From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 16 May 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 16 May 1996 01:57:19 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 16 May 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Are you from Spain??? Corgan and Joey Cora, long lost brothers? I think so. Re: Heard DOTU finally well, be that way DOTU HOME-VIDEO Re: ack... dropping this mailing list Re: ack... Re: the broadcast Glasgow 15th May Vedder-esque deep-voiced whine? Re: the broadcast Heard DOTU finally Lolla Tickets Mtv's SG special the satellite show, expensive hobbies, a change Re: a change Re: a change Re: a change call me weird but... Re: the satellite show, expensive hobbies, a change Re: a change Re: the broadcast Re: Mtv's SG special Stuck on sticker DOTU cd. details, as requested! Re: Welcome to SOMMS Digest the Cambridge report Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 15 May 1996 Re: a change Re: the satellite show, expensive hobbies, a change Re: details, as requested! DOTU now Re: Fresh Deadly Tendrills CD Re: details, as requested! Re: DOTU now Tell Me What It's Like wtf.. Re[2]: details, as requested! Re: the satellite show, expensive hobbies, a change I Got It (but still haven't seen PN vid) Size 9 in my mouth... Q107 interview/bye fer the summer OhYeah... Re: Re[2]: details, as requested! Re: dropping this mailing list Someone help me!!!!!!!!!! just a broadcast in my hand... Online with the Gods... Size 9 Poop Shoot. Fucking Video ozzy tour An Unkind and other DOTU ramblings ------------------------------------------------------------ From: ROBIN Subject: Are you from Spain??? If your answer is YES... Por favor quitame esta duda. Hace m=E0s de un a=F1o compre una revista= espa=F1ola en donde la portada est=E0 dedicada a SG (de fondo de se ve ese auditorio famoso de Australia), en el reportaje, alaba la presentaci=F2n en ese continente de mi grupo favorito(que entre otras cosas dice que la gente que asistio se bronqueo y lanzaron v=F2mito);PERO antes de que empiece hacen la advertancia: TODO LO QUE PAS=D2 LA NOCHE ANTERIOR EMPIEZA LENTAMENTE A= VOLVER A NUESTRA MEMORIA, Y ESO HACE COMPRENSIBLE POR QUE SG NO VAN A ESTAR DEMASIADO AMABLES NI ACCESIBLES HOY.(y que bueno que lo advirtieron) Pero en lugar de parecer groseros o cortantes su sinceridad habitual sali=F2 aflote con declaraciones como "Nuestros fans son gente que te idolatra de tal manera que te hace tener un sentimiento de culpabilidad si no les das la mano.No s=E8 ,tengo la impresi=F2n de que toda esa pasi=F2n, ese amor que= sienten por t=EC se puede transformar en odio en cualquier momento, y puede pasar de amarte a quererte ver muerto.Es dif=ECcil de asimilar de tener una relaci=F2= n as=EC con tus fans." ,=E8sta declaraci=F2n fu=E8 hecha por ChrisCo. Pero algo de lo que me llam=F2 la atenci=F2n fue una de las declaraciones= que Ben hizo "El otro d=ECa tuvimos un "meet and greet" con cuatro fans y uno de ellos se quizo llevar las baquetas de Matt y le dije "Hey devuelve eso ahora mismo o te aseguro que terminaremos mal" y la chica que se las quer=ECa= llevar le pregunt=F2 si era en serio, Ben le respondi=F2 "...no est=E0s tratando= con esos preciosos juguetes que ves en el Mtv =BFno te parece que si quieres algo de nosotros lo menos que puedes hacer es pedirlo, en vez de cogerlo como si fuese tuyo?, la se=F1orita ofendida dijo, "Ustedes vende=ECs discos gracias= a gente como yo bastardos", Ben inteligentemente respondi=F2 "Nunca hemos escrito una canci=F2n pensando en ti, hija de puta!"" Bueno en fin, s=F2lo quiero preguntar (a quien sea que me entienda), =BF si= =E8ste tipo de prensa es ver=ECdica, si la revista (KERRANG), es una fuente= confiable de informaci=F2n? Yo soy el tipo de personas que piensa que los m=F9sicos y los artistas antes que nada son personas que piensan y sienten diferente y que el hecho de que est=E8n en esto de el rock-business no te da el derecho de abusar de la paciencia y comprension de algunos de ellos; estoy de acuerdo con la manera en la que piensan y definitivamente no son estrellas de rock son un grupo de m=F9sicos con un talento y creatividad enorme. =20 ROBIN lOVes IS LikE sUiciDE = =20 = =20 = =20 =20 ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Corgan and Joey Cora, long lost brothers? I think so. Howdy, Just a note on the Billy Corgan issue. I was talking to a friend of mine who did the interview with SG on KISW, and he added that the impression he had was that Corgan was asking some fatherly advice of Kim Thayil. And Kim basicly told him to fuck off. Causing the ever so sensitive Corgan to run off crying into the waiting arms of his therapist. Chris was bitching about the fact that he dosen't have tickets to the Sonics playoff games. He said he was boycotting them because of the pay-per-view. Geekgirl@aol.com wrote: >I think we ( YES ALL) if it is affordable? THIS IS JUST AN IDEA! >but really we could hold our own Soundgarden convention! what other place >well think it over... O.k. give the idea a chance! it may not ever happen >because of money and what not but hey a least I thought it was a cool idea!( >And really in the end that's all that matters! <~~~ hahah!) That would be cool, I agree. Just where would a devoted fan meet? I might suggest the birthplace of the coolest band on earth, Seattle. First, it would be really cheap for me. Second, every true fan should make the pilgrimage. That's just the way it is. Hey, did anyone else realize that at the begining of the PN video, the guys are at a nudie bar? I just thought I'd share this with the group. Later 'yall, Aaron ThNrthFace@aol.com "Are you gonna leave after Uncle Jessie spent all mornin' fixin' those vittles for you?"-Daisy Duke ------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: Re: Heard DOTU finally Christopher Ames wrote: That Rolling Stone reviewer can kiss my >ass! He don't know shit. This is a great album. > Does anyone actually know just how many vinyl copies o DOTU are >being released? Cellophane Square in Bellingham, WA (90 min. N of >Seattle) had several when bought my around 2:30 yesterday. > >*********************************** >Christopher Ames >http://www.wwu.edu/~n9610899 >n9610899@cc.wwu.edu > >I really do agree with you, that man doesn't know about the real good music ROBIN lOVE IS likE suiCIde > ------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Did anyboby know if the vinyl version of DOTU will come to Mexico, just like Australia and Europe? I asked in all the music stores here, I guess, but anybody have it. P.S. URB@NO yo se que tu tambien lo quieres , si sabes algo escribeme. thanks Robin LOVE IS LIKE SUICIDE ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: well, be that way >Actually it was @ TRIAD studios in Redmond... and it ruled. of course.. you couldn't possibly share with the list your experience. i mean... isn't it far far better... to drop these little 'hints' so the rest of us think that you are so cool... no... you and the other few people that i know were there... continue to be unsufferable snobs... and hope to hell that you don't need tickets or any other SG favor ever, because i WILL remember your email address and will delete you without answering. - --caryn ------------------------------ From: Robin Brookeneck Subject: DOTU HOME-VIDEO I hope this time they made a home video of this excellent album. We should propose to them or to the record company, I don't know, or something better, an exclusive home video for the fans :):) ROBIN LOVE is likE suiCIde ------------------------------ From: overfloater@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Re: ack... SA>> A Digipak is umm, the kind of packaging albums like Nine Inch Nails's SA>> Broken, the pink Outshined single and Primus's Pork Soda come in. And SA>> dammit if DOTU is coming out in Digipak I want a copy. SA>So a Digipak is just one of those wraparound cardboard cases with the SA>plastic CD holder glued into it? The annoying cases that are skinnier SA>than jewel boxes so they don't fit in my CD rack? I think so.... :) I kinda like em though, but hey.. Can anyone else clarify this? I've always been under the impression that that's what Digipak is.. and the scans of the DOTU covers on yer page LOOK like Digipak.. Champagne. ------------------------------ From: Fleur Weinstock Subject: dropping this mailing list hi. i just wanted to let you guys know that i'm describing from this mailing list because i think it's much too gossipy and vapid. nonetheless, i admire you for your admiration of soundgarden, but when will people stop talking about getting chris into bed and the cuteness of matt? whatever. have fun being vapid, you vipers. thanks, fleur de vie buttrock university ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Re: ack... >SA>> A Digipak is umm, the kind of packaging albums like Nine Inch Nails's >SA>> Broken, the pink Outshined single and Primus's Pork Soda come in. And >SA>> dammit if DOTU is coming out in Digipak I want a copy. > >SA>So a Digipak is just one of those wraparound cardboard cases with the >SA>plastic CD holder glued into it? The annoying cases that are skinnier >SA>than jewel boxes so they don't fit in my CD rack? > >I think so.... :) I kinda like em though, but hey.. Can anyone else >clarify this? I've always been under the impression that that's what >Digipak is.. and the scans of the DOTU covers on yer page LOOK like >Digipak.. Yeah, the carboard things, and they all seem to be of different widths too, so some of them don't even fit in the cd-rack :) but they are still cool. And the slimline cd cases that singles come in, they are just damn annoying!! make em the same size so I can fit them in and at least read the edge of them! :) Maybe I should just by vinyl, seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "Pretty Noose" single by Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Re: the broadcast Just a question about all the broadcast shows etc. I assume they had them at one venue and all the radio stations got a feed from there at some time during the session? Did any of the questions from other countries get teleacast overseas? or where we all restricted to what was asked at home? Just wondering what was played in the US and how different it was too the Austalian show. _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "Pretty Noose" single by Soundgarden ------------------------------ Subject: Glasgow 15th May From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 Hey people, If anyone in Glasgow happens to read this, then Missing are doing a promo night for the new SG album, with playback of the new stuff, competions, and promo price beer - TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! It's at the Ivory (something) Bar which is 7 doors down from the Missing store, also right next to the second hand bit. This is the Missing in the Centre, not the west-end one. See you there, Brydon ------------------------------ Subject: Vedder-esque deep-voiced whine? From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 Up your fucking arsed you cocksucking mutherfucker!!! Jesus fucking wept, I'ver not even finished reading the review and I'm fucked off by the first fucking sentence! Fuck NME and FUCK Johnny cigarrettes. Fuck BritPop and the fashion conscious fuckers that follow it's every new change like fucking sheep. These people think they are creating a new movement and all they're doing is ripping the past from British music. And they have the gall to admit they're doing something new! The fucking Who were dangerous, Oasis fucking aren't. These fucking dicks with their carefully combed forward sideburns and '70s T-shirts who argue they don't care how they look yet slavishly follow the latest trends, are so fucking shallow! The bands may have breathed new life into British pop, but the wave of fashion and attitude that has followed is so fake. Christ, and half of you are American and won't get this! Ah, well... Sorry about this peerie outburst, it just pisses me off sometimes. Love and happiness (the ultimate hypocracy... ) BC ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: the broadcast Umm??? You were in the same room for, oh, say, 3 hrs., with the 4 guys who are the sole reason this mailing list exists, and you need to ask "if anyone wants more details"? Uh,yes. Of course! Everything & anything you remember, no matter how minuscule it may seem. Start with the atmosphere (I think a poorly ventilated room strewn with pillows was the setting) ...what went on during commercial breaks ...and finally what it what like mtg. them. Please? 'Kay? -Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: SoundGrdn3@aol.com at nylanr01 So, was anyone else there at the broadcast? I was. It rocked!!! Well, if anyone wants more details, let me know!!! ------------------------------ From: Christopher Ames Subject: Heard DOTU finally I'm a huge fan, been since '89, but spinning the vinyl yesterday was the first I've heard of DOTU. Haven't seen the PN video and only heard a snippet of the song on the radio last week. Anyway, I was very impressed. I am a fanatic fan, but for some strange reason it always takes a while for new SG stuff to really sink in. Weird, I know, but maybe I'm just afraid to be let down. BUt, from the first listen I loved this new one. "Blow Up the Outside World" was my favorite the first time through. That Rolling Stone reviewer can kiss my ass! He don't know shit. This is a great album. Does anyone actually know just how many vinyl copies o DOTU are being released? Cellophane Square in Bellingham, WA (90 min. N of Seattle) had several when bought my around 2:30 yesterday. *********************************** Christopher Ames http://www.wwu.edu/~n9610899 n9610899@cc.wwu.edu ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Lolla Tickets Well, I am now the proud owner of four tickets to the Charleston, WV show, courtesy of the $176 bucks I gave TicketMassah. I can't believe it, ** $5.25 ** service charge PER TICKET! That's right, pay the bums $5.25 per ticket so they can take your order over the Internet. Pardon my french people, but that's a fucking crock! I can't believe I just paid $21 for a process that required no human intervention... Anyway, that being said, this was a hell of a lot easier than camping out Friday night. So, I'll be at Charlestown. Anyone else??? Greg P.S. -- Screw drug dealing. I'm gonna deal tickets instead. ------------------------------ From: Mark Miller Subject: Mtv's SG special Does anyone know when this 90 minute special will be aired? I have this terrible feeling it was last night and I missed it. Mark ------------------------------ Subject: the satellite show, expensive hobbies, a change From: seth I did listen to the satellite broadcast the other night, and Soundgarden were funny as usual. The questions they were asked were intoned as if being read from cue cards, though, so the dialogue between the band and the audience was not very lively. For those of you who were there in the studio, I have to agree with Vikki and Caryn: stop making cute little references to it and tell us everything. I taped it, so I will hopefully be able to transcribe it for all to read next week, unless someone else is already doing this, in which case please let me know. I realized today just how much money I shell out for Soundgarden music. The only non-music stuff I've ever bought are the 2 shirts I have. Are there other bands that release so many different versions of their singles around the world? It seems like every two days I'm dropping down another $25 for something that I don't really need but feel compelled to own anyway, just for collection's sake. All 3 "Pretty Noose" singles came in the mail today; the only thing I haven't heard is the interview with Eleven, but just to be thorough I bought both CDs and the colored 7" (I'm number 2807 of 5000). When I think about it, do I really need 6 different versions of the "Fell On Black Days" single? Is it necessary to go buy DOTU on vinyl when I have it on CD? Of course it isn't, but I'll do it anyway. Does anyone have any theories on the sudden flurry of band photos on Soundgarden's material? The DOTU cover is the first to obviously depict all four members, and the CD itself has a plain group shot printed on it. The "Pretty Noose" singles are the same; all 3 versions and the radio promo have the band shot on the front. I guess I kind of miss the stuff that didn't so clearly have the band on it, like the covers to Superunknown and any of its singles, because they always featured cool graphics... s. ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: Re: a change At 02:09 PM 5/15/96 EDT, Seth wrote: >Soundgarden's material? The DOTU cover is the first to obviously >depict all four members, and the CD itself has a plain group shot >printed on it. Along these lines, does anyone have any guesses as to the actual identities of the four silhouttes on the DOTU cover? Let me clear that up; we all know which four people they are, but what order are they in? My guess is left to right: Kim, Ben, Chris, Matt. This is, of course, open to debate. Nate ------------------------------ Subject: Re: a change From: seth > Along these lines, does anyone have any guesses as to the actual > identities of the four silhouttes on the DOTU cover? Let me clear > that up; we all know which four people they are, but what order are > they in? My guess is left to right: Kim, Ben, Chris, Matt. > > This is, of course, open to debate. I'd be willing to bet that it's Kim, Chris, Ben, and Matt, from left to right. (I did bet someone, and I think it's high time he paid up) When you look at the "Pretty Noose" single, Chris and Ben are standing similar to the way that figures 2 and 3 are standing on DOTU. In fact, it even looks like they could be wearing almost the same clothing for both pictures. seth ------------------------------ Subject: Re: a change From: "Matthew Lawrence" > Along these lines, does anyone have any guesses as to the actual > identities of the four silhouttes on the DOTU cover? Let me clear > that up; we all know which four people they are, but what order are > they in? My guess is left to right: Kim, Ben, Chris, Matt. My take on it was Kim, Chris, Ben, Matt.. Although I'm not so sure about which way round Chris and Matt are.. The 3rd guy is too skinny to be anyone but Ben, IMHO.. Matt ------------------------------ From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" Subject: call me weird but... OK, call me weird, but I just thought of a question that I'm curiosu about--is anyone on this list from Italy? Having spent most of my 10 day Easter break in Italia, I have to say I loved the country. Didn't hear any Soundgarden on the radio tho. Our driver played the radio quite a bit. So I was just wondering if we had any list members there. Just email me privately. ciao...deb /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mercyhurst Preparatory School Keeping you connected in 1995! /\/\/\/\/\(C)1995TMK/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ From: jaime Gonzalez Subject: Re: the satellite show, expensive hobbies, a change seth wrote: > > I did listen to the satellite broadcast the other night, and > Soundgarden were funny as usual. The questions they were asked were > intoned as if being read from cue cards, though, so the dialogue > between the band and the audience was not very lively. For those ofSeth Was the broadcast only 1 hour long or was it longer and if so,how much longer was it?I was under the impression that the broadcast would playing all the songs off the new album.the radiostation that delivered the satellite broadcast was only one hour long including commercials. I taped the show so I guess I recorded 45 to 50 minutes not including commercials.I have not actually counted the number of songs I taped but I guess it was about 6-9 songs. Q94.9 stated that the broadcast would begin at 10 pm but it did'nt begin until about 10:15pm.The station had just begun playing Smashing pumpkins song Zero.about 30 seconds into it the Broadcast began. ------------------------------ From: "J.Molton" Hi!Just writing to welcome myself to the sg mailing list as this is my first day on it.I'm a 19yr old student(20 on saturday) and an avid sg fan. Holding out for DOTU for the next 5 days and would just like to voice my total agreeance with Brydon Cheyneys' Oasis views. wishing myself a Happy Birthday TA TA Jon ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: Re: a change At 02:40 PM 5/15/96 EDT, you wrote: >I'd be willing to bet that it's Kim, Chris, Ben, and Matt, from left >to right. (I did bet someone, and I think it's high time he paid up) >When you look at the "Pretty Noose" single, Chris and Ben are standing >similar to the way that figures 2 and 3 are standing on DOTU. In >fact, it even looks like they could be wearing almost the same >clothing for both pictures. > Ok, I agree with you now. You can also compare to the photo on the right hand inside cover, where ID's are easier to determine. You can see Chris is wearing the long coat that matches with the 2nd figure on the front cover. Nate glad I didn't put any $ on it. ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: the broadcast Matt? REally? so are you telling me the look alike in my town might not look at all like him now? Oh well. they sounded so cool(calm) and nice on the radio, were they really at all like that? And did Chris act like this big rock star as some people say that he acts like? I don't think he changed from being not pompus to being it in a course of 2 years? (I met the band in '94 at a concert) "I'm a preety noose and damn proud of it" ------------------------------ From: Moonsta693@aol.com Subject: Re: Mtv's SG special If it was last night I'll die. Hopefully the 90 min. special would be on the 21st. 'cause that would be more of an offical date to show soundgarden is back in full effect. If you find out anything, inform me plezze! ------------------------------ From: Henric Carlsson Subject: Stuck on sticker I got my hands on DOTU yesterday, and of course it had that annoying sticker on the cover "... featuring Pretty Noose blah blah ..." Question is; should I remove it? I remember there was one on Superunknown too... ... WAS ... - --------------------------------------------------------------- [ Henric Carlsson ] [ A nam nam? ] [ University of Karlstad ] [ A nam! ] [ el4heca@stud.hks.se ] [ - Caramba '81 ] - --------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Enrique Olavarria Subject: DOTU cd. my hat and shoes always match, is it luck? i received an email on April 27 from a friend in Bogota, Colombia (i was in college over there from 1993 to 1995). he said he had seen the new soundgarden cd in a store (hes a soundgarden fan too, but he thought the cd had already been released and emailed me thinking i already had it); but he didnt have money so he didnt buy it. first thing i thought: this is impossible, he must have seen the pretty noose single, so i emailed him with the complete description of the single cover and the DOTU cover. he was in the middle of finals so i didnt receive a response until today. he did see the DOTU cd! he described the cover and said it was in a cardboard box (digipak?????). he was surprised the release date was may 21. so this colombian store got the digipak extremely early... and this guy didnt even buy it (i wish i still lived there). he told me he would go and get it right away so he must have it right now unless they already sold every copy they had, which wouldnt be strange. how the hell does a south american record store get a DOTU digipak and start selling it nearly a month before the release date??? and why is it a store in bogota, colombia (where i lived several months ago) and not in lima, peru (where i now live)?. someone? enrique. ps. i finally saw the PN video last weekend on mtv latino (it premiered on sunday). my second favourite soundgarden video. (black hole sun is first, although i never really liked the song that much). "spanish bombs yo te quiero y finito yo te quiero, oh mi corazon" - joe strummer (the clash) ------------------------------ From: SoundGrdn3@aol.com Subject: details, as requested! Hey no problem, I'd love to tell you guys about the broadcast! So, we got to the studio at about 5, and we went into this room full of couches and bar stools. We listened to DoTU approx. 1.5 times. It's real good, as I suppose you already know. There were about 40 people there, I'd say. There was food and beer and soft drinks, all for free. Everyone was drinking a lot of beer, except me because I'm not legally old enough, and that is enough to stop me. Then at about 6:50 we went into this room with a wooden floor that was covered with pillows. There were also about 4 folding chairs in the back. Behind every pillow was four headsets. So we hung out there for awhile and the producer told us not to take pictures, etc.. Then my friend was like, "It's Matt." And I look and Matt is 5 feet away from me. He came in through this door in the back. At the front of this room was a booth with 2 sliding glass doors. There was a table and 5 chairs in there. And a lava lamp was on the table. There were lava lamps all over the studio. So, Matt goes into the little booth. When he got to the front of the room he was like, "Hey". Then the rest of the band did the same. We listened to the broadcast on the headsets. During commercials the band would talk to each other, until about halfway through, Ben and Matt opened the doors. Then they'd stick their heads out and talk to us a bit. If you hear this chair squeaking on the broadcast, it was Matt's. In case anyone wants to know, Matt Pinfield was at the head of the table, Chris and Matt were on the left side (OUR left), and Ben and Kim were on the right. Matt and Ben were sitting right next to the door, and Chris and Kim were closer to Matt P.. After we sat through the Australian broadcast we had a meet and greet session. We were allowed to get one object autographed, one picture taken with the band (if you brought a camera) and then basically you were supposed to leave. However, Matt offered to sign two things for me, and that was pretty cool. We were talking about drumming and playing guitar for awhile, and then the producer got mad at me and made me leave because other people wanted to talk to the band. I didn't actually talk to Chris. He kind of nodded at me, but that's about it. Ben like mumbled "Hey", and Kim was joking around with me a bit. Of course Matt was really nice. I'm sure if I had tried to talk with Chris he would have been polite. He seems like it. When I was at Susan Silver's office on Valentine's Day, he sent in this huge vase completely full of roses, so I get the idea he's a pretty nice guy. I guess some of you want to know what everyone was wearing. I didn't really see Chris...sorry. When I get my film developed I'll tell you. I know he was wearing a baseball cap. Matt was wearing khakis, a red plaid flannel (buttoned, kind of giving off a farmer effect), and his denim jacket that's kind of too small. Ben was wearing jeans and a denim jacket that wasn't too small, and Kim was wearing a long sleeve t-shirt that said NOFX all down the sleeves, and on the front. It was black with white writing. How's that for detail? If anyone wants more just let me know!!! ------------------------------ From: "Greg Dunbar" Subject: Re: Welcome to SOMMS Digest Hello all, I am just new on the net and Soundgarden was the first thing that I looked up! I've never been around here before so I'll introduce myself by saying that I'm Greg, I'm 16, from Ballarat in Australia and a majorly big Soundgarden fan! I'm eagerly awaiting the 20th of May when Down On The Upside is released down here. I've heard Pretty Noose and Dusty and I reckon that if they are an indication of whats to come then it should be an awesome album. Other bands I'm into are Metallica, Alice In Chains, Sepultura, Monster Magnet, White Zombie and more. My brother Brett who is 14 is also into Soundgarden so say hi to him if you want, and one of my good buds named Robert is also a Soundgarden man, who is into stuff like Black Sabbath, Cathedral and Alice In Chains (he doesn't have e-mail so leave messages if you want to.) Okay I'll say goodbye now and look forward to hearing from Soundgarden legends from all over the place! Rock Hard!, Greg Dunbar - ------------------------------------------------------------- greg@lin.cbl.com.au ------------------------------ Subject: the Cambridge report From: seth I know there are a bunch of you on the list from the Boston/Cambridge area, so I figured this might be of interest to someone. I traveled around in search of SG goodies today, and this is what I found: Newbury Comics (The Garage, Harvard Square) - ------------------------------------------- 5 copies of "Pretty Noose" version 1 (CD5 box with poster). $10. 5 copies of "Pretty Noose" version 2 (CD5). $10. They have no more copies of the DOTU vinyl but claim to have more on the way. Second Coming Records (Mass. Ave.) - ---------------------------------- 1 "Pretty Noose" radio promo CD5. $3. 1 "Spoonman" 12" on clear vinyl. Sealed. $7. 1 "Flower" EP on black vinyl. Sealed. $7. 1 BMF/SOMMS (this is the wrong BMF disc; it should say "DISK 1"). $25. 1 Superuninterview promo CD. $30. A ton of Superunknown singles (some jewel boxes, some Digipaks). More CD boots than anyone could ever want. Mystery Train (Mass. Ave.) - -------------------------- 1 Seattle 1990 CD boot. $24. In Your Ear (Mt. Auburn St.) - ---------------------------- 1 Truly "Heart and Lungs" CD EP. Sealed. $3. Looney Tunes (Mass. Ave.) has nothing, and neither does Newbury Comics in the MIT Student Center (though that's where I picked up DOTU on vinyl earlier). Hope this was useful to someone. seth ------------------------------ From: allo1@student.monash.edu.au Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 15 May 1996 It's not fair.... I won't see it for at least a week (or two?) and have to rely on randomly interspersed bits on tha radio. Yay! ------------------------------ From: ThNrthFace@aol.com Subject: Re: a change Nate wrote: >Along these lines, does anyone have any guesses as to the actual >identities of the four silhouttes on the DOTU cover? Let me clear >that up; we all know which four people they are, but what order are >they in? My guess is left to right: Kim, Ben, Chris, Matt. Personally, I think it's Kim, Chris, Ben, Matt. The third person could be only Matt, because no one else in the band has quite such skinny legs. At least that's my take on it. Aaron ThNrthFace@aol.com ------------------------------ Subject: Re: the satellite show, expensive hobbies, a change From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > Does anyone have any theories on the sudden flurry of band photos on > Soundgarden's material? The DOTU cover is the first to obviously > depict all four members, and the CD itself has a plain group shot > printed on it. The "Pretty Noose" singles are the same; all 3 versions > and the radio promo have the band shot on the front. I guess I kind of > miss the stuff that didn't so clearly have the band on it, like the > covers to Superunknown and any of its singles, because they always > featured cool graphics... But Seth, the cover really doesn't show the band in full face... Its just shadows and even we can't agree on which is which (Chris or Matt). I love the vinyl, I love "RECORDS". Do you know I haven't even played it yet!!! I have just open it and looked at it, drinking in the colors, the images, the words (in large print thank God - I hate trying to read the lyrics on a jewel box). No little CD will ever take the place of a record and its jacket. But back to the pictures - the picture on the inside taken by Ben is wonderful - - it has so much going on. Look at it, where is the hall way leading, why the number "7" on the TV screen. The colors are they sunset or sunrise? The little squares with the tape(?) what does this mean?? On the front cover the bottom half of the picture - the same trees from "Superunknown" now burning with success, passion, what??? The top of the picture more fire or those fireworks displays that look like a waterfall!!! The back cover - an empty billboard from an old theater - memories of past days when the band was just beginning and playing in small out of the way bar!!!. Come on this jacket is filled with so much graphics and images it will take a life time to come up with all the idea that it produces in one's mind. I feel that "Applebite" is the song that the cover art comes from. The song has an eerier feel to it - like the cover it hides in the shadows - "No one can save - The pure or the brave - No one can save them at all - Grown and decay" Jamie ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: details, as requested! Yes, me again. I need more detail. You can't just toss out "When I was at Susan Silver's office on Valentine's Day..." yadda...yadda...without an intro., a body of substantive text and a conclusion, know what I mean?!?!? -Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ I'm sure if I had tried to talk with Chris he would have been polite. He seems like it. When I was at Susan Silver's office on Valentine's Day, he sent in this huge vase completely full of roses, so I get the idea he's a pretty nice guy. How's that for detail? If anyone wants more just let me know!!! ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: DOTU now I'm listening to Down on the Upside right now on my newly acquired black vinyl. There is a sticker on the plastic wrap which says "Limited Edition Vinyl" I wonder how limited it is. I hope CDNOW sends me a coloured one!Vinyl doesn't sound that bad! Ty Cobb is playing right now. It rules!! I have to say I do hear some Beatles (Blow up the outside world) and psychedelia on the album. So long and thanks for all the fish, Geoff ------------------------------ From: Gonzo Subject: Re: Fresh Deadly Tendrills CD At 07:59 PM 5/14/96 -0400, you wrote: >I Found 2 copies of this excellent recoding at WHR.So,I picked up one for Correction in order,I made a Typo on the title of the Boot cd in the subject field of my previous message.That should have read "Fresh Deadly Rarities" Gonzo-You Idiot Jaime Gonzalez Computer Repair Technician Engineering Services Michigan State University 505 Computer Center 353-5266 JGG@pilot.msu.edu FAX:517/3536506 ------------------------------ From: SoundGrdn3@aol.com Subject: Re: details, as requested! In a message dated 96-05-15 19:40:21 EDT, vikki writes: > You can't just toss out > "When I was at Susan Silver's office on Valentine's Day..." > yadda...yadda...without an intro., a body of substantive > text and a conclusion, know what I mean?!?!? intro: I was at her office on the 14th because we had to do this school project where we choose a professional in a field that we are interested and we follow them around for awhile. I chose Susan. body of substantive text: It was fun. I got to walk her 3 pomeranians with her and we talked about managing bands, obviously. Also I got to look through this Soundgarden scrapbook-virtually every article ever written on the band. I was in heaven! conclusion: So I went to Susan Silver's on Valentine's Day (this was the day that the school made us go on). I would've written more in the first place, but realize that I have a lot of homework. I still have a few hours left. Will that be all for you? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: DOTU now From: seth Speaking of DOTU vinyl, has anyone found it on the rumored clear vinyl? seth ------------------------------ From: blawson@vvm.com (Bryan T. Lawson) Subject: Tell Me What It's Like Here in Killeen, Texas (the asshole of the world), the earliest date DOTU will be availvble is May 21st. Every time I mention DOTU to someone, they seem to have no idea what the hell I'm talking about. I've heard "Pretty Noose" a few times on the radio, but I am being deprived of the rest of the ablum. WHAT DOES IT SOUND LIKE??? Only six more days until I can own DOTU, guys, don't keep me in suspense!! Will I just "like" it, or will I have to buy a spare copy in case the first one goes tits-up? XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX Bryan Lawson, U.S. Army, Ft. Hood, TX. Pro-tecting yer nation as well as yer music. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: wtf.. Does anyone know where New Music Express is located exactly? I'm going to do something to them that's just a little more serious than a stink bomb in the elevator. I quote, "'Nothign seems to kill me no matter how hard I try'-try a shotgun, you dick"? What the fuck is this fucking bullshit? What size dildoes do these puppies have up their asses? I thought I was pissed off before, but Jesus Christ, what a bunch of fucking bungholes. I wish that they all suffer miserable painful disfiguring car accidents and are doomed to suffer the rest of their pathetic lives on a bed in motherfucking traction. A shotgun, eh? Something tells me I'm going to be mailing my bazooka and a plane ticket to Chris Cornell with a nice little note saying "Take care of this for me." Of course, saying all this is probably illegal, but right now I'm half past give a shit. Champagne. ...If you have no idea what I'm talking about, read the New Music Express review of DOTU on Seth's page. I wonder if anyone else is as pissed off as I am. I mean, if you hate the album, great, but if you're telling Chris Cornell to kill himself then you're a fucking pathetic asshole as far as I am concerned and I wish several painful diseases on you. I wish you to be run over by a city bus. I wish... ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re[2]: details, as requested! Hi again. It's Vikki. I didn't mean to sound crass, but when your lucky enough to experience SG and a bit of the people most closely involved in their success first-hand, how can you think listees wouldn't clamor for snippets of detail? Of course I understand that your busy. And I DO appreciate the details you provided. All I ask is that if anyone is in a rush to post some interesting tidbits, and you don't have the time to write an epic, just include a little P.S. that says 'More details when I have more time'. Thanks Again. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: SoundGrdn3@aol.com at nylanr01 I would've written more in the first place, but realize that I have a lot of homework. I still have a few hours left. Will that be all for you? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: the satellite show, expensive hobbies, a change From: seth > But back to the pictures - the picture on the inside taken by Ben is > wonderful - - it has so much going on. Look at it, where is the hall > way leading, why the number "7" on the TV screen. The colors are they > sunset or sunrise? The little squares with the tape(?) what does this > mean?? The little squares each represent a page of the liner notes for the CD, though in the CD they're all in color, and every two-page spread is one photo comprised of two "squares." The lyrics are printed on top of these graphics. There are a total of 13 pages with the tape graphic on them in the CD liner (6 2-page spreads and 1 page by itself), so 3 of the squares in the vinyl are duplicates. You'll see that the liner notes are much different than they were in Superunknown, where each page had a different background. Now every page has the same theme. It does look very professionally done, very slick... seth ------------------------------ From: COCHRAN_BONNIE/SBCTC@ctc.ctc.edu Subject: I Got It (but still haven't seen PN vid) I'm so excited! I called two record stores in town about the vinyl last night. Disc Jockey didn't get any but said Wherehouse did. Called them and they got 10 for $12.99. I asked if they hold stuff for people and she said yes (really?). Guess no one around here really cares. (That's why I need the list!) Goodie for me though. I went in today and, of course, she didn't put it under the counter but at 12:00 p.m. today they had only sold three. I bought two (one for a friend and one for me) and wasn't sure if I should get a second one for myself. I guess with no one else buying them, I have time to go back and get it if I want to. Also, I taped (on a crappy boom box) a separate show that KISW (Seattle 99.9) put on the same day AND time as the satellite broadcast (which I didn't get on tape because my partner flaked -- can anyone help me out and copy it for me?). They played: Cover Tunes: 1. Don't Care About You - Fear 2. Girl U Want - Devo 3. Can You See Me - Jimi Hendrix 4. Come Together - The Beatles 5. I Can't Give You Anything (i think) - The Ramones European B-Sides/Rarities: 1. Fresh Deadly Roses 2. Cold Bitch 3. She's A Politician 4. Exit Stonehenge 5. A Re-mix of Spoonman (without the spoons) 6. Heretic 7. Blind Dogs 8. Sub Pop Rock City DOTU: 1. Pretty Noose 2. Rhinosaur 3. Dusty 4. Blow Up the Outside World 5. Burden in My Hand 6. Applebite 7. Never the Machine Forever 8. Tighter and Tighter 9. No Attention 10. Boot Camp And comments and stuff from the guys in between the songs and commercials. They are so funny! Seth asked me to type up their comments, which I will do. It may take a while, because I'm swamped at work (oh yeah, than why I am posting to the list when I have so much to do? I have my priorities, dammit!), but it will get done. That's why I would like the national one, because I heard pieces of it running back and forth trying to tape one and listen to the other. I caught Chris saying, "do what you fucking want," which was just priceless. And of course, the happy little comment, "my dancing partner threw up." I thought it was Chris, but read it was someone else. Okay, one more thing for now. Anyone else have trouble getting a response from PJ Starr on requesting Sg compilation videos? I haven't heard back and it's been a few days. I guess I'll just have to make repeated requests. Probably all the referrals from the list, eh? If anyone responds to anything I said, please e-mail me directly. Thanks. Bonnie ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: Size 9 in my mouth... Yah I know I have big feet, so what? Anyway I would like to apologise for going nuclear about the Oasis bashing thing. I happen to like Oasis (though the day they compare to Soundgarden is the day I have Chris Cornell's kid) and so the reason I thought people were bashing Oasis was because of my handle and I wanted to get things straight that I'm using this handle cause of KEVIN, KEVIN, KEVIN. I read the NME review and you can all see my thoughts on that :) DIE DIE DIE! Ok, Soundgarden time, a lot of people have heard DOTU now, so fess up, what's yer favorite new song? Mine is probably either Never The Machine Forever or Switch Opens.. tough call.. Zero Chance is really good too... picking a favorite Soundgarden song is so damn.. hard :) Rusty Cage is my all time favorite though :) Anyway... Champagne. ...I really wanted to hear Bleed Together cause it has a fukking awesome title, but alas. Maybe it'll b a B-side like Blind Dogs was. ------------------------------ From: Tim Miller Subject: Q107 interview/bye fer the summer last friday night i was delivering drugs (noone get excited... i work at a pharmacy ;) and i was listening to Q107 out of toronto and they played some of an interview that a dj there had done with sg about a month or so ago. i was thrilled... now i had an excuse to do nothing but park the car in a lot and listen to the radio. in the portion i heard the dj guy was asking the guys why there was so much anger in their music. chris responded with something like "if you wake up in the morning and start thinking, then you realize that you have plenty to be angry about." when the dj asked him to name some songs from the new album that displayed some sort of anger, chris named at least 5 or 6 songs, and i don't think i remember any of them except pretty noose, blow up..., and rhinosaur(?). there were more. i'm really racking my brain trying to remember what was said. i know there was more but i can't remember right now. i thought there might be some people that'd be interested in that juicy tidbit. well, my last exam comes the day of the DOTU release on cd, so after i scratch out my last physics problem, i'm heading to pick it up, and then i'll have plenty of time to listen to it. i'll only be able to check my mail every other week or so after tuesday, so naturally i won't be able to keep up w/ somms. i'll be back in september, so enjoy your summer, but more importantly enjoy the new soundgarden. i'll be cranking it all summer, and well into next year! - -tim ps- for you traders out there, i am still looking for a decent '94 sg show, so if you have one let me know and we can arrange a trade. ------------------------------ From: champagne.supernova@thenexus.com Subject: OhYeah... Just out of curiosity, out of everyone who already has DOTU, who else has been listening to it OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER again? C'mon, I can't be the only one :) The only time I haven't listened to it is to tape a couple bootlegs for someone and to listen a couple songs off the new RATM. Champagne. ------------------------------ From: SoundGrdn3@aol.com Subject: Re: Re[2]: details, as requested! In a message dated 96-05-15 21:08:26 EDT, vikki writes: > Hi again. It's Vikki. I didn't mean to sound crass, but > when your lucky enough to experience SG and a bit of the > people most closely involved in their success first-hand, > how can you think listees wouldn't clamor for snippets of > detail? Of course I understand that your busy. And I DO > appreciate the details you provided. All I ask is that if > anyone is in a rush to post some interesting tidbits, and > you don't have the time to write an epic, just include a > little P.S. that says 'More details when I have more time'. > Thanks Again. > Hey no problem. Besides, I probably owed everyone on this list a detailed description of the event! Hope everyone is satisfied! If anyone wants more info, just let me know! Oh and you asked earlier about the environment of the studio. Like that one studio audience member said, it was stuffy. Really hot. There was a fan in there but the producer wouldn't let us turn it on because it was too loud! We put it on during songs and commercial breaks--basically just whenever we all had the headsets off. Well, that's it for now! ------------------------------ Subject: Re: dropping this mailing list From: Ben Timberlake >hi. i just wanted to let you guys know that i'm describing from this >mailing list because i think it's much too gossipy and vapid. >nonetheless, i admire you for your admiration of soundgarden, but when will >people stop talking about getting chris into bed and the cuteness of >matt? whatever. have fun being vapid, you vipers. I, for one, will not miss you and your comments Fleur. If there is (was) any inarticulate, vapid, worthless member of this list, it was you. -- Ben Ben Timberlake "The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est, Northwestern University Pro patria mori." Medill School of Journalism -- Wilfred Owen btimlake@nwu.edu -30- *Check out my dorm's web page!* http://www.stuaff.nwu.edu/crc/ Nothing looks more guilty than an unaccused man proclaiming his innocence. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Someone help me!!!!!!!!!! Sommites, Can someone please pick up a copy of dotu on vinyl for me? Just email me and we can make the arrangements. My local record store said they were going to get the album on vinyl but there was some kind of delay. I can't believe this is happening. Cd now gave me some crap about there could be a wait because it's limited edition. I have to get this album. Anyway on a more introspective note, in regards to the dumbass rolling stone reviewer. Remember this, these are the same guys who called superunk a Led Zepplin tribute album. Let me drown mabye but 4th of july? Thease are also the same bastards that think that alannis morrisette is an actual musician. So lets not get all bent out of shape over that one. Number two mabye sg didn't break new ground on the new album, but lets us all not forget that totd didn't break any new ground either but it's one of the greatest albums of all time. Number two ultramega ok wasn't all that innovative either but it still gave us btw. Louder than love was an excellent hard rock album not as eclectic as experimental as superunk but still a great record. Bmf imho with the exceptions of jcp and slabd wasn't anywhere near as innovative as superunk but I think and I also think that alot of you would agree it was still one of the greatest albums ever. My point here is sg doesn't have to reinvent rock music as we know to make an incredible album. Just the fact that Ben alot of songs shows the band moving in a new direction, those of us that have heard hater and show me know that besides songs like half and head down ben just likes to rock. Irregardless it's not neccessary to redifine music for sg to make a new album. But remember this 95%+ people on the list have said they didn't really lik or think much of the album first off. I hated btw, fresh tendrills, fourth of july, jcp, limo wreck etc etc when I first heard them. Months went by before I put back in the player and dropped a load at our boys musical geinus. The album hasn't been out for a week yet. Don't fret over this whole new ground thing. Besides everyone who has heard it so far likes it and I know you guys aren't bhs singing hootie loving teeny boppers. So I can't wait to hear it. -Clown ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: just a broadcast in my hand... On Wed, 15 May 1996, lee the bee wrote: > Just a question about all the broadcast shows etc. I assume they had them at > one venue and all the radio stations got a feed from there at some time > Just wondering what was played in the US and how different it was too the > Austalian show. as you may have already gathered lee, the australian interview was different to the american (and canadian) interview. because costa does the 3 hours of power (metal show) out of brisbane, it was brisbane people that got to ask teh questions to the band. two of them were from skinnys, and the rest were from other music stores around brisbane. I think it was done just before the 'real' one in america was aired. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Online with the Gods... Well kiddies, as my good friend, the ever so demented Geek Girl, has already announced, SOUNDGARDEN is going to be doing one of those infuriating online interviews with Rockline on June 10!! Which means you people have to dig out the good old AOL disks again!! Unless you can access the interview over the 'net. But if you can't, then I guess I'll be seeing y'all here!! Ain't life just grand!!! The eternally unvapid and ever vivacious Shroom - - I shall never stop worshipping Chris sexy body, and I already know what I'm going to ask him in the online interview... heheheh... I doubt he'll answer though... ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Size 9 Poop Shoot. CH>a lot of people have heard DOTU now, so fess up, what's yer favorite new CH>song? Mine is probably either Never The Machine Forever I love this song. It's so...so...interesting. Kim must have the best rhythm ever. And so must Chris, Matt, and Ben, for playing it with him. Every time Matt goes, "Rat-tat-tat" or something like that, the beat turns around. It's great. I played a song like that in high school marching band, but the woodwinds fucked it up, because they have no rhythm at all. CH> Zero Chance is really good too... Yes. I like this song, too. I also love Ty Cobb (I finally got my dad outta the record player room to hear it), and the guitar solo in Ty Cobb kicks ass, too. I just love the mandolin and mandola (is that it?) in that song. It reminds me of the banjo in the Dukes of Hazzard theme song (by the ever so great Waylon Jennings). Pretty Noose is growing on me so much. And so is Dusty. That song is just filled with soul. In fact, Chris puts a lot of soul into the vocals on this record. But there doesn't seem to be as much emotion, but I'm sure I'll eat those words soon, after I listen to it a lot more. I still miss Chris' wails, which there don't seem to be a lot of. He sings high a lot, but he doesn't punch those shots of vocals right in your face like he used to (I'll probably eat that soon, too). Well, anyway, I love the album. It still depends on what mood I'm in, if I have to pic a favorite album or song, though. Nothingman -I guess I should go spell pick right...nah, fuck it. It adds charachter. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Fucking Video CH>Just out of curiosity, out of everyone who already has DOTU, who else CH>has been listening to it OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER and OVER CH>again? I'm guilty. Nothingman -And I haven't seen the fucking video yet, either. ------------------------------ From: j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu Subject: ozzy tour I JUST SAW OZZY TUESDAY NIGHT IN CHARLOTTE.. FRONT ROW!!!! Sepultura opened with a kick ass set. They were tight as hell... Type O played second, they were weird.... OZZY WAS AWESOME!!!! he does more than write great songs, he is a humorist and showman, this show is a must see.. After the first song, some girl tossed a bra on stage, he picked it up and said, "what are you laughing at, i collect these fucking things." It was just an awesome show! songs included: paranoid goodbye to romance perry mason bark at the moon mr. crowley i just want you children of the grave iron man sabbath bloody sabbath crazy train no more tears i don't want to change the world mama, i'm coming home war pigs i don't know suicide solution well... either thats all, or i'm missing just a few songs.. but anyway, it was just totally awesome :) jeremy ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: An Unkind and other DOTU ramblings I just noticed how fucking awesome this song is... the chorus sent shivers up my spine just now... much like what 4th of July does to me. This is my favorite song at the moment... If you've heard Wellwater Conspiracy thing you know its obviuos that Chris is trying to sing like Ben in this one... A few things I'd like to say: 1. IMHO Bootcamp is reminicent of "Full On (reprise)" in the way that the guitar starts out playing bluesy stuff with the band and drums kicking in at one point. It also has a definite Pink Floyd feel/sound to it... 2. Tighter & Tighter reminds me of Blind Dogs, anyone else think this? 3. I also found that alot of the songs sound like they could be on a Hater album (the Ben Shepherd tunes particularly) 4. This album is fucking awesome... after about 3 listens I totally got into the groove of it... much like how Superunknown was the first few times... There aren't any songs that dissapoint me. I am definitely gonna get it on CD next Tuesday. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 126] ****************************************