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                       (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Trivial Trivia
                       Yet More of That Trivial Trivia
                       (Fwd) things that irritate me.
                        (Fwd) Re: MCIS......and hair
                        (Fwd) Re: MCIS......and hair
                           Re: Unsolved Mysteries
                                   Re: Sap
                                   Re: Sap
                                   Re: Sap
                Re: there's just one thing left to be said...
                       (Fwd) things that irritate me.
                       Yet More of That Trivial Trivia
                               fully justified
                         Re: Soundgarden is awesome
                     Re: Yet More of That Trivial Trivia
                Re: there's just one thing left to be said...
                                  HIV Baby
                            You British folks...
                                   Re: Sap
                       burn the candle deep inside...
                 Saturday Morning Cartoons - please help me
                           3-step Member Directory
                       only kinda about soundgarden...
                          Re: You British folks...
                     Re: only kinda about soundgarden...
                            but in your heart...
                     Re: only kinda about soundgarden...
              Re: only kinda about soundgarden... (presidents)
                                  gathering
                          Re: You British folks...
                                   Lolla.
                     Re: only kinda about soundgarden...
                          Re: but in your heart...
                     Re: only kinda about soundgarden...
                          Re: but in your heart...
                          Re: You British folks...
                       Re: Top 3 SG Songs & Duct-tape

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From: "R. Kingsnorth" <rk12@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject:       (Fwd) Re: (Fwd) Trivial Trivia

- -


>This might be a bit off the point, but was it Raw magazine that was taken over
>by Select, or was that Kerrang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I heard that one of our great
>British rock mags had been taken over by select and was now devoted to Britpop
>:(
.......yeah,  it was Raw magazine....and it's really shitty now.  
That's a shame because Raw magazine was miles better than 
Kerrapp!!(er,  sorry,  typing error).....it's like Select for 13-year 
olds,  Britpop bloody Britpop.....

>Maybe Polos are collectors items in America :)
.......Now that would be fun....I could become a travelling one-woman 
freakshow - maybe I'd even get a slot at lollapalooza......
Beck
''Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?'' - FNM

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From: "R. Kingsnorth" <rk12@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject:       Yet More of That Trivial Trivia

- --


>Maybe I should wear a spoon around my neck too.
........then,  if you were ever stranded and had to live like a 
savage,  you could still use cutlery.....hey,  there we go,  now 
THAT's the meaning of the fork......  ; )

>Yeah, I'm sure he had big breasts in the book.
...........yeah,  the book should've been x-rated......or something.  
Maybe not.

>Gumby is a green claymation guy who is stretchy as hell and can be
>squashed and stuff.  He has a partner named Pokey, who is a horse and,
>like Gumby, is stretchy.  
......phew! this sounds like it should be x-rated too!

>Someone said he drives a blue Corvette. 
.........blue cars are cool.  Provided they aren't washing-powder 
blue.  Unless they are Beetles,  cos Beetles are cool no matter what 
the colour.  In fact,  any car with shiny bits on is alright by 
me....                                                                
   
I thought of something really clever to say at the weekend....aw 
bollocks....what was it again.....??

Ah yes,  here we go,  Trivial Trivia time ....... omigod I've 
forgotten it again...I'll have to make something up on the spot...ok, 
 here's some REALLY trivial trivia....I read in Raw magazine (sob!) 
that Chris Cornell used to be a seafood cook.......

Anyway,  now it's time for a question....
I remember ages ago this funny little rumour invoving a statue of 
Michael Jackson,  Chris Cornell and lots of beer.....something about 
him pissing on the statue or something.  I can't remember if it was 
true or not.....hope so!  I read about Dave Grohl spraying 'Foo 
Fighters' over the top of an MJ poster at Tower records and then 
slipping a Polaroid of himself with the can of paint under the door 
so that the manager could see he did it.......

Oh well.  Wish I could've seen it (hope Michael did)...can anyone 
shed any light on the 'statue' story?.......

if it's true I think we should all send messages of approval to 
kots...

Beck
''Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?'' - FNM 

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From: "R. Kingsnorth" <rk12@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject:       (Fwd) things that irritate me.


>I hate that, especially when Green Day comes on.  Because they all go,
>"YAAA!!!  GREEN DAY!!!  I LOVE IT!!!" and "Isn't Billie Joe just the
>greatest?"  Ya, if you like short little dweebs with crooked teeth who
>can't dress themselves.   It makes me yak.
   
.......Green Day irritate me full stop.  Even more than Britpop.
Beck
   - Let's kill Billy Joe!!!

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From: "R. Kingsnorth" <rk12@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject:       (Fwd) Re: MCIS......and hair


>Yeah.. And that cool one at the end of disc 1 where James Iha sounds like
>Kermit the frog :)
.........yeh....that's a goodun.
>I agree.. But then I liked "Bugs" off Vitalogy :)
.......yep,  so did I,  and everbody thought I was mad....
>Oh yeah.. Take That are way too underrated.. They should play them a lot more
>on TV and radio.  
..........Definitely.  You know what else?  FAR too much Soundgarden! 
 Give airtime to TT! (please read in hyooogely sarcastic 
teenybopper-type voice).....
...Soundgarden on the radio?? In England????  Where??  Was I 
(aurally) hallucinating (if such a thing is possible....)???? Oh 
well........
Beck
Radio Mercury!!! The heart of the sooooouuuuuuuuuth!
   -I got bored of the FNM quote
I shall take over the radio!  Singlehandedly!  Long live Boyzone 
(shit,  forgot those damn sanity pills again...)!!!

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From: "R. Kingsnorth" <rk12@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject:       (Fwd) Re: MCIS......and hair

 
>Out od interest did you the rumour taht they are already recording 
>another album,  I read about it in the music section of teletext and was 
>just wondering if anyone else had heard about it.
.........another one!! already??!!
.......hmmm,  someone else reads teletext too.....I thought I was the 
only one.  But *Grooves* or whatever they call it isn't the best 
music magazine.........
Beck
    - oh shag,  can't think of a 'Killer Kwote' now......


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From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Unsolved Mysteries

They were doing a segment on Mia Zapata.

Curt

On Sun, 4 Feb 1996, Grant Asher wrote:

> Why did they mention the Seattle scene on Unsolved Mysteries?  I can just imagine 
> Robert Stack saying something like "local bands, such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam and Alice In 
> Chains.  It must have been so strange.
> 
>                                          /########\
>                                          |    -      -     |
>                                          |       L        |
>                                          |     \----/      |
>                                          |                 |
>                                          \__####__/ 
>                                    Grant A. Asher
> 
> 
> 

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Sap

TO>Well, all i've heard form Silverchair is that one song and it just sounds 
TO>like pure Seattle imitation to me there.  And as for Weiland...i liked 
TO>his voice better on Core, when he was just being a hard rock vocalist.

He had the raspy thing going on Core.  

TO>>   -How about Axl Rose?  He has one.
TO>What, a guitar?  Oh, maybe you mean Seattle accent.  No he doesn't.  He's 
TO>got a bob dylan voice.  Well, not totally, but i'm trying....

Well, if we're talking about the raspy Seattle thing that we were
talking about a while ago, he does.  Just listen to Estranged (not the
beginning whiny part) in the middle somewhere.  And any other time he's
belting out vocals in his lower voice.  
                                                                       
 Nothingman
 
   -I don't know how you're suppose to find me lately...

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Sap

GS>> He bag production, he got > walrus gumboot...?

GS>Hehehe...  :)>  I like that.  Only, I believe it's "He back production, he g
GS>"war-is-scum" boots..."   I figure that, because the guy's a hippy.  :)>

Well, I got it outta the lyrics inside the Louder Love CD.  I don't get
it either.
 
                                                                   
Nothingman
 
  -It's those damn Beatles, I tell ya!

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Sap

NA>i hope you are kidding about axl- he doesn't have that same angst feel as
NA>Cornell, Cobain Vedder and the rest have. I'm not saying i like his voice,
NA>but i don't think it's the same at all. Plus Axl can't really sing live, he'
NA>only good in the studio

I didn't say he had the angst, I only said he had the raspy voice. 
It's a pretty good raspy voice in places, too.
 
                                                              
Nothingman
 
     -How could you say that I never needed you, 
            when you took everything from me.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: there's just one thing left to be said...

RF>I think you've got something there, Blind Dog. I mean, look at _Temple of 
RF>the Dog_. You've got the likes of "Say Hello 2 Heaven" and "Times of 
RF>Trouble." Gosh.....I wonder if someone has died. Then on _BMF_ you've got 
RF>"Mind Riot" and others. What about:

I read somewhere that Chris only wrote Reach Down and say Hello 2
Heaven to Andy Wood.  Although some of the others seem like they should
be to him.  Maybe that's why they made it on the album.  Maybe Chris
wrote them before Andy died, and he found they applied, so he put them
on the album.  

RF>"Looking for a pedestal that I can put you on and be on my way." Perhaps 
RF>he's placing the memory of a sadly departed friend somewhere where all 
RF>can see. Ya think?

Could be.  I think it's about a guy who's having a really bad day. 
"Tightrope walkin' in two ton shoes."  That sounds like a bad day.  And
maybe he's just referring to the feelings he felt when his best friend
died.  

                                                              
Nothingman
 
  -I live to live and I die to die, but I don't know why....

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: (Fwd) things that irritate me.

RK>   - Let's kill Billy Joe!!!

We should start sending him death threats and mail bombs.  I saw a cool
web site on the 6 o'clock news about how to make a mail bomb.  maybe I
should find it...
 
                                                           Nothingman
 
  -And Steven Tyler can be the next to go!

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Yet More of That Trivial Trivia

RK>I thought of something really clever to say at the weekend....aw 
RK>bollocks....what was it again.....??

Nevermind the Bollocks...

RK>Ah yes,  here we go,  Trivial Trivia time ....... omigod I've 
RK>forgotten it again...I'll have to make something up on the spot...ok, 
RK> here's some REALLY trivial trivia....I read in Raw magazine (sob!) 
RK>that Chris Cornell used to be a seafood cook.......

I read that same thing in Request magazine.  I think Raw and Request
had the same interview.

RK>Anyway,  now it's time for a question....
RK>I remember ages ago this funny little rumour invoving a statue of 
RK>Michael Jackson,  Chris Cornell and lots of beer.....something about 
RK>him pissing on the statue or something.  I can't remember if it was 
RK>true or not.....hope so!  

It was a big thing on this list a LONG time ago.  Last summer I think. 
Anyway, Micheal Jackson was at some record store signing autographs,
and Chris Cornell came in and people went to him instead of MJ.  So the
store people kicked Chris out because it was suppose to be a MJ day or
something.  So Chris went outside and pissed on a cardboard statue of
MJ.  I think that's how the story went.
 
                                                             Nothingman
 
  -Don't come over here and piss on my gate...but can I piss on your
statue?

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From: Kate Mercier <kam2@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: fully justified

i know... it's petty of me to say this, but.... well, I'm petty.

NYAAAH  NYAHH  NYAAAH all you people who e-mailed me with your infinite 
wisdom about the SINGLAR color of duct tape.  NYAAAAH  NYAAAH.  I wish I 
remembered all of your names so I could e-mail this directly to you 
instead of bothering the list.

However, I was joking when I made my comment on the connection between 
susan SILVER and SILVER duct tape.  But, I guess that's kind of 
pointles to say now.

in order to please the list gods, let me ask a question about soundgarden:

who's dog is it (big black rott looking one) in some of the publicity 
shots I've seen?  Does anyone know?  I know that Cornell likes dogs, is 
it his??

kisses (and a extra big tongue swipe to all those people who HAD to dent 
any other color of duct tape besides silver),
Kate

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From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka)
Subject: Re: Soundgarden is awesome

To whomsoever cares,
    I have to agree with you on the "divine experience that is soundgarden".
    Whenever I pop in a soundgarden cd it fills my room with a sort of
    mystical energy. Chris's voice is a part of it, his voice is really
    powerful, not just in volume. Matts drumming is extremely unique, those
    wacky rythms that appear to be simple on the surface but are really quite
    complicated. Kim's guitar is unique because he puts a dark stamp on
    everything he plays. You could tune your guitar like him, and you could
    play the same song and but you would not acquire the same dark sound. If
    you have ever heard new damage with brian may playing guitar you know what
    I am talking about. He cannot quite tap the "dark dimension" like kim
    does. Ben on bass.... ben is a unique individual unto himself, I suppose
    some of his dark rumblings could be copied, but I don't who else could
    come up with his quirky , non symetric rythms (ie, half, roadside,
    undertoe) he adds something to the band that really makes them come
    together. Soundgarden's music just induces differrent feelings then other
    bands, Because none of my favorite songs by other groups induce the same
    feelings that any one of soundgardens songs do. It's some kind of primal
    thing. Especially on songs like "I awake" , "loud Love", "fobd" , Jcp ,
    etc etc
        Clown
 
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    Hey, Smokestack lightning
        Wheels still coming slow
                                -Howling Wolf


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Subject: Re: Yet More of That Trivial Trivia
From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" <mattlaw@cogs.susx.ac.uk>

> Ah yes,  here we go,  Trivial Trivia time ....... omigod I've
> forgotten it again...I'll have to make something up on the spot...ok,
>  here's some REALLY trivial trivia....I read in Raw magazine (sob!)
> that Chris Cornell used to be a seafood cook.......
Yeah.. I read on the UNOFFICIAL SOUNDGARDEN WEB PAGE (tm) that Chris used to
work in a restaurant.. That's probably it.
>
> Anyway,  now it's time for a question....
> I remember ages ago this funny little rumour invoving a statue of
> Michael Jackson,  Chris Cornell and lots of beer.....something about
> him pissing on the statue or something.  I can't remember if it was
> true or not.....hope so!  I read about Dave Grohl spraying 'Foo
> Fighters' over the top of an MJ poster at Tower records and then
> slipping a Polaroid of himself with the can of paint under the door
> so that the manager could see he did it.......

I remember reading the Melody Maker interview with Soundgarden during Reading
'95 where Chris Cornell was going on about how he hoped that Michael Jackson
was buggering that Presley woman and that he hoped Elvis was turning in his
grave... That all started when he saw one of those statues in some shop.
>
> Oh well.  Wish I could've seen it (hope Michael did)...can anyone
> shed any light on the 'statue' story?.......
>
> if it's true I think we should all send messages of approval to
> kots...
Definitely
>

Matt

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Subject: Re: there's just one thing left to be said...
From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" <mattlaw@cogs.susx.ac.uk>

>
> I think you've got something there, Blind Dog. I mean, look at _Temple of
> the Dog_. You've got the likes of "Say Hello 2 Heaven" and "Times of
> Trouble." Gosh.....I wonder if someone has died. Then on _BMF_ you've got
> "Mind Riot" and others. What about:
Also:
Slaves and Bulldozers: "Now I know why you've been shaking/taken"

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From: Christopher Pres <melido@eden.rutgers.edu>
Subject: HIV Baby

Tell me fellow SG fans, am I the only one who has heard the song HIV Baby by
the one and only SG.  This song rocks and yet none of my friends has heard it
before.  The song is written by Chris and Ben but yet Hiro plays bass on it. 
What's up with that!  If someone knows the lyrics to the song please send them
on over.

To those people who don't like the song "Holy Water", what the hell is wrong
with you.  That is one of the best songs SG has ever made.

- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

"You my friend, I will defend, and if you change, well I love you anyway"
Jerry Cantrell

If you were mine to give I might throw it away" Chris Cornell


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From: Kelly Christa Jones <kcj2@dana.ucc.nau.edu>
Subject: You British folks...

Now, I know that this list isn't just in the US, but sometimes I think 
that all of you in England speak a different language.
	Could you give all of us stupid Americans a slang list, or 
something?!  Bloke, etc...
thanks
Kelly

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From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy)
Subject: Re: Sap

>From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
>Subject: Re: Sap
>
>Scott
>Weiland does this also.  When I first hear Big Empty off the Crow
>Soundrtrack, I couldn't even tell it was him until it got to the
>chorus.  And how about that hidden track on Purple?  I think Weiland
>might have tried a bit too hard on their first album to have this
>voice, but on their second, he uses many different vocal styles, and it
>works well.

Umm, maybe I just misunderstood what you said, but Weiland doesn't sing on
that hidden track. That's a street/folk musician, whose name i can't
remember. STP is a fan of that musician. I think it's Richard something.

Vasant

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vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu
"I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins
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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: burn the candle deep inside...

On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Ross Filipek wrote:

> I think you've got something there, Blind Dog. I mean, look at _Temple of 
> the Dog_. You've got the likes of "Say Hello 2 Heaven" and "Times of 
> Trouble." Gosh.....I wonder if someone has died. Then on _BMF_ you've got 
> "Mind Riot" and others. What about:

	I'm begining to think more and more that mind riot is another of 
the songs written by chris about andy wood's passing and how he deals 
with it.  the lyrics are, in true soundgarden manner, pretty depressing 
when you really study them, and they seem to be about not just an 
overwhelming sense of depression but about a singular loss. maybe of 
someone who he liked and admired.

	lines like 'tightrope walking in two tonne shoes' and 'crying 
from my eye teeth and bleeding from my soul' are regular death and 
despair-type lyrics from chris, but there are other lyrics that could be 
about his grief over wood's death.

	'and the police said this is normal control': did someone say to 
chris at some point that grieving in this manner is just the natural 
process and that his sorrow is in no way unique?

	and when chris is singing 'and I sharpened my wits on a dead 
man's skull', 'I built an elevator from his bones' and 'had to climb to 
the top floor to stamp out the coals' is he talking about wood's skull 
and bones, and how through andy's death from drugs he has learnt a better 
way to live and cope with life?

	'I'm luck's last match struck, in the pouring downwind': is chris 
the only one left to 'carry on', in the face of a shitty, depressing life?

> And that kind of makes me wonder who the "she" is in "Somewhere." Any 
> thoughts?

	I was just reading through the lyrics to somewhere on seth's page 
(nice page btw seth), and I now have more regard for ben's songwriting, 
and specifically lyrical writing, prowess.  my take on the song is that 
it's about a romeo and juliet sort of thing, where a man and woman's love 
is severed for some reason. 

	the man, fictional or not, 'wishes to wish and dreams to dream', 
but he also tries to live while he 'cries to cry and dies to die'.  even 
worse, he knows why he feels so bad ('but I know why').  in his dreams he 
is with the love of his life, the way things should be ('things that 
should'). but he isn't, and the 'laughs of love' are echoing around him. 
they were like 'the moon to earth' and 'the sky to sea', only for some 
reason they aren't allowed to be together ('only we're no longer, allowed 
to be'). so for the rest of his life (for the times that pass my life) 
he'll look and wait for her (I'll search for the sky, that she wanders 
by). 

	and here I was thinking all he could write was half :)

                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
                       -----------------------------------


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From: Carolyn <carolyn.hanel@mtg.for.csiro.au>
Subject: Saturday Morning Cartoons - please help me

Soooooorrrrry, guys, but this isn't related to Soundgarden.  Instead it's my
favourite band (who, incidently, are LIKE Soundgarden in that they are
completely unique - not another band around like 'em), the Violent Femmes.

I saw a short review in a newspaper yesterday about the Sat Morning Cartoons
CD release, with a mention of a few bands who feature on it..........and of
course my attention was grabbed when skimming through the list the words
Violent Femmes jumped out at me.

Can someone please tell me what song they sing on this album, and is it any
good??

Carolyn the Mandatory Fixture
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I'm high as a kite, I just might stop to check you out.....Violent Femmes
You aren't even listening; take your dreams and go away.....Pennywise
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From: ansel@morgan.com
Subject: 3-step Member Directory

     Hello SOMMS...I'd like some perspective on which fellow 
     listees will be stepping on my head in the pit, so, if you'd 
     e-mail ME directly, I'll compile a basic member directory 
     including only your NAME, E-MAIL ADDRESS, and LOCATION 
     (Country, City, etc.)  I'll forward the list of interested 
     participants to Seth by Friday and he can include it on our 
     'secret' member directory page (for which I, among many 
     others, keep promising to send my photo and detailed bio).  
     This way we can post 'get-together' messages to only those 
     listmembers affected.
     
     Vikki
     ansel@morgan.com 

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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: only kinda about soundgarden...


	if anyone is ever feeling down in the future, I suggest turning 
on the tv and waiting for the clip to peaches by the presidents of the 
USA. the song is funny in itself, but when you see the clip, you will 
crack up.  I'll bet a million dollars that it puts a smile on your face. 
littlejoe and I can't get enough of it :)

	this post also has a very tenuous link to soundgarden, but it is a
link nonetheless :)  can someone tell me whether the president's album is 
worth buying?  I'd almost buy it, what with kim playing on it and all, 
and I read that kim almost begged to play on the record, so there must be 
some other cool stuff on it.  so someone out there recommend it so I can 
go out and spend my money.




                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
                       -----------------------------------


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From: Carolyn <carolyn.hanel@mtg.for.csiro.au>
Subject: Re: You British folks...

At 04:00 PM 5/02/96 -0700, Kelly Christa Jones wrote:
>Now, I know that this list isn't just in the US, but sometimes I think 
>that all of you in England speak a different language.
>	Could you give all of us stupid Americans a slang list, or 
>something?!  Bloke, etc...

Hey, don't you Americans say bloke?  We in Australia do.  Of course we'd get
a lot of our terminology from the British..............

Can't think of any other words we use at this stage.

Carolyn the Maniacal Fancier
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tonight I will rage against the forces of fate - PENNYWISE
And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore - SOUNDGARDEN
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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Subject: Re: only kinda about soundgarden...
From: Jamesetta Simpson <jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org>

>This post also has a very tenuous link to soundgarden, but it is a
>link nonetheless :)  can someone tell me whether the president's album is 
>worth buying?  I'd almost buy it, what with kim playing on it and all, 
>and I read that kim almost begged to play on the record, so there must be 
>some other cool stuff on it.  so someone out there recommend it so I can 
>go out and spend my money.

Spend your money, it's a good record.  My pick of songs are, Kitty, Lump, Dune
Buggy.  

Jamie

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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: but in your heart...

On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, toybox wrote:

> drumsets are far past too expensive.  I have to tell a drummer this, 
> though.  That fill that Matt does in FOBD, right before everything 
> starts up again (You know the part where everything else rests), 
> right before Chris sings: Cuz i fell on...  Anyway, that fill just 
> majorly rules.  It kicks my ear's ass.  -j

	one of my favourite matt rolls is the one he does on cold bitch, 
the bside to both outshined and spoonman over here in australia.  it is 
just before the kim leaps into a huge, feedback-laden solo, which is 
comparable to the one in mailman because chris keeps singing over it.  
the roll itself is hard to describe, so you would have to listen to it 
for yourself.  that one kicks all my asses, and I listen to the song just 
for that roll :)


                       -----------------------------------
                        a thousand doors, a thousand lies
                           rooms a thousand years wide 
                       -----------------------------------


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From: Carolyn <carolyn.hanel@mtg.for.csiro.au>
Subject: Re: only kinda about soundgarden...

At 01:24 PM 6/02/96 +1000, Blind Dog wrote:
>	this post also has a very tenuous link to soundgarden, but it is a
>link nonetheless :)  can someone tell me whether the president's album is 
>worth buying?

Hey, fellow Aussie, don't you remember my post late last year thanking
Foreshocks for telling us all about that CD?  I went out & bought it & it's
one of the best CD buys I've ever made (and believe me, I've made a lot).
There's nothing lyrically brilliant about the album and it's NOTHING like
Soundgarden; all the songs are light-hearted, cynical (sometimes) and just
plain old fun, fun, fun.  If you like Peaches you'll like the rest.  Naked &
Famous (with Kim's guitar noodles) is also a great song.

In other words, Blind Dog, BUY IT!!

Oh, and if you just want a TASTE of the album, then buy the Lump single.
Apart from Lump it has 3 other songs that aren't on the full album.  AND one
of them is named just for me................Carolyn's Bootie!!  :-)

Carolyn the Music Freak
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Everybody wants to be naked & famous.
I caught a glimpse of Carolyn's bootie as she ran from the bathroom
into my bedroom.....and I like it - THE PRESIDENTS OF THE US OF A
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From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Re: only kinda about soundgarden... (presidents)

Carolyn wrote about the presidents of the usa:
> In other words, Blind Dog, BUY IT!!

	I hope I can get it too... I've been thinking... the presidents 
or stravinski multimedia?... Alive in the Superunknown seems to be 
afraid of this country... or perhaps its in some store I haven't yet 
visited?... I can't go to every godamned music store in this huge 
city... but the presidents, I've seen hat disc... it was just some pesos 
away... but so was that multimedia stravinsky cdrom I wanted... anyway 
someday I won't have money for either one... I must choose... NOW!

					In economic need...
					     URBANO
______________________________________________________________
         The aim of every artist is to arrest motion, 
which is life, by artificial means and hold it fixed so that 
     a hundred years later, when a stranger looks at it, 
              it moves again since it is life.
					- William Faulkner

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From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: gathering

toybox wrote:
> Whatever happened to that gathering of list members that was once 
> proposed?

	he he he he he he he he he he he he he... so many friends 
here... so far away... Gathering? he he ehe... I might go to the US in 
march or april.... I guess I'll go tho the opposite coast of this 
gathering... he he he he... I'm destined to see nothing more than your 
electronic picture... he he he he.... Those from the list who live in 
Mexico don't even live here in Mexico city... he he he ....

				     superunknown...
					URBANO 
______________________________________________________________
         The aim of every artist is to arrest motion, 
which is life, by artificial means and hold it fixed so that 
     a hundred years later, when a stranger looks at it, 
              it moves again since it is life.
					- William Faulkner

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From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Re: You British folks...

Kelly Christa Jones wrote:
> 
> Now, I know that this list isn't just in the US, but sometimes I think
> that all of you in England speak a different language.

	Hey!!! I too speak a different language!!!! Pus que pensabas o 
que? Aqui hablamos espa~nol! Perhaps we should port the 'unofficial' 
language of the list to German. Es wurde sehr schon werden! 

						URBANO
______________________________________________________________
         The aim of every artist is to arrest motion, 
which is life, by artificial means and hold it fixed so that 
     a hundred years later, when a stranger looks at it, 
              it moves again since it is life.
					- William Faulkner

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From: He Who Walks Between <toybox@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Lolla.

Ok, if Lollapalooza actually did come to Southeastern Virginia, does any 
one know what venue it would use?  The best thing i can think of would be 
Strawberry Banks.  It would need some modifications, but it could be made 
to work, i think.  Anyone else on the list familiar with that area agree?
And, also, where was Lolla in Raleigh, NC lst year?  Could it be in the 
same place again?  If so, i might be able to get to two shows, cuz i got 
a friend w/ an apartment in Raleigh!  Yes!!!!!  Sg!!!!!!!!!!!!  
Sg Live!!!!!!!!!!!  And i suppose you non album order changers would get 
upset if sg's setlist didn't match with the track order of your albums, 
huh?  Kidding!  -j

aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
*****************************************************************************
"I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
"Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement


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From: Ross Filipek <rfilipek@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: only kinda about soundgarden...

I've got that album and I like it. It's strange because after hearing 
"Lump" I figured the whole album would be of the Joe Rockstar persuasion. 
It turns out that many of the tracks are surprisingly musical and 
intricate rhythm-based (sort of like Primus but NOWHERE near as 
technical). I'd definitely recommend picking it up.

Ross

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, blind dog wrote:

> worth buying?  I'd almost buy it, what with kim playing on it and all, 
> and I read that kim almost begged to play on the record, so there must be 
> some other cool stuff on it.  so someone out there recommend it so I can 
> go out and spend my money.
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 

		    "But in your heart I'd freeze."                   
				       --C. Cornell            
        


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From: Ross Filipek <rfilipek@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: but in your heart...

I personally like some of the fills he rips out towards the end of "She 
Likes Surprises." As with "Cold Bitch," Matt demonstrates that he can 
tackle uncanny time signatures as though they were in straight 4. In 
fact, I had to listen to "Cold Bitch" about 30 times before I could 
follow the meter of it.

Ross

P.S.--Any thoughts on why "She Like Surprises" was included on the 
international release but not the US release of _Superunknown_?

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, blind dog wrote:

> 	one of my favourite matt rolls is the one he does on cold bitch, 
> the bside to both outshined and spoonman over here in australia.  it is 
> just before the kim leaps into a huge, feedback-laden solo, which is 
> comparable to the one in mailman because chris keeps singing over it.  
> the roll itself is hard to describe, so you would have to listen to it 
> for yourself.  that one kicks all my asses, and I listen to the song just 
> for that roll :)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 
> 
		    "But in your heart I'd freeze."                   
				       --C. Cornell            
        

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From: Ross Filipek <rfilipek@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: only kinda about soundgarden...

Here's a representation of MTV's influence on us Americans. I was in a 
record store the other day and saw both the "Lump" single and the whole 
_POTUSA_ album. The funny thing was that the single was priced HIGHER 
than the album itself. What do you guys say to that?

Ross 

- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Carolyn wrote:
> 
> Oh, and if you just want a TASTE of the album, then buy the Lump single.
> Apart from Lump it has 3 other songs that aren't on the full album.  AND one
> of them is named just for me................Carolyn's Bootie!!  :-)
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

		    "But in your heart I'd freeze."                   
				       --C. Cornell            
        

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From: He Who Walks Between <toybox@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: but in your heart...

On Tue, 6 Feb 1996, Ross Filipek wrote:

> I personally like some of the fills he rips out towards the end of "She 
> Likes Surprises." As with "Cold Bitch," Matt demonstrates that he can 
> tackle uncanny time signatures as though they were in straight 4. In 
> fact, I had to listen to "Cold Bitch" about 30 times before I could 
> follow the meter of it.
> 
Yes!  I agree.  As i told Nothing Man, i think doing a musical 
transcription of that song would be like a college level test in music 
class.  Like a final exam or something.  I listen to it and read the 
tabs, but i can barely, (after 10 listens reading along to the tabs and 
listening) keep with what the guitar is doing.  And the drums seem to be 
doing at least three different beats AT THE SAME TIME.  Is it my 
imagination, or does Matt 
just plain out kick ass?  Sometimes i play air drums along to songs, but 
not that one.  But that's why we all love Sg isn't it? 


aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
*****************************************************************************
"I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
"Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement


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From: He Who Walks Between <toybox@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: You British folks...

On Mon, 5 Feb 1996, Kelly Christa Jones wrote:

> Now, I know that this list isn't just in the US, but sometimes I think 
> that all of you in England speak a different language.
> 	Could you give all of us stupid Americans a slang list, or 
> something?!  Bloke, etc...

Now Kelly, while i agree there are cultural differences here, i don't 
think that the U.S. has to be the one everyone else has to accomodate.  
Rather, everyone should accommodate everyone else.  So, if anyone ever 
says a word they know is local, please provide an explanation in 
parenthesis. Now i just got a great idea.  I could devote a section of my 
homepage to oddities in the different regional versions of english.  So, 
if any of you have any local words and their translations into plain 
English, please send them to me.  Yes, i will include other languages as 
well.  So, what i should get is some words from different regions of the 
U.S., some from Down Under, some from 
"Across the Pond", some from Canada, and maybe even some from Mexico, 
Urb@no.  Well, i think this is a great idea and i'd love to have some 
feedback.  Sorry to be so unrelated to sg, but i love a tangent.  -j


aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
*****************************************************************************
"I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
"Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement


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From: toybox <toybox@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: Top 3 SG Songs & Duct-tape

> He who walks between -
> 
> Looking at your address, I take it your in North Carolina, yes?  
Yes.

I'd love to
> get into a SG cover group,.but I'm in NJ.  
We are actually playing, we're just kidding you know.  Like if 
distance were not a factor we would definitely be doing this.  Hey, 
Nothing Man is in Maryland.  I'm in NC, and you are in NJ.  Whatever 
happened to that gathering of list members that was once proposed?  
Maybe we could play there....  


> Plus, I'm temporarily drumless...
That's gotta suck.  I want very bad right now to learn drumming, but 
drumsets are far past too expensive.  I have to tell a drummer this, 
though.  That fill that Matt does in FOBD, right before everything 
starts up again (You know the part where everything else rests), 
right before Chris sings: Cuz i fell on...  Anyway, that fill just 
majorly rules.  It kicks my ear's ass.  -j

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