From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 14 Feb 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 14 Feb 1996 00:59:52 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 14 Feb 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Transformers Re: SOMMSBOMB cda faq (fwd) Re: holy bible on the nightstand next to me... Re: seasons tuning Re: SG on Encarta Re: SG on Encarta What's this? Re: holy bible on the nightstand next to me... (Fwd) Re: Black Web Re: Black Web Re: BHS is about cottage cheese! (Fwd) Soundgarden vs England (Fwd) kinda boring but Re: Black Web Re: SOMMSBOM SOUNDGARDEN RELEASE DATE Re: Talking about Seattle release date on my b-day! see that smile... here's the news you've been waiting for Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 13 Feb 1995 Re: holy bible on the nightstand next to me... Re: AAAAAAAAAGH! Ghoul (fwd) Re: Let Me Drown re: AHHHH! Talking about Seattle SOMMS for sale!!! SG's New Album??? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Kelly Christa Jones Subject: Transformers I know that this in not SG related, but there has been more than one post on the Transformers. That wonderful TV show is on the Sci-Fi channel. I just got it added to my basic cable, so I don't know how long it's been on, but I'm very happy about it. Here in Arizona, it's on at 6:30 AM (!) Kelly On Sun, 11 Feb 1996, ward brandon t wrote: > I'm with whoever said they would sing Transformers. That was my favorite > cartoon, and I think Chris Cornell is a Decepticon in disguise. GI Joe > maybe. (But I don't really think so) Or Thundercats, but definitely not > the Snorks. just my $.02 > > > > > > Now, if only Soundgarden also sang a song on this album, then I might even > > buy it. What Cartoon/Saturday morning show theme would they be likely to > > cover, if indeed they'd actually do such a thing? Comments? > > > > Keep smiling, Soundgarden fans, > > > > Carolyn the Melodic Fiddler > > ********************************************************* > > It seems that no matter how much I drink, I seem to still stay sober.....VF > > I'm feeling that I'm sober even though I'm drinking.....SG > > ********************************************************* > > > > > ------------------------------ From: mailman Subject: Re: SOMMSBOMB In fact, if everybody who has a copy of somms sends me email with SOMMSBOMB as the subject, I will count. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: cda faq (fwd) Well, all you people With ?'s about the CDA, here you go, notes from a FAQ: > > INDECENCY > Indecent material is sexually-explicit material which may be offensive > to some or may be considered by some to be inappropriate for children, > but which is protected by the First Amendment. > What are some examples of "indecent" content? The most famous example > probably is the George Carlin comedy monologue that was the basis of the > Supreme Court case _FCC_v._Pacifica_Foundation_ (1978). Had to have this here, cuz George Carlin rules. > Under the CDA, it would be criminal to "knowingly" publish such material > on the Internet unless children were affirmatively denied access to it. > It's as if the manager of a Barnes & Noble bookstore could be sent to > jail simply because children were able to wander the store's aisles and > search for the racy passages in a Judith Krantz or Harold Robbins novel. Yeah! > PORNOGRAPHY > Unless this is deemed as "obscene", this is Constitutionally protected > as well. So, there you go, nothingman. > MYTHS SURROUNDING THE (CDA) COMMUNICATIONS DECENCY ACT > M = Myth, R = Reality > > M: The government is the best person to tell me what my child can see. Is it just me, or is this the biggest bullshit line you have ever heard? > R: Parents are the best people to evaluate what they want their children > to see, whereas government censors are probably the least appropriate. > In _Wisconsin_v._Yoder_ (1972), the Supreme Court acknowledged that the > right of parents to determine what is appropriate for their children is > Constitutionally protected. > This is for you mailman: > M: This will encourage other countries to extradite their citizenry back > to the US, if the citizen violates this law. > R: Non-US citizens will be theoretically liable if they commit any > element of the crime in the United States (e.g., if the indecent > content reaches a minor in the United States). Normally, this > theoretical liability won't translate into an actual attempt at > prosecution unless the defendant has a high Noriega Quotient. (There > has to be strong political pressure backing the prosecution.) > speech even when it > is intended to be ``annoying'' ... is a Constitutionally-protected > form of speech. Yeah! > For example, if you wrote a letter to your Senator about his or her > poor vote on the Exon bill, you might intend to annoy him. Good idea. Anyone know where i can get detailed info on which way the senator's besides exon and leahy voted? > M: The CDA says you're liable only if you "knowingly transmit or > make available" this information to a minor. If you ask everyone > on your system their age, won't this keep you from being liable? > R: No, it is a reasonable assumption that someone might not be telling > you the truth. Simply asking age would not be strict enough measures. Now this is a little difficult to believe. Your sposed to ask for someone's id over the internet i guess, before you talk to them in indecent speech. Well, help this cleared up any question's. For a complete FAQ, you can find one through http://www.cdt.org This isn't the url where the FAQ is located, but it can get you there. Hope this was some help. -j ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: holy bible on the nightstand next to me... despite what we all know about SG, how great a band, how great the music, and how cool the members are, they don't seem to get the kind of public support that a lot of bands get. on 89X, which is probably the best, and definitely the original alternative music station in the detroit area (out of windsor, heard as far away as winnipeg and chicago on occasion), they have a kind of call in battle of the bands thing like every night, or at least every weekend, and SG was on two inghts this weekend, and got their asses kicked by the likes of the beastie boys and nine inch nails. ministry also holds some of the top spots on the contest. they did beat out smashing pumpkins, but i found it really surprising how, in a town that really does have a big rock crowd, and is one of the best places in the country to see bands, new and old, that the attraction and obvious charms of Soundgarden are passed over. i guess there's just no accounting for taste. okay, i totally lost the point of my reply. what i was going to say was i think that ministry has a bigger fan base than soundgarden in a lot of places. for sure al jourgensen does, since he's in like twelve different projects, all of them successful to varying degrees. either way, in the reality of this sick universe, i do think that SG would be opening for ministry on a tour, although i really don't think that SG should be opening for anyone. i don't think anyone in the world would have the balls to follow SG's act. the doctor ------------------------------ Subject: Re: seasons tuning From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > On Mon, 12 Feb 1996 JALLEN4115@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU wrote: > > > Hey! What's up everybody? It's a lot easier on your guitar if > > you just tune to open-E (ebeg#be) and put a capo on the first fret. > Dammit, now i have to buy a capo. Or even safer for your strings is to tune way down to DADF#AD and cape 3rd fret... Or just play it way too low.. It doesn't matter :) > > You're > > liable to bust some strings tuning up to F. > Not Ernie Ball's!!!!! Which reminds me, anyone on the list used any of > those deep freeze treated strings ghs is selling? I heard it was usualy a bad idea to tune ANY string up higher than a whole tone.. (as in up to F# on the E string) but maybe I'm wrong :) > > Has anyone else out there though > > t that a lot of on-line guitar tabs are totally way off? > Well, i don't like Cherry Lane's songbook transcription of FOBD. > Guitarworld's version seems much better to me. What tabs are way off? > Not all of us are professionals or have perfect pitch, you know. There are 2 ways of playing FOBD.. The difference being the C chord.. On the album it's a straight C major triad but on the video it's C5.. I like the album version better myself, but that's just my opinion :) > > I have the BMF and > > Superunk books and generally trust those, cuz they usually reflect what SG > > has stated in interviews, but some of the internet guitar transcribers should > > get a clue, or an ear. I was rocking out on Head Down today. I also play > > it acoustic while my roommate plays bongos. > Wish i had a musical roommate. Well, i might next year. But bongos > would be cool. Almost as cool as chimes. -j I wish I had a room mate like that, mine just sings out of tune to bad dance songs at the top of his voice.. Then again, I probably annoy the fuck out of him trying to play Soundgarden songs on a classical guitar.. heh heh heh. > Matt ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SG on Encarta From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > > > >>TH>I found something interesting today...on the Encarta Multimedia > Encyclopedia > >>TH>there is a one minute sample from a SG song under the guitar heading... > >I saw it under rock music or something that was not guitars too, i think > it's the same song, i've seen them both, just wasn't paying much attention. > >Justine[never knew the rules] > > > Yeah, I found that too, it's Nothing to say. There are only a few references to rock music on encarta the two I remember are Soundgarden and Elvis Costello. Kinda weird choice to represent the whole of rock music.. But I'm not complaining.. (Didn't Chris say something in one of the online interviews about Soundgarden being the official Microsoft band or something.. Could this be true??) Matt > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: SG on Encarta From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > The song to which you are referring is Nothing to Say off of Screaming > Life I believe. I am not near my discs so I can not say 100%, but I can > say 99% that it is off Screaming Life. Yeah.. Screaming life :) Matt ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: What's this? >Has anyone else heard about the short summer tour Chris Cornell's small >side project the Unborn is planning? ...........where did you hear of this? Is it (once again) something the under-acknowledged music fans of the UK do not have access to (silly question I suppose....) Beck ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: holy bible on the nightstand next to me... But aren't most of the Ministry fans locked up in insane asylums? Or perhaps they've made a voyage to other planets. Just kidding! I dig Ministry. But seriously, I think SG has a bigger fan base because of, well, a certain 3-letter acronym that begins with 'M'. I mean, how often to we see Ministry videos? TV is what reaches and converts the most people..... Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > for taste. okay, i totally lost the point of my reply. what i was going > to say was i think that ministry has a bigger fan base than soundgarden - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "But in your heart I'd freeze." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) Re: Black Web >the phone or the post.. Or are they next? Are they gonna start reading people >letters to make sure they don't say fuck, or maybe they'll only read letters >addressed to under 18s. Maybe we should write president@whitehouse.gov and >suggest that... >Matt .........yeah.....and then they'll probably make random visits to people's houses and shoot all the people who swear in front of minors.....BLOODYHELLTHEWORLDISGOINGCRAZY!!!! Beck ps I heard that in this country the police can listen in to people's fone lines at random to see if they say words like 'dope', 'gear', 'grass' etc.......but only the houses of suspected dealers....but, still, if they can do this, then what's to stop them listening in to what anybody says???? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Black Web From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" This whole censorship thing.. (non related but fuck it) What makes the net so special that they can censor it but they don't censor the phone or the post.. Or are they next? Are they gonna start reading people letters to make sure they don't say fuck, or maybe they'll only read letters addressed to under 18s. Maybe we should write president@whitehouse.gov and suggest that... Matt ------------------------------ Subject: Re: BHS is about cottage cheese! From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > It's true. I remember a while ago everyone was speculating on the meaning of > the lyrics to BHS. Could it be about heroin? several people asked. It's > about empty, shallow, suburban life, one person opined. Well, we were all > wrong! It's about cottage cheese. Chris even said so in RIP magazine several > years ago. There. Mystery solved. ;-) > Of course!!!! Chris ate some cheese before he went to bed and dreamt the song up.. Suddenly everything becomes clear!!! Matt ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) Soundgarden vs England >> What's wrong with England's government (other than England hates Soundgarden :) >Nah mate - it must be the other way round - that's why we get half as much sg material as you-lot-over-the-pond 8) >Andy >(Nah = No, mate = friend, you-lot-over-the-pond = Americans) Plus........our government invented the bloody Criminal Justice Act...... -that's criminal that is. Beck ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: (Fwd) kinda boring but >I nearly had a brain hemmorhage today; I was driving around, and I >nonchalantly turned on the radio to hear SOUNDGARDEN! Big fat hairy >deal, you say. Well it does sound boring, but ......not in this pestilent little country it doesn't!!!!! The last time I heard SG was when they did a session on the country's soon-to-be-axed one rock show......it was in 1992!!!! ...Awwww, snot fair....... Beck ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Black Web From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > Dude, i wrote a paper on this shit last semester. Phone lines ARE > already censored. Dial-A-Porn thingys are under watch or banned > already or something like that. i don't know, i don't use them. > But, no, they can't censor letters. The FBI can't even open a letter > in the post unless they have approval from a federal judge. But > email must be monitored. Bullshit. What the hell is the difference? > All this from the country where they apparently prize freedom above all.. DUH!! If the system is so good, how come people are so scared about you reading stuff like Marx and Lenin.. My Dad reads that stuff and now his phone lines are probably tapped (no joke) :( This calls for a quote..... Matt "What? The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy" Rage against the machine ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: SOMMSBOM > of the 100 000 in existence. ;) Hands up if you've got a copy! I have a copy I got for christmas about 3? years ago. jennifer> > > $7.95 away it was mine. Yippie!!!YIpppie!!! > > Damn that's cheap. Didn't they know what it was? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > heanintmadheslaughing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ From: sfox@mailer.fsu.edu (Stephen Fox) Subject: SOUNDGARDEN RELEASE DATE I just read in Addicted to Noise that the new record will be out 5/21, and there's an 80% chance that they will tour on the next Lollapalooza bill. Great Big Noise, Stephen R. Fox sfox@mailer.fsu.edu ------------------------------ From: Ross Filipek Subject: Re: Talking about Seattle I'll give you 3 guesses who the band member was (and it wasn't Kim, Chris or Matt). Ross - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, T.Bardini wrote: > Italy. He was telling me that the guitarrist or the bassist ( sorry I don' t > remember exatly ) at one point during the concert was starting to say and to > do :"fuck you all" . People was very upset and they started to through - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "But in your heart I'd freeze." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ From: HQXH39C@prodigy.com (MR SEAN M MCELENY) Subject: release date on my b-day! YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! soundgarden is my all time favorite band( i have near 100 songs of theirs) and the new album will (hopefully) be released on May 21 which is my BIRTHDAY. I kid you not, I make ALL my friends listen to them when in my car and its a well know fact they RULE!by the way I'll be 18(uhhhh adulthood) ok well thats all i had to say , you can file this item with the rest of the No-content letters sean ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: see that smile... hey all... does anybody have any GOOD tab for head down? i gave up on cherry lane crap after i saw their feeble attempt at fobd. jeezuz...could we possibly slide fifths up and down the fretboard for no apparent reason any more than that suggests??? i'm having problems getting stuff from olga so if anyone has this stuff and wants to send it to me direct, that would be peachy. also...to the honorable `coolio'...thanks for the capo advice on seasons. i'll give it a try, since the triple `f' tuning i was using has proven to be far more trouble than it's worth...normally i don't particularly dig capos, but i've learned that when dealing with material written by the pros (sg, dinosaur jr., afghan whigs etc.) the only other alternative is a bunch of sore fingers. coolio (and other serious musicians out there) gimme an e-mail to talk about the finer technical aspects of sg's music and music in general. (unfortunately, i've learned that such discussion tends to not go over so well on this list...excepting my good buddy glenn and a few others...i still have scars left over from the pumpkins debate a few weeks ago.) later... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: "Steven Russell Jr." Subject: here's the news you've been waiting for here's the news you've been waiting for: direct from addicted to noise: http://www.addict.com/ATN Soundgarden have finally checked out of Stone Gossard's Litho Studio in Seattle, and are happily ensconced at Bad Animal (also in Seattle) mixing their new album that may or may not be titled Infamous Sports Biography. We've heard various reports from Seattle-ites about the names of some of the songs, but we couldn't get Soundgarden's label to confirm any of them, instead a contact there told us: "The band is in mixing hell right now, and trying to decide exactly what will go on the record. We can't release any of the song titles right now, because the band keeps changing the names of the songs. We don't even know what they're calling this record. " They did tell us that this long-awaited follow-up to the triple platinum selling Superunknown was self-produced, and would be released on May 21. "It's not the "Black Hole Sun" Soundgarden, it's more like the "I Tried To Live" Soundgarden on this album," said our source. "It's a grittier, more live sound than the first album--it doesn't sound so produced." As for those Soundgarden song titles, for what it's worth, here are some of the titles we heard: "Karaoke," "Ty Cobb," "Christi," "Blow Up The Outside World," "Boot Camp," and "Apple Pie." Be forewarned. Those are the titles that are floating around at the moment, but the band may have changed the names, or they may not be included them. Latest word on Soundgarden playing Lollapalooza. Our very loquacious spokesperson told us: "It looks 80% certain that the band will do the festival." - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ May 21! that's the record companies first release date...add two weeks to that...so June 4! New album!!!! That's 16 weeks away from today! or 112 days...start the countdown.... - -- Steve - - swr@acsu.buffalo.edu - - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr - - SG Web Alliance ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 13 Feb 1995 From: JADAMO61@MAINE.maine.edu Hello all..I have no idea if this is going out to you or not, but I'll try. This is my first time writing in to a digest, so I'll try not to sound like too much of a fuck-up. Anyway, just going to pose the question that you've all heard at least 48,637,500,023 times before....What's your fav. SG song? album? For me, probably Outshine...(There's a little story there) And for the album, not exactly sure as I haven't heard the whole Super OK (?) album. Probably a combo of most of their stuff. Well, I am here listening...My name is Jay. Hopefully I'll hear from someone soon.Thanx....JCP ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: holy bible on the nightstand next to me... On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Ross Filipek wrote: > But aren't most of the Ministry fans locked up in insane asylums? Or > perhaps they've made a voyage to other planets. Just kidding! I dig > Ministry. But seriously, I think SG has a bigger fan base because of, well, > a certain 3-letter acronym that begins with 'M'. I mean, how often to we see > Ministry videos? TV is what reaches and converts the most people..... > > Ross > i think that's generally true in this country, but the feeling i get is that industrial stuff is much bigger in europe and asia. a girl i know who is an exchange student form the former soviet union (place that got hit by the earthquake, starts with an A, blanking on the name) anyway, she was bigger into ministry and front 242 and a few others than most of what we would consider popular music. she'd never even heard of green day, live, or the red hot chili peppers. and if i remember correctly, the ministry thing was supposed to be in australia. i don't think ministry has a bigger fan base in this country, but i would argue that they have more loyal fans than SG. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > On Tue, 13 Feb 1996, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > > > for taste. okay, i totally lost the point of my reply. what i was going > > to say was i think that ministry has a bigger fan base than soundgarden > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > "But in your heart I'd freeze." > --C. Cornell > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ From: James Ingram Subject: Re: AAAAAAAAAGH! On Mon, 12 Feb 1996, Ross Filipek wrote: > Before you buy it, MAKE SURE that your CD drive can support it. I should > know. I've got a Sanyo quad speed and have tried five different drivers, > none of which worked. _Alive in the Superunknown_ comes with a driver > disc made by Correll, but my computer chose to ignore it. I can only run > the program on other peoples' computers. It's really cool if you can get > it to work, though. > > Ross Thanks for the tip...but I'm one of them people who'd buy it just for the music tracks, if necessary. :) Once again, thanks. James ------------------------------ From: Mohit Krishan Bawa Subject: Ghoul (fwd) Forwarded message: From tool-list-owner@pobox.com Tue Jan 30 00:27:29 1996 From: Mohit Krishan Bawa Message-Id: <199601300509.XAA19284@great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu> Subject: Ghoul To: tool-list@pobox.com Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:09:54 -0600 (CST) Cc: marcuse@owlnet.rice.edu (Marcus Charles Sands) In-Reply-To: <199601300137.UAA26138@interramp.com> from "Tim Minnicks" at Jan 29, 96 08:37:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-tool-list@pobox.com Precedence: junk Reply-To: tool-list@pobox.com Errors-to: rbell@pobox.com X-Home-Page: http://pobox.com/~kabir/tool X-Ad: try http://pobox.com/pobox Tim, There is a great New York punk/alternacore band called Ghoul that you should look into. They sound kind of like a Soundgarden/Tool/Misfits/Sabbath conglomerate. The musicians are pretty gifted, the lyrics are dark but introspective and intelligently written and their live performances are unbelievable. The bassist, MCS Baggue throws frogs (his favorite animals) into the crowd and swings on cords onstage a la the members of Van Halen in the Panama video. Their latest single is available mostly in the northeast and it is called "Ode to Spodes" and the B-side is a cover of Anthrax's "I'm the Man." They believe in doing radically altered covers of bands that influenced them. Their debut EP "Kill the Kitten" contains the Cars' "You Might Think" and Accept's "Balls to the Wall." It's a great album. Also you might watch their video, "Bucket of Xiao" on MTV's 120 Minutes. Maurice Fyre - --- and that's the end of yet another tool-digest =) ------------------------------ From: James Ingram Subject: Re: Let Me Drown > No one (really) accused SG of selling out until they made > SuPeRuNkNoWn....a great album, for what it's worth > And no, i don't believe SG sold out...anyone that accuses another > band of selling out is, 99% of the time, jealous. If an artist is doing > what they want and selling tons of records, God bless 'em. I agree. SG did -NOT- sellout. If anyone really followed SG, they'd realize that all of their CD's are somewhat different than the other, and they all have a different feel. People just got the picture when Superunknown was released. (Personally, Superunknown was a bit of a disappointment because of it's lack of intensity...but it is excellent none the less) Jim ------------------------------ From: Alie Subject: re: AHHHH! Hey, Canadians looking for AITS or SFTS - a few days ago I found a copy of SFTS in the cd store here on campus, although I didn't see AITS there (and I didn't ask about it cause I don't have a cdrom anyway). So, I guess they are floating around up here somewhere, so keep on lookin'. BTW, the store I found it in was Dr. Disc. Alie. ------------------------------ From: "T.Bardini" Subject: Talking about Seattle Hello , guys!!! It is very great for me to be in touch with such a list . I am not american , I am Italian . I would you like to talk with you about the Soundgarden and which is the reletionship the have been keeping with a;; the others group from Seattle. When all this new groups came out, in my country they just use it as a sort of new fashion . As they use to say , that was the new GRUNGE style .I know that mostof the people and group; from Seattle hated that.I read that a lot of the singers from Seattle's bands cut their hair to protest against this commercialisation.What I would like to Know is if it was the same in America and especially in Seattle.Another thing. I saw Soundgarden last September in Swiss and it was Ok .But I was really impressed of what a friend of mine said to me after having see them in Italy. He was telling me that the guitarrist or the bassist ( sorry I don' t remember exatly ) at one point during the concert was starting to say and to do :"fuck you all" . People was very upset and they started to through aginst him little stones . And a lot, bbut he didn't move at all!!!They were not hurting him !!! So my friend said :"He was completely stoned!!!"I really like Soundgarden for the music that they do . I don'tknow them personally(of course not!). So I really don't know how they are. I can just guess something from their songs I mean what they want to tellus and so on . But the point is that there a lot of person that make them became a sort of hereos.Maybe they are. I believe they are more poets than hereos. And when you go to their concert and see such things happening , is not so nice.I don't care if they take drugs or not. I just can give opinions about the music they play . But don't you think they(or better he ) should not act like that in respect of the people were there to see them? I have finish for the moment . Ihope to have a lot of replies about that (good or bad, I don't care). And if someone from Seattle would keepin touch with me about what I have said first , I will be really very glad . Thank you very much . CIAO Tiziana My E-mail address is:"T.Bardini@stud.let.ruu.nl" Tiziana Bardini ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: SOMMS for sale!!! I found I copy of SOMMS for sale on the internet! I already have it, so whoever gets to it first can have it! Go here: http://www.monroe.edu/LRE/rarities.html Its only $20!!! (US) good luck! (The race is on) ------------------------------ From: James B Hawken Subject: SG's New Album??? I was sitting around my dorm room recently, looking through a friend's old copy of "Rolling Stone", and I noticed an article about SG's soon-to-be-released album. The article mentioned the usual publicity stuff, but listed a few titles of songs that will be on the new one- one of which was called "Ty Cobb". I was wondering if anyone had already heard any demos of this song, or any other song that's going to be released on this album? If so, I'd sure love to get a copy for myself... - - Jim ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 34] ***************************************