. You know... dangerous stuff like running with scissors, and tearing the tags off of pillows and mattresses. ;) Shroom the innocent angel (who just happens to lust after Chris Cornell's sexy body) "Push push push till we get some motion..." ~ Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Pretty Noose in the origin, Aust members Hey ya, Everyone in Aust. watch the footy? Well all of QLD and NSW I guess. Anyway anyone catch the half-time break? As it came back into the footy, the nice sounds of pretty noose came streaming out of the TV :) COOL :) Was rather suprised, that it got picked up so quick on TV. I think someone in TV land is a SG freak, cause how many shows use the music. I think we had this descusion earlier (Sports tonight uses them heaps) sounded good watching the slowmo of the big hits. Oh well that's all for today, cause QLD lost and well the ref needs some help :) seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "Down on the Upside" by Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: Re: Pretty Noose video review > > This is a review of the Pretty Noose video from Entertainment Weekly. > > > It had to happen. Alterna-rock finally has a sexist video to call > its own. While the PC-pumped grunge revolution vowed to forever > banish frat house drooling from its clips, director Frank Kozik > brings it back in full leer. He sets part of this clip in a porn > palace, focusing on a writhing stripper sporting devil horns, no less. > If Kozick sold the band on irony, they got rooked. He could've > hawked this junk to Whitesnake. GRADE: C once again, a reviewer fails to see the relationship between the video and the song...nor have they read up to see why Kozik put footage in it of a dancing girl in it. Sorry Frank, you deserve better.... jeremy ------------------------------ From: "J.Molton" Subject: Singed Newbie?? Well, everything seems to have died down over the last few days so I guess it's safe to write again. I took the advice given to me and the last few days I've been perusing the sg net pages and I have to admit that I've learnt all sorts new about sg. I never actually realised I knew so little about sg, and had never considered myself to be a 'new' fan of the band, which I obviously am, basically because up until now I'd never really had the chance to interact with other sg fans. There is of course nothing wrong with being a new fan, the point has been made that it doesn't matter when you get into sg, just being into them is what's important. I was amused by the reaction to my flaming though, to be honest it didn't bother me at all and I won't be demanding some sort of an apology. With hindsight I know it wasn't the greatest contribution to the mailing list, ( I can't believe I called Applebite Snakebite, I guess it was some sort of Freudian slip ) but the flaming was still unjustified. Anyway thanks for all the useful replies to ' What's Missing', I'll be trying to get my hands on the early sg stuff from now on. Jon the Newbie ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: Arbitrary Words that Sound Good If I'm not mistaken, didn't Chris say something along the lines that BHS had no real meaning. That it was just a bunch a phrases that sounded good together? Who knows. He may have said that with tongue planted firmly in cheek, but the interviewer didn't interpret it that way. Greg ------------------------------ From: Bleach Subject: Re: new Soundgarden I agree totally. Its a great album. (their best) But that is my opinion, which i'm entitled to :>. Later --==Bleach.at.primenet.dot.com==-- --==Support Gibson, buy a Les Paul==-- (bleach@primenet.com) <-- for slow people On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, MR MICHAEL J RYAN wrote: > I am new to the group, but have been listening to Soundgarden since > '90. I have been listening to DOTU several times a day since it came > out and is to me their best album yet. The album puts you on a > rollercoaster ride filled with emotion and energy. The whole album > comes off with a great vibe and I love it. In my opinion, what makes > Soundgarden one of the best bands out there is that they continually > get better. Each album improves with new diversity and new ground > musically. I always thought it kind of sucked when a bands first few > albums are considered there best. It means the band has already > peaked and that it. With Soundgarden, there peak seems to be far > away. > ------------------------------ From: DKAASC@tevm2.nsc.com Subject: Like Suicide FROM: Kazam Ali Personal Computer/Network Specialist Computer and Network Support SUBJECT: Like Suicide In regards to: >From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) >Subject: Like Acoustic vs. Electric I tend to agree with you on your reasons for liking the electric version over the acoustic version. I too, love the solo part where ALL the band members are going off on their own.....I don't, however, like the electric version over the acoustic version mainly because I appreciate the naturalness(sp?) of the ring of the 12-string guitars. Also, after listening to Seasons, it's nice to hear Chris do a song without any electically enhanced effects.... One more thing.....I HOPE they perform Like Suicide(acoustic) in concert one of these days.....I've NEVER heard of the band doing a completely acoustic song before. My thoughts. Kazam p.s. Not putting down Like Suicide(electric), still rank it as THE best ending of all endings for an album "The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering." - Brandon Bruce Lee Feb. 1, 1965 - Mar. 31, 1993 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Hiro and Truly ok... the discussion has happened several times as to what happened to Hiro. Several explanantions included he left for family reasons, and/or went back to school...well, here it is--> Some things about the band are almost as unbelievable as the museum. First, Yamamoto is finishing his M.S. in Physical Chemistry at Western Washington University in Bellingham. And in Roth's spare time, he has been writing songs with his mentor Jim Carroll - their use is as yet unknown. Finally, and most astonishing, are Pickerel's unbelievable outlets. For example, the fact that as a kid he played drums at church ("My church rocked," he emphasizes). Or that this plainly-dressed guy collects wacky outfits ("We're gonna invent our own style, man," Roth kiddingly drawls). Or that he owns a record store, Rodeo Records, in Ellensburg, Washington, that he keeps running even while he's on the road. this was on the Truly page at http://www.eburg.com/~akehurst/truly/index.html jerm - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: leon bass Subject: Boot camp Does anyone else feel that Bootcamp sounds like it's going to be a long song and then only lasts for 3 or 4 minutes. When i hear it I think that it should be a 5 or 6 minuter. Leon ------------------------------ From: "R. Maney" Subject: favorite moments... on dotu im really starting to dig never named. i really like the ending where chris is saying "and i'll be playing in the sand just as long as i can" and then matt hits those 2 beats alone. btw, kim doesnt know what he's talking about when he disses seattle beer in that request interview. the statement that all of the beers are dessert beers "raspberry" and shit is on of the most ridiculous things i have ever heard. todd ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Who Weekly - Down on the Upside review #3432.22 I was flicking through the latest Australian edition of Who Weekly as I usually do, back to front. First thing that struck me was the Hitlist section, where listed is the top TV Programs, Films, Books and Albums for Australia. And sure enough, there at number one for the week ending June 2, Down on the Upside reached Number One in Australia with a bullet..."Great!" I thought. "Australians are finally getting some decent taste in music (despite George Michael's latest effort (Older) being at number two...blerk!!)" So then I head to the reviews section (Picks & Pans - SONG), and I'll show you what I was so disappointed to read: - ------------------------------------------------------------ (Australian) Who Weekly, June 10 1996. * Down on the Upside Soundgarden Apart from being Seattle residents, Soundgarden's membership in the grunge club was always a strange one. They pre-dated the movement by years, and they've always dwelled on the more metallic side of town, anyway. Now that no-one wants to be associated with the g-word, Soundgarden are scrabbling around all over the place. Down on the Upside is basically a weaker twin brother to 1994's sprawling Superunknown. There are brooding riff-fests to the left and lurching howlers to the right, with Chris Cornell yowling such lines as "eat the fruit and kiss the snake goodnight" and "standing with my enemies hung on my horns". Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this sound like regular metal? Meanwhile there's the one where they sound just like Pearl Jam ("Zero Chance") and another ("Blow Up the Outside World") that shamelessly repeats the psychedelics of their own previous hit,"Black Hole Sun". Fortunately, there is some respite, and it comes in the unlikely forms of "Ty Cobb" and "Never Named", speedy blur of songs where Soundgarden are more like a nervy garage band than pompous metalheads. This 'Garden needs some weeding. Grade: C+ - ------------------------------------------------------------- Ouch, that smarted! A weaker twin brother to Superunknown? Copying Pearl Jam? Copying themselves? A grade of C+?!?!? That means Who reckons the album is as poor as Leslie Nielson's latest film, Spy Hard!!!! Ah well, people have different tastes, I s'pose... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: "Thomas James Dinzeo" Subject: the review of DOTU in ATN What the hell is this guy talking about? Anti- Surfing song? Maybe this guy should actually read the lyrics to Soundgarden songs. This ignorant fool is a good example of what too much meth amphetamine can do to your brain. Nothing this guy says makes sense. Get over the Sabbath/Zepplin comparisons and come to the ultimate truth that Soundgarden are one of the few original/creative bands left out there. People who've never actually listened to an album more than once should not be writing reviews of it. This is irresponsible journalism at it's finest boys and girls. 'til later, Paul aka MOGW ------------------------------ From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) Subject: SG fans Vs. the world Hey All- First off, I know there's some albums that are strictly for only die hard fans of a certain group. Good example of this may be "Some old Bullshit" from the Beastie Boys. Some albums like these are so mediocre(sp?) that only die hard fans should only take interest. Other albums seem to be gems waiting to be discovered with repeat listenings. Its looking like 'Down on the Upside' is one of these. Why is it only SOundgarden fans can only seriously dig this album? Why is it only Soundgarden fans can appreciate the depthness of 'Down on the Upside'? I refuse to believe that we're a bunch of mindless capitalistic lemmings that will swarm to buy anything a band puts out(granted some do exist in the Soundgarden relm :) ). I'm just waiting for the year in review issues for all of these magazines to come out. By that time, 'Down on the Upside' will sink in further to their consciousness. Right now, the album is still too new for me. I need to have it in my tape deck constantly for a couple of weeks. Soundgarden is in their right relm though. Maybe this album will be only appreciated by the fan base, if that's the truth, I say let the truth speak for itself :) The pits will be alive this summer, and you can bet when material from 'Down on the Upside' and 'Louder Than Love' starts playing, SOundgarden fans needn't worry that any false pink boys will be in the pits, they will only be occupied by the true fan base! Laters Peace ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: go bulls... On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, Sean McCarthy wrote: > The pits will be alive this summer, and you can bet when material > from 'Down on the Upside' and 'Louder Than Love' starts playing, what material from dotu does everyone think will translate well to a live situation? soundgarden sometimes surprise me by playing songs that I wouldn't have thought would go down well (mind riot, for instance. but don't fear, I've changed my view on that) and then don't play songs that I thought would be great (limo wreck and fourth of july). I imagine that pretty noose and blow up the outside world will get many airings, but as for the other 14 songs, who would know? possibly rhinosaur? maybe overfloater or never the machine (tough one to play live)? what do you all think? what would you like to hear? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Quote When I loaded up the Web page this evening, I got this quote: "Remember everything is black or just burning sun" What song is this from? Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (ChrisL) Subject: Soundgarden AOL Interview Ok...can someone answer just two little guestions for me PLEASE...... I want to know what (time?) and what (room?) will the Soundgarden AOL interview take place. I know the date is: June 10th. Can I help it if Im getting old and can't remember if I read it in Somms or not......? You know what they say about us 30 year old moms who take care of rug rats all day to the point that they affect your mental capabilities! Ga Ga Goo Goo..... I'm hoping that someone out there will come to my aid before June 10th rolls around. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: go bulls...+my dream From: Ben Timberlake >what would you like to hear? that's easy. My life will be complete when I hear "mind riot" live. My friend and I were contemplating making a sign that said mind riot to hold up at lollapalooza in the hopes that the band would play it. On the other hand, I was thinking I could try to get to the front and yell it to the band. Which approach, if either, do you guys think would work best? Also, I had this weird dream last night. I think shroom's getting to me, because I dreamt that Eddie Vedder was my roommate (not that shroom necessarily likes eddie vedder, but she does seem to dream about band members a lot). I was trying to be cool to eddie and not bug him about how I liked his music. But I do remember asking him if he knew the soundgarden guys and if they were cool. Ah well, it was just a dream, but it was neat knowing someone famous that I admire, even if only for a night. -- Ben Ben Timberlake Anticipation Northwestern University of great things Medill School of Journalism keeps me alive. btimlake@nwu.edu -30- *Check out my dorm's web page!* http://www.stuaff.nwu.edu/crc/ "They say if you look hard / You'll find your way back home Born without a friend / And bound to die alone." -- Chris Cornell, "Zero Chance" ------------------------------ From: Russell Alan Fowler Subject: What is this, What is that???? On the topic of whether or not SG has "sold out"...selling out is actually a stereotype in and of itself. Let's not forget that alternative of yesterday has become the mainstream of today.... So, if you ask me "Has SG sold out?", my only reply is "No, we have..." rusty (cage) ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: Pretty Noose video review At 05:02 AM 6/3/96 -0500, MR MICHAEL J RYAN wrote: >This is a review of the Pretty Noose video from Entertainment Weekly. > > >It had to happen. Alterna-rock finally has a sexist video to call >its own. While the PC-pumped grunge revolution vowed to forever >banish frat house drooling from its clips, director Frank Kozik >brings it back in full leer. He sets part of this clip in a porn >palace, focusing on a writhing stripper sporting devil horns, no less. > If Kozick sold the band on irony, they got rooked. He could've >hawked this junk to Whitesnake. GRADE: C WHAT THE FUCK? Fuckin Entertainment Weekly...they know dick. I'm sure they'd prefer it if they just put vid clips of Hootie under the music instead of doing something INTERESTING like the PN vid is. I admit that I wasn't impressed by it at first, but everytime you see it, it gets better. And when were there naked women? Did I miss this part? DAMN! I ALWAYS MISS THE GOOD PARTS! Seriously, though, comparing to a Whitesnake video is harsh. Showing a devil girl for a couple times(symbolizing a PN, I think) and having Tawney Kittan stripping and doing splits on the hood of a car the whole damn video are two radically different things. That's all. I hate Entertainment Weekly anyway. Everytime I read their music columns, I get pissed. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: Who Weekly - Down on the Upside review #3432.22 At 06:41 AM 6/4/96 +1000, John Grieves wrote: There are brooding riff-fests to the left and lurching howlers >to the right, with Chris Cornell yowling such lines as "eat the fruit and >kiss the snake goodnight" and "standing with my enemies hung on my horns". >Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this sound like regular metal? Nope...keep guessin. >Meanwhile there's the one where they sound just like Pearl Jam ("Zero >Chance") HAHAHAHAH! What? That wasn't a joke? PJ never even crossed my mind hearing this one. >and another ("Blow Up the Outside World") that shamelessly repeats >the psychedelics of their own previous hit,"Black Hole Sun". Not really. Black hole Sun had that psychedlic feel, yes, but "BUtOW" Has this kind of "I'm as low as I can get" feel to it, to borrow some lyrics from JC. >Fortunately, there is some respite, and it comes in the unlikely forms of >"Ty Cobb" and "Never Named", speedy blur of songs where Soundgarden are more >like a nervy garage band than pompous metalheads. This 'Garden needs some >weeding. Imagine this: APPLICANT: "Hi, I know squat about music and I wouldn't want to put any thought or research into my column" BOSS: "Yer HIRED!" I heard on Q104.3 that DoTU was the #1 album...is this true? Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: That fine, fine line... here on the mailing list, some of us are worried about two things that seem to conflict with each other: 1)People jumping on the bandwagon upon hearing the new album 2)Reviewers and colleagues trashing the new album Well, what do we want here? It seems some of us have to find that middle ground, where you can say, "Yeah, I hope the new SG album is well received, but hopefully the people who buy it will fully appreciate it." As compared to Superunknown, I think there will be more people who buy this album as their first or second SG album and love it to death. Maybe that's what they were (indirectly) trying to do by making the album more experimental and noisier. Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: "Thomas D. Ozbirn" Subject: RE: Everclear - ---------- From: DeeDee.Bradshaw[SMTP:dbradsh@usa.pipeline.com] Sent: Sunday, June 02, 1996 11:19 AM To: SOMMS@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Everclear I have that Everclear CD...personally I think they are too hyper...their songs seem to explode off at you right from the begining...in general it is an ok CD but nothing to get excited about...unless they drastically improve I dont see them staying around for long... DeeDee <*> please read the disclaimer thingy, NOTHING BUT SOUNDGARDEN I do not want to hear about your silly little bands, stop or else action will be taken ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Quote From: seth > When I loaded up the Web page this evening, I got this quote: > "Remember everything is black or just burning sun" > What song is this from? "Tighter & Tighter." seth ------------------------------ Subject: Re: go bulls... From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) OK all you Seattlites any wagers??? Where's Mr. Thayil when you're lookin to take someone's money??? And in regard to the post about DOTU being Soundgarden's Abbey Road. Let's not think that way. AB was the Beatles last studio album!!! Just for fun we could start a rumor Chris is dead!! He's barefooted on the cover isn't he?? That's why Boot Camp ends so abruptly!!! Oh my!! I heard a thud must of been all those Chris worshippers out there passing out!! :-) toni ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Review of "Pretty Noose" Video Here's a really shitty interview of the video for "Pretty Noose", from this week's Entertainment Weekly, June 7, 1996 "It had to happen. Alterna-rock finally has a sexist video to call its own. While the PC-pumped grunge revolution vowed to forever banish frat house drooling from its clips, director Frank Kozik brings it back in full leer. He sets part of this clip in a porn palace, focusing on a writhing stripper sporting devil horns, no less. If Kozick [sic] sold the band on irony, they got rooked. He could've hawked this junk to Whitesnake." Grade: C First, they should learn to fucking spell Mr. Kozik's name properly. Also, to compare Soundgarden to Whitesnake is just, well, I'm so pissed I can't even say "FUCK!" enough times! In the same column, the same reviewer reviewed "Mother Mother" by Tracy Bonham. He gave that an A!! Give me a fucking break; that whole video is just her on a fucking TV set. I could probably make a better video by myself. God, these reviewers really piss me off. BTW, if there's any Metallica fans out there, in the same magazine, the review of the new CD "Load" has this to say: "The latest Soundgarden and Smashing Pumpkins albums are more bristling and savage than 'Load'." Pissed and trying to pay no attention, Vasant ****************************************************************************** The Refuge of the Damned http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html Lots of music, photos, links, and more! vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: go bulls... On Jun 3, 11:00pm, Tonerkin wrote: > Subject: Re: go bulls... > OK all you Seattlites any wagers??? Where's Mr. Thayil when you're > lookin to take someone's money??? > And in regard to the post about DOTU being Soundgarden's Abbey Road. > Let's not think that way. AB was the Beatles last studio album!!! Just > for fun we could start a rumor Chris is dead!! He's barefooted on the > cover isn't he?? That's why Boot Camp ends so abruptly!!! Oh my!! I > heard a thud must of been all those Chris worshippers out there passing > out!! :-) toni > yeah, then we can give them a subtle hint about it in the AOL interview and see if there are any lurkers on here Lets see if Chris mentions it. :) and just like the beattles, the new Chris is a look-alike... and Soundgarden could start giving hints about Chris being dead in their music too :) - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: who (the hell wrote this) weekly review... On Tue, 4 Jun 1996, John Grieves wrote: > I was flicking through the latest Australian edition of Who Weekly as I > usually do, back to front. First thing that struck me was the Hitlist > Down on the Upside is basically a weaker twin brother to 1994's sprawling > Superunknown. There are brooding riff-fests to the left and lurching howlers > to the right, with Chris Cornell yowling such lines as "eat the fruit and > kiss the snake goodnight" and "standing with my enemies hung on my horns". > Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't this sound like regular metal? I imagine this is their best attempt at panning dotu. I myself would have been very suspicious of any article related to soundgarden contained within the trashy pages of who weekly (a tabloid with colour photos). chris cornell howling? I'm sure that which ever genius it was who decided to write that prefers the more classy sounds of michael bolton and other such hair/cabaret acts. if he/she had read further than track 2 in the liner, they would have realised that there are actually more (and better/not out of context) lyrics on the album. > Meanwhile there's the one where they sound just like Pearl Jam ("Zero > Chance") and another ("Blow Up the Outside World") that shamelessly repeats > the psychedelics of their own previous hit,"Black Hole Sun". > like a nervy garage band than pompous metalheads. This 'Garden needs some > weeding. and this reviewer needs his/her head examined. zero chance sounds like pearl jam? I'd like to see jack irons try and drum with the same subtlety (eleven toes equals boring drumming). and comparing blow up to bhs is laughable at best. bhs was probably the only single the reviewer bought, and along with his/her pearl jam albums, the comparison was obvious. does who weekly have an email address jackhammer? onto more pleasant matters (but not sg related), you would be doing yourself a favour if you go out and buy 1. _dust_, the new screaming trees album; and 2. the alice in chains _unplugged_ cd. I've heard great things about both albums (admittedly, from the respective homepages), but sweet oblivion by the trees was fantastic, and the unplugged performance by aic is supposed to be one of the best ever (sweet relief after that (imho) last dodgy effort). ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: erin@planet.eon.net Subject: Jesus Christ Pose single Thanks to the people who wrote to me to tell me what somms were.. I feel really stupid because I actually read about them but didn't make the connection between the abbreviation and the word.. The old brain is sometimes a little slow. Anyway, now that I'm enlightened: I have two of the songs off of somms (well, at least one place on the internet said they were songs off of somms) that I got on the Jesus Christ Pose (songs: Jesus Christ Pose, Stray Cat Blues, Into the Void (sealth), and Somewhere) single.. I paid $2 for it. If anyone who's on this mailing list lives near Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, I'd suggest going to Sonix (on Whyte Ave). They have lots of (used) rare stuff for pretty cheap.. Also, I was wondering.. Are Ultramega OK and the Flower EP worth the money? They're pretty expensive. Erin ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: DOTU reviews and STuFF As much as i think that your rambling and constant lusting after Chris is all in good fun (hey even Cleo thinks Chris is sexy , or is it Cosmo), you have have crossed the line by criticising Metallica. Blasphemer!!! That guy that looks like Chris is Kirk Hammett who is an excellent guitarist and very cool, the video rocks and the makeup is a bit of fun. I mean they hosted a local video show and played Cherry Pie by warrant, they have a sense of humour. Their latest album "Load" is great as good as DOTU. So listen to ...And Justice for All the greatest album of all time and pray for forgiveness from the gods of music for badmouthing Metallica. HAMMER OF JUSTICE CRASHES YOU !!!! PS Don't take this too seriously. BTW the sexiest people in rock are Nitocris hey Carolyn:) Currently playing on the CD: Down on the Upside LOAD - Metallica ..And Justice for all- Metallica Tool - Opiate Feedback (compilation) Introducing Bass (hey I'm Learning) "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: Pretty Noose in the origin, Aust members Thats nothing watching i think it was airtime or some basketball show the add breaks were preceded by spoonman, Superunkown, Fell on Black Days :) On Mon, 3 Jun 1996, DEFsonic wrote: > Hey ya, > > Everyone in Aust. watch the footy? Well all of QLD and NSW I guess. Anyway > anyone catch the half-time break? As it came back into the footy, the nice > sounds of pretty noose came streaming out of the TV :) COOL :) Was rather > suprised, that it got picked up so quick on TV. I think someone in TV land > is a SG freak, cause how many shows use the music. I think we had this > descusion earlier (Sports tonight uses them heaps) sounded good watching > the slowmo of the big hits. Oh well that's all for today, cause QLD lost and > well the ref needs some help :) > > seeya > Lee > > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC > > E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au > Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! > CD I'm listening to this week: > "Down on the Upside" by Soundgarden > > "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 145] ****************************************