From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 25 May 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 25 May 1996 03:11:01 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 25 May 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: rhinosaur Re: Finallyfinally!!! Re: Anyone Listenin'? rhinosaur Re: on the subject of lolla... Re: the skulls beneath my feet... My $0.02 on DOTU Boot Camp Revisited Greg Gilmore I hear the wagon coming........ Finallyfinally!!! LOOKING FOR SOUNDGARDEN REVIEW the skulls beneath my feet... Re: Pretty Tunings... new pics/links.. seth :) Re: new pics/links.. seth :) ? AAAUUGGGHHH!!! Bad review!! Re: AAAUUGGGHHH!!! Bad review!! Re: with a swarm of motorflys... Re: Photo, Kim's playing hello! whos greg gilmore? Re: hello! SOMMS questions / Pretty Noose V-I-N-Y-L 45 PN and biblical stuff... Spoonman Creations Re: rhinosaur T-shirt desparation Re: AAAUUGGGHHH!!! Bad review!! satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas DOTU digipak Comments on DOTU; Digipaks An amazing week of Soundgarden! Tighter and Tighter more web stuff Re: DOTU digipak ------------------------------------------------------------ From: SIVVY Subject: Re: rhinosaur At 12:34 AM 24/05/96 -0700, you wrote: > >damn, when i heard this song on the 1800 phone line it was my favorite, i >had no idea it would catch so much shit from the list!! i think its great, >one of the best songs on the record. i love the solo too. i think it fits >just damn fine thank you. what exactly defines whether something doesnt >"fit" or not anyway. if you listen to something enough it all begins to >"fit". > >while the record is still in its infancy, lets get a list of LEAST >favorite songs at this point. then, over time, we can see how they >change.... > >my least favorite now is switch opens. its just too fucking UN-soundgarden >for me to get into yet. > >todd > > > > > > What do you think about the title ? I think it definitely come from Soundgardenland. ------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: Re: Finallyfinally!!! >1. Chris has THE most incredible voice, and he never ceases to amaze me again >and again, every time I hear him live. > > MY GOD WHAT A BIG NEWS !!!!!!!!!!! :) :) ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: Anyone Listenin'? Greatest songs album shit this will be hard. First things first: 1 Jesus Christ Pose 11 Slaves and Bulldozers 2 4th of July 12 Cold Bitch 3 Outshined 13 Applebite (especially when stoned) 4 Blow up the outside World 14 Hands all over 5 Fell on Black Days 15 Overfloater 6 Superunknown 16 tighter & tighter 7 Let it Drown 17 An Unkind 8 Limo Wreck 18 Mailman 9 The day i tried to live 19 Room a Thousand years wide 10 Burden in my hand 20 Fopp/Big Dumb Sex(either for fun element) It wasn't as hard as i thought it would be, now if it could only be 10 songs... Today i'm listening to these albums in order: Badmotorfinger Superunknown Down on the Upside Who needs drugs PS I DO! "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ From: "R. Maney" Subject: rhinosaur damn, when i heard this song on the 1800 phone line it was my favorite, i had no idea it would catch so much shit from the list!! i think its great, one of the best songs on the record. i love the solo too. i think it fits just damn fine thank you. what exactly defines whether something doesnt "fit" or not anyway. if you listen to something enough it all begins to "fit". while the record is still in its infancy, lets get a list of LEAST favorite songs at this point. then, over time, we can see how they change.... my least favorite now is switch opens. its just too fucking UN-soundgarden for me to get into yet. todd ------------------------------ From: Aleko Subject: Re: on the subject of lolla... Whats wrong with horny underage Metallica fans :) Well I'm 21 a Metallica fan, male, and as horny as the normal guy i guess (I don't grope girls in the moshpit though, not intentionaly anyway). I could see Metallica playing the Australian festivals, Alternative Nation probably, cause of the time frame. You Americans complaining when you can see Metallica and Soundgarden together, plus more. I stay overnight to see local bands (Naiad, usually at Wollongong for Australians), okay the ticket is between $0-8 but you still have it good. "Happiness is not for us to find but for us to search for" ------------------------------ Subject: Re: the skulls beneath my feet... From: "Matthew Lawrence" > > Actually Rhinosaur heavily reminds me of a Black Sabbath riff. Something > in Paranoid perhaps? I could be wrong about the song, but definitely > Sabbath. And for all those hair-farmer guys that say the Kim can't play > technical and fast, well here's your one solo. Serious wah-wah in that too! > Geoff > Yep, I wasn't going to point that out, but it's part of the bassline for Paranoid.. Probably not the same key, but definitely the same. That's the first thing I thought, cause I was listening to Paranoid in the pub the night before... Matt ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: My $0.02 on DOTU I got my copy of DOTU on Tuesday (I don't have a record player anymore, so aside from the collector angle, the vinly would have done me no good), and I think it's time to throw in my two cents on the album. First off, I think it's an excellent album. I agree that BUTOW will probably be the next BHS (it's already in heavy rotation on one of the radio stations in Baltimore), but don't knock it for that. It's a great piece of work. Anyway, early favs from the new album are Dusty, Ty Cobb, Never the Machine..., and (yes) Rhinosaur. Oh yeah, BUTOW too. But... maybe I bought into the early rumors too much, especially the one where they said the album would be less polished than Superunknown. Far from it, DOTU is probably the most refined, most melodic, and definitely most eloquent album they've put out. The album keeps leaving me with the feeling that "It's not BMF". I mean, the new album just doesn't have that "in your face" intensity that some of the earlier work had. Ty Cobb comes close, but a good listen to the progression of Slaves and Bulldozers, JCP, and Face Pollution can leave me foaming at the mouth. I guess I really had my hope set on that kind of an album... Don't get me wrong, I do like the album a lot. It's been in my CD player all week. If a guy "only" hits 45 home runs this season, you don't criticize him just because he hit 55 last year. KNow what I mean? Greg p.s. Almost forgot... anybody else think Zero Chance sounds like a TOTD piece? Not just the way Chris sings, even the guitar has shades of Mike McCready. Maybe it's just me... ------------------------------ From: mmholliday@attmail.com (Michael M Holliday) Subject: Boot Camp Revisited It's been interesting to read the responses to my original message about Boot Camp. For such a short song, it really sparked a lot of emotion/dicsussion. My personal interpretation about the meaning of the song is that the Boot Camp represents life. Things are very regulated, you have to 'obey the rules', 'stay on the ground', etc. When Chris refers to 'something good, far away', I feel he means heaven. Someone suggested that the Boot Camp represented heaven, but I think that heaven is what he is looking towards. In general, I think that this song is the antithesis of The Day I Tried to Live. In an interview, Chris indicated that TDITTL was about not being introverted, and forcing himself to go out and live life, etc., making it a very optimistic song. Boot Camp seems to take the opposite view. The world is a negative, controlling place, and the only hope for freedom is 'far away from here.' I might be really reaching, but this might be relating to Kurt's suicide. The song contrasts the controlling society with the desire for freedom, and ends abruptly, like a life cut short... On a lighter note, with regards to the discussion on Rhinosaur, at first I liked the song, especially the drumline, but was kind of neutral on the solo. I thought it was a bit too raunchy, but definitely showed Kim's style. After listening a few times, it started to grow on me. In response to all the critics, I'd say listen to Your Saviour on TOTD, which album everyone almost universally praises. I definitely see a resemblance between the solos. I also think that the drum riff on Rhinosaur is fantastic; it's deceptively simple. There's actually quite a lot going on, especially on the snare. Lyrically, I think Chris does an excellent job, as usual. The imagery he creates is great. Javdoctor ------------------------------ From: Grant Asher Subject: Greg Gilmore Who is Greg Gilmore? He's credited on the DOTU lyrics booklet as Kim's inspiration for Never the machine forever. Fave Three songs on DOTU so far (subject to rapid change): 1. Tighter and tighter 2. Blow up the outside world 3. Boot camp Grant Asher P.S. Are there any British sommsters out there who are going to T in the Park this summer? ------------------------------ Subject: I hear the wagon coming........ From: tonerkin@usa.pipeline.com (Tonerkin) I've got a feeling we are going to be having some company soon!! This morning in the grocery store I picked up the dreaded People magazine to see if they reviewed DOTU. And yes, they did. I won't type the whole thing here but just a quote or two. Frist senentence: "Imagine the Beatles in plaid flannel and nose rings, and you get some sense of what this latest, and finest , Soundgarden disc sounds like." "Thunderous guitar crunches and lead singer Chris Cornell's soaring vocals get your heart pounding, but there is always an irresistble melodic hook that makes the volume enticing rather than distancing." "Likewise, the lyrics are more personal and compelling than in the past " There are two other references to the Beatles in the short review. If that won't load a few up on the wagon I'll be suprised. Hell, might even get a few "ancient ones" like myself. If the next issue has a story on Chris and Susan, "rock couple of the year"complete with pix of them and their poms, I may throw up!!! Seth, now is the time to start with your money making scheme. 10 bucks to join the list!! $.02 to post each time!!! Oh course a grandfather clause will be in effect for the oldtimers. Toni BTW the picture with the review is down right people friendly!! Chris is smiling (appears to be a smile same with Kim) and I do believe that is sort of a smile on Ben well it's not a scowl let's put it that way! ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Finallyfinally!!! I FINALLY got to see Saturday Night Live with SG last night!!! I have two things to say... 1. Chris has THE most incredible voice, and he never ceases to amaze me again and again, every time I hear him live. 2. I wish (oh how I wish) I could have been that microphone that Chris was using. Attention people who've been writing me: Sorry, but I've fallen behind in my correspondence AGAIN (damn me straight to hell). I promise I'll write everyone back ASAP. (Chris Cornell is indeed a God). Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell | |.| |.| |\./| "She drinkin' my JackDaniels |\./| and smokin' all my weed" .\ |\./| /. ~~Andy Wood, MLB \-.\ |\\.//| /.-/ \--./\ |\\.//| /\.--/ \--.| \ |\\.//| / |.--/ \---.|\ |\./| /|.---/ \--.|\ |\./| /|.--/ \ .\ |.| /. / _ -_- \ \\ // / -_- _ - -/_/_/- | | -\_\_\- - /_\ ------------------------------ From: rockhds@giga.com (Anja =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gonz=E1lez?= Griessmeyer) Subject: LOOKING FOR SOUNDGARDEN REVIEW HI TO EVERYONE! I just got into the mailing list a few days ago, and as I've been reading I noticed that there are a some of you out there that are going to see Soundgarden at Lollapalooza... since I'm editing an independent rock magazine here in Mexico called Rockheads I was wondering if anyone of you would like to write a review of the Soundgarden show... for further information you can e-mail me at rockhds@giga.com. Hope to hear from you soon! Anja rockhds@giga.com "Alive In The Superunknown" ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: the skulls beneath my feet... S3> overall, rhinosaur is not the best song on the record, but it is S3>certainly not the worst. So far, I don't think there is a worst song on this album. Nothingman -Everytime I listen I love another one. ------------------------------ From: dcy1@cornell.edu (Icarus) Subject: Re: Pretty Tunings... The gauge of your string shouldn't matter all that much. It is you action is you are getting buzzing. Even so, if you plan to experiment and do funky tunings, you should be using light strings. Otherwise you'll damage your neck. yu _________________________________________ She keeps sliding on down the alley like butter dripping off a hot biscuit ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: new pics/links.. seth :) the Concrete page has a bit on Soundgarden (everyone ever hear of this band?).They have a nice little picture of the guys, and some audio schtuff. http://ns.webb.com/concrete/soundgar.html - -------------------------------------------------------------------- and another nice little picture i found on da 'net. http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/PICS/sm-Soundgarden96.gif thats all for now. jerm - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ Subject: Re: new pics/links.. seth :) From: seth > the Concrete page has a bit on Soundgarden (everyone ever hear of this > band?).They have a nice little picture of the guys, and some audio schtuff. > > http://ns.webb.com/concrete/soundgar.html Hmm... this "article" on Soundgarden looks suspiciously like the UK press release (www.sgi.net/soundgarden/misc/dotu_pr.html) for Down On The Upside. > and another nice little picture i found on da 'net. > > http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/PICS/sm-Soundgarden96.gif Yep, the picture that goes along with the ATN article that Caryn posted yesterday. It's too bad ATN didn't provide a link to a larger version of the image like they sometimes do. seth ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: ? Sommites, Wasn't kyle petty son of Richard supposed to be on this album? Also where are Kristin and Karoke? Anyway methinks another somms is in the works. Anyway I am really starting to love this album, It has been moved into that category of great sg albums, although I think that for the time being I like superunknown better when an album has 3 of your favorite songs bar none on it it's hard to pick it's successor. However now that I have fallen in love with overfloater it's right up there with bmf and superunk. Anyway I have to disagree with Blind Dog(another great song) that this album will be more successful then superunk, dusty for example has inho two distinct parts that fit together extremely well. But I think the teeny boppers will lose interest because of it. It's just so dark and beautiful I just don't see legions of teeny boppers bobbing there heads to it. I haven't seen PN in heavy MTV rotation yet, so I just don't see it. I can see the album debutinh high and then dropping off but not alot of singles success. Look at the rage album it debuted at #1 and now it's no longer on the album chart. Basically all the loyal fans bought when it came out, and that was it. The same thing will probably happen with dotu, as for the whole lawsuit thing, theres probably in all likelyhood (sp?) more too it then meets the eye. If sg was really being petty, it would have been all over the news by now. I wouldn't be suprised if A&M or there management was involved. They have so much control over there music you have to expect things like this. I mean they gave a single to the sup pop single of the month club when ben joined I am sure A&M loved that but since they own complete rights to all there songs what could they do. In any rate I wouldn't worry about it. Clown ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: AAAUUGGGHHH!!! Bad review!! Ok, that's it. I HATE Dave Ferman. He's such an asshole when it comes to music that he doesn't understand. I think he's slammed EVERY one of my favorite bands, but this time the sperm-burping gutter-whore has gone TOO far. (Please pardon my insults... I'm really fucking pissed). This review was in the Fort Worth Star-Telegram. I can't believe what he says about Chris!!! AAAUUGGGHHHH!!! Read on: - ------------------------------------------------------ Soundgarden: Down on the Upside Great sound, lousy lyrics. By: Dave Ferman After years of making mediocre records that were at once tinny AND muddy, Soundgarden (on 1994's Superunknown and the just-released Down on the Upside) finally jelled as a unit in the studio. The result is that now they have a sound (Chris Cornell's powerful bellow atop buzzing, crisply crashing guitars and a rumbling bass-and-drums bottom) that is unique, instantly identifiable and reminiscent of the sort of earthy, no-frills, psychelelic-tinged metal of early Led Zeppelin. And working in tandem with this sound are the lyrics, which are most often by Cornell and always have a pessimistic, angry, confrontational tone. It's within the combination of this sound and viewpoint that the band becomes what thousands of disaffected but cynical kids want: Nihilism that comes across at the arena level. And in doing so, Soundgarden just may have finally transformed itself intot the perfect '90s hard-rock band. Musically, the 16-track, 65-minute Down is a near-total triumph: The artfully layered guitars and hard but lean crunch of songs such as Ty Cobb (perhaps the first punk song with mandolins), Rhinosaur and the six-minute-plus Tighter & Tighter (with obvious nods to Zeppelin songs such as Out on the Tiles, Dazed and Confused and Tangerine) have an easy command of a wide range of dynamics extremely rare in modern hard rock. But then, of course, there's the message behind it all, and that's where Down stumbles. Badly. Cornell wrote they lyrics to all but one of the songs here and, as on past CD's, his shortcomings are quickly evident: He's both vague and grouchy. Again and again, these songs boil down to a guy who professes to hate not only stardom but life in general: Pretty Noose, Zero Chance, Blow up the Outside World, Never Named and many others display a one-note unfriendliness and disgust with the world in general that, over more than an hour, grows extremely tiresome. And when he's not raging that he'd like to either cut himself off from or, literally, blow-up the outside world, he's asking (as on Never Named and Burden in my Hand) for our pity. As a result, despite a number of very good songs (among them Noose, Tighter and Dusty) Down can't help but feel long-winded. Soundgarden is a great-sounding band, no question, but at their core they too often offer just a gray, static weariness of spirit. Rating: Two and a half stars on a scale of five. - ------------------------------------------------------- Chris... asking for our pity? HA!!! This guy obviously doesn't know what in the hell he's talking about!! Chris... grouchy and vague? Well, ok... maybe a little. But I think truthful and ambiguous are better words to define him. Chris literally wanting to blow up the world? What kind of drugs is this guy on? Nihilism at an arena level?? Someone hand me my gun. Comments anyone? Shroom "Stupid people should not breed!!!!!" ~Skatenigs ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: AAAUUGGGHHH!!! Bad review!! Yah, me again. I forgot to add this with my rantings on that suck-ass review that Dave Ferman did: The fucker can't even get his facts straight. He said that Chris wrote lyrics for all but one of the songs.... WRONG ANSWER, ASS-LICKER!!! Kim wrote Never The Machine Forever, and Ben wrote An Unkind. I'm going to call this guy and tell him what a sorry piece of shit he is. Thank you so much for listening to me bitch... Shroom "I want to eat you all!!" ~ Pinky (& the Brain) "So I'm going to say screw this... it's good looking, but I don't like it." ~ Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: with a swarm of motorflys... My friends suck. They are hopelessly stuck on that alternative bandwagon. I conned them into listening to the SG premiere on the radio, and they replied with "Soundgarden sucks, why don't they play Black Hole Sun?" Hahaha. Maybe your right, DOTU will primarily appeal to the real fans of SG. Most likely "Pretty Noose" will get the "Black Hole Sun" effect w/ the radio play and all.... ------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: Photo, Kim's playing DOTU looks a litle bit like the Superunknown cover becuase they both used that effect where the area beneath their feet is a "reflection pool" of what is ontop. But I think the whole artwork of DOTU kicks serious ass....I like the color choice on the cover.... ------------------------------ From: chaneyk@stu.beloit.edu (Keidra Chaney) Subject: hello! Hi Y'all! My name is Keidra! I'm new to this list, but not really. I've been reading it for months on my friends E-mail account, but I have subscribed coz I havent had much to say. Now that DOTU is out however........ MY GOD IS THIS A GREAT ALBUM! There has been so much dissapointing music out lately, but this album lives up to and exceeds all of my expectations. SG seems to get better with age,it's almost scary how great they are... The standout track for me(right now) Zero Chance:I agree with whoever on the list said it was very Temple of The Dog sounding. It's so chilling,yet understated..Every time I hear it I nearly pass out from emotion. Right now, this album alone has convinced me to go to Lolla. I dont care if it will cost me and arm and a leg. I don't care if they only play an hour set. I dont care that Metallica's new song is so bad it makes me physically ill. Soundgarden deserves my cash, and my lifelong devotion:-) Just had to get my two cents in... Keidra *Any African-American Soundgarden fans on the list? If so, make yourself known! Write me:chaneyk@stu.beloit.edu **Shroom,girlfriend, you are a woman after my own heart. Your taste in men in excellent. Chris is indeed a god, and Jerry Cantrell is a babe as well. We MUST chat. ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: whos greg gilmore? sorry, i deleted this message :) Isn't Greg Gilmore the drummer of Mother Love Bone? Champagne. ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: Re: hello! In a message dated 96-05-24 16:10:45 EDT, you write: >*Any African-American Soundgarden fans on the list? If so, make yourself >known! Write me:chaneyk@stu.beloit.edu enlightening side-note: I need to comment on this. I work at a record store & a surprisingly large amount of African-Americans have bought the new record in the last new days. It's really cool to see this... I live in a very diverse (and very racist sadly) area & I'm happy to see all types of people can relate to Soundgarden's music. I was talking to some East Asian customers and they loved the fact that Soundgarden was once working with a Asian bassist (Hiro of course) & that's one of the reasons that turned them onto the band. (This goes for Smashing Pumpkins with James Iha.) obscure personal history: Actually to be honest if it weren't for a very close friend of mine from Junior High School, Corey (who happened to be black) I probably would never have gotten into Soundgarden back when I did. He forced a Hendrix record on me & asked me if I liked it... I of course did. He then told me to keep eyes on Seattle-area for bands like Soundgarden, Green River & the Melvins. -insert well-known Seattle-music history here- I guess I should say I'm Native American/Anglo(predominately)/African... which doesn't explain my hair color (c: ray ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: SOMMS questions / Pretty Noose V-I-N-Y-L 45 I got a copy of Bmf/SOMMS. Cool, huh? Anyway. It's definately all pieces of a real SOMMS (Motorvision group photo, Bmf has DISK 1 on it, SOMMS is in it, the 'letter', etc) but I have a authenticity question which could be best answered by those with the PROMO copy of the disks. My SOMMS (disk 2) has 'For Promotional Use Only - Not For Sale' printed on it but the disc's jewel case doesn't nor does Disk 1. Knowing a little about promo records I notice that the UPC code doesn't have a hole in it & with the fact that neither the packaging or the first disk have 'promo' in anyway on them I've decided I've got a hybrid copy of Bmf/SOMMS. Not that this bothers, but I just want to know if this is true or not. Anyone care to enlighten me? Also Geoff (sorry I mis-placed you personal address) please add me to the list... and don't forget to denote that I have a promo release. Thank you. I also got my Pretty Noose 45 (it's spelled VINYL people.. sorry, but that REALLY bothers me) & I'm grand number 4626. Yippie.... 4626. Anyway. I got it for free (c: Well, I traded a RAtM import disc (Bullet in the Head) that I got for free a few years back for it. OK... too much information, pardon that. I'd be happy to keep count of all existing copies on the list of the number PN red 45, so those that have copies (I know a few do at least) please e-mail me with 'Pretty Noose 45' or something to that effect in the subject title. Please include the number too. ray ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: PN and biblical stuff... "eat the fruit and kiss the snake goodnight" okay, my question is, who is he talking to/about? if we accept that this is a reference to the garden of eden, then we have a few choices. i'm going to assume that it's not adam, since the song is clearly about a woman. so, i wonder, is chris referring to eve... which kind of makes sense, i mean, christian theology for years tried to blame eve for the downfall of mankind as we know it... or is he talking about Lilith? Lilith was adam's first wife, myth says she was even created *before* adam, and that she refused to obey the Guy Upstairs (which is why he got rid of her and created eve). I'd like to think that that's who chris is referring to. though I think he'd like lilith a hell of a lot more than eve -- she's my personal patron goddess (lilith i mean) -- and much more fun, but also much more likely to fit the description of the woman referred to in 'PN'. am i the only looney to have thought about this? ;-> (no i do NOT want to be at work working at 3:30 pm on a 70+ degree clear sunny day in seattle the day before labor day weekend) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Spoonman Creations i was at the university district street fair last sunday, just walking around and stuff. i saw this booth with jewelry made from forks and spoons, and headed over hoping to find a fork necklace. we were looking through the stuff (which was pretty neat without the SG connection) and i wondered if maybe chris didn't pick up his necklace at some seattle street fair years ago? ;-) it would make sense, wouldn't it? anyway, one of my co-workers also saw this vendor, and she got his catalogue, which i asked her to bring in so i could compare it to the picture of The Fork. i came back yesterday from lunch and on my desk is a catalogue from... Spoonman Creations. who have been in business since *1971*! anyway. there's no fork that matches The Fork, but the stuff is neat, and i thought i'd mention it in case anyone was interested. you can call them at 1-800-656-3458 if you're taht interested... :) - --caryn ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: rhinosaur I'd like to take this oppurtunity to say Switch Opens ROCKS. And it doesn't sound un-Soundgarden to me. Sounds like a song off their new album. ...Switch is on...Switch is on...Switch is on...Switch is on... Geoff ------------------------------ From: iawake@ix.netcom.com (ChrisL) Subject: T-shirt desparation Hey.... I was just about to send out my check to nothingman...to order a t-shirt...when I came across something that I hope is wrong.....Is it too late to order a shirt!!!!!????? Tell me it's not so.... I will send it out right away if someone can answer this frantic question! Please.... SGardnGrl. ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: AAAUUGGGHHH!!! Bad review!! > Soundgarden: Down on the Upside > Great sound, lousy lyrics. > By: Dave Ferman > ... Again and again, these songs boil down to a guy who professes to hate > not only stardom but life in general: Pretty Noose, Zero Chance, Blow up the > Outside World, Never Named and many others display a one-note unfriendliness > and disgust with the world in general that, over more than an hour, grows > extremely tiresome. And when he's not raging that he'd like to either cut > himself off from or, literally, blow-up the outside world, he's asking (as on > Never Named and Burden in my Hand) for our pity. With assholes like this reviewer on this earth who doesn't want to burrow down and blow up the outside? My theory is that all reviewers are failed musicians who must give poor reviews to what they actually believe are good albums because of extreme jealousy. Geoff ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas A few more people have emailed, mentioning they now own somms, so it's time for an update. There are now 47 copies of somms accounted for by somms-list members and 10 other copies known to be owned by others. If anybody else has a copy, email me preferably with the word SOMMS in the subject. I'll only count genuine copies, and assume they are on CD unless you tell me. (there are some on vinyl I believe) A name followed by (+1) indicates that that person also know people who own it. I know one person myself. A number in brackets without a '+' indicates that they own that number of copies. Clear? I hope so. See you down on the upside.... (list of somms owners follows) The list of owners includes: Laughing Boy Kelly Christa Jones Seth (+3 including 1 radio-only promo) Chris Mackenzie euphoric Aaron Beyer Jennifer L. York (+2) B. Kinser Cornell Vikki Lee James Ingram Little Joe Blind Dog Stephen Fox (2) (including special somms-only copy given to radio stations) Myself (Geoff Kleemola)(+1) Dwayne Bryant Dallis Toybox Caryn Rose Chris Farley (2) John Freeman Eric Gardner HasNoName Audrey Hillyard Jizzwack Nate Crosswhite (+2) nancy e phend Eric Lanning OponFam Kerri Char Saracen Stuart Davies Alyssa Kent Alex (BrthRitual@aol.com) Darren L Kochersperger Kazam Ali Jamesetta Simpson Antvena@aol.com Clint Harris (2) (+2 including one for loan at the library) Shroom ClownWithBazooka GeekGirl Ray (disk 1 and promo of disc 2) -Geoff ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: DOTU digipak Does anyone have a copy of DOTU that ISN'T digipak? I coulda sworn that I read somewhere that DOTU digipak is limited edition but I walked into Record Town tonight and found like ten copies of DOTU digipak and I haven't seen any other kind of DOTU anywhere. I think this is the real deal personally and that you can't get DOTU in any other kind of packaging.. because frankly, I haven't SEEN it in any other kind of packaging. Can anyone enlighten me on this? Also, has anyone else been utterly embarrassed when driving your automovehicle (a Mr. Champagnerism) singing along to DOTU with your windows down at the top of your lungs and having the whole population look at you like you have lobsters crawling out of your ears or am I the only one? :) Champagne. ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Comments on DOTU; Digipaks Here's some of my assorted comments on DOTU: Rhinosaur-Part of the chord sounds sorta like "Paranoid" by Black Sabbath. Zero Chance-Reminded me of 2 other songs, "Ten Years Gone" by Led Zeppelin, and "Soma" by Smashing Pumpkins. Dusty-The opening drums sorta sound like "D'yer M'aker" by Zeppelin Ty Cobb-Possibly the best song on the album; great to play at full volume when you're pissed off at someone! Blow Up the Outside World-Reminded me of "Four Walled World" by Temple of the Dog Never Named-Shades of "Kingdom of Come" Applebite-Shades of "No Wrong, No Right" No Attention-Second best song on the album; I loved it when I first heard it on Self Pollution Overfloater-Totally Pink Floyd-like, or even "No Quarter" by Led Zeppelin An Unkind-Reminded me a little of "Nazi Driver" Boot Camp-Again, like Floyd I realize there's tons of Zeppelinesque riffs and overtones in this album. But, it's pretty clear, Zeppelin kicked ass, and so does SG. However, this album is one small step below Superunknown. That's still saying a lot, considering how awesome Superunknown is. BTW, what exactly is a digipak? Vasant ****************************************************************************** The Refuge of the Damned http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html Lots of music, photos, links, and more! vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "S. Mohanty" Subject: An amazing week of Soundgarden! This past week has been was the most amazing week of Soundgarden for me! Last Monday during the world premiere I was taping from a Baltimore radio station, 98 Rock, that was slightly out of my range. Half through the show, I checked the tape and their was static. Shit. Half an hour after the premiere ended around midnight, another station saves my life and play Down On The Upside ALL THE WAY THROUGH!. I immediately threw in the other tape just when Pretty Noose started and listened to the album well into the early morning hours. On Friday, I found a used copy of the SOMMS CD at a used CD store and the songs rock, especially Into The Void! That same day I finally heard and got a copy of Soundgarden's awesome version of COME TOGETHER. This is probably the best song the guys have ever recorded. Saturday, of course, taped the Saturday Night Live performance. Chris voice was kind of screwed up during Pretty Noose, but Burden In My Hand was excellent. And wrapped this amazing week up on Sunday at Midnight on 120 minutes, I taped the entire interview with Chris and Kim!! - -Mamasan ------------------------------ From: Mamasan Subject: Tighter and Tighter That new song "Tighter and Tighter" from the new record is incredible! The beginning chord progression is kind of similar to SG's version of Come Together, but it then kicks into a blues-type groove, kind of like "Holy Water." All I can say is that I love this song and its probably the best one on the album. - -Mamasan "Sleep tight for me, sleep tight for me...I'm gone!" *By the way, does anybody on the list like "Fresh Tendrils"??? ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: more web stuff the MTV interview with Cornell on politics: http://chooseorlose.com/chooseorlose/soundgint.html ________________________________________________________________________________ a cool Soundgarden picture at the Ploygram site (CD+ schtuff) http://www.polygram.com/polygram/inrb1195/soundgarden_alive.html ________________________________________________________________________________ this person also has some sound clips. I don't know if they are on the list or not, so pardon my ignorance :) http://144.118.223.155/garden.html ________________________________________________________________________________ a small Soundgarden site: http://www-cse.ucsd.edu/users/bruss/Metal/groups/Soun.html ________________________________________________________________________________ a review of "Superunknown" http://www.engl.iastate.edu/Class_Pages/ENGL_104_KPQ/Carpenter.html ________________________________________________________________________________ ok, thats all.. i was bored, ok jerm - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "somewhere through a thousand blues a dragonfly descends with just a whisper. i'm lonelier than god, and all my wishes spin the fishes in the air and everyone a different shade of you" - "suicide machine", by Hum ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: DOTU digipak I haven't even seen a digipack. I have the jewel case. I would have bought the digipack if I'd seen it. Geoff ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 135] ****************************************