From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 2 Jun 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 02 Jun 1996 02:39:58 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 2 Jun 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: boot camp pn Damn it! Soundgarden and Metallica maybe this one ground kill end w/ digipacks Re: end w/ digipacks Re: end w/ digipacks Re: Soundgarden and Metallica SG picture in SunTimes Re: IRC Re: IRC - LONG! i need a somms Re: IRC - LONG! Supermotorfinger... Re: somms for $20.00? Re: somms for $20.00? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Brian Clark Subject: boot camp Hey everyone... I know others have mentioned this subject, but I was listening to the new album last night, (as usual) and after "boot camp's" dramatic and ubrupt ending, I just sat there and felt this intense feeling of utter aloneness... like I was the only person left in the world, after the music was gone.... That song is so great, but yes I wish it was longer. On the other hand, how could you change a song which can invoke that kind of emotional response? Isn't that what good art is about? Anyway, just some thoughts foer the hell of it... Later.....Brian - -- Nothin' but the best for the golden boy.... ------------------------------ From: cs95ajs@brunel.ac.uk Subject: pn Last week, my uni. rock society (I'm president for next year!) held a rock/indie night in the SU night club and when they played pn, I was of couse bouncing all over the place (I'm well known for being the society sg freak!) But my point is that many of the people who were around me were extremely impressed with the song, esp. Chris' vocals which they felt were amazing (as if we don't all know that) I think that pn was an excellent choice for a first single because it showcases much of what sg do best - chris' voice, the lilting, powerful riffs, etc. Sorry everyone - I occasionally have this need to babble! Andy ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Damn it! Sommsters, Why are some of you calling Su a pop album? Seriously I know Bhs was a huge hit, fobd and spoonman, got some radio play but they weren't huge hits. I think that in the case of sg if you hear them on the radio twice in one week, it's like it's being overplayed because where not used to hearing it. The only reason su was popular was because of the success of one song out of 15 bhs, plus the fan base they built up from bmf, remember the album debuted at #1 thats the people who fell in love with bmf. I used to watch MTV and listen to the radio all the time when bmf came out and I never heard a single song from it. I heard bmf right before su came out because a friend had it, if su was a supposed pop album, it would have been rusty cage and outshined the album, since those were there most successfull singles to date. Bhs is such a change from traditional sg at the time that who in gods name(except god of course) would have known it would have been popular. I think people are confusing music that people see beauty in and just like, from catchy pop songs that were designed to stay in your head and just grow on you like mold because you hear them so much, and that you forget about in few weeks from great music. When I first heard the foo-fighters big me, it just was so catchy I'm tapping my foot to it, and when it was overplayed I would find myself watching the video for it, despite the fact that I don't like the ffrs or the beattles and that is the most beattle sounding song this side of atlantic ever written. But hey know that it's not being played I really could care less, however even when bhs was being played to death I wanted to hear it more so I bought the album, and I still love that song. That is the differrence between pop and good music. Pop is fed to you and you just swallow and when it's no longer fed to you, you don't hunger for it. Good music never leaves you satisfied and keeps you hungering for more. So lets stop calling pop things that a large number of people like, it's only pop if it's sole purpose is to sell records. Hey and another thing why the fuck is that everytime a band writes a rock song with a melody it's copying the beattles? Have these people ever heard of Jimi Hendrix? Songs like "Angel", "The wind Cries Mary" , "Castles Made Of Sand" need I go on? Just about any blues song, which the beattles were copying btw, the isley brothers tunes, who the beattles toured with and covered there songs and made money of them. There the greatest contrived pop band ever, John did write some decent lyrics in the late seventies and they had that whole psychadelic stage, but really they were just the Hootie of times past, seriously songs like bunghole bill, yellow submarine, hold your hand, Jesus Christ if Hootie is around for 10 more years my kids are going to hearing that they were some of the greatest songwriters of all time. Arrgh! Okay I'll shut up know. Clown P.S. If anyone wants to flame remember this "I pay no attention because I'm hard headed so fuck you all" ------------------------------ From: "Mailman" Subject: Soundgarden and Metallica I had been wondering why Metallica did not want to come to big cities with Lolla for a long time. Then the other day my friend came up to me and said, "I know why Lolla isn't comming to big cities...because after Lolla is done, they are going to come back and do a bunch of arenas." I could not belive him, but I was wondering if anyone else had heard that? - -Mailman ------------------------------ From: "Thomas D. Ozbirn" Subject: maybe this one I hope this one will actually work, sorry if I've bothered anyone w/ = pointless messages sent to the wrong place. =20 I'd like to know if anyone out there owns or is familiar w/ the crybaby = 535's that SG endorses. I've never heard one, and wondered if someone = could possibly point out some songs or something w/ the different = tonalities. I read a bunch of places where thayil claims to have used = colorsounds, anybody have any clue what I'm on about?? ------------------------------ From: "Thomas D. Ozbirn" Subject: ground kill anyone figured out all of the missing lyrics on Down on the Upside? - infinite ------------------------------ From: "Thomas D. Ozbirn" Subject: end w/ digipacks I'd like to know just who believes that the digipacks are special, from = what i've seen the jewel cases (i've never heard them called that) might = be limited cause i haven't seen a damn one....=20 Anybody get the neat little sticker in the mail for down on the = upside?? I don't know why i got it, cause i'm only in AiC fan club.... = hmmmm..... they seem to be closely related though... ------------------------------ Subject: Re: end w/ digipacks From: seth > Anybody get the neat little sticker in the mail for down on the = > upside?? I don't know why i got it, cause i'm only in AiC fan club.... = > hmmmm..... they seem to be closely related though... AIC and SG are both managed by Silver Management, so yes, they're pretty closely related, and the fan club material has been known to overlap. seth ------------------------------ Subject: Re: end w/ digipacks From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Anybody get the neat little sticker in the mail for down on the upside?? I don't know why i got it, cause i'm only in AiC fan club.... hmmmm..... they seem to be closely related though... Yes I got the post card in the mail, but......someone in the postal system took my neat little sticker. Could there be a fan of SG in the U.S. Postal Service and if there is could "Mailman" be his favorite song??? Jamie So someone, what was the sticker like?????? ------------------------------ From: B Rogers Subject: Re: Soundgarden and Metallica I have also heard this rumor, though I doubt the validity of it VERY much. Thanks. B Rogers On Sat, 1 Jun 1996, Mailman wrote: > I had been wondering why Metallica did not want to come to big cities with Lolla > for a long time. Then the other day my friend came up to me and said, "I know > why Lolla isn't comming to big cities...because after Lolla is done, they are > going to come back and do a bunch of arenas." I could not belive him, but I was > wondering if anyone else had heard that? > > -Mailman > > ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: SG picture in SunTimes There was a little blurb in the Chicago Sun-Times Friday about Lollapalooza tickets going on sale and guess who's picture was there. They had a good sized picture of Soundgarden. What I couldn't understand is if Metallica is headlining, why did they use a picture of Soundgarden? Is Soundgarden a bigger draw in this area or did they just not have a picture of Metallica in their archives. Anyway, I thought it was neat that our boys out ranked Metallica on this one. Kathie ------------------------------ From: urbano Subject: Re: IRC >The IRC channel is called #SOUNDGARDEN (according to their i-music page) ouch... that went straight into my heart... :) urbano ------------------------------ Subject: Re: IRC - LONG! From: seth > >The IRC channel is called #SOUNDGARDEN (according to their i-music page) > > ouch... that went straight into my heart... :) The *original* IRC channel for Soundgarden fans -- and specifically, members of this mailing list -- is #somms, which you can access on any Undernet server. Let's use it. Attached is the official list of Undernet servers that you can use (and more info is available at http://www.undernet.org). For each server name listed, append ".undernet.org" onto it and that's the full name (for example, "ann-arbor.mi.us" should really be "ann-arbor.mi.us.undernet.org"). 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At 05:44 PM 1/06/96 EDT, you wrote: > >> >The IRC channel is called #SOUNDGARDEN (according to their i-music page) >> >> ouch... that went straight into my heart... :) > >The *original* IRC channel for Soundgarden fans -- and specifically, >members of this mailing list -- is #somms, which you can access on any >Undernet server. Let's use it. I'm using it now is someone's bored.. Current status: 1 person in #somms (me) 1 person in #soundgarden urbano ------------------------------ From: Outshined@aol.com Subject: Supermotorfinger... >> From: Greg Bensimon >> Subject: BMF & SU Together >> A couple of months back, I was walking through Tower Records and found a BMF >> and Superunknown packaged together in some "special" release. Has anyone >> else seen this? Was it some sort of limited release? Seeing as I already >> had both albums and there didn't seem to be anything else of unique value, I >> didn't drop the $50+ for it. Maybe I should go back and try to find it... If you already have BMF and SU, then it'll be pretty useless to you... however, the Superunknown CD included in the box is the non-US release, so it includes "She Likes Surprises" as track 16... Outshined ------------------------------ From: Chris Mansfield Subject: Re: somms for $20.00? >> somms was there in a back room, for twenty bucks. hee! > >I'm sorry but did you really buy somms for 20.00 bucks!! I got mine used >(except it was never used ) for count' em 7 bucks! I know there are others >on the list who have gotten them for less....... if so, congrats to everyone here who obtained it without paying through the nose for it. i've found it at a couple of places before but they were always trying to financially rape people for them. one local store (and this is SG's hometown, mind you) has three copies. $80 each. never mind that i still don't have SOMMS but WHO DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE?!?! record stores are getting as bad as scalpers. ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: somms for $20.00? fuck record stores here, they aren't even cool nough to hve them. fuck 'em. but i need one, does anyone hsve one? ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 143] ****************************************