From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 29 Feb 1996 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 00:32:41 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 29 Feb 1996 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: in my eyes... Soundgarden fanbase (Fwd) RE: Female singers (Fwd) Matt's drumming Re: everything... To Nothingman... Artis pix happy anniversary To URBANO... t-shirt slogan Wow female singers & tees......! RE: (Fwd) RE: Female singers free your mind Re: I've seen how you give it . . . t-shirt: spec. "somms@mit.edu" head hurricane! Re: T Shirt payment re : Female Singers T-Shirts Guess (t-shirt) Mailman MATT CAMERON IS AWESOME!!!!!!! To Nothingman... list memories... I WANT AN XL SHIRT! how??? Badmotorfinger Polls Sign me up for a T-Shirt! ffffffffft. (Fwd) Re: I've seen how you give it . . . Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 28 Feb 1996 member directory RE: Soundgarden fanbase RE: Matt's drumming shirt RE: Soundgarden fanbase Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 28 Feb 1996 Badmotorfinger shirt Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! Super Secret Password Re: Leslie Seth Don't Read This Post Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! NAME?? Re: Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! I WANT A SHIRT Another one for the FAQ Re: Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! hands of the slaves... continue to contaminate your bed... Liz Phair THE SHIRT!!! Happy Birthday - Flutter Girl Re: hands of the slaves... Re: Happy Birthday - Flutter Girl ------------------------------------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: in my eyes... S3> btw, chris is the one playing all the verse riffs of black hole S3>sun. kim thought it sounded too dinky, so he only comes in on the chorus. S3>is that how he feels about the whole song? :) It is a dinky song (guitar riff-wise) compaired to other Soundgarden songs. Kim rules, and so does Chris, but Chris doesn't rule as much at the guitar, so if Kim wants him to play the dinky part, let him play the dinky part. :) Nothingman -I wish they would let me play the dinky parts. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Soundgarden fanbase BT>If I can be slightly elitist for a moment, BT>I would say that the soundgarden fan is a step above your average rock fan. BT>It takes an appreciation of something special to really enjoy soundgarden. BT>There are many people who can hear a few songs on the radio, say "cool." BT>and buy the album, but it's a special breed who enjoys looking deeper into BT>the music and lyrics and would bother subscribing to a list serv just for BT>that purpose. Soundgarden is well-known because great music is always BT>going to be noticed. They are not, however, the most popular band around BT>_because_ of that special appreciation that not everyone has. BT>I'm also a pink floyd fan, and this discussion has come up on Echoes (the BT>pf listserv) about pink floyd. I would venture that the same reason BT>applies. This is so true. You deserve to be an elitest. Also, bands like Soundgarden don't conform to what's "cool" at that time, which makes them even harder for those non-diehard fans to like all the time, which is why we have to endure fad after fad of bands like Green Day and Hootie. Willie Nelson is like that too (like SG, I mean, not Green Day). I realized this when I bought the Twisted Willie CD. It rules. Buy it now. It's a bit countryish, even the song Kim is on, but it still rules. Jerry Cantrell does an excellent song, also. BT>There's also consideration to be made for variety of musical taste: look at BT>Seth or Urb@no and I'm sure many others who have widely varied tastes. BT>So, you can give yourself a smug little pat on the back for being such a BT>cool person as to appreciate Soundgarden. I think, the broader range of music you listen to, the more you will appreciate all music. And then if you play music, you will appreciate it even more. One day you might catch me playing jazz on my trumpet, the next I might be jamming Soundgarden on my guitar. And all while I'm listening to SG, Miles Davis, or even BB King. Nothingman -Now I need to learn to play Soundgarden on my trumpet. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: (Fwd) RE: Female singers RK> But for some reason, I just don't RK>think female singers are usually as powerful as male singers (even though I RK>a girl myself...not that I can sing at all)....I mean, a lot of RK>female singers have great voices but I think Chris would overshadow RK>just about any woman (or man, come to think of it) with that RK>screech..... It's a thing we trumpet players call "intestinal fortitude" in mixed company. But what we really mean is "balls." Most girls suck on a trumpet, as do some guys, but I have seen a few good female trumpet players. I guess it's the same way with singers. Chris must have the biggest balls of all, then. And I didn't mean to sound sexist in any way, it's just some observations that have been made. RK>>Their second album was more mellow than their first, so she couldn't RK>>belt out the lyrics like on the first, except on Zombie. But she does RK>>have a good voice. RK>.......I liked their first album better. She has a great voice RK>though.......but I would say that nearly all my favourite singers are RK>men. For some reason I don't like too many bands that have girl singers. I think it just seems this way because there are so many more bands with male singers. I like a certain number of male singers, but I probably like the same amount of female singers, proportionally. I dunno, I must be on crack. Nothingman -The stars are raindrops looking for a place to fall. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: (Fwd) Matt's drumming RK>....but I know it sounds good (the drumming, not what I say)...Why RK>does Matt never get into 'Best Drummer' catergories in Rock Mag polls RK>(over here, at least)?? Lars ALWAYS wins, and although I think RK>Metallica are a great band, Matt is a way better drummer than Lars RK>is. In my opinion........ Because it all goes back to that 'what's cool' thing you were talking about before. It's also why Flea always wins best bassist over Les Claypool...and I've never even seen Ben on that list. People don't look at the actual talent, they just look for who's popular at the time, and maybe pretty good. The guy from Prong said it best. "95% of musicians think that just because they've got talent they'll make it." While I'm on the subject of Prong, Tommy Victor once said, "...we knew that Soundgarden was the next big thing. But at that point, six years ago (it was 1987 that he's talking about, when SG was playing for the guys at SST), the Sub Pop thing was already boring. It took 7-8 more years for it to be solidified by the rest of America." Nothingman -Kinda now, kinda wow, eat me. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: everything... MO>Huh? Where is there profanity? Big Dumb Sex, sure. But where else other MO>than nowhere? You forgot Kyle Petty. And now, regarding the shirt... MO>ACTUALLY heather grey is the cheapest, next comes white and black, then MO>other more funky colors. Did I just say funky? You just said funky. And what the hell is heather grey? MO>> -Maybe me and Moony should have our own shirts... MO>NothingMoon shirts....hmmmmm... Funny, my best friend's nickname is Mooney. MO>>Nope. It's "I'm a search light soul they say, but I can't see it in MO>>the night." Says so right in the album. MO>Whoops...Thanks for catching that...Searchlights solely say? Where did I get MO>that from? Hmmm... You need to lay off the crack, man. :) MO>>can anyone tell me if soundgarden, pearl jam, guns'n'roses, or MO>>metallica are coming out with any new albums soon, and if so, MO>>WHEN! MO>Pearl Jam - The May release date has been pushed back to August. Didn't they do that a bazillion times with Vitalogy? MO>G N'R - Get with the 90s...GNR is done for. :) At least Axl is. But I dunno...I think I'll miss the poor guy. MO>Metallica - New material. They may go to the studio soon, nobody knows. I read somewhere that Metallica just kinda does stuff whenever they feel like it, but I guess when you're that popular, and put out that many albums, you can do whatever you want. Nothingman -Which is one reason Soundgarden has so much freedom with their label. ------------------------------ From: Tony Buonvino Subject: To Nothingman... I had apologized for my horrible mix up in the last digest (I think...). = Since it was such a horrible mix up, I'll resend it if you didn't see = it. BTW... Urbano said, UR>...or you are really Chris making fun of the rest of us I think nothingman IS Chris. He claims to have made a fork like Chris's = and I think we all know you can't do it if you're a mere mortal... Lates, T-Bone - -Anyone who posts as many times as nothingman has to have superhuman = powers... ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: Artis pix Sorry if this has already been asked, but can you scan them in and post 'em on the web page or something? >I was just in Seattle last week and I saw Artis the Spoonman playing the >spoons outside of SBC across from Pike Place Market. It was really cool. I >took two pictures of him playing. Benjamin Timberlake --------P O U R I N G Northwestern University --------D O W N btimlake@nwu.edu --------W I N D "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ Subject: happy anniversary From: seth the list is 6 months old today! thanks to everyone for making it a success. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: Tony Buonvino Subject: To URBANO... The January '96 issue (the one that was out last month w/Jerry Cantrell = on the cover) had tab for it. It says to tune to a dropped D and then = down half a step. I can't put the whole thing down right now, but to = give you a feel, here's the chorus: Eb-----------------------------------------------------------------------= - -------------------- Bb-----------------------------------------------------------------------= - -------------------- Gb-----------------------------------------------------------------------= - -------------------- Db----10--12--------10---12------------3/5--5--5------0---5^^^^^---7/10--= - ---0- Ab----10--12--------10---12------------3/5--5--5-------------------------= - --------0- Db----10--12--x----10---12--x--16\--3/5--5--5----------------------------= - -----0- and so on... There you go, hope it helped you out a little... Although I can't help feeling somewhat responsible for contributing to = the corruption of some poor children's minds from doing this... :) And what the hell is up with all these "=3D" that come in my posts?! Lates, T-Bone Note: I am not affiliated with Guitar World magazine or any of it's = other publications in any way... Reprinted without permission... Ipso = facto and all that other legal BS... ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: t-shirt slogan How about "Damn right I'm argumentative." - Kim Thayil sorta captures the list's spirit. Or work "Emailman" in there somewhere ('course that's kinda gender-specific) But, actually I sorta like the "PW/MGEC." (Very clever Tonerkins!) My favorite design so far is the one with the fork, "Posting With My Good Eye Closed." It's simple and has a fork. But I also like the idea of having "SOMMS@MIT.EDU" on there. I also like the picture of the pyramid (=E0 la dollar bill) and the "somms" spelled out in orange peels. Oh yeah, and I like the idea of having the BMF sparks on there. I think we should have very few _direct_ references to SG on there. That way, we don't run into copyright problems and it attracts cooler people. Think, if you're walking around with your shirt on and someone recognizes a Soundgarden _reference_ and not an actual name or title of a song, then you know you've met another SG fanatic. I'll buy one no matter what, though. - Ben Benjamin Timberlake --------P O U R I N G Northwestern University --------D O W N btimlake@nwu.edu --------W I N D "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: Ed Subject: Wow This post has nothing to do with SG, but I was just in the member directory and I have only one thing to say: Thank You Shroom Girl. Ed. ------------------------------ From: LikeSuicide Subject: female singers & tees......! Fellow Bleeders, hmmmmm......female singers eyyy?.......well....performing with the most bleeding band in all of creation.....therefore.....she should be the most bleeding female singer of all creation too............. LIZ PHAIR!!!!!!......... now i'll wait for the release.... Now the tees thing........i like... mean love the fork.................. have a question though......would the movers(of the shirt thang) be able to accept orders from asia.....specifically the Philippines? hopin' for a favorable answer....... " he who has the fork has the power " - KillYrBF(RVN) ------------------------------ From: "W.N. Foppen" Subject: RE: (Fwd) RE: Female singers > RK>>Their second album was more mellow than their first, so she couldn't > RK>>belt out the lyrics like on the first, except on Zombie. But she does > RK>>have a good voice. > RK>.......I liked their first album better. She has a great voice > RK>though.......but I would say that nearly all my favourite singers are > RK>men. > > For some reason I don't like too many bands that have girl singers. I > think it just seems this way because there are so many more bands with > male singers. I like a certain number of male singers, but I probably > like the same amount of female singers, proportionally. I dunno, I > must be on crack. Well... let me see, band with female-singers i like : Salad, Elastica, Cranberries, Seven day dairy, Breeders, Trowing Muses, Belly, Bettie Serveert, Garbage, Heather Nova (not a band, but definitely female..)... yeah i guess i quite like bands with female-singers, but then i like an awful lot of bands with male-singer too... sorry this isn't really related... ehm.. let's make it worse : > I think nothingman IS Chris. He claims to have made a fork like Chris's = > and I think we all know you can't do it if you're a mere mortal... I don't think it is a good idea if nothingman were Mr. Cornell, in that case i don't think they will ever have the time to make a new album and we wouldn't want that... :-)... still not very related... sorry... - ------------------------------ 'cruise yourself' girls against boys - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: free your mind I don't care what color the shirt is, and grey is just dandy.. but as long as it IS a solid grey.. I don't like that heather grey or the white with black dots all over it at all. Sorry :> Just my opinion ..anyway, I saw a commercial for that UltraMega stuff again the other day.. that cracks me up. I wish I knew what the hell it was for.. foreshocks ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: Re: I've seen how you give it . . . > but I think mailman deserves a lot more recognition than that, as >it is a damn fine song. I agree. When I listen to mailman with the headphones on, I swear I can hear the spit drops coming from chris's mouth and getting caught on his beard. Especially on those 'f's and 's'es. (Ooh wow, more Cornell bodily fluids, exciting, huh shroomgrl? ;)) - Ben Ben Timberlake --------P O U R I N G Northwestern University --------D O W N btimlake@nwu.edu --------W I N D "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: t-shirt: spec. "somms@mit.edu" Something about that "To" field gets me excited every time I type "somms@mit.edu" in it. Every time I see received mail from the same address, a little part of me doesn't care what the rest of the world is doing at that moment. To quote from disney, somms@mit.edu: "what a wonderful phrase . . . it ain't no passin' phase." Why does this t-shirt have to last forever? Life is by nature ephemeral, as may be this listserv, but we can celebrate it as we know it now by putting "SOMMS@MIT.EDU" on the t-shirt. It's not like we're going to forget that this was the address somms started on. I just don't think plain old "somms" is as cool as the whole address. I feel like i've delivered a eulogy. Anyway, I would really like "somms@mit.edu" on there, but I'm gonna buy the shirt no matter what. - Ben Ben Timberlake --------P O U R I N G Northwestern University --------D O W N btimlake@nwu.edu --------W I N D "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: head hurricane! Hey, how about this? All this talk about shirt color made me think, We'll never get everyone to agree on one color. Can we have people _Send_ their choice of t-shirt to where the shirts are printed or to some list rep? Then, apart from the actual design, it's a freedom of choice thing. Plus, people will still be identifiable by the design on the shirt. Finally, it will add some assurance that people will stick with it because they'll have a shirt invested in it. Random stuff I thought of while catching up on ten days of the list: What Chris actually said about his fork was, "The end of humanity and all of mankind as we know it." I got that from the SPINOnline transcript. I just wanted to point that out before we put something else on a t-shirt. I think "Charcoal or ash" would be a good color for the t-shirt. Okay, don't get me wrong here, but I don't really want the word "satan" on my shirt. I'm not religious or anything (in fact, I'm agnostic), but I also like the simplicity of SOMMS. Plus, the thing I said about actual song titles (or album titles). Bent spoon would definitely be cool. By the way, I really do want this t-shirt. Who better to design a soundgarden t-shirt than their fans? I guess, short of actually making them I'm willing to help as much as I can to get these things made. >TW>What is the meaning of life? -Nothingman?? Over to you.. > >If I remember correctly, it's 42, and people don't wear enough hats. >And also cheese is good and Soundgarden rules. Yes! Douglas Adams reference. Cheese _is_ good. Look at all the cutlery in SG: Chris's fork, spoonman, There's gotta be something about a knife somewhere. I'm too lazy to think of something right now. There's dropping a blade, but that's not quite right. - Ben - Soundgarden: The best thing that's happened to utensils since silver (huh huh, Susan silver) Ben Timberlake --------P O U R I N G Northwestern University --------D O W N btimlake@nwu.edu --------W I N D "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Re: T Shirt payment A money order is probably the easiest way. It costs a buck or two to get one, and it's just like a cheque. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, URBANO wrote: > Anybody willing to help me? > As you know I live here in Mexico and... well... I've never ordered > anything by mail so I don't know how the hell I might send $15 to > anywhere... any ideas? And perhaps I might as well order to somebody > that copy of the CD+? Please somebody help me before the shirt is > made... > URBANO > > Some thoughts after writing that: > "Damn peso... if I do this I might go hungry for a month... " > "I don't care." > ______________________________________________________________ > The aim of every artist is to arrest motion, > which is life, by artificial means and hold it fixed so that > a hundred years later, when a stranger looks at it, > it moves again since it is life. > - William Faulkner > ------------------------------ From: Joco Agostinho Subject: re : Female Singers Hi All! Don4t start beating me ok? :) But what do you guys think about Chris doing a duet with that Montserrat Caballi lady (the one that sings Barcelona with the late Freddie Mercury) i think that that would be very cool, and im pretty sure that Chris4s voice won4t overshadow that one. - -- "I'm not fine, fuck pretending" - L.S. |Write always, Write soon | C-ya!! ------------------------------------------ | | | Por/By: Joco Agostinho (Layne) | | E-MAIL: mailto:joao.alex@mail.telepac.pt | | URL: http://www.geopages.com/paris/3276 | | | | Olhao - Algarve - Portugal | | | ------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: "Christopher M. Farley" Subject: T-Shirts I was on the SOMMS list for about 3 months and needed to free up my = e-mail so I got off. I am now back on the list and want info on the = shirts. I just didn't want anyone to think i was a hiro-come-lately. = How can I view the possibilities for designs? Some one had metiontioned = just having vague SG references on the shirt like just the = 'SOMMS@MIT.EDU' and a cool pic. That sounded pretty cool. I don't know = how elaborate you plan on getting but How about a small logo on the = front upper-left area with the address and on back a big pic with a real = big address along the bottom. Someone please fill me in. Buddha ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: Guess (t-shirt) I did a little design on dummy shirts and sent them to seth. They're just compilations of other designs. On the front pocket is the spark that is on the web page. I used this because it's sort of an unofficial SG symbol even though it's from a specific album (sort of like the Grateful Dead's Steal Your Face). Also, sort of tacked on is a poor imitation I did of Chris's skull. I couldn't get a copy of the cursor icon from the CD+. If anyone else can or can do a better version, by all means, go ahead. I also thought about the color. Natural is definitely the way to go, because otherwise, the stuff (mostly the fork) just isn't going to show up. Though I still support the sending your own shirt idea. On the back of the shirt is the "Posting w/MGEC" superimposed on the fork, and at the bottom is the black letter tape "SOMMS@MIT.EDU," also from the web page. If we don't want the word Soundgarden on the front (even very small), we could take that off and superimpose the skull on the spark, leave the spark by itself, or put the spark with some other word. Anyway, I want the shirt to be good, but I think we should get it going while we're still excited about it. Dammit I should be doing homework or sleeping or something. - Ben Ben Timberlake --------P O U R I N G Northwestern University --------D O W N btimlake@nwu.edu --------W I N D "If I should be short on words and long on things to say, could you crawl into my world and take these words away?" - Chris Cornell, "Seasons" ------------------------------ From: stranded@skynet.co.uk Subject: Mailman ON 28th feb - Blind dog wrote: Subject: I've seen how you give it... >just writing in to share my thoughts on a very underrated >soundgarden song from superunknown. not very many people talk about it, unless >they want to know what it's about (we think/know it's about the killing spree >that u.s. postal worker went on in his hometown after he was fired), but I >think mailman deserves a lot more recognition than that, as it is a damn fine >song. Fair play to BlindDog!! - I heartily agree with you on this subject. This tune is one of thier MEATIEST tunes. The reason why I picked it as my handle, as a matter of fact. BlindDog, consider yourself a wise man. PS. COPYRIGHT LAWS SUCK SATANS COCK! The Mailman. ------------------------------ From: dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Thrak) Subject: MATT CAMERON IS AWESOME!!!!!!! I have to agree with the guys talking about Matt Cameron on the last digest...he is one of the best drummers around. One quick question to one of the guys who wrote that though...you said that "he couldn't have gotten that high end crack with just his ride cymbal and some good mixing"...I found this puzzling. Did you mean that what he does is not possible, becuz I know it is. I drum along with SG stuff all the time and you can get that sound from hitting the upper shaft of the stick on the ride cymbal's bell, or any cymbal's bell for that matter. I am always in awe when I listen to his work...I think the thing about his drumming that distinguishes him from a lot of drummers out there (and which also creates a certain SG sound) is his unbelievable sense of time. He can hang in a pocket with the best...his grooves are right on all the time. I think this is in large part due to his love for jazz drumming. I read about his love for jazz somewhere and I wasn't surprised...that really helps you build your sense of time and helps you to learn how to listen to other members in the band and lock in with their groove. Anyways, I don't want to talk this to death. Some of my other favorite drummers are Jimmy Chamberlain, Neil Peart, Mike Portnoy, Max Roach, Buddy Rich, Simon Phillips, Charlie Benante, and Dave Weckl. There are many more that I listen to that I probably forgot, but I don't want to bore any of the non-drummers on this list anyways...if there are any drummers out there, e-mail me...it'd be cool to talk. Later Thrak - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: To Nothingman... TB>Urbano said, TB>UR>...or you are really Chris making fun of the rest of us TB>I think nothingman IS Chris. He claims to have made a fork like Chris's and TB>I think we all know you can't do it if you're a mere mortal... Yeah, you caught me. I really have an account at aol, but I telnet to this bbs.gcc.cc.md.us place so you think I'm from Maryland, and there's no way Chris would be in Maryland, right? Right. And I cut my hair off because my wife complained that my hair was longer than hers, AND my boobs were bigger, and she said I had to get rid of one or the other. The hair it is, I said. TB>-Anyone who posts as many times as nothingman has to have superhuman TB>powers. Faster than a speeding bullet, posting with BOTH of his eyes closed...it's...it's...NOTHINGMAN! Nothingman -That's why I never have to put quotes around my quotes. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: list memories... SA>the list is 6 months old today! Wow. That's all? I though it was a lot older. I remember last summer when I subscribed when I came across Seth's page on a friend's computer because I didn't have one. I subscribed to the list anyway. But I had to read everything at school, and that was a pain. And I even unsubscribed to the right address. SA>thanks to everyone for making it a success. Thanks to you for making it. Nothingman -I've been looking for a reject. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: I WANT AN XL SHIRT! DA>t-shirt, which sucked. i think something more or less neutral like black DA>or dark blue or maroon would be best...IMHO. I think maroon would work good. But we'd have to make sure the letters would still show up. DA>who is wearing his homemade cornell fork right now. (i made it DA>two years ago, and it still freaks the family out) I'm wearing one. I made it a long time ago, and it still freaks my family out, too. And people I've never seen before will just walk up to me, grab it, and look at it for a while, and eventually ask, "Is this a fork?" or something stupid like that. Nothingman -No, you dolt, it's a spoon. -Hey, Danno...hundred.acre.woods.net? Is it a Winnie the Pooh thing? ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: how??? LO> i was just thinking. if there are about, what, 500 subscribers to LO>the list....(right?) i'm sure that more that one fourth of us play LO>insturments (guitar, bass, drums, trumpet, sax, banjo, sitar, whatever!!!) LO>why the hell don't some of us get together and play some music LO>together?!?!?!??!?!?! LO>ok, ok, i know, some of us live on a far off desserted island or something, LO>and can't get together because of how far people live from each other....... LO>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That would be cool. 100 of us Soundgarden fans, sitting in a big room, and playing Soundgarden on our favorite instrument. And I guess the other 400 could sing. That way, at least the singer would has almost as much power as Chris. :) Nothingman -Now I know why you've (the room) been shaking. ------------------------------ From: Peter Scott Subject: Badmotorfinger I usually sit back and watch all the weird and wonderful postings, but I can't take any more... I'm going to put you out of your misery! Badmotorfinger is a play on words coming from the bands BADFINGER and MOTORhead. And that's the truth. Cheers, Pete. PS. why is it I just know someone will not believe me! ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: Polls >Because it all goes back to that 'what's cool' thing you were talking >about before. .....yeah. It's funny looking at the poll results from mags..the last time I saw sg in a non-musician-type mag was, uh, '94 I think...and it wasn't even winning a category, I don't think, just coming like 7th or something....... >It's also why Flea always wins best bassist over Les >Claypool.. ....yep...Flea is a good bassist but Les Claypool is just SOOO underrated...it's because RHCP get more publicity and are considered cooler than Primus, and even though RHCP are great, so are Primus!.. >.and I've never even seen Ben on that list. .......No, me neither....never. Usually in the British mags it will be Flea at the top, or Jason Newsted......I think I've even seen Cliff Burton in a poll these last coupla years and even though he was good, he's DEAD!! Ben is most definitely alive, and great. > People don't >look at the actual talent, they just look for who's popular at the >time, and maybe pretty good. .....yeh, if people like a certain band then they'll usually just nominate all the members of that band in their various categories without really thinking....... > "95% of >musicians think that just because they've got talent they'll make >it." ....hear hear...just look at the formidable UK Top 40 (the only chart that counts, THEY say).... Fashion: 20 - Music: Nil Beck ------------------------------ From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) Subject: Sign me up for a T-Shirt! Hola- Yeah, this list seems to have adopted a certain personality all of its own. A lot of the whiny, pink-boys out there that complained of getting too much mail have unsubscribed, I don't know, this place just oozes with funky coolness. Anyway, I want a T-Shirt. I think grey would be cool. X-Large. For payment, I was curious as to when you would like to receive it. Right now, I'm dead ass broke for another 2 weeks. BTW, for female singers, besides PJ Harvey to do a killer duet, someone on this list mentioned the Breeders Kim or Kelly Deal, that would be a kick ass combo. Liz Phair, probably my favorite female singer right now would also compliment Cornell's vocals. Laters Peace Sean ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: ffffffffft. >When you think about it, a lot of people (other than us) act as though >soundgarden has only had 2 albums. That's a wierd thought when you think >of Superunknown as a "Sophmore" effert. ...........Yeah.....So many people actually _ think_ that Badmotorfinger was their first. It's weird. But it's nice to be one of the 'enlightened' ... >Maybe we should do a world wide public opinion poll on soundgarden. Yeah, the results would certainly be interesting.... Beck ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) Re: I've seen how you give it . . . >> but I think mailman deserves a lot more recognition than that, as >>it is a damn fine song. ...........moi aussi. It's got great atmosphere (no, that's not the right word, but nevermind...)....I just love the lyrics... >I agree. When I listen to mailman with the headphones on, I swear I can >hear the spit drops coming from chris's mouth and getting caught on his >beard. Especially on those 'f's and 's'es. ........I can SEE the spit drops.. : ) Beck ------------------------------ From: "Terabyte" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 28 Feb 1996 Hey All, I'm new to the list, so I'm hoping that this is the address to send this to. I just have a few comments about some of the topics brought up on the Wednesday Digest (Feb 28). On the subject of the shirt...what are the chances of actually getting a pocket on it? It would be a handy place to put the SOMMS logo, plus it could double as a cigarette pack holder. Just a thought from a smoking SG fan. About the SG CD+... just a warning, the Creative Labs 6X kit, with the 6X CD drive and the AWE 32 soundcard WILL NOT read the CD+ format. I spent 15 on the phone with Corel (the makers of the drivers for it), and found that n creative labs drives recognize the format. They cannot be upgraded to read it either. Unfortunately, the whole reason I paid $400 to upgrade my 2X CD was so I could run the SG CD+. Rats, screwed again. :( Just a little spew about myself... I'm not a musician, though I often wish I could play some kind of instrument. Just wanted to tell you what I look for in music (like you guys care). I try not to limit myself to a particualr genre of music, i.e., Grunge, Heavy Metal, etc. If a band has good, hard driving guitars, a melodic singer who can wail when required to, and interesting drum beats, I'll buy it. Since I just got on this list and have no idea what bands you guys have ripped or glorified, let me throw out a couple for you... Tool, Sven Gali, Gruntruck, and this months fave... My Sister's Machine. If you haven't heard of MSM, you really, really need to pick up a copy of Wallflower. I guarantee you WILL NOT be disappointed. Of course, there's always the old stand-bys AIC, PJ (though not Vitology), MLB, and a few others associated with the Seattle scene i.e., Queensryche. Am I off-base, placing them in the same category as Soundgarden? IMHO, the only person who can come close to touching Cris in the singing dept. is Layne Staley. {Shrug} Am I out of line here? Let me know. Well, that's about....hmmm....$2.49 worth. Feel free to flame or agree. :) Oh yeah, put me down for 2 shirts. _________________________________________________________ 0 0 00 0 0 0 0 000000 I'm back down...in the Undertow 0 0 --Tool *VORTEX* __________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Subject: member directory From: seth Hey, this member directory thing is really doing well! Thanks to those of you (53 of you, to be exact) who have submitted info about yourselves and/or sent pictures. Those who sent real pictures, I'll scan them by this weekend and add them to the directory. Check it out at http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list/ seth ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: RE: Soundgarden fanbase >I think, the broader range of music you listen to, the more you will >appreciate all music. And then if you play music, you will appreciate >it even more. One day you might catch me playing jazz on my trumpet, >the next I might be jamming Soundgarden on my guitar. And all while >I'm listening to SG, Miles Davis, or even BB King. I think that another reason that soundgarden is not the most popular band on earth. Even thought they are fairly well known, is that all the people I know that listen to soundgarden have fairly diverse musical tastes. The the 4 people I know around here that are big soundgarden fans listen to all kinds of music ranging from miles davis to metallica to cypress hill to bob marley. People like that aren't around in that high a quantity, so that is why soundgarden's fan base isn't that large. Clown >Nothingman > -Now I need to learn to play Soundgarden on my trumpet. You know I have always wanted to hear rusty cage with a orchestral arrangement. Have a string section play the intro, horns accompaining. Horns playing the body of the song. Use the strings and and a upright bass for the rhythm section, while the horns play solos. That would sound incredible. Clown ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: RE: Matt's drumming RK>....but I know it sounds good (the drumming, not what I say)...Why RK>does Matt never get into 'Best Drummer' catergories in Rock Mag polls RK>(over here, at least)?? Lars ALWAYS wins, and although I think RK>Metallica are a great band, Matt is a way better drummer than Lars RK>is. In my opinion........ >>Because it all goes back to that 'what's cool' thing you were talking >>about before. It's also why Flea always wins best bassist over Les >>Claypool...and I've never even seen Ben on that list. People don't >>look at the actual talent, they just look for who's popular at the >>time, and maybe pretty good. The guy from Prong said it best. "95% of >>musicians think that just because they've got talent they'll make it." >>While I'm on the subject of Prong, Tommy Victor once said, "...we knew >>that Soundgarden was the next big thing. But at that point, six years >>ago (it was 1987 that he's talking about, when SG was playing for the >>guys at SST), the Sub Pop thing was already boring. It took 7-8 more >>years for it to be solidified by the rest of America." >> Nothingman Doesn't that just piss you off!? I am not the greatest drummer in the world. In fact I have only tinkered with them a little, but I can still play about 80% of the stuff from the black album. Me and my little brother jam on sad but true all the time, me on drums him on guitar. How much sg stuff can we play together? .. uhhh like nothing, the only thing I have really figured out is some metallica stuff. It was easy since all the songs on the black album have pretty much the same monotonous drum tracks. I wish america would start respecting talent. I am not going to watch the grammy's because I don't want to be sick when joan osborne or Alannis morrisette wins over liz phair or P.J. harvey. Clown -Kinda now, kinda wow, eat me. ------------------------------ From: Michael J Sharkey Subject: shirt Shirt! How about "Shirt" for a band name? Anyway, the T-shirt idea is really sweet. How about the BMF wheel with the fork instead of the spark plug? What are the SG shirts now available on the market? I have the white T with black collar and sleeve ends, 80's retro style,with the band pictured and outlined in silver. It's really sweet. And the superman style superunknown shirt. I heard that Chris got in a car accident and broke his arm, so some other dude filled in on his guitar riffs on the new album. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: RE: Soundgarden fanbase MR>>I think, the broader range of music you listen to, the more you will MR>>appreciate all music. And then if you play music, you will appreciate MR>>it even more. One day you might catch me playing jazz on my trumpet, MR>>the next I might be jamming Soundgarden on my guitar. And all while MR>>I'm listening to SG, Miles Davis, or even BB King. MR> I think that another reason that soundgarden is not the most popular ban MR> on earth. Even thought they are fairly well known, is that all the peopl MR> I know that listen to soundgarden have fairly diverse musical tastes. Th MR> the 4 people I know around here that are big soundgarden fans listen to MR> all kinds of music ranging from miles davis to metallica to cypress MR> hill to bob marley. People like that aren't around in that high a MR> quantity, so that is why soundgarden's fan base isn't that large. From what I've heard of people on this list, it seems that the ones who post the most (which I know most about, maybe it's just about everyone on the list, I dunno) seem to have the most diverse taste in music. I know when people look at my tape and CDcollection, they say, "Wow. You have everything." And they don't mean I have a huge collection, they mean I have everything from classical, to jazz, to classic rock, to modern rock, and even rap. MR>>Nothingman MR>> -Now I need to learn to play Soundgarden on my trumpet. MR> You know I have always wanted to hear rusty cage with a orchestral MR> arrangement. Have a string section play the intro, horns accompaining. MR> Horns playing the body of the song. Use the strings and and a upright ba MR> for the rhythm section, while the horns play solos. That would sound MR> incredible. I just might have to arrange a Soundgarden song for trumpet. Toybox suggested I figure out the Like Suicide solo on my trumpet. And orchestral arrangement for Rusty Cage would rule, but so would hearing Johnny Cash do it. Nothingman -The sun is filled with ice and gives no warmth at all. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 28 Feb 1996 From: JADAMO61@MAINE.maine.edu I hope I sent this to the right place...A thousand apologies if I goofed! I guess I'd be interested in a shirt...though I won't offer any ideas as I am limited artistically. Any info would be appreciated. Thanx....JCP ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Badmotorfinger PS>I usually sit back and watch all the weird and wonderful postings, but I PS>can't take any more... I'm going to put you out of your misery! PS>Badmotorfinger is a play on words coming from the bands BADFINGER and PS>MOTORhead. PS>And that's the truth. PS>Cheers, PS>Pete. PS>PS. why is it I just know someone will not believe me! I believe you, but isn't the song "Badmotorscooter" by Montrose thrown in there? That's what it says in the SG biography. I remember I heard that song on the radio coming home from school on the bus one day and almost shit my pants. I'm like, "Whoa, Badmotorfinger, Badmotorscooter." blah foreshocks ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: shirt My opinion on the shirt Idea definitely gray, but not light gray. I like the twisted fork, but what does that have to do with "searching with my good eye closed" How about a big roll of duct tape on the front :) (black of course) I was thinking of quotes to put on the back but I can't remember any so I'm going home. - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- jennifer ------------------------------ From: John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt Subject: Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! Seth is not allowed to read this post. so if your name is "Seth" don't read below ============================================================================= I recently sent my picture in the mail for seth to scan. I just then realized how much he does for this list and the web page. Everything we send him and suggest, he actually has to do. So, in the interest of all members, I think we should buy Seth's list T-shirt for him (in the very least). Anyone else want to add? Aaron Beyer Btw, not to be a chovanist (sp?) but Shroomgirl (10), Me (0). Wow. ============================================================================= Known Aliases ============================================================================= Henry Krinkle, Mayor McCheese, Major Heally, LaMont Sanford, Your Dad, Travis Bickell, Poncherello, Huggybear. Whenever I go out, people stand and shout . . . And kids think it's funny to yell "shit" instead of "Schmidt". My name is John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt and all be damned if it's your name, too. I got it copyrighted. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------------------ From: Eric Lanning Subject: Super Secret Password I know someone asked this the other day, but what is the super secret password for the member directory? Eric ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Leslie At 22:46 27/02/96 +0000, Matthew Paul Lawrence wrote: >I've always wondered which way the speakers rotate, is it in the X,Y or Z >axis.. I'm guessing Z (as in depth when you look at it) > > Matt All the Leslie cabinets I've ever seen have the speakers rotating about the z-axis (ie. with their centre line of rotation being vertical). Jackhammer. ------------------------------ Subject: Seth Don't Read This Post From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) I agree with John Jacob that the very least we could do would be to buy Seth a t-shirt or two. So whoever collects the money for the shirts let me know how much extra to send. nephend ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! BE>Seth is not allowed to read this post. BE>so if your name is "Seth" don't read below BE>============================================================================ I think it's a great idea. I erased it, just cause I did. So if you don't know what I'm talking about, then you weren't paying attention. Nothingman -I'll chip in a few bucks. ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@compuserve.com> Subject: NAME?? At the risk of sounding like a complete idiot to all you veterans, can someone please tell me what SOMMS stands for? Also, is there a # I can call to join the SG fan club by phone, and how do I submit to the member directory? - -Mophandlemama PS- for those of you doing t-shirt designs, I like the PW/MGEC and the fork :-) ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! I definately agree, anyone else? - -Mophandlemama ------------------------------ Subject: Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) It's okay folks, Seth will be taken care of.. Seth if you are reading this, Look deep into my eyes, you are getting very sleepy, you hear only my voice!!!! You have read nothing today about a T-shirt for you.... Now when I count to 3 you will awake and feel ready to scan a few more pictures... 1 2 3 Hi Seth, How's your day, where are you going.. Scanning good, we'll see you later.. Jamie ------------------------------ From: "920460- JUSTINE J. EVANS" Subject: I WANT A SHIRT hey, i lost carolyn's address.....please notice that i want a shirt....i am at school so i am disturbed [no nevermind, that's always...] someone once told me that i sounded like sir isaac newton when he was high. oh well..... i do want a shirt though..... justine[the great] address jjevans@direct.bc.ca ------------------------------ From: Geoff Subject: Another one for the FAQ Is there an FAQ? I haven't heard about one. We should make one. Even the name of the list is obscure enough to warrant explanation via FAQ. SOMMS, for the guy who asked, and everybody who doesn't know stands for satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas. Try to say that backwards!! Actually it's a palindrome, which of course means it says/spells the same thing backwards. Somms is the title of an e.p. which was included in a special double package with the album badmotorfinger. There are only 100 000 of these limited edition discs. Some were reportedly printed on vinyl, making them extra rare. A copy of somms has been known to go for $80-$100, and it is considered to be a good deal for under $25. BMF/SOMMS includes a disc with the album badmtorfinger, and somms, which contains 5 songs: Into the Void(Sealth) Girl U Want Stray Cat Blues She's a Politician Slaves and Bulldozers (live) That's my story and I'm sticking to it. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Seth Don't Read This Post!!!! At 04:37 PM 28/02/96 EST, you wrote: >I definately agree, anyone else? > >-Mophandlemama Yes, I'll be in that too. Smile, Seth!! :-) {I bet he read John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt's original note - how could he resist a temptation like that??!!} Carolyn the Mystery Flowerpot ******************************************************* I think I've gone insane; I can't remember my own name.....Therapy? Did you do too many drugs? - I did too many drugs.....Violent Femmes ******************************************************* ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: hands of the slaves... On Tue, 27 Feb 1996, URBANO wrote: > me) some friend of his made for him about 1000 shirts. They were awful > but my mom tells me he might do them in any quality. I was thinking that > perhaps he could do the shirts for us and just imagine how cheaper the > shirts could be made here... Think of it, the workers in his factory > earn the minimal wage which is about 2 (yes, TWO) dollars a DAY... I sorry urbano, but this is a shocker. there is no way I could wear the tshirt without thinking of a bunch of guys who are working in a sweat shop for two bucks a day. slave labour is not the way to go. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: continue to contaminate your bed... On Wed, 28 Feb 1996, Benjamin Timberlake wrote: > doing at that moment. To quote from disney, somms@mit.edu: "what a > wonderful phrase . . . it ain't no passin' phase." > Why does this t-shirt have to last forever? Life is by nature ephemeral, > as may be this listserv, but we can celebrate it as we know it now by > putting "SOMMS@MIT.EDU" on the t-shirt. It's not like we're going to good call ben. little joe and I were only speaking about that yesterday afternoon. we can't see anything bad about having somms@mit.edu, or at least anything that would make plain old somms preferable. there could be a certain vintage factor in having the entire address on the back of the shirt. it would probably look cooler, and maybe not so generic (as far as fan-designed tshirts can be generic). in the very least, it may eventually turn out to be way cooler than any other somms list shirts that might come out in the future. is there a problem (copyright) with putting mit.edu on there seth, something that would be a ripoff of your alma mater? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Kelly Christa Jones Subject: Liz Phair Sorry, this is sort of unrelated. I've been noticing lately that a lot of people on this list (myself included) seem to like Liz Phair. Does this seem unusual to anyone else? I mean, SG is considered "metal" (if I have to put a label on it) and Liz ...isn't. Why does the music of Liz Phair appeal to Soundgarden fans??? Kelly by the way, I -would- rather see Joan Osborne or Alanis Morissette win a Grammy over Liz. Do you think we will hear from Alanis Morissette in 10 years? Maybe on "The Big 90's" on VH1! ------------------------------ From: Tony Buonvino Subject: THE SHIRT!!! I must agree with the natural colors... IMHO a medium brown color would = be cool... And what's the fork gonna look like on there? (I think it = said somewhere that it was posted ont he web, I'll go surfing a little = see if I can find it so I can see but...) I don't know if anyone saw my = suggestion in an earlier post because of the MAJOR FOBD faux pas I had = in there, but I thought it would be cool if the fork necklace would be = printed on there... Like the strap running up and around the neck so it = would look like we had one just like the real thing (that sounds so = wanna-be, but still, it would be cool)... I also think Seth has a good = point with just putting the SOMMS on there rather than the whole address = and then of course the postingw/my... =20 There's my two cents... T-Bone - -I'd like an XL SOMMS shirt and a small fries, please... ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Happy Birthday - Flutter Girl Was anyone on this list born on 29 February???? If so, Happy Birthday!! Fancy only getting the chance to celebrate your birthday every four years. At least you stay young............. And just to get the subject back on Soundgarden, what EP, b-side, single, soundtrack?, (whatever) does Flutter Girl appear on? That is one helluva great song, and thanks to Jamesetta I've now got a demo version of it on tape. But I'd like to purchase it on CD, if at all possible. Can someone give me some info on this, please? Carolyn la Milagrosa Faena (I didn't forget, Urbano!) ******************************************************* People should be pissed off for lack of knowledge.....Violent Femmes I'll ride the wave where it takes me.....Pearl Jam ******************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Foxymophandlemama <76345.3722@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: hands of the slaves... have to agree on that one, there's no way i could wear a shirt like that, knowing where it came from. i also like the idea of having @mit.edu on the end, it gives a sense of immortality to it :-) love mophandlemama ------------------------------ From: John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt Subject: Re: Happy Birthday - Flutter Girl The only place I have seen Flutter Girl is on my "Stolen Prayers" Bootleg and it is definately demo quality. But someone a long time ago said it was released to the fan club (KOTST) after the movie "Singles" came out. It is definately one of my favorite songs by soundgarden (It is my roommates fav, and he kid's it's their only good song). But, hey, if you find out different, tell me too. ============================================================================= Known Aliases ============================================================================= Henry Krinkle, Mayor McCheese, Major Heally, LaMont Sanford, Your Dad, Travis Bickell, Poncherello, Huggybear. Whenever I go out, people stand and shout . . . And kids think it's funny to yell "shit" instead of "Schmidt". My name is John Jacob Jingleheimer Schmidt and all be damned if it's your name, too. I got it copyrighted. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 49] ***************************************