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Today's Topics:
 

                                   Re: IRC
                               Re: PJ drummer
                                I Get A Buzz
                               Re: Music thang
                         you say it's your birthday
                               32 is old?????
                        Re: Various and Sundry Posts
                         What's wrong w/San Diego??
                         Re: the day i had to laugh
               Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 27 Mar 1996
                               Re: PJ drummer
                              RE: PJ drummer(s)
                               Re: PJ drummer
                                 PJ drummers
                                   sgkots
                             Re: 32 is old?????
                               Spring Cleaning
                         Re: Hunger Strike Version 2
                              Eddie and Andy...
                               32 and stuff...
                      Re: Chief Sealth / Into The Void
                         Re: the day i had to laugh
                                   Re:IRC
                               heavy rotation
                               Re: PJ drummer
                         Re: Hunger Strike Version 2
                                jason everman
                                    hello
                       dangled from the power lines...
                                   T-shirt
                     So they DO get online sometimes...
         Re: Awesome Article!!! Read or die slowly and painfully!!!
                              Re: in my ear...
                                 Re: Contest
                       Re: you say it's your birthday
                       Re: What's wrong w/San Diego??
                               Re: PJ drummer
                             Re: 32 and stuff...
                                  new hater
                       dangled from the power lines...
                   stop you're trying to bruise my mind...
                      A Cover of Blackhole Sun already?
                     Re: dangled from the power lines...
                            Re: talented singers
                           Chain Letters and Crap
                             FINAL SHIRT STUFF!
                          SHIRT ORDERS! IMPORTANT!
                                Guitar Wanted
                   Re: So they DO get online sometimes...
                                 ummmm... me
                         Re: the day i had to laugh
                                 Re: T-shirt
         Re: Awesome Article!!! Read or die slowly and painfully!!!
                                  READ THIS
                         get rich quick..(kidding))
                        Re: T-shirt and chain letter
                       Re: get rich quick..(kidding))
                              Re:Jason Everman
                         Re: the day i had to laugh
                       Re: get rich quick..(kidding))
                        Re: T-shirt and chain letter
                       Re: get rich quick..(kidding))

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From: frogger <gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: Re: IRC

Sounds good to me.  How does one go about doing this?


On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, URBANO wrote:

> Listen....
> 
> 	Chris Mackenzie and I (the ugly URBANO) where wondering
> 	if any somms members would be interested in founding
> 	an IRC channel like #SOMMS or something... The list
> 	has been populated lately whith unrelated threads that
> 	go from computers to Cindy Crawford... so we think it
> 	would be a great idea to disscuss those in IRC better.
> 	Oh... and of course... a bit of Soundgarden.  Please let
> 	us know if anybody interested....	
> 					URBANO
>  ______________________________________________________________
>  |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia.   |
>  |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]|
>  |____________________________________________________________|
>  |____________  Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________|
>        	      \__________________________/
> 

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: PJ drummer

J_> What really pisses 
J_>me off about Vedder is that if it weren't for PJ, he wouldn't be
shit. 

Yeah, but without Vedder, PJ would be just a couple guys in search of
someone to write great lyrics and sing better than just about everyone.
 Notice I said JUST ABOUT everyone.  I know other members of PJ write
some lyrics, but they don't write very many, and the vocals would be
VERY lacking without Eddie.  Just like if Chris left Soundgarden.

J_>He'd still be in SAN DIEGO (he's not from Seattle) pumping gas. 

I'll bet someone would have picked him up somewhere along the line.  He
might not have been as famous, but I doubt he'd mind.  But then again,
Pearl Jam probably wouldn't have been as famous without Eddie.  Just
look at Mother Love Bone.  They were famous, but not near as famous as
PJ.  But, again, I doubt they'd care.  I'm just glad I know of, and
appreciate, both of their music(s?).

J_>When i started listenin to Pj, I thought it was a group of guys that
made 
J_>good music because they all had input, WHICH WAS DIFFERENT... that
gave 
J_>them the formula.... good job Vedder

Which is what makes Soundagrden so great.  But I'm sure everyone gets a
say in the PJ music.  Maybe Dave just disagreed with something Eddie
felt strongly about.  From what I hear of him, he seems like a cry
baby.  Has to get what he wants, you know?

                                                               
Nothingman

    -All my love gone bad, turned my world to black.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: I Get A Buzz

CA>Hey all!  Is it just me, or do any of you get a real buzz if you hear a
CA>Soundgarden song played on the radio?  I know Foreshocks does - she's
CA>written about that before.

At my college, there's a room where there's a TV and some video games,
and the TV is regularly tuned to MTV, and when a Soundgarden video
comes on, I drop what I'm doing (even if I'm in the middle of a game),
push everyone out of the way, turn it up, and demand silence.  People
think I'm crazy, but they get into the songs, and now I sometimes see
people singing along with me.  I love telling people what my favorite
band is, and making them listen to it when they ride in my car.  

CA>ride, I guess.  I feel like "wow - they're playing a song by a FANTASTIC
CA>band that I love and yet not a lot of people know" and it puts me on top of
CA>the world.  When I say not a lot of people know Soundgarden and Violent
CA>Femmes, I mean that the average, everyday person walking down the street
CA>couldn't list 4 of their songs, even if they might have heard of the band na
CA>Know what I mean?

i know.  Everyone asks, "What's that fork mean?"  And I tell them how
my idol, Chris Cornell, wears one.  And they say, "Who?"  And I hit
them.  :)  No, I tell them he's he lead singer of Soundgarden, and they
either go, "Oh." and give it up, or say, "Oh yeah, Black Hole Sun,
right?"  I hate that.

CA>Carolyn the Metabolic Fun-drug

I like that one.  

                                                             Nothingman
 
   -I've got an idea of something we can do with a gun...SHOOT THE PREZ!

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From: John Patrick Freeman <jpfreem@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Music thang

Uhhh, didn't you just contradict yourself?  You don't like bands that
> put out the same stuff over and over, but AIC is "The sound is so
> heavy, and consistant....the band can continually come out with albums
> with one signifigant feel, and emotion to it."  and you like them
> because of it?  I agree that the emotions are about the same, but the
> sound is a bit different, although not a whole lot.  But I still like
> them.  Facelift is my favorite AIC album.  Hmmm...all my favorite
> albums from a lot of recent bands seem to be their first albums (except
> Soundgarden, because it changes a lot).  NIN, Primus, Pearl Jam, AIC,
> Candlebox, and Mariah Carey....just kidding.  ;)
> 
>                                                                
> Nothingman
>  
>    -Don't cut out my paper heart, I ain't dying anyway.
> 

God I am glad you are just kidding about liking Candlebox.  I was getting 
kind of worried about your taste in music.  Just kidding, to be polite.  
Anyway, I kind of think of the new AIC as the bastard child of Mad 
Season and Facelift.  
If you mix some Facelift with a equal amount of Mad Season, then presto 
you have the new AIC

Just an opinion from someone who should be writing a term paper instead 
of checking his e-mail

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Subject: you say it's your birthday
From: seth <saperl@MIT.EDU>

the list turns 8 months old today, and we're back up to 450
subscribers. thanks to everyone for making it work.

on a side note, the unofficial soundgarden homepage reached 50,000
hits today. it's been an honor and a pleasure working with you to make
it successful.

seth


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From: Caryn Rose <clr@eskimo.com>
Subject: 32 is old?????

shroom, sweetie, i know you didn't mean this.  i mean, i'm 32 and i'm
still wearing doc martens and my biker jacket and going to punk shows and
standing in the front, okay?  and waiting for iggy pop to get out to
seattle, and doing all sorts of shit that i guess people "my age"
shouldn't be doing (i mean it drives my mother bananas still)... so i
don't think the fact that chris is 32 means fuck all.  really.  age is a
state of mind

on that note, what have i been listening to?

- --the clash (1st album)
- --iggy & the stooges: tv eye, raw power
- --johnny thunders DTK
- --lou reed/set the twilight reeling
- --iggy pop/naughty little doggie
- --angry samoans
- --david bowie, ziggy stardust & the spiders from mars
- --afghan whigs, black love

i've also been watching about one live pearl jam video a night for the
last week or so...  right now we're up to 3/8/92. ;)  both 3/6/92 and
3/8/92 were cool cuz they played  bits of 'outshined' both nights. :))
3/8/92 they talked about how SG was their favorite band...

...and i bow before the almighty SG fans who have concrete in their ears
and heaven forbid dare to say they don't like something about them.  bite
me heartily. ;-P

here's a factual question:  there are *two* versions of the "hunger
strike" video.  can anyone tell me what the major differences are between
the two or why there were two made?  or is it just we have bad copies of
one so it looks majorly different?

thanks all...

- --caryn

http://www.eskimo.com/~clr : radio ethiopia

"i used to be disgusted, now i try to be amused..."


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From: Maritza Antunez <mantunez@sdcc13.ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: Various and Sundry Posts

RE: movies using Soundgarden songs....Singles, S.F.W., Pump Up the 
Volume, Lost Angels, Basketball Diaries....Hope this helps!  Maritza

On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Bryan Alan Blumklotz wrote:

> Shroom>>>
> 
> 	Mid-Life crisis at 22? Unless you have a vary short life span I think you just hit a post 
> teenage wake-up call... I had mine at 25. Once it was over and I had morned the loss of my 
> teenaged years (they where hell, but they were all I knew) I was able to get set for the next 
> crisis of age identity. BTW the 22-25 is a good range to wake up to your mortality... it means, 
> in temporal terms, you can not understand the language or the mentality of anyone younger than 
> say 18... <G>. On the flip side, most (notice I did not say all) people who make the strange 
> adjustment to adulthood (earily 20s) can start to speak meaninfully to other generations beyond 
> their own. Just some thoughts to make you feel better <G>.
> 
> Ross, Ross, Ross...>>>
> 
> 	I JUST wanted your selections. I specifically did not want to start another thread like 
> the dreaded PJ vs. SG series that I just started erasing in mass. Defending Maria C. and dissing 
> Ms. O'Rordan (sp?) is not a way of making friends here. In fact it gets off the point entirely... 
> SO CUT IT OUT. This is not the MC admiration society or the Cranberries Mail List. <Saracen 
> starts looking for his bad thread tangent bat>. BTW if you want to spiral into a flaming area 
> with my thread at least have the curtesy to change the Subject Heading so that my more harmless 
> thread dosen't get confused with your ill choosen one. Another, BTW... I am neither agreeing or 
> disagreeing with your post. I will not grace your provokation with a direct answer, NAH!
> 
> Chief Sealth>>>
> 
> 	I am sorry to be the bearer of bad tidings... but the lines that are attributed to Chief 
> Sealth where proven to be bogus. They where a beautiful enviromental message and admirable in 
> many waysm, but it turned out the speach was the creation of a white man (I have forgoten his 
> name) who made good Chief Sealth out to be a noble savage. I think it was the references to the 
> Plain's Indian Culture that made some historians suspicious. Chief Sealth would not had any 
> meaniful contact with Plain's Culture since he was NW Coast which is very different. My dad, who 
> loved that speach, was really pissed off when it was debunked. While the source may be 
> discredited, it does not make the message any less powerful. <Sigh> Isn't history grand...
> 
> Movie Soundtracks & Cameos>>>
> 
> 	Does anyone have a complete list of movies using Soundgarden music in the film and/or on 
> the soundtrack album. I know about Swingles (I spelled it that way because that is how me and my 
> brother deride that film) and Endless Summer II. What else has there music appeared in? Have they 
> made any cameos? I know that Foo Fighters front man Dave Grohl appeared in an X-Files episope, 
> what about our boys in SG? Have they appeared in any of those endless music documentries? Has MTV 
> done a "Rockumentery"? Do we care? If this thread has gone before I apologize.
> 
> 
> 	In (Multiple) Service,
> 
> 	Saracen
> 	AKA Bryan
> 	
> 	<Insert Gerneric SG lyric here> - Soundgarden
> 
> PS. Has anyone found a decent way of quotin from the digest version of the SG List? It would make 
> responding easier... <sigh>.
> 

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From: James B Hawken <mindriot+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: What's wrong w/San Diego??


> Eddie fired Dave because of "artistic differences"... What really pisses 
> me off about Vedder is that if it weren't for PJ, he wouldn't be shit. 
> He'd still be in SAN DIEGO (he's not from Seattle) pumping gas. So Eddie, 
> had to replace the SECOND PJ drummer with Jack Irons who he has known for 
> a while from San Diego.... and I think Abbruzzeze was the best drummer of 
> them all so far...
>
> just my two cents,
> jeremy
> j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu
> http://undertow.rh.ncsu.edu/
> 

Hey, what's wrong with pumping gas in San Diego??  I happen to live
there, and I can think of alot worse places to be stuck pumping gas-
Eddie should count himself lucky if he had to pump gas in Southern
California...

Also, I never knew that Vedder was from SD, was he born there or is he
just "from" there?

- - Jim

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From: frogger <gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: Re: the day i had to laugh

> On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Kate Mercier wrote:
> 
> > okay, you guys got me laughing... mmmhmmm, Chief Sealth is a friend of
> > the the bands.  I'm not laughing at the ignorance... it's totally
> > understandable to anyone outside of the west coast native community (and
> > Native American studies at school).  It's just the thought... it kills
> > me.  I mean, what a mental picture.

Hahahahahahahaha. If Chief Sealth is a friend of the band, that would make
him over 140 years old.  I guess you don't own somms do you?  The letter 
is attributed to Chief Sealth 1852.  I'm not an expert on Washington 
state hitory, but did anyone notice that Sealth and Seattle share almost 
all of their letters?  In the letter posted by Chris,  Kim himself says the 
letter was written by the founder of Seattle.  Seattle = Sealth.  Look 
who's laughing now.
							-Geoff


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From: Stuart Davies <stuart.davies@university-college.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 27 Mar 1996

i saw truly just before Christmas in London(hooray minor bands in 
England!!) and i thought they were very good and i bought the album which 
at the time was not available in the u.k. which i can recomend to all
along with the e.p.s Heart and Lungs and Truly both on Sub-Pop if and 
anybody wants catalogue numbers or any further info e-mail me
			Stuart Davies



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From: "Q-BERT (McCHEESE)" <beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu>
Subject: Re: PJ drummer

On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Kesa wrote:
> 
> I heard that Dave Abbruzzeze left the group because of "artistic
> differences."  Don't ask me what they mean by that.
> 
>                                         Kesa

READ:  Pearl Jam is getting sick of Eddie Vedder's endless search to be 
artsy-fartsy without coming off fake.  I think Ed would rather be obscure.

I thought it was the ultimate in poor form when at the grammy's Eddy went 
on stage to say in his weird smile quite voice "It doesn't, It doesn't 
mean nothing, it's all a joke".  I mean, have some respect for the fans 
Eddy before you have no fans, or a band.  The other guys really seemed to 
respect the award and said their "hi moms" and felt like stars for 3 
minutes.  Every other day they feel like the Eddy Vedder Experience and 
after awhile it will get to ya.  Thank god that CC has fought this off 
from the start.  Definately more mature than Eddies attention getting 
antics.  I just feel sorry for the real talent of Pearl Jam (The band 
minus Ed).

		Sorry no soundgarden (it's just that ED pisses me off), 
						Q-Bert

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From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" <mercylib@erie.net>
Subject: RE: PJ drummer(s)

Wow, now somebody raised a really sore point, at least for me!  I was 
so shocked when Dave A. was fired from PJ!  It seemed so sudden, tho 
from things I've heard and been told by people up there, PJ is 
definitely a band in trouble.

A friend of Mike McCready's told us that Dave's firing was ALL Eddie.  
He wanted Dave out, period, and yeah, wanted to bring in his buddy 
Jack.  What crap!  I never have liked Eddie--early on as a PJ fan, I 
got so tired of just hearing about him, and then as time went on he 
began to get weirder and weirder.  You know, acting drunk out of his 
head, yet then you'd hear no, it was all an act, he's making a 
statement and crap like that.  And Curtis Management is no 
better--they'll never tell the fans the truth, which knocks them down 
many notches in my books.  Lots of rumors, lots of "statements" from 
CM, but no reality.  Too bad Dave had to be the victim, b/c I thought 
he was great w/ the, always looked so happy, even when the rest of the 
band was being old gloomy guses.

I also agree w/ the early list comments that EV would be nothing w/out 
PJ, and what gives him the right to take over the band.  As far as I'm 
concerned, PJ is Stone and Jeff's band, period!  As for the agruement 
of PJ would be nothing w/out EV....I'm not so sure.  In fact, I'd love 
to see it.  Ten was a great album, and lots of us on this list think 
every subsequent album has gone downhill.  What's the problem?  Well, 
don't look to them for answers, b/c they aren't giving any.

Dave Krusen, I heard, left PJ b/c of a drinking problem and lots of 
other problems in his life.

Yep, mostly nonSg related, but once in a while we need to explore other 
avenues.  Thanks for listening!   cyl...deb

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From: the Kimmenator <kab004@dunix.drake.edu>
Subject: Re: PJ drummer

On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, He Who Walks Between wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 1996 j_crocke@unity.ncsu.edu wrote:
> > > I heard that Dave Abbruzzeze left the group because of "artistic
> > > differences."  Don't ask me what they mean by that.
> > Eddie fired Dave because of "artistic differences"... What really pisses 
> > me off about Vedder is that if it weren't for PJ, he wouldn't be shit. 
> Good point.  That is really annoying that he can come in being the new 
> kid on the block and just get rid of someone there he doesn't like.  What 
> if next album him and Jeff Ament have "Artistic differences"?  I would 
> suggest that Eddie either get over it or get out.  what a wus.
	just for what its worth, i have friends who are well acquainted
	with various important folk in the seattle scene...among those
	people they know: Dave Abbruzzese...why'm i bringing this up?
	because Dave felt ungood about pearljamly things before he was 
	'fired' and i have always heard that they agreed together Dave
	should be let go, that Dave had always felt like a bit of an
	outsider to the band and was having doubts about their future
	together while the second album was still being made...
	the Rolling Stone that came out just before Versus was released
	(the one with them on the cover, sitting outside...probably from
	october of 1993) comments Dave makes kindof allude to this feeling
	he had...
> So Eddie, 
> > had to replace the SECOND PJ drummer with Jack Irons who he has known for 
> > a while from San Diego.... and I think Abbruzzeze was the best drummer of 
> > them all so far...
	the ironic thing here, at least for me, is the fact that Jack Irons
	is really the guy who hooked Jeff and Stone and Mike up with Eddie
	to start with...he had a demotape sans vocals, he gave it to 
	Eddie and well...we know the rest...if we dont i'll tell us.
> Why did they get rid of the first drummer?  No one seems to talk about that.
	i posted the answer to this already, for some reason it didn't show
	up again yet tho, and my addressbook is freaky...so i'll post it again
	later in the day if it hasn't shown up.> 
ok, that's totally not soundgarden related...
hummmm.
kiM
=--=
  Losing myself in a white trash hell...
    kiM, the Kimmenator, just that freak with mountainbikes and plaid boots.
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From: Stuart Davies <stuart.davies@university-college.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject: PJ drummers

From what I know of the pj drummers thing Dave Krusen left because he did 
not like the touring schedule and did not feel upto it he apparently felt 
like he was letting them down.Dave A. left because of artistic 
differences with the whole band not just E.V. initially the split-up was 
said to be amicable but a few articles about D.A. suggest otherwise from 
the various things i have read it seems to be reasonably amicable i.e. he 
did not want to be their either and later just let-off a bit of 
steam.Somebody mentioned Matt Chamberlain apparently he filled in for a 
bit as did Regan Hagar Ex Malfunkshun friend of Stone Gossard Jack Irons 
did the same but his position then became more stable and joined P.J. 
when most of Vitalogy was written.Jack was the person who apparently got 
Vedder in contact with the other members and hence was the person behind 
the formation of P.J.

			Stuart Davies



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From: Stuart Davies <stuart.davies@university-college.oxford.ac.uk>
Subject: sgkots

i have lost the knights of the soundtable email address could somebody 
send it me

			Stuart Davies



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From: Andrew Dunn <addunn@blarg.net>
Subject: Re: 32 is old?????

On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Caryn Rose wrote:

> shroom, sweetie, i know you didn't mean this.  i mean, i'm 32 and i'm
> still wearing doc martens and my biker jacket and going to punk shows and
> standing in the front, okay?  and waiting for iggy pop to get out to
> seattle, and doing all sorts of shit that i guess people "my age"
> shouldn't be doing (i mean it drives my mother bananas still)... so i
> don't think the fact that chris is 32 means fuck all.  really.  age is a
> state of mind

Uh ohhh... watch out shroom!  =)

> here's a factual question:  there are *two* versions of the "hunger
> strike" video.  can anyone tell me what the major differences are between
> the two or why there were two made?  or is it just we have bad copies of
> one so it looks majorly different?

I thought it was just different editing techniques... For some really 
bizarre reason I used to have a tape of MTV from like 1991, and it was 
Headbanger's Ball from like the heavy-metal-community-convention or 
something... they played Jesus Christ Pose video and 
had interviews with Chris and showed a little of the Temple of the Dog 
playing live... (Also has a small interview with Eddie who at the time 
looked REALLY weird) I taped over most of it but I have one that has a 
different editing on it... I think after the two bands became popular they 
may have re-edited and re-released it.



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From: "Q-BERT (McCHEESE)" <beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu>
Subject: Spring Cleaning

It is spring in this part of the world (except for me and Geoff, as well 
as Australia, I guess) so  . . .

Let's spring clean the list up!!!!

I've been meaning to say something about this for some time, and now 
thanks to URBANO (Puedo ir UrBano  <my bad humor) and Chris have decided 
to help set up an IRC, I think we could get the list cleaned up (of 
extraneous posting that we are all guilty of (including myself!)).  I 
think the IRC would still let us be friendly amongst us old timers and 
let the new people feel at home.  I am really sick of seeing unsubscribers 
every day.  It's really depressing.  They think they can get everything 
they need of the home page and the mail is too much for them to handle 
(from the ones I've talked to).

With the IRC in place, this list could become a place to discuss 
soundgardens MUSIC.  As for the rest, I hope it goes to the IRC.  Ohh, 
and if Urbano and Chris need help setting the IRC up, I'm in.  

We already have the best band resource on the web, the IRC can only help.

		Thanks for listening,
				Mayor of the SuperMcCheese

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From: ansel@morgan.com
Subject: Re: Hunger Strike Version 2

     I specifically remember a version of the 'Hunger Strike' 
     video in which none of the Temple of the Dog band members 
     appeared.  The video consisted of only the lighthouse and 
     Discovery Park scenery.  IMO, the record company re-released 
     TotD on the coattail of the Seattle scene, of course, but 
     put together a 'quick' scenic version so as not to delay the 
     promotion of the album - it probably took patience to gather 
     TotD in Seattle for the video shoot (weren't PJ/SG touring 
     extensively at the time?)
     
     Vikki


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
Author:  Caryn Rose <clr@eskimo.com> at nylanr01
Date:    3/27/96 11:53 PM

There are *two* versions of the "Hunger Strike" video.  What the major 
differences are between the two or why there were two made?

     

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From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com
Subject: Eddie and Andy...

> But then again,
>Pearl Jam probably wouldn't have been as famous without Eddie. 
      True... Eddie was a major factor in making PJ what it is today.
 Eddie's ok, even if he is a whiny bastard sometimes.  At the last PJ concert
in Austin (last summer with the Ramones... what a combo), they started the
concert at 4pm, because PJ had to get to New Orleans by the next day.  I
almost had a heat stroke in the fucking pit, 'cuz the sun was still out (yah,
I'm an idiot).  And to make matters worse, Eddie kept whining about how there
was some guy in NOLA who wanted to beat him up.  And then towards the end of
the concert Eddie offered to trade his wife for a copy of some really rare
tape. Don't ask me which tape, 'cuz I was really stoned, and severly bored of
listening to Eddie whine about PJ's having to leave. So I ask of you
people... Eddie Vedder:  "grunge" martyr  or  whiny bastard?  Gee... guess
which one I picked?  Sorry PJ fans... 

>Just look at Mother Love Bone.  They were famous, but not near
> as famous as PJ.  But, again, I doubt they'd care. 
     Andy would care.  Andy's main goal in life was to be a rock star.  He
wanted the whole rock star lifestyle.  He craved it... he dreamed of it...
and he was so fucking close to getting it.  Anyone seen the "Love Bone Earth
Affair"?  There's a part in there where Andy's talking about how he wants to
play arenas.  Even if they had to go on tour with Warrant, he wanted to play
arenas.  That was the scene he wanted.  He also said he wanted a tour bus,
not a van.  "I've definitely realized touring in a van is not what I want to
do.  I want a bus. I need a bus!!  Quickly!!  A bus!!"  All the way back to
Malfunkshun, he had the total rock star persona.  One of my favorite pictures
in the world is the cover of Malfunkshun's album "Return to Olympus".  Andy.
 I love that picture even more than the picture of Chris on the TDITTL
poster.  If Andy had lived, he definitely would have been a rock star by now.
 It was in him.  He was destined for fame.  Heheheh... I've always wondered
how Andy and Eddie would have gotten along, had they the chance to meet.
 They're such opposites.  Eddie shuns the spotlight, while Andy craved it
with a passion.  <sigh>  Ok... now I'm depressed.  Thank yew and good night.
 <kisskiss>
                                           Shroom
"I'm the instigator of the me generation
the official seminator of the female population
and I scoff at my rivals cause they ain't cool
and I rewrote the bible and made my own rules
I'm captain hightop the love commander
the Ego Star forever after"
  ~ Captain Hi-Top... MLB, Andy Wood

"Lets fall in love with music
The driving force in our living
the only international language
divine glory, the expression
the knees bow, the tongue confesses
the lord of lords, the king of kings
words and music - my only tools"  
  ~ Man of Golden Words... MLB, Andy Wood
                               |
                              |.|
                              |.|
                             |\./|            "She drinkin' my JackDaniels 
                             |\./|                 and smokin' all my weed"
                .\           |\./|           /.              ~~Andy Wood, MLB
                \-.\        |\\.//|        /.-/        
                \--./\      |\\.//|      /\.--/
                 \--.| \    |\\.//|    / |.--/
                  \---.|\    |\./|    /|.---/
                     \--.|\  |\./|  /|.--/
                        \ .\  |.|  /. /
                _  -_-   \ \\ // /  -_- _
               - -/_/_/-    | |    -\_\_\- -
                             /_\




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From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com
Subject: 32 and stuff...

>shroom, sweetie, i know you didn't mean this.  i mean, i'm 32 and i'm
>still wearing doc martens and my biker jacket and going to punk shows and
>standing in the front, okay?  and waiting for iggy pop to get out to
>seattle, and doing all sorts of shit that i guess people "my age"
>shouldn't be doing (i mean it drives my mother bananas still)... so i
>don't think the fact that chris is 32 means fuck all.  really.  age is a
>state of mind
     Well, damn me straight to hell again and again and again... I didn't
mean to insult anyone on the list.  Hmmm... and I thought I only courted
controversy every day in person.  I was just saying that I was feeling
insanely ancient at the moment.  When Chris' age originally flashed through
my mind as 26, and then I realized he was going to be 32... well, it seemed
OLD.  I remember listening to SG when I was 16, and loving CC back then.  And
now I'm 22.  That's a huge jump between those two ages, 16 and 22.  More so I
think, than 26 and 32.  It's like I've spent the last 6 years in this
time-warp.  And now all of the sudden, it's catching up with me.  God, I
sincerely hope that 32 isn't old.  I get the feeling I'm going to be there
before I know it.
     And now on to SG stuff... how long will it take for the shirts to be
completed?  I'm dying to get mine.  I can't wait for people to start coming
up to me and asking "What the hell is SOMMS@MIT.EDU?  What's that mean?  Did
you get that shirt at Spencers?  Oh yah, Soundgarden.  They sing that
Spoonman song, right?  Yah, my brother has their first album.  That one with
Outshined on it.  I bought Superunknown.  I listen to it all the time, and I
know all the lyrics to it.  'She lived like her mother, but she died... just
like suicide.'  Oh yah... I'm a big fan of Soundgarden's!"  Ignorant people
make me laugh.   
     Hey... here's another thing to think about, peoples.  For those of you
who are cursed, like me, with AOL... I think it would be kinda interesting
for us all to meet up online some night... just to get a private room for a
half hour or so and talk.  Anyway... if any of you AOL freaks are
interested... drop me some e-mail, and maybe we can get something set up.
       <kisskiss>
                                    Shroom
 ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... ***  Chris Cornell



------------------------------

From: "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Chief Sealth / Into The Void

NO!  IT's CHIEF SEATTLE.  That's who Seattle is named after...

On Tue, 26 Mar 1996 ansel@morgan.com wrote:

>      Chief Sealth (according to the AAA Washington State guide
>      book), is an actual Indian from which Seattle derives its
>      name.  I have a copy of Chief Sealth's essay to the pioneers
>      invading and destroying his homeland - it's a few paragraphs
>      longer than what we hear in Soundgarden's 'Into the Void'.
>
>      Vikki
>
>
> ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________
> Subject: Re: SG cover of Into The Void...
> Author:  Segundo Benjamin Orell <segundo@mizar.usc.edu> at nylanr01
> Date:    3/26/96 11:35 AM
>
> Better question on this song is who wrote the lyrics??? Who in the hell
> is Chief Sealth?? Friend of the band ??? All I'm really sure of though is
> the lyrics are right on.
>


------------------------------

From: "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: the day i had to laugh

Yes, Chief Seattle is the founder of Seattle or who they named the city
after.

On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Kate Mercier wrote:

> okay, you guys got me laughing... mmmhmmm, Chief Sealth is a friend of
> the the bands.  I'm not laughing at the ignorance... it's totally
> understandable to anyone outside of the west coast native community (and
> Native American studies at school).  It's just the thought... it kills
> me.  I mean, what a mental picture.
>
> Also:  I forgot something that i listen to a LOT.  Um... the Kids
> soundtrack.  for some odd reason I have an attatchment to the last song
> (by SLint) called Good Morning Captain.  Does anyone else like the album?
> Does anyone else like Folk Implosion?
>
> Also:  Rage!  the 16th of abril!  yay!
>
> bibi_____________________   Kate
> (you made me seize my knees and sneeze)
>


------------------------------

From: el@algonet.se (Erik)
Subject: Re:IRC

URBANO wrote:
>Listen....
>
>	Chris Mackenzie and I (the ugly URBANO) where wondering
>	if any somms members would be interested in founding
>	an IRC channel like #SOMMS or something... The list
>	has been populated lately whith unrelated threads that
>	go from computers to Cindy Crawford... so we think it
>	would be a great idea to disscuss those in IRC better.
>	Oh... and of course... a bit of Soundgarden.  Please let
>	us know if anybody interested....	
>					URBANO

Yes, it's a great idea! :)
I'm interested and I also have one question.
How long will it take to get this baby on the road?

Erik


------------------------------

From: Alie <amugford@mustang.uwo.ca>
Subject: heavy rotation

I just got a new cd in the mail from my friend in New Zealand, and it has to
be added to my list - Traction by Supergroove.  Man, these guys are great!
Alie.
****************************************************************************
A L I E   M U G F O R D
amugford@mustang.uwo.ca

"You are right.  His dumbness is deafening.  It's the silence of the
primeval forest, heavy with menaces."  -  Albert Camus
****************************************************************************


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From: "Jennifer L. York" <jyork@usibr01.usi.edu>
Subject: Re: PJ drummer

> 
> 
> I thought it was the ultimate in poor form when at the grammy's Eddy went 
> on stage to say in his weird smile quite voice "It doesn't, It doesn't 
> mean nothing, it's all a joke".  I mean, have some respect for the fans 
- -----------
       I didn't see that but damn, if you don't want any part of the 
grammy's, Eddie, then don't go. Don't even waste your time. The fact that 
he showed up there (to me) means that it does mean something to him.
I say, if you work your ass off for years in a band playing music you 
like, you want some kind of recognition. Every guy I know who's in a band 
wants to "make it" . They WANT to promote their band, they want to get 
signed. they want to be famous. And I don't think there's any difference 
between a 
really good band and a really good band who happens to get signed to a 
label. it's all luck, and politics, and ass-kissing and all that music 
business shit. But once you make it, hell, take advantage. I sure won't 
have a nervous breakdown trying to figure out how to spend all of the 
money.  I heard an interview once , I think it was with courtney love or 
about her or something. Anyway the point of it was that she said once she 
and kurt went out and bought a lexus and they got ridiculed so much from 
the people in (seattle I guess) that kurt took it back.  Oh yeah we're 
rich, so LET'S BUY A PINTO. I don't understand it. it's capitalism. You 
might hate it (i know I do), but if you get your self into it...milk it.
just because you spend money or get a grammy doesn't mean your musical 
talent disappears. 
That's why I love white zombie (among other reasons). They want to sell out
They love to exploit themselves. That's what its all about anyway IMHO
jennifer 

------------------------------

From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Re: Hunger Strike Version 2

Vikki wrote:
> 
>      I specifically remember a version of the 'Hunger Strike'
>      video in which none of the Temple of the Dog band members
>      appeared.  The video consisted of only the lighthouse and
>      Discovery Park scenery.  

	If I remember it right, I saw a video where chris was sitting
under a table (just like in the 'normal' video) and then the camera 
focused some dishes full of ants... or perhaps this is just the
beginning of the 'normal' video...
					URBANO
 ______________________________________________________________
 |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia.   |
 |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]|
 |____________________________________________________________|
 |____________  Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________|
       	      \__________________________/

------------------------------

From: Enrique Olavarria <e-olavar@amauta.rcp.net.pe>
Subject: jason everman

who said jason everman sucks? why would he?
the last thing i knew about him was that he joined mind funk on guitar. and
the album he did with them ("dropped") is VERY good. has mind funk done
anything new since dropped with or without jason? anyone know? anyway, i
have dropped and the debut mind funk album (without jason) and dropped is
much better. everman's guitar is very good. any of you who havent heard this
album, check it out, its very good (the debut album is great too), a lot of
black sabbath influence.
enrique.


------------------------------

From: hs195@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lara Kocab)
Subject: hello

wow. Its been awhile since I have actually checked my mail, let
alone peek into this list...(been in Japan for two weeks)
anyways, I just wondered if the whole lollapalooza thing is worth
going to see.....well, soundgarden is gonna be there, so it
is going to be worth it.....
	oh yeah, I also was curious about the soundgarden cd-rom
and if it sucks...( thats what I heard)
	gotta go...jetlag is killing me
			-Lara

------------------------------

From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: dangled from the power lines...

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Carolyn wrote:

> What is the technical name for the choppy guitar sound that some bands
> produce?  When I say choppy, I mean that sound I adore in Soundgarden's
> "Uncovered".  It's got that screechy, scratchy, stop-and-start feel about
> it.  It sounds so cool!  Do you know the sound I mean?

	my guess is that you are talking about harmonics carolyn. I've 
been trying to hum uncovered for a couple of minutes, but I can't 
remember where they put them in. but if the sound is like the riff from I 
don't know anything by mad seson or the fills kim does at the end of 
mailman, then you are probably thinking harmonics. I'll leave it up to 
the guitar players of the list to answer how exactly it is done, or if 
I'm even right :)

                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
                       -----------------------------------


------------------------------

From: ROBIN <al639266@sun1.ur.mx>
Subject: T-shirt

Hi ! I'm a mexican girl and I really love the T-shirt idea but I don't know
how can I have one, maybe is more difficult to get one because the place
where I live.
Thanks.
Love is like suicide
nmc.


------------------------------

From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: So they DO get online sometimes...

URBANO wrote to sgkots@aol.com:
>I just wanted to ask if the members from the band get online sometimes.
>I don't mean into the forums or chats, but do they browse the web?

And then they replied:
> Yes they do. Some of the guys log on from home,
> browse the web and check out discussion groups.

If this is true I don't know why the all-caps dude couldn't have
been Matt. So remember, everytime you write that Chris is gay
there are chances he could read that in the digest, and then he'll
come in your dreams to pull your toes... he he he he he....

Oh, and someone besides me notices something wrong
with this URL that the net-managers of SG sent me?
 Look:
>Check out Soundgardens website on the Internet at
>http:\\Rocktropolis.com\SoundgardenWhat a shame :^)
					URBANO
 ______________________________________________________________
 |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia.   |
 |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]|
 |____________________________________________________________|
 |____________  Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________|
       	      \__________________________/

------------------------------

From: Carolyn <carolyn.hanel@mtg.for.csiro.au>
Subject: Re: Awesome Article!!!  Read or die slowly and painfully!!!

At 11:01 PM 27/03/96 -0700, Chris Mackenzie wrote:
>I just spent the last 1 and 1/2 hours typing this sucker, so read it 
>dammit! :) 

Chris, I just read it while munching on my vegemite sandwich for lunch, and
enjoyed it.  Thanks so much for typing that sucker!!

>.....This is one of the better SG articles I've read, very 
>informative. 

I agree.  I was particularly interested to read:
>That aspect of rock'n'roll stardom isn't part of the Soundgarden 
>ambience?
>
>"Not at all.  Sex and drugs are not neccessarily correlated with being a 
>rock musician."

Hear hear.

> Oh yeah, Seth, if this article is already on your page, 
>please shoot me when you get the chance.  Thanx. 

Seth, even if it IS on your page, don't shoot him!  Because for unfortunates
like me, reading things from the web takes a long, long time - which I don't
have - so to be able to receive things like this via email is far more
practical.

Thanks again, Chris!

Carolyn the Mind-boggling Facelift
*************************************************
I'll put on my charm; I'll tingle your spine.......Violent Femmes
It does not pay to be drunk and horny.....Sublime
*************************************************


------------------------------

From: Cornell <melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net>
Subject: Re: in my ear...

At 11:24 PM 3/27/96 EST, seth wrote:

>
>Skin Yard (C/Z, 1986)
>	Clear vinyl! Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm looking
>	forward to it, as it features Mr. Matthew Cameron on drums.
>	4 bucks.

The Superunkown vinyl is a really cool clearish blue color.  Just
saying....
Gregg
 _________________________________________     
|                                         | "Don't come over here and piss on my
|    Check out my *NEW* homepages!        |  gate.  Save it just keep it off My
| Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 |  Wave"--Soundgarden
|                                         |
|____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___|    
 
"It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity
 contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, 
 justice and all that bullshit."
       
                                             


------------------------------

From: Cornell <melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net>
Subject: Re: Contest

At 12:51 AM 3/28/96 -0600, URBANO wrote:
>Has anyone entered to that contest
>to win the Soundgarden snowboard?
>(The one announced on the official site)
>
>					URBANO

I have...I hope I win, that way i won't have to buy one when the season
rolls around next years....oh well, if wishes were fishes.
Gregg
P.S. I entered my mom's name cause i'm not 18 yet....I hope she doesn't
take up snowboarding.
 _________________________________________     
|                                         | "Don't come over here and piss on my
|    Check out my *NEW* homepages!        |  gate.  Save it just keep it off My
| Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 |  Wave"--Soundgarden
|                                         |
|____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___|    
 
"It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity
 contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, 
 justice and all that bullshit."
       
                                             


------------------------------

From: Cornell <melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net>
Subject: Re: you say it's your birthday

This made me think....
I'm really glad that I'm on this mailing list.  Even though sometimes
we all get into disagreements and stuff, it's nice to communicate
with a bunch of intelligent people who don't (well, *can't*) judge
people on their looks or race or whatever.  You know what I'm trying
to say.

And I'm glad that Seth makes the time to be the listadmin and take care
of the SG Website (I think it's better than the official site overall) when
he really DOESN'T have to.  Thanks Seth.  We owe you a lot.
Gregg

At 02:12 AM 3/28/96 EST, seth wrote:
>the list turns 8 months old today, and we're back up to 450
>subscribers. thanks to everyone for making it work.
>
>on a side note, the unofficial soundgarden homepage reached 50,000
>hits today. it's been an honor and a pleasure working with you to make
>it successful.
>
>seth
>
>
 _________________________________________     
|                                         | "Don't come over here and piss on my
|    Check out my *NEW* homepages!        |  gate.  Save it just keep it off My
| Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 |  Wave"--Soundgarden
|                                         |
|____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___|    
 
"It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity
 contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, 
 justice and all that bullshit."
       
                                             


------------------------------

From: Cornell <melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net>
Subject: Re: What's wrong w/San Diego??


>Also, I never knew that Vedder was from SD, was he born there or is he
>just "from" there?
>
>- Jim

I think that he was born in Chicago, but moved out there when he found out that
the man he though was his REAL father was his STEPfather, and that his Real Dad
had died and his mom never told him.  The inspiration for Alive, I think.
Gregg
 _________________________________________     
|                                         | "Don't come over here and piss on my
|    Check out my *NEW* homepages!        |  gate.  Save it just keep it off My
| Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 |  Wave"--Soundgarden
|                                         |
|____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___|    
 
"It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity
 contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, 
 justice and all that bullshit."
       
                                             


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From: Cornell <melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net>
Subject: Re: PJ drummer

At 12:52 PM 3/28/96 -0600, Jennifer L. York wrote:

>I say, if you work your ass off for years in a band playing music you 
>like, you want some kind of recognition. Every guy I know who's in a band 
>wants to "make it" . They WANT to promote their band, they want to get 
>signed. they want to be famous. And I don't think there's any difference 
>between a 
>really good band and a really good band who happens to get signed to a 
>label. it's all luck, and politics, and ass-kissing and all that music 
>business shit. But once you make it, hell, take advantage. I sure won't 
>have a nervous breakdown trying to figure out how to spend all of the 
>money.

Speaking of promoting bands...(hehe)
goto:
http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2/soulsick.html
YAH!
Goodbye now!
Gregg 
 _________________________________________     
|                                         | "Don't come over here and piss on my
|    Check out my *NEW* homepages!        |  gate.  Save it just keep it off My
| Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 |  Wave"--Soundgarden
|                                         |
|____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___|    
 
"It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity
 contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, 
 justice and all that bullshit."
       
                                             


------------------------------

From: Cornell <melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net>
Subject: Re: 32 and stuff...


>     And now on to SG stuff... how long will it take for the shirts to be
>completed?  I'm dying to get mine.  I can't wait for people to start coming
>up to me and asking "What the hell is SOMMS@MIT.EDU?  What's that mean?  Did
>you get that shirt at Spencers?  Oh yah, Soundgarden.  They sing that
>Spoonman song, right?  Yah, my brother has their first album.  That one with
>Outshined on it.  I bought Superunknown.  I listen to it all the time, and I
>know all the lyrics to it.  'She lived like her mother, but she died... just
>like suicide.'  Oh yah... I'm a big fan of Soundgarden's!"  Ignorant people
>make me laugh.   

Hehe.

>     Hey... here's another thing to think about, peoples.  For those of you
>who are cursed, like me, with AOL... I think it would be kinda interesting
>for us all to meet up online some night... just to get a private room for a
>half hour or so and talk.  Anyway... if any of you AOL freaks are
>interested... drop me some e-mail, and maybe we can get something set up.
>       <kisskiss>
>

I'd go on AOL just to be able to do this one night. (They sent me all those
disks....and dammit! I formatted them and stored files on 'em!)
Gregg
 _________________________________________     
|                                         | "Don't come over here and piss on my
|    Check out my *NEW* homepages!        |  gate.  Save it just keep it off My
| Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 |  Wave"--Soundgarden
|                                         |
|____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___|    
 
"It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity
 contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, 
 justice and all that bullshit."
       
                                             


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From: Erin Blue <ernblue@bright.net>
Subject: new hater 

hey yall, just heard a new hater song on the norml support complation
norml national orginization for reform of marijuana laws.
goood disk
HEY SHROOM  STOP LISTENING TO THAT SHIT PEOPLE ARE SAYING ABOUT U. WHO CARES?
I THINK YOUR PERVERTED STUFF IS PRETTY TAME COMPARED TO THE THOUGHTS I HAD
AFTER I SAW YOUR PIC ON THE LIST.HANG IN THERE.
EB
66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
ANYONE ON THIS LIST THAT DOESNT HAVE A BLACK SABBATH ALBUM NEEDS WE SOLD OUR
SOULS FOR ROCK-N-ROLL
66666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666
                                                                            
                                                             


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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: dangled from the power lines...

S3>On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Carolyn wrote:

S3>> What is the technical name for the choppy guitar sound that some bands
S3>> produce?  When I say choppy, I mean that sound I adore in Soundgarden's
S3>> "Uncovered".  It's got that screechy, scratchy, stop-and-start feel about
S3>> it.  It sounds so cool!  Do you know the sound I mean?

Do you mean the sound like the guitar throughout Kyle Petty?  The
bouncy riff?  Like how each chord is choppy and it feels all bouncy?  I
LOVE that, but I dunno if that's what you are talking about.  Louder
Than Love is in the car.  :(
 
                                                                
Nothingman
 
   -And then she tells me I'm a creep.

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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: stop you're trying to bruise my mind...

	I was just thinking how cool it will be to get the new album and 
hear never the machine forever, a song written entirely by kim. it will 
be interesting tho listen to what he comes up with on his own. his lyrics 
to room are pretty good, and we know that he can write a good riff 
(superunknown, kyle petty and get on the snake). it should be cool, 
seeing that it is the one song that he has really talked about inthe 
prerelease articles. now if only matt would combine his riffs (mailman 
and limo wreck) with some of his own lyrics :)

	btw, I heard let me drown on the radio here in australia the 
other day. I thought it was an odd choice, but a good one (being one of 
my favourites of superunk).

                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
                       -----------------------------------


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From: Bryan Alan Blumklotz <Saracen@cris.com>
Subject: A Cover of Blackhole Sun already?

Hey All>>>

	I was roaming the net and stumbled across this little bit...

Taken from the Restless Records Web Page: What's New Section by Lyndsey (???)
http://www.restless.com/


A PSYCHEDELICATESSEN OF MOOG-A-DELIC TREATS

The Moog Cookbook, the duo of Roger Joseph Manning Jr. (Jellyfish, Imperial Drag) and Brian 
Kehew, offers electronic recipes for new-rock classics by such with-it beat combos as 
Soundgarden, Weezer, The Offspring, Green Day, R.E.M., Nirvana and Pearl Jam, performed entirely 
on Moogs and other tripped-out space-age keyboards. 

With a pantry of ping-pong percussion, simmering sinewaves, synthetic herbs and transistorized 
spices, these sonic chefs whip up a psychedelicatessen of such moog-a-delic treats as the 
deep-fried freakout "Free Fallin'" (compete with digital Speak-'n'-Spell vocals!), the Fat 
Albert/Sanford And Son-esqe boogie-rocker "The One I Love" and the ectric boogaloo/ Eurotrash 
dance hit "Evenflow."

This week the rough cut of the Cookbook's Devo-esque, early'80s-style music video for "Black Hole 
Sun" (complete with cheesy retro blue-screen effects, hi-8 video, people in dancing bear and 
astronaut suits and even a cameo by me, as a mad scientist in a white lab coat) came in, and it 
is just so bizarre, bewildering and brilliant. Reminds me of the glory days of MTV gone by, when 
Falco, The Buggles, Devo and Gary Numan ruled the airwaves. Just wait until it's up on this 
website in a few weeks!

	Well I hope you all are as psyched as I am to check this out... <G>.


	In (New Wave) Service

	Saracen
	AKA Bryan

	<Insert Generic SG Lyric> - Soundgarden

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From: Ross Filipek <rfilipek@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: dangled from the power lines...

I don't think it's harmonics. Aren't harmonics those really high-pitched 
notes you get from barely tapping the strings in different places? I 
think what you're talking about are just muted 8th notes going through a 
grunge pedal. But then again, I'm no guitar player..... :)

Ross

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> S3>On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, Carolyn wrote:
> 
> S3>> What is the technical name for the choppy guitar sound that some bands
> S3>> produce?  When I say choppy, I mean that sound I adore in Soundgarden's
> S3>> "Uncovered".  It's got that screechy, scratchy, stop-and-start feel about
> S3>> it.  It sounds so cool!  Do you know the sound I mean?
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

		    "But in your heart I'd freeze."                   
				       --C. Cornell            
        

      







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From: "S.E. Rialkiller" <W.N.Foppen@stud.tue.nl>
Subject: Re: talented singers

> So she might not be talented.  (for all I know).  BUT I love the
> Cranberries.  Zombie and Linger and so many other songs of theirs send
> shivers down my spine when I hear them.  Talented?  Who gives a shit?  As
> long as I like the sound that's good enough for me!!

Exactly... brilliantly put... agree completly... especially Linger....

oh yeah... i would appreciate if the name Mariah Carey will not appear on my
screen anymore...
- --------------------------------------------------
 ".. and I looked so handsome,
  It was the light, it was the angle."
                     - Nicholas Cave
- --------------------------------------------------

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From: Greg Bensimon <greg@icscorp.com>
Subject: Chain Letters and Crap

Anyone else out there getting as pissed of as I am about the chain 
letters and get rich quick schemes that keep ending up here?  I mean, we 
spend so much time talk ing about things not SG related anyway, and then 
start bitching when we do, and now someone is sending out 450 copies of 
how some guy in Texas made a bazillion dollars because he forwarded the 
letter...

I think it's time to backward a letter.  What do you think?  Why doesn't 
everybody who got that piece of crap from sloth@fix.net forward five 
copies of the letter back to him?  For those of you with the skills to 
automate it, why not send him 500 copies?

I know this sounds bad, even hypocritical, considering that the first 
week I joined this list (the first time), I bawled out Seth for 
threatening to mail bomb someone who unsubscribed to somms@mit.edu.  But 
I'm getting really fed up.

Anyway, on to other things.  From what I gather, we've agreed on a design 
for the shirt and (I think) a color.  Have we agreed on what the shirt 
will say?  And have we agreed on whether the design will be on the front 
or the back?  I can't wait.  I need to break it in before Lolla.


Greg

  "Eventually, you do end up paying for all the free pizza
   and 25 cent pitchers"


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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: FINAL SHIRT STUFF!

GR>Anyway, on to other things.  From what I gather, we've agreed on a design 
GR>for the shirt and (I think) a color.  Have we agreed on what the shirt 
GR>will say?  And have we agreed on whether the design will be on the front 
GR>or the back?  I can't wait.  I need to break it in before Lolla.

As far as I know, we've decided on the design (the fork with Posting
with my good eye closed in maroon letters) and the color of the shirt
(natural, tan, off-white, whatever you call it) and there haven't been
any objections to having the design on the back and somms@mit.edu on
the front (where the pocket goes) in that little puncy plastic
lettering stuff.
I'm checking about prices today, so if I was wrong on any of the above
info, TELL ME NOW!  Because if you don't, that's how it will be, and we
won't be able to change it.  

CUT OFF DATE FOR ORDERING SHIRTS!!!

Just so I don't get confused in the near future, and since the money
will be sent in pretty soon (you can probably start tomorrow if
everything goes smoothly today) I am making a cut off date.  SO IF YOU
WANT A SHIRT AND YOU HAVEN'T ORDERED DO IT NOW!  Check on the list that
I already have, and if your name isn't there, SEND IT TO ME!  
APRIL 3 IS THE LAST DAY TO ORDER SHIRTS!  GET IT DONE BEFORE THAT!!!

                                                         Nothingman
 
    -I am not allowed to think.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: SHIRT ORDERS!  IMPORTANT!

Ok.  This is my list of everybody who ordered a shirt so far.  Check
the list, and make sure everything is correct.  Some people sent in
multiple orders (the same message twice) so make sure you aren't
included twice.  I think I took care of them, but double check.  If you
are included twice, you might be paying for more shirts than you
expected.  If there are any problems with this list, then email me with
corrections BEFORE APRIL 3.  And the cut-off date for orders is APRIL
3!  So if you haven't ordered a shirt yet, DO IT NOW!  
And (drum roll) the list:

[addresses deleted]

Just for the count, there are 68 people on this list.  There were a
little over 80 on Carolyn's list.  Maybe you just like her more.  But
anyway, check the list and make sure it's correct.  If not, you order
might be screwed up, and I know I don't want that.
 
                                                                 
Nothingman
 
    -So what she's prettier!

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From: BdMtrFngr <jgarci01@kepler.poly.edu>
Subject: Guitar Wanted

Hey whats going on everybody.  I know that there are a lot of guitar 
players on this list so i know that somebody, out of the 450 members, 
must have an extra guitar that they are selling.  From listening to 
soundgarden and other kickass bands so much, one really wants to start 
playing guitar for themself.  
Anyway, if anyone wants to sell a guitar(amp and all that other shit too)_ 
at a reasonable price , reply to me.  It doesn't matter where yu are from 
because i get fedex for real cheap.
Thank you


"F Jackie"-- KOAM
"Daddy din't raise no fuckin fool!" -- kyle petty, sung by CC

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From: "Jennifer L. York" <jyork@usibr01.usi.edu>
Subject: Re: So they DO get online sometimes...


> there are chances he could read that in the digest, and then he'll
> come in your dreams to pull your toes... he he he he he....
- -----------
hahahahahahahahah:)jennifer 

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From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com
Subject: ummmm... me

     Ok... called me paraniod, but if any of you Shroom haters out there are
planning on sending me any ticking packages after Nothingman so kindly posted
my address for all to see... please know that that address is not my own...
it's my parents.  I can't trust my roommate for shit with my mail, so all my
important stuff goes through my parents place.  Ummm.... I just don't wanna
find out that some psycho SG freak decided to mail me a bomb, and my parents
got chopped up 'cuz of it.  So if you would be ever so kind, please e-mail
me, and I will send you my apartment address... maybe a bomb will finally
cure my roomie from messing with my mail.  Thank yew and good night...
                             <kisskiss>
                                                   Shroom
 ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... ***  Chris Cornell

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From: "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: the day i had to laugh

I agree with you.  Chief Sealth is someone else.  IT is "NOT" the founder
of Seattle!  That was chief seattle!

On Thu, 28 Mar 1996, frogger wrote:

> > On Wed, 27 Mar 1996, Kate Mercier wrote:
> >
> > > okay, you guys got me laughing... mmmhmmm, Chief Sealth is a friend of
> > > the the bands.  I'm not laughing at the ignorance... it's totally
> > > understandable to anyone outside of the west coast native community (and
> > > Native American studies at school).  It's just the thought... it kills
> > > me.  I mean, what a mental picture.
>
> Hahahahahahahaha. If Chief Sealth is a friend of the band, that would make
> him over 140 years old.  I guess you don't own somms do you?  The letter
> is attributed to Chief Sealth 1852.  I'm not an expert on Washington
> state hitory, but did anyone notice that Sealth and Seattle share almost
> all of their letters?  In the letter posted by Chris,  Kim himself says the
> letter was written by the founder of Seattle.  Seattle = Sealth.  Look
> who's laughing now.
> 							-Geoff
>
>


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From: "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: T-shirt

You can't have t shirts where you live?  I don't understand?  Yet you can
afford a damn computer???????

On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, ROBIN wrote:

> Hi ! I'm a mexican girl and I really love the T-shirt idea but I don't know
> how can I have one, maybe is more difficult to get one because the place
> where I live.
> Thanks.
> Love is like suicide
> nmc.
>
>


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From: Butt Mike <mjs7@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: Re: Awesome Article!!! Read or die slowly and painfully!!!


On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Carolyn wrote:
> 
> Chris, I just read it while munching on my vegemite sandwich for lunch, and
> enjoyed it.  Thanks so much for typing that sucker!!


Hey Carolyn, Matthew here.  You know that I would normally ask you a 
question like this personally, but I have a feeling that others out there 
would like to know also.  What exactly is vegemite, and what is in the 
infamous sandwich. Fair Dinnkum! (I guess)  


                                Matthew.
       

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From: MAYOR McCHEESE <beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu>
Subject: READ THIS

- ---------- Forwarded message ----------

Date: Thu, 05 Oct 1995 13:24:10 EDT       <<I joined That Long AGO!?!?!?

2.  ALL SUBSCRIBE AND UNSUBSCRIBE REQUESTS SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO SAPERL@MIT.EDU

3.  This list is unmoderated; anything you send to somms@mit.edu will
    automatically be sent to everyone on the list.  Because of this, I
    ask that you refrain from posting things like "Make $50,000 in a
    month!" and other messages that have absolutely nothing to do with
    Soundgarden.

Keep in mind that the last Soundgarden list that was started only
lasted ONE article and then died.  Please don't let that happen.

(Don't worry about that seth!!!!!!!!!!)

		Making $50,000 in a month,
				McCheese placing tiny classified ads 

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes.

**By receiving this letter you can join the OFFICIAL MAYOR McCHEESE 
SOUNDGARDEN CAMPING EXTRAVAGANZA in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota now by 
replying to this letter with thesubject:  CAMPING TRIP!  Or type
f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!***



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From: "Jennifer L. York" <jyork@usibr01.usi.edu>
Subject: get rich quick..(kidding))

I asked this question a long time ago, but I never got a reply.
Also I'm bored and I wanted to post something. I also have to pee but I'm 
too lazy to walk down the hall to the bathroom, so I'm keeping myself 
preoccupied :) anyway........

Did anyone see soundgarden on "Bill Nye the Science Guy" last year? 
The topic was "sound" [thus, sg (hmmm)] and they were playing the vocals to 
kickstand. Well, actually they were messing around with the sound board 
and stuff, but the vocals- only track just stood out, because it was so cool.

jennifer




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From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com
Subject: Re: T-shirt and chain letter

     I believe the woman was implying that because of her location, delivery
of a shirt may be something of a problem.  She wants to know how to go about
ordering one.  Now... was that really so hard?
     And about the stupid chain letters... I think we get the point, people.
 Is there really a need to send a copy of everyone flaming that guy to the
list?  I think not.  <kisskiss>
                                           Shroom

>You can't have t shirts where you live?  I don't understand?  Yet you can
>afford a damn computer???????
>
>On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, ROBIN wrote:
>
>> Hi ! I'm a mexican girl and I really love the T-shirt idea but I don't
know
>> how can I have one, maybe is more difficult to get one because the place
>> where I live.
>> Thanks.
>> Love is like suicide
>> nmc.



------------------------------

Subject: Re: get rich quick..(kidding))
From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson)

>I asked this question a long time ago, but I never got a reply.
>Also I'm bored and I wanted to post something. I also have to pee but I'm 
>too lazy to walk down the hall to the bathroom, so I'm keeping myself 
>preoccupied :) anyway........
>
>Did anyone see soundgarden on "Bill Nye the Science Guy" last year? 
>The topic was "sound" [thus, sg (hmmm)] and they were playing the vocals to 
>kickstand. Well, actually they were messing around with the sound board 
>and stuff, but the vocals- only track just stood out, because it was so cool.

Jen,

First, go to the bathroom, you mess the floor, you clean it....  Yes I have
seen the Nye show with kickstand.  I have also seen a video he did with the
music from "Spoonman".  He used 4 kids who resembled the band and changed the
words to fit an educational subject.   Only saw the last few seconds (I was
channel surfing), and I haven't seen it since.  

Jamie  


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From: Gonzo <jgg@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Re:Jason Everman

        My take on Jason Everman.I know he was in Nirvana durnig the
beginning of the Bleach era.And then he joined Soundgarden ,where he got
booted out.In my opinion the guy play his instrument well enough to get into
both of these bands.So,I have to concluded he was kicked out because his
personality did'nt fit in with the bands Chemistry.Chemistry is a one  part
of what makes a bands success.Without that a band no matter how talented it
is,will not last.IMHO.
GonZo 
Jaime Gonzalez
Computer Repair Technician	
Engineering Services	
Michigan State University	
505 Computer Center	
353-5266	
JGG@pilot.msu.edu
FAX:517/3536506


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From: Nate Crosswhite <nate@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Re: the day i had to laugh

At 10:17 AM 3/29/96 -0800, you wrote:
>I agree with you.  Chief Sealth is someone else.  IT is "NOT" the founder
>of Seattle!  That was chief seattle!
>
>

You are right, Chief Sealth wasn't the founder of Seattle.  The city was
named for him, though.  There are several unverified stories about how
the name went from Sealth to Seattle.  One is that according to Pacific
Northwest Indian beliefs, the dead cannot rest peacefully if their name
is spoken, so out of respect they altered the name (I'm not saying this
was actually their belief, that's just what I heard).  Another story is that
the white men couldn't pronounce his name properly, so it was translated
(transcripted?) incorrectly "Seattle", instead of the more accurate "Sealth".
Eh, take it all with a grain of salt, but Seattle was definetly named for
the man one way or another.

Nate Crosswhite


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From: "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: get rich quick..(kidding))

That is more info than we wanted you to share with us...





On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, Jennifer L. York wrote:

>
> I asked this question a long time ago, but I never got a reply.
> Also I'm bored and I wanted to post something. I also have to pee but I'm
> too lazy to walk down the hall to the bathroom, so I'm keeping myself
> preoccupied :) anyway........
>
> Did anyone see soundgarden on "Bill Nye the Science Guy" last year?
> The topic was "sound" [thus, sg (hmmm)] and they were playing the vocals to
> kickstand. Well, actually they were messing around with the sound board
> and stuff, but the vocals- only track just stood out, because it was so cool.
>
> jennifer
>
>
>
>


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From: "D. Pellor" <dpellor@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: T-shirt and chain letter

Well i am glad that we have some intelligent person on this list to
explain the difficult things to us mentally challenged folks.

On Fri, 29 Mar 1996 ShRooMGrLz@aol.com wrote:

>      I believe the woman was implying that because of her location, delivery
> of a shirt may be something of a problem.  She wants to know how to go about
> ordering one.  Now... was that really so hard?
>      And about the stupid chain letters... I think we get the point, people.
>  Is there really a need to send a copy of everyone flaming that guy to the
> list?  I think not.  <kisskiss>
>                                            Shroom
>
> >You can't have t shirts where you live?  I don't understand?  Yet you can
> >afford a damn computer???????
> >
> >On Fri, 29 Mar 1996, ROBIN wrote:
> >
> >> Hi ! I'm a mexican girl and I really love the T-shirt idea but I don't
> know
> >> how can I have one, maybe is more difficult to get one because the place
> >> where I live.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Love is like suicide
> >> nmc.
>
>
>


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From: "Jennifer L. York" <jyork@usibr01.usi.edu>
Subject: Re: get rich quick..(kidding))


> That is more info than we wanted you to share with us...
> 
> 
Okay I take it back :) geez, Uma!
That reminds me of pulp fiction. You know, I started this reply and 
realized that I have nothing to say.....I've got Nothing to Say (hehehe)
Oh god. 
see ya jenn

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