From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 3 Mar 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 03:14:21 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Sunday, 3 Mar 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Liz Phair-Why SGers like her Re: Les' playing Re: Voice sample Britpop shirt layout Guitar tabs Siamese Fighting Fish Re: Re Layne & Chris Re: Guitar tabs Liz Phair v. Alanis Morrisette (aka: Duets w/C.Cornell) Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 29 Feb 1996 Re: Les' playing, the universe and everything Re: Official Website New Mail id Reading 95 Bootleg Re: Official Website female vocals Guitar tabs Re: Les' playing, the universe and everything Spoonman )@. xx|| q[k' nx||'??? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Liz Phair-Why SGers like her SE> By the way, there has been a lot of polls regarding every related SE>aspect to Soundgarden, but has there been a poll for favorite album cover? I like the Badmotorfinger cover. That's my favorite logo. And I love the way the writing is on that one. And on Loudest Love, Chris looks like a girl, or like he has tons of white make up on to do a Kiss cover, or something. And Matt looks like a girl, too. Nothingman -Those musta been in his gay days. ;) ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Les' playing MJ> I don't think that I can agree with this. Yes, Les may be a better bass MJ>player than Flea, but Yngwie (hairspray) Malmsteen is a far better player MJ>than someone like Kurt Cobain, but Yngwie will never write songs as good MJ>as Kurt's. Les can't play Flea's music better than Flea, because Flea MJ>wrote it and vice versa. If it sounds good, and you like it, that is all MJ>that matters, not whether or not the musicians are better than everyone else MJ>That's all I have to say about that. I think I better go now. Ths is the whole point we were trying to make. People don't take the player's talent into consideration when they vote for the best whatevers. They just say, "Oh, I love that band, so I'm gonna vote for everyone in it." I know Flea would come close to Les talent-wise, but Les wins. He rules the bass, and everything associated with it. Just like Chris rules the vocals (and songwriting). Nothingman -Tightrope walkin' in two tons shoes. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Voice sample 76>PS- I got a new Siamese Fighting Fish today and I want either a SG or PJ 76>name, any ideas? How about Nothingman? Nothingman -It just has a ring to it. :) ------------------------------ From: The Stranded Subject: Britpop >>Seriously, though - It's not the music thats fake, they (Oasis and >>Blur, at least) believe in what they're doing and all.... But we did >>that stuff already. Anyone remember that group 'The Beatles' or >>something like that??? >Oasis sound like the Beatles. Blur have some tracks that sound like the >Beatles. But what about the rest of the so-called britpop scene. >Pulp,Radiohead, Elastica, BlackGrape etc. They don't all sound like >the Beatles. I specified blur and oasis in brackets. Those others you mention are good, original bands. Even pulp, whose tunes I don't like, get respect for being so good at taking the piss out of thier fans. The problem lies with the british pop scene. It needs to be destroyed and rebuilt in a shape that moves with the times, but also doesn't shit on truly great acts such as SG - as though they were just the next //pool of piss-shallow\\ pop group. The UK music scene is one of the most varied and inspiring on the planet and I would like to state for the record that all MUSIC lovers (you know who you are) would get off on the variety of quality tunes we are lucky enough to have. Britpop is not the way to advertise it. My apologies for the page pollution, Peace to all on a black day. The Mailman. ------------------------------ From: The Stranded Subject: shirt layout Just checked out Ben Timberlake's layout on the h/p... I don't know about anybody else but I rekon this is really good. It uses a lot of artwork from the homepage, embodying something special to now - here - us - type stuff. Also it has the full address, which I also think is a sound idea 'cos of the same reason. So f#?king what if it has 'soundgarden' on it. Good work, Ben :> //<<<<>>>>\\ in the SuPeRuNkNoWn. The Mailman. ------------------------------ From: el@algonet.se (Erik Lundsten) Subject: Guitar tabs Hello! I was just wondering where I can get the tabs for Soundgardensongs. Last time I checked the OLGA was down. I'm thinking of putting all the Soundgarden tabs I can find on my website. I've got most songs of the Superunknown album and I'm mainly looking for BMF tabs. Greatful for any help. - -Erik: The one who lives while others lie. ------------------------------ From: el@algonet.se (Erik Lundsten) Subject: Siamese Fighting Fish Foxymophandlemama wrote: >PS- I got a new Siamese Fighting Fish today and I want either a SG or PJ >name, any ideas? Dirty Frank is an idea if it's a male(can you tell the different). Maby Animal or why not Spoonman. You could offcaurce name it after any of the members in the bands.(kindof boring) Hey I've just come up with this great name: BadMotorFish!!! By the way what does a Siamese Fighting Fish look like. - -Erik: The one who lives while others lie. ------------------------------ From: S0undgardn@aol.com Subject: Re: Re Layne & Chris In a message dated 96-03-01 12:53:16 EST, you write: >When I was in school(long time ago, about a year or so) me and some friends >had this discussion almost every day. >So I was glad when someone brought this up. >I would rank them like this: >1.Chris Nothing to argue about >2.Eddie Just listen to Hungerstrike >3.Layne Very powerfull voice. >What do YOU think? > > I couldn't agree more. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Guitar tabs From: seth > I was just wondering where I can > get the tabs for Soundgardensongs. > Last time I checked the OLGA was down. http://www.ee.fit.edu/users/northcut/TABS/ http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/tabs/ seth ------------------------------ From: Gregg Subject: Liz Phair v. Alanis Morrisette (aka: Duets w/C.Cornell) I would love to see Liz Phair do a song w/SG or Cornell. The main reason being, she is one of the few female rockers that i respect and admire. Alanis MOrrisette just plain sucks. She goes around whining like Trent Reznor's neglected little sister and has the world handed to her. I saw her perform "You Oughta Know" live on Dave Letterman's show, and she was AWFUL! She has a horibble, annoying voice which she has no control over. It fluctuates all over the place. She had no talent when she did "You Can't Do That on Television" and she has no talent now. Gregg "Water!" "What?" !!!!!! !!! _ _\ !!! . .|_ "Don't come over here and piss on my gate, !(# __) save it, just Keep It Off My Wave" !! ===| --My Wave, Soundgarden !\_= O | \==/ melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net ------------------------------ From: Gregg Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 29 Feb 1996 BY the way, do any of you guys >know any mailing lists for the STONE TEMPLE PILOTS? If you do, please >e-mail me at dpanares@ignacio.cs.xu.edu.ph. If anyone DOES know, please e-mail me also. thanks. Gregg !!!!!! !!! _ _\ !!! . .|_ "Don't come over here and piss on my gate, !(# __) save it, just Keep It Off My Wave" !! ===| --My Wave, Soundgarden !\_= O | \==/ melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Les' playing, the universe and everything At 11:23 01/03/96 -0800, Matthew wrote: >>>RE: Les Claypool vs Flea >> Yes, it is hard to compair them, but if they switched roles, who do you >> think would be better at it? I'll bet Les could play Flea's parts >> better than Flea can play Les'. Know what I mean? > > I don't think that I can agree with this. Yes, Les may be a better bass >player than Flea, but Yngwie (hairspray) Malmsteen is a far better player >than someone like Kurt Cobain, but Yngwie will never write songs as good >as Kurt's. I had to comment here on this one as to how some people look at songs a different way to others. I don't know Yngwie Malmsteen's work too well, but while Kurt Cobain's songs have emotion, they have little going for them technically. There isn't one song of Kurt's that I can't drum to and give me a month on my guitar and I'll be playing them on guitar too... his chord progressions were not innovative, but all of his songs were based on bar/barre chords - Kurt himself admitted that. I'm not flaming, I like Nirvana, but I disagree with the notion that Kurt Cobain could be any standard in music writing (except for the lyrics) and I certainly don't like Nirvana for the technical skill alone... >Les can't play Flea's music better than Flea, because Flea >wrote it and vice versa. If it sounds good, and you like it, that is all >that matters, not whether or not the musicians are better than everyone else. True, which is why I like AC/DC - simple stuff sounding good. But there is always the side of me wanting something complex to listen to...and that's where my love of Faith No More and Soundgarden kicks in... However, when you're trying to compare musicians, it has to be done on a technical basis. People like myself (and I don't know how many of you are out there) analyse musicians because individual skills of players can be incorporated into your own playing and you become a more rounded player for it >That's all I have to say about that. I think I better go now. Nah, stick around! Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Official Website Whilst talking about the official website, the menu.html file seems to have been replaced and is now fully working...check it out at www.imusic.com Jackhammmer. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ At 16:50 01/03/96 EST, seth wrote: > >> Yeah, what the hell is that swirly stuff? Only Netscape seems to >> recognize. Neither Internet Explorer2.0, nor Mosaic2.0 recognized it. >> It couldn't be Java could it? I've never seen Java that complex, but I >> haven't seen alot of java at all. > >No, it's just a CGI script, "animate" if I remember correctly. It >could actually have been done without scripting; check out the >excellent spinning Badmotorfinger wheel on URB@NO's homepage: > > http://yoda.ccm.itesm.mx/~al703635/main.html > >seth > > ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: New Mail id To whomever cares, Please send all mail for mrl5@lehigh.edu a.k.a."ClownWithBazooka", a.k.a, "Muhammad Lee" a.k.a. "That annoying person who sends out too much email" to dao5@lehigh.edu. Thank you. Clown/Mo =============================================================================== -So your super-connected now, your hair full of glass. Throw your clothes in the hallway.... Just a sheet on your back. Belly ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Reading 95 Bootleg Does anyone have a copy of the Reading 95 bootleg with great to decent sound quality. Sorry Euphorics/Foreshocks, but the sound on the one i got from you is pretty bad. I appreciate the effort :). If anyone does have a good copy, please e-mail me. Thanks Gregg "Don't come over here and piss on my gate. Save it, ___________ just keep it off my Wave" --My Wave, Soundgarden | | | Soul Sick | "Go avay or i vill taunt you a zecond time" anonymous |___________| French man. melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Official Website From: seth > Whilst talking about the official website, the menu.html file seems to have > been replaced and is now fully working...check it out at www.imusic.com I have an explanation for that swirly stuff: the guy who was doing the page accidentally dumped the index.html from the Garbage homepage project into the Soundgarden directory. As Jackhammer said, it's been fixed, so the page now works. seth ------------------------------ From: jjevans@direct.ca (The Masochistic Minstrel) Subject: female vocals i kinda think that jane siberry has a really good voice, just listen to "it can't rain all the time" at the really climatic part and she just kinda flies...she might not have the wail of chris but she could balance him out on the slower songs...i can see them doing FoBD... justine[the little drunken girlie that doesn't have much to say] and whoever was talking about the diverse musical taste of sg fans...i'm an obvious example of this, andything from leadbelly to 54-40 or maybe our lady peace, r.e.m. sg or fleetwood mac and a whole lot more... - -and the women cry, and the children moan...and when i'm lonely, i lie awake at night, and i wish you were here, i miss you...can you tell me, is there something more to believe in, or is this all there is, and the pounded feeling, in the streets below and a window breaks and a woman falls there's something wrong...- ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Guitar tabs EL> Hello! EL> I was just wondering where I can EL> get the tabs for Soundgardensongs. EL> Last time I checked the OLGA was down. I ftped to a place...ftp.uni-stuttgart.de Is that the place you're talking about? When you go into the guitar directory, it says it's not working due to something or other, but it works. I have downloaded plenty of tabs from there in the past couple days, so it works eben though it says it doesn't. EL> I'm thinking of putting all the Soundgarden EL> tabs I can find on my website. EL> I've got most songs of the Superunknown EL> album and I'm mainly looking for BMF tabs. I have plenty of acurate SG tabs. Tell me what you need, and I probably have it, or can get it. Nothingman -The most important fool you forgot to see. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Les' playing, the universe and everything E9>I had to comment here on this one as to how some people look at songs a E9>different way to others. I don't know Yngwie Malmsteen's work too well, He's a hell of a guitar player, but he thinks he's better than he really is. But he's still damn good. What's the difference between Yngwie and God? God doesn't think he's Yngwie. E9>while Kurt Cobain's songs have emotion, they have little going for them E9>technically. There isn't one song of Kurt's that I can't drum to and give me E9>a month on my guitar and I'll be playing them on guitar too... his chord E9>progressions were not innovative, but all of his songs were based on E9>bar/barre chords - Kurt himself admitted that. Which is one reason I like Nirvana...I can play about all of their songs. But they make them sound good...at least most of them. E9>However, when you're trying to compare musicians, it has to be done on a E9>technical basis. People like myself (and I don't know how many of you are E9>out there) analyse musicians because individual skills of players can be E9>incorporated into your own playing and you become a more rounded player I totally agree. I might not like Yngwie's music, but I'll be the first to admit that he's freakin' awesome on a guitar. And Kurt Cobain might not be the most technical player, but he writes good lyrics, and at least half decent songs, but he puts emotion into it, and it rules because of that. He even said once, about live performances, that he didn't care if he hit all the right notes, as long as put his all into it. And then there's Soundgarden, who has the technical and emotion all combined into 4 people. Nothingman -Wash your women in your whiskey when your future's in the past. ------------------------------ From: "Chill E. Dog" Subject: Spoonman Hey, my first post....how cool... I go to Mississippi state U, and PLay drums and guitar, so anyone that wants to jam, let me know....it's abuot all I do...anyway, I was wondering, on that love broadcast from Vedder's house last year, SG played the FOBD demo, Kyle Petty, and some fast, punky songs..i was wondering what the names of those songs were....also, on 667(i think) on Ultramega OK, has anyone listend to Chris' reversed screaming on a 4 track to play it forward? I've been wondering what he was saying......ok, that's all. BTW, did anyone else know that the ultra-talented(HA!) Coolio's real name is Artis? interesting coincidence...... ------------------------------ From: ShRooMGrLz@aol.com Subject: )@.xx|\| q[k'nx|\|'??? Yah... Layne's got a good voice... but I like Jerry's vocals better. Quite a few of my friends like to sit around and argue whether or not a certain person makes a band. For instance, most of them say that Chris IS Soundgarden, and that any of the other guys could leave the band, but SG would still exist. But if Chris left, SG would be no more (obviously). Same goes for Eddie and PJ. But the general opinion on AIC is that if Layne left AIC, Jerry could take over all of the vox with no problem. I agree totally. Anyone disagree? Another re-occuring conversation is regarding cartoons. If Kim was a cartoon, who or what would he be? Ben? Personally, I think Ben would make a perfect muppet (one of those grumpy old men who sit in the balcony... the perfect place to spit from). I kind of see Chris as Bugs Bunny... don't ask me why. I just two just connect in my mind. I'm just twisted, I guess. Anyone else see Eddie Vedder as Droopy Dog? Whoah... to much thinking (or lack of) going on here. Ummm... yah... Shroom girly... the ginchiest fungi on the list... ***I made ya get down on your hands and knees... *** Chris Cornell | |.| |.| |\./| "She drinking my Jack Daniels |\./| and smokin' all my weed" .\ |\./| /. ~~Andy Wood, MLB \-.\ |\\.//| /.-/ \--./\ |\\.//| /\.--/ \--.| \ |\\.//| / |.--/ \---.|\ |\./| /|.---/ \--.|\ |\./| /|.--/ \ .\ |.| /. / _ -_- \ \\ // / -_- _ - -/_/_/- | | -\_\_\- - /_\ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 52] ***************************************