From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 30 Jan 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 01:31:37 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 30 Jan 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: sorta related.. Yes....even MORE track order.... KOTS and stuff Impressive listening habits Re: T-shirts in Holland ? song order..again Reading '95 Re: KOTS and stuff What does it all mean? Re: radio sucks! Re: Lolla '96 sg track info Re: Ummm..stuff Cryin in my beer??? truly hater Re: Impressive listening habits Re: hello all! thanks for the support..... Re: U2, Koalas Re: Louder Than Live Reading '95 Re: Impressive listening habits Re: Cryin in my beer??? Re: KOTS and stuff Track Order Re: disco volante Re: Duct tape does wonders. (Fwd) Track order ( I think) Duct tape does wonders. Re: (fwd) Re: reading boot. I got a snake, man! I just thought of something Re: thanks for the support..... Brass instruments Re: I got a snake, man! Re: Chris's voice Rusty Cage Self Pollution Songs Re: thanks for the support..... Re: I got a snake, man! Cryin in my beer??? Re: Chris's voice Re: thanks for the support..... I got a snake, man! Re: thanks for the support..... Re: Ummm..stuff ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Holland N B Subject: Re: sorta related.. On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Glenn wrote: > > I agree. > > Really? Neat. :)> > > > I think Slash is a great > guitarist. I also think > that Axl can sing. > > They can also write, IMHO.... > > Cool... anyway, take it easy. :)> > > Glenn > > One of my favourit G'N'R songs has to be their about thier longest. It is Coma of Use Your Illusion I I thimk? That is such a cool song, especially when I am a bit tired and its early in the morning (you know what it's like being at uni) Yeah i'll take it well easy (I am a student what do you expext) See ya all Loadsa Luck Nik ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: Yes....even MORE track order.... >I actually had a long discussion with my friends one time and we came to >the conclusion that the most typical track on which to have a hit single >was #7. ........That's funny cos my friend swears that the best track on all albums is always number 7 - I think he's a bit mad though anyway.... >As far as order being important, I'm a big Pink Floyd fan as well. On >their albums, order is just as important as the music itself. Take 'The >Wall,' for example. It would not be the magnum Opus it is were the order >of the songs drastically changed. ...............EXACTLY! Couldn't have put that better myself.....and therefore track order IS important...Pink Floyd are just one of the bands who use track order as PART OF the music....... Beck ''Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?'' - FNM ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: KOTS and stuff I was just wondering......is anyone on this list a member of KOTS? What's it like??? - I've always been a bit dubious of 'fan clubs' but I'm very tempted to join this one....... About Reading '95.....I thought SG were BRILL.....yes, they didn't move about much, but the show was excellent...sort of hypnotic...I have seen them twice but both times in outdoor venues and I really can't wait for them to come to England for some shows in smaller venues (Brixton Acadeny!Brixton Academy!Brixton Academy!) Hmmmmm...I wouldn't mind snowboarding with Chris either...he could teach me...or maybe I could introduce him to my dog and we could go for a nice long walk..................................!Ahem. Beck ''Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?'' - FNM ------------------------------ From: "R. Kingsnorth" Subject: Impressive listening habits Hey everyone! Here's something I meant to say earlier: My dad is 47 and he loves Soundgarden....we have Badmotorfinger at MAX VOLUME in the car .... I just thought I'd share that really interestin piece of info with you all.... Beck ''Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?'' - FNM ------------------------------ From: "W.N. Foppen" Subject: Re: T-shirts in Holland ? >> Hi Walter! Were you at Reading 95 as well? Maybe. But I was there, >> and I can tell you Sg were great. Maybe they were not very excited as >> you probably want them to be, but they made a beautiful gig. I >> couldn't stop poguing for a second! They were driving me dead from >> kicks and stuff! and you dare to say they weren't good at any of those >> festivals? IT'S CRAZY!!! You are a very unlucky guy, believe me! >> First of all, I didn't say they were no good, just not as good as I expected them to be, then I only saw them at the Lowlands Festival, where they were very unenthousiastic. They played good but that was all, just played some songs and that was it, and that's not a really live performance, i reckon.. Take Dog-Eat-Dog, they perform !!.. I love soundgarden and i don't really like Dog-Eat-Dog, but Dog-Eat-Dog-live kicks ass.. No, I wasn't at Reading (can't afford it to go there from Holland), but i saw parts of it at MTV and they looked a bit more enthousiastic than at lowlands.... but i think they can do better.. ------------------------------ From: "Sam" <9466699@lewis.sms.ed.ac.uk> Subject: song order..again About the track order thing. A friend of mine had the idea that badns should give alternative playing orders, especially on things like ( sorry it's not a worshiped soundgarden album) Mellon Collie.. by the Smashing pumpkins, which is so bloody huge with quite a lot of shite in it. Coz then you could shuffle it up but still keep the feeling and mood that was indended for it by the artist. It's just a thought but i thought it was quite a good one sam. ------------------------------ From: warren@anchor.co.uk (Warren Dyson) Subject: Reading '95 Hi folks, I was at Reading '95 when SG played their set, and I'd been looking forward to it for ages (I hadn't seen them live since the BadMotorFinger Tour, and they were supposed to play Reading '94, but they didn't), anyway, to cut a long story short, SG (Esp. Chris + Kim) looked completely bored with the songs, no enthusiasm at all (even though they PLAYED well). In fact, the only one really doing something was Ben...... The point is :- Soundgarden seem to lose it at festivals, they're much better at their own gigs. Admitedly though, their lack of enthusiasm could have been because they had been on tour so long...... Here's hoping they play Reading '96 (I'll be there).... Take it easy, \\\|/// -(@ @)- +-----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo----------------------------------+ | | | "Leaning on the pedestal that holds my self denial, | | Firing the pistol that shoots my holy bride, | | Sitting here like wet ashes with X's in my eyes, | | And drawing flies..........." - Soungarden, Drawing Flies. | | | | Warren Dyson - Guitar Messiah ;) Email :- warren@anchor.co.uk | | | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ------------------------------ From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" Subject: Re: KOTS and stuff On 29 Jan 96 at 10:54, R. Kingsnorth wrote: > I was just wondering......is anyone on this list a member of KOTS? > What's it like??? - I've always been a bit dubious of 'fan clubs' but > I'm very tempted to join this one....... I'm not a member but my friend Lin is and it's okay. They have some 35,000 to 40,000 members which does make it a little cumbersome! You get some sort mailing-- usually a flyer w/ merch info and bit of other stuff. They always send out Xmas cards--a nice touch. For the $$, I think it's worth it! > > /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mercyhurst Preparatory School Keeping you connected in 1995! /\/\/\/\/\(C)1995TMK/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: What does it all mean? Dear all, Just wondering if any of you know what a few more of the tracks from SUPERUNKNOWN are about cos my girlfreind, currently in Melbourne, Australia wants the words & I thought I'd tell her what they're about too. I already have Mailman, Superunknown, Spoonman, 4th of July and Like suicide. Any others would be greatly appreciated. Bye Dan ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: radio sucks! > i would just like to say that radio sucks! and to lenart, be glad >that the damn radio doesn't play songs like "4th of july" and "like >suicide", because they would kill those songs too. > phil Phil what are you talking about? I have been playing those songs constantly for over a year now, and they're still alive and kicking. No one can kill those songs. Clown ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: Re: Lolla '96 If, and when, soundgarden play Minneapolis, I will be there!!! More than once if possible! So, Geoff, you have at least one person willing to see them in Minnesota. I dissappear as soon as you forget, Aaron ============================================================================== *MAYOR McCHEESE* ============================================================================== *The views expressed by Mayor McCheese (copyright 1975, McDonald's Corporatation, New York, NY) are not neccessarily those of McDonald's, or any of it's affiliates. All complaints and legal action are to be filed with GRIMACE, FRYGUY, HAMBURGLER, AND ASSOCIATES at Happyland Island, Indonesia. ------------------------------ From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" Subject: sg track info Hey all, happy Monday! Over the weekend, I received an advance copy of the new Home Alive compilation from Epic. Also included was some of the material that will be used in packaging. Anyway, Seth told me to go ahead and post this correction myself: The Sgarden track on Home Alive is Kyle Petty (Son of Richard). The track everyone is calling Kristin is actually entitled KRISTI and will appearing on the new Sg album. Home Alive will be released, I beleive the info said, on Feb. 20! If there's any interest, tomorrow or sometime this week, I can post the track list. (I'd do it today, but I forgot to make a copy of it to bring with me!) that's all, folks! deb /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mercyhurst Preparatory School Keeping you connected in 1995! /\/\/\/\/\(C)1995TMK/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: Ummm..stuff On 28 Jan 1996 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > TO>> JY> 1) call attention to an otherwise suck ass band > TO>> JY> (I have one in mind, but I don't want to start a > TO>> JY> war), > TO>> > TO>> Aww...come on, start one. You know you want to. :) I think thisone > TO>> applies to about every death metal band. > TO>My guess is that whoever this is is talking about Metallica. ____________________________________________________________________________ No, didn't really have metallica in mind. I was thinking slayer, king diamond, oh no here it comes..... =-* %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > > > TO>> JY> 2).Serve satan, our master (kidding) > TO>> > TO>> Danzig. > TO>I'd say you are right there. >__________________________________________________________________________ Oh yeah, Danzig too.I wouldn't go so far as to say Danzig is a suck ass band, but that guy with the big neck is funny to watch %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% > a song called "Danzig Needs a Hug." I thought that was funny as hell > (good word for the conversation). _____________________________________________________________________________ I've never heard it, but some friends of mine wrote a song about trent reznor. "Oh trent,why are you so angry? Would it help if we talked....do you need a hug?" ***************jennifer*****************************************************> ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Cryin in my beer??? I have a long time friend who has always had very similar musical taste except when it comes to Soundgarden. He was diagnosed with a terminal illness a year ago and says that SG is too morose and depressing. He needs to keep a PMA and all that gloomy music is not good for him. I know that Mr. Cornell is never going to be asked by Disney to write a Zip-a-dee do dah song for their next animated feature. I admit some of the lyrics are a bit on the gloom and doom side. But when I listen to the music I don't feel like I want to drink a bottle of vodka,empty the medicine cabinet, get the cat and drive my car into Lake Michigan!! What I'm wondering about, is SG a really depressing band but since I like them so much I don't see it that way? Does anyone else find them morose?? or have friends that do? - T ------------------------------ From: Vassilis Theoharis Subject: truly hater Ok, hater lp kicks ass! What about truly? Does anyone know anything about their music? ------------------------------ From: Jennifer C Graham Subject: Re: Impressive listening habits My mom calls me up at college to tell me when there is a Soundgarden video on tv and then we boast about how sexy he is! On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, R. Kingsnorth wrote: > Hey everyone! > Here's something I meant to say earlier: My dad is 47 and he loves > Soundgarden....we have Badmotorfinger at MAX VOLUME in the car .... I > just thought I'd share that really interestin piece of info with you > all.... > Beck > ''Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?'' - FNM > ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: hello all! TO>> TO>> I play the trumpet and about every other brass instrument, and I can TO>> TO>> play the guitar and bass. My singing isn't all that bad, either. Th TO>> TO>> would be cool to have a rock band with trumpets and brass. TO>> TO>Um, Dave Matthews? -j TO>> I was thinking more guitars (electric) and more brass. Like TO>> Soundgarden's hard stuff with brass. LOTS of brass, not just one TO>> little puny sax. TO>Excuse me, but have you ever heard Interstellar Space by John Coltrane? TO>THat album shows that there is no such thing as a "puny little sax" if TO>you know how to play it. That stuff sounds like metal! And it's on a Sax! John Coltrane is the shiznit. Ok, but I still don't like most saxes. But you are right, he is cool. TO>> I wouldn't even want a sax (wimpy wood-wind), TO>Hey, my friend plays sax in the band here. Some sax players are good, but trumpets kick their asses. Trumpets are the coolest instruments. I guess it's just because I'm a trumpet player, though. :) TO>just a TO>> lot of trumpets and french horns. TO>You need some tubas, too. And some strings...Maybe some maracas would TO>be nice as well... Yeah, tubas are cool, too. Especially when they have cool parts to play. Most tubas have little shitty parts that suck. A bunch of quarter notes and whole notes, and it's usually the same thing over and over again. I think tubas need to have the meledy of a song more often. I know it would be weird, but it would be cool. They have this thing near Washington DC every Christmas called Tuba Christmas, where they have 200 tubas playing Christmas songs. Now they know what's goin' on. I mean, they rule. Nothingman -Soundgarden should do an unplugged and have Ben play tuba..... ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: thanks for the support..... CA>However, much as I like your postings and fun humour and all, I must say you CA>disappointed me greatly when you wrote: CA>About Drawing Flies - CA>>Yeah, the intro sucks, but after you get past that, it's freakin' CA>>awesome. And that bass solo kicks ass too. The intro to Rusty Cage CA>>kinda sucks too. But it's awesome on Motorvision. Motorvision is the CA>>shiznit. Now I just need the Loud Love video (I can't remember what CA>>it's called). CA>The intro to Rusty Cage is {as you would say} "freakin' awsome" !!!!!!!! CA>That's my favourite SG song and I really can't believe you don't like it. CA>Being the first song on bmf, that intro really got me into the whole album - CA>I loved it all from the first listen. In stereo that intro is wonderful - CA>so pacy, and I love the way it goes from side to side. So you have me CA>intrigued...........what don't you like about the intro? I love Rusty Cage, but I don't like the intro. The guitar after the intro is just so cool that I can't wait through the whole intro to hear it. So I fast forward to it. It's a good intro to introduce the song, but after you know what's gonna happen, you don't really need that anymore. Like when people were talking about the mood created by the way the tracks are placed on an album. After you listen to the whole album a couple hundred times, you know what mood the songs are creating, and you can create your own mood. By the way, Savatage is a band that relies on the tracks being in a cretain order too. they have an album called Streets: A Rock Opera. It goes in a certain order to go with the story that comes with it. And their other albums are like that too, especially their newest one, Handful Of Rain. It has a lot of reacurring themes throughout the album that you miss if you skip some, and that you get sick of if you skip others. I'm not saying everyone should listen to every album all te way through, but sometimes it helps. Sometimes I can't decide what I wanna listen to, and then I love my random button (I have a 6 CD changer). Wow. helluva tangent. CA>And one last by the way, I have the Loud Love video (called Louder Than CA>Live) - bought it while on my holidays, in fact! Wow. Is it as good as Motorvision? Nothingman -Looking up at Heaven through the bottom of a glass. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: U2, Koalas CA>But yes, I'm sure there's a new message from Nothingman to read! :-) And now there's one more useless message for the Great Nothingman. Nothingman -It's not my fault, you encouraged me. :) ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Louder Than Live GK>Doen't it look like Chris's shorts in one of the videos (I can't remember GK>which) are made of silver duct tape? Duct tape??!? Hmmm... This is just one for clue to show that Chris Cornell is a snowboarder. He uses duct tape on his clothing. And not just ANY duct tape (especially some that matches), but SILVER duct tape. What a guy! Nothingman -Now I have to get that video! ------------------------------ From: "Welly (Alastair Moore)" Subject: Reading '95 I ALSO was there at Reading this year.. It was basically the first time I'd seen SG live, so whether or not they were as good as they could have been, I was still on awe.. "Searching with my good eye closed" was f**king excellent! I am well into that song since i heard it at Reading.. and SG are still my second top band (after the Doors).. Welly (Alastair Moore) " It's always funny until someone gets hurt .... /======----- . .. . -----======\ welly@io.com / cm-a.j.moore@tees.ac.uk \======----- . .. . -----======/ .... And then it's just hilarious! " ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: Impressive listening habits Even though my dad doesn't really know who Soundgarden is (he always asks me, who is this on the radio?") he likes Chris Cornell's voice. So i guess there are middle aged people who don't lose their taste in music. (I guess i also have to thank my dad for playint Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd albums when i was little.....otherwise i might have turned out to be a (YEEECCH!!) hip-hopper, or (EVEN WORSE!) a country music fan. Gregg - long live rock n roll Drummer, Soul Sick. "Don't come over here and piss on my gate. Save it, ___________ just keep it off my Wave" --My Wave, Soundgarden | | | Soul Sick | "Go avay or i vill taunt you a zecond time" anonymous |___________| French man. melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net ------------------------------ From: Primusuxs@aol.com Subject: Re: Cryin in my beer??? I find their lyrics realistic and although that may be depressing to some (especially to someone who's dealing with a serious illness), it makes my day go better. It makes me think man, these guys feel just like I do sometimes! I personally can't stomach those who have a zip-a-dee-do-dah attitude towards lyrics and life (ie. Mariah Carey, Boyz2Men, the list goes on and on and....). I guess the music a person listens to can or does reflect the way he/she lives, that's a scary thought in alot of cases!! But I've never run into anyone who can't deal with SG because of their lyrical content, usually it's their sound, Chris's voice or some other idiotic reasons, well idiotic to those of us reading this! ------------------------------ From: Kelly Christa Jones Subject: Re: KOTS and stuff The fan club is pretty OK. I got a bunch of cool stuff (posters, stickers, lists of recordings, etc.) when I first sent my $5 in. And now all there is is x-mas stuff. But I really liked the card they gave 2 (?) years ago. It had a picture of the guys on the front and all of the holidays listed on the inside and said something like "there, we covered them all". And last year they actually sent a x-mas ornament... that was pretty neat. But this year it was only a postcard. Kelly On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, R. Kingsnorth wrote: > I was just wondering......is anyone on this list a member of KOTS? > What's it like??? - I've always been a bit dubious of 'fan clubs' but > I'm very tempted to join this one....... > > About Reading '95.....I thought SG were BRILL.....yes, they didn't > move about much, but the show was excellent...sort of hypnotic...I > have seen them twice but both times in outdoor venues and I really > can't wait for them to come to England for some shows in smaller > venues (Brixton Acadeny!Brixton Academy!Brixton Academy!) > > Hmmmmm...I wouldn't mind snowboarding with Chris either...he could > teach me...or maybe I could introduce him to my dog and we could go > for a nice long walk..................................!Ahem. > > Beck > ''Do you often sing or whistle just for fun?'' - FNM > ------------------------------ From: Glenn Ryan Subject: Track Order I don't know about Soundgarden's control over track order but I have read some where that AIC had control over track order on Dirt. They had the song arranged to tell the story of Layne's battle with drug addiction. As it happened though some of the first CD that came out had the songs in a different order and the band was not ammused so the new copies all have the tracks in the right order. So if AIC has control over track order I guess bands like SG would have control too ------------------------------ From: Steven Albert Kennedy Subject: Re: disco volante I AGREE MY FRIEND THAT MR BUNGLE IS INFACT A DELICATE BAND WITH MUSIC THAT WILL CRUSH YOUR BALLS OR OVARIES( I AM NOT SEXUALLY BIASED, PC) IHAVE BEEN TO BOTH MR BUNGLE TOURS AND I CAN HONESTLY SAY THEY ARE THE GREATEST BAND I HAVE EVER HEARD. CHECK OUT THE CACA VOLANTE WEB SITE IT IS AWESOME. *ALSO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ASK ME ANYTHING ABOUT BUNGLE I CAN TELL YOU. WHAT EACH SONG MEANS OR HOW TO PLAY THE SONGS. I ALSO MET THE BASS PLAYER(TREVOR ROY DUNN) AND THE SINGER(MIKE PATTON) AT THE LAST SHOW. IT WAS THE BEST. "ONE THOUGHT IT LASTS A DAY AND AT THAT RATE HE'LL MOST LIKELY LIVE FOREVER. HE'S A BIRD IN FLIGHT A HERMAPHRODITE AND HE FUCKS HIMSELF AS HE FUCKS THE WORLDDDD" ARIVA DIRCHE, GRAMPS ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Duct tape does wonders. From: seth > > Doen't it look like Chris's shorts in one of the videos (I can't remember > > which) are made of silver duct tape? Duct tape??!? Hmmm... > > I wonder what else he likes to do with duct tape... > > I think we have to assume that it is indeed duct tape on his shorts in > the Loud Love video. Particularly knowing what we now know about his > peculiar, although common, fettish. (I know a number of people who have, > piece by piece, rebuilt entire cars out of the stuff.) > > The Loud Love video was the first SG song I ever encountered way back > when the "Power 30" was still the "Power Hour". And it was the duct tape > that I remembered for years afterwards. I didnt know the name of the band > then. I just knew that there was something about loud love in the song > title and that there was a guy wearing charming silver duct tape shorts. ...and the package for the CD promo "Louder Than Live" is wrapped in duct tape, too... seth ------------------------------ Subject: (Fwd) Track order ( I think) From: marqie@usa.pipeline.com (Marqurite McCurdy) >----- (marqie@usa.pipeline.com(Marqurite McCurdy)) -----< I have been watching the track order debate closely. I bought Superunknown for two songs. I had no clue who these SG people were, but I had been hearing Fell on Black Days and My Wave for weeks. I played these two songs constantly. It was about three weeks before I realized that this was the same band that performed another song (The Day I Tried to Live) I had been hearing the end of on the radio for weeks.....don't snicker....I eventually listened to the whole album. It took about three months and I listened to them out of order. Sure I heard all the songs, but I LISTENED at my own pace. Like all good peotry SG's music is too multi layered to digest quickly. And no I have not listened to all of Badmotorfinger (I only had it two freaking weeks), but to reedeem myself I have made it halfway through the first album. - -- Marqie - -- ------------------------------ From: Michelle Scarrow Subject: Duct tape does wonders. Hello, On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Geoff Kleemola wrote: > > Doen't it look like Chris's shorts in one of the videos (I can't remember > which) are made of silver duct tape? Duct tape??!? Hmmm... I wonder what else he likes to do with duct tape... I think we have to assume that it is indeed duct tape on his shorts in the Loud Love video. Particularly knowing what we now know about his peculiar, although common, fettish. (I know a number of people who have, piece by piece, rebuilt entire cars out of the stuff.) The Loud Love video was the first SG song I ever encountered way back when the "Power 30" was still the "Power Hour". And it was the duct tape that I remembered for years afterwards. I didnt know the name of the band then. I just knew that there was something about loud love in the song title and that there was a guy wearing charming silver duct tape shorts. If it hadnt been for duct tape Chris Cornell would have faded from my memory long before bmf ever saw the light of day. Well, perhaps not completely...I suppose he has a few other memorable qualities. M. ------------------------------ From: ward brandon t Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: reading boot. I think that the reason the Rusty Cage intro on Motorvision is different is cuz Kim runs his guitar through a wah pedal to use as a tone filter, and this varies the timbre (pitch) of the notes. He prob'ly stuck the pedal in a different position, and thus... On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Geoff Kleemola wrote: > The version of Rusty Cage has the same intro, but it sounds different. > I'm not sure what it is about it that's different. There's more > distortion or it's a different octave or something. It sounds really raw > though. (And Chris is playing it) > > >>>-------------------------------> > Geoff Kleemola > gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca > U of Winnipeg Psychology student > http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol > <-------------------------------<<< > > On Thu, 25 Jan 1996 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > > > TO>>The intro to Rusty Cage > > TO>> kinda sucks too. > > TO>No way!!!!! The intro to Rusty Cage sucks? No!!!!!! Heretic!!!! > > TO>Burn at the Stake!!!! > > > > Have you heard Rusty Cage on Motorvision? It's freakin' great! Much > > better than the album version. And it doesn't have that intro. > > > > > > Nothingman > > > > -It's raining icepicks on your steel shore. > > > > ------------------------------ From: JALLEN4115@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU Subject: I got a snake, man! Hello, fellow slaves and bulldozers! I just joined the list last week. I like what I see so far. I think it's so cool to have finally found a bunch of people who have the same reason for living as I do; Soundgarden! Have you guys ever gone through and had a favorite song poll or anything like that? Also, I'm kinda concerned about the EdVed and Cornell debate. To me it's like comparing apples and oranges. Yeah, Chris completely kicks my ass everytime I hear him sing, but so does Ed, it's just in a different way. I don' t think that Chris was trying to "outshine" Eddie on Hunger Strike, nor do I think that Ed was intimidated by Chris when he was singing. They were probably just thinking, let's just play this kick ass song. Well, peace everybody and I'm sure you'll be hearing plenty more of my bullshit in the near future. Justin ------------------------------ From: JALLEN4115@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU Subject: I just thought of something Matt Cameron makes the coolest drummer faces! Anybody heard the new Eleven disk; he drums on like five or six songs I think. That's cuz their old drummer, Jack Irons, for whom the band is named cuz of his eleven toes, went to Pearl Jam. ...The dirt beneath your feeeeeeet... Justin ------------------------------ Subject: Re: thanks for the support..... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >CA>And one last by the way, I have the Loud Love video (called Louder Than >CA>Live) - bought it while on my holidays, in fact! > >Wow. Is it as good as Motorvision? > > Nothingman Motorvision is by far the better tape (not that Louder than Live isn't good), but it is the band as it is today. Louder is choppy to my taste, doesn't focus well on the band. The two video clips (Loud Love and Hands All Over) are your normal MTV stuff. The Live part is just poorly filmed (IMHO). Motorvision gives you more of a concert feel all the way through. The short interviews with the band are fun and informative. And it is so great to watch Ben do his thing. If I were advising someone on a purchase of one or the other - - - Motorvision hands down... Jamie ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Brass instruments My brother plays the sax.... he annoys me... his playing sucks.... OK back to SG :^) URBANO ______________________________________________________________ The aim of every artist is to arrest motion, which is life, by artificial means and hold it fixed so that a hundred years later, when a stranger looks at it, it moves again since it is life. - William Faulkner ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: I got a snake, man! Welcome to the list, man. We are looking forward to your "bullshit" in the near future. Do you really own a snake, or was that a reference to "Get on the Snake"? >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: toybox Subject: Re: Chris's voice > I don't want to bring back the pearljam/soundgarden debate again, Me either, but... The best > example of this is in "Hunger Strike" in (I think) the 3rd verse, Eddie > sings "I don't mind stealin' bread" and Chris just breaks in with "NOOO I > don't mind stealin' bread." It's in that very moment where Chris vocally > thrashes Eddie's ass. This is what i have been not needing to say to the list. Every time someone claims that Eddie Vedder is (hold your breath) possibly better than Chris on vocals, i just play Hunger Strike for them, and say, uh, who's better? > It's cool of Eddie not to have minded that (assuming > he didn't). Maybe he realized the superiority of Chris' vocals or was afraid that Chris would kick his ass if he said something. Also, Chris does the same thing on track 3 of SAP. Even though they turn the volume on his vocal track down much further than the lead, his voice still stands out at the end of the song. -j "I can't help but to be" ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Rusty Cage C'mon, the intro to Rusty Cage is not to be missed. Sure, the following guitar riff is ultramega-hyper, but the first riff builds an incredible amount of tension. The great thing is the ANTICIPATION of the next riff. That's one of the great things about SG, and music with which you are familiar - knowing the next riff, and being driven completely insane anticipating it. The effect is especially intense at a live gig when adrenaline makes you want to jump out of your body...I'm gonna break my Rusty Cage... >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) Subject: Self Pollution Songs In the Self-Pollution radio boot with Pearl Jam, when SG performs their songs, Chris Cornell says, "These songs were all for Cory." Who is Cory? Vasant ************** Vasant Ramamurthy vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu "I don't need your love to disconnect" - An Ode to No One -Smashing Pumpkins http://ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu/~vman/me.html ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: thanks for the support..... Ok, I agree I like Motorvision better, but I do disagree on some points. First, I would not say that MV is as the band is now. I think the common consensus is that Chris does not jump around as much anymore. (he's getting old, I guess) And he now has no hair. But the Louder video is still cool. I'll admit, it is hard to watch the first time, because of the camera angles, but I would not say that it is poorly filmed. Chris's duct tape shorts and the band jumping off the roof at the very end are worth buying it alone...:) >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: I got a snake, man! GK>Welcome to the list, man. We are looking forward to your "bullshit" in GK>the near future. Do you really own a snake, or was that a reference to GK>"Get on the Snake"? No, I think it was a reference to Adam Sandler's skit "Buffon's day at the Principal's Office", or something like that. Nothingman -My neighbor's dog has a four inch clit! ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Cryin in my beer??? TO>I have a long time friend who has always had very similar musical taste TO>except when it comes to Soundgarden. He was diagnosed with a terminal TO>illness a year ago and says that SG is too morose and depressing. He needs TO>to keep a PMA and all that gloomy music is not good for him. I know that Mr TO>Cornell is never going to be asked by Disney to write a Zip-a-dee do dah son TO>for their next animated feature. I admit some of the lyrics are a bit on th TO>gloom and doom side. But when I listen to the music I don't feel like I want TO>to drink a bottle of vodka,empty the medicine cabinet, get the cat and drive TO>my car into Lake Michigan!! What I'm wondering about, is SG a really TO>depressing band but since I like them so much I don't see it that way? Does TO>anyone else find them morose?? or have friends that do? - T When I'm depressed, I listen to it (usually Superunknown...or Mind Riot), get more depressed, and somehow feel better. When I'm happy, I turn it up as loud as it will go, and I scream along with it while I dance around. It's all kinds-of-moods music. Nothingman -I've been caught in a mind riot. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Chris's voice TO>The best TO>> example of this is in "Hunger Strike" in (I think) the 3rd verse, Eddie TO>> sings "I don't mind stealin' bread" and Chris just breaks in with "NOOO I TO>> don't mind stealin' bread." It's in that very moment where Chris vocally TO>> thrashes Eddie's ass. TO>This is what i have been not needing to say to the list. Every time TO>someone claims that Eddie Vedder is (hold your breath) possibly better TO>than Chris on vocals, i just play Hunger Strike for them, and say, uh, TO>who's better? I didn't even know Eddie sang on that for the longest time. I mean, Chris and Eddie sound a lot alike when they're in the lower ranges (except eddie does that weird breathing thing after every line) but Chris kicks his ass in the higher ranges. I think that's why I didn't notice, because Eddie stays low on Hunger Strike, and Chris does all the wailing. That's a mark of a good singer....to be able to sing low convincingly, and sing high in focus and with a nice sound. I hate to say it, but I've heard Axl Rose sing pretty good in high registers (although he usually doesn't) and he has a great low voice (he just never uses it). Not that he's better than Chris (doesn't even come close), but he isn't as bad as people say. TO>> It's cool of Eddie not to have minded that (assuming TO>> he didn't). TO>Maybe he realized the superiority of Chris' vocals or was afraid that TO>Chris would kick his ass if he said something. Maybe Eddie did mind and Chris did kick his ass. Or maybe they're both gay....ok, ok, just kidding. :) TO>Also, Chris does the same thing on track 3 of SAP. Even though they TO>turn the volume on his vocal track down much further than the lead, TO>his voice still stands out at the end of the song. -j Wow. Does he sing a lot on this? Did he help write any of it? I assume you mean AIC EP Sap. Am I right? Just wondering. Nothingman -Oh no, I'm gonna log off.... ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: thanks for the support..... JS>The short JS>interviews with the band are fun and informative. Who are those people anyway? That one guy is annoying (the one that says he helped MAtt set up his drums sometimes). JS> And it is so great to wat JS>Ben do his thing. He's a freak. I like when he makes that stupid face in Little Joe. And does he EVER stand upright? Is he fully evolved? Nothingman -I think he's just a shaved ape that kicks ass at bass... ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: I got a snake, man! JA>Also, I'm kinda concerned about the EdVed and Cornell debate. To me JA>it's like comparing apples and oranges. Yeah, Chris completely kicks my ass JA>everytime I hear him sing, but so does Ed, it's just in a different way. I JA>don' JA>t think that Chris was trying to "outshine" Eddie on Hunger Strike, nor do I JA>think that Ed was intimidated by Chris when he was singing. They were proba JA>just thinking, let's just play this kick ass song. Well, peace everybody an JA>I'm sure you'll be hearing plenty more of my bullshit in the near future. Wow. You said it, man. And I like the way you said it too. My thoughts just don't come to me in order. Maybe I need a producer to do it for me. Nothingman -I've gone hungry...... ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: thanks for the support..... GK> I think the GK>common consensus is that Chris does not jump around as much anymore. GK>getting old, I guess) And he now has no hair. Maybe this is because he almost always has to play the guitar, now. On Motorvision, when he has the guitar, he doesn't move much...ok, so he jumps a few times, but compaired to when he's not playing, he stands still with the guitar. And, on Motorvision, before Room a Thousand Years Wide, does Chris have on glasses? He says, "I can't see a fuckin' thing." or something. Nothingman -One who loved what love denied. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Ummm..stuff JY>> TO>> JY> 1) call attention to an otherwise suck ass band JY>> TO>> JY> (I have one in mind, but I don't want to start a JY>> TO>> JY> war), JY>> TO>> JY>> TO>> Aww...come on, start one. You know you want to. :) I think thisone JY>> TO>> applies to about every death metal band. JY>> TO>My guess is that whoever this is is talking about Metallica. JY>____________________________________________________________________________ JY> No, didn't really have metallica in mind. I was thinking slayer, king JY>diamond, oh no here it comes..... =-* JY>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% JY>> JY>> TO>> JY> 2).Serve satan, our master (kidding) JY>> TO>> JY>> TO>> Danzig. JY>> TO>I'd say you are right there. JY>>__________________________________________________________________________ JY> Oh yeah, Danzig too.I wouldn't go so far as to say Danzig is a suck ass JY>band, but that guy with the big neck is funny to watch JY>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% JY>> a song called "Danzig Needs a Hug." I thought that was funny as hell JY>> (good word for the conversation). JY>____________________________________________________________________________ JY> I've never heard it, but some friends of mine wrote a song about trent JY>reznor. "Oh trent,why are you so angry? Would it help if we talked....do JY>you need a hug?" JY>***************jennifer***************************************************** I really don't like those serious devil bands. Like Danzig and Slayer. Metallica doesn't address those things in many of their songs, like the others. And White Zombie doesn't make any sense at all. And then there's Soundgarden, which I haven't figured out yet. I'm SURE they're not devil people though. Nothingman -The devil says, "AAAAAHHHHHHRRRRRRRRGGGGG!!!!!!" ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 21] ***************************************