From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 12 May 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 12 May 1996 00:25:34 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 12 May 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Chicago Radio For those who can't wait... Ok.. I'm gonna try this.. Re:The coolest thing just happened I awake Mailman I awake (fwd): right on, clown SL/FOPP VS. UMOK Pretty Noose vid in Canada heheheh... Quick Comment Hello All! BHS and Mailman Re: SL/FOPP VS. UMOK ------------------------------------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: Chicago Radio And for those of you bout' a hundred miles north here in Milwaukee, be tuned in to 102.9... ------------------------------ From: stella rogers Subject: For those who can't wait... I know the album is coming out in a few days, and that most of you have already heard or even have the album. But those of you who haven't and want to get an idea of what Applebite and An Unkind sound like, I've posted some wavs on my homepage. The addy is: http://www.fix.net/~srogers/sndgrdn.html I haven't tested it to see if it works so if you can't seem to download them from there email me and I'll try to fix it. oh yeah BTW, they are kinda bad samples since they were recorded in 8 bit mono. Anyways...have fun u guys. stellar <==============================================> email: srogers@fix.net personal homepage: http://www.fix.net/~srogers/ <==============================================> ------------------------------ From: never.named@thenexus.com Subject: Ok.. I'm gonna try this.. I hope this works out ok.. Here's my song by song review of Down On The Upside... Pretty Noose: We've already heard this song, most of us anyway :) Very good, kinda reminiscent of Alice in Chains and Nirvana. Little. Yellow. Different. Rhinosaur: I like this song (duh). It RAWKS. I do like the solo, but I guess I could see why Seth doesn't :) It's got a cool riff... Zero Chance: This song didn't really affect me at first, but now I love it. It's slow.. someone said it is reminiscent of Fell On Black Days I think but it doesn't really remind me of that.. it's in the same vein though.. of slow, depressing music.. it's got some clean guitar in it.. it's not heavy.. it's cool though.. It's like TOTD, I'll go with that. Dusty: This kinda reminds me of Head Down, a little weeenie tiny bit. He says "I'm down on the upside" quite a bit on this song... Ty Cobb: I first heard this song (sort of) on the Reading bootleg, but I didn't really like it then. I heard it on the tape on the way home last night and all of a sudden my gas pedal hit the floor :) If you're going to drive to this song, do it on a clear highway :) It's really.. hyper is the way I'd describe it.. I was screaming "I'M HARDHEADED FUCK YOU ALL!" in the car.. wonder what everone outside thought :) Great GREAT song. Blow Up The Outside World: Well, we all know that this song is amazing.. cause everyone else is raving about it :) It is a great song.. At the end he sings "Blow up the outside" a lot.. I like it. I think I like the beginning better though.. Burden In My Hand: This'll get overplayed, Steve was right.. I do like it.. What you hear when you call that fone number is I think the chorus, because it's repeated a few times.. but I'm not sure cause Soundgarden is really.... weird :) Never Named: This song is hyper too, I think. It's short and fast. But it's great. Didn't Ben write this? I don't have the record nearby.. Bleh. Applebite: I love this song. You can't hear the vocals all that well, but it has this really cool guitar (I dunno if you acn call it a riff cause he's playing a couple of notes, no chords or anything) part in it. It's awesome.. :) Never The Machine Forever: Oh my God, I can't understand why anyone else is raving about this song! Beatlesque my ass! That review of DOTU in Guitar I typed up.. the reviewer must have been on drugs. This song is AWESOME.. It's heavy.. I think it's my favorite Soundgarden song.. and everone knows how I feel about Jesus Christ Pose :) OH MY GOD! Tighter & Tighter: Another cool, heavy song. It's got a riff with harmonics in it, a la Heretic and Limo Wreck. I like it. I like it a lot, dammit. No Attention: Well, it's basically the same thing as the Self Pollution version, except different lyrics, and longer. I like the DOTU one better cause it's longer :) It's fast and riffy. It's a good song. Switch Opens: This is really cool. It's kinda mellow.. Reminds me of something from the sixties :) But it's awesome... Hey, what's wrong with the sixties? Overfloater: You think I'd be partial to this song cause it's my handle :) But while I like it, it's not my favorite on the album. It's a good song.. mellow.. I like in the chorus, he says "I'm overfloating" and then his voice is distorted and he sings "alone, alone, alone, alone" really fast. The chorus is heavy. It's got a bit of harmonics in it. And it's got organ (Rhodes piano I guess). Nice... :) An Unkind: I really like this song as well. It's fast. It left an impression on me.. (shows bootprint on the buttock area) I can't really describe it that well cause I don't remember exactly what it sounds like, but I remember that it's fast and I really really like it. Boot Camp: Whoever said that this starts out like an epic, like Like Suicide, and then just dies out was right.. The way he's singing it reminds me of the Police (SORRY! That's what it makes me think of! And that wasn't an insult cause hey, I *LIKE* the Police! And so did Chris at one point!) Ok.. Well, all in all, if youre disappointed by this album, go to the nearest fone, dial 911. Explain to them that you need THE MEN IN THE WHITE COATS to take you to the SANNY-TARIUM because You are Sick In The Head because You Don't Like The New Soundgarden Album. I love it. My favorites are An Unkind, Switch Opens, Tighter & Tighter, Zero Chance, Applebite and Never The Machine Forever. I wonder how all this is gonna come across live :) Sorry I couldn't do a better review of this, but I think to do a good review, I'd need the CD :) So I can listen to a bit of a song, write about it, and then move on to the next song.. You're saying "Why don't you do that with your record Erin you Silly Bitch?" Cause I don't have a record player, Silly :) I had to tape it :) YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE THIS RECORD! IF NOT, YOURE FUKKING INSANE AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED! You'd better buy TWO copies of DOTU.. along with a new record/tape/CD player.. :) ------------------------------ From: Grant Asher Subject: Re:The coolest thing just happened OK, here is the info on the UK single. There are two singles available: 1)1. Pretty Noose 2.Applebite 3.An unkind 4.An interview with the band It comes in a box (the cover of which should be on Stephen Russell's =0Aweb= page since I sent a scan of it to him yesterday), which also contains =0Aa= poster and a postcard (they have the same design, which, again I sent =0At= o Stephen Russell for his web page). 2)1. Pretty Noose 2.Jerry Garcia's Finger (Very strange track!!!) Seth has the design for this single on his page. Both cd's say "part 2 of a 2 cd set" on them. I don't know why. Incidentally, they only cost me =A31.99 each ( think that that's about US = =0A$3). Hahahahahaha!!! BTW, don't want to sound like I'm gloating, but DOTU is scheduled to be =0A= released on the 20th in the UK, so I should get it a day (or at least a few= =0Ahours) earlier. Yippeeeeee!!!! :-) = =20 =20 Grant Asher ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: I awake Sommites, I finally saw the Pretty noose video, it was really weird. But I must say all of the descriptions I heard on the list were pretty accurrate, pertaining to the song and the video. As for the guy that said that Superunk was written to get sg more fans and to sell records. Lets be serious now, 2 million people bought bmf and that stage now one was really concerned that they were becoming commercial. 3 million bought superunk now you cannot believe they acquired more true fans because of that album. I have had MTV for the last 5 years, and I had heard of sg before but I really never got into before bhs sun came out. Now I have gone and bought the rest of the albums, without bhs superunk would have probably sold the same as bmf albeit it quietly. Now if 10% of the extra million who bought superunk became true fans would you begrudge them of that? Besides have you listned to superunk lately? They completely reeinvented themsleves, bmf was there first succesful album, why would you reinvent yourself to be more successfull, if you have something that already works? Besides have you listned to superunk lately? Who the hell ever heard of the a pop album where hardly any of the songs are in 4/4. I'm sure the record execs at A&M loved that, hell bhs is in 7/4 and it isn't that repitive it's got two minute and a half verses. Considering that the average pop song is only about 3 1/2 minutes long, I don't think they had casey's top 40 in mind when the wrote that song. Hell would you put limo wreck (15/8) on a pop album? I am really tired of people complaining that a band is selling out because they change they're style. They weren't immitating anyone else, so leave them alone. What the hell do you want bmf part 2- 8 for the next album? That would be selling out they already now thats successful. As for the new song, it isn't catchy or repititive, they don't show the band, it's less riff orientated, that sounds like pop to me. If you want to talk about pop tunes listen to the potusoa. Like little joe said just be glad a band you like new album is half as good as superunk let alone just as good. Clown ------------------------------ From: oponfam@cnsnet.com Subject: Mailman > But you know what it doesn't really matter, when I hear what > a sg song is about after I have already heard it and it already means > something to me. The song just gains an alternate meaning, mailman to me > will always mean the girlfriend I had last year second semester of my > freshman year. But I Just know that to chris it is about a psycho mailman. > Clown I agree, Clown. To me Mailman always makes me think of someone who's been shunned by a woman who thinks, or who he thinks thinks, she is better than him.("Hello don't you know me I'm the dirt beneath your feet, the most important fool you forgot to see") Now he's going to do something that she'll notice, but may get him in trouble.("I know I'm headed for the bottom") Maybe he's a stalker ("For all of the times when you made me disappear, this time I'm sure you will know that I'm here") And this verse: My place was beneath you but now I'm above And now I send you a message of love A simple reminder of what you won't see A future so holy without me. makes me think of John Hinkley and his love notes to Jody Foster and his attempt to kill Reagan to get her attention. I don't care how Chris has opened the song in concert, I just don't see the psycho mailman connection. "For all of your kisses turned to spit in my face For all that reminds me which is my place" just sounds more like someone going nuts over someone who doesn't return his affection. I guess its just that this song has a real sexy sound and feel to me that would be ruined if I thought it was about a mad postal worker. Just my 2cents. Kathie ------------------------------ From: Fleur Weinstock Subject: I awake (fwd): right on, clown hear, hear, for the clown speaks wise words. wisen up, you butts. love, fleur of buttrock university - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ClownWithBazooka Subject: I awake As for the guy that said that Superunk was written to get sg more fans and to sell records. Besides have you listned to superunk lately? Who the hell ever heard of the a pop album where hardly any of the songs are in 4/4. I'm sure the record execs at A&M loved that, hell bhs is in 7/4 and it isn't that repitive it's got two minute and a half verses. Considering that the average pop song is only about 3 1/2 minutes long, I don't think they had casey's top 40 in mind when the wrote that song. Hell would you put limo wreck (15/8) on a pop album? I am really tired of people complaining that a band is selling out because they change they're style. They weren't immitating anyone else, so leave them alone. What the hell do you want bmf part 2- 8 for the next album? That would be selling out they already now thats successful. Clown ------------------------------ From: rea49625@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu (Rebecca Agrait) Subject: SL/FOPP VS. UMOK hi, sorry if i offend any of you SOMMSters or if i dont live up to your standards but here i am. I am only 15 years old and dont have much money, i get a measly-ass allowance and dont have that much money to buy CDs. I have $30 saved up and $14 of those are already put away in the corner of my wallet just waiting for the 24th of may. I currently have Superunknown, BMF, and LTL. I havent heard many other soundgarden songs besides the ones on those cds except for 'show me' on no alternative. I was wondering which SG CD i should buy first, UM OK or SM/FOPP. i went to the shitty local record store and those are the only two they have other than the ones i have. I've heard entering and a snippet of nothing to say from encarta 95. i liked both of those a lot especially entering. but i always hear ppl talking about flower, nazi driver, and other songs of UM OK and i seldom hear talk about screaming life/fopp so i was wondering which one you guys would reccomend i get first, theyre both the same price btw. thanks a lot. p.s. am i the only one who doesnt like power trip? Hasswipee's Home Page http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~rea49625/ Inspirational Quote "Oh, look at me, I'm way cool. I'm off with my way cool friends to sniff floor wax." -Brian Krakow ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Pretty Noose vid in Canada I just saw the PN vid on Much Music! And it wasn't edited :) ha ha ha ha! Canada rules!! :) I have it on tape too so now I can carefully examine the vid. ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: heheheh... >-I wonder how long it will be till Shroom gets hate mail from Susan? Oh, it only took like two weeks before she started making death threats. Heheheh... >I think that's so funny. I mean, after Kurt Cobain killed himself, >people who hated him before all of a sudden started mourning. It's >like people need something to keep them down. But if Chris Cornell >killed himself, I doubt anyone would notice, except us, the dedicated >SOMMsters. And no one would kill themselves over it like they did with >Kurt, excpt maybe me and Shroom (who's left to idolize that's as >beautiful as Chris and wears a fork?). I, personally, would be devastated (sp?) if Chris died. We could go together, NM. You do me, and I'll do you... heheheh... And Chris is beyond beautiful... gorgeous, breathtaking, amazing, PERFECT... shall I go on? Shall I be more explicit? Heheheh... > -I might have to start idolizing (snicker) Billy Joe. And I could go for... Barry Manilow or something... No wait!! Mariah Carey... SHOOT ME!!! Shroom "We're pretty much drug-free when it comes to the legal stuff." ~ my best friend, Allen "Shroomy... where did you toss my pants last night?" ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Quick Comment All, Just quick a few quick comments, do you guys think that lately the members of soundgarden have been influenced by each other musically? PN sounds like a Ben Shepherd song but Chris wrote it, but hey Head Down and Somewhere are two of Chris's favorite songs. But they way that PN sounds kinda unsymetrical despite the fact that it's in 4/4 sounds like a definite Ben influence. Anyway thats all Clown "I don't care what you need, I don't care what you got" P.S. If your wondering how I thought of this I taped the video the other night, the lovely idalis was talking about sg on snl so I ran and grabbed a tape. Guess being on the track team has a practical use huh? Clown ------------------------------ From: aldrich9@nwlink.com (Aldrich) Subject: Hello All! Hello! I just signed up and I'm just dropping a line to say "hey". I learned about this list from my friend Dylan (jsharp@nwlink.com) who posts now and then. I hope I can contribute to the discussion. I really enjoyed their first album Superunknown! Their best song is Smells Like Ray Ban!!!!!!!!! See you later! ---Ryland Aldrich aldrich9@nwlink.com ------------------------------ From: SoundGrdn3@aol.com Subject: BHS and Mailman Okay, I watched it to see the Vedder thing, and in my opinion, Chris is imitating Vedder when he's singing "No one sings like you anymore". Is that the same part everyone else was thinking of? Mailman is such an amazing song. Matt is a terrific songwriter. Seems like the song could be about that postal worker. It's like about someone at the bottom of the social structure who's feeling sorry for themselves and wants to make everyone else regret it, in my opinion. ------------------------------ From: melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net Subject: Re: SL/FOPP VS. UMOK At 08:40 PM 5/11/96 EDT, Rebecca Agrait wrote: >hi, sorry if i offend any of you SOMMSters or if i dont live up to your >standards but here i am. Umm. Nobody here judges people as long as they are fans. >I was wondering which SG >CD i should buy first, UM OK or SM/FOPP. i went to the shitty local record >store and those are the only two they have other than the ones i have. I just got SL/FOPP tonight, and so far I like UMOK way better, but I'm sure Sl/FOPP will grow on me. Get UMOK I say. >p.s. am i the only one who doesnt like power trip? Umm...yes? Gregg ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 122] ****************************************