From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 15 Mar 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 02:06:58 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 15 Mar 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: always the lashes... Fake?? hmmm... New Album Tours (Fwd) Re: british lollapalloza - and PUSA stuff (Fwd) New Seattle Documentary tour (Fwd) SG better not "conform"... (Fwd) Re: SG better not "conform"... Re: SG better not "conform"... (Fwd) hmmm... Re: SG better not "conform"... Re: DEADline for shirts 3-20-96! Shirt again and again and again.... Re: DEADline for shirts 3-20-96! Re: SG better not "conform"... Re: DEADline for shirts 3-20-96! article T-Shirt ;dflsj Re: (Fwd) New Seattle Documentary cool quote, thought I'd share.. Re: T-Shirt RE: Shirt again and again and again.... Interview Ben Timberlake's T-shirt Layout somms on t-shirt yes the shirt again My $.02 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 11 Mar 1996 password? Re: My $.02 Today's many topics Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 14 Mar 1996 SOUNDGARDEN song titles Re: SOUNDGARDEN song titles Clown's Bloody Comments is sk8rchick around? um... SOMMS@MIT.EDU Re: my $.02 Hey, Matt Cameron Matt Cameron read this too! ah, ah, ah, ah, Stayin' Aliiiive Message for Matt Re: Tours Re: (Fwd) Re: british lollapalloza - and PUSA stuff Re: T-shirts....what else? :-) Re: um... Re: Soundgarden Bootlegs Re: SOUNDGARDEN song titles Yes. It is true. SG newsgroup Just putting my two cents in various soundgarden ramblings ------------------------------------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: always the lashes... On Wed, 13 Mar 1996, daveste wrote: > the radio, its pathetic, and Zero isn't too hot neither. I don't like > that "Kyle Petty" song by SG too much, I hope that they don't conform > like all the other wusses that used to be good, and go changing that > style on us...WEll, with a new album, we shall see.... you can't find the heaviness in kyle petty? where are you looking? there is no way you can draw a comparison between kyle petty and something like 1979. the vocals are obviously miles apart, and the riff kim built is a crunchy as all hell. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: Fake?? Ok peoples... I was perusing a few of the thirteen million bulletin boards on AOL, and I cam across this post. Believe this fool, or not. Here it is: - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subj: McCready on SG Date: 96-03-10 22:22:49 EST From: Tatcat Mike McCready of Pearl Jam posted in the Pearl Jam folder a day or two ago. He mentioned Soundgarden, to wit: <> People I trust tell me it was really McCready posting, spelling errors and all. Sorry if this is old news. Barb - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ----- So... whatcha think peoples? Assuming that any of you would give a flying rat's bootie what Mike McCready's opinion of SG , that is. Just thought I'd share. Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: hmmm... Ok peoples... here's another AOL thingy I came across tonight. I was in the MTV Yack rooms (please don't persecute me for it, I was bored), and I casually mentioned how Chris Cornell is GOD, and this chic announced that Chris was an asshole and a pervert. I asked for an explanation. This is the conversation, verbatim: SACNAC: Do you want me to tell you? ShRooMGrLz: sure, why not... SACNAC: first..where do you live? ShRooMGrLz: Dallas SACNAC: oh..Im from Los Angeles..OK i was in a club and he was going around thinking he was the shit and i didnt even know who he was so i was going out the door from the club and he grabbed my SACNAC: arm and like played all slick and kissed me out of nowhere. ShRooMGrLz: Yah, right. ShRooMGrLz: Age? SACNAC: 19..he kept saying stupid shit like your so pretty..blah..blah..and i didnt even know who he was until my boyfiend told me. ShRooMGrLz: Are you sure it was him? ShRooMGrLz: When was this? SACNAC: Of course im sure because i know the mang. of the club and he said he was on the geust list.It was a few monthes ago or something at Lemmie of Motorheads B-day party..And my boyfriends a musician so he would know. ShRooMGrLz: What happened after he tried to kiss you? SACNAC: does he have a girlfriend? And he wears makeup. nothing he just kept going your so pretty and so forth then like an hour later i saw him kissing another girl. ShRooMGrLz: He's married. ShRooMGrLz: He's been married since 1990 SACNAC: NO SHIT!!!! SACNAC: oh fuck....now i feel bad! SACNAC: oh my god. ShRooMGrLz: ok... whatever... And then I signed off. Comments people? I'd love to hear 'em!! Shroom ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: New Album Well blimey! For once I hear something from Kerrannnnnnnnnggggggggg!!!!!! before I hear it form the List. Some more info on the new album... I can't remember exact details cos I left the mag at home but the typically sensationalist headline read ''SOUNDGARDEN MAN IN NEAR DEATH DRAMA''....(you learn to ignore these things after you have been reading Kerrrrrrraaaaaaaaaannnnnngggggggg!!! for a while)...It was about a song Kim wrote called Never The Machine Forever, which is about (he says) a ''life and death struggle'' and it is based on personal experience. Whatever that means. He also said that the new album was different, less riffy, with less of a Soundgarden stamp but still with the distinctive sound. He said it was weirder & Ben had done a lot more songwriting, and he said it was more vocals-oriented. He also said that one of the songs was ''almost ambient''. Well, this all sounds very interesting to me anyway. Sorry I can't give more quotes; I forgot to bring it with me. ........Well, that's it from me for 5 weeks - Easter break!! Have fun folks, seeya in 5 weeks' time....(by which time it will be just about a month till the album comes out!!).... Beck - ps. Terrorvision are the best band in Britain and everyone in America should go out and but all their albums now cos I said so!!!!! The are gonna be big this year....... ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: Tours >>Reading and Phoenix aren't the same.. We NEED a tour...... >> >> Matt >> >A tour would be good, but who would you put on it. ......A tour would be the best. you could put ANYONE on it, as long as it was a Soundgarden tour. I'm sure they'd think of someone! > The lineuo for a tour >that I would like would be: > Soundgarden (headlining of course) > PUSA > PJ > FNM > Smashing Pumpkins .............................................well, it would be more of a festival than a tour! But that line up would be great!! Except I'd put PUSA at the bottom and FNM under SG, probably....I'd still prefer a proper SG tour though. >& seeing as the tour would be in Britain > Manic Street Preachers ........NOOOO....TERRORVISION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beck ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) Re: british lollapalloza - and PUSA stuff >If they ever did I would personally eat my entire CD singles collection >(even the Radio only Terrorvision CD's I have). Hey Matt I'm from Sussex >- where do you reckon they could play the gig in Sussex .........You are from Sussex?? Wow!! Where?? I'm from Surrey (Guildford). Well, I'll tell you where I think they should play this dream gig....do you know that big Tesco's in Horsham? Well, they should play in the coffee shop there (if it still has one). NO, I DON'T THINK SO.......they should play at the Agincourt in Cambrley. Ever been there? It's great for gigs. Or they should play the Splatch night at Guildford under aliases. Or best of all, they should play the field near the back of my house.... >Back to Soundgarden - Did anyone answer the question what tracks did Kim >play on on the PUSA album. .......Naked and Famous. Beck - you have radio-only Terrorvision cd's? Snot fair! ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) New Seattle Documentary >I just read that, "Eddie Vedder jammed at the pary for 'Hype!,' a documentary >ode to Seattle grunge." Does anyone know if SG is going to be featured in >this? ......Yes, they are. NOT THAT THE BRITISH WILL EVER SEE IT!!!!!!!! Beck - AAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHH. ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: tour >. I simply prefer to see an all-Sg show! What's anyone >else's thoughts? .....agreed! In a small venue too! Like my house!!! Beck ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) SG better not "conform"... >Im so sick of good bands "evolving" into today's alternative soft shit... ......what do you mean, ''alternative soft shit'' ?? >Pearl Jam WAS good with Ten, but what happened?? They got too soft ....they didn't go soft. They went maybe a bit weird, but never soft, and Vitalogy (while it's nowhere near as good as Ten) is not a bad album... >...I >heard Metallica cut their hair to look like a grunge band now, I bet >they'll start to soften up too ......I think they just cut their hair for the hell of it. If you've seen the way they've actually had it cut, it does not look like a ''grunge'' band. Whatever that is. Who cares about the ''look'' anyway?? >...Smashing Pumpkins had a good thing >going with Siamese Dream; now all I hear is that lame ass '1979" song on >the radio, its pathetic, and Zero isn't too hot neither. .....i disagree with you. > I don't like >that "Kyle Petty" song by SG too much, I hope that they don't conform >like all the other wusses that used to be good, and go changing that >style on us.. .....I _ profoundly_ disagree with you....Kyle Petty is cool. .Beck - btw, I lied about that ''new album'' post being my last..... ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) Re: SG better not "conform"... - ->There's more to a band than being heavy, not that Pearl Jam have turned soft >all of a sudden, how boring would it be if all their songs sounded like the >songs on Ten over the years.. ....yeah - like I said, although Ten is my fave., I think Vitalogy's pretty good and I love Vs. You can really see the development of a band. >As far as Soundgarden goes, I'd be surprised if this new album sounded like >anything they'd done before.. Superunknown was like that, Badmotorfinger was >too, Soundgarden have always changed their style and stayed diverse, that's >what's so good about them. .....I love watching them unfold, as it were. You can really trace a development. The same with FNM (Jackhammer, did you get that post? My email's been a bit funny)... >You might not like to see bands "evolving" but IMHO, that is the only way they >stay interesting. .....agreed! That's what it's all about..... Beck ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SG better not "conform"... From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > Im so sick of good bands "evolving" into today's alternative soft shit... > Pearl Jam WAS good with Ten, but what happened?? They got too soft... There's more to a band than being heavy, not that Pearl Jam have turned soft all of a sudden, how boring would it be if all their songs sounded like the songs on Ten over the years.. > I > heard Metallica cut their hair to look like a grunge band now, I bet > they'll start to soften up too.... Metallica? Naah.. No way.. > Smashing Pumpkins had a good thing > going with Siamese Dream; now all I hear is that lame ass '1979" song on > the radio, its pathetic, and Zero isn't too hot neither. 1979 is a really cool song, it never gets played here, so it hasn't got boring yet.. I think we've all come to expect that the singles a band releases get old well before they ought to.. Take Today, it rocked but then it got old REALLY quick.. > I don't like > that "Kyle Petty" song by SG too much, I hope that they don't conform > like all the other wusses that used to be good, and go changing that > style on us...WEll, with a new album, we shall see.... > As far as Soundgarden goes, I'd be surprised if this new album sounded like anything they'd done before.. Superunknown was like that, Badmotorfinger was too, Soundgarden have always changed their style and stayed diverse, that's what's so good about them. You might not like to see bands "evolving" but IMHO, that is the only way they stay interesting. Matt ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) hmmm... > And then I signed off. Comments people? I'd love to >hear 'em!! > > Shroom ..........wow, d'you think that's true? I don't. Make up? Oh, I dunno. Maybe it was Kirk Hammett. He's got the same colour hair and sometimes he looks like he's wearing makeup (but he doesn't have the same shaggability-rating as CC). Cos I know Metallica were at the party....hmmmmm...interesting. Course it'd be very easy to make that story up. I could've said all those things and you'd never know if it was true. Maybe the other person was CC or Susan Silver, just out for a laugh. Ya never know! Maybe we ladies should be pleased at this...maybe the marriage is a sham and we're all in with a chance (ahem, ok, maybe not....) Beck ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: SG better not "conform"... Man, it's hard to address a message that's so devoid of accuracy, but...When were Pearl Jam and Smashing Pumpkins ever heavy? 'Heaviness' has nothing to do with either band. They both have had a mix of slower and faster songs. Metallica slowed down a bit (alot), but they are still heavy. It's all a matter of energy. Soundgarden has had the same mix of faster and slower songs for the last 3 albums. And Kyle Petty is soft?? Are you sure you weren't listening to Tom Petty?? >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: DEADline for shirts 3-20-96! I'd just like to say that either way, with or without '@mit.edu', it will be 'mysterious'. It's not like people are going to say 'somms@mit.edu, that explains everything.'. If anything you will get more questions if it says '@mit.edu'. People will come up to you and say 'Hey is there an internet mailing list for soundgarden?????? >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: Joco Agostinho Subject: Shirt again and again and again.... Hi all! Just writting to say that i think that all the things that you guys are saying about the shirt are allright except for the somms part. I'm with little joe when he is saying that if we put only somms and the shirt people will associate it to the e.p. (and we dont want that yes?. So i think somms@mit.edu as to be in the shirt. That's all. Oh by the way can any of you tell me what IMHO means i can't figure it out (sorry for my stupidity but i'm not english. "I'm not fine, fuck pretending" - L.S. |Write always, Write soon | C-ya!! ------------------------------------------ | | | Por/By: Joco Agostinho | | E-MAIL: mailto:joao.alex@mail.telepac.pt | | URL: http://www.geopages.com/paris/3276 | | | | Olhco - Algarve - Portugal | | | ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: DEADline for shirts 3-20-96! From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > I'd just like to say that either way, with or without '@mit.edu', it will > be 'mysterious'. It's not like people are going to say 'somms@mit.edu, > that explains everything.'. If anything you will get more > questions if it says '@mit.edu'. People will come up to you and say 'Hey > is there an internet mailing list for soundgarden?????? > I agree wholeheartedly.. SOMMS on its own isn't exclusive to the list, but somms@mit.edu would only be recognised by a list-member.. Even if it's not all that noticable, we NEED the @mit.edu.. Matt ------------------------------ From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" Subject: Re: SG better not "conform"... On 14 Mar 96 at 9:59, Matthew Paul Lawrence wrote: > > > > Im so sick of good bands "evolving" into today's alternative soft shit... > > Pearl Jam WAS good with Ten, but what happened?? They got too soft... > There's more to a band than being heavy, not that Pearl Jam have turned soft > all of a sudden, how boring would it be if all their songs sounded like the > songs on Ten over the years.. I do have to agree that PJ was cooler than cool with Ten, and I don't know what happened w/ the subsequent albums. I have a few theories, like band problems and so on, but this is a debate I won't pick up on this wonderful Sg list! However, I also have to agree that bands must evolve. It's only human nature. Think about it--these musicians, be it Sg or anyone, go thru life just like we do, they face problems just like we do, moods, disappointments, etc., just like we do. Don't YOU change over time? So why wouldn't they? Frankly, IMHO, I think it would be terribly boring if any band put out album after album that sounded the same. People are fretting over the upcoming Sg album, and why not--we've been anxiously awaitng it! I haven't heard one note of it yet, but I know someone who has heard it all thru the mixing stages, and he says there will be not doubt in anyone's mind that it IS Soundgarden. I can't wait! I know what I'm expecting--hard, heavy, dark--but I also expect some diffferences, b/c they are all changing and defining their sound as they go. > As far as Soundgarden goes, I'd be surprised if this new album sounded like > anything they'd done before.. Superunknown was like that, Badmotorfinger was > too, Soundgarden have always changed their style and stayed diverse, that's > what's so good about them. > > You might not like to see bands "evolving" but IMHO, that is the only way they > stay interesting. > > Matt > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mercyhurst Preparatory School Keeping you connected in 1995! /\/\/\/\/\(C)1995TMK/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: DEADline for shirts 3-20-96! From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >> questions if it says '@mit.edu'. People will come up to you and say 'Hey >> is there an internet mailing list for soundgarden?????? >> >I agree wholeheartedly.. SOMMS on its own isn't exclusive to the list, but >somms@mit.edu would only be recognised by a list-member.. Even if it's not >all that noticable, we NEED the @mit.edu.. > > Matt The whole address has my vote also.. I want people to know it's more than just a Soundgarden thing. We are somms@mit.ed and we are special because of it. Besides to us it will always be a tribute to Seth as well as SG.... Jamie ------------------------------ From: Andrew John Sharp Subject: article In this weeks Kerang! there is an interview with Kim about the new album (like an idiot I forgot to bring the damn thing) but in it he describes the album as being kinda trancy with less of the heavy guitar driven stuff with more songs by Ben (remember head down). There are also some song titles including Blow up the outside world (and others we've heard before) and a couple o' new ones that I haven't heard before. If I remember, I'll bring it in and post it to seth... Andy p.s. we want soundgarden,we want soundgarden,we want soundgarden, we want soundgarden,we want soundgarden,we want soundgarden, we want soundgarden,we want soundgarden, in the UK! p.p.s. seth - you've seen _how_ many copies of somms in the same shop? - I've never even seen screaming life/fopp - that's how bad it is here :( ------------------------------ From: Andrew John Sharp Subject: T-Shirt OK, the three main things (posting w/..., fork & somms) are great but thinking about it, I reckon that Little Joe is right - somms@mit.edu should be on there - esp. if its the web page artwork which I think looks pretty cool (IMHO!) Andy ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: ;dflsj I agree that SOMMS@MIT.EDU is needed. I think it wouldn't mean the same thing (a list t-shirt) if it didn't have the very basic thing the list is (the ADDRESS). I know someone is going to post "We are the list, McCheese, and we don't need the whole address cause we're a community" or some shit, but after all is said and done: Somms is a limited edition E.P. SOMMS@MIT.EDU is all of us. Sincerly, Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valueable cash prizes. **By recieving this letter you can join the Official Aaron G. Beyer Fan Club now by replying to this letter! Or type f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** ------------------------------ Subject: Re: (Fwd) New Seattle Documentary From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > >I just read that, "Eddie Vedder jammed at the pary for 'Hype!,' a documentary > >ode to Seattle grunge." Does anyone know if SG is going to be featured in > >this? > ......Yes, they are. NOT THAT THE BRITISH WILL EVER SEE IT!!!!!!!! Unless of course a kindly american would like to send a batch of videos over to keep us poor brits satisfied... ;P Matt ------------------------------ Subject: cool quote, thought I'd share.. From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." -- Frank Zappa I thought this would be a pretty cool thing to post on the list, seeing how relevant it is and all that :) Matt ------------------------------ Subject: Re: T-Shirt From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > OK, the three main things (posting w/..., fork & somms) are great > but thinking about it, I reckon that Little Joe is right - somms@mit.edu > should be on there - esp. if its the web page artwork which I think looks > pretty cool (IMHO!) > If you mean the little graphic with the address on a piece of that funny black tape stuff, then I agree.. That's what I imagined on the shirt from day one.. I think that'd look pretty cool on the back of a white shirt, at the top.. Matt ------------------------------ From: "buddha@dmv.com" Subject: RE: Shirt again and again and again.... I must agree The shirt MUST have "SOMMS@mit.edu" That will be a conversation starter for both SG fans and computer geeks. Buddha - ---------- From: Joco Agostinho[SMTP:joao.alex@mail.telepac.pt] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 1996 8:44 AM To: Soundgarden Mailing List Subject: Shirt again and again and again.... Hi all! Just writting to say that i think that all the things that you guys are saying about the shirt are allright except for the somms part. I'm with little joe when he is saying that if we put only somms and the shirt people will associate it to the e.p. (and we dont want that yes?. So i think somms@mit.edu as to be in the shirt. That's all. Oh by the way can any of you tell me what IMHO means i can't figure it out (sorry for my stupidity but i'm not english. "I'm not fine, fuck pretending" - L.S. |Write always, Write soon | C-ya!! ------------------------------------------ | | | Por/By: Joco Agostinho | | E-MAIL: mailto:joao.alex@mail.telepac.pt | | URL: http://www.geopages.com/paris/3276 | | | | Olhco - Algarve - Portugal | | | ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: Interview Since I wasn't flooded with questions the first time, here's the last chance: I am going to be interviewing Scott Granlund (Played the sax) about what it was like to record with soundgarden in the studio (BMF era). Anyone with a half good question E-mail it to me with the subject: Question so I can get this done. Yep, The Cheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes. **By receiving this letter you can join the Official Aaron G. Beyer Fan Club now by replying to this letter with the subject: FAN CLUB! Or type f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** ------------------------------ From: "buddha@dmv.com" Subject: Ben Timberlake's T-shirt Layout I think Ben Timbelake's T-shirt layout is the best I've seen so far. Maybe different fonts on the back. BUDDHA ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Ben Timberlake) Subject: somms on t-shirt It looks like the biggest sticking point is what form of to have on the t-shirt. should it be or ? We should probably take a vote. I'm willing to tabulate votes for this. If the list is willing to subject the design of the t-shirt to the decision of this vote, I'll count the votes. Details upon support of this idea. - Ben (P.S. despite personal preference, I _will_ be fair. This can be insured by posting the final votes for each with who voted for each. That way, the vote can be held individually accountable) Ben Timberlake Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, Northwestern University Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Medill School of Journalism DON'T TOUCH ME! btimlake@nwu.edu -30- "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: DKAASC@tevm2.nsc.com Subject: yes the shirt again FROM: Kazam Ali Personal Computer/Network Specialist Computer and Network Support SUBJECT: yes the shirt again >From: LITTLE JOE >Subject: yes the shirt again > > >I think we definetly have to have somms@mit.edu on the shirt. Otherwise >nothing about it will identify with the net/mailing list. It will just be a >bootleg shirt of the e.p somms with a funny fork on the front. I disagree(once again).......don't you think that"POSTING WITH OUR GOOD EYE CLOSED" is just enough to identify the mailing list. If we're goin' to put the whole damn address on, we might as well put all of are names and postings on it!!! Come on, let's keep it simple, mysterious. If people ask what it means, then WE'LL just do the explaining ourselves! Kazam (I'm still for just "SOMMS", damnit.) "The key to immortality is first living a life worth remembering." - Brandon Bruce Lee Feb. 1, 1965 - Mar. 31, 1993 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: My $.02 I think it would be cool to have 'somms@mit.edu' on the shirt, as well. Maybe cause I'm partial to the @ symbol, I dunno. :> But I thought that if somebody's gonna take votes, I'd throw mine in.. foreshocks ------------------------------ From: THE CHEESY QUEEN!! Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 11 Mar 1996 , but if any one can give me the dates for New Your, I would appreciate it!!! This one will be the best one yet! ------------------------------ From: sfox@mailer.fsu.edu (Stephen Fox) Subject: password? could somebody direct me to the proposed t-shirt designs. I want to see the possibilities so I can scrape some $$ together. hope to hear from somebody soon. Thanx in advance. Great Big Noise, Stephen R. Fox sfox@mailer.fsu.edu ------------------------------ From: Nate Crosswhite Subject: Re: My $.02 At 02:51 PM 3/14/96 -0500, you wrote: >I think it would be cool to have 'somms@mit.edu' on the shirt, as well. >Maybe cause I'm partial to the @ symbol, I dunno. :> But I thought >that if somebody's gonna take votes, I'd throw mine in.. >foreshocks > Tack up another vote for "somms@mit.edu" Nate ------------------------------ From: Just another music lover! Subject: Today's many topics ugh about it! And to that guy Beck, hey man I'll go and take lots of pictures! (just kidding, I'm not that arrogant!) Anyway, I have an Idea on how you could go to lolla. but I'm not sure if you want to hear it!! Let me know! I'm gonna break my rusted cage and run!!!!!!!!! ------------------------------ From: Just another music lover! Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 14 Mar 1996 I would love to know what all this talk about a tee shirt is! I am new to tke list, so therefore I am lost! I can honestly say that there are a lot of us! Anyway, Who can tell me when lollapalloza is comming to the big apple? I just have to go, of course because Soundgarden, but Metallica and the Ramones I honestly don't think it could get much better! And to the crew from Europe, I got a way you guys can get here but I don't know if you are willing to go the extra mile! Has anyone ever seen Oasis in concert? Well I did last night and they have the worst stage prescence (I think I spelled that wrong) than any other show I've ever seen. Don't get me wrong the music was amazing! Well I'm gonna break my rusted cage and run!!!!! ------------------------------ From: sfox@mailer.fsu.edu (Stephen Fox) Subject: SOUNDGARDEN song titles I just got off the phone with a friend of mine that has heard the new record! Here are some song titles: Pretty Noose Blow Up the Outside World Tighter & Tighter Switch Open Apple Bite Zero Chance No Attention Over Floater Ty Cobb Never Named An Unkind Dusty. Songs that may not be on the record but may be used for B-sides: Bleed Together Kyle Petty. There isn't a name yet, nor is there any artwork. My source (who is VERY reliable, trust me) says there should be something on radio as soon as late April, with the record to come "sometime in May, unless it gets pushed back." Thought you all would like to know. If I hear anything else (like the record itself) I'll let you know. Great Big Noise, Stephen R. Fox sfox@mailer.fsu.edu ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDEN song titles From: seth Well, for what it's worth, I got this today... - ----- Forwarded message ----- Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:54:02 -0800 To: saperl@MIT.EDU HEY SETH, I SHOULD START OUT BY INTRODUCING MYSELF. MATT CAMERON FROM S.G. I HAVE BEEN REALLY HAPPY WITH YOUR SITE. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME AND ENERGY GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT MY BAND. BEING NEW TO COMPUTERS AND INTERNET, IT'S A BLAST LISTENING IN ON OUR AUDIENCE! THE TABLES ARE FINALLY TURNDED WERE THE PERFORMER IS BENG ENTERTAINED BY THE AUDIENCE. HERE'S SOME NEW ALBUM INFO: TITLES INCLUDE: PRETTY NOOSE BURDEN IN MY HAND ZERO CHANCE SWITCH OPENS RHINOSAUR BLOW UP THE OUTSIDE WORLD NEVER NAMED APPLEBITE NEVER THE MACHINE FOREVER TIGHTER AND TIGHTER BOOT CAMP AN UNKIND OVERFLOATER DUSTY NO ATTENTION TY COBB WE HOPE TO HAVE IT OUT BY MAY 21. SELF PRODUCED ETC. IT'S STRONG AS SHIT IN MY NON HUMBLE OPINION. CHECK IT OUT, HOPE YOU LIKE IT. PEACE. M.C. - ----- End Forwarded message ----- Maybe it's real, maybe it's not. I have no idea. The only thing that disturbs me is that I *can't* prove it's a fake. seth ------------------------------ From: dao5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Clown's Bloody Comments To whomsoever cares, I don't feel like quoting the digest, so I am making a random disjointed post. (Like nothing man) Lets see... okay first has anyone noticed that the second track and vitalolgy sounds like down undershoe by hater, they're another song on it that sounds like track 8 on the hater album, I expected to hear "star lover, star lover" instead I heard vedder. Hmm, oh yeah at 12:30 AM eastern time on march 14 1996, MTV did something right, they played the "My Wave" video and then they played "Israel's Son" by silver chair. I could be wrong but it sounds, like "flower" , "hands all over" and "kyle petty son of richard" thrown in a blender. With some other stuff thrown in, if those kids are still around in 5-10 years they could be a fucking awesome band. Hmm.. oh yeah I personally would drive 10 hours to hear sg play 1 song let alone 45 minutes. What else.... oh yeah you cannot really flame a band for changing they're sound. As long as the music isn't suffering from a artistic standpoint. Sg metemorphisized into a new band almost with superunknown, but they quality of the music did not suffer. The music was as dark as ever if not darker, the lyrics were the best the band has ever written. The music they wrote are some of the most complicated songs to date. Metallica on the other hand wrote 12 songs that are basically the same. Like I was saying earlier, if you can play the drum to one song on the black album you can basically play the drums to the whole thing. Just speed up or slow it down. And do a random changeup every couple of measures. Anyway I have rambled enough, c-ya Clown =============================================================================== -So your super-connected now, your hair full of glass. Throw your clothes in the hallway.... Just a sheet on your back. Belly ------------------------------ From: "920460- JUSTINE J. EVANS" Subject: is sk8rchick around? well are you? i am at school and do not have your adress, i am insanely bored so you can write to me any time *ned* hee hee actually, anyone who wants to should write to me or i will die.... : ( is he who walks between around? i am just trying to think of all the people i know..... anyone going to lolla in vancouver? maybe you could mail me at home: jjevans@direct.ca thanks for all the responses on i got i.d. thing..... NOTHINGMAN i know you're there, talk to me i am in need of something to do.... other than homework.... : ) oh yeah, to make this sg related..... i love half and i am proud.... best drumming was on reach down. ..... i think cuz he has to play for so damn long!!! : ) ------------------------------ From: toybox Subject: um... Not to be elitist or anything, but how come most of these people talking about the shirt design are people whose addresses i don't recognize? what happened to the people that ALWAYS have something to say? I mean, i know Carolyn took count, and nothing man is doing invoice or whatever, but i want to hear from the people whose addresses usually fill my box. Not that the other votes are any less important, i just feel like i know those people a little better. any one else agree? Or am i just an elitist meathead scum? -j "The second drummer drowned, his telephone was found..." ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: SOMMS@MIT.EDU My vote is for SOMMS@MIT.EDU Do I qualify as a list regular? The Good Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes. **By receiving this letter you can join the Official Aaron G. Beyer Fan Club now by replying to this letter with the subject: FAN CLUB! Or type f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** ------------------------------ From: Jaime G GonzaleZ Subject: Re: my $.02 About the shirts and what wording is best.Some good points have been made and I agree that Somms@mit.edu would be the better choice. - --- If this is'nt making sense,it just means I can't write coherently on 4 hours sleep.| - -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I woke the same as any other day You know I should have stayed in bed Steal the rhythum while you can, Spoonman Jaime G ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: Hey, Matt Cameron If Matt Cameron is really listening in on this list, I dare him to reply to this letter. Ohh, and tell Ben that I plan on starting the Ben Shepard Home Page as soon as I get the web space. Knowing Ben he won't be impressed but his songs are the most thought out musical pieces I know (in rock anyways). The kid who Matt Cameron never replies to, Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes. **By receiving this letter you can join the Official Aaron G. Beyer Fan Club now by replying to this letter with the subject: FAN CLUB! Or type f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: Matt Cameron read this too! You are also invited (if you are on the list) to stop by and see me and Geoff when you play Minnesota this June. It would be funny to take Kim out for a beer and laugh with Ben about G.G. Allin videos I've seen. Mayor McCheese XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes. **By receiving this letter you can join the Official Aaron G. Beyer Fan Club now by replying to this letter with the subject: FAN CLUB! Or type f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: ah, ah, ah, ah, Stayin' Aliiiive I just checked out the Staying Alive clip from Seth's multimedia page. It's from the norway boot. It's hilarious. Do they actually play the entire song?? I would love to hear that. Chris's voice suits the song well. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Message for Matt Hey Matt tell Chris I'll be at his house for dinner at 8:00 on Saturday. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: nicholas holland Subject: Re: Tours On Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:35:22 +0100 (BST) R. Kingsnorth wrote: > >A tour would be good, but who would you put on it. > ......A tour would be the best. you could put ANYONE on it, as long > as it was a Soundgarden tour. I'm sure they'd think of someone! > > > The lineuo for a tour > >that I would like would be: > > Soundgarden (headlining of course) > > PUSA > > PJ > > FNM > > Smashing Pumpkins > .............................................well, it would be more > of a festival than a tour! But that line up would be great!! Except > I'd put PUSA at the bottom and FNM under SG, probably....I'd still > prefer a proper SG tour though. > > >& seeing as the tour would be in Britain > > Manic Street Preachers > ........NOOOO....TERRORVISION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Beck Thers's no particular order to the list of bands on. If your going to do a decent tour each event has got to be special. Each event on this would have to be 24 hours. I agree actually, terrorvision would be better, I don't know what came over me for a moment but I actually forgot about them (I hang my head in shame). For all those interested in Terrorvision has anyone got the new album yet - I want to know if it;'s as good as the other two and whether I need to buy it right now. Loadsa Luck Nik! "Just because your paranoid Don't mean they're not after you!" Nirvana ------------------------------ From: nicholas holland Subject: Re: (Fwd) Re: british lollapalloza - and PUSA stuff On Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:43:59 +0100 (BST) R. Kingsnorth wrote: > From: R. Kingsnorth > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:43:59 +0100 (BST) > Subject: (Fwd) Re: british lollapalloza - and PUSA stuff > To: somms@MIT.EDU > > > >If they ever did I would personally eat my entire CD singles collection > >(even the Radio only Terrorvision CD's I have). Hey Matt I'm from Sussex > >- where do you reckon they could play the gig in Sussex > .........You are from Sussex?? Wow!! Where?? I'm from Surrey > (Guildford). Well, I'll tell you where I think they should play > this dream gig....do you know that big Tesco's in Horsham? Well, > they should play in the coffee shop there (if it still has one). NO, > I DON'T THINK SO.......they should play at the Agincourt in > Cambrley. Ever been there? It's great for gigs. Or they should play > the Splatch night at Guildford under aliases. Or best of all, they > should play the field near the back of my house.... > Beck > - you have radio-only Terrorvision cd's? Snot fair! Hey Beck - I'm from Horsham. And yes I have one track radio promo C.D's. I got them from a local record shop for #6 each. It's basically the single with no B-sides. It's a bit retentive but I had to have them. Loadsa Luck Nik! "Just because your paranoid Don't mean they're not after you!" Nirvana ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: T-shirts....what else? :-) Geoff wrote: >> I'd just like to say that either way, with or without '@mit.edu', it will >> be 'mysterious'. It's not like people are going to say 'somms@mit.edu, >> that explains everything.'. If anything you will get more >> questions if it says '@mit.edu'. People will come up to you and say 'Hey >> is there an internet mailing list for soundgarden?????? >I agree wholeheartedly.. SOMMS on its own isn't exclusive to the list, but >somms@mit.edu would only be recognised by a list-member.. Even if it's not >all that noticable, we NEED the @mit.edu.. > Matt I must say I used to think like Nothingman (uh oh, that could be a dangerous thing!) and Kazam in that Somms on its own would be better. But I see Matt's point above. Otherwise, as Joco and Jamesetta and Andy and Mayor McCheese and Buddha and Foreshocks and Nate (phew!) said, people will think we're just wearing a t-shirt from the EP, and not from OUR mailing list. So how many votes is it now for somms@mit.edu???? Ben, are you counting? Nothingman, I assume that after you have counted up final numbers for t-shirt orders, you will then know a price. And you & Toni will have worked out who will be receiving the money. And you will then post the mailing list to let us all know who we should send the money to (the snail mail address) and how much to send. Am I right? Feeling organised again........... Carolyn the Mentally Fit (thanks Jackhammer) ***************************************************** I'll put on my charm; I'll tingle your spine.......Violent Femmes Don't you want to thrill me?.....Soundgarden ***************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: um... At 04:32 PM 14/03/96 -0800, HeWhoWalksBetween wrote: >....how come most of these >people talking about the shirt design are people whose >addresses i don't recognize? what happened to the people that >ALWAYS have something to say? I mean, i know Carolyn took >count, and nothing man is doing invoice or whatever, but i want >to hear from the people whose addresses usually fill my box...... Hey Chicka! Welcome back. So, what's YOUR opinion? Do you want somms or somms@mit.edu?? Maybe some of those who haven't spoken up don't want a t-shirt. I know of a couple of people who don't. And others who haven't spoken up probably don't care WHAT'S on the shirt (within reason), they just want one! Cheers Carolyn the Meaty Fox ****************************************** With my big black boots & an old suitcase, I do believe I'll find myself a new place.......Everclear ****************************************** ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Soundgarden Bootlegs Hell's yes this is quite true. I felt that "Cold Bitch" was a great song that fit right into the feel of SuPeRuNkNoWn Gregg At 10:41 AM 3/12/96 -0800, Segundo Benjamin Orell wrote: > Hey everyone I'm new on the mailing list and I'm not here to sell you >anything. However I would like to get my hands on a Soundgarden bootleg >titled Fresh Deadly Rarieties that was put out by a label called Tornado >TORO22. I would prefer it in cd form but I'll take anything I can get. >The bootleg supposedly contains rare,original studio tracks.You know the >kind of tracks usually included in international cassette/cd Soundgarden >singles but not in the USA releases. I really love Soundgarden but it >pisses me off when they go do stupid shit like releasing cool,rare songs >internationally but not domestically !!! You would figure the band would >want to reward all of their fans not just their damm foreign fans. They >should of at least included more of these songs in their last EP Songs >from the Superunknown. Anyone out there agree with me ???? > > ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDEN song titles On Thu, 14 Mar 1996, seth wrote: > Well, for what it's worth, I got this today... > > ----- Forwarded message ----- > Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 01:54:02 -0800 > To: saperl@MIT.EDU > HEY SETH, > I SHOULD START OUT BY INTRODUCING MYSELF. MATT CAMERON FROM S.G. I > HAVE BEEN REALLY HAPPY WITH YOUR SITE. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME AND > ----- End Forwarded message ----- > > Maybe it's real, maybe it's not. I have no idea. The only thing that > disturbs me is that I *can't* prove it's a fake. Well maybe you should explain to Mr. Cameron how the caps lock button works........ -j "Damn right, i'm argumentative" -Kim Thayil aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** I have a counter @ http://www.unc.edu/~toybox/words.html, please feel free to run it up all you want. Thank you and good night. ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: Yes. It is true. Tonight I was and still am working on a programming assignment. I am so sick of data abstraction, templates, inheiritance, etc . . . that I could throw up. I would quit if not for the Mother Love Bone in my portable CD player. Those songs are masterful. Anyone check out the rerelease of Malfunkshun and is it worth getting? @>--->------ < A rose for Andrew Wood's Grave. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Jesus saves souls and redeems them for valuable cash prizes. **By receiving this letter you can join the Official Aaron G. Beyer Fan Club now by replying to this letter with the subject: FAN CLUB! Or type f beyera@mhd1.moorhead.msus.edu for info on how you can join!*** ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: SG newsgroup Ok peoples... I belong to the SG newsgroup as of tonight. I checked out some of the posts, and here's a couple of the more interesting ones: - -------------------------- Subject: CHRIS AND BEN... MARRIED? From: afrazier@nc5.infi.net (FELIX) Date: 4 Mar 1996 01:45:53 GMT Message-ID: <4hdi0h$h7b@nw003.infi.net> Don't even BEGIN to accuse me of starting this rumor. My friend, usually reliable, told me that on 103 WKDF, a local rock station, they announced that Ben Shepherd and Chris Cornell flew to Hawaii to be MARRIED because "that's the only state that allows same sex marriages." First of all, I know that california allows same sex marriages. Second of all, I thought Chris was married to Soundgarden's marriage. I mean this guy was serious. He has absolutely NO sense of humor, so I know he's not playing a joke, so someone, please, someone TELL ME THAT THIS IS NOT TRUE! Evidence is needed. Peace and thanks in advance. - ------------------------------------------ Now THAT was interesting, huh? Read on... - ------------------------------------------- Subject: Soundgarden's lead singer comes out!!!!! From: raverj@airmail.net (J Poe) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 03:39:49 GMT Message-ID: <4i590u$lmi@news-f.iadfw.net> That's right he's out.............. in leading national gay mag: True Ten Soundgarden's lead singer leaps out of the musical closet. He joined lead singer of Faith No More in the pioneering of hard rock male stars who come out. SUCK ON>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - -------------------------------------------- That guys sounds rather bitter about something. Or maybe he was just having his own private wet dream about Chris... ah well, totally understandable... Shroom ------------------------------ From: OponFam@aol.com Subject: Just putting my two cents in I would prefer an all Soundgarden show too, in a small venue. Those are the best because the feeling is more intimate and the band seems more comfortable too. Carlyle wrote >> Next subject. Driving 4-5 hours to see a 45min Soundgarden set. All I can say is do it! Ive seen them twice(On the Louder than Love tour, and Superunknown) and even if they played one fucking song it would be worth it. << I agree 100%. We've even gone to shows where Soundgarden backed up another band just to see Soundgarden and then leave because we weren't interested in the headlining band . I've seen them at least 5 times and loved every minute of it (except for when they play a song that's been in heavy rotation on MTV and you see all the "video generation fans" come to life because they don't recognize any of the other stuff) One more thing. Shroom : >> And then I signed off. Comments people? I'd love to hear 'em!! I can't imagine Chris acting like that. That chick sounds like she thinks she's really something and just wishes, or mistook someone else for him. Just cause he was on the guest list doesn't mean it was him. I've heard him cut down girls who are trying to get into his pants at concerts, and groupie types in general, so I find it really hard to believe he would act like that. I would have loved to have been her if it was him though. Gotta go. I'm really glad this list exists. ------------------------------ From: carlyle@anthro.utah.edu (Shawn Carlyle) Subject: various soundgarden ramblings Finals are finally over so I thought I would reply to a few things which have been "debated" over the digest the past few weeks. Forgive me if Im a little behind... Daveste wrote typical bullshit about how PJ has "sold out" by getting soft. Personally, I think that Ten was their wimpiest album. Songs like "Spin the black circle" etc etc. are obviously much more hard core (as someone has already noted). If you dont believe me, perhaps you should go see them live--they kick ass, and every song they play is given a much harder edge. As to the Pumpkins--more bullshit, Zero is perhaps the hardest song theyve ever done. In general,a band has to keep evolving--otherwise they become a parody of themselves (re: ACDC, Sabbath). While Im prepared to agree that songs like Black HS, and Fell on Black days are "softer" than earlier material, they are also more complex (lyrically) and have a lot more "texture" (musically). How many of us can imagine a song like BHS on Louder than love? Next subject. Driving 4-5 hours to see a 45min Soundgarden set. All I can say is do it! Ive seen them twice(On the Louder than Love tour, and Superunknown) and even if they played one fucking song it would be worth it. Ive come to realize that such events are very rare and you should grab them while you have the opportunity. Ive spent lots of hours on the road following the dead (RIP), phish, and rush--Ive never regretted it for a minute due to the people and places one gets exposed to...I live in Salt Lake ( a favorite stopping place of SG apparently), and plan on going to S. Calif, and colorado--anyone semi-interested should do the same..who knows, you might even get to meet the infamous Shroom girl...(I hope she's packing) About bootlegs. Where, how much, and why. Never, never, never pay more than $25 for a bootleg. Get Goldmine, track down the boot dealers (theres over 15 currently advertising), and be patient. The same boots can be had for anywhere between $20 and $35 (per disc), depending on which dealer you choose. I agree that the tapes are out there...but tapes wear out, and dubbing can be notoriously shitty, so get the CD's of the shows that are worth it. Unfortunately, in terms of SG, there arent a ton of good boots out there. I think the reason for this is that SG plays so goddamn loud. I booted them in Ogden (see the homepage, I got a C+), but they played so loud the whole arena was literally shaking--believe it or not the tapes sound better than they did at the time. Even the KTS boot "Crown of Thorns" sounds like shit, again probably due to sheer volume--youre going to be dissapointed if you spend $70 for this 2CD set, but $40 is at least reasonable...Before you spend your money, check out the boot guide on The SG homepage, its 95% accurate, and you can get a good idea of exactly whats on the CD youre thinking about Someone was asking about the Lolla dates, there is an unnoffical Lolla homepage which is listing all of the (preliminary) dates, gleamed mostly from the mettalica page, I think... Anyway, back to grading... Carlyle@anthro.utah.edu ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 65] ***************************************