From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 18 May 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 18 May 1996 00:44:39 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 18 May 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: the girl u want Out in the cold NME??? Re: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 17 May 1996 120 minutes Re: Are you from Spain?? PJ Starr PN video Kozik on "Pretty Noose," nudie bars, music reviewers... BadMoterScooter CMJ - Thumbs Up Re: RAHRAHBLAH BLAHmayhem!!!!! Stand up and Sell out Re: ??? Re: Rockline broadcast Rockline Nudie Bar Rockline Re: Rockline PJ Starr stuff... Re: Rockline Re: ?????? Re: BMF pretty damn good day! Burden in my hand / Blow up the outside world Fwd: burden in my hand lyrics!!I SG on 120 minutes!! online mayhem ;) ------------------------------------------------------------ From: 96753415@student.hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU Subject: the girl u want does anybody knows how much is the SOMMS CD worth, now ? i have got 3 copies of it.... ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Out in the cold Chicago weather totally sucks, I haven't got the vinyl, I missed the radio broadcast, haven't bought Request yet - what is wrong with me. How did I get so out of touch? I really feel left out. I guess that means I better get off my ass and go get something, huh? Kathie ------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: NME??? Excuse my ignorance, but What does it mean NME? ------------------------------ From: "R. Maney" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 17 May 1996 well, i have been listening to the 10 tracks played on the seattle radio show and i can now firmly say that, song for song, this is the (IMHO) best soundgarden album to date. and i havent even heard ty cobb! SEATTLE AREA READERS: the new issue of the Rocket has a review of the album and it is absolutely glowing! A very refreshing change from the blasphemous NME and lukewarm Spin and RS reviews. This guy gets the point. Seth, I'll type this in soon but left my copy at a friends. this is my first post! welcome me!! todd ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: 120 minutes Sommites, The 120 minute thing will air this sunday at midnight. Sg on tv two days in a row. YES!!! -Clown "I caught the moon today" -Chris ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Are you from Spain?? From: "SANCHEZ MORTE, FCO. JOSE" >From: ROBIN >Subject: Are you from Spain??? > >If your answer is YES... >Por favor quitame esta duda. Hace m=E0s de un a=F1o compre una revista= > espa=F1ola >en donde la portada est=E0 dedicada a SG (de fondo de se ve ese auditorio >famoso de Australia), en el reportaje, alaba la presentaci=F2n en ese >continente de mi grupo favorito(que entre otras cosas dice que la gente que >asistio se bronqueo y lanzaron v=F2mito);PERO antes de que empiece hacen la >advertancia: TODO LO QUE PAS=D2 LA NOCHE ANTERIOR EMPIEZA LENTAMENTE A= > VOLVER >A NUESTRA MEMORIA, Y ESO HACE COMPRENSIBLE POR QUE SG NO VAN A ESTAR >DEMASIADO AMABLES NI ACCESIBLES HOY.(y que bueno que lo advirtieron) >Pero en lugar de parecer groseros o cortantes su sinceridad habitual sali=F2 >aflote con declaraciones como "Nuestros fans son gente que te idolatra de >tal manera que te hace tener un sentimiento de culpabilidad si no les das la >mano.No s=E8 ,tengo la impresi=F2n de que toda esa pasi=F2n, ese amor que= > sienten >por t=EC se puede transformar en odio en cualquier momento, y puede pasar de >amarte a quererte ver muerto.Es dif=ECcil de asimilar de tener una relaci=F2= >n >as=EC con tus fans." ,=E8sta declaraci=F2n fu=E8 hecha por ChrisCo. >Pero algo de lo que me llam=F2 la atenci=F2n fue una de las declaraciones= > que >Ben hizo "El otro d=ECa tuvimos un "meet and greet" con cuatro fans y uno de >ellos se quizo llevar las baquetas de Matt y le dije "Hey devuelve eso ahora >mismo o te aseguro que terminaremos mal" y la chica que se las quer=ECa= > llevar >le pregunt=F2 si era en serio, Ben le respondi=F2 "...no est=E0s tratando= > con esos >preciosos juguetes que ves en el Mtv =BFno te parece que si quieres algo de >nosotros lo menos que puedes hacer es pedirlo, en vez de cogerlo como si >fuese tuyo?, la se=F1orita ofendida dijo, "Ustedes vende=ECs discos gracias= > a >gente como yo bastardos", Ben inteligentemente respondi=F2 "Nunca hemos >escrito una canci=F2n pensando en ti, hija de puta!"" >Bueno en fin, s=F2lo quiero preguntar (a quien sea que me entienda), =BF si= > =E8ste >tipo de prensa es ver=ECdica, si la revista (KERRANG), es una fuente= > confiable >de informaci=F2n? >Yo soy el tipo de personas que piensa que los m=F9sicos y los artistas antes >que nada son personas que piensan y sienten diferente y que el hecho de que >est=E8n en esto de el rock-business no te da el derecho de abusar de la >paciencia y comprension de algunos de ellos; estoy de acuerdo con la manera >en la que piensan y definitivamente no son estrellas de rock son un grupo de >m=F9sicos con un talento y creatividad enorme. =20 > >ROBIN > >lOVes IS LikE sUiciDE HOLA Yo estoy en Espana, pero lo siento no conozco la revista KERRANG no puedo contestar a tu pregunta. Estoy deacuerdo contigo en lo que dices sobre los musicos. A mi lo que me interesa de ellos es su musica. Su vida privada debemos dejarla aun lado y respetarla de la misma manera que nos gustaria que nos respetasen a nosotros. P.D. POR FAVOR NO USES ACENTOS Francisco J. Sanchez Morte psanchez@MSF.UNIZAR.ES ------------------------------ From: Malvol7@aol.com Subject: PJ Starr If you haven't heard from PJ Starr by next week, just e-mail me and I can snail- mail your request to her. Malvol7@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: PN video I finally saw Pretty Noose on MTV. PN made #16 on the top 20 MTV video countdown this week. Idalis(the VJ) went on and on about how Mariah Carey's latest fell nine spots, blah, blah, blah. Then she said "And now, on the UPSIDE of things..." I was sure that it was some weakly clever allusion to the album title, but the next words out of her mouth were "George Michael." After I recovered from my killing frenzy, I decided to keep MTV on, just in case. And then, there it was - #16! I love this song. Esp. the part where Chris sings "Common Ruse" - I don't know, it just gets me. Nate ------------------------------ Subject: Kozik on "Pretty Noose," nudie bars, music reviewers... From: seth Kozik asked me to forward his responses to list discussions to everyone, so here they are... - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Fri, 17 May 1996 10:51:46 -0700 From: mansruin@sirius.com (Man's Ruin Inc.) Regarding:The logos on Pretty Noose Video,Nudie Bars,and unbridled hatred of music reviewers... There was a lot of discussion pertaining to the appearance of the logos at the end of the PN vid, here's the deal. You can thank Kim Thayil.it was at his request that they where included.He felt it would be a nice, personal way to give true fans a sense of continuity from the older albums.The guys in SG do really care about their history and an on-going sense of connection with where they came from and are going.For a band of their current magnitude,this is a pretty cool thing.Synchronistically,the round shape of the BMF logo fit in perfectly with the "round" and "eye" motifs,and provided a real nice little twinge at the end. It was meant as a personal touch by the band for older fans.This leads me into the current brouhaha about the negative review in NME.You gotta remember,music critics are the lowest form of life on earth.Their impact is so out of proportion to reality..I mean,how the hell can some geek at NME,who is probably inordinately proud of his pathetic 300 word a week "career" have any claim as to talent or credibility against such a solid,long term consistently great creative effort of 4 people like Soundgarden.This twit exists solely to toot his own horn,and was probably jerking off to pictures of Gary Numan when SG was writing and exploring their first songs.Music criticism is totally invalid,and any efforts at it should be left solely to the only people that matter to the process-the musicians themselves,and those who the music was meant for-you.This same guy probably has a hard-on a yard long for the current round of dreck being pushed on us as genius(Lets say...Oasis).Being lucky(or unlucky) enough to have been in the unusual position of having dealt with both groups of people professionally and in person,I will tell you that the worst Soundgarden effort,in terms of real thought,perception,meaning,intent,message,history,whatever you would consider "real" far surpasses anything that dribbles forth from the current wonder-hit cretins in Oasis,or whoever looks "really cool" right now.I have been in the Alternative and Mainstream music business for 15 years now,all the way from working the door at punk dives to making a huge budget video with a platinum-selling band,and believe me,shit like Oasis will come and go,while real bands like SG are here forever.Plus,for all their braggadacio about being tough 'rockers',those Oasis guys are weeds,but personally,I wouldn't want to go at it with Ben.My advice about this NME loser,ignore him and within 6 moths both he and his sheep-fondling Brit-pop 'pals' will crawl back under the rock they came from. PS.The "nudie bar' in the PN video is the bar at the OK hotel in Seattle,I just installed a little stage... Frank Kozik mansruin@sirius.com - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ From: Mayor McCheese Subject: BadMoterScooter I just got my vinyl copy of DOTU. No big deal since everyone else seems as though they have one too . . . Is anyone like me and are keeping the vinyl sealed? I know you could say I'm anal and "not a real fan", but I've heard the album once already and I am teasing myself with the tuesday CD realease. So why not keep it sealed? I'm planning on keeping it framed next to my colored Flower vinyl (also still sealed, I have the CD). Yesterday, I got a good laugh. I heard BadMoterScooter on the radio. All I have to say about that is "ButtRock". I don't know why they would have used it as inspiration for the Badmoterfinger title . . . but what do I know, I'm just a fan. "Ohhhh, I I I I I'm still . . . Stayin' Alive" -Eddy V as a BeeGee Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX "I'm so bad, I kick my own ass twice a day!" -Creeper from Dolemite ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: CMJ - Thumbs Up CMJ New Music Monthly Review of Down On The Upside by Megan Frampton As soon as Superunknown was released, long-time Soundgarden fans could finally be proud of their band, knowing that the kings of the rock groove could also write an excellent song, as epitomized by the breakthrough hit "Black Hole Sun." And the idea holds on Down On The Upside: When the band accomplishes both groove and melody, as on "Zero Chance" or the rocking "Rhinosaur," there's nothing better. "Rhinosaur"'s groove is massive, with the stairstep guitar riffs and abrupt changes in rhythm that guitarist Kim Thayil adores. Chris Cornell's voice is in good form as well; he's been shrieking less and less since the band's debut EP, and concentrating lately on his lower register, opening up the breadth rather than the height of his vocal cords. So as Soundgarden continues to tantalize with its growing songwriting talent, there are, as usual, a few groove-only moments that go nowhere ("Applebite", "Never The Machine Forever" and "Never Named"). Thankfully, the musicianship is, also as usual, so superb as to go almost unnoticed; Matt Cameron's drumming is perfect, always powerful but never heavy-handed. Thayil's guitar is also more understated than usual, and judging by the number of good songs that bassist Ben Shepherd co-wrote with Cornell, the latest addition to the band is proving to be as essential as the three original members. Down On The Upside is neither an attempt to cash in on the band's past success, nor a return to older, less melodic efforts; rather, it's a satisfying continuation of the band's slow maturity without any fuss or hoopla. File Under: Classic rock, the way it oughtta be. Recommended if you like: Temple Of The Dog, Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin -Vikki :) ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Re: RAHRAHBLAH BLAHmayhem!!!!! I can't answer ALL your questions, but if *anyone* out there didn't get the whole Rockline thing on tape, I taped it on all three stereos I have and would be more than willing to get it circulating. Oh, they'll be on SNL tomorrow night. I'm making three first generation copies of that as well. Call me insane. I'm outta school though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - -moppy ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Stand up and Sell out I found an article in the Thursday Chicago Sun-Times sports section (I should say my husband found it, since I don't read the sports) about Dennis Rodman's birthday party and guess who sang happy birthday to this overrated ego-maniac - none other than Eddie Vedder! Now mind you, they aren't friends or anything, Dennis Rodman just likes Pearl Jam. Here's my Soundgarden content: If Chris Cornell, or any of the other members of SG for that matter, ever show up to sing Happy Birthday to some overinflated sports figure I swear I will stop listening to them. Christ, this is the kind of thing people desperate for publicity do, or who are afraid they're losing it. Unless they were personal friends with someone (and its pretty unlikely they'd be personal friends with overexposed, no class sports figures) I seriously doubt that Soundgarden would do this kind of birthday gig. I'll probably get flamed by you sports fans out there, but this just cracked me up. I'll shut up now. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: ??? Don't we only wish? I want those guys to donate to my tribe too. but youmust admit that was a sweet thing to do. ohh....did you get the new REQUEST mag? the cover is cool, and the interview too. Check it out. "I'm a preety noose and damn proud to be one" ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: Rockline broadcast When I listen to the tape, I'll get back to you on that one, 'cause i didn't memorize the interview ........yet! My radio station finnished it all up though. At least they show they give more time to Soundgarden than to 7 Mary 3, that's why it rocks! "I'm a preety noose and damn proud to be one" ------------------------------ From: stellar Subject: Rockline I was one of the unlucky fans who didn't get a chance to hear the rockline show. ANyways, if anyone does have a copy out there...um I dunno. Email me or something. I got the vinyl yesterday. I REALLY love the song Ty Cobb. It reminds me of another song but I can't friggin remember what song. DOn't you hate it when that happens. Ugh..i went to about 3 record stores and finally the most suckiest high priced store had it for about the price of a CD. The person who had 2 side 3's or whatever...how lucky. Talk about limited edition. I really wanted to keep it sealed like Mayor McCheese. But I just couldnt resist. I had to listen to the whole album. There was no way that I can wait untill the 21st. Oh well..no regrets. stellar ============================================= email: srogers@fix.net personal homepage: http://www.fix.net/~sroger ============================================= ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Nudie Bar Howdy- I have been to the OK Hotel, in fact, I've seen Hater there, but you see, they made it to look like a nudie bar. That was the point, for with all intent and purposes, they were at a nudie bar. That's all of the point that I was trying to make. Not the location itself, but the genre of bars that they were at. As a general rule, there are no women dancing nude(or as close to it as the censors at MTV and the FCC will allow) around on stage at the OK Hotel as in the video. I just wanted to clear things up from my perspective. Later, Aaron ThNrthFace@aol.com "You better be sneaky, 'cause those Duke boys are slipperier than a bucket of greased eels."-Roscoe P. Coltrane ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: Rockline Hi. I am back in the list after a long absence. I only caught the last couple of minutes of their appearance on Rockline last week hosted by Matt Pinfield. If anyone could hook me up with that performance you would make a Soundgarden fan down here in Dallas really happy. Also I was unaware that an Mtv Soundgarden special was going to be airing sometime soon. When is that going to air? Also, are they really going to be on 120 minutes this coming Sunday? Thanks. Vince Varkey ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: Rockline consider yourself lucky. I am one of the unhappy people who live way to far from a good music store. The Wiz is the closest store, and they don't carry vinyl. I have to wait until the 21st to hear the whole thing. but for now, I can only listen to the interview. If you want a copy, we can talk about it! "I'm a preety noose, and damn proud of it" ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: PJ Starr stuff... Here is the info that PJ Starr sent to me. Oh yah... and HOORAY for Steve Russell and Frank Kozik for making mincemeat out of that snot-swallowing Johnny whats-his-nuts!!!!! I was positively sqealing with delight when I read those two posts!! Shroom - - Hey Geek Girl... did you hear that Matt has decided to have a sex change? His new name is going to be Mattilda. Heheheh... rumors are cool. (Bad Beavis & Butthead impersonation.) Love me, bye-bye!! - -------------------------------------------------------------------- To order the Soundgarden Compilation video, please send a $15 money order to: PJ 7031 KLYEMORE DR. DAYTON, OHIO 45424-3024 Your video will be mailed out to you either the same day, or the next day upon receipt of your money order. Thanx! PJ - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: Rockline I have the whole intervew on tape. there's just one glitch, but it's ok. ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: ?????? Well, thought you were going to ask the same one I was going to ask Chris. I can't ask it any more, 'cause i already know the answer. It's the age old question. boxers or...well you know the rest of it. glad to say, it's boxers. But there were more i was going to ask, but I'm not sure if they'll answer. "I'm a preety Noose and Damn proud of it" ------------------------------ From: Henric Carlsson Subject: Re: BMF At 19.06 1996-05-16 CST, D_H._S wrote: >I don't have DOTU yet, but I think Badmotorfinger is still my all-time >favorite. (Actually, this message is just a cheap excuse to to see if the logo >on the bottom goes through the net mail without getting garbled :) Hmm... It was garbled. What logo was it? I have actually got DOTU; CD digipack. Does anyone know if this digipack is a limited edition or are all DOTU CDs digipacks? - --------------------------------------------------------------- [ Henric Carlsson ] [ A nam nam? ] [ University of Karlstad ] [ A nam! ] [ el4heca@stud.hks.se ] [ - Caramba '81 ] - --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Jentje Subject: pretty damn good day! Oh wow, this is definately a GOOD day for me (about time I had one of those!!). Anyhow, I found this article this morning in the Sudbury Star about Soungarden. I was in the library and I just screamed "Oh my god" ( well not exactly, it was more of a french expression that can't and shouldn't be translated), there was a nice big picture of Soundgarden in it. Needless to say I cut out the article! It was about how the original version of Pretty Noose had to be censored 'cause of the dead girl in it. There was also a mention of Frank Kozik getting feedback and stuff from the internet (could that be us??). Another thing, I went to Sam the Record Man, they didn't have any of the singles, but they had a special promo copy of the CD and they set me so that I could listen to it (they kind of know that I often come in there for SG stuff). I don't cara how I looked just standing in the store listening to that CD. I loved every second of it!!! I swear, next week, that CD is mine!! Love the songs on it! Ok, I'm finished now :) Toodles! JEnn ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: Burden in my hand / Blow up the outside world hello good evening, ( and all that nonsense) I just thought you'd all like to know that" Blow up the outside world" and" Burden in my hand" have been getting ALOT of airplay here in San Diego! ( all on rock 105.3) every time I turn on the radio either one of them are on..!!! They are also plugging the hell out of the new album! I'm glad to see/hear it... we need more fans in S.D.!! ( since it is MATT'S hometown!) oh by the way I just found the etched vinly version ofJCP.Really cool..... BYe! Geek Girl ------------------------------ From: GeekGirl@aol.com Subject: Fwd: burden in my hand lyrics!!I oops! - --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: burden in my hand lyrics!!I Date: 96-05-17 23:12:26 EDT From: Geek Girl To: sooms@mit.edu has anyone read all the lyrics to "burden in my hand"? the lines go...... "I shot my love today, would you cry for me?" " I lost my head again would you lie for me?" " I left her in the sand, just like a burden in my hand " As I was reading this I thought of something that actually happpened here in San Diego awhile back. There was this pro skater, Gator( some of you might be to young to know who this guy is) ( mark grabowski<~~~~ spelling?) any how he lived here in San Diego who I met and was a cousin of a friend of mine. one night ( as the story was told to me by my friend) Mark ( gator) had a gotten into a fight with his girlfriend and he was pretty upset! I guess the girlfriends best friend came over to talk to gator and try to act as a mediator between the two.It didnt work! Gator ended up raping the best friend and in the process killed her.. so HE FREAKED OUT and put her in his surf board bag and took her to the desert to bury her...which he did. bury her in the desert I guess a couple of weeks went by and he finally could'nt take it anymore and told a priest what he had done. soon after that he was arrested. that line in the song is too creepy for me...." I left her in the sand, just like a burden in my hand' I wonder,(but do seriously doubt it!) if Chris (CORNELL **SHROOM** HAHA)was writting about this when he wrote the song..apparently he was a skater himself. any comments? gEeK GIrL ------------------------------ From: rea49625@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Rebecca Agrait) Subject: SG on 120 minutes!! while on the 120 minutes home page at mtv's website i found this info: "This Sunday, Matt Pinfield hosts 120 Minutes on May 19th, with special guests Soundgarden." I hope this clears up some confusion. If you guys already know this, sorry. I just thought i'd let you know. Hasswipee's Home Page http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~rea49625/ ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: online mayhem ;) the divine shroom said.... > I can't wait for that online interview!! I've already got like 10 >questions written out. Just think people... this is your chance to have SG >read something YOU wrote!! We should bug them to check out the list. > Heheheh... they're going to be SO annoyed with me by the end of the >interview... The questions I'm asking are SO bad. I live to torment... > > Shroomy hey shroom.... i bet if enough of us got together and shared questions and kept asking the same ones... we'd get heard... hmmmmmm... heh heh heh 0=) ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 128] ****************************************