From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Apr 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 23 Apr 1996 00:57:28 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 23 Apr 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: TOTDog on my leg... SG Marching Band help another one.... Pretty Noose single Sound garden Re: okey.. Re: Spoonman/herion, PN single, etc Re: another one.... Hi Chums!!!! New SG CD-Book Shirts Poor poor SOMMS buyers!!! cc's pipes... Re: SG Marching Band sunday driver SNL Contest Knights of the Soundtable Hi Chums!!!! Inflatable New CD? Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 22 Apr 1996 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 22 Apr 1996 Re: Beautiful Ripping Music (fwd) Sellout? no shit... BMF/SOMMS Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 22 Apr 1996 Post virgin... the sg phone line! Listening to a New Album Re: Post virgin... Re: Soundgarden what else?!? Re: a surefire toe-tapper... Re: CC poll Superunknown=finals week? Re: a surefire toe-tapper... Re: the sg phone line! Re: the sg phone line! the sg phone line! #number I'm the dirt beneath your feet... NEVER NAMED!!! Re: I'm the dirt beneath your feet... Re: #number Re: Post virgin... Yet another "I've heard Pretty Noose!" message Re: the sg phone line! Re: No Subject Re: the sg phone line! Lyrics... Cornell lyrics ------------------------------------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: TOTDog on my leg... ME>Umm...thankfully no. My brother and my dad both like SoundGarden and my ME>mom just listens to oldies stations. My dad also likes TOTD. He seems ME>to like songs written by Chris more than songs written by any other ME>band member. Speaking of Temple of the Dog, I just recently aquired the TOTD demos. I think Black Cat just kicks ass. It's so fuckin' soulful...or something. Anyone have the lyrics for them (they're not on the page, are they?). Nothingman -Black cat's gone. Mine's fucking my leg...no, wait, that's a dog. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: ER>DOES ANYONE OUT THERE IN LIST LAND HEAR THE HATE IN SG SONGS?? WHEN I LISTEN ER>I HEAR ALL THIS HATE.I LOVE IT. SONG LIKE FOURTH OF JULY,UNCOVERD,UGLY ER>TRUTH,GUN,AND STUFF LIKE MAILMAN.WE HATE LOVE WE LOVE TO HATE. I think it's more of a disgust, or frustration rather than hate. And Let Me Drown is a great song when I'm down. Nothingman -But right now I'm up, so Big Dumb Sex 'till the 4th of July! ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: SG Marching Band LO>...Holy shit! Jerry Cantrell and Chris playing tubas! That rules! Only LO>because I am probably the lone tuba player on this list... I would rather see Chris playing trumpet (because his voice compairs to that of a trumpet...listen to the vocal braek in Reach Down...Chris (the highest, wailing Chris) reminds me of the trumpet soloist standing, and wailing over the others), Kim playing the french horn, because with those little round glasses of his, he'd look pretty important, Ben playing the piano, because he just looks like he should be playing the piano, and Matt playing the xylophone, just because it would make him look like he was in a high school band. Or Kim could play the tuba...the tuba player in my band was a hairy guy with a beer gut. Nothingman -Wow, look...green thingies flying past me...AAAHHHH! ------------------------------ From: Gary Shoemaker Subject: help I hope one of you can help me. I recently purchased the "CD Plus" cd = "ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN" and my cd player won't recognize it. If = anybody has gotten it to work please e-mail me with the cd-rom your = using. I've been dying to check this cd out. Thanks, -spoonman@teclink.net ------------------------------ From: Jai sukhatme Subject: another one.... hi! i'm new to this list... just joined a few days back... i wanted to know if (any of you knows if) "the" new ablum will be available in India????... i only have BMF ,superunknown and the temple of the dog stuff... needless to say these were enough to make me join this list!.... in ans. to one of the ques. posed.... > > 2. which band is jason everman playing with now? i remember having read in one of the guitar world things that he is with "mindfunk".... don't know if this news is too old... jai You can't teach people to be lazy - either they have it or they dont ---- Dagwood Bumstead. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: Pretty Noose single From: Ben Timberlake I asked both Blockbuster Music and Musicland about a single release. They said nothing was listed under Soundgarden (they checked both a computer and a big book). The guy at Musicland said they usually hear about singles a couple weeks before they come out and that it won't necessarilly come out before the album. I told my friend who works at BB Music (I work at video) to tell me the _minute_ he hears something about the single. When did the Spoonman single come out relative to Superunknown? Also: My best friend Ryan (who goes to school in Kansas) called and left a message on my answering machine and said, "BEN, LISTEN, IT'S NEW SOUNDGARDEN!" then he holds the phone to the stereo and I get the middle of "Pretty Noose." Luckily I had heard it earlier in the day, or I would've been going nuts! I play my dub from from the radio to everyone. My friend Jonna: "It's better than 'Spoonman.'" (She's pretty cynical) My musical-type friend, Jake: "It sounds like 80s metal with 90s effects." (he just doesn't understand Soundgarden) Finally, I'm hoping to get a promo copy of DOTU since I'm reviewing it for the campus paper's art section. (think I'll be biased? Naaah.) Keeping my fingers crossed. -- Ben Ben Timberlake "The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est, Northwestern University Pro patria mori." Medill School of Journalism -- Wilfred Owen btimlake@nwu.edu -30- *Check out my dorm's web page!* http://www.stuaff.nwu.edu/crc/ "And I don't like what you've got me hangin' from." -- Chris Cornell, "Pretty Noose" ------------------------------ From: juecker@blueearth.k12.cfa.org Subject: Sound garden I was told by Witewatr24@aol.com that I should write to you about my question about Soundgarden, or is it Sound Garden. Iam a fan of Soundgarden, or is it Sound Garden. Well, anyway, I was wondering if anyone that was on this mailing list could give me some information about new albums and tours that Soundgarden would be comeing out with soon. One last thing, if anyone out has the words to Black Hole Sun, I would really like to get a hold of them if I can. See you on the flip side! J ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Re: okey.. > >> That, and.. is >> it like definite that there will be a Pretty Noose single released (for >> our buying pleasure =) on Wednesday? and will it be an import or a US >> single? if you can tell me, thanks > >I've been wondering this myself. Has anyone asked any record stores if >there is actually a single being released? All I've heard is that >"Pretty Noose" will begin *airplay* on Wednesday (not that it hasn't >already). Yup, I am positive that down here at the record store (skinny's once again) that on the board it has. Pretty Noose listed as 29th of May release date. It also has DOTU release date on the 20th/21st can't remember but Noose is out on the 29th down here for sure :) Next time I am down there I'll see if they have any advance copies so we can get b-sides or something. That or wait a week :) seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "Spell on You" Single by DEF FX ------------------------------ From: Fleur Weinstock Subject: Re: Spoonman/herion, PN single, etc Hmmm.... That's interesting.... I disagree that Spoonman was in any way intentionally about heroin use, although I see how it could be read into. According to clean sources I've read, Chris C. was pretty into hard-core drugs in earlier times, to demystify that aspect. I agree that Spoonman is a religious song. To me it speaks about the rhythm which represents the most inward, beautiful, and true religion. A rhythm or vibration is in all things, whether you can see/hear/etc or not (this is just elementary physics). Is not God in all things? Rhythm is one of the greatest things: sex, exercise, seasons, sunrise, waves, music, et cetera. Listen on!!!! Fleur de Vie ------------------------------ From: Fleur Weinstock Subject: Re: another one.... Jai sukhatme wrote: > hi! > > i wanted to know > if (any of you knows if) "the" new ablum will be available in India????... > I don't know (do you fellows?) but if not, maybe one of us could send you/him the album (reimbursed, of course)? I'm sure it's worth it. - --Fleur ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Hi Chums!!!! oh, it feels so great to be writing you all again. for the past month, I've been modem-less after I lost mine to an electrical storm. and I finally got the needed 200 bucks to get a new one. so I'm WAY behind in the news, I have no idea what's going on with the t-shirts- I STILL WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!! um, do we know the name of the new album yet? ok, I've got a play to memorize before i get up on stage tomorrow night , so I'm leaving for now. Oh, has this list ever tried a lyric of the week thing? where one member posts a lyric every monday and the list has a week to guess the song it's from, and then the member posts the winners each week?? It's kinda cool, I've played it on other lists. I would volunteer, but I don't have every song they've ever done to pull from. anyway, I really need to go. HI SHROOM!!!! bye guys! MOP ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: New SG CD-Book They've finally made one of those cheesy CD-Books about SG ($8). The book is the height/width of a CD and is meant to fit in the rack with your music collection. The content is regurgitated quotes and gushing editorial. If you've got children/students, etc. you'd like to introduce SG to, this is the book to do it with. The language is simple and the pictures are great. The cover of the SG CD-Book is a color print of 'The Day I Tried To Live' poster. (SG also has a few pages/pics in the Nirvana book.) Ask your record/book store if they can order it before writing to the P.O. Box. MBS P.O. Box 661026 Miami Springs, FL 33266-9925 Vikki :) ------------------------------ Subject: Shirts From: "Matt Cameron" OK.. I had to take myself off the list a while back, but I'm now back at university with perfectly adequate net services.. So what happened to the shirts? Should I be sending money? Did I miss anything particularly interesting over the past few weeks? If anyone can spare some time to fill me in I would be grateful :) :) Matt ------------------------------ From: Brad Subject: Poor poor SOMMS buyers!!! Hello all fellow SG fans, I am reading these stories of people getting SOMMS finally for $20 and $25 and up (with BMF), but I have to say I was at a used CD store, and I looked up Soundgarden on the little search database they have, and it said Soundgarden - Into the Void $3.95 I am a big SG fan, and I had heard Stray Cat Blues before, but I never knew about SOMMS. The listing was for another store, not the store I was at, so I went to the other store on a different day, and I looked in the database; there it was, still available at the store I was at. I looked through the S's, didn't see it, I asked the employee there, she found it not in the case it came in, in a jewel case with no cover. So I listened to it right there and I loved it, and bought it for $3.95. I'm glad some people are finally getting a hold of it and if you want a copy, send a blank tape to: Brad Venuti 328140 Ga. Tech Station Atlanta, GA 30332 I'll copy it, no charge! ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: cc's pipes... hey all...random thoughts for ya... one of the radio stations around here (the edge in omaha, ne) just started playing "pretty noose" this weekend. goddamn, it's good to hear new stuff from the boys. pn is a seriously great song...very choppy and stop-and-go. there's like five or six completely different melody lines going on in the song, all of them good. everyone appears to be in top form, here. matt's percussion is mesmerizing, ben keeps the groove going, kim takes a trip away from his usual choppy style and wails with some cleaner, longer tones ala "4th of July" and "Like Suicide." and chris... is it just me or does his voice sound better than ever? i was seriously wondering how his vocals were going to be on this album based on the throat problems he was having a year ago. i was expecting more mid-range work, perhaps a few effects to keep him from straining...but christ! on "pretty noose," (which is sung mostly in the upper register) he's pushing his pipes to the absolute limit the entire time. i think it'll be interesting to hear how his tone holds up throughout DOTU, because (as we all know) he rarely uses the same vocal style for any particular length of time...he likes to mix it up. hell, he can't even make it through one song without switching gears and doing something different. (i.e. "slaves & bulldozers," "searching wmgec," "4th of July," "black days..." if he sounds as good in the mid-range and lower registers as he does pushing the envelope on pretty noose, look out... how 'bout those sound clips from streamworks? i don't remember which clip was which song 'cuz i lost the track list that seth printed up way back when. anywayz...is the second clip "burden in my hand?" wow...if that little sampling is any indication, i think i may have a new addition to my "mostest favoritest sg tuneage." i'm running the clips at 14.4 so it's not crystal clear by any means, but enough to get the point. i was mr. download boy this weekend...i got updated copies of quicktime, real audio, streamworks and shockwave and I'VE NOT YET BEGUN TO LOAD!!! :) my acer is screaming for mercy...but not as loudly as my arsenal of geetars, which have all been subjected to ruthless beatings while i try to figure out the music for the clips on streamworks...i'm workin' on it...i'll keep you posted when i hear more of the songs, but track #2--whatever it is--is pretty easy if you use light strings with the right action...it seems like the song can be played in standard tuning (SHOCK!!!) and if so, it sounds like there's a bend on an open `a' after "would you lie for me..." yeeowch. my aching fingers. anyway, i'm drifting off into pompous musician land, so i'll give it a rest... well, better split... later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SG Marching Band From: "Matt Cameron" > > LO>...Holy shit! Jerry Cantrell and Chris playing tubas! That rules! Only > LO>because I am probably the lone tuba player on this list... > > I would rather see Chris playing trumpet (because his voice compairs to > that of a trumpet...listen to the vocal braek in Reach Down...Chris > (the highest, wailing Chris) reminds me of the trumpet soloist > standing, and wailing over the others), Kim playing the french horn, > because with those little round glasses of his, he'd look pretty > important, Ben playing the piano, because he just looks like he should > be playing the piano, and Matt playing the xylophone, just because it > would make him look like he was in a high school band. Or Kim could > play the tuba...the tuba player in my band was a hairy guy with a beer > gut. > What the hell is all this about???? What have you people been up to while I was away? ------------------------------ From: k8 Subject: sunday driver so, i'm driving back to humboldt from a weekend in santa cruz (celebrating 4-20), and I'm listening to the rock blocks on Live 105. Now, can someone please explain to me why this happens! I'm screaming along at 70 mph+ and I hear them announce that Soundgarden will be on next. And then they go to commercial. Knowing the drive, i know that i will lose radio integrity right about that hill OVER THERE (somewhere around San Rafael). And the commercials on. So, I'm slowing down, because I want to hear the damn song. Dammit. Dammit! And, after the tedious commercial, and the radio header comes on, I hear: Black Hole Sun. gag. so, i drive slower still, hoping to buy time until Pretty Noose. Luckily, it comes on next and I hear it (for the second time, the first being in a liquor store late the night before). But, it's getting sketchy reception, because i'm going over the pass... and it's... gone. so, hey, i probably pissed off the people behind me (going 53 in a 65 zone), but it sounded great. (don't worry, i drove 75 the rest of the way home, so my time wasn't thrown off) yay. soundgarden. k8 ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: SNL Contest 92.3 K-Rock (WXRK) in NY 212-750-0550 is holding a contest to see SG perform the dress rehearsal for SNL. To be eligible you have to be a call-in winner of the SG catalogue the station is giving away. So who among my tri-state cohorts is going to camp outside NBC studios with me? -Vikki ------------------------------------------------------------ BTW: For our discography keeper (HI STEVE!), at Tower Records (where I discovered the SG CD-book), I found an SG box set called 'Supermotorfinger' ($40). Yep, you guessed it -- it's 'Badmotorfinger' & 'Superunknown" sold as a set. ------------------------------ From: Mark Miller Subject: Knights of the Soundtable I think the best thing about the fan club was the touching holiday card they sent on behalf of Soundgarden. The old Seasons Greetings from Soundgarden card with a really cool picture of Seattle on it. Anyone else think thiat was a cool card? MArk ------------------------------ From: overfloater@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Hi Chums!!!! lyric of the week eh? that sounds cool =) I'll follow along.. and if I'm not supposed to be doing this, I'm extremely sorry. Of course, this will be really easy for anyone on this list =) so here goes, just out of boredom and the Overfloater is a moron factor: "Not a tear will be shed" I wanna add the next line, but that's a bit too easy. But then again, so is the whole concept.. =) Oh wells. the mailing list member formerly known as foreshocks ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Inflatable New CD? Did any of our Seattle locals catch Inflatable Soule at Moe's this weekend or get their new 5-song EP? Show/CD review/comments -- please! -Vikki ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 22 Apr 1996 - ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: the ugly truth just loves to give it away... On Sun, 21 Apr 1996, Heather Aston wrote: > This may sound strange, but if I came across CC unconcious, I'd probably just > look through his wallet. You learn so much about a person from that. and you would just leave him there once you had pawed through his wallet? I said "just" because Shroom's question implied she would do other, more carnal things to him, which the Puritans on this list don't want to hear about. So I would "just" look through the wallet and maybe cut a lock of hair, not anything else. you can learn so much about a person from their posts to the somms list. You sure can. Such as this: People get really cranky when they try to boss others around, but instead of being cowed, someone calls them on it. But let's not go there... ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 22 Apr 1996 From: OponFam@aol.com Subject: Selfish about Soundgarden Maritza I know exactly what you mean. I did mention very similar feelings awhile back, but nobody responded. I worry too about Soundgarden becoming more and more popular and thus less and less accessible to their old fans. I agree wholeheartedly. After Superunknown came out, I began to feel almost protective of the band. At times, I find myself hoping that since Britrock is the "next big thing" people will pay less attention to the Seattle bands. It's not that I don't want them to be successful. But with success came these hordes of people who call themselves fans, but only listen to the music because it's the "in" thing to do, or they lust after Chris, and don't really care about the music at all.(This is not to knock Shroom. I know she lusts after Chris, but she cares about the music as well, which is more than I can say for a lot of people) As Kim said, "we don't make music for 14 year old girls to diddle themselves to while looking at our picture." Now, real fans have to compete with these posers for tickets, and because you have these silly, screaming girls trying to get backstage who have to be kept out, real fans don't get the opportunity either. I just wish we could keep Soundgarden for ourselves. From what I've read in interviews, Kim would be a great guy just to sit down and talk to. Back in the day, when they were playing at the Rainbow Tavern and such places, you probably could. But now, that's unlikely. ------------------------------ From: Fleur Weinstock Subject: Re: Beautiful Ripping Music (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 22 Apr 1996 09:54:42 -0400 From: Michael J. O'Driscoll To: silence@bga.com Subject: Re: Beautiful Ripping Music Fleur Weinstock wrote (in defense of her posting on Soundgarden): >Well, I like John Cage, but I also like Soundgarden, and perhaps John >Cage, with his decent enough belief in Silence, would have recognized >"John Cage" is not merely John Cage: no, John Cage, like all humans, is >the universe, and thus contains Soundgarden. Also, I think Soundgarden >is avante-garde in its own way. > >Sorry if it offended your John Cage sensibilities. Your posting shouldn't have offended anyone's sensibilities. Keep in mind Cage's own praise for "musicircus" sensibility of rock music: "...in rock, the traditions are drowned in sound. Everything becomes confused--it's wonderful! And the performers seem to be all in agreement...They are alive!" (_For the Birds_ 173). This seems particularly true of Soundgarden and recent trends in heavy/grunge rock in which the trajectories of each instrument are blurred... a rich, intriguing, and (seemingly) chaotic wall of sound that IS a very Cagean silence. Furthermore, this is music/art presented in a manner indistinct from life: a garden of sound fecund in a way only Cage could love. That a list devoted to Cage could be offended by the RANDOM incursions of its member's individual tastes is ironic. That some members of the list are to caught up in their own presuppositions about CATEGORIES and other ways of walling in artistic production and commentary is doubly so. Thanks for the tip Fleur. Regards, Mike O'Driscoll. ------------------------------ Subject: Sellout? From: Brydon Cheyney CS95 In response to Maritza, Kathie et al I'd have to say I'm thoroughly relieved to hear they share the same feelings as I do. I know it's selfish as fuck, but I just don't want SG to get to the stage of Nirvana or Pearl Jam. It's good to be different, to try to persuade others of the beauty of the music and have them not listen - if we're all the same it's so fucking BORING! I take pride on listening to SG since 'Louder Then Love' and the fact that however popular the band get they just won't sell out! Superunknown was pretty wierd and apart from 'Black Hole Sun' wasn't really that much more commercially viable than BMF. Like Kim Thayil said, Soundgarden isn't moving towards popular music - popular music is moving towards Soundgarden. But it would still fuck me off if Soundgarden started to play huge gigs, with countless support bands to an audience of screaming teeny boppers - the kind who moved from Bon Jovi to Nirvana to Offspring - that fucks me off more than anything else. To have seen SG on the LTL or BMF tour would be a dream come true - it was just that I live several hundred miles away and oversea (in the Shetland Isles - most northerly in Britain) from the nearest gig hall for big bands. It would cost me a fortune and I'm only 18 now - I could hardly be allowed to go myself at 13 or 14. I just can't see the band top that era - even the band themselves said they don't enjoy touring so much anymore. Having said that I can't wait for the new album, I haven't heard the single yet - - I never listen to radio, too much shit on British radio for my liking - and I'd kill to see them live for the first time. They better play some older stuff! I don't know what they still play live, but to hear 'Head Injury', 'Flower', 'Fopp', 'Full On Kev's Mom' and especially 'Loud Love' would do it for me big time. I can remember reading a live review where the reviewer complained that SG's choice of last encore, 'Hands All Over' I think, was too old and 'obscure' for the audience. Well FUCK HIM!!! If the band were to pander to the 'new' fans who own just 'Superunknown' then I'd walk out! 'Louder Than Love' is a fucking GREAT album and should be known to all SG fans. Thank fuck for SG's integrity. Long may it reign. Sheesh... Sorry, I get a bit carried away. Trouble is I LOVE Metallica and they've got the same problems only on a larger scale! Cheers BC - Living on your knees, conformity or dying on your feet for honesty Following our instinct not a trend go against the grain until the end... ------------------------------ From: Michael Wayne Cornell <00204185@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: no shit... Hey All- I don't know what this proves, but: >a number one video was coming out with a new album. They would be >kissing >they're asses. It's plainly obvious when you think about the fact >that we >have to beg djs to play it. We don't have to beg anyone to hear >the new >cranberries new song, and superunk was a more popular album. >Clown As i was reading this, both MTV and an Omaha station(101.9 the Edge) had that new cranberries song on. God i hope that's no reflection on my generation. So I just put on my taped copy of Pretty Noose. That song is so incredible, if you haven't heard it yet! Worth the wait!! - -- Cornell ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I caught the mood today, pick it up and throw it away. All right." --Soundgarden ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Darren L Kochersperger Subject: BMF/SOMMS I can`t beliveve it. I found a used copy of BMF/SOMMS this weekend for $12 bucks, what a bargain. Of course I already knew that BMF was good, but I have to admit that having never heard SOMMS I wasn`t sure what to expect. Needless to say it floored me. Does anyone know where I can find the original version of Stray Cat Blues? Darren ------------------------------ From: Fleur Weinstock Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 22 Apr 1996 about what one would do to chris if we found him unconscious: well, I'd probably give him gentle kiss on the lips (the friendship 'kine) and then I'd wake him up and we'd have a grand old chat in that field about what music is and why and how, et cetera. Of course, I can't wait for that to happen. to where the sound grows: ------------------------------ From: BrthRitual@aol.com Subject: Post virgin... Hello. I'm new to the list, and this is my first post. I just happened to stumble upon the unofficial SG page, and signed up for the list. So far it's been very entertaining, and informative. Especially the Shroom girl who is obsessed with Chris Cornell. She should write a book about the band. I'd buy it. I think I was the last person in the world to hear "Pretty Noose", but it was worth the wait. The new album is going to blow my mind, I can tell that already. But then again, SG has yet to disappoint me. I've been a SG fan for about 10 years now, and they have been my favorite band almost from the start. I've got an amusing little SG incident I witnessed to share with you. It was back in '87, I believe. SG was playing one of the countless little dives that I frequented in my youth. I don't think they were enjoying themselves that much on this particular night. The crowd wasn't very receptive, and the band was getting razzed a bit. Chris was very noticeably drunk. I was sitting at a table in the corner right near what was probably the smallest stage known to man. I had expected that they would quit the show in the middle, because I'd never seen a band take that much abuse, and not give up. I think that's one of the things that impressed me the most about them. Their determination. The crowd was hating them, but they didn't care. In fact, they played two extra songs, just because the crowd was giving them such a hard time. I thought it was great! When they finished the last song, Chris said "Fuck you. Fuck you all very much." Then he stumbled from the stage and made it to the corner of the bar that I was sitting in (not ten feet from me) before spraying the floor with puke. The bassist, Hiro, came over and helped him out of the bar, while the others packed up their equipment. It was an interesting night. I had no idea at the time that they would become so famous. I must say, though, there has never been a band more deserving of it. Ok, enough rambling. Wait, one last thing. Could whoever is keeping track of the SOMMS owners on this list add my name to it? Thank you... Alex ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: the sg phone line! directly from A&M... the official soundgarden phone line is now up and working. dial those fingers!! >BTW, the Soundgarden line is up (1-800-556-ROCK x905). ------------------------------ From: Karen.Hester@vuw.ac.nz Subject: Listening to a New Album blind dog described Pretty Noose ("the song, to me, is kind of like spoonman (also a first single) in that it's focus is more on rhythm than chris' vocals, and that the rhythm is hard to get into on the first listen...there is *so* much going on in the song, with everyone doing such a fantastic job with their instruments...") There's a pattern with these hardrockalternawhatsit groups, releasing a first single which is loud or complex so that they don't alienate their following and no one screams sell-out. It sure works on me, anyway - if Black Hole Sun had been the first Superunknown release I would've been kinda suspicious. Not that I've heard the Pretty Noose yet (hey, this is New Zealand for Somms sake!) but you lot are giving great descriptions. OponFam@aol.com explains her listening strategy: > > I like to listen to a whole album with > > headphones first. I have to be alone, and listen with my eyes closed to get > > the full effect. Yep, that's my way too. Sometimes I'll deviate for a band like SG who work so well at filling space (and expanding it and distorting it...), they're great loud, but I love that personal experience where it fills your head and you live in that world for a while. Gregg used the phrase "by storm" which is so true with Sg, it can have a powerful first impact. Crash. I think the reason I follow Kathie's approach with headphones is, like her (?), the importance of Chris' lyrics to me, that and The voice. Carolyn : > > enjoyed reading the responses so far, and I confess I fall somewhere between > > Jackhammer (who listens to music first, lyrics last - through the stereo, > > loud, while he's doing other work) and Kathie (who places high emphasis on > > lyrics - through the headphones, eyes closed, with no interruptions). We could do some lazy pop-psychology here and say that those who use headphones have an introverted relationship with music and that Jackhammer is into the live culture of music... ghastly generalization, but in my case somewhat true, there really are personal first-time-listening rituals. Closing your eyes helps the focus. (Carolyn):> > For that song, I cranked up the stereo, > > lay on my back on the lounge room floor, eyes closed, and just soaked it all > > in. I loved it. That's the best way to hear new music, with your eyes > > closed (like Kathie suggests), so you can FEEL it as well as just hear it. That allows you to drown in the song, let me drown.... Karen.Hester@vuw.ac.nz (looking forward to sinking below the surface) ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: Post virgin... THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS LIST! Where else could a puke story display foresight and expound pride? Alex, thank you! -Vikki :) ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ It was back in '87, I believe. SG was playing one of the countless little dives that I frequented in my youth. Chris was very noticeably drunk. I had expected that they would quit the show in the middle because I'd never seen a band take that much abuse. They played two extra songs just because the crowd was giving them such a hard time. When they finished the last song, Chris said "Fuck you. Fuck you all very much." Then he stumbled from the stage and made it to the corner of the bar before spraying the floor with puke. I had no idea they would become so famous. I must say, though, there has never been a band more deserving. -Alex ------------------------------ From: David_H._Steinhage@nrunner.mil.wi.us Subject: Re: Soundgarden what else?!? Whoah. I could totally relate to Maritza's message. I didn't completely agree with John's reply....Every band wants to make alot of money. Appealing to the majority is an easy way to do that. Although Kim Thayil said that alternative was "moving closer to SG", that is not completely true...SG DID get a little softer, and I fear they will sell out soon...And then SG will lose its uniqueness. WEll, that's the way it goes. Anybody here like RUSH at all? ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: a surefire toe-tapper... Hey, I heard Pretty Noose on the local rock radio station, 92citi fm. They were the 7th most requested song yesterday. I wonder if it had anything to do with me requesting it 12 times via internet. Just to be safe, I requested it 30 times today. I've got a blank tape ready, now all they have to do is PLAY IT!!!! Geoff On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, blind dog wrote: > > I heard pretty noose on the weekend thanks to seth and his > support of the u.s postal system, and it fuckin' rocks. I listened to it > about twenty five times over the weekend, and I am listening to it again > right now :) > > the song, to me, is kind of like spoonman (also a first single) in > that it's focus is more on rhythm than chris' vocals, and that the rhythm > is hard to get into on the first listen (even though it kicked ass the > first time around), but it is probably a little slower than spoonman. > there is *so* much going on in the song, with everyone doing such a > fantastic job with their instruments, but still not showing off or ruining > the song itself. > > the start is a little like what the hell have I by aic, but moves > away from that sound pretty quickly. there are a lot of toms going on at > the start, and the guitar tone kim has got crushes me. the chorus has ben > playing this riff which gets faster in the second half, which surprises > me, 'cause I didn't know that he could play so fast. maybe it sounds so > good because he is *so* tight with matt's drums :) there are also all > these background vocal parts going around that really add to the huge > fullness of the chorus and the whole song itself. > > the instrumental in the middle is cool, with kim doing some wild > stuff, some of which sounds like a guitar dying a horrible death. you can > talk about how billy corgan can layer guitar tracks, but as for self > production and the amount of detail they have put into the guitar for this > song, kim and chris are going to take that crown right of billy's little > bald head. seth was right about matt, in that he goes wild during the > lead break (I just heard a noise in the background that *can't* be a > guitar). he sounds like he is playing all the toms and cymbals > simultaneously, with more than his fair share of arms and hands (not to > mention his killer foot on the bass pedal, which works entirely without > respect to what the rest of his limbs are doing). like I said earlier, > self production has ceratinly not harmed their sound, because in the > middle of kim's lead break, you can hear this excellent from the > ride cymbal that just cuts through everything. > > after the lead break and chorus comes this odd little middle > eight, which knowing soundgarden isn't eight bars at all (and I don't > care what you got...I don't care what you need...I don't want anything), > and it sounds really cool. then the chrous gets another run through, and > then the distortion cuts out and chris is left to sing the half the > chorus through alone. then the song ends with a bit of a buttrock sort of > end, in a way that they don't normally end their songs. > > all in all, a great single from what will undoubtably be a great > album :) > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- > > > ------------------------------ From: onefellswoop Subject: Re: CC poll I would pick him up and take him to my house and lock him in a room. And when he awoke I would be standing over him saying "I'm your number one fan...I'm your number one fan". And I would keep him at my house to write an album just for me. And if he tried to leave I would break his legs. But in the end he would probably smash my head in with an amp. Geoff On Sun, 21 Apr 1996, Heather Aston wrote: > This may sound strange, but if I came across CC unconcious, I'd probably just > look through his wallet. You learn so much about a person from that. > ------------------------------ From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) Subject: Superunknown=finals week? Hey All- Just a random, sporadic thought, while I'm stressing over my hellish Typography final, I was listeing to Superunknown to vent. "Alive in the Superunknown, first it steals your mind and then it steals your...soul" Since no one knows really what kind of hell awaits them during finals, is there a more appropriate song to commerate this hellish week? That is, except for "Another Brick in the Wall" But this dead week will definately steal my mind, and quite possibly..my soul :) Laters Sean ------------------------------ From: Fleur Weinstock Subject: Re: a surefire toe-tapper... beautiful description, blind dog. - --fleur.................................. living loving fighting in the bright light of the sound garden............ ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: the sg phone line! chris and kim are sitting there waiting for your call. what difference does it make?! it's an 800 number! call it! On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, Fleur Weinstock wrote: > Who will you get if you call the soundgarden line? > > --fleur > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: the sg phone line! From: seth > what difference does it make?! it's an 800 number! call it! > > > Who will you get if you call the soundgarden line? For those actually interested in what you get when you call, it's a recording that plays four clips from the new record - "Pretty Noose," "Burden In My Hand," "Blow Up The Outside World," and "Never Named." This is a good way to hear them if you're having trouble listening to the Streamworks clips (they seem to me to be the same 50-second clips). seth ------------------------------ From: overfloater@bbs.cowland.com Subject: the sg phone line! CL>directly from A&M... the official soundgarden phone line is now up and CL>working. dial those fingers!! CL>>BTW, the Soundgarden line is up (1-800-556-ROCK x905). THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU.. I just called it.. I CANNOT wait for this album. Never Named sounds cool as hell. And I called and it kept skipping on me =( "Now let's hear Blow Up The Outsi.. Blow Up The Outsi.. Blow Up The Outsi.. Blow Up The Outsi.. Blow Up The Outside World." I thought it was gonna keep skipping, and I was out of luck. Fortunately it stopped =) And in case you haven't gotten the drift yet, THANK YOU! - -the mailing list member formerly known as foreshocks ------------------------------ From: EUPHORIA Subject: #number COULD SOMEONE REPOST THE SOUNDGARDEN 800 NUMBER ... I'M HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY SYSTEM AND IT GOT DELETED.... THANX... HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE RELEASE DATE FOR THE NEW SINGLE... eUPHORIA.... I WROTE A SONG ABOUT DENTAL FLOSS BUT DID ANYONES TEETH GET CLEANER FRANK ZAPPA THERES NO SUCH THING AS HALF FREEDOM NELSON MANDELA ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: I'm the dirt beneath your feet... if you have more money than me and you are interested in bidding for some soundgarden artwork, then visit the save the earth artrock auction and make an offer. there are two cool posters on auction, both of which have been signed by the whole band, one from 1994 (the other isn't dated). the minimum bids are $150 or $200 dollars for either poster, so I guess you would have to be really interested :) the address is http://www.commerce.com/save_earth/ ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: NEVER NAMED!!! OhmyChris!! You're so right Erin!! "Never Named" is fucking AWESOME!! I love it!! This is going to be one of the greatest albums EVER released!! Why oh why can't it be May already??!!?? Was it just me, or does Chris sing "love me like a god, but I was just a kid" in it? "Blow up the Outside World" sounds really groovy, too!! Can anyone make out any lyrics off of the little bits they give us? If you can... PUH-LEEZE post 'em!! I'm dying here, already!! -=Shroom=- ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: I'm the dirt beneath your feet... i saw this earlier, but the bidding closed at 1:00pm pST *today*. otherwise i would have bid for the superunkown poster ;( On Tue, 23 Apr 1996, blind dog wrote: > > > if you have more money than me and you are interested in > bidding for some soundgarden artwork, then visit the save the earth > artrock auction and make an offer. there are two cool posters on auction, > both of which have been signed by the whole band, one from 1994 (the > other isn't dated). the minimum bids are $150 or $200 dollars for either > poster, so I guess you would have to be really interested :) > > the address is http://www.commerce.com/save_earth/ > > > > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ From: caryn rose Subject: Re: #number I"LL DO IT IF YOU FIX YOUR CAPS LOCK PROBLEM. 1-800-556-ROCK x905 seth, can you please put this on the web site? ;-) On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, EUPHORIA wrote: > > COULD SOMEONE REPOST THE SOUNDGARDEN 800 NUMBER ... I'M HAVING PROBLEMS > WITH MY SYSTEM AND IT GOT DELETED.... > > > > THANX... > > HAS ANYONE HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT THE RELEASE DATE FOR THE NEW SINGLE... > > > eUPHORIA.... > > > I WROTE A SONG ABOUT DENTAL FLOSS BUT DID ANYONES TEETH GET CLEANER > FRANK ZAPPA > > THERES NO SUCH THING AS HALF FREEDOM NELSON MANDELA > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: Post virgin... > Hello. I'm new to the list, and this is my first post. I just >happened to stumble upon the unofficial SG page, and signed up >for the list. So far it's been very entertaining, and informative. >Especially the Shroom girl who is obsessed with Chris Cornell. >She should write a book about the band. I'd buy it. Oh wow... what an awesome idea!! Me writing a book!! I need a title!! Maybe "Shroom's guide to worshipping CC's sexy body." Nah... not witty enough. I need something that will grab the reader's attention. Anyone have any suggestions for a title? Heheheh... it's worth a try, anyway. I'll make an attempt at a first chapter, and then send it out to whoever wants to read it. I'd post it, but I can't promise it wouldn't be a little graphic. Heheheh... so if you want a copy... e-mail me in a couple weeks, and I'll send it to ya. And you get first dibs, Alex... >When they finished the last song, Chris said "Fuck you. Fuck >you all very much." Then he stumbled from the stage and made >it to the corner of the bar that I was sitting in (not ten feet from me) >before spraying the floor with puke. That was a GROOVY story!! I can't believe you saw Chris puke!! Ummm... it's totally disgusting, but cool as hell!! >I had no idea at the time that they would become so famous. I must >say, though, there has never been a band more deserving of it. Amen. Preach on brother Alex... oh wise and lucky SG freak... I love you, man!! -=Shroom=- "Hey Shroom... let's get naked." ~ Chris Cornell (Words not necessarily said in that order...) <~~~ my disclaimer ------------------------------ From: blind dog On Mon, 22 Apr 1996, Heather Aston wrote: > I said "just" because Shroom's question implied she would do other, > more carnal things to him, which the Puritans on this list don't want > to hear about. So I would "just" look through the wallet and maybe > cut a lock of hair, not anything else. what a shocker you are heather. I can just imagine you umming and ahhing over chris' unconscious body, scissors in hand, weighing up whether you should take a lock of his hair as a memento of the day you rifled through his wallet. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: "Vasant Ramamurthy" Subject: Yet another "I've heard Pretty Noose!" message Well, as the subject explains, I have now finally heard "Pretty Noose" about 3 times. (BTW, if you live the Chicago area, and have not heard it yet, listen to Rock 103.5 or Q101. They play it a lot.) I think it's a pretty good song. It really reminds me of TDITTL. The beat is sorta similar. The chorus "And I don't like what you got me hangin' from" sorta reminds me of "one more time around". Besides this song, the only other song from the new album I've heard is No Attention. The one I've heard is from the Self Pollution broadcast, so I'm just assuming the album version will sound the same. No Attention totally kicks ass on Self Pollution. So if this is true, it sounds like we're in for a bitchin' album! Of course, it's SG, so what else would we expect? ;-) Vasant - -- ******************************************************************************** The Refuge of the Damned http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html Vasant Ramamurthy vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Re: the sg phone line! caryn rose wrote: > (1-800-556-ROCK x905). I called the SG hot line... then some girl asked me for my three-digit area code.... I told her I wanted to talk with Chris and she didn't even answer me :) I decided to hang up before the fone co. would charge me more (1-800 calls cost $5 here in Mexico... about 67 cents US). Do I really need the area code??? Here in Mexico City the area code is 5, should I dial 555? Any other Ideas??? I would experiment but my folks would hang me :: Anyway, if somebody thinks of something just dial 1-800-IM-TOO-SEXY-FOR-MY-LOVE-YES-YES :^) URBANO ______________________________________________________________ |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia. | |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]| |____________________________________________________________| |____________ Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________| \__________________________/ ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: No Subject Y'know... AOL's mail service really blows. I never get my mail on time, or in the right order. I know, I know... I should quit bitching about it, and change service providers, already. > I said "just" because Shroom's question implied she would do other, > more carnal things to him, which the Puritans on this list don't want > to hear about. Damn straight I would do "carnal" things to him!! I really don't think I need to tell you people that by now. It should be common knowledge. And I honestly don't care if the "Puritans" want to hear it, or not. But I've been good with my posts. Well, decent anyway. Nothing really graphic. I've taken to private e-mail for that. You're welcome, people. I'm so nice... > So I would "just" look through the wallet and maybe > cut a lock of hair, not anything else. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. IT'S A HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION PEOPLE!! Calm down. It's all for fun. Why must some of you people take everything so damn seriously? Don't worry about it Heather. I swear... it's impossible to post ANYTHING without someone getting pissy about it. >what a shocker you are heather. I can just imagine you umming and >ahhing over chris' unconscious body, scissors in hand, weighing up >whether you should take a lock of his hair as a memento of the day you >rifled through his wallet. Get off your high horse, Blind Dog. Leave the girl alone. Who are you to pass judgement on her, anyway? Are you going to save our souls while you're at it??!? Heheheh... Heather, don't let these people get you down. If Blind Dog feels it necessary to post his "outrage" over your actions, let him. But it's only making him look foolish. I'm assuming that most everyone else on the list is aware that this thread is only in FUN. Some people just take things WAAAAY too seriously, not naming any names or pointing any fingers. Don't be afraid to post what you want, people. That's what keeps this list interesting. Even the posts from the people who are too serious. Ain't life grand, people??!!?? -=Shroom=- "And who the hell are you, to tell me what to do?" ~ Bad Religion ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: the sg phone line! SA>"Burden In My Hand," WOW! I LOVE this one! "I've lost my head again, won't you cry for me?" It looks like there's gonna be another year of figuring out some freakin' awesome lyrics (finding out where they came from and why they're there...stuff like that...I know, I'm nosey). SA>"Blow Up The Outside World," WOW! A slower song! It's freakin' cool! Then it kicks in! Total ruleage here. SA>"Never Named." I heard something about calling me god? Other than that, I don't rememberm, but I'll have those clips memorized by tomorrow. Good thing it's an 800 number. Nothingman -My red hair's got me blue...I wish my pubes were blue, too. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Lyrics... Shroom requested some lyrics, so here are some lyrics. At least what I got outta them... Pretty Noose We all know these now, right? Ok. Burden in My Hand I lost my love today Won't you cry for me? I lost my head again Won't you lie for me? I lost my (?) Just a burden in my hand I lost my head again Won't you cry for me? Blow Up the Outside World No one forgive me (?) pitiful I know (?) Give you everything I have Give you everything I know (?) Blow up the outside Blow up the outside world Never Named Dog (it's the first word I hear, anyway) (?) You loved me like a god But I was just a kid The kind money buys (it's not money buys, but it fits...it sounds like he says something lies) I've been down for inside (maybe down on the upside?) (?) (?) I'm getting lonely (?) pitifully That's all I know, someone add more, maybe I will later. Damn, they're making this harder every day. Nothingman -I'll never see myself in the mirror with my eyes closed. ------------------------------ From: OponFam@aol.com Subject: Cornell lyrics >Really to be honest I always had the idea that the song >like most Cornell >songs intentionally has several conflicting symbols >just to be impossible to >analyze / prove. How true, UnknownMan. I've always loved this about his lyrics, which I think are usually brilliant. One of my favorite examples of multiple meanings is Drawing Flies. Even the title could mean alot of different things: is he "drawing flies", like they're flying around him, or is he drawing flies, like with a pencil and are they flies, the insect, or flies, the zipper (with the content of the song it could be either). "Firing the pistol that shoots my holy pride" could have some interesting meanings too. How 'bout it Shroom? Kathie ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 103] ****************************************