From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 27 May 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 27 May 1996 01:28:08 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 27 May 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: DOTU promo video ..... queries... Re: Photo, Kim's playing Re: SG Bandwagon question Don't be a dick... racism, bad reviews, and "newbie-moron" banter SG 24hr chat room Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell Re: Don't be a dick... Re: Tighter and Tighter Re: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell SG on mtv's sonic stew Re: Don't be a dick... stephen king buffs... i'm the dick Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell Re: something in "boot camp" switch is on... Re: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell Re: something in "boot camp" Re: Don't be a dick... Re: something in "boot camp" STuFF Oz video; digipak real world.... ever been here? Re: real world.... ever been here? mercurial mind the fire... least fav songs swinging from a window's ledge... Re: mercurial mind the fire... close your eyes and bow your head... Eat the Fruit She likes almost everything! SOMMS hybrid / Pretty Noose vinyl / 'Rockline' Re: SG Bandwagon ------------------------------------------------------------ From: redfive@ozonline.com.au (Hando) Subject: Re: DOTU promo video ..... queries... >>Upon further inspection, I found that the video was in fact a promo - >>only, plain labelled video compilation from Polygram Australia of >>SD's recent videos. It contains videos of: >> >> Pretty Noose ( the "concept" version ) >> ( you folks in the US seen this video yet?...Surely!!) >> Black Hole Sun >> My Wave >> Spoonman >> Jesus Christ Pose >> Pretty Noose ( the " performance " version - >> just the guys miming the song ) >> >>The videos in this order are all repeated three times on the tape. > Steven Russell jr asks: >you mean there are a total of 18 videos? Yes - the videos, in that order repeated 3 times - 18 videos. >Does the 'concept' version ending contain a woman lying in a bed...or is it >just Chris Cornell sitting at the foot of an empty bed? Towards the end of the ` concept ' video there's a shot of a woman lying in bed. The camera pans left and down to show Chris Cornell sitting at the foot of the bed. The video ends with a closeup shot of an eye with the SG logo fading in and out of the black part of the eye. ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Re: Photo, Kim's playing [edit] [review bit] > Again and again, these songs boil down to a guy who professes to hate >not only stardom but life in general: Pretty Noose, Zero Chance, Blow up the >Outside World, Never Named and many others display a one-note unfriendliness >and disgust with the world in general that, over more than an hour, grows >extremely tiresome. And when he's not raging that he'd like to either cut >himself off from or, literally, blow-up the outside world, he's asking (as on >Never Named and Burden in my Hand) for our pity. > As a result, despite a number of very good songs (among them Noose, >Tighter and Dusty) Down can't help but feel long-winded. Soundgarden is a >great-sounding band, no question, but at their core they too often offer just >a gray, static weariness of spirit. [end] > Chris... asking for our pity? HA!!! This guy obviously doesn't know >what in the hell he's talking about!! Chris... grouchy and vague? Well, >ok... maybe a little. But I think truthful and ambiguous are better words to >define him. Chris literally wanting to blow up the world? What kind of >drugs is this guy on? Nihilism at an arena level?? Someone hand me my gun. > Comments anyone? yeah, not wrong the guy has no idea what he is talking about :) grouchy...well I think we deserve to all be, I mean what does he want? The world does fairly suck most of the time, sometimes it's easier to just be grouchy :) I know I relate to Chris's lyrics more then I do to some happy pop Oasis or [insert other happy no thought lyrical band here] type of thing. Maybe it's not good to yell at the world in that way, but what the hell, it doesn't listen to much we do anyway. [I am happy most of the time too :) just don't like things that happen i the world] I think truthful is a good description, you can see the truth in alot of what Chris is saying, once you work out what he is depicting. > >"Stupid people should not breed!!!!!" ~Skatenigs :) Hey I agree with that one :) seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "Down on the Upside" by Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Re: SG Bandwagon [re jumping on bandwagon] >I had a similar thought, Deb. I wondered how people who jumped on >after SuperUnknown would like it (no offense to those on the list of >course because you seem to clearly like Soundgarden in all their >glory). I don't know, I think it's easier to get into then some of Superunk. I know it took only about 3 listens or so and I loved it. Most of the other SG albums have taken longer to get into. Could be just me having heard SG for so long now I just love whatever it is :) But as for bandwagon jumpers, I think Blow Up will be the biggest jump of all, it's another BHS waiting to happen. In some ways it is good, in most ways it is bad. We'll all see in a few months I guess. As for ppl jumping on after Superunk, I think it will depend if they like the earlier stuff, how much they'll like the new songs. All we can do is sit and watch the radio overplay songs again, but maybe just maybe it'll kick hootie off the radio, now that would be a good thing. seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "Down on the Upside" by Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: Chris Kreidl Subject: question This question is mainly directed to all the guitarists on the list, but if you know the answer, feel free to respond.... I was playing around today, and I just happened to play something like this: - ------------------------------- - --2---2---2---4b---4b---------- - ------------------------------- - ------------------------------- - ------------------------------- - ------------------------------- b=3Dbend I'm pretty sure this is part of a SG song, but I'm not sure which one, BTW, it's in standard tuning(the way I played it sounds right that way). If you know what this is, please tell me. Chris =7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F= =7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F =7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7FChris= Kreidl=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F =7F=7Fmembers.tripod.com/~GoatSniff=7F=7F=7F =7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7Fkreidl@newrock.com=7F=7F=7F= =7F=7F=7F=7F=7F =7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F= =7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F=7F ------------------------------ From: mansruin@sirius.com (Man's Ruin Inc.) Subject: Don't be a dick... I got up this morning and downloaded somms with my usual anticipatory pleasure.Its a fascinating daily read,and I enjoy it,and the usually thoughtful and energetic insights in it.There was apost from a new person,curious about learning more about SG earlier stuff,and showing some enthusiasm.Then,a few posts later there is a really snide reply...making fun of "the newbie".How fucking lame.Isn't the entire point of this site to learn more and enjoy the music of SG?I know it has given me new insights and has had me going back and re-listening to their music. So here is a person who actually gets up the nerve and energy to make an initial contact,and someone who THINKS THEY ARE BETTER treats them like shit.Now the poor guy is going to feel like a dork and either a:never inter-act again or b:get hostile themselves,which are both sad situations.Everyone was a "newbie" at something once...remember that.This new person should get an apology. Frank Kozik ------------------------------ From: Chris Mansfield Subject: racism, bad reviews, and "newbie-moron" banter dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) wrote (Sunday digest): >handle but yes they are other african american members of the list. It's >kind of interesting that I have always found that sg fans are the most >diverse in terms of ethnicity and musical tastes. That why I like sg >concerts the pacific northwest is just a tad on the racist side huh?! this individual has obviously never spent any time in the midwest, where i had the misfortune of being raised. i live in seattle now, and it is about the most laid back, accepting place i've been so far. but maybe this person does speak from experience. racism exists most everywhere; just toward different ethnic groups... >btw it's really a big deal that Eddie Vedder went to rodmans bday party. no it isn't. that's just the news media making a big deal of it. as soon as most of the PJ fans on the net found out that PJ didn't play a set none of them really gave a shit. :) someone else wrote the other day: >How do you think it's [DOTU] going to appeal to a non-Sg person? how do you define "non-Sg person?" judging from the way a few people here rip on anyone who hasn't listened to them since the beginning i would probably fit the description if that is the prevailing attitude here. i've known about SG since seeing the "Outshined" video right around the time Badmotorfinger came out, and liked them, but didn't buy a SG album until i picked up Superunknown in a used CD rack a few months after it came out. i didn't give a rip about "black hole sun" (that song seems to be the SG version of Pearl Jam's "Black" -- everybody and their mother is a SG fan after hearing it eh?); i got it because i listened to my roommate's copy a few times and "let me drown," "my wave," "spoonman," "superunknown" and "the day i tried to live" sucked me in. to answer the question (as a "non-Sg person"), i like DOTU. not as much as superunknown (which is a helluva lot) but that may change soon. as with any album i really love it will have to grow on me, as great albums have a tendency to do. i'm the biggest fuckin' Pearl Jam fan in the world but it took weeks before i was sucked in to each of their albums. same with soundgarden so far. i picked up louder than love a while back and didn't care for it but maybe it's time to give it another spin. and regarding dave ferman's review of DOTU, mattlaw@cogs.susx.ac.uk mentioned: >There are a lot of points he made which were pretty fair, but it wasn't fair to >criticise the lyrics just because they weren't in a style the reviewer appreciated and i agree completely with this assessment. i do think the guy missed the boat but i have to say that most of the overreactions on this list were every bit as funny as dave's "i don't get it" review. :) back in the good old days when reviewers and rock mags were few and far between those words may have meant something. but now?... the music journalism biz is flooded with way more people than is really needed, which means to stand out a person has to rip on a band in the most unique way their tiny mind can conjure up. really, who gives a shit what these people say. you know what you like. buy it. go to the shows and give these people (the non-musicians) the indifference they deserve already. to the digesters: sorry for the long post, but at least i didn't quote an entire three-page message in my reply. ;) :) Chris ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Raul Agrait) Subject: SG 24hr chat room am i the only one who goes here and checks to see if anyone's there??? the place has been empty 90% of the times i've checked?? the only people from the list..hell the only people who ive ever seen there are geoff and defsonic one time each. i dont think im the only one who craves for sg chat..but theres never anyone there. i was wondering maybe someone could set a time where some ppl could go there and chat...whatever. oh yeah a while back i heard that the JCP video was 'banned' from eMpTyV. does anyone know why?? i've never actually seen it, but they did show a clip from it last sun on 120 mins. - -Hasswipee Hasswipee's Home Page http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~rea49625/ ------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell Hey, I was watching a re-run of Real World 3 (3 is it? Its the one w/ Puck and Pedro, Racheal, Judd ect.) and Puck was talking to Racheal bout how he hates Pedro and all...It went like this: "I don't like his pompus attitude I don't care if he's on Opra Winfrey... I don't care if Chris Cornell is cool also, he's an asshole" It went kinda fast, but I'm almost positive he said it like that....And I always thought Puck was cool! :) I wonder what he's got against Chris? Dave ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: Don't be a dick... >This new person should get an apology. ok.... they at least had Louder than Love and some singles. Just remember, you don't go into a 400 hundred level college class w/o taking the earlier classes. ever go into a conversation blind and have people giving you the get-lost-stare? jerm, blah - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: Tighter and Tighter That song sounds a little bluesy...I like it. Dave ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell > Subject: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell > Hey, I was watching a re-run of Real World 3 (3 is it? Its the one w/ Puck and > Pedro, Racheal, Judd ect.) and Puck was talking to Racheal bout how he hates > Pedro and all...It went like this: > > "I don't like his pompus attitude > I don't care if he's on Opra Winfrey... > I don't care if Chris Cornell is cool also, > he's an asshole" > > It went kinda fast, but I'm almost positive he said it like that....And I > always thought Puck was cool! :) I wonder what he's got against Chris? > > ok... to quote a Hater song.. "who do i kill?" jerm, the lifelong antagonist - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: rea47935@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Raul Agrait) Subject: SG on mtv's sonic stew i dont know if you know about this..but here is what i found at mtv's website, a review of dotu under the sonic stew section at: http://mtv.com/music/stew/ss01.html With Nirvana gone and Pearl Jam holding out on us until later this summer at the earliest, the burden falls to the final member of the Seattle triumvirate to slake the grunge-thirsty masses. At this point, most sane band's toes curl under at the slightest hint of being classified as grunge, but Soundgarden was a reluctant member of the tribe even back in the day. And rightfully so--beyond their fear of a flannel planet, Soundgarden's music always went down more like molten metal than bitter acid. Perhaps as a way to affirm their roots, Soundgarden opted to produce this record themselves, and Down On The Upside noodles and sludges and wails in ways more reminiscent of those Soundgarden is frequently compared to, like Black Sabbath and Led Zeppelin. And, like the great works of those bands, this record is meant to be consumed whole, not bit by delicious bit. We'd lay our bets on "Burden In My Hand" or "Boot Camp" as the second single. there is also a really cool morphing picture thing there if you guys want to check it out. sorry for the long post - -Hasswipee Hasswipee's Home Page http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~rea49625/ ------------------------------ From: Glenn Subject: Re: Don't be a dick... Don't be a dick is right. I think the "ripping" of the "newbie" in question WAS totally unjustified. Unfortunately, it happens too often on this list. I hopped on board the Soundgarden bus (so to speak) back when Badmotorfinger was released. I hadn't heard "Rusty Cage". I'd heard "Outshined" and didn't care for it (which I still don't...). A friend, however, had recommended the album to me, so I bought it. Please, slap me on the wrists, someone. I was bad. I jumped on the bandwagon. Eeek. {dripping with sarcasm} Yes, I also became a certified HOOKED SG fan with the release of Superunknown, simply because of the sheer power of the material on it. I went looking for more material, found it, and I now own Louder Than Love. I'd own more, but I'm poor. :) NOW, my point (I did have one) is this: this newcomer is me, a few years ago. I looked for more Soundgarden stuff, and I found it. This is exactly what this guy was doing, before he was needlessly beaten to a pulp by a rude, thoughtless post. Yeah, there's a FAQ. But, like many others here, ON THE LIST, I didn't read the damn thing until 2 months after joining SOMMS. So why thrash someone for asking something? Wouldn't it take a hell of a lot less energy to simply answer it? It would also take a lot more TACT. I sincerely hope that the "newbie" posts again. I know that after such an outburst, I might have been frightened away, but I wasn't, and I've since become what I hope is a valued member of the list. In the meantime, best wishes to all SOMMSers. Long live free speech and human decency. Take care everybody, Glenn aka "The Dark Man" ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: stephen king buffs... the phrase "hot rod death toll" reminds me of the book/movie christine, if anyone's ever seen or read it.. it's this car that is restored (a hot rod) and a bunch of fartknockers trash it, and then the car runs every one of them over by itself... and it just keeps killing people, and well, it's a hot rod.. hence the "hot rod death toll" connection.. oh well, my point is i think that certain part of the song could have been influenced by that book. blah. - -champagne. ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: i'm the dick ok people.... and all those that hate me.. which seems to be a growing member (devious conotations there). I AM THE DICK!!!! so, if you would like to flame, flame ME, don't post ambigious flames to the list, cause i'm sure the other 300 people DON'T CARE!! Don't worry about offending me, cause you won't. I'm secure enough with myself that words that someone sends to me won't hurt my tender little ego. so peoplez, lets take care of this before an all out flame-war unites. thanks, the jerm - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell DA>Hey, I was watching a re-run of Real World 3 (3 is it? Its the one w/ Puck a DA>Pedro, Racheal, Judd ect.) and Puck was talking to Racheal bout how he hates DA>Pedro and all...It went like this: DA>"I don't like his pompus attitude DA>I don't care if he's on Opra Winfrey... DA> I don't care if Chris Cornell is cool also, DA>he's an asshole" DA>It went kinda fast, but I'm almost positive he said it like that....And I DA>always thought Puck was cool! :) I wonder what he's got against Chris? I never understood what he meant by that... Cause earlier in that episode he's talking about Pedro and Pedro's boyfriend and he says "I wonder if they have Loud Love." So Puck LIKES Soundgarden. I'm mystified about that one comment though.. - -Champagne. ------------------------------ From: B Rogers Subject: Re: something in "boot camp" I was just going to post about that before for I read this. Hw says something? before Chris starts singing. I think you need headphones to hear it well. Thanks. B Rogers On Sun, 26 May 1996, Limo Wreck wrote: > i was listening to "boot camp" through big-ass head phones and I noticed > something at the beginning... > > about 30 or so seconds into it (at the first big cymbal crash), there is an > underlying dub. It sounds like the guy from the "big dumb sex" edit version > that says "be a nice person, take your vitamins...... go out and sleep with > whoever they want, kill your parents." BUT, I could't make out to much because > the dub wasn't recorded loud at all. So... i think he's saying something like > "children should obey their parents.... stay in school".... or something along > those lines. Some more info sommites? > > jerm, the bored one > > -- > > Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod > j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu > http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html > > "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. > i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air > and everyone a different shade of you" > - "suicide machine", by Hum > ------------------------------ From: Outshined@aol.com Subject: switch is on... >my least favorite now is switch opens. its just too fucking UN-soundgarden >for me to get into yet. wow... I really like "Switch Opens"... great lyrics, love the imagery... sounds like a song demo, with the way the band is kind of playing around before the song kicks in... my least fave is, and I'll probably take some heat for this, "Zero Chance". I don't know. I don't really like the way Chris sings it, and the music is sorta average. The occassional drumrolls are, to me, annoying... I think Zero Chance is less-SG (if there is such a thing) than Switch Opens... ------------------------------ From: Stella Rogers Subject: Re: Puck on the Real World; Chris Cornell At 03:38 PM 5/26/96 -0500, you wrote: >I never understood what he meant by that... Cause earlier in that >episode he's talking about Pedro and Pedro's boyfriend and he says "I >wonder if they have Loud Love." So Puck LIKES Soundgarden. I'm >mystified about that one comment though.. > >-Champagne. > > > I haven't seen that episode that ya'll are talkin about but just a guess..maybe he wasn't talking about "loud love" the album but was referring to um *something else*. What that is...well just use your imagination ;-) srogers ------------------------------ From: Stella Rogers Subject: Re: something in "boot camp" >On Sun, 26 May 1996, Limo Wreck >wrote: > >> i was listening to "boot camp" through big-ass head phones and I noticed >> something at the beginning... >> >> about 30 or so seconds into it (at the first big cymbal crash), there is an >> underlying dub. It sounds like the guy from the "big dumb sex" edit version >> that says "be a nice person, take your vitamins...... go out and sleep with >> whoever they want, kill your parents." BUT, I could't make out to much because >> the dub wasn't recorded loud at all. So... i think he's saying something like >> "children should obey their parents.... stay in school".... or something along >> those lines. Some more info sommites? > Didnt someone on this list say that that was something like Ross Perot talking about the U.S Budget? Or was that for another song? Or am I just totally tripping and making the whole thing up? srogers ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: Don't be a dick... I completely agree. I, too, think an apology is in order. Geoff ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: something in "boot camp" > i was listening to "boot camp" through big-ass head phones and I noticed >something at the beginning... > > about 30 or so seconds into it (at the first big cymbal crash), there is >an underlying dub. It sounds like the guy from the "big dumb sex" edit >version that says "be a nice person, take your vitamins...... go out and >sleep with whoever they want, kill your parents." BUT, I could't make >out to much because the dub wasn't recorded loud at all. So... i think >he's saying something like "children should obey their parents.... stay >in school".... or something along those lines. Some more info sommites? Ummm... I listened, and what I got out of it was this: "Shroom... you know you want my sexy body. You know you want to talk about my sexy body on the list. You know that when you meet me, you're going to have to jump on me..." SEE!!! I TOLD you people that Chris was sending me subliminal messages in his music!! Proof!! We've finally got proof!! Heheheh... Shroom "Damn, but that Shroom girl is one sexy babe!!" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: STuFF >the phrase "hot rod death toll" reminds me of the book/movie christine, >if anyone's ever seen or read it.. > >well, it's a hot rod.. hence the "hot rod death toll" connection.. Ummmm... that's pretty cool, but I always think of Ministry when I hear the lyrics "hot rod death toll". "Jesus built my car. It's a love affair. Mainly Jesus, and my hot rod." >oh yeah a while back i heard that the JCP video was 'banned' from eMpTyV. >does anyone know why?? Excellent video!! I heard MTV banned it 'cuz they didn't like the imagery. A chic on a cross... big no-no considering the majority of their viewers are drones who all dress like they've got roles on Melrose Place and think that Hootie is deep music. Can't upset their perfect and fake little worlds, y'know. >Long live free speech Amen brother {insert name of whoever posted that}... >and human decency. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Please, slap me on the wrists, someone. I was bad. I jumped on >the bandwagon. Eeek. {dripping with sarcasm} Eeek? Haven't you heard? Slapping on the wrists is passe on the bandwagon. How about we just run you over with a bulldozer a few dozen times, instead? =) >Don't worry about offending me, cause you won't. I'm secure enough >with myself that words that someone sends to me won't hurt my >tender little ego. OK... my turn. Here's my opinion on the whole newbie thing: Yah, Jerm really shouldn't have dissed on that person for asking stupid questions (Jerm, don't you know that it's not the SOCIALLY CORRECT thing to do? Heheheh). But on the other hand, I can't help but share Jerm's frustration. Yah, ignoring those posts is the best thing to do... but just like with BMF and Superunknown... there's going to be a huge influx of newbies ALL with the same questions (of course, we actually got to smack them around before, 'cuz we didn't have this list). Hey... can't us old-time SG freaks be smug? The old-time listers are certainly allowed to be. Ooooh... now that was low Shroom (bad bad fungi). Forgive me people... I have a killer hangover (good excuse). Anyway... for those of us with short attention spans... reading the same posts over and over and over again SUCKS. Ummm... unless they've got Chris' sexy body in them. That would certainly keep MY attention (like you people didn't already know that). Yah, I know... "you'll never know unless you ask". Spare me the cliches, I'm already in pain. Don't worry... I'll be a good little Shroom and delete all the posts I don't like, just as before... and I'll try not to comment on it anymore. Anyway... I know I'm *fully* babbling now, so I'm going to go and try not to be hungover anymore. Just thought I'd torture you people with my stand on all this crap. You're all so very welcome. Flame if you must. To quote some comedian: "If I've managed to offend anyone here tonight... How 'bout that!!" Thank yew and goodnight. Shroom "How many times do I have to say that I know that way one day I looked up now I don't want to spend another day looking back 'cause I've learned and it might not make much sense that all I have to say is all I have to say and that is all." ~ Deconstruction ------------------------------ From: Scott Molenkamp Subject: Oz video; digipak >Can anyone else from Australia verify the Polygram video promo? Is >here really 18 videos? (3 of each?) Yeah this video does exist and I have a copy. It was put out by polygram as a promotional thingy. However I was pretty pissed off cause the advertisment by the record store in a local street mag said it was an "80 minute" video. So having already bought the digipak on the day it was released I now have 2 copies of the LP and 3 copies of all the videos I already had on tape. So much for thinking that in the 80 minutes I would get something great. Sidenote: As far as digipaks go in terms of quality the Oz one is pretty lame. Digipaks are supposed to be special, and this one is just different, not special. No extra art or anything. C-ya [-----------------+----------------------------------+----------------] [ "Like what you | Scott Molenkamp | don't get ] [ get, If you | thrael@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au | what you like" ] [-----------------+----------------------------------+----------------] [ BUMPER STICKER OF THE YEAR:If you can see this I've lost my caravan ] [evenrailscreamfeederammoniapowderfingersidewinderholdencaulfieldglide] ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: real world.... ever been here? ok.. something is starting to annoy and disturb me on this list. As often as you people say you dislike eMpTyV, you could go on and on about "the real world". Why is this.... have some of you found nothing better to do at night than to watch "real world" re-runs? And you actually remember if you have seen certain episode or not... gimme a break. thats right all you sommites, i'm gettin a bit more vocal, and it feels good. "bow down before the one you serve, your going to get what you deserve" - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: real world.... ever been here? > > Yeah, you're right. It's far cooler to go through the 7000 or so hits > that Alta Vista gives for 'soundgarden' on Saturday night, isn't it? > damn straight.... you run over all kinds of things.. like the dumbfucks that have links to Soundgarden AND Green Day (flame away) on the SAME PAGE. oh yeah, i ran across a Taco Bell Net page. Its like a net fan club for Taco Bell. Even has some early stories about the Ramones at at Taco Bell. And this other Soundgarden page at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden. Seth, you may want to check this page out. Its pretty cool. Has lyrics, audio stuff, Soundgarden history. And it even looks good too.... check it out :) jerm - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: mercurial mind the fire... On Fri, 24 May 1996, R. Maney wrote: > while the record is still in its infancy, lets get a list of LEAST > favorite songs at this point. then, over time, we can see how they least favourite is a good way to put it, because I wouldn't want to write off any songs at this early juncture, and then look like a fool when that song becomes mine and eveybody's favourite :) my least favourite at the moment is definitely no attention. I don't really like it till it slows down towards the end, and where chris' voice starts going through the filter. but maybe that is because I've been listening to no attention of the selfpollution broadcast for *far* too long? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: least fav songs well... i'll just continue this jewel of a thread. So far my least favorite songs on DotU are... none. I love every song on there. BUT.. i do have an axe to grind.... the only album I can't listen to all the way through w/o skipping songs is "superunknown" I usually start it with "fell on" (i.e. i skip the first 2 songs) and i usually skip "spoonman".... i just don't like those songs. jerm - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: swinging from a window's ledge... On 25 May 1996 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > I would have to agree. The solo on Tighter & Tighter is kinda like the > one on Rhinosaur, just not quite as fast (I think, unless I'm getting do you really think so? for me, those two solos are the most opposite on the whole record (ie. the best and the least best). the rhinosaur one, which still doesn't really grab me, is a big play-fast break, without much (imho) kim's normal 'tonal-emotion' (I just made that horrible phrase up. where do I pick up my music journalist's certificate?). as for tighter's solo, I can't think of a sg solo I like more. it kicks my ass every time I hear it. kim puts *so* much emotion into it, I can see his face contorting. *that* leadbreak comes from recording the album yourself, and trying to have fun while doing it, because I can't remember anything that good off bmf or superunk. also, kim, ben and matt are so tight (pun possibly intended) that it makes me wonder how other bands can even bother to get out of bed and record :) btw seth, the lyrics for burden on our page are wrong. the line is 'follow me into the desert'. I know its a typo, but after all, I am the blight of you all :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Glenn Subject: Re: mercurial mind the fire... I'm with Blind Dog on the least favourite song thread. I've never liked "No Attention". I don't know why... it's just never done anything for me. I'll offer "Zero Chance" or "Tighter & Tighter" as my fav, though... But damn.. "Rhinosaur" grows on ya by leaps and bounds... :) Take care, Glenn ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: close your eyes and bow your head... On Sun, 26 May 1996, Glenn wrote: > I hopped on board the Soundgarden bus (so to speak) back when Badmotorfinger was > released. I hadn't heard "Rusty Cage". I'd heard "Outshined" and didn't care > Please, slap me on the wrists, someone. I was bad. I jumped on the bandwagon. > Eeek. {dripping with sarcasm} jumping on the bus is just fine and dandy glenn. it's jumping on and off that irks me (does anyone care?). its cool if you get into a band relatively 'later' than other music lovers. I myself am just getting onto the strains of tool and veruca salt. I only started listening to soundgarden in 1992 when the bassist in our incredibly short-lived band lent me badmotorfinger, and now I am absolutely hooked. and now you have gone on to explore their earlier albums (I recently bought ultramega), which is more than cool. it shows that you are taking an interest. and thus the distinction is made between people who are genuinely interested in buying albums and actually *hearing* music, and the people who watch mtv religiously, buy all the latest hootie (hootchie?) and green day singles and jump on every bandwagon in sight as soon as some dinky song makes the charts. > outburst, I might have been frightened away, but I wasn't, and I've since become > what I hope is a valued member of the list. hoping not to sound to gushy, but you are glenn. and to that guy who got blasted for not knowing everything, my advice is to just go out and buy the albums. you will not be let down. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Eat the Fruit > From: caryn rose > Subject: PN and biblical stuff... > > "eat the fruit > and kiss the snake goodnight" > > okay, my question is, who is he talking to/about? I think that, although the reference is biblical, that the statement itself is sexual. Eat the fruit - make love(or whatever sexual act you want to insert, no pun intended) and kiss the snake goodnight - literally, kiss the tempter (is that a word) goodnight when you're done. This whole song strikes me as being about a sexual temptation that is seen as a mistake to follow through with. Well, that's what I think. Kathie ------------------------------ Subject: She likes almost everything! From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) The only song on DOTU I would even remotely think about skipping is never named. Actually I also have to skip Ty Cobb on occasion. Once again Mr. Cornell has made it difficult for those of us with kids. Be just great to have the 5 year old singin "hard headed fuck you all" at Sunday dinner with Grandma!! (even though at some of those family things you feel like saying that!!) But I do love the song! I also like tighter&tighter and Burden in my hand. That's at this given moment. Things change on a daily basis! Toni ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: SOMMS hybrid / Pretty Noose vinyl / 'Rockline' SOMMS Owners: Thanks to everyone that commented on my alleged hybrid copy of Bmf/SOMMS all though I'm now even more confused than ever (c: SOOOOO, everyone on the list (well, everyone that cares to participate) that has SOMMS tell me if your second disc has this printed on it under the track listing: 'For Promotional Use Only - Not For Sale'... then some more stuff. vinyl collectors: Now for the official count of the Pretty Noose 45s from SOMMs listers. This is sorta depressing (c: seth 2154 (saperl@MIT.EDU) Dena 2502 (Gardena@aol.com) seth 2807 (saperl@MIT.EDU) ray 4626 (UnknMan@aol.com) We've found 4 of 5000 (c: If anyone else out there knows of the whereabouts of one the other 4996 copies of the 7" contact me (UnknMan@aol.com) & please include the record's details (serial number). Thank you for your cooperation. (my impression of a Federal Bureau of Investigation officer) (c: Seattle-band fans: Tomorrow evening (Monday, 27 May 1996) Rockline will feature guests Jerry Cantrell of Alice in Chains & Mike McCready of Pearl Jam. They each worked on the soundtrack for Jim Carrey's up & coming Summer comedy 'The Cable Guy.' Sorry, not quite Sg-related but *Seattle* related & I've seen Jerry, Mike & Jim all with at least one member of Sg in my life so there! (c: everyone that reads this: Hey! Howzagoin? No need to answer that question unless you REALLY wanna. (c: ray ------------------------------ From: asbis1@student.monash.edu.au Subject: Re: SG Bandwagon Date sent: Sat, 25 May 1996 14:14:52 -0600 From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: SG Bandwagon To: Soundgarden Mailing List > Not os long ago there were those who were in a bunch thinking aobut new > fans jumping on the Sg bandwagon. From my p.o.v. after lsitening to > DOTU, we aren't going to have to worry about that. This is a pure Sg > album. Pure Sg which may only appeal to those already into Sg. Does > anyone else have any reactions to the album in THAT aspect? How do > you think it's going to appeal to a non-Sg person? >I had a similar thought, Deb. I wondered how people who jumped on >after SuperUnknown would like it (no offense to those on the list of >course because you seem to clearly like Soundgarden in all their >glory). I jumped on the bandwagon after the Superunknown and so did most of my mates. After buying SuperUnknown just because I liked Black Hole Sun and constant listening to the album I began to like every song on the album. Then I was at the markets after a few month of the release of SuperUnknown in Australia and I bought some of the old live sg CD's. They are great but poor quality. I bought DOTU last monday (the first day it was released in Australia) and couldn't stop playing it in my car, at home and at Uni. I thought it was shit hot, however not as cool as the old stuff. I think most people who jumped on the bandwagon after SuperUnknown will enjoy DOTU. I heard sg is coming to Australia in September, can anyone confirm this?? scratch ya Biz ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 137] ****************************************