From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 2 Mar 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 03:00:04 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Saturday, 2 Mar 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: RE: Soundgarden fanbase Re: Mere Mortals & Blondes Re: Layne & Chris Uncovered Touching a piece of history..... Re: Les' playing Re: Les' playing Re: Rubberband Ben Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 29 Feb 1996 (Fwd) Re: Layne & Chris RE: Reply to hands of the slaves... (Fwd) Re: Soundgarden fanbase album covers Connecticut Connection Re: Les' playing Uncovered Re Layne & Chris Liz Phair-Why SGers like her Voice sample Re: Les' playing Re: Official Website travel guide Re: Official Website T-shirt more shirt stuff... Re: Voice sample RE: Soundgarden fanbase hi Re Layne & Chris ------------------------------------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: RE: Soundgarden fanbase E9>PS. Does anyone else out there get really bugged by the later part of Rusty E9>Cage where the song starts jumping between 3/4 and 5/4 with no apparent E9>pattern? Geez it stuffs my rhythm every time! That's why you just tap your foot to the beat (since it doesn't change, just the # of beats per measure), and don't worry about the 3 and 5. That way, you'll keep up without worrying about counting numbers in your head. It makes it a lot easier. Nothingman -That is, if you are talking about the same part I'm thinking of. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Mere Mortals & Blondes CA>>I have to come out of my hermit-dom and say this: it IS possible for a CA>>mere mortal to create a fork necklace. I daresay mine is, in fact, CA>>BETTER than Cornell's. *The fork was prettier* CA>Good on you Kate. I like Chris Cornell. I like Soundgarden. I like Forks. CA>But I would never call him/them God...........CC is a person like the rest CA>of us! Don't put him on a pedestal, please - that's probably the last thing CA>he'd want! :-) Yeah. Isn't that what he was trying to say on Jesus Christ Pose? CA>>It was nice to finally check out a member directory with familiar names CA>>on it. Very nice to see everyone's picture. MF-- you're so pretty! And CA>>so BLOND! (wow. i'm amazed. i've never known a blond person who likes CA>>SG... how's that for superficial on my part!?) CA>Ha ha - yeah believe me, I know all the dumb blonde jokes. But there are CA>some good sides to us too: don't you know that Blondes Have More CA>Fun.............and Gentlemen Prefer Blondes??!! :-) And I most definitely CA>like SG. There must be more blondies on this list though who are with me CA>here......... Well, I have brown hair, but I had it bleached last summer, and I know that I've been having more fun since. And I like Soundgarden too, but gentlemen don't prefer me. :) NothingMAN -Ok, I really bleached it because I wanted to b the butt of everyone's jokes. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Layne & Chris CA>>I don't think he comes close. Ok, he's got a good voice, but he CA>>doesn't have the range and power of Chris. Personally, I think Eddie CA>>Vedder would be a better choice than Layne, because Eddie's got more of CA>>a range, but not the power. But he's emotional as hell, you've gotta CA>>give him that. But Chris blows 'em all away. CA>I agree with you, Nothingman. But what wins for Alice in Chains is their CA>uniqueness. Not many bands sing harmoniously like that. However, while I CA>like quite a few AIC songs, I personally [ducking for cover here] don't care CA>much for that sort of vocal sound. Give me Chris, or even Eddie, any CA>day.............. Yeah. AIC do some great harmonies. I especially like the harmony in No Excuses, because it sounds so freakin' cool. But Soundgarden does that too, they just usually have one voice louder so the others are harder to hear. Fourth of July for example. And I listened to Polly by Nirvana for some reason tonight, and it has some cool harmonies too. Nothingman -Polly wants a cracker. I think I should get off her first. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Uncovered CA>I wish Chris would sing more like that in his deep voice. If you like that deep voice of his you should listen to Ultramega OK more. He sings deep quite a lot on that. Like in Mood for Trouble, I think...or is it Beyond the Wheel? Ok, I know it's Beyond the Wheel, but for some reason I can't remember Mood for Trouble. But anyway, in Beyond the Wheel, he starts low, and each verse, he gets higher...and higher, until he BOOM! wails like a banshee. I love it. Nothingman -Boy, I hope I was talking about the right song, or I'll feel like a dolt. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Touching a piece of history..... SW>track. The inside part of the CD (The actual plastic hole) differs with the SW>north american one I have.. in that the north american is clear with the SW>name Soundgarden - Superunknown, while the UK version is red. Is that SW>standard for all the CD's that have "She Likes Surprises"...is the plastic SW>hole area red with the actual CD a black vinyl motif? just curious.... One of my friends have a copy that is the same as mine, without She Likes Surprises, but the middle, where it says Superunknown, is silver. Weird. Nothingman -But then he went to college, and now he listens to that college whiny music. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Les' playing BT>nothingman, you disappoint me. Do you really think Les Claypool is BT>better than Flea? Have you ever heard any of Robert Trujillo's stuff BT>from Infectious Grooves? In my opinion, a 'best of' winner does the best BT>of anyone, within a musical context, and in my opinion, musically, Primus BT>ain't all that. It seems like, no matter how talented he is, Les is BT>always just jerking off his bass. just my $.02 BT>-buying lies, and stealing jokes, laughing every time I choke- Ok. I have an Infectious Groves CD, and Trujillo is pretty damn good. And Flea is good too. But Les is just freakin' awesome. I mean, I have the Tommy the Cat video, and to see him play that is just great. He does everything there is to do with a bass. You just mostly see bass players pick out notes, but Les doesn't do this, and Flea and Trujillo don't either, but Les just seems to add so much character to his playing. Primus may not be the most talented band around, but they have one of the best bass players, and their drummer isn't all bad either. And they have a pretty unique sound. Nothingman -Strawberry, raspberry, boisenberry, that's my jam. ------------------------------ From: "Max W. Kraemer" Subject: Re: Les' playing On 1 Mar 1996 rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > BT>nothingman, you disappoint me. Do you really think Les Claypool is > BT>better than Flea? Have you ever heard any of Robert Trujillo's stuff > BT>from Infectious Grooves? In my opinion, a 'best of' winner does the best > BT>of anyone, within a musical context, and in my opinion, musically, Primus > BT>ain't all that. It seems like, no matter how talented he is, Les is > BT>always just jerking off his bass. just my $.02 > BT>-buying lies, and stealing jokes, laughing every time I choke- > > Ok. I have an Infectious Groves CD, and Trujillo is pretty damn good. > And Flea is good too. But Les is just freakin' awesome. I mean, I > have the Tommy the Cat video, and to see him play that is just great. > He does everything there is to do with a bass. You just mostly see > bass players pick out notes, but Les doesn't do this, and Flea and > Trujillo don't either, but Les just seems to add so much character to > his playing. Primus may not be the most talented band around, but they > have one of the best bass players, and their drummer isn't all bad > either. And they have a pretty unique sound. > > > Nothingman > > -Strawberry, raspberry, boisenberry, that's my jam. > I don't know if you can say that Primus is not one of the most talented bands around. They are actually all really good musicians, but on some of the more popular stuff by Primus (i.e - Sailing the Seas of Cheese or Pork Soda) features more of Les Claypool than Herb (the drummer) or Larry (the guitarist). Frizzle Fry, Miscellaneous Debris and Tales from the Punchbowl are a little more balanced. I also think that the comparison between Flea and Les Claypool is, in some respects, difficult to make since both Primus and RHCP are two totally different types of bands and, therefore have two different bass players. Flea is more of a funk bassist while Les Claypool plays more of a progressive rock or jazz style. I kind of disagree with both of you as to who is the better bass player because I think that their playing styles are difficult to compare. At the same time I can agree with both of you because I feel that both excel in their own area of music. Max ------------------------------ From: "Max W. Kraemer" Subject: Re: Rubberband Ben On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, marqie wrote: > I just finished watching Louder than Live for the third time and I have one > question... Does Ben have any bones? I have never been to a Soundgarden > concert. (I plan to remedy that sad situation this summer.) Ben hops, > jumps, skips, bounces, and rolls across stage like a demon. Which > according to some of you he may be. > Are there any videos from the Superunknown tour? > > I also think Mailman is a under appreciated song. I believe that SG fans > are unique. At this precise moment I have Louder than Love and Ani > DiFranco's Not a Pretty Girl in the CD player. > I saw Soundgarden about a year and a half ago at Red Rocks (near Denver, CO) and Ben made some moves that no ordinary human is capable of. As for any videos of Day I Tried to Live tour, I don't know if there are any. The video for My Wave has footage that looks a lot like the Red Rocks show, but, for all I know, most outdoor venues could look alike. I could just be hoping that I was there when they shot the video. Max ------------------------------ From: c.burge@ic.ac.uk Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 29 Feb 1996 Cheers for the daily newsletter, quite entertaining but a bit fucking long, any chance of taking out the interesting bits and sticking them on the web page. Also whats the deal with these T-shirts M Subject: (Fwd) Re: Layne & Chris >I agree with you, Nothingman. But what wins for Alice in Chains is their >uniqueness. Not many bands sing harmoniously like that. .......they can pull it off live too. That's cool. > However, while I >like quite a few AIC songs, I personally [ducking for cover here] don't care >much for that sort of vocal sound. ..I do (did that rock I lobbed hit you???) > Give me Chris, or even Eddie, any >day.............. .......just gimme Chris. I'll have Eddie for pudding..... >Or give me Bernard Fanning from Australian band Powderfinger. Now HE'S a >cool vocalist! .......Powderfinger...named after the Neil Young song?? ------------------------------ From: "W.N. Foppen" Subject: RE: Reply to hands of the slaves... > blind dog wrote: >> sorry urbano, but this is a shocker. there is no way I could wear >> the tshirt without thinking of a bunch of guys who are working in a >> sweat shop for two bucks a day. slave labour is not the way to go. > OK, OK, not to start WWIII here but I had to reply... > Listen Blind Dog and Fxymopwathever, earning two bucks here IS NOT > considered slavery. C'mon I never expected a reply like this! I noticed > no one cared about the idea, but please don't come up with this... > > As a matter of fact, there are 70% chances that the computer you used to > send me that post from was actually built by somebody who earned that > much or even less... and so are your clothes and your toys and even > some of the food you eat. I live in a third-world country and here the > minimum wages are that low... 80% of us earn that and some earn even > less than two bucks a day... why don't you think huge companies > com here to Mexico and manufacture their goods here? Because > they're sick of paying their own people?... people here don't have much > money not because they don't wanto, but because the government desn't > let them climb higher... I've never liked that and I would > something if I could... blind dog, I've always admired you because of > you accurate points, but this time.... OK OK, no hard feelings :^) I think you good some damned good point here, it's absolutely no good NOT to make use of your offer, if you don't use it those people get nothing at all, not even the two bucks, but it all goes again to people who all ready have a good living... So if you don't still don't feel good about it, why not pay those people double to make it, make it 5 bucks or 7... cheaper t-shirt (if they still are cheaper then... i think so) and we support these people... does this make sense ?... i hope so... if not... ignore me... - -------------------- "born to quit" smoking popes - -------------------- ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) Re: Soundgarden fanbase >With some of the people I know.. They aren't that interested in Soundgarden >because they think it's just another "Seattle" band.. .........which is pretty silly because there's such a lot of variety within the ''scene'' . I reckon.Blame the media...... Beck ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: album covers After people were talking about the differneces in the liner notes/cd design of different versions of SU, it reminded me of something whic is probably a bit boring but which I will mention nevertheless... My copy of BMF had a red/black sleeve. But my friend has one with a green/yellow cover. Same design, different cover,. hmmmmmmmmm.. Beck ------------------------------ From: "Christopher M. Farley" Subject: Connecticut Connection I just accepted a new job in S. Windsor Connecticut.(Near Hartford). Is = there anyone on the list from that area. I just wanted to know some = clubs to go to or just info about the area in genereal. =20 Thanks Buddha ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Les' playing MW> I also think that the comparison between Flea and Les Claypool MW>is, in some respects, difficult to make since both Primus and RHCP are MW>two totally different types of bands and, therefore have two different MW>bass players. Flea is more of a funk bassist while Les Claypool plays MW>more of a progressive rock or jazz style. I kind of disagree with both MW>of you as to who is the better bass player because I think that their MW>playing styles are difficult to compare. At the same time I can agree MW>with both of you because I feel that both excel in their own area of MW>music. Yes, it is hard to compair them, but if they switched roles, who do you think would be better at it? I'll bet Les could play Flea's parts better than Flea can play Les'. Know what I mean? Nothingman -And then there's Chris Ballew, the best damn basitar player around. :) ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Uncovered FO>RC>If you like that deep voice of his you should listen to Ultramega OK FO>RC>more. He sings deep quite a lot on that. Like in Mood for Trouble, I FO>RC>think...or is it Beyond the Wheel? Ok, I know it's Beyond the Wheel, FO>RC>but for some reason I can't remember Mood for Trouble. But anyway, in FO>RC>Beyond the Wheel, he starts low, and each verse, he gets higher...and FO>RC>higher, until he BOOM! wails like a banshee. I love it. FO>RC> FO>RC> Nothingman FO>RC> FO>You had the right song, but Mood For Trouble is the one where it's FO>really fast and it has a cool bassline at the end and Chris is talking FO>about not wanting to kill or something. It's a cool song.. FO>foreshocks FO>(but then again, what Soundgarden song ISN'T a cool song???) All I can remember of Mood for Trouble is the cool acoustic at the beginning. But it is one cool ass guitar part. One of my favorites by Soundgarden, and it's on an acoustic! Weird. Damn, I wish I had Ultramega OK on CD. Then it wouldn't be in my car. Nothingman -I did not want to kill. ------------------------------ From: el@algonet.se (Erik Lundsten) Subject: Re Layne & Chris >At 12:02 AM 29/02/96 EDT, Nothingman wrote: >I don't think he comes close. Ok, he's got a good voice, but he >doesn't have the range and power of Chris. Personally, I think Eddie >Vedder would be a better choice than Layne, because Eddie's got more of >a range, but not the power. But he's emotional as hell, you've gotta >give him that. But Chris blows 'em all away. =20 When I was in school(long time ago, about a year or so) me and some friends had this discussion almost every day. So I was glad when someone brought this up. I would rank them like this: 1.Chris Nothing to argue about 2.Eddie Just listen to Hungerstrike 3.Layne Very powerfull voice. What do YOU think? ** If my mailserver fucks it all up one more time I=B4ll get really mad and start screaming LOUD! =E5=E4=F6 -E R I K ------------------------------ From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) Subject: Liz Phair-Why SGers like her Hey all- Kelly posed a good question 'Why do a lot of people on this list seem to dig Liz Phair?' I think the reason is simple:her lyrics are as straightforward as Soundgarden, and her attitude sort of fits well into the personalities of some people on this list. Another reason is that Soundgarden fans, most of them, don't necessarily follow one type of music. At a given time in my CD player, you'll probably see 'Louder Than Love' mixed with Public Enemy, Bjork, Liz Phair, Cowboy Junkies, Firesign Theater, Tori Amos, Rush or The Clash. By the way, there has been a lot of polls regarding every related aspect to Soundgarden, but has there been a poll for favorite album cover? My vote would have to go with 'Louder Than Love', the cover basically is a reflection of the album. Chris Cornell's hair covering his entire head and holding wires of a microphone, great cover. The optical illusion of 'Superunknown' is a close second, it took me a month to see that if you turn it upside down, its a burning forest. A statement regarding the rape of the once tight, uninhibited Seattle scene? You make the call. Laters peace Sean ------------------------------ From: el@algonet.se (Erik Lundsten) Subject: Voice sample Hi you Soundmaniacs!(I mean no offence) I=B4ve have checked out the memberlist and looked at some pictures of you. If you are a male vesion of the human race dont read next 2 lines! I wont mention anybodys name but some of you looks great! While reading info on you all I come to think of this: Would=B4nt it be great if everybody could send in a sample of their voice, it=B4s kind of dull reading your mail without knowing how you sound. I guess this would mean extra work for someone(seth) but I=B4d appreciate it a lot. Am I the only one that have thought of this idea? Am I a genious?(well maby not) What is Soundgarden up to right now? Do anyone actually know this because I dont need any of the old rumors. ER I K The one who lives while others lie. ------------------------------ From: Matthew Subject: Re: Les' playing On Fri, 1 Mar 1996 rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > MW> I also think that the comparison between Flea and Les Claypool > MW>is, in some respects, difficult to make since both Primus and RHCP are > MW>two totally different types of bands and, therefore have two different > MW>bass players. Flea is more of a funk bassist while Les Claypool plays > MW>more of a progressive rock or jazz style. I kind of disagree with both > MW>of you as to who is the better bass player because I think that their > MW>playing styles are difficult to compare. At the same time I can agree > MW>with both of you because I feel that both excel in their own area of > MW>music. > > Yes, it is hard to compair them, but if they switched roles, who do you > think would be better at it? I'll bet Les could play Flea's parts > better than Flea can play Les'. Know what I mean? I don't think that I can agree with this. Yes, Les may be a better bass player than Flea, but Yngwie (hairspray) Malmsteen is a far better player than someone like Kurt Cobain, but Yngwie will never write songs as good as Kurt's. Les can't play Flea's music better than Flea, because Flea wrote it and vice versa. If it sounds good, and you like it, that is all that matters, not whether or not the musicians are better than everyone else. That's all I have to say about that. I think I better go now. Matthew. ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: Official Website Yeah, what the hell is that swirly stuff? Only Netscape seems to recognize. Neither Internet Explorer2.0, nor Mosaic2.0 recognized it. It couldn't be Java could it? I've never seen Java that complex, but I haven't seen alot of java at all. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Thu, 29 Feb 1996, seth wrote: > > > Has anyone tried to access the Official SG website recently? I just > > tried and it wouldn't let me in. But there is a new front door. There > > is swirling smoke on the screeen. It's very cool. I guess they're under > > construction once again. > > Yeah, what is that swirly stuff? > > It does seem that menu.html is missing, so we can venture no further > into the Official SG site until they fix it. However, I don't know how > much of it has changed since a few days ago. Most of the files that > used to be there are still there (band.html, fanclub.html, tour.html, > albums.html, new.html (I think these were the 5 that were linked from > the old index.html)). Some of the new files, like band-faq.html, which > just appeared recently, are also still there. Of course, none of this > means anything, because it's just as likely that they won't use any of > these files. My guess is that the old index will be renamed to > menu.html, accessible via the new swirly front door. > > On a side note, the link to the site from Rocktropolis now uses > imusic.com instead of rocktropolis.com, so I guess it will only be in > one place from now on. Not that _finding_ the link from Rocktropolis > was easy... > > seth > > ------------------------------ Subject: travel guide From: seth Since the Official Soundgarden website is currently in s state of disrepair, as the front door leads nowhere, here's a handy dandy travel guide to some things that exist there now, and may or may not exist when the page reaches its final stage: BAND INFO http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/band-faq.html 1995 TOUR http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/tour.html WHAT'S NEW http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/new.html DISCOG http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/albums.html COMPILATIONS (the link from the DISCOG doesn't work) http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/albums-co.html SIDE PROJECTS (the link from the DISCOG doesn't work) http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/albums-pr.html FAN CLUB http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/fanclub.html seth P.S. - Their lyrics pages are not bad (though they are often quite incomplete, especially for Ultramega OK); I've found that much of what they have there makes a lot more sense than some of the things that we've decided on, and fills in a lot of the blanks for us. There are also a lot of lyrics there that I _know_ are not in the songs, so I don't know exactly what their source was. And yes, Chris really does sing about Edith in "She Likes Surprises." :) ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Official Website From: seth > Yeah, what the hell is that swirly stuff? Only Netscape seems to > recognize. Neither Internet Explorer2.0, nor Mosaic2.0 recognized it. > It couldn't be Java could it? I've never seen Java that complex, but I > haven't seen alot of java at all. No, it's just a CGI script, "animate" if I remember correctly. It could actually have been done without scripting; check out the excellent spinning Badmotorfinger wheel on URB@NO's homepage: http://yoda.ccm.itesm.mx/~al703635/main.html seth ------------------------------ From: Heather Aston Subject: T-shirt About the t-shirt. I like the fork I idea, but not the slogan "Posting with my good eye closed." I don't know why, I just don't. As for color, how about oatmeal? Yes, oatmeal. It's not white, so it isn't boring, but it isn't gray, so it won't look all gross after it's been washed a few times. I forget who suggested it, but Iike the idea of putting the quote from Kim on the shirt- "Damn right I'm argumentative." As someone mentioned, it sums up the essence of this list. ------------------------------ From: Michael Wayne Cornell <00204185@bigred.unl.edu> Subject: more shirt stuff... >Hey everyone..... >I think we have a pretty good base for what >we want on the T- shirt... >1. The word "SOMMS" (not w/mit.edu) printed somewhere on the shirt. maybe in the front??? >2. A picture of the famous "end of humanity" twisted fork. definitely a must have... >3. The phrase "Posting with our good eye closed." definitely on the >back! Yahoo for list subscribers!! >Choosing the color will be a different story, >but if those three items are on >the shirt, I don't give a crap WHAT color it >is as long as I can see 'em! >Anyone agree with me?? > >Kazam I agree 100 percent. This shirt thing is probably the coolest thing that's happened to me since I got the CD+. (Really exciting life, huh?) BTW, I think that Layne Staley is (forgive me) just as good a vocalist as Chris Cornell. Their styles are just completely different. His songwriting skills, etc. are obviously no where near Chris's (but who's are?). Everyone take it easy... - --Mike Cornell (maybe somewhere down the family tree...who knows?) ====================================================================== "I should have stayed in bed.." --Soundgarden 'The Day I tried to Live' ====================================================================== ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Voice sample One, I think the voice idea is great, I guess it's about time to send in my member directory addition w/ picture, huh? Last I heard, (early Feb.) they're in Stone Gossard's new studio putting the finnishing touchson the album, I'll go look for the article, it has some of the song titiles in it. - -Mophandlemama "It's a really great feeling knowing that Stone is asleep in the next room." - -CC PS- I got a new Siamese Fighting Fish today and I want either a SG or PJ name, any ideas? ------------------------------ From: AMACDONA@fogelson.csf.edu(MacDonald Aaron) Subject: RE: Soundgarden fanbase > E9>PS. Does anyone else out there get really bugged by the later part of Rusty > E9>Cage where the song starts jumping between 3/4 and 5/4 with no apparent > E9>pattern? Geez it stuffs my rhythm every time! > > That's why you just tap your foot to the beat (since it doesn't change, > just the # of beats per measure), and don't worry about the 3 and 5. > That way, you'll keep up without worrying about counting numbers in > your head. It makes it a lot easier. > > Nothingman oh man.. that's a perfect example of using odd times in a totally musical sense.. and it's really something Soundgarden does better than alot of people.. (Matt Cameron is awesome..)... It's a repeating pattern, but it's not 'butt rock' or whatever.. it rocks.... ------------------------------ From: SuPeRuNKNoWN Subject: hi Being new to the list and on an isolated island (New Zealand) where the only music channel is Max TV which plays mostly pop stuff... Would anyone care to explain the meaning of the twisted fork to me??? Thanks! - -- ********** I woke the same as any other day except a voice was in my head. It said seize the day, pull the trigger, drop the blade and watch the rolling heads... ********** ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re Layne & Chris EL>I would rank them like this: EL>1.Chris Nothing to argue about Nope, not a thing. EL>2.Eddie Just listen to Hungerstrike Yeah, he does a pretty good job, and he compliments Chris very well. He's emotional as hell in Black, too. Just listen to the whys at the end...when i hear it, it just depresses the hell outta me, but I'm usually depressed when I listen to that song anyway. EL>3.Layne Very powerfull voice. Powerful as in the impact it makes on me, but not as in the strength of his voice. I guess he's ok with the strength, but after hearing Chris wail a while, he doesn't come close. I like the way he makes a song sound eerie. Like on that song where he sings, "Sweet angel, you should have run." And Jerry does a great job with the guitars on that song, too. Nothingman -It's the end of the world as we know it, and Elvis is dead. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 51] ***************************************