From: saperl@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 4 May 1996 Reply-To: saperl@mit.edu Date: Sat, 04 May 1996 03:26:50 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 4 May 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: "Pretty Noose" video Lolla 2nd stage announced Re: Mailman meaning SG INTERVIEW IN SPAIN Goodbye HIV Baby 7" Re: louder than love music db and other queries Re: Goodbye Re: SG INTERVIEW IN SPAIN Assorted varieties of stuff. Drugs, and an earthquake? Re: Drugs, and an earthquake? Re: Mailman meaning earthquake Re: i'm overfloating now...& its back and down and under... kissing the snake goodbye..... :-( hi and advance ordering the LP matt cameron article? SG on B&B Listening Party Hater album cover ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: "Pretty Noose" video From: seth Mr. Frank Kozik says that the new video will world premiere on MTV (in an edited form) on Monday. seth ------------------------------ From: cstone@Phoenix.kent.edu (HasNoName) Subject: Lolla 2nd stage announced Hello, all, I just found the listing for the artists that'll be on the second stage for Lol. this time around...my comments follow... > + Second Stage > o First Half of the Tour (Start-July 16 (?)) > # Girls Against Boys > # Ben Folds Five > # Cornershop > # Satchel > # You Am I > # Beth Hart > o Second Half of Tour (July 17(?)-end) > # Soul Coughing > # Sponge > # The Melvins > # Ruby > # Jonny Polonsky > # Low & Sweet Orch > + Indie Stage > o First Half of Tour > # Chune > # Moonshake > # Lutefisk > # Capsize 7 > o Second Half of Tour > # COWS > # Long Fin Killie > # Thirty Ought Six My comments 1: No Tad? Damn! 2: I recall seeing somewhere where one of the Melvins said they'd never do Lolla. unless they got Slayer to do it. Well, not quite...alas, they're on the half of the tour I probably won't be seeing. 3: I'm guessing the "Indie" stage is this year's term for the 3rd stage. Don't know if any local bands/ other stuff will be involved like last year. 4: The "Indie Stage" seems to be a bit of a misnomber, Long Fin Killie is on American Records as far as I know (or at least they're distributed in the US by American.) Also, Girls Vs. Boys was still on Touch and Go, last I heard. Oh well. Carl - -Carl M Stone--NOT INSANE! IN '96--KSU parks it and locks it, NOT RESPONSIBLE- "We're the leaders of tomorrow, Mudhead!" "But Peorgie, it's today!" -- Firesign Theatre http://nimitz.mcs.kent.edu/~cstone/ for Lolla.inf,FiresgnThtre,tapetrading,etc ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: Mailman meaning If the beer hasn't totally eroded my mind, I think we covered Mailman last fall, and at that time the consensus was that it was literally about a postal worker in the NW who flipped and went on a killing spree at work. Does someone else remember the details? Greg On Thu, 2 May 1996, Geoff wrote: > I don't think mailman is about a "psycho-killer on a rampage" either. > The song mentions nothing to suggest that. In fact, the narrator sends a > "message of love". To me it's just from the point of view of someone who > has been walked on by somebody, possibly unintentionally, and finally does > something to make the person(s) notice him/her. > Geoff > ------------------------------ Subject: SG INTERVIEW IN SPAIN From: "SANCHEZ MORTE, FCO. JOSE" "Vasant Ramamurthy" WROTE: >Oh! Wow! I can actually understand a lot in this letter. Not bad, considering >I'm only in Spanish III in high school. This is soooo coool. BTW, what is the >opinion of Chris Cornell on Smashing Pumpkins, or in other words, Que es el >opino de Chris Cornell sobre Smashing Pumpkins? Smashing Pumpkins es muy >fantastico, verdad? Chris Cornell piensa que el nuevo disco de Smashing Pumpkins es verdaderamente fantastico. El dice que no puede recordar todas las canciones del disco que le gustan (tiene problemas para acordarse de todas las canciones del nuevo disco de SG). Piensa que es impresionante editar un disco con tantas canciones a estas alturas de su carrera. yo estoy muy triste porque Smashing Pumpkins actuan manana por la noche en Madrid (Espana) (y esta noche Rage Against The Machine) y no puedo ir. Enrique Olavarria lo siento pero no puedo transcribir toda la entrevista con Chris Cornell dura mas de 45 minutos y no tengo tiempo para poder transcribirla. Chris hablo del nuevo disco, de porque han tardado tano en editarlo desde el anterior, ellos lo han producido, tambien hablo de sus influencias, en otono vendran a Espana, en la entrevista habia preguntas hechas por fans de SG, y opino sobre los disco de Smahing Pumpkins y Oasis. Ademas eligio 5 canciones del nuevo disco para que las escuchasemos durante la entrevista (NO ATTENTION, APPLEBITE, PRETTY NOOSE, BURDEN IN MY HAND Y DUSTY) Fue fantastico. Un Saludo Francisco J. Sanchez Morte psanchez@MSF.UNIZAR.ES ------------------------------ From: wxs129@psu.edu (Kesa) Subject: Goodbye Goodbye everyone. I'm leaving in 15 minutes and must therefore unsubscribe until I can find e-mail access over the summer somewhere. I want to thank you all for providing me with a lot to think about and giving me a healthy distraction from homework and final exams. No damage done, let's hope. Anyway, thanks all. Shroom, stay cool and congrats about SOMMS. Nothingman, get yourself an Iced Tea. This one's on me. Foreshocks/Overfloater/Nevernamed, decide on a name. ;) Just kidding. And Seth, thanks again. Kesa "The day I tried to win, I dangled from the power lines And let the martyrs stretch..." -The Day I Tried To Live, Soundgarden "This is how I'll go out tonight..." -T.B.D., Live "This is, this is...this is, this is...this is, this is...my...last exit--" -Last Exit, Pearl Jam ,,,, (-_-) /_o_\ ------------------------------ From: sfox@mailer.fsu.edu (Stephen Fox) Subject: HIV Baby 7" Way back when, I had a subscription to the Sub Pop singles club, and was lucky enough to get the 7". The only problem was it was on black vinyl, and I knew there was a purple pressing as well. Through many miles of traveling, while on vacation, I finally found it for $40 at Venus Records in NYC the day before a show at Jones Beach on Long Island featuring Neil Young with Booker T & the MGs, Soundgarden, and Blind Melon (the show where "Kickstand" was recorded for that live B-side.) With help from some friends that work at A&M, I got to go backstage and get my newly purchased 7" autographed by the band. Ben asked if it was the purple vinyl version, and hinted if it wasn't, he might not sign it. Lucky for me I found one. They all drew on it, with Chris vandalizing his picture on the cover to look like Gene Simmons. It is probably my most prized possesion. Great Big Noise, Stephen R. Fox sfox@mailer.fsu.edu ------------------------------ From: Vassilis Theoharis Subject: Re: louder than love > First of all I put it on as loud as I am allowed (i can't play it too > loud because i'm in uni accomodation and its exam time) and put it on > repeat and just listened to it two or three times. > As loud as you 're allowed, is not loud enough Nick! Please turn it up! Apart from making love, soundgarden albums are appropriate for preparing yourself for exams. I use this method of annoying my flatmates and studying too; ------------------------------ From: Cecilia Filiplic Subject: music db and other queries Greetings!=20 Just to let you know that I got a tip to check out the WWW Music = Database, which allows you to rate albums by various artists. Of = course, I had to check out the Soundgarden page. Here is a list of the = albums, their ratings (1-10), and how many people voted: = (rating/number of votes)=09 .Screaming Life EP (1987) no votes .Flower (single) (1988) no votes .Fopp EP (1988) no votes .Ultramega OK (1989) 8.0/2=20 .Screaming Life/Fopp (1990) 9.5/2 .Louder than love (1990) 9.0/6 .Badmotorfinger (1991) 8.1/8 .S.O.M.M.S. (1991) no votes=09 .Superunknown (1994) 7.4/26 .Alive in the superunknown (CD+) (1995) no votes .Cum on then if you think you're hard (1996) no votes Anyone interested in voting or checking out the database, the address = is: http://www.cs.uit.no/Music/ PS: thanks to those who answered my question about the club in = Amsterdam! PPS: another query: my fiance went to Seattle and saw a sculpture = titled "Black Sun". Any relation to the tune? Cecilia ------------------------------ From: stella rogers Subject: Re: Goodbye At 09:51 AM 5/3/96 -0400, you wrote: > Goodbye everyone. I'm leaving in 15 minutes and must therefore >unsubscribe until I can find e-mail access over the summer somewhere. I >want to thank you all for providing me with a lot to think about and giving >me a healthy distraction from homework and final exams. No damage done, >let's hope. Anyway, thanks all. > Shroom, stay cool and congrats about SOMMS. > Nothingman, get yourself an Iced Tea. This one's on me. > Foreshocks/Overfloater/Nevernamed, decide on a name. ;) Just= kidding. > And Seth, thanks again. > > Kesa > >"The day I tried to win, I dangled from the power lines > And let the martyrs stretch..." > -The Day I Tried To Live, Soundgarden > >"This is how I'll go out tonight..." > -T.B.D., Live > >"This is, this is...this is, this is...this is, this is...my...last exit--" > -Last Exit, Pearl Jam > ,,,, > (-_-) > /_o_\ > > If you want some free email services, go to http://www.juno.com It's only email, no internet access, but atleast you get to stay on the= list. =97=97=97=97 srogers@fix.net http://www.geocities.com/tokyo/3923/ now also at: http://members.tripod.com/~stellar/index.html ------------------------------ From: Antvena@aol.com Subject: Re: SG INTERVIEW IN SPAIN Can anyone translate? ------------------------------ From: toybox Subject: Assorted varieties of stuff. > SH> And about the least favorite SG song... I'd have to go along with > SH>whoever named "Circle Of Power". I've never particularly enjoyed Hiro's > SH>voice. > I dunno. I don't like the song too much, and the voice is annoying as > hell, but when he says, "The big bad ass something something's coming > to getcha!" it always make me laugh. Must be the crack. Am i the only list member who likes Circle of Power????????? > BC>Well, I though someone might as well talk about Kim, even if it is taking th > BC>piss, as it's usually Chris this and Chris that, and in my opinion Kim is co > BC>as fuck, I love his interviews - the guy is too inteligent for his own good! Yeah, i'd like to ask Kim his opinions on existentialism and the intricacies of the Kantian theory of morality. > 1. PN single - I finally heard it for the first time yesterday (I > don't listen to the radio much). It's great. I'm going to Spec's to > check the import section for it later today, and I'm *hoping* I can snag > some kind of promotional copy at the A&M SG party tonight... I have only heard CLIPS of PN twice, and it's already in my head. Just TWICE, that's all it took. Still sounds a little poppish to me in a couple places though... > This interview was made three weeks ago by the dj himself, during CC > stay here in Europe, before the album comes out. I have this interview > on tape, but it is translated to Spanish; I can write it to you if you > want, but I'll have to translate it to English. Dude, could you send me the spanish version? Me gusta espanol.... > - -BURDEN IN MY HAND: Am i the only person sick enough to think this title seems a bit perverted? shroom, would you agree or no??? > This is un-fucking-believable people!! I FINALLY got SOMMS!! Congratulations, Shroom. Now you are an sg elite too... > It seems somewhere along the line I miscounted, but we now have 44 copies > of somms accounted for on the list, plus 10 owned by friends of people on > the list. So we have 999 946 more to account for. So go out and hit > those garage sales! Don't you mean 99 946? Ok, also, how come a fewe months ago, when i was asking people what their interpretations of lyrics were, nobody participated? Now that someone else starts the thread it becomes a bandwagon. I think it's a conspiracy against me or something. I still enjoy the interpretations though, so keep 'em coming. -j ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Drugs, and an earthquake? Ummm... everyone is throwing out SG drug quotes, so I thought I'd do one... This came from Melody Maker, June 10, 1989. It's on Seth's page... - ------------------------- Question: Who did you model your singing on for "Beyond the Wheel" and the astonishingly over-the-top "All Your Lies"? Chris: "My mom screaming at me to take out the garbage or hide the pot plants when the police came round. She just generally screamed at me like that." - ------------------------- >Yeah, i'd like to ask Kim his opinions on existentialism and the >intricacies of the Kantian theory of morality. Now THAT'S interesting. I'd love to get a few cases of beer and sit the man down to discuss the theories of Kierkegaard and Marx. Then I'd ask if I could touch his beard. >> - -BURDEN IN MY HAND: >Am i the only person sick enough to think this title seems a bit >perverted? shroom, would you agree or no??? Perverted? Mmmmm... yes, I totally agree. In fact, I think I could go a step farther and say that it's Chris sending out more subliminal messages in his music. ;) I'll have to wait and see the lyrics before I elaborate, though. >> This is un-fucking-believable people!! I FINALLY got SOMMS!! >Congratulations, Shroom. Now you are an sg elite too... Thanks!! I am a SG elite? Interesting. Anyway... thanks to everyone who wrote and congratulated me!! I'm SO proud! HEY!! What's this I heard about an earthquake in Seattle yesterday? I hope no one was hurt. I think it was a 5 or something? Anyone have any details? It wasn't in the papers today... And lastly... Kesa's GONE? Deb's LEAVING?? How many of you people aren't going to have e-mail over the summer? This is not good. Which of y'all are planning on giving us a JUST a 15 minute warning before they split? Dammit. I don't like this at all. Shroom PS... I finally bought the new STP album "Tiny Music, songs from the Rehab Gift Shop (or something like that)" It's kinda cool... but not as good as their first album. ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell | |.| |.| |\./| "She drinkin' my JackDaniels |\./| and smokin' all my weed" .\ |\./| /. ~~Andy Wood, MLB \-.\ |\\.//| /.-/ \--./\ |\\.//| /\.--/ \--.| \ |\\.//| / |.--/ \---.|\ |\./| /|.---/ \--.|\ |\./| /|.--/ \ .\ |.| /. / _ -_- \ \\ // / -_- _ - -/_/_/- | | -\_\_\- - /_\ ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: Drugs, and an earthquake? I hear there was no major damage due to the Seattle quake. Mother nature is probably a huge SG supporter and was just reminding the world that the new album is coming! In regard to the SG drug-use speculation, I think we're clear that SG DO NOT partake in ANY of the hard stuff. Matt and Ben, however, do enjoy the rich weed of the Pacific Northwest. (Kim infrequently and Chris virtually never.) I'm going to type an interview Matt did with 'High Times' magazine a few years back in which he mentions that he's performed stoned many times (for example, during the opening stint for GNR). -Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com at nylanr01 This came from Melody Maker, June 10, 1989. It's on Seth's page... Question: Who did you model your singing on for "Beyond the Wheel" and the astonishingly over-the-top "All Your Lies"? Chris: "My mom screaming at me to take out the garbage or hide the pot plants when the police came round. She just generally screamed at me like that." ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: Mailman meaning Actually, hasn't Chris explicitly said that it is NOT about a Postal Worker? I could be wrong. Like I said, there is nothing explicit in the song which suggests it is about a killing spree. Geoff On Fri, 3 May 1996, Greg Bensimon wrote: > > If the beer hasn't totally eroded my mind, I think we covered Mailman > last fall, and at that time the consensus was that it was literally > about a postal worker in the NW who flipped and went on a killing spree > at work. Does someone else remember the details? > > > Greg > > > > On Thu, 2 May 1996, Geoff wrote: > > > I don't think mailman is about a "psycho-killer on a rampage" either. > > The song mentions nothing to suggest that. In fact, the narrator sends a > > "message of love". To me it's just from the point of view of someone who > > has been walked on by somebody, possibly unintentionally, and finally does > > something to make the person(s) notice him/her. > > Geoff > > > ------------------------------ From: SoundGrdn3@aol.com Subject: earthquake Yeah, it (the earthquake) was like a 5.4. Freaked me out, 'cos about 12 hours before that (in Science class) our teacher made us watch this video called "Forces of Destruction:Earthquakes". We're like supposed to have this 8.3 earthquake sometime in the next 25 years. It wasn't that bad though but the Mariners game got postponed, and on KNDD (the alternative station) this guy from Everett who worked in a restaurant called in and said that 2 refrigerators fell over like dominoes. Weird. Hope that Soundgarden are okay!!! ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: i'm overfloating now...& its back and down and under... At 05:12 PM 1/05/96 Little Joe wrote: >This is a co-operative review of the new album between blind dog and myself. >.....Self-production was certainly not a problem for the boys, they do a great >job. After the >few listens I've had it certainly stacks up to Superunk. Kim seems to >have added still more strings to his guitar-bow, Chris is even more of a >lyrical God his voice is simply amazing , Ben has produced some gems of >songs and Matt is either >hiding 5 extra arms in his jacket or has done a deal with the devil to be >able to drum like he does . > >10 out of 5. And at 05:12 PM 1/05/96 Blind Dog wrote: >................overall, I think down on the upside is as strong as shit. the >production is great (equal with superunk). there are a lot of hater and >temple of the dog elements across the whole album, which is cool by me. >and while the production is less slick, some people may be mislead into >thinking that it's a return to songs from around the ultramega era. well, >its not true. the anger from bmf and superunk is not here. even ty cobb, >with the chorus of "I'm hardheaded, fuck you all" does not even approach >the anger and intenseness of songs like limo wreck, slaves and bulldozers >or tdittl. there seems to be more of a melodic approach to dotu, but maybe >the songs they recorded were the best ones, and not just the more melodic >ones. I eagerly await comments once everyone has heard it :) Wow. Congratulations to my fellow Australians on such a comprehensive and interesting review of the new album. I'm extremely impressed! Both with Soundgarden (looking forward to receiving that copy, Little Joe) and with the literary skills of Bling Dog & Little Joe. Seth, how about you assign them to be roving reporters at every Soundgarden concert so they can write reviews for your web page? I for one would enjoy reading them......... And it was good to read Alejandro's opinion on the few songs he's (or she's??) heard so far. If anyone else has any reviews, I think it would be worth writing them for the list. See ya Carolyn the Misconstrued Firecracker ********************************************************** I can taste you on my lips & smell you in my clothes......Butt Hole Surfers Eat the fruit and kiss the snake goodnight.....Soundgarden ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: kissing the snake goodbye..... :-( Alas the time has come for me to farewell you all. I am about to write to our man Seth to unsubscribe from this list. But before I do, I want to bid you all adieu, for a while. I'm about to embark on a new journey in my life, so fitting that my journey should coincide with Soundgarden's new album life. I'm moving to another district, another house, another job, leaving my friends and family and the place where I grew up. I've made many wonderful friends on this list. Thank you to all of you!! Jamesetta, Jackhammer, Glenn, Matthew S - I'm ESPECIALLY going to miss you guys!! I'm hoping to have a PC set up with email from home in the not too distant future, when I'll be resubscribing, and contacting some of you. If anyone needs to contact me, my current email address will remain only until Friday 10 May (Australian time - that's Thursday 9 May US time). After then, Jackhammer on this list could be contacted on my behalf. He'll be keeping me posted on the Somms List happenings while I'm unsubscribed. Until then, stay cool, keep smiling, and above all...........ENJOY THE MUSIC!! Bye, Carolyn the Mean Fiddler (thanks Matt L) ****************************************************** Coloured lights appear on either side of where I stand; Time has come for ears to numb & eyeballs to expand......Sidewinder ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: hi and advance ordering the LP hey all... just noticed today, for those of you living inthe middle of nowhere, that you can order the new cd NOW from 1-800-MUSIC-NOW and they'll guarantee fed ex delivery day of release. not a bad deal if you don't have other options. i'm going to get the vinyl monday night at midnight -- tower here is also doing a posies record release party the same night. should be interesting. ;-) ------------------------------ From: SoundGrdn3@aol.com Subject: matt cameron article? Did someone say that they have an article that they will type up about Matt and marijuana? If so, could they (sorry I don't know who it was, but I deleted my mail) E-mail me the typed version? I don't have enough online time to go onto the website and download it, but if someone could send me the file I'd really appreciate it. That's like the one Matt article that I haven't read. Thanks! ------------------------------ Subject: SG on B&B From: Ben Timberlake My roommate sent this to me. I don't know if what he describes is new or old, but it's kinda funny. >Watching "Beavis & Butt-head" tonight, the following dialogue occurs >(roughly): >[While watching a video] >Butt-head: Hey, Beavis, aren't those the Black Hole Sun mountains just >outside Seattle. >Beavis: Yeah, yeah, they are. What are they there for? >Butt-head: All the Seattle bands live there. >Beavis: Oooh. >Butt-head: Wouldn't it be cool if we could tour the Black Hole Sun >mountains and the bands would just pop out of nowhere. >Beavis: That would be *cool*! >Butt-head [imitating bus tour host's voice]: On your right, if you be very >quiet, you'll see Soundgarden. And on your left, only if you're very >quiet, is Alice in Chains ... I wonder what video they were watching. Anyone? -- Ben Ben Timberlake "The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est, Northwestern University Pro patria mori." Medill School of Journalism -- Wilfred Owen btimlake@nwu.edu -30- *Check out my dorm's web page!* http://www.stuaff.nwu.edu/crc/ Nothing looks more guilty than an unaccused man proclaiming his innocence. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Subject: Listening Party From: Ben Timberlake Well, I met my first fellow-lister in real life last night. Toni (Tonerkins) is even cooler in person. Down on the Upside sounds really good. They played it very LOUD. It is probably the loudest I will ever hear it. It takes a few listens for me to get into an album, so I'm not absolutely frothing at the mouth. But, I'm not worried because I know that after about a week this album will take its place as one my favorite CDs. I'm encouraged by the fact that the songs I liked the most were the ones I was somewhat familiar with: Pretty Noose, Burden in my hand, Blow up the outside world, rhinosaur, and never named. There were free drinks and free food, too. Incidentally, they were showing True Romance on the monitors (no sound) which is not only a good movie (on my employee picks at BB Video) but also features "Outshined" on its soundtrack. I was wondering if they did it on purpose. Really cool stuff: there were these promo posters all over the place, sort of elongated versions of the album cover like you would find in a music store. So I took one. Toni took, like, forty. ;) They gave out the liner notes which include the cover (the image on the web page that seth spotted at the music store) I think it's a cool cover, but still can't match BMF. I also tried to wheedle some info out of Mark Callaghan, the A&M midwest marketing director. He wasn't too informed, but he told me the 2nd single would be burden in my hand (did we know this already?). He had no knowledge of a headline tour, but said it wouldn't surprise him if there was one. The single for pretty noose should be out next week. He said he thought there were b-sides. As to any possibility of a 'special' re-release edition a la SOMMS or follow up EP, a la AITS, he said if there were one, it would definitely not be until next year. He also said he would get promo copies next week and would send me one (he gave me his card). I thought that was extra cool. Most of the people at the party were local radio and retail workers. They seemed to enjoy the music, but weren't that into it. It's really too bad they don't open the listening parties up to people who really want to hear the music. -- Ben Ben Timberlake "The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est, Northwestern University Pro patria mori." Medill School of Journalism -- Wilfred Owen btimlake@nwu.edu -30- *Check out my dorm's web page!* http://www.stuaff.nwu.edu/crc/ Nothing looks more guilty than an unaccused man proclaiming his innocence. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Subject: Hater album cover From: Ben Timberlake Does anyone know who the guy is on the cover of the HATER album? I think it looks like Ben. -- Ben Ben Timberlake "The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est, Northwestern University Pro patria mori." Medill School of Journalism -- Wilfred Owen btimlake@nwu.edu -30- *Check out my dorm's web page!* http://www.stuaff.nwu.edu/crc/ Nothing looks more guilty than an unaccused man proclaiming his innocence. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 114] ****************************************