From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 1 Jun 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 01 Jun 1996 03:56:20 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 1 Jun 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: You make me sick, I make stupiddities Radio Friendly Soundgarden somms for $ 20.00 ? SG and Danzig Home Alive Re: pretty noose Word Search Re: DOTU Oz promo vid query Continuity Re: Digipaks and Jewel Cases . . . Drum out/in tro Re: pretty noose Re: Word Search Web page Re: Comments re:cop killer at Lolla '92 Re: SuperUnknown outranks DOTU? True feelings greatest moments & aol Re: Great Moments in SG IRC can somebody help? BMF & SU Together Lolla! (AND A SMALL MESSAGE TO URB@NO) Online interview... PUCK of the RW III and SG Posters Re: DOTU Oz promo vid query wow.. Chicago Sun-Times article on SG (long) just a speck on the ground... I'm baaack!! Re: BMF & SU Together Re: somms for $ 20.00 ? Re: IRC Matt on vocals RE: Great Moments in SG ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: You make me sick, I make stupiddities Well, first of all... I HAVE DOTU AT LAST! I was recording it, when APPLEBITE stars, believe me I am not esoteric or some kind of witch...but... Imagine this... a candle, inside of a glass, I am lay down on my bed, I have my candle in my hand, the fan's air makes the flame dance, while you're hear LOOSLEY OR TIGHTLY, EVERYTHING FITS... I'm watching the flame, now is turning color blue...GROW AND DECAY, GROW AND DECAY...it extinguished now...IT'S ONLY FOREVER. I don't need any kind of drugs to bring peace to my mind,God SOUNDGARDEN is everything I really want. LOve Is LIKE suiCiDE ROBIN ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Radio Friendly Soundgarden Keidra Chaney I've talked > to a few people I know that are "casual listeners" of Soundgarden. Quite a > few of the have complained that PN is too "ugly and confusing"(actual > quote) of a song to be a first single and I've talked to a couple of people > who are now turned off from buying DOTU because of the song. I've argued to > them that people expecting to hear "Black Hole Sun:The Album" will > be suprised by DOTU, but anyone familiar with Soundgarden's past work > wouldn't be too thrown off by PN. I think it's a great song, but perhaps > my friends have a point. Maybe a more "radio friendly" song like "Burden in > My Hand" or even " Blow up the outside World" would have been a better > choice for a first single. Any Comments? I think if they think PN is "ugly and confusing" that they're going to have a hard time getting into Soundgarden as a whole. PN is nothing compared to Beyond the Wheel or Slaves and Bulldozers to just name two classics. SG are notorious for ambiguous lyrics and more unconventional imagery and tunings. My suggestion is, don't try to force people to like something they obviously don't have a taste for. I know its hard when you're enthusiastic about something other people just don't seem to understand. I struggled with that for years before I found this list. Believe me, you can't convert some people. And don't ever make excuses for Soundgarden. Everyone doesn't have to like them - they don't compromise why should you. Why would you want people to think SG is "radio friendly" anyway? My favorite songs are almost always the least radio friendly and I would sure miss that if SG were to sell out. Just my thoughts - I'm feeling a little bitchy tonight. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Gardena@aol.com Subject: somms for $ 20.00 ? > somms was there in a back room, for twenty bucks. hee! I'm sorry but did you really buy somms for 20.00 bucks!! I got mine used ( except it was never used ) for count' em 7 bucks! I know there are others on the list who have gotten them for less.......I'm not flaming you for buying it... really! I am very glad you own it!welcome to the somms club ( or whatever it is!) Whiteout! Dena :)~ ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: SG and Danzig > While looking at my copy of Loudest Love's Japanese Lyrics (thanks to > Outshined@aol.com!!!), > > It says '90 (string of japanese characters) then DANZIG. This seems to > be a band biography. Any takers as to DANZIG's importance? Did they > tour with them? I can't remember. > > Later, > Mayor McCheese Yeah, I saw them in 90 when they toured with Danzig and several thrash metal bands. They really didn't seem to fit in and the crowd, at least where I saw them, didn't appreciate them (lots of people with dyed black hair and black makeup). I thought SG kicked ass, though. It was the first time I saw them live and I was willing to suffer through anything. We didn't stay for Danzig, though. Kathie ------------------------------ From: urbano Subject: Home Alive been a while since I last posted, but why spit my ignorance out if I have nothing to say??? =============================================== and the post is: Yesterday when I bought my copy of DOTU (which BTW rocks!) I saw the Home alive compilation... i didn't even dare to grab it because when I saw that it had a price tag of $200mex (about us$26.00) I feared to break it or something. I guess this is too high for it isn't it? Especially when it is supposed to be a benefit album. Does anybody advice me to buy it? I guess not... -urbano ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: pretty noose I don't know if I agree that Pretty Noose is the "cleanest" song SG has ever done, but I do agree that it probably was the best song to debut on the radio. Granted, it's not as radio friendly as BUTOW, but PN contains many of the elements that uniquely identify Soundgarden. I mean, you've got Kim's unusual guitar tunings, the odd breaks, and Chris sings with more than enough rage to disturb the masses. Yeah, PN may be somewhat contrived, but A&M probably wouldn't be thrilled if SG wrote a song that only appealed to the members of SOMMS and their closest friends. (No offense Seth, 500 members is kick-ass for a mailing list. But A&M is probably looking for numbers more like 500,000+) Oh well, my $0.02... Greg On Thu, 30 May 1996, DeeDee.Bradshaw wrote: > ok I am probably about to get majorly flamed for this comment...but here > goes anyway...in regards to whether or not "pretty noose" was the best > choice for a single...well what better use for that song than to appeal to > the masses...it is the cleanest song i have ever heard SG do...totally > lacks the raw edge that i love in SG and quite frankly i was disappointed > in them when i heard the song...it sounds like they intentionally produced > a song the would appeal to the radio listening world... ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Word Search Well, I sat down last night and played the word search on Seth's page. Seth, you are Java Man! What I'm wondering about though is all of the "bonus words" in the game. I found God last night... as well as Bono, HotMudKey, and a couple of others. Random letters or inside joke? I must really have nothing better to do... Greg ------------------------------ From: redfive@ozonline.com.au (Hando) Subject: Re: DOTU Oz promo vid query Greg Dunbar writes, >Hando, where's this video? Where abouts in Melbourne is it and are >there any left, can you copy it blah blah blah etc. Please write so I >might be able to get my fix. Sorry it took so long to reply to this, Greg, I haven't read my digests since Tuesday. The video is available at Gaslight Music in Bourke St, Melbourne with the purchase of DOTU.By all rights it should still be available. They also do mail order if you can't get to Melbourne. Otherwise drop me a line and we'll chat about doing a copy for ya. Oh yeah, how's Cyberlink treating ya?? - say hi to Ballarat ( my old home town ) for me!!! By the way sommsters, I don't have UMO.K. or LTL either - am I supposed to feel less of a person because of it?? Burden In My Hand rips!!! Hando redfive@ozonline.com.au ------------------------------ From: DKAASC@tevm2.nsc.com Subject: Continuity FROM: Kazam Ali Personal Computer/Network Specialist Computer and Network Support SUBJECT: Continuity Hey all, Does anyone else notice the continuity of certain types of songs, especially on the last three albums..?.Face Pollution, Kickstand, Ty Cobb...etc, etc... The only problem I have with the new one is that I don't see a song as hard-hitting as Slaves and Bulldozers or Limo Wreck. Sure, BUTOW and Tighter and Tighter are pretty strong, but Chris ain't doing his usual screaming! Are we gonna see any more Slaves and Bull. type songs or Limo W.'s anymore? As for the Great moments in SG...(Great thread idea!) 1. Let Me Drown....that muffled guitar part when he sings,"heal my wound without a trace...." 2. Slaves and Bulldozers.....Chris hitting the high note in the second "Bleed your heart out" chorus...gives me goosebumps every time! 3. Chris' low muttering intro to Like Suicide 4. Limo Wreck....very last line that Chris screams out 5. TDITTL.....the emotional "should have stayed in bed!" part....powerful. 6. The catchy riffs to Fresh Tendrils and Rhinosaur---Go MATT! 7. Somewhere....THE ultimate love song. 8. Live version of SWMGEC....solo Chris on "stop your trying to bruise my mind" 9. Riff to "Dusty" 10. Ty Cobb "hard-headed..FUCK YOU ALL!" That's all!(that I can remember) Kazam "The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering." - Brandon Bruce Lee Feb. 1, 1965 - Mar. 31, 1993 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ From: Bleach Subject: Re: Digipaks and Jewel Cases . . . Yeah, the digipak is cool. Something different. And it is a hell of a lot easier to fool with than a normal jewel case. And that Alice In Chains album, well, i would rate that #3... SAP #2, DIRT #1... (all their albums are good though) --==Bleach.at.primenet.com==-- --==Support Gibson, buy a Les Paul==-- (bleach@primenet.com) <-- for slow people On Fri, 31 May 1996 Outshined@aol.com wrote: > >> Did anyone do what I did? > > >> I took the CD and the Book out of the digipak, put the digipak up as a > >> nifty picture, then put the CD in a regular case with the book and used > >> my out artwork for the cd case. My roommates think I've become anal > >> about Soundgarden . . . > > >> Mayor McCheese > >> XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX >> > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > >> "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite > > I was tempted to do this... DOTU is the only digipak i have, so it was kinda > annoying having only one case that was different... but for some reason I > really like the digipak, so I kept it... > one CD I did chance was the new Alice In Chains... it came in that > flourescent > yellow jewel case, so I swapped it into a standard clear case... that neon > glow > got annoying real quick!! :) > ------------------------------ Subject: Drum out/in tro From: Ben Timberlake I was noticing a similarity between superunknown and DOTU yesterday. At the end of Head Down, there's that little sort of drum melee. To me, it always meant the advent of the spacey guitar of Black Hole Sun (which I maintain is a fantastic song). Likewise, on DOTU, there's sort of a similar little drum thing that ends No Attention leading perfectly into the similar Switch Opens. My friend Ryan thinks this is a subconcious act on the band's part. I'm still not sure. Even if it is a formula they've discovered, I think it works brilliantly. Life's all about anticipation and they induce it masterfully. -- Ben Ben Timberlake Anticipation Northwestern University of great things Medill School of Journalism keeps me alive. btimlake@nwu.edu -30- *Check out my dorm's web page!* http://www.stuaff.nwu.edu/crc/ "They say if you look hard / You'll find your way back home Born without a friend / And bound to die alone." -- Chris Cornell, "Zero Chance" ------------------------------ Subject: Re: pretty noose From: seth > (No > offense Seth, 500 members is kick-ass for a mailing list. But A&M is > probably looking for numbers more like 500,000+) Well, let's see. If there are 500 people now, and we average about 40 posts per day, that would mean that a 500,000-person list would generate 40,000 posts per day. I don't think I would want to compile the digest every day. :) seth ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Word Search From: seth > Well, I sat down last night and played the word search on Seth's page. > Seth, you are Java Man! What I'm wondering about though is all of the > "bonus words" in the game. I found God last night... as well as Bono, > HotMudKey, and a couple of others. Random letters or inside joke? I > must really have nothing better to do... Credit where credit is due: I didn't write the wordsearch applet (I think there's a link to its origin somewhere on the page), I just worked with the parameters to make it Soundgarden-related. I think the extra words are just random letters... I'm glad you enjoyed it, though...it's pretty addicting. seth ------------------------------ From: Grant Asher Subject: Web page Hey seth, I checked out the web page the other day at the member directory. How come your photo isn't there? Are you shy? Are you actually an alias being used by susan silver to keep track of shroom's plans for chris's sexy body? Are you an undercover CIA operative broadcasting coded messages via a sg list? The longer your photo is absent, the more conspiracy theories I'll dream up. Grant Asher ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Comments From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > has anyone heard from Jamesetta Lately? I haven't heard from her > since her response to my little sg vinyl problem (which has since been > rectified, thanks for the support) anyway is she still emersed in the > soundgarden? Hmm... a sg overdose not possible, anyway I'm out of > Clown Almost right Clown.. I have been immersed in painting my apartment, selling the house in PA and work, work, work. But on an up note - I have been wearing out my DOTU tape on the drives between Washington and PA. I'm at the point now that when I wake in the morning "PN" or "Overfloater" is running through my head. I have one question... When I started reading my mail (over 300 now), I kept seeing talk about jewel case/digipaks - people keep asking about the value, number and such - but I see no answers. Seth, Steven help... Someone said the digipak was 60,000 only - hell most of them must be in PA (Pennsylvania to you good people out side of the USA). Ever store I walked into had dozens of them. And I haven't see a jewel case yet... I have a digipak which is fine, I tend to do major damage to jewel cases. Besides the digipak are like small album covers - since DOTU is so "70est" it should be in a cardboard cover (love vinyl). Jamie BTW: The Tragically Hip's new CD "Trouble at the Henhouse" is also out on digipak. ------------------------------ From: Brian Clark Subject: re:cop killer at Lolla '92 I've never seen any group of individuals more nervous than those Fort Bend , Texas cops then when CC launched into "cop killer"..... It was one of the most memorable moments in my concert going experience... . . . Later....Brian - --- Sleep tight for me, I'm gone.... "Thomas James Dinzeo" wrote: > > Hello all, > > I saw Soundgarden at Lollapalooza ( I think it was '92, feel free to > correct me if I'm wrong), although I had heard their music before and was a > fan, I didn't really get into them until that show. During the performance > Chris and the band performed Body Count's "Cop Killer". After the song > Chris took Polaroids of the entire audience flicking off the police who > where standing outside the fence watching. Harriet Island (Minneapolis) > filled with the sound of people yelling and applauding. Chris then took a > Polaroid of the audience giving him the bird (What great self-esteem). I > have yet to see another band move or connect with an audience like that. > Oh well, that's my sg memory. Did anyone else see Lollapalooza that year? > Was that something they did every show, or just ours? I'll always remember > that show. >I was at Lolla '92 too at The World in Tinley Park, Illinois and SG >did Cop Killer, which I thought was so cool, but unfortunately it >seemed lost on the crowd that was too busy trampling the lawn into a >muddy mosh pit. I don't remember Chris taking any pictures though. >Kathie ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SuperUnknown outranks DOTU? From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > I'm pretty surprised (I don't suppose I should be, though) that so > many people think SuperUnknown is a better album than DOTU No, Kathie, I agree with you that DOTU is a far better record than SuperUnknown. SU was (and still is) a great record, but "IMHO" it was very commercial record. DOTU is music for the sole purpose of music. I don't feel SG wants to please anyone but themselves on this record. There are so many influences from bands that influences SG, that it just seems they wanted to do the stuff they liked. It's certainly the music I like and did like. Rhinosaur takes me back to a day long gone. Zero Chance, Tighter & Tighter and Dusty are pure rock'n'roll. But I must say "Overfloater" has become my number one pick on this record. I love it's mood, I love the control in Chris's voice and I love the way it builds. From the first slow, deep, and soulful "I wanna make it right", to the last "I'm overfloating alone" the band takes you on a ride you just don't want to come off of.. > If this makes sense to anyone let me know. Also, does anyone have any > idea what Overfloater is about? I love the song, but don't have a clue > what he's trying to say. > Kathie We agree again Kathie, as I said before "overfloater" is my favorite on this record. What's it about is right, I feel most people would say drugs "Feel medicine heal the lines of age", "I'm here and now I'm gone", or "Hold the potion up". But he could be talking about hiding from life "Close the door and pull the shades" or "Remember to forget and then rename your shame". What ever he is talking about you know it's not good and he is on this journey alone. I just know I love the sound of Chris's voice on this cut - he has control and uses it correctly... Jamie ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: True feelings > Subject: Happy or sad?/Meaning of Art I loved your post and I agree with you 100%. Thats why I get pissed when we get into flame wars because people can't just let other people say what they want. Its one thing to disagree with somebody, but its entirely different to discount their feeling as being stupid or wrong. Of course the person on the receiving end needs to be less sensitive too I guess. I've developed a thick skin over the few months I've been posting to the list and to various newsgroups. I think it took alot of thought and guts to post your feelings. I would much rather someone be bitchy and honest than cheerful and fake. Thanks for a thought-provoking post. Kathie ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: greatest moments & aol my greatest moments for me are more combined with "first times" ;-) - --like the first time i heard the opening to "rusty cage" and i sat up and said, "what IS this?!!!" - --or the first time i saw "singles" and i totally forgot or even didn't know that sg were in it and i threw an entire bucket of popcorn all over my friend sharon when they flashed to the band onstage different moments, different times... i still love the beginning of "JCP"... gets me every time. it's not one of chris' more outstanding vocal moments, but it's how all the instruments mesh and then go quiet and then there's chris.... and shroomy, i've got an aol account i use rarely.. send me the details, i'll be there. :-) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: Great Moments in SG Great moments in Sg's music: 1)matt's roll before 2nd verse of FoBd 2)Kim's bluesy riff during the 2nd verse of the FoBD live version 3)Opening drums in "Little Joe" 4)Opening to "rusty cage" in the digging the garden bootleg 5)KYLE PETTY SON OF RICHARD! 6)This has been said before but: the part in "mailman" where kim does that weird ass thing then slides into the chorus, with Chris screaming overtop of it 7)Banjo(?) in 2nd verse of Ty Cobb 8)Beginning of "Gun" 9)The part after "Big Dumb Sex" in the Digging the Garden boot where Chris is saying "Fuck" and the crowd responds with "YOU!" 10)Any song written by Matt/any lyrics written by Kim THANK YOU CHICAGO! GOODNIGHT! Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: IRC What is the address for the IRC chat channel? Gregg ____________________________________ | | HEAVY ROTATION-- | http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | "Down on the Upside" | melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net | --Soundgarden |____________________________________| "Another motherfucker down the drain" --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@CompuServe.COM> Subject: can somebody help? Sommsters, I was going to go and spoil myself with someting new, and then I thought, crap which one do I get????? So, I need your help. Which one is better: Motorvision or Louder Than Live? And also, WHERE THE HELL CAN I FIND SOMMS!!!!!!!!!!!! My boyfriend's birthday is coming up, and that's all he's been asking for, and dammit, I can't find it *anywhere*!!!!!! So if anyone out there can be of any assistance in my fruitless search, please let me know. THANK YOU! Mop ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: BMF & SU Together A couple of months back, I was walking through Tower Records and found a BMF and Superunknown packaged together in some "special" release. Has anyone else seen this? Was it some sort of limited release? Seeing as I already had both albums and there didn't seem to be anything else of unique value, I didn't drop the $50+ for it. Maybe I should go back and try to find it... Greg ------------------------------ From: "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" Subject: Lolla! (AND A SMALL MESSAGE TO URB@NO) Hey guys, this may be a bit old but for those of you on the "other side of the pond" here are some dates for lolla. I got them from a Metallica page so they may be Metallica concerts. Who knows??? Well, and goodbye to you all! I'm out of the list for the rest of the summer. (Yee-hah!!!)(Well, so much for finishing all the tabs due on my page!) I looked very hard(w/my good eye closed) and found my way back home. I'm going back home to Mexico City to be the bastard bum that my mom loves soooo much! =-) Well, all of you. Thank you for making my evenings happy by reading all those wacky posts from some of you(ahem...Nothingcornellman...ahem...Shroom...etc.)and I guess I'll see ya all in the fall! And if you got any new tabs don't hesitate in sending them over...I'll put them up ASAP...there is some mild chance I'll be able to connect from Mexico. Well, here are the dates: P.S. Urbano!!! Todavia quieres el CD+?? O quieres q' te traiga el nuevo o algo?? Mandame un mail!!! OK? Lollapalooza Tour Dates Confirmed Tour Dates: June 27 Kansas City, MO - Longview Lake June 28 Des Moines, IA - State Fairgrounds July 2 Indianapolis, IN - Deer Creek Soccer Field July 5 Barrie, ONT - Molson Park July 7 Quebec City, QUE - The Hippodrome July 10 Middletown, NY - Orange Fairgrounds July 13 Syracuse, NY - New York State Fairgrounds July 16 Charleston, WV - Charleston Raceway July 18 Knoxville, TN - The Forks in the River July 20 Rockingham, NC - Rockingham Dragway July 23 New Orleans, LA - Tad Gormley Stadium July 25 Bryan, TX - Bryan Speedway July 26 Oklahoma City, OK - Remington Park July 30 Las Cruces, NM - UNM Practice Field July 31 Tuscon, AZ - Pima County Fairgrounds Tentative Tour Dates (subject to change): June 27 Longview, M0 - Longview Lake June 28 Des Moines, IA - State Fairgrounds June 30 Rockford, Il - Winnebago Fairgrounds July 2 Indianapolis, IN - Deer Creek Soccer Field July 3 Columbus/Stubenville, OH - Buckeye Lake/Jamboree in the Hills July 5 Barrie, ONT - Molson Park July 7 Quebec City, QUE - The Hippodrome July 9 Vermont - TBA July 10 Middletown, NY - Orange Fairgrounds July 11 Middletown, NY - Orange Fairgrounds July 13 Syracuse, NY - New York State Fairgrounds July 14 Medford, NJ - Flying W Ranch Airport July 16 Charleston, WV - Charleston Racyway July 18 Knoxville, TN - The Forks in the River July 20 Rockingham, NC - Rockingham Dragway July 21 Jacksonville, FL - Coliseum Grounds July 23 New Orleans, LA - Tad Gormley Stadium July 25 Bryan, TX - Bryan Speedway July 26 Oklahoma City, OK - Remington Park July 28 Laramie, WY - University Stadium July 30 Las Cruces, NM - UNM Practice Field July 31 Tucson, AZ - Pima County Fairgrounds August 2 San Berardino/Bakersfield, CA - Blockbuster Pavilion August 3 San Berardino/Bakersfield, CA - Blockbuster Pavilion August 4 San Jose, CA - Spartan Stadium August 6 George, WA - The Gorge August 7 George, WA - The Gorge August 9 Vancouver, BC - Thunderbird Stadium You can buy tickets online through http://www.ticketmaster.com/spotl/lolla/ European Tour Dates August 27 Denmark, Copenhagen August 30 Sweden, Stockholm September 1 Sweden, Gothenburg September 7 Norway, Oslo September 9 Finland, Helsinki September 12 Germany, Kiel Ostseshalle September 14 Belgium, Gent Flanders September 15 France, Paris Bercy September 18 Spain, San Sebastian September 19 Spain, La Caruna September 21 Portugal, Lisbon September 22 Spain, Madrid September 23 Spain, Barcelona September 26 Italy, Rome September 28 Italy, Milan September 29 Italy, Turin September 30 Italy, Firenze October 2 France, Marseille October 3 France, Lyon Hall October 5 England, Birmingham October 7 England, Newcastle October 9 Ireland, Dublin October 12 England, London October 15 England, Manchester October 16 Scotland, Edinburgh October 18 Germany, Hamburg October 21 Germany, Dortmund October 23 Germany, Frankfurt October 25 Germany, Mannheim October 26 Germany, Munich October 28 Hungary, Budapest October 29 Austria, Vienna October 30 Czech, Prague November 1 Germany, Berlin November 4 Germany, Kassel November 5 Germany, Oldenburg November 7 Switzerland, Zurich November 8 Germany, Stuttgart November 9 Germany, Nuremberg November 11 Germany, Bielefield November 12 Holland, Utrecht Ticket information not yet available. Peace! \/ Andrew Northcutt http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/northcut/ Add a: "TABS/" to see my SG tabs ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Online interview... Well kiddies, I've gotten quite a few requests for more info about the Rockline AOL interview with our Gods, Soundgarden. Jeez... some of you people actually want to know what time the thing starts. Heheheh... ok, here's whatcha need to know: Soundgarden on AOL June 10th, 10:30pm (eastern standard time) When you sign on to AOL, go to keyword: EVENTS (push the control and K keys at the same time... then enter EVENTS) That will take you to the live events board of the day. Just double click the Soundgarden interview... and you're there. Usually AOL will have an icon available upon signing on for live interviews... but if you're like me, and want to get there early... then use the keyword EVENTS. Need any more info? Just drop me some e-mail!! Start writing those questions people... and don't forget that we've got to bug them to check out the list and the page!! Shroomy "Damn, but that Shroom girl is one sexy babe!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: Gail Subject: PUCK of the RW III and SG Posters I've been swamped at work so I haven't read the digest in a while, yet now that I have I am a bit surprise at how many people thought PUCK was "cool". Everyone I know , who watched the show, thought he was an asshole. I thought he was a filthy, inconsiderate, arrogant, manipulative individual myself. Just because he was into the 'alternative' scene and he dug cool music didn't make him a bit more appealing. An at the end of the show when they kicked him out and he kept calling leaving angry messages I just thought he was sad. Just because one speaks his mind, doesn't stop him from being an asshole. Now for the my latest SG adventure...the Virgin Megastore near my place was giving away a Free promotional poster with the new DOTU cd. So naturally I had to have one. The only problem was I already had the cd and vinyl. "Not a problem," I said to myself. The newest Pantera (Great Southern Trendkill) was out so I decided to buy another copy of DOTU, get the poster, and return the cd for Pantera. Yet, out of sheer kindness and greed, in the following days I ended up buying 3 more copies of DOTU. I gave 2 posters away to friends and I have 1 poster on my wall and the other rolled up for collection purposes. I always thought you had to have a diverse taste in music in order to be a hardcore SG fan and now I have proof...from my week of SG gluttony I acquired not only 4 SG posters, but also: Pantera : The Great Southern Trendkill Elvis Costello: All This Useless Beauty Victor Jara: COMP. (a chilean singer/songwriter martyred in the 70's) Barry White: The best of... Oh, yes I did!! I love music, and life ain't that bad either!!!! Gail ********************************************************************** "I love it! I love it! I love it! I love it!" Blueberry Johnson - The State ********************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Andrew Jacobs Subject: Re: DOTU Oz promo vid query Actually, they don't have any left. They only had about 100 videos which didn't come in till about 4 days after the CD was released. I was extrememly pissed off because I completely forgot about putting my name down for the video when I bought my copy of DOTU. They also aren't going to get any more in because they only could get a limited amount. Bummer. Andrew >Sorry it took so long to reply to this, Greg, I haven't read my digests >since Tuesday. > >The video is available at Gaslight Music in Bourke St, Melbourne with >the purchase of DOTU.By all rights it should still be available. >They also do mail order if you can't get to Melbourne. >Otherwise drop me a line and we'll chat about doing a copy for ya. Oh yeah, >how's Cyberlink treating ya?? - say hi to Ballarat ( my old home town ) for >me!!! > >By the way sommsters, I don't have UMO.K. or LTL either - am I supposed to feel >less of a person because of it?? > >Burden In My Hand rips!!! > >Hando >redfive@ozonline.com.au > - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Jacobs * hoju@fhills.starway.net.au * hoju@union4.su.swin.edu.au * hoju@bud.cc.swin.edu.au - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: wow.. I went to the mall tonight with my friend Juustin to walk around and look at Soundgarden paraphenalia:) Well, I foudn a new shirt.. I know its new cause it said 1996 on it.. It had the Ultramega OK logo thinge on it (the thing that looks like an S and a G and an L7 and God knows what else) in red and it said "Soundgarden" across that like it does on the Pretty Noose single, only it was one word instead of two, all in red and gold on the front breast of a white shirt. And the back had the silhouettes of the band in black. I'm really pining for this shirt.. along with the new RATM one, cause it's nifty and it says "Fear is your only god" on the back.. But anyway, I also lookde for DOTU in the jewel case. I went to Record Town, Sam Goody and Tape World, and each store had about twenty or thirty copies of DOTU out in digipak. I have concluded that that limited edition thing is bullshit, unless someone fucked up and sent all the digipaks to Guilderland NY:) Which I doubt:) Maybe I should mail the fan clube again eh? Sounds like a fairly smart thing to do. Oh yeah and speaking of Sam Goody I walked in and heard a familiar song and was very pleased to recognise it as "Tighter & Tighter" :) We stayed there for the rest of the album, and it was at Sam Goody that I saw the new Soundgarden shirt so if you really want one (I want this shirt dammit) you might be able to find it there. Oh well... - -Champagne. ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Chicago Sun-Times article on SG (long) Here is an interesting article about Soundgarden, in the Chicago Sun-Times, Sunday, May 19, 1996 This one's for you and the web page, Seth ;-) ALTERNATIVE GARDEN GROWS Fierce-Sounding Quartet Keeps Rock Stardom in Perspective By Jae-Ha Kim Ask Kim Thayil why his band, Soundgarden, rarely smiles in photos or in videos, and he'll answer, "We're not perky boys." That's the understatement of the year. Anyone who has ever heard the group's songs will never mistake the four-man band from Seattle for the wispy lads in Take That. Soundgarden's thick, dense music helped create Seattle's "grunge" scene. Though they preceded Nirvana and Pearl Jam onto that scene, the musicians watched as their colleagues earned fame and fortune, patiently waiting for their time to come. That time came in 1991-seven years after Thayil and bassist Hiro Yamamoto (who quit in 1990) formed Soundgarden. "Badmotorfinger" went platinum that year. In 1994, "Superunknown" sold 5 million copies and, for its encore, won a couple of Grammys. On Soundgarden's latest CD "Down on the Upside," which hits stores Tuesday, fans will hear a stunning collection of songs that comes as close as you'll get to capturing the group's hard-rocking live shows without actually having to step into an arena. (See related story for CD review.) And arenas are where Soundgarden play now. They're one of the featured headliners on this year's Lollapalooza tour, making them the only act to have been featured twice on the alternative music fest since its 1991 inception-first in 1992 and again this summer. They're also one of the reasons why Lollapalooza founder Perry Farrell (formerly of Jane's Addiction and currently in Porno for Pyros) disassociated himself from the festival. Farrell said that having bands like them and headliner Metallica on the bill took away from the alternative spirit upon which the fest was founded. "I think it's silly for affluent American white guys to worry about this contrived polarity between metal and alternative music," Thayil said, phoning from his Seattle home. "I think both these forms share more of the same spirit in terms of its demographics than, say, reggae or jazz or classical or various Euro techno music." Thayil and Soundgarden have learned about the dangers of labeling music the hard way. Once stuck in musical purgatory-where their record company preferred to promote them under the more popular "heavy metal" tag, as opposed to the relatively new category of "alternative"-they were at times shunned by metal and alternative fnas, who deemed them either sellouts or uncool. But they persevered. Eventually, their videos worked their way onto MTV, though not in heavy rotation. They were most often played on MTV's metal show "Headbangers Ball" and, ironically enough, its alternative show "120 Minutes." "When we started out, there wasn't a successful alternative market," Thayil said. "The record companies perceived all the money being in heavy metal, so they called us metal, and we cringed at the term back then. We really identified ourselves more with the underground or college scene that was going on then." Genre notwithstanding, the musicians have come into their own as artists and as superstars. Unlike Nirvana's Kurt Cobain and Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder, who never seemed to enjoy that status, Thayil, singer-guitarist Chris Cornell, drummer Matt Cameron and bassist Ben Shepherd appear to be comfortable with fame. Though their multi-platinum sales have made them wealthy men (they own rights to publishing and merchandising), the musicians keep themselves on an $1,100 per month allowance. Obviously, they don't have to worry about making ends meet anymore, but Thayil said they were used to living on so little for so long that they don't find extravagant lifestyles a necessity or particularly desirable. Thayil's intelligence and wry wit belie his quirky, long-haired looks ("I've had long hair since I was 10," he swore. "I always got it cut around school picture time, though.") While his band is definitely the Seattle kind, Thayil is quick to point out that he grew up in suburban Park Forest, where he attended Rich East High School. "I was on the debate team there my sophomore year," said the articulate musician. "It was me and another long-haired kid. We weren't any good, but we were funny. We had some weird debates." Thayil spent 1 & 1/2 years studying liberal arts at the University of Illinois at Chicago before transferring to the University of Washington, where he earned his bachelor's degree in philosophy. "I took a lot of biology and chemistry my freshman year and sort of weaved into literature, philosophy, and psychology," he said, taking long drags on his cigarette that were audible over the phone lines. "I really liked the whole process of psychology, but I realized how weak it was as a major." Asked what Thayil the former psych student would make of a song like "Pretty Noose," the first single from their new CD, he laughed. "I guess songs could work as pop psychology," he said. "Sure, I can see it as being a surrogate Oprah." Cornell, who writes the majority of the band's lyrics, has admitted that sometimes his songs are nothing more than just arbitrary words that sound good together. But that hasn't stopped fans and critics from analyzing the band's music, which is often bleak and chilling. One of their best songs from the new album, the Stooges-esque "Ty Cobb," will never make it on American radio because of the "f" word being an integral part of the song. "The funny thing about it is we met the German representative for our record company, and he is dead set on having 'Ty Cobb' be the second or third single in Germany," Thayil said. "I said, 'In spite of the lyrical content?' And he said, 'What the hell! I really don't understand why it's 1996 and people worry about lyrical content, especially in a country like the U.S. It's like the days when people were so bugged out about [the supposedly suggestive] lyrics to 'Louie Louie.' It seems so archaic." Taking another long drag on his cigarette, Thayil pondered a more pleasant subject. "Hey, do you like baseball?" he asked. "I can name the lineup for the '69 Cubs." And he did. REVIEW UPSIDE FAVORS LIVE SIDE OF BAND Soundgarden, "Down on the Upside" (A&M) *** out of **** All it took Soundgarden to capture the recorded sound it had always wanted was to nix the producer. Guitarist Kim Thayil and singer Chris Cornell have stated that if their past efforts had any faults, it was that they sounded too clean. While their latest effort,"Down on the Upside"-in stores Tuesday-isn't exactly full of superfluous noise, it's the closest the band has come to capturing its vibrant live spirit. (Adam Kasper is credited with co-producing the album, but Thayil said he worked more as an adviser than a hands-on producer.) A group that found mainstream fame via the power ballads "Black Hole Sun" and "Fell on Black Days," Soundgarden's latest effort doesn't have as obvious a hit on it. The closest is the first single "Pretty Noose," which beautifully showcases Cornell's controlled wails. The 16-song, 66 minute CD is an ambitious effort where the songs have a cohesive groove to them, right down to the bleak outlook all the musicians seem to share. Though Cornell is the primary lyricist, all four members contributed tracks. Soundgarden's genius isn't in its intricate guitar work or even in Cornell's tortured tenor, but rather in its ability to mesh somber lyrics with music that is surprisingly uplifting and catchy, while also being raw and dirty. "Ty Cobb" goes from a gentle mandolin intro into a playfully obscene chorus. And "Rhinosaur" sounds like it could serve as this year's Lollapalooza theme. It seems to take stabs at rock stars and the throngs that idolize them: "I play, I'm sick and tame/Drawing the hordes I wait/And show the lame the meaning of harm." - -Jae-Ha Kim - --------- Hope you liked it! Vasant ****************************************************************************** The Refuge of the Damned http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html Lots of music, photos, links, and more! vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: just a speck on the ground... On Fri, 31 May 1996, Ben Timberlake wrote: > the end of Head Down, there's that little sort of drum melee. To me, it > always meant the advent of the spacey guitar of Black Hole Sun (which I > maintain is a fantastic song). Likewise, on DOTU, there's sort of a > similar little drum thing that ends No Attention leading perfectly into > the similar Switch Opens. My friend Ryan thinks this is a subconcious I like it when band's do little intros to songs, much like the ones before switch opens and head down (is it a coincidence that these two are written by ben?). it makes the song sound a bit more *there*, like on the _songs from the superunk_ cd where the tune-up before fobd is left on the cd. to me, that stuff sounds cool, and shows that the band is not afraid to change things up a bit. I wouldn't want to hear the band do it on every song, but it's cool now and again. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: I'm baaack!! Howdy all. =20 Yes, I'm back on email. From reading the past couple of days postings, = I can see that in only the four weeks I've been unsubscribed there seems = to have been a few newies to the list. Along with the new album, I = guess. Welcome, folks! And WHAT a new album it is, 'eh? Oh, but you all already knew that. = It's simply magnificent. A masterpiece. Our boys did us all proud! = :-) "Pretty Noose" I think was a GOOD choice of single. I adore it, as a = die-hard Soundgarden fan, but so too do friends of mine as = not-so-keen-on-Soundgarden people. In fact, many of those friends will = probably go out and buy the album now. So like I said, I think it was a = good choice - NOT so "radio-friendly" (is this a new trendy term?) but = at the same time not so dark.....still a reasonable depiction of = Soundgarden The Band. Okay, back to reading more old Somms postings. This note was just to = say hello to some of my old list buddies, letting them know I'm still = alive. =20 {and Ross, Little Joe, Matthew S - I haven't forgotten I owe you each a = tape!!} Bye for now, Carolyn the Motor Finger ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm high as a kite, I just might stop to check you out - Violent Femmes ------------------------------ From: DEFsonic Subject: Re: BMF & SU Together On Fri, 31 May 1996, Greg Bensimon wrote: > A couple of months back, I was walking through Tower Records and found a BMF > and Superunknown packaged together in some "special" release. Has anyone > else seen this? Was it some sort of limited release? Seeing as I already > had both albums and there didn't seem to be anything else of unique value, I > didn't drop the $50+ for it. Maybe I should go back and try to find it... > Nope, it's nothing special. I think it's called the Supermotorfinger boxed set. I think it was a way of ppl to buy Super and Motor, if they didn't already own them. Bit more cash to A&M in otherwords. it's not a bad deal if you didn't already own the records, tho $50 is a bit steep. Was going for $34 or something down here at one stage. I think they have basically sold out now, so that may be why it is expensive, trying to pass it off as a limited edition thing. Doesn't have anything new except for the carboard box. seeya Lee _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/ Sonic Turn IT up and PLAY it LOUD, let the blood rush to your head. Sonic mail: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au ------------------------------ From: cynsir@village.ios.com Subject: Re: somms for $ 20.00 ? I've only seen SOMMS on the net for $60. Bite me, too much $.. I'm in NYC. Please email me if anyone knows of anywhere to score that or any fine bootleggs. LOUDLY YOURS, Cyn ------------------------------ From: cynsir@village.ios.com Subject: Re: IRC The IRC channel is called #SOUNDGARDEN (according to their i-music page) but no one is ever there. I just checked. Any others? Cyn ------------------------------ From: Stella Rogers Subject: Matt on vocals Hey all, I was just listening to like every SG cd I have, and I was thinking "wouldnt it be really cool if matt sang just one song?" I mean, I've always heard him in the background and doing backups and I think that he has a really great voice from what I can tell. And I know it would really be hard to sing and play drums at the same time but I dunno... I just think it would be really cool if they wrote a song that Matt had lead vocals on. What do you all think? srogers http://www.fix.net/~srogers ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Hanel Subject: RE: Great Moments in SG Hey Glenn, you and I seem to have "connected" in some of the reasons we = like some Soundgarden songs. Rusty Cage is my favourite song (amongst many many others, but I will = always go back to that one as just a teensy cut above the rest), and I = like it for the same reason Glenn said here: 4) the intro of "Rusty Cage", and the slow, off the wall break in the = middle of=20 the song; Oh boy, it's good to be back!! Ah, I love Soundgarden!! :-) Also, I love as Glenn does: 3) the riff in "Gun", which moves from a slow, vaguely interesting = pattern to an=20 infectiously fast cresendo; And I like at the end how it goes back to being slow like at the start. 5) the slow break in "Slaves & Bulldozers", just after the solo, when = Chris=20 sings in his amazing lower register; That IS my all-time favourite part of any Soundgarden song - I know CC = has great upper vocal range, but I still prefer to hear his lower range = - - only wish he'd do it more often! and the nutty tones of "Drawing Flies"; Glenn knows I love that one! :-) 12) "Limo Wreck" and "4th of July", arguably two of the strongest songs = the band has ever composed; Agreed. 17) "Blow Up the Outside World", as the listener is shoved headfirst, = grinning=20 all the way, into the chorus; Definitely - an amazingly brilliant song, like so many of the others on = DOTU. I would add to Glenn's list: "Uncovered", the quirky deep vocals and great guitar choppiness (palm = muting, right guys??); "Pretty Noose", at the very end when CC drops to a lower key to sing the = last two lines - as I wrote above I wish he'd sing in a low range more = often; "Dusty", firstly the brief drum opening, secondly the cool soft vocals, = and thirdly the wonderful way the drums mix in with the acoustic guitar = strumming during each verse; "Ty Cobb", the sweet opening light guitar melody followed by full-on = hard rock - thrashy and fast and powerul and GREAT!!; "Burden In My Hand", the vocals (again) - how does CC manage to sing = high and yet still so powerful? - this song is my favourite from DOTU. = I LOVE that it opens slowly, and then Matt does that great drum roll, = and it turns into a full-blown simply wonderful song - and what = fantastic lyrics this one has; "Never Named", the way the song starts immediately - no mucking around - = and I especially love the sections that follow each chorus (the first = one is about 1min 30secs after the start), and it's so cool that the = song ends the way it began - abruptly with no messing around. Well.. thanks for reading that. :)> =20 Same goes for me! Cheers all, Carolyn the Murky Foal ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Close your eyes and bow your head - I need a little sympathy - = Soundgarden ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 142] ****************************************