From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 24 Mar 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 02:29:13 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 24 Mar 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: from iMusic's daily news Son of Dick new album Re: Son of Dick Re: This silly "Matt Cameron" mystery... Re: Tours Re: It is really me Re: throwing in my two cents Re: like stuff Re: Can't we all just get along? Re: mindless comments Re: from iMusic's daily news Breaking up is hard to do ... Shroom speaks out... Re: EVEN MORE POETRY FROM SLOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Re: Breaking up is hard to do ... 'leaving here' and other stuff Re: Breaking up is hard to do ... Wellwater Conspiracy single #3 What's on the Turn Table or CD Platter Re: from iMusic's daily news Re: Seemed to greet me with a smile... Re: sg Re: What's on the Turn Table or CD Platter What's on the Turn Table or CD Platter Breaking up is hard to do ... re: "All Your Lies' lyrics Various shhhhh-tuff. Re: Can't we all just get along? Re: Breaking up is hard to do ... re: "All Your Lies' lyrics Re: What's on the Turn Table or CD Platter Re: MTV & Headbangers' Ball ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: from iMusic's daily news From: seth SOUNDGARDEN'S THAYIL JAMS WITH YOKO - by Bob Scheu Guitarist Adds Spice to Stunning Set In a move that brought the capacity crowd to the brink of frenzy, Soundgarden guitarist Kim Thayil shared the stage at Seattle Crocodile Cafi with Yoko Ono and Sean Lennon. Thayil jammed with guitarist Sean Lennon for one tune, and Lennon was entirely up to the chore. Lennon and his band, IMA were tight and expert. Lennon is so good that he will no doubt offer further fuel for the nature vs. nuture debate. Is he great because of John's genetic influence, because of Yoko's? Sort of silly, isn't it? IMA was also joined on keyboards by Seattle scenester Scott McCaughey of Young Fresh Fellows and lately of R.E.M. ------------------------------ From: Tony Buonvino Subject: Son of Dick What's up?! Well I sit here in the wee hours of the night after I've decided that = I'm bored enough to try to change a few things :) on my computer... I = can't wait till I screw it up so I can't turn it on! Oh well, so far, = so good... But I think I've finally got my equal signs problem under = control (thanks to seth for telling me what it was) so this is a test = post for me... But none of you probably care about this SOOO... I = thought I'd throw a question out to you all... I recently started listening to Kyle Petty quite a bit (after reading = the raves of it on this list, I pulled it out of my modest SG = collection)... I was wondering what the meaning is? I gather that it = might be about a son who's having trouble following in his father's = footsteps (like becoming an alcoholic) and it kind of goes into his = mentality ("Daddy told me don't you take no fuckin' shit) and him trying = to be his own self ("So get it right", as in make sure no one calls him = Richard)... This would kind of explain the name... But maybe I just = need to lay off the pipe, what do you guys think? Well I'll shut up now, later... T-Bone ------------------------------ From: Michael Kitzman Subject: new album Can anyone confirm that the new album will be called "Down on the Upside" Does anyone know the first single? Mike "The safe bed is on your knees, bow your head to the trinity." ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: Son of Dick Kyle Petty is a NASCAR racer, and happens to be the son of Richard Petty, who is a NASCAR legend. He still holds records on some tracks. So you are right on the mark, but now you have the context...'don't you take no fuckin' shit!'... >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Sat, 23 Mar 1996, Tony Buonvino wrote: > What's up?! > > Well I sit here in the wee hours of the night after I've decided that I'm bored enough to try to change a few things :) on my computer... I can't wait till I screw it up so I can't turn it on! Oh well, so far, so good... But I think I've finally got my equal signs problem under control (thanks to seth for telling me what it was) so this is a test post for me... But none of you probably care about this SOOO... I thought I'd throw a question out to you all... > > I recently started listening to Kyle Petty quite a bit (after reading the raves of it on this list, I pulled it out of my modest SG collection)... I was wondering what the meaning is? I gather that it might be about a son who's having trouble followin g in his father's footsteps (like becoming an alcoholic) and it kind of goes into his mentality ("Daddy told me don't you take no fuckin' shit) and him trying to be his own self ("So get it right", as in make sure no one calls him Richard)... This would kind of explain the name... But maybe I just need to lay off the pipe, what do you guys think? > > Well I'll shut up now, later... > T-Bone > ------------------------------ From: jk99@cityscape.co.uk (Chris Lawrence) Subject: Re: This silly "Matt Cameron" mystery... > >Hey folks... > >I don't know how anyone could be fooled. There are a couple of things >which make it evident that it's fake. > >1) it's UK server...why the bloody hell would Matt be on a UK server??? Errr... I didn't think of that. :( > >2) The address is the same as our good friend Matthew Lawrence's. > (mattlaw@cogs.susx.ac.uk) This shows up on my screen, with a little >note "Reply to: Matt@SG.com"...so some may be decieved by that. *shrug* Oh well, I fucked up, but I didn't mail Seth. > >Ah well, if anyone was in question of this, you shouldn't be now. Mr. >Cameron isn't on this mailing list. Not necessarily, I for one don't know who mailed Seth in the first place, I was just trying to play a trick. Sorry I'm so late, but I've been having connection problems.. Matt ------------------------------ From: jk99@cityscape.co.uk (Chris Lawrence) Subject: Re: Tours >> >> >> >> On Fri, 15 Mar 1996, Matthew Lawrence wrote: >> >> > > > >& seeing as the tour would be in Britain >> > > > > Manic Street Preachers >> > > > ........NOOOO....TERRORVISION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> > Hey, What about Reef? >> > >> > Matt >> > >> I've a better idea >> One tour for the likes of SG and FNM and then a second tour for purely >> British bands: Terrorvision >> Manics >> Reef >> Cast > >Why stop there? Combine the 2 in the same tour.. Each show would last a whole >night.. You could follow it around by train so that you could sleep in the day >and mosh in the night.. That would be bliss!! :) > > Matt > Oops.. Fucked this one up aswell.. I don't believe I leftmy name like that :( Matt > ------------------------------ From: jk99@cityscape.co.uk (Chris Lawrence) Subject: Re: It is really me > >Mail addresses are not that hard to change. > >Matthew (Cameron). > > I know, but I forgot to change the header properly :( Yes, I know I suck.. Matt > > ------------------------------ From: jk99@cityscape.co.uk (Chris Lawrence) Subject: Re: throwing in my two cents >ok, well I think that ... well I don't know what to think of Saturday >Night Live, but I've given it a lil bit of thought, and I can't really >see Soundgarden on NBC :> Or CNN for that matter, but from what I've >heard, when Superunknown came out, they were on CNN.. A bit of tangent-style trivia.. I heard somewhere that it made newsweek when Chris Cornell cut his hair... Front page, I think.... Can anyone verify this? Matt ------------------------------ From: jk99@cityscape.co.uk (Chris Lawrence) Subject: Re: like stuff >Hi, new to group. >First of all, whats with all the sex talk and drolling over Chris >Cornell. The real sex symbol of the group is obivously Ben Shepherd. >Ben rules. When I saw Soundgarden at Wings Stadium, Ben was hilarious. >He kept gesturing to a female in the front roll to take off her top. >Whoever said Soundgarden didnt like groupies? Actually, on my bootleg of SG's Brixton show, the first thing Chris says seems to be "TITS OUT!!" I wasn't sure at first because the quality wasn't that good, but I'm pretty sure that's what it is.. Maybe someone else can verify this.. Has anyone got this boot? My interpretation is that it's a huge pisstake, as so many things seem to be where SG are concerned.. I read an article in one of the shittier magazines in England (Metal Hammer?) where either Chris or Kim was saying "We are the sort of band that girls get their tits out for" I thought that was hilarious.. Matt ------------------------------ From: jk99@cityscape.co.uk (Chris Lawrence) Subject: Re: Can't we all just get along? >In a message dated 96-03-21 20:09:38 EST, you write: > >>What's your >>favorite Soundgarden moment? It can be at a show, on TV, in a song, in >>an interview, anything. Mine is probably when I saw them in Rochester, >>and Chris lifted up his shirt and screamed "SHOW US YOUR TITS. MALES >>ONLY PLEASE." Hehe :> Course, when he ran down the bowling lane on >>Headbangers Ball and kicked the pins down with his feet, that was cool >>too. Ok, well I'm gonan shut up now. >>foreshocks > >My favorite soundgarden moment is probably when they were bowling during >Headbangers Ball. I like the whole show but the best part is when chris is >jumping around behind Riki Rachtman and he keeps ducking down and poking his >head up on the side of Riki. It's too great. Ok I just thought I'd mention >that. > GOD! That sounds too cool for words, if we poor deprived brits EVER saw anything like that on TV..... Well put it this way, when we got Pearl Jam unplugged I nearly shit myself ;) This must be the umteenth time I've posted to complain about this, but it really gets to me, you know.. Reading all these posts about overexposure and then thinking about the last time I saw Soundgarden on TV (1994?) Is there any good reason anyone can think of why we have nothing at all cool on TV here? Matt :( ------------------------------ From: jk99@cityscape.co.uk (Chris Lawrence) Subject: Re: mindless comments >SH> Okokok... don't get your panties all in a wad people. I'm going to cal >SH>down my CC posts. They won't be so graphic anymore. But I'm not going to >SH>stop altogether, sorry. >SH> I write what I feel, not what I feel people want me to write. I'm not >SH>politically or socially correct. So shoot me. > >Bang. It's ok, I'm not, too. But I annoy people with these kind of >messages, which they think I should send just to you, but I send them >to the list anyway, just because, and I end up sending 8bazillion >messages and annoy the hell outta people. Oh well, it's the way I am, >get used to it. > IMHO, political correctness does more harm than it cures. Good for you for not being politically correct, PC is just a way of brushing all the important issues under the carpet, names are just labels, their meanings are acquired, not defined immediately. Say what you think, everybody, don't let yourselves get caught up in this shit!! OK I think I've said enough now, time to shut up. Matt ------------------------------ From: the Kimmenator Subject: Re: from iMusic's daily news > SOUNDGARDEN'S THAYIL JAMS WITH YOKO hey uh, sethman, wasn't this just in the weekly world news like two days ago? ahem...seriously...of all the things to see when i first login to work in the morning...i swear to Chris, i never laughed so hard in my whole damned life...heh...what i wouldn't give to have a videotape of that shindig. ok, so i need more coffee... laterall. kiM =--= Losing myself in a white trash hell... kiM, the Kimmenator, that freak with the palid boots and mountain bikes kab004@acad.drake.edu -or- kab004@dunix.drake.edu ------------------------------ From: Greg.Fox@gulf.csc.UVic.CA (gfox@csc.uvic.ca) Subject: Breaking up is hard to do ... I started thinking about this the other day when I heard a Rolling Stones song on the radio. Ever wonder how Soundgarden is going to end their career? I mean, are they going to continue on like RS until everyone is sick of them (not that many of us will get sick of them). Can you imagine Kim, Chris, Ben and Matt, sitting in wheelchairs, old and decrepit (sp?), playing Big Dumb Sex? That would be kind of funny, but unrealistic. What do you think will lead to the demise of SG? I can't see them breaking up. I don't want to see one of them die (like Kurt). I dunno. It just seems kind of weird. I don't want them to stop creating music, but I don't want them to become like RS. I am babbling now, so I am off. Greg _________________________________________________ /Greg Fox | So many monsters in me \ |gfox@csc.uvic.ca | Have left me half hunched | |www.engr.uvic.ca/~gfox| and human struggling | \_____________________| - Fine Tooth Combine | That damn polyphasic \ www.islandnet.com/~combine / frog rototillered my \__________________________/ beets again! ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Shroom speaks out... Ok... it's like 6am... I just got home, checked my e-mail... and now I have to respond to all this crap. Here it is people... Shroom... SB (super-bitch). Aww... you'll get over it. >i know that wasn't warrented , but was the reply that shroom sent to the >whole list? I dont know bout that one Listen up, bub. When someone sends a letter to everyone on the list, accusing me of certain things, and making futile attempts at embarassing or ridiculing me... then I'm going to have to repy... TO THE WHOLE LIST. >So, anyway, just because you're hot for someone doesn't mean you can't like >them for other reasons too. I also think Chris is a really together person >and is very "real" unlike alot of other "rock stars". Agreed. Completely, unconditionally, and whole-heartedly. >If that sort of topic does it for you, then we are obviously operating on >very different wavelengths. I signed up to talk about the band, not to see >a thread about tongue-kissing and sex noises turn into the flaming of one >of my fellow Australian list members. I believe that the delete button has already been mentioned a few times? As to Carolyn... I have already apologized to the woman, okay? There's nothing more I can do. There's nothing more I would do, anyway. It's not like I ran over anyone's dog on purpose, or anything. BTW... can we avoid classifying people as American, or Australian, or Martian, or whatever? How about just human? I didn't single out Carolyn just because she lives in Australia. I was merely responding to a letter she posted. If she can post her opinions, then I can too. Fair enough? >I have listen to this sexual line of talk for several weeks now. I kept hoping >against hope that it would just die. But no such luck. I have not post on it >for a personal reason. But I won't stand by any longer and watch something >that is so good be made to look bad, because a few people can't control >themselves. Okokok... wake up people!! I HAVE ALREADY AGREED TOO MANY TIMES TO CALM DOWN THE CC POSTS!!!!! This is unfuckingbelievable... do you people have nothing better to do than to bitch and bitch and bitch constantly about something that has already been settled? Oh man... and my thread of CC posts got old quick? Well guess what people? Your posts aren't exactly spring time fresh. >if you were truly interested in soundgarden shroomgirl, then you >might start talking about them as a *band*, and not as chris the sexual >entity. try talking about what songs you like instead of dreaming about >dave navarro tongue kissing chris. I don't want to start a flame war on >the list, but be sure that most of us are more interested in >soundgarden's music than their collective butt. You people need to start paying attention to who posts "normal" things, as well as the twisted ones. I have posted about MANY normal things. I have discussed the lyrics... I have discussed which songs I like best... you people just don't pay attention, unless it's something out of the ordinary. Get yer heads out of yer... never mind... it's like talking to a brick wall... >Did you get some mail from Seth the rest of us didn't? >Mail in which you were told you could not post about anything but the music? >I thought not. This list is about Soundgarden-people can post anything they >want about Soundgarden. If it's about them it's on topic. If you don't want >to read it, don't. Last I heard, Seth was the one who decides what goes in >the digest or not. Those of you who have been complaining, you are not the >ones in control, so stop the whining. We have something called the first >amendment, remember? Someone said that the list was for the discussion of >Soundgarden's music, nothing else. Really? I don't remember Seth saying that. >Refresh my memory- perhaps it was so long ago, it just slipped my mind. Yeah, >right. I know damn well there is no such rule. Very well said... and thanks Heather. And thanks for backing it up NM. C'mon people... calm the fuck down. I've already apologized and agreed to stuff just out of respect to those members who were offended. Now get over it. >we've all seen this argument before: 'if you don't like what I >talk about, then just use the d button'. this is a dumb solution to a >annoying problem. You mean a useful solution, but one that you won't consider because it's not conveeeeenient for you. My advice: get over it. Just delete all my posts before you read them. I only post once or twice a day. It's not like it's that difficult. >it is true that this is a soundgarden list. but it was designed >with the intention of discussing soundgarden *music*. I'm sure seth >didn't envision a stupid and too-long thread developing over what chris >cornell might sound like when he's doin' the deed when he decided to >create this list. Please clue me in, people... when did the name of this mailing list change from "The SG mailing list" to "The SG music mailing list"? I'm sure Seth didn't know exactly WHAT was going to happen on the list when he created it. Seth... a million+ apologies if I've said anything to offend you. I really don't want to drag Seth into this, but he hasn't forbade or even admonished me from saying a damn thing. Please, Seth... if I'm doing something wrong... let me know. Even though I've ALREADY apologized and made amends with the people who freaked originally over this. So... here's some more Shroom advice people... DON'T GET YOUR FUCKING PANTIES ALL IN A WAD OVER SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SETTLED!! Don't try to change me and my thoughts on SG. Don't make accusations towards me, unless you want to get everyone on the list riled up again, because like I said before, if someone tries to make me look the fool, I'm going to defend myself. Especially if it's in front of the list. If you find it necessary to question my morals or opinions... feel free to mail me directly. That way the list will return to it's quiet, unassuming self. Or rather, it can be turned over to the excitement of the upcoming album and tour. Ok? Ok! I'm going to pass out now. Thank yew and good night... Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: Butt Mike Subject: Re: EVEN MORE POETRY FROM SLOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!! > > SOUND> > > noise reverberates off the walls, > The shrill voice is drowned out, > by incessant feedback. > Every band starts somewhere. > > With a name like noise and plants combined, > How could this Seattle band be found? > With dreams in their lives > And hearts aflame with musical hopes. > > Then one day they struck a deal, > Subpop records filled the hole. > Thier album went well unknown, > But for now they at least had thier music. > > Next a man from A&M heard them play, > He thought they were great. > He signed them up with a deal, > to make albums for real. > > The band began to record thier songs, > Played guitars and smoked thier bongs. > Thier first A&M album sold a little more, > than thier last attempt. > > Not enough to please the band, > They set off to tour the land. > They generated revenue, > and made many people fans. > > Their second album went huge, > All the waiting paid off, > Badmotorfinger was it's name, > And it was dubbed a fortune. > > With the band at it's peak, > They decided to break from the underground, > Into the SUPERUNKNOWN. > With hits like Limo and Black hole Sun > How could they go wrong. > > This is the band I'll always love, > Untill the downfall of thier reign. > I'll stand by these men, > These men of SOUNDGARDEN, > Untill the world ends > Ummmmmmmmmmmm, whatever. ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: Breaking up is hard to do ... My guess is they'll end more like the Who. They'll go for a long time, and eventually they'll get bored and decide it's time to give it up. They probably won't throw a huge going away party like the Who's Farewell Tour, but I think the'll run a similar course. Sounds pretty anticlimactic, but it doesn't look like Chris is going to blow his brains out (a la Kurt Cobain) or Matt's going to drink himself to death like John Bonham. And they seem to be a whole lot more cohesive than the Eagles. Maybe they'll decide that what they really want is to be a country-western band :-) Anyway, I can't see them playing something like Big Dumb Sex at age 60 either. Imagine JCP... Chris: It wouldn't pain me more to bury you rich, than to bury you poor! Poooooooooooo-uh-cough-cough-hack-wheeze... Greg ***************************************** *** Only fools, liars, and charlatans *** *** predict the weather. *** ***************************************** *** Greg Bensimon *** ***************************************** On Sat, 23 Mar 1996 Greg.Fox@gulf.csc.UVic.CA wrote: > Ever wonder how Soundgarden is going to end their career? I mean, are they > going to continue on like RS until everyone is sick of them (not that many > of us will get sick of them). Can you imagine Kim, Chris, Ben and Matt, > sitting in wheelchairs, old and decrepit (sp?), playing Big Dumb Sex? That > would be kind of funny, but unrealistic. ------------------------------ From: Caryn Rose Subject: 'leaving here' and other stuff in response to the question, 'leaving here' is an old motown song written by holland/dozier/holland, i'm not sure who did it originally, but pearl jam covered it because the first incarnation of the Who (called the High Numbers) covered it. PJ's version is closer to the original than the who's version imo. if you're interested in hearing the who's version of it, the only place you can get it easily is the maximum r&b box set. and at this point, i'm about to join shroom in the cc discussion just to piss off the uptight control freaks on this list. ;> - --caryn ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Re: Breaking up is hard to do ... Soundgarden break up? What? Are you people INSANE? Are you MAD?!?!? Soundgarden will NEVER break up!!!! Umm... well, maybe they will, but I kinda think (call it Shroom intuition, if you wish) but what's going to happen is that one (or more) of the band members will kick the bucket first. Sorry... but every time I think of SG ending, I think of that freaky dream I had a month or two ago. Remember people??!!??? One of the NORMAL posts I sent in? Think hard... the one where I was watching the MTV news, and Kurt Loder announced that Chris and Matt had died in a head on collision with a truck? Yah, well... that's how I think it's going to happen. Depressing, huh? But I can't really see Chris up on stage when he's like a hundred and twenty, like Mick Jagger... running around without a shirt so all of us old women can clutch our sagging breasts and scream and freak out over his ancient sexiness. Don't get me wrong people, I'll always love SG, UNLESS they turn into a country western band. I can't stomach CW.. Make's me wanna spew. But wait... maybe they'll turn into some kind of cool rockabilly group, like the Rev Horton Heat or the Cramps or something. Ok... guess I've babbled enough for now. Oh wow... was this another NORMAL post I sent in? Gee... how 'bout that? Shroom PS... when I was a kid, Cyndi Lauper was my idol. Hey NM... I love ice tea, too. ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Wellwater Conspiracy single #3 I got the 3rd Wellwater 7". Its hilarious, ben Shepherd sings in Vietnamese (I think, its an oriental language with French influence.) It sounds like an oriental sixties band. Its a slightly different style than the other 2 7"s. ------------------------------ From: Bryan Alan Blumklotz Subject: What's on the Turn Table or CD Platter To All>>> I know this is the SG list but there are only so many things we can say or debate about a limited number of albums. Besides I have other musical interests outside the boys from Seattle. So, what else is in rotation at your Music Player of choice... NOTE: I am not soliciting commentary about other bands but rather a snap shot of what others are litstening to while we wait for the new album... I am always on the look out for new groups and styles to check out. I am a Musical Omnivore. Here are my three "Heavy Rotation Choices": 1) Afro-Peruvian Classics "The Soul Of Black Peru" -A Christmas present from my brother to fill my World Music jones. Kick ass latin/afro acustic pop from some of the unknown greats of Peru. Does have a track from a David Byrne, late of the Talking Heads. 2) Cowboy Junkies "Lay It Down" -Mellow Rock Bliss. Damn! Margo's voice knocks me out. 3) Everclear "Sparkle and Fade" -Local Boys make good. Love this album. Especially track 3 "You Make Me Feel Like A Whore". Two new albums that are in the "Checkin' Them Out Hard Phase": 1) The Spinanes "Strand" -Local Girl and Boy make good. Like it, but bears repeated listening for before it becomes one of my Heavies. 2) Spain "The Blue Moods Of Spain" -Heard a track on the local "Alternate" station and had to check these 4 guys out. So far nothing disapoints. Anyway, that is what floating my musical boat right now... I have to say my favorite SG album to date is Superunknown. I really liked Badmoter Finger, but it is miles away from the musical maturity of their last, IMHO. Unfortunately, I really overplayed Superunknown (if it had been record rather than a CD, I would have plowed through 2 or 3 of them from wear and tear) and it has languished for awhile. I am sure that it will once again find it's way back into my good graces. In (Choice) Service, Saracen AKA Bryan (Generic Soundgarden Lyric Here) -Soundgarden ------------------------------ Subject: Re: from iMusic's daily news From: seth > > SOUNDGARDEN'S THAYIL JAMS WITH YOKO > hey uh, sethman, wasn't this just in the weekly world news like two days ago? > ahem...seriously...of all the things to see when i first login to work > in the morning...i swear to Chris, i never laughed so hard in my whole > damned life...heh...what i wouldn't give to have a videotape of that shindig. > ok, so i need more coffee... Ladies and gentlemen, Kim Bayley, the original SG Web page co-conspirator! seth ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Re: Seemed to greet me with a smile... >My question is: What should I >get next? I think older Soundgarden stuff is a little different so I want >to know what I would probably appreciate most in light of the fact that the >majority of what I've heard is their recent material. Any suggestions? I'd have to say, get Louder than Love first, then Ultramega OK, then Screaming Life/Fopp. Of course they're all equally incredible, but that's just my order of preference. >this. I wonder if there is one for Pearl Jam fans (I'm a big Pearl Jam fan >as well). Anyone know? Thanks again. Send a message to: majordomo@evansville.edu body of your email message: subscribe release Vasant ****************************************************************************** The Refuge of the Damned http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html Lots of music, photos, links, and more! vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Re: sg >Is there an offical release date for the new album May 21. Vasant ****************************************************************************** The Refuge of the Damned http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html Lots of music, photos, links, and more! vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins **************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: What's on the Turn Table or CD Platter > 3) Everclear "Sparkle and Fade" > > -Local Boys make good. Love this album. Especially track 3 > "You Make Me Feel Like A Whore". > Yes, yes, yes! Finally, someone recognizes a good song by them that ISN't on MTV all the time. I think that song is great.... In my CD player? Here goes... Right now: 1)Led Zeppelin (untitled) 2) SG-BMF 3)Filter (short bus) In the rotation: Bush-16 Stone AIC-AIC Tom Petty-Wildflowers Gregg _________________________________________ | | "Don't come over here and piss on my | Check out my *NEW* homepages! | gate. Save it just keep it off My | Goto: http://www.cybercomm.net/~melusk2 | Wave"--Soundgarden | | |____________melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net___| "It's a shame when a contest of talent is turned into a popularity contest, and the best act doesn't win....so much for integrity, justice and all that bullshit." ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: What's on the Turn Table or CD Platter SA>So, what else is in SA>rotation at your Music Player of choice... SA>I am always on the look out for new groups and styles to check SA>out. I am a Musical Omnivore. Alrighty...some bands I listen to a lot, other than Soundgarden. -Savatage "Streets: A Rock Opera" "Edge of Thorns" "Handful of Rain" These guys write great lyrics. Streets is a great album, and the singer sings his heart out. On Edge of Thorns, there's a new singer, who just happens to be a pretty freakin' awesome vocalist. Then some drunk guy decided to smash into the guitar player (who just happened to be pretty damn good, and who wrote some damn fine music) and kill him. So Alex Skolnick, from Testament, joined them and did a damn fine job on Handful of Rain. These are great depressing albums. -King Missile "Happy Hour" "King Missile" John S. Hall rules! He's funny as hell, and he writes some pretty good, and weird, music. I want more King Missile stuff, but I can't find any here in Hickville. -Candlebox "Candlebox" I love Candlebox. Don't You rules. Sounds a bit like Soundgarden too (Don't You, anyway). -Pearl Jam "Ten" Two words. Black rules. Seven more words. So does the rest of the album. -They Might Be Giants I love everything by TMBG. They write great lyrics, that at a glance seem to be just nonsense stuff, but after a few hundred listens, they start to make sense. They make you think too...sometimes. -Twisted Willie This is great. I love Willie's lyrics, and the bands that do the songs did a great job. Jerry Cantrell did a great job on I've Seen All This World I Care To See. And even though I can't stand country music, I like the songs Waylon Jennings and Johnny Cash (and Kim helped, too) did, too. Other bands I listen to a whole lot: Primus Alice in Chains Faster Pussycat Wolfhounds Black Crowes (I LOVE Shake Your Moneymaker) James Rage Against the Machine (I think it's about time for a new one) Ok, I think I went overboard, but I couldn't stop. I've been waiting to glorify Savatage for a while now. If anyone wants more info on any of these bands, I can probably help. Nothingman -Wash your women in your whiskeywhen your future's in the past, And you're staring up to Heaven from the bottom of a glass, And you need some insulation from the years you've had and lost, And you feel the persperation as you're adding up the cost. -Savatage ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Breaking up is hard to do ... GR>Ever wonder how Soundgarden is going to end their career? If they ever retire, I hope they decides it sucks, like Ozzy did. GR>going to continue on like RS until everyone is sick of them (not that many GR>of us will get sick of them). I wouldn't get sick of them, but I hope they don't start rehashing the same stuff for years to come. Like Aerosmith, I mean. Chris once said that he hopes they make music for a long time, but he doesn't want to see them turn into an Aerosmith, where, at forty, they play the same thing they played when they were ninteen. I would hate to see that, too. But it would be cool to see them play Jesus Christ Pose when they're 80. I'll bet Matt would slow it down...just a bit. GR>What do you think will lead to the demise of SG? I doubt they would break up, although Chris did say that sooner or later, he'll probably do a solo album. I would LOVE that...as would Shroom, right? ;) GR>I don't want to see one of them die (like Kurt). Chris said that he would never do a thing like that. People used to wonder who would go first...between Eddie and Kurt. It never seemed to me that Eddie would do something like that...not that I know him, but he just doesn't seem like he would (I'm going by the music, here). Eddie isn't as big into drugs as Kurt was...at least that's the impression I got. And Chris seems to be the least likely to kill himself. I mean, there are some songs, but I think he'd think about his fans before he'd ever do that. I doubt he would disappoint us by putting a hole in his noggin. GR> I dunno. It just seems kind of weird. I can't imagine the day they stop making music. It's their lives. Why would they give it up? They might stop touring, because that has to be hard, but they'll probably keep recording until it's no longer possible, I'm sure...at least I hope. Nothingman -Silk underwear gives me a woody. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: re: "All Your Lies' lyrics UN>then again "I'm tightrope walking a 2 ton shoe" isn't all that senseable. You know, that's really "tightrope walking in two tons shoes" but I think you knew that. That's one of my favorite lines. In fact, it's my screen saver. I feel like I'm tightrope walking in two tons shoes quite often. But I think it's because my feet are so damn big. Nothingman -And then I look inside and pray that I don't care. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Various shhhhh-tuff. > If you are reading this text, then your mail reader does not support > the MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) standard. To take > full advantage of the features of this message, you need to upgrade > your mailer to a MIME V1.0 compliant package. Some parts of this > message may be in human readable form. - --zzzz24c4420789b6gcc.cc.md.uszzzz Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WX>>Here are my three "Heavy Rotation Choices": WX>This sounds fun. Here are my picks: WX>1) Superunknown, Badmotorfinger--I just recently joined the list, and WX>reading what you all have to say has whipped me into a Soundgarden frenzy WX>(just ask my roommate!) Badmotorfinger has been in my CD player for quite a while now. I love Rusty Cage and JCP and Mind Riot. If anyone has a tab for Mind Riot, I would love it. I haven't been able to find one yet...except in that book, but I'm not paying $20 for a book when I have tabs for every song but Mind Riot. WX>I guess I'm just really into that Seattle sound (Pearl Jam, SG, AIC, STP). Uh-oh. I feel a flame coming on for that STP one. Not from me, though...I knew what you meant. :) WX>stuff out on my guitar. Anyone happen to know what chords those are at WX>beginning of Fell On Black Days? Well, I guess I'll just send the tab, since I don't remember. WX>Do they have the actual video for Spoonman on the CD? Nope. Just Artis. Too bad, though...I've only seen it twice. WX>live version of Kickstand. I can;'t get over how much I love this. I just love it. I could watch it all day. WX>I'm just wondering if there's some other stuff on there that WX>I haven't found yet. Did you find the Pong game? It's lame, but it's just one of those things you have to find. And you can open the individual files (without running the whole CD+ thing) and listen to some songs that youd hear in the photo gallery. I think we might hear some of this stuff on the new album. It's pretty groovy. WX>but you've got to realize I'm currently WX>in a state of Soundgarden hysteria. I have been for the past couple years. I think we all have. WX>Boy, am I glad I joined this list. Me too. The best thing since the cheese grater. Cheese is good. WX> -I'm going to have to look into this Iced Tea thing. ;) But Iced Tea is better. Nothingman -I have shiny shoes. - --zzzz24c4420789b6gcc.cc.md.uszzzz Content-Type: text/plain; name="fell_o~1.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fell_o~1.txt" Andrew Northcutt This song was taken from the Cherry Lane book with a couple of my suggestions to make it easier to play. WOW! A Soundgarden song in normal tuning! Whole song is in 6/4 time. KEY b/4=1/4th bend, b/h=half bend, b/f=full bend h=hammer on p=pull off / OR \=slide up/down Fell on Black Days - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This one of the simplest songs by Soundgarden. The key is G and the guitar is in normal tunning. You'll play the intro rhythm most of the song but anyway, simple or not IT ROCKS!!! In the last bar of this rhythm, guitar II plays in the 9th fret on the G string bent a full step and lets go slowly. Verse rhythm--------------| FILL 1------------------| Play 3 times 4/4 time B||--0--||back G||---9----4--2-0-0-0-0-0-----||---9----4--2-0-0--||--0--|| to D||o--9--x-4--2-0-2-2-2-2----o||---9--x-4--2-0-2--||--2--|| 6/4 A||o--7--x-2------3-3-3-3----o||---7--x-2------3--||--3--||time! E||-----------------------0---||------------------||-----|| b/h b/h For the verse play Verse rhythm 9 times(above). The little fill is written in a wierd way in the book so I'll transcribe my version which I feel sounds even better. (Play in 4/4 and return to 6/4) FILL 2 E||--------------------||----------0-0--|| B||--0--0-0--0--0-0----||----------0-0--|| G||--------------------||-------7--0-0--|| D||--9--9-9--9--9-9\7--||--7-7----------|| A||--------------------||-------5--7-7--|| E||--7--7-7--7--7-7\5--||--5-5-----8-8--|| For the chorus, play the verse rhythm 3 times and then FILL 1. Then the verse rhythm comes again 9 times (told ya!) and FILL 2. This time Kim plays a little fill in FILL 2 which goes: ^^^^^(vibrato notes) ^^^^^^^ ^^^^ B||--------------------||----10---10-----10-------||-----||He plays this G||--7---------9----7--||----------------------9--||-(9)-||at the end too. D||--------9-----------||-------------------------||-----|| A||--------------------||-------------------------||-----|| b/f b/f b/f Now play the Verse rhythm 3 times for the chorus and now the cool part comes: "black days. How would.. Play 2 x G||---9---4---2-0-0\--7--7--7--||--9-x-4---2-0--0-0-0-0-----|| D||o--9-x-4---2-0-2\--7--7--7--||--9-x-4---2-0--2-2-2-2---o-|| A||o--7-x-2-------3\--5--5--5--||--7-x-2--------3-3-3-3---o-|| E||----------------------------||-----------------------0---|| b/h G||--9-x-4---2-0-0----0-0--|| D||--9-x-4---2-0-2----2-2--|| A||--7-x-2-------3----3-3--|| E||------------------------|| b/h Interlude(alas, a different rhythm!): (4/4 time). G||----------9-/13--/14--||-(14)----16-17-16--14--16--17---19--|| D||o--9--9-9----------0--||--(0)--0--0---------0---0---0-0--0--|| A||o---------7-/11--/12--||-(12)-------------------------------|| E||---7--7-7-------------||------------------------------------|| h p _____________________________ ____________________________________ |1.2. | |3. G||-(19)--17--16--14------14\---||-(19)---16-17-16--14--16--17----16--|| D||--(0)---0---0---0----0--0---o||--(0)-0--0--0--0---0---0---0--0--0--|| A||----------------------------o||------------------------------------|| E||-----------------------------||------------------------------------|| h p G||-(16)-----16-17-16-14--16--17-----19--||-(19)--17--16-14-----12-11\9--|| D||--(0)--0---0--0--0--0---0---0--0---0--||--(0)---0---0--0------0--0----|| A||--------------------------------------||------------------------------|| E||--------------------------------------||------------------------------|| (Suprise, suprise)Play Verse Rhythm 8 times for last verse. In the "Hands are for shaking" part play these chords: (4/4 time first 2 bars, 2/4 last one) Play 3 times E||------------------||-----------0-0--||-(0)---|| B||------------------||-----------0-0--||-(0)---|| G||o--9--9-9----9----||--------7--0-0--||-(0)--o|| D||o--9--9-9--9-9-9--||--\7-7--7-------||------o|| A||---7--7-7--9-7-9--||--\7-7--5--7-7--||-(7)---|| E||-----------7---7--||--\5-5-----8-8--||-(8)---|| Guess what? Play the Chorus with the verse rhythm but NOW you play with this fill: B||-------------------||--------------------||------------------|| G||--4--/9-9--/12-12--||--\4--/9-9--/12-12--||--13--\7-7--/9-9--|| D||-------------------||--------------------||------------------|| A||--2--/7-7--/10-10--||--\2--/7-7--/10-10--||--11--\5-5--/7-7--|| E||-------------------||--------------------||------------------|| B||------------------7-7-7--|| G||--13--9--/14-14\--7-7-7--|| D||------------------7-7-7--|| A||--11--7--/12-12\--5-5-5--|| E||-------------------------|| Play this with the "How would I know.." riff: Play 3 times B||---9-------------||---------------------|| G||o--9--9--/12-12--||--13--\7-7--/14-14--o|| D||o--9-------------||--------------------o|| A||---7--7--/10-10--||--11--\5-5--/12-12---|| E||not played B||--9-------------||--------------------|| G||--9--9--/14-14--||--13--\7-7--/14-14--|| D||--9-------------||--------------------|| A||--7--7--/12-12--||--11--\5-5--/12-12--|| E||not played And for the grand "finale" play FILL 2 and let the last note ring out. Oh yeah the outro solo goes like this: ^^^^ ^^^ ^^^ E||-------------------||----------------------|| B||-------------------||-----------------10---||hold last note until G||--7------7-7-7-----||--9---9--x-7-9-7------||death. D||------9---------9--||----------------------|| b/f h p b/f Andreworks & Co. (HAPA). - --zzzz24c4420789b6gcc.cc.md.uszzzz-- ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Re: Can't we all just get along? > >> >GOD! That sounds too cool for words, if we poor deprived brits EVER saw >anything like that on TV..... Well put it this way, when we got Pearl Jam >unplugged I nearly shit myself ;) This must be the umteenth time I've posted >to complain about this, but it really gets to me, you know.. Reading all >these posts about overexposure and then thinking about the last time I saw >Soundgarden on TV (1994?) Is there any good reason anyone can think of why >we have nothing at all cool on TV here? Umm one reason it is in England :) No, but if you think about it, the stuff that is on MTV etc happens like once a year or when a new album/single or something comes out. Otherwise it's pretty much crap 24 hours a day. Was in the US in the 80's and wasn't MTV great then :) I think I got all of Modonna's videos day after day :) But us down in Aust. are about the same...only occasionally do we get some really cool stuff on TV about bands etc. We started getting the MTV unplugged each week just resently so that's cool. But as for the rest...oh well I guess I could shell out some cash for cable..... _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "I was cruel" by Magic Dirt (not a cd but a 10" is good enough :) ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Re: Breaking up is hard to do ... >I started thinking about this the other day when I heard a Rolling Stones >song on the radio. > >Ever wonder how Soundgarden is going to end their career? I mean, are they >going to continue on like RS until everyone is sick of them (not that many >of us will get sick of them). Can you imagine Kim, Chris, Ben and Matt, >sitting in wheelchairs, old and decrepit (sp?), playing Big Dumb Sex? That >would be kind of funny, but unrealistic. > >What do you think will lead to the demise of SG? I can't see them breaking up. >I don't want to see one of them die (like Kurt). I dunno. It just seems >kind of weird. I don't want them to stop creating music, but I don't want >them to become like RS. I am babbling now, so I am off. I don't know, i think they will continue on and on, They have been around for a fair while now and nothing has shown them to even think of stopping. As for becoming like RS...look and bands like Sonic Youth..while not as old as RS (Kym is something like 43) they are still curning out cutting edge/new music, and have not yet got boring. So maybe that's how Sg will go...on and on into the distance continuing with new music :) Hope so anyway seeya _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "I was cruel" by Magic Dirt (not a cd but a 10" is good enough :) ------------------------------ From: UnknMan@aol.com Subject: re: "All Your Lies' lyrics >How 'bout "biting, fighting, back from dying"? >On Fri, 22 Mar 1996 >rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: >> UN>OK OK... I've decided to do my best with the lyrics to a song that're clearl >> UN>incorrect as seen at Seth's web site. >> >> UN>Clipless, falling, limping, crawling, >> UN>biting, fight back from dying, >> >> I think it's "fighting, back from dying" I'm not listening to it, but >> it fits better. >> >> Nothingman Yeah.. sorry about that... I didn't correct my message. I meant to write: "biting, fighting back from dying' And yes, not "biting, fighting, back from dying." Just seems that he's fighting back from dying rather than back from dying... more senseable... then again "I'm tightrope walking a 2 ton shoe" isn't all that senseable. (c: UnknownMan ------------------------------ From: wxs129@psu.edu (William D. Shipe) Subject: Re: What's on the Turn Table or CD Platter >Here are my three "Heavy Rotation Choices": This sounds fun. Here are my picks: 1) Superunknown, Badmotorfinger--I just recently joined the list, and reading what you all have to say has whipped me into a Soundgarden frenzy (just ask my roommate!) 2) Mad Season--I now really appreciate the song Long Gone Day on this album. Any other Alice In Chains fans out there? I guess I'm just really into that Seattle sound (Pearl Jam, SG, AIC, STP). 3) Dulcinea--Toad the Wet Sprocket. I can't listen to Seattle-sound all the time (though I have been making a valiant effort in the last few weeks). Incidentally, this has been a good day for me. Around 7:00 PM ET tonight (I'm at Penn State) I went out to get a blank tape at a CD store here, but naturally I drifted over to the Soundgarden stuff. They had Alive In The Superunknown barely used for $10! I said, "screw the blank tape," and bought the CD. There is a LOT of cool stuff on that thing! I'm so excited. I've just been sitting here watching all the videos (there are about a million of them for my favorite Soundgarden song, Superunknown) and figuring stuff out on my guitar. Anyone happen to know what chords those are at the beginning of Fell On Black Days? I think it's an E, then some other ones, then a C. Do they have the actual video for Spoonman on the CD? I found Fell On Black Days, Black Hole Sun, The Day I Tried to Live, My Wave, and, of course, Superunknown (all of which are videos that one would see on MTV if MTV actually played videos instead of showing us The Real World 17 and other shows about people we don't care about), in addition to a live version of Kickstand. I'm just wondering if there's some other stuff on there that I haven't found yet. It took me while to figure out what was going on. My roommate need sleep, so I guess I have to stop playing with it for now out of respect for his well-being. That's why I'm doing something quiet like e-mail. I'm really rambling here, but you've got to realize I'm currently in a state of Soundgarden hysteria. Boy, am I glad I joined this list. Talk to you later then. Kesa -I'm going to have to look into this Iced Tea thing. ;) Soundgarden break up? No... ,,,, (-_-) /_o_\ ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic) Subject: Re: MTV & Headbangers' Ball >>oh well I guess I could shell out some cash for >>cable..... > >You get MTV without cable? Not me. Actually, now that I'm in college, I >don't even have a TV, so I'm hopeless out of touch with the world. No, we get specials :) On ABC (government channel) so no ads :) I guess it's alright, but usally the specials are months after whatever it was went to air. Otherwise if I want to watch other American progys..like Saturday Night Live on May 18th where a good band just happens to be playing...I have to buy cable. And yeah I don't watch TV much..only when something good is on...but then I miss out on everything that I don't read about beforehand :) Oh well TV sucks anyway. _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it UP and Play it LOUD!! Let the blood rush to your head!! CD I'm listening to this week: "I was cruel" by Magic Dirt (not a cd but a 10" is good enough :) ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 73] ***************************************