From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 30 May 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 02:14:26 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 30 May 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: great moments in music Re: The Unsung Writer Re: Oasis are cool My turn Re: Spoonman Creations AOL Oasis are cool Albums Greatest Moments In SG Songs... Pretty Noose/Ugly Single? interview RE: AOL Re: Web page Loudest Love Digipaks and Jewel Cases . . . RE: AOL Kim? Re: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell #somms Re: web page Re: interview Re: interview sub pop and SST MTV In disguise Re: Loudest Love Re: sub pop and SST Comments SG interview on YTV somms! Album Rankings Re: Oasis are cool Screaming Trees/Soundgarden RE:stop Re: Album Rankings Re: Screaming Trees/Soundgarden ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: Re: great moments in music > >-"full on reprise".. lots of soul, emotions coming out in the music. > >- Kim's solo in "like suicide"... i just love it. Seems to punctuate the >feelings that Chris is expressing. > > Wow!!! Full on.. is simply awesome And what can I said about LIKE SUICIDE,is SOUNDGARDEN'S symphony, to me... I have a pirate (I don't know if you call "pirate" to the records that are made without permission of the record company, anyway), in this live CD comes HANDS ALL OVER live, and... my God,you fell like you are falling from the sky and reach some kind of climax. I think overall, SOUNDGARDEN,is my guru... LOve iS LIke SUIcide ROBIN ------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: Re: The Unsung Writer At 07:24 PM 28/05/96 +-1000, Dean Cameron wrote: >Everybody seems to be talking about how Chris Cornell is the "writer" in SG and how his stuff is always the coolest. > >It's not that I want to argue that Chris isn't talented he is a legend, but credit where credit is due. > >'An Unkind' is one of my favourite songs on DOTU and Ben Shepherd has shown that he too can churn out not only a good song but a fucking awesome chorus! > >Three cheers for Ben huh... How about it > > Yep! I really do agree with you, Ben's songs were my favorite once (except for Show me, I don't like it),I believe that SOUNDGARDEN ARE KIM, MATT, CHRIS and BEN. LOve iS likE suICIDE Robin ------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: Re: Oasis are cool At 11:28 AM 29/05/96 +0100,some lost in the space wrote: >From: Steve >To: >Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:30:00 +0:00 >Subject: Oasis are cool > > Just a quick message to let you know that Oasis are much better >than that depressing Soundgarden Yankee tripe. > > BRITISH IS BEST! > > > Where are you from? Neverland or what life isn't a fairy tale, if you don't like SOUNDGARDEN (THE BEST), Don't you think that you are in the wrong page, anyway, some british groups are cool (Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Led Zeppelin, etc. )If SG is depressing Oasis is pathetic. ROBIN ------------------------------ From: ASDrum@aol.com Subject: My turn OK - I've been quietly amused by all that has been said about my beloved Soundgarden, but I feel that I must now speak: 1) HELLO??!! Superunknown is without a doubt SG's best album. "Let Me Drown" skippable??? I think not! "Let Me Drown", in my opinion anyway, is the definitive SG song, and my personal favorite. The only skippables on this album are: Superunknown, Black Hole Sun, and Spoonman (too overplayed). So, my list goes something like this: 1) Superunknown (#1 Let Me Drown, #2 Limo Wreck, #3 Day I Tried to Live) 2) DOTU (Ty Cobb, Burden in My Hand, Dusty, Tighter & Tighter, Never the Machine) 3) Badmotorfinger (Slaves & Bulldozers, Drawing Flies, Mind Riot) 4) Screaming Life/Fopp (Hand of God, Little Joe, Fopp) 5) Louder Than Love (Gun, Loud Love, Full on..) 6) Ultramega OK - sorry Shroom - (Head Injury, Beyond the Wheel) And don't kill me, but Jesus Christ Pose is definitely a skippable - I mean, I love the lyrics, but the music is harsh! (And I used to be a punk/metal freak). But I HAVE to listen to my music loud, and JCP just busts holes in the ole ear drums. 2) I read "New Metal Crown" by Chris Nickson - was thoroughly disappointed. It was just a summary of every article I had already read! And he made the group out to be these totally moronic, humorless guys, who just kind of stay depressed all the time! (And we all know how funny these guys are! - just look at Kim's take on Gufus & Gallant). Anyway, I didn't learn anything new, and got depressed in the process. Skip this book. 3) Is it just me....or does Soundgarden have the suckiest T-shirts? I have to display, loud and clear, for the whole world to see, exactly who the best groups out there are. Soundgarden is at the top of a very short list, but I find myself wearing Nine Inch Nails (#2 on that short list) t-shirts more than anything (let's face it - they have a genius merchandiser). While I admire Susan Silver for the way she takes care of this band, she's really got to get to work on the merchandising side of it. Tell me I'm not alone on this! That's all for now. Shroom - loved the Chris/Dave Navarro thang. Mmmmp. Anyway, gots to go. '"Seize the day, pull the trigger, drop the blade, and watch the rolling heads" C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: Bryan Alan Blumklotz Subject: Re: Spoonman Creations Caryn>>> I was wandering around Portland's Saturday Market a month ago and saw the same guy... I asked him if he did custom work and I was thinking of having him make a nice fork for me... just have not had the time. You are right the silver were stuff was a kick but the Fly Glasses were even cooler... Saracen AKA Bryan >i was at the university district street fair last sunday, just walking >around and stuff. i saw this booth with jewelry made from forks and >spoons, and headed over hoping to find a fork necklace. ------------------------------ From: Gardena@aol.com Subject: AOL I remember reading a post a few days back about getting all of those on AOL in some kind of chat room.... sounds good...just let me know when!!!!!!! Dena ------------------------------ From: "S.G.Smith" Subject: Oasis are cool From: Steve To: Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 11:30:00 +0:00 Subject: Oasis are cool Just a quick message to let you know that Oasis are much better than that depressing Soundgarden Yankee tripe. BRITISH IS BEST! ------------------------------ Subject: Albums From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 Thought I'd just include my list which seems to differ from everyone elses.. 1. BadMotorFinger - such a strong album, greater than the sum of it's parts... 2. Louder Than Love - the album that introduced me to SG. It has Loud Love. 3. Down On The Upside - sounds fucking great already. 4. Screaming Life/Fopp - full on energy, and sounds like fun 5. UltraMegaOK - raw, noisy and altogether pretty damn fine. 6. Superunknown - I don't know why I list this last, I love most of the songs but when it comes to the album as a whole I rarely listen to it. When I came to university it was the only one I didn't bring down... Still a great album though. Cheers, BC ------------------------------ Subject: Greatest Moments In SG Songs... From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 > Say.. new thread?? Great moments in SG songs??? :)> Brilliant suggestion my friend... - The intro to 'Loud Love', it's just so emotional, so perfect. - Full On Kevin's Mom (reprise), the whole damn song! - The harmonic intro to 'Limo Wreck'. It's _so_ cool. - The intro to '4th Of July'. Crushing, floors me everytime. - 'Slaves And Bulldozers' live. They bring it to life. - The slow 'fucked-up timing' bridge in 'Rusty Cage'. Brilliantly jumpaboutable. It's a bitch to learn how to play at first. - The chorus of 'Dusty' and 'Blow Up the Outside World'. Proof that SG can still write great songs and could use them as singles, like BHS. No compromising. God, there's tone more but I can't be bothered to write them all down... Cheers, BC ------------------------------ From: chaneyk@stu.beloit.edu (Keidra Chaney) Subject: Pretty Noose/Ugly Single? If this thread has already been done before please stop me, but do any of you out there think that PN might nothave been the best choice for a first single, at least in terms of enticing people to buy DOTU? I've talked to a few people I know that are "casual listeners" of Soundgarden. Quite a few of the have complained that PN is too "ugly and confusing"(actual quote) of a song to be a first single and I've talked to a couple of people who are now turned off from buying DOTU because of the song. I've argued to them that people expecting to hear "Black Hole Sun:The Album" will be suprised by DOTU, but anyone familiar with Soundgarden's past work wouldn't be too thrown off by PN. I think it's a great song, but perhaps my friends have a point. Maybe a more "radio friendly" song like "Burden in My Hand" or even " Blow up the outside World" would have been a better choice for a first single. Any Comments? ------------------------------ From: Andrew John Sharp Subject: interview following is an interview/article on sg from this weeks KERRAP! =========================================== Something strange is going on in seattle - the world's most miserable band are laughing. They are Soundgarden and, as Morat finds out, they've only gone and started doing Beavis and Butthead impressions aswell... It's Friday night in Seattle and Soundgarden's Chris Cornell and Kim Thayil are doing Beavis and Butthead impressions. "Penis! Scrotum! Cool!" says the famously bug-eyed guitarist. "Soundgarden Rock!" Yes, the four men who appeared to be so utterly grim-faced that they earned the collective nickname frowngarden are not allergic to the odd laugh after all. But then, you'll know as much when you get an earful of 'Ty Cobb', the neck breaking punk rock tune on the bands unreasonably brilliant new album 'Down On The Upside'. Not only does 'Ty Cobb' feature an hilarious mandolin duel between Cornell and bassist Ben Shepherd, it also uses the F-word an admirably indecent amount of times. So, you'd be wrong to call Soundgarden a miserable bunch of bastards after all. You'd also be sadly misguided if you thought that soundgarden ponced around Seattle acting like rock stars. If it weren't for the gold discs hanging from the walls of their plush management offices, you wouldn't know if they were even a rock band, let alone one of the biggest rock bands in the world today. No, even after selling five million copies of their last album 'Superunknown', Soundgarden remain remarkably unaffected by their own success. If anything, the world has changed around them. On the rare occasions that they go to a club, for instance, the DJ will immediately start playing their music. "It's totally weird," says Cornell. "You realise that somebody's standing there watching you and they're trying to get a reaction. And some people will come up and start being really rude to you because they think that it's cool. Kurt Cobain used to get that too." Today, even after a week of doing press to promote 'Down On The Upside', their mood is friendly. While Thayil and Cornell go 'Cool!', Shepherd flicks through the gig guide of a local rag, The Stranger looking for action. He pauses to sneer at an advert for Lazervana, a Nirvana 'tribute' band, then turns the page. LA punk legends Fear, whose classic 'I Don't Care About You' Soundgarden covered a few years ago for a Radio One session, are playing a show in town tonight. Ben says he'd go, but he doesn't like the owner of the club. Thayil says he'd like to go too, but being a brown-skinned rock star in a club where there might be nazi skinheads is not a good idea. The fact is, Soundgarden don't go to many gigs. Talk to any of Seattles grunge kids and they'll laugh or whine about how little Soundgarden are seen. But most of them just don't know where to look. Cornell, Thayil, Shepherd and drummer Matt Cameron hang out with the same friends in the same places as they always have. Ben will go to his regular haunt, the OK Cafe where he'll drink and play pool with his friends. Usually quiet and intense, but occasionally volatile and dangerous, Ben doesn't get hassled too much at the OK Cafe. Kim the philospher in a band of philosphers, will visit friends or sit up all night watching sport on TV. And he'll call his friend Brad later to talk about basketball. Cornell and Cameron will hook up with friends or ride their motorbikes. The former can be painfully softly spoken and takes a long time to relax around people he doesn't know. The latter is possible the most outgoing member of the band, and also the most 'normal'. The four of them has known each other for almost a decade. Thayil, who had moved to Seattle from Chicago can still recall their first meeting. "We didn't like each other," says Chris. "I believe we met through a mutual friend," say Kim. "I didn't like him either," says Chris. "Chris was really quiet and didn't open up much so it took quite a while to get to know him," recalls Thayil. Chris worked in the same coffee shop as Andrew Wood, the late Mother Love Bone singer. Thayil studied philosphy and worked in the Department Of Correction's juvenile wing, where he was mistaken for an inmate by the rest of the staff. Ben Shepherd was a friend of Thayil's younger brother. While Matt Cameron had left San Deigo for Seattle with Grotus' Adam Tanner, and quickly became a 'face' on the city's music scene. "Ben was 12 years old, he was cute, and kind of lanky kid , and he was learning how to play the guitar," says Kim. "He knew a couple of chords and he had a kind of punk rock haircut. He was like a punk rock toy." "When I first met Matt, he was already the best drummer in town," says Cornell. "He just seemed very confident and well-adjusted." Indeed only Cornell seems to have reinvented himself over the years. Even if this has simply meant cutting off his long hair and keeping his shirt on for photo sessions. Once hailed as *the* grunge pin-up, Cornell is now seen first and foremost as a brilliant musician. And it's music, as opposed to money or fame that has always been Soundgardens driving force. They don't find it difficult to keep motivated just because they are now extremely wealthy. Soundgarden are not flash. They do not drive a fleet of Ferraris, or host wild orgies in their rock star mansions. Kim was the last member of the band to buy his own house, and he's almost apologetic that it's so big. "A little bit," he nods "It was bigger than anything I'd ever lived in. I'd stay up all night because I felt very vunerable, like I was sleeping in a park with walls around it. It took me a little while to not feel bad about having money. My parents were both immigrants and they didn't have a lot of money, so my Dad was very meticulous. I still feel bad about not finishing everything on my plate." Is it awkward having friends who're skint? "Sometimes," he says "But my close friends don't really freak out; it's not like, 'Kim's my rich friend, we've known each other for 20 years, and I'm still working in this shitty job making 11 bucks an hour'. There are some people who might feel envious, but they're big guys and they know that I've been doing this a long time. They remember when I was unemployed. If we'd got rich overnight like Nirvana or Pearl Jam that might've freaked them out more, but they saw all the time and effort we put into it." "My friends are cool about it," adds Chris. "But then I gave them all motorcycles. One thing that's cool about having money is sharing it with friends." Kim spends the next 20 minutes analysing the concept of vast wealth. But since none of us is likely to experience it, or understand a word Thayil says when he's in full flow, we just politely nod and let him get on with it. Soundgarden will leave their normal lives behind in Seattle when they hit the road again in the near future. But when they arrive in a town near you, don't bother asking them to leap about onstage just like they used to. "It's kind of hard to jump around when you're playing 'Black Hole Sun'," says Kim defensively. "At one point it was something that we naturally did," continues Cornell. "But after a number of years, you start to feel like you're acting. All those people who criticiseus for not jumping around should shut the fuck up, and when they come to our shows they should jump around and entertain us for a while. It's our turn," he says, slipping into a spot-on Butthead voice. "You know, 'Look at all those people jumping around, thats really cool! You guys rock!." Which is where we came in... ========================================== can you imagine Kim doing Beavis! makes me laugh out loud thinking of it :) The pictures that went with the article were of the four band members; Ben, Chris and Kim smiling (yes - Ben smiling!!!) and Matt with this weird expression on his face - kinda like he had just sat in something unplesant. There was also a side panel with the following in it; ========================================= *Once upon a time, strange men were always asking Chris Cornell to take his shirt off. Did he not like that.* From 1984 up to the 'Badmotorfinger' album in 1991, Soundgarden was a bit of a rock god. He had long hair and big muscles. This turned out to be a bad thing. "All of a sudden, there's pictures of me with my shirt off in all these metal pin-up magazines," says Chris. "That shit gets on your nerves really quick. One photographer told me, 'It's alright, I know how to photograph naked bodies. I do pictures for Penthouse and Playboy'." "The 50th time a photographer told me to take my shirt off, it was like, 'I'll wear lots of shirts from now on'," Chris continues. "I was kind of bummed out because it had nothing to do with the music. It was just the fact that I had long hair..." "And nice tits!" hoots Kim Thayil. ========================================= I only get the digest (I'm on three other mailing lists as it is!) so if someone else has sent this in then tough! :) Andy. ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Raul Agrait) Subject: RE: AOL couldn't we also do this on IRC for the ppl who dont have AOL?? I would like to do this..if anyone is interested write to me or post about it. -Hasswipee >I remember reading a post a few days back about getting all of those on AOL >in some kind of chat room.... sounds good...just let me know when!!!!!!! > >Dena > > Hasswipee's Home Page http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~rea49625/ ------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: Web page Sure! Ill send over my picture...Am I quite possibly SOMMS youngest member? Im 15.... ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Loudest Love While looking at my copy of Loudest Love's Japanese Lyrics (thanks to Outshined@aol.com!!!), It says '90 (string of japanese characters) then DANZIG. This seems to be a band biography. Any takers as to DANZIG's importance? Did they tour with them? I can't remember. Later, Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Digipaks and Jewel Cases . . . Did anyone do what I did? I took the CD and the Book out of the digipak, put the digipak up as a nifty picture, then put the CD in a regular case with the book and used my out artwork for the cd case. My roommates think I've become anal about Soundgarden . . . Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: RE: AOL How's about we IRC right now? Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: Kim? I just read in some guitar mag/rag that Kim wanted to name the album "Devil - King of Children" and that he really liked an early mix of Applebite, but then again, who cares. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell I know what he meant by this....Puck was saying that he could tell if people are assholes, and if they are he would tell them to their face that they are assholes. So he is saying that Pedro is a dork and stuff and then he says to the chick...I dont care, If Chris Cornell was an asshole, I would say it to his face...Meaning, that chris is probably the coolest guy in the world, but if he was an asshole in real life, he would tell him off, he wouldn't kiss his ass like everyone else. On Sun, 26 May 1996 champagne.supernova@thenexus.com wrote: > DA>Hey, I was watching a re-run of Real World 3 (3 is it? Its the one w/ Puck a > DA>Pedro, Racheal, Judd ect.) and Puck was talking to Racheal bout how he hates > DA>Pedro and all...It went like this: > > DA>"I don't like his pompus attitude > DA>I don't care if he's on Opra Winfrey... > DA> I don't care if Chris Cornell is cool also, > DA>he's an asshole" > > DA>It went kinda fast, but I'm almost positive he said it like that....And I > DA>always thought Puck was cool! :) I wonder what he's got against Chris? > > I never understood what he meant by that... Cause earlier in that > episode he's talking about Pedro and Pedro's boyfriend and he says "I > wonder if they have Loud Love." So Puck LIKES Soundgarden. I'm > mystified about that one comment though.. > > -Champagne. > > > ------------------------------ Subject: #somms From: Ben Timberlake I'm on right now if anyone's available -- Ben Ben Timberlake "The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est, Northwestern University Pro patria mori." Medill School of Journalism -- Wilfred Owen btimlake@nwu.edu -30- *Check out my dorm's web page!* http://www.stuaff.nwu.edu/crc/ "They say if you look hard / You'll find your way back home Born without a friend / And bound to die alone." -- Chris Cornell, "Zero Chance" ------------------------------ From: Grant Asher Subject: Re: web page Ummmm..... Sorry for being stupid..... I didn't know that there was a member directory on seth's homepage.... I'll just rejoin the stupid people again. Thank you for responding kindly (and avoiding the temptation to flame me). Grant Asher ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: interview > Something strange is going on in seattle - the world's most miserable > band are laughing. They are Soundgarden and, as Morat finds out, > they've only gone and started doing Beavis and Butthead impressions aswell... > > It's Friday night in Seattle and Soundgarden's Chris Cornell and Kim > Thayil are doing Beavis and Butthead impressions. > "Penis! Scrotum! Cool!" says the famously bug-eyed guitarist. > "Soundgarden Rock!" if they made a home video of this, i would DEFINETLY buy it :).. can you just imagine Kim's eyes popping out when he talked like Beavis?.. what a riot! > > Ben Shepherd was a friend of Thayil's younger brother. While Matt > Cameron had left San Deigo for Seattle with Grotus' Adam Tanner, and > quickly became a 'face' on the city's music scene. ahhh.. some useful info here kiddies! > > "Ben was 12 years old, he was cute, and kind of lanky kid , and he was > learning how to play the guitar," says Kim. "He knew a couple of chords > and he had a kind of punk rock haircut. He was like a punk rock toy." amusing little comment :) > > > Kim spends the next 20 minutes analysing the concept of vast wealth. But > since none of us is likely to experience it, or understand a word Thayil > says when he's in full flow, we just politely nod and let him get on with it. this sounds like something Kim would do... hehe > "It's kind of hard to jump around when you're playing 'Black Hole Sun'," > says Kim defensively. "At one point it was something that we naturally > did," continues Cornell. "But after a number of years, you start to feel > like you're acting. All those people who criticiseus for not jumping > around should shut the fuck up, and when they come to our shows they > should jump around and entertain us for a while. It's our turn," he > says, slipping into a spot-on Butthead voice. "You know, 'Look at all > those people jumping around, thats really cool! You guys rock!." > still ... pretty funny. These are the interviews I like.. where the band is just well relaxed, in a natural setting, and THE INTERVIEWER KNOWS ABOUT THEM!! jer-o-me - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ Subject: Re: interview From: dbradsh@usa.pipeline.com (DeeDee.Bradshaw) - --coolness...just got your post on the SG thing...i go to ncsu as well...arent you the guy with a SG homepeage?? DeeDee.Bradshaw ------------------------------ From: Gardena@aol.com Subject: sub pop and SST Subject: Re: Loudest Love I remember when they were touring for Loud Love, they toured with Faith No More and Voivod. And I think they toured with Danzig after that. It's such a long time ago! Anyway, Kim is ALWAYS wearing a Danzig t-shirt. Geoff On Wed, 29 May 1996, Mayor McCheese wrote: > While looking at my copy of Loudest Love's Japanese Lyrics (thanks to > Outshined@aol.com!!!), > > It says '90 (string of japanese characters) then DANZIG. This seems to > be a band biography. Any takers as to DANZIG's importance? Did they > tour with them? I can't remember. > > Later, > Mayor McCheese > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite > > > ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: Re: sub pop and SST At 03:38 PM 05/29/96 -0400, you wrote: >I hate to blaspheme the allmighty SOUNDGARDEN gods, BUT >I have to say that Nirvana was the band probably most responsible for putting >sub pop on the map... nope, the band that started the 'buzz' was Mudhoney and their 7" single "Touch Me I'm Sick" which created Mudhoneymania and the sound you heard throughout the musical community was major label A&R reps hoping off the plane in Seattle (and hopping on the bandwagon). as to SST well then I guess it would be safe to say >that SG helped out SST alot. Once they started selling albums...yes. But the SST musical legacy was made by bands like Firehose, Black Flag, Husker Du etc. Check em out...they *werent* bad ;-) No sleep till B(uffalo), Steve - - srussell@epix.net - - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr (now listed in Yahoo!) - - SG Web Alliance - - "I'm looking California...and feeling Chautauqua" ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Comments Sommseters, A few short comments, the AIC unplugged was one of the best performances I have ever seen. I made a audio tape of it and I just can't stop listning to it. Hmm.. oh yeah that phrase "I eat more chicken then any man done seen" is from the Howling Wolf song "Back Door Man" not the doors, especially since the song was written when the doors were kids. Oh yeah has anyone heard from Jamestta Lately? I haven't heard from here since here response to my little sg vinyl problem (which has since been rectified, thanks for the support) anyway is she still emersed in the soundgarden? Hmm... a sg overdose not possible, anyway I'm out of here. Clown ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: SG interview on YTV For all you Canadians out there... I was flipping through the channels today and as I passed by YTV I heard the words "Down On The Upside", sure enough, it was a SG interview. I didn't have time to record it so I just watched. The interview was with Chris and Matt, it was only about 5 mins long. Anyways, it was a one shot deal (no reruns), they said there would be a part two to the interview at 3:25 (not sure which timezone) on Friday. ------------------------------ From: jsk@tiac.net Subject: somms! Whoever it is that's keeping the list of SOMMS owners , add my name! yay! Thank you Seth, I wouldn't have found it if you hadn't posted that Second Coming list. Because when I'd go into Second Coming, I'd just flip idly through the millions of bootlegs that I can't afford and leave, never even realizing that somms was there in a back room, for twenty bucks. hee! Before all the Somms-less start hating me, I haven't even had the opportunity to listen to it yet (I work late, headphones are broken, long sob story, etc). Grrr. Yes it does say for promo only. How nice.... I read the newbie bashing thing and thought, ya know, that makes me feel bad and I should post something eloquent about it. ('specially since I'm a newbie compared to some of you all and I really don't care....so I wasn't lucky enough to have been enlightened earlier. so fucking what.) A few days passed and many of you did the dirty work for me. :) And THEN, subsequent posts from Jerm weren't bitchy or huffily apologetic, but rather simple requests for personal email flames. whatta guy. So he had PMS the other, I forgive him. My faith in humanity restored! Well, that's going a bit far.....but I am feeling all warm and fuzzy about my fave mailing list. - -----J Z B L (down with e's! yeah! jumpin on the bandwagon! ha.) btw, there is an online catalog ======> http://tiltpix.com/tilt/dist/kozik/index.html that has some of Frank Kozik's posters for good prices! Check em out, they're great! ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Album Rankings God, this is so very difficult. But, here goes: WITH "SCREAMING LIFE/FOPP" TOGETHER AS AN ALBUM: 1. Ultramega OK-Every song is incredible, except "Mood for Trouble". Ooh, i hate that song. 2. Louder Than Love-God, this album is so powerful. The riffs just scream. 3. Superunknown-_The_ paragon of SG albums, as a whole. 4. Badmotorfinger-I think the album collapses after "Face Pollution". But, the first half, with Rusty Cage, Outshined, and JCP, more than makes up for that. 5. Down on the Upside-Don't get me wrong, I love this album. But each individual song doesn't have the power, like Badmotorfinger or Ultramega OK. This album is like Superunknown: you have to take the whole album together; then it's awesome 6. Screaming Life/Fopp-Fopp ruins a totally excellent Screaming Life "SCREAMING LIFE AND FOPP" SEPARATE 1. Ultramega OK 2. Louder Than Love 3. Superunknown 4. Badmotorfinger 5. Screaming Life 6. Down on the Upside 7. Fopp-3 covers out of 4 songs is not good. All these covers; it sounds like a freakin Collective Soul album (Ooh, that was rough, but it had to be said) Just MHO. So, what do you guys think? Vasant ****************************************************************************** The Refuge of the Damned http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html Lots of music, photos, links, and more! vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Re: Oasis are cool Let's end this thread here and now shall we? Thanks, Vince ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Screaming Trees/Soundgarden Upon learning of Soundgarden's involvement with the band Screaming Trees and how they apparently love them, I decided to go ahead and buy the Tree's cd "Sweet Oblivion". I haven't had a chance to really listen to it yet because I find myself listening to Down On The Upside almost every second of the day. Can someone point to me a great Screaming Trees web site and could someone give me any info on the band please? Thanks. At this local CD store, they are selling Ultramega Ok and Louder than Love for 8 bucks. I do not own either of these albums but I am debating whether or not I should get them. I listened to Louder than Love at a friend's house after purchasing Superunknown and I remember feeling disappointed. I have never listened to Ultramega Ok so I really dont't have any kind of opinion on it. Should I go ahead and get both of these Cds because they are Soundgarden? I mean, I really want to but I can't shake that disappointing feeling off of me. Has anyone checked out the new Raygun magazine featuring Soundgarden? - -Vincent ------------------------------ From: Gardena@aol.com Subject: RE:stop >>To pull that thread back into the original thought of this post--New >>fans or fans w/ small collections should be able to come to this list >>and ask "what should I buy next? What's worth spending money on?" >>Anyone agree, disagree or care to add to it? HERE HERE!! I have liked/been into Sg for like what since LTL? and I didnt really start my collection until right after SU.( vinyl,singles,bootlegs) I hope that if I ever have a question on what I should spend my ( HARD EARNED ) money on next, I don't get flamed for it because I ask a question!!! *** because I mentioned that I have liked SG since LTL makes me in no way a better fan or worse a fan than ANY OF YOU! NEW AND OLD ALIKE!( I was just trying to make a point, using time as a reference) besides no questions are to dumb to ask!!!!!!!!!unless of course they are 1. "what's the lyrics to big dumb sex"? 2. does Shroom REALLy think Chris's body is sexy? ( LAUGHS!!!!) WHITEOUT! Dena ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: Album Rankings On Wed, 29 May 1996, Vasant Ramamurthy wrote: > God, this is so very difficult. But, here goes: > > WITH "SCREAMING LIFE/FOPP" TOGETHER AS AN ALBUM: > > 1. Ultramega OK-Every song is incredible, except "Mood for Trouble". Ooh, i > hate that song. HA HA that is funny because my favourite song from that album is "Mood for Trouble", infact this album came last in my list. > 2. Louder Than Love-God, this album is so powerful. The riffs just scream. And so does Chris, especially in Power trip, can you tell the difference between Chris and the guitar at the start? > 3. Superunknown-_The_ paragon of SG albums, as a whole. > 4. Badmotorfinger-I think the album collapses after "Face Pollution". But, > the first half, with Rusty Cage, Outshined, and JCP, more than makes up for > that. Collapses? I used to think so but the songs grew on me, especially New Damage, Holy Water, Room a thousand Years Wide. > 5. Down on the Upside-Don't get me wrong, I love this album. But each > individual song doesn't have the power, like Badmotorfinger or Ultramega > OK. This album is like Superunknown: you have to take the whole album > together; then it's awesome > 6. Screaming Life/Fopp-Fopp ruins a totally excellent Screaming Life > Its great that we have such different Soundgarden tastes (almost opposite) but we still love Soundgarden, Diversity is great. > "SCREAMING LIFE AND FOPP" SEPARATE > > 1. Ultramega OK > 2. Louder Than Love > 3. Superunknown > 4. Badmotorfinger > 5. Screaming Life > 6. Down on the Upside > 7. Fopp-3 covers out of 4 songs is not good. All these covers; it sounds > like a freakin Collective Soul album (Ooh, that was rough, but it had to be > said) But the reccuring theme in FOPP is great :) > > Just MHO. So, what do you guys think? > > Vasant > > ****************************************************************************** > The Refuge of the Damned > http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html > Lots of music, photos, links, and more! > > vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu > "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins > **************************************************************************** > > > "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: Screaming Trees/Soundgarden On Wed, 29 May 1996, ADDC wrote: I also felt dissapointment after my first listen to Louder then Love but it gorws on you, a lot, Get it now. I don't like Ultramega Ok listen to it first, I taped it of a friend but never bought it. > > Upon learning of Soundgarden's involvement with the band Screaming Trees and > how they apparently love them, I decided to go ahead and buy the Tree's cd > "Sweet Oblivion". I haven't had a chance to really listen to it yet > because I find myself listening to Down On The Upside almost every second > of the day. Can someone point to me a great Screaming Trees web site and > could someone give me any info on the band please? Thanks. > > At this local CD store, they are selling Ultramega Ok and Louder than > Love for 8 bucks. I do not own either of these albums but I am debating > whether or not I should get them. I listened to Louder than Love at a > friend's house after purchasing Superunknown and I remember feeling > disappointed. I have never listened to Ultramega Ok so I really dont't > have any kind of opinion on it. Should I go ahead and get both of these > Cds because they are Soundgarden? I mean, I really want to but I can't shake > that disappointing feeling off of me. > > Has anyone checked out the new Raygun magazine featuring Soundgarden? > > -Vincent > "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 140] ****************************************