From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 29 Jan 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 02:18:26 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 29 Jan 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re:Listen Speaking of old pictures... Re: This isn't faith No More anymore... Bootlegs Microsoft Sampler Re: Take me off!!! Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995 Happy Anniversary! woohoo! Re: hello all! Re: Ummm..stuff Time of the Preacher radio sucks! Lyrics??? URL amendment Re: U2, Koalas Louder Than Live Band asciis Chris's voice Re: Louder Than Live 2 official websites? Track order Lolla '96 More Track order YO Re: 2 official websites? webbbbbbbbb ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re:Listen I'm sure there are no corporations which have a hand at choosing the order of soundgarden's songs. (or any other band I listen to). I believe I've heard Chris say they play a big part in that. They even got in there for the making of AITS. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: Kelly Christa Jones Subject: Speaking of old pictures... I went to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame over x-mas break. I remember reading Rolling Stone or something a while back that said there was a picture of Chris Cornell when he was 6 there. So guess what I went to first?..the "Seattle Sound" display. Chris Cornell was so funny/cute looking. It was one of those pictures where they handcolor the cheeks red and stuff...wild. They also had a bunch of posters from early shows where SG opened f or Soul Asylum (!). And the guitar he used in the Loud Love video (it had the same sticker on it that I have on my car! I felt special. Wow.) They also had a lot of Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam stuff. On all of the little cards that described all of the items in the display said "Courtesy of Susan Silver Archives" or something...so she gave Chris's baby pictures to a museum.! Sorry for this tangent. Kelly On Fri, 26 Jan 1996 Tonerkins@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 96-01-25 23:59:05 EST, lovedog@txdirect.net (mauricio) > writes: > > >has anyone ever seen kim without his "jesus christ pose" beard? > > The "Screaming Life" Book A chronicle of the Seattle Music Scene with > photographs by Charles Peterson has a picture of Soundgarden in 1985. Kim is > beardless and his hair appears to be fairly short. There is also a beardless > Kim picture in the other Soundgarden Book "New Metal Crown" by Chris Nickson. > He just looks like a young Indian dude. Now he looks like a mystical Indian > dude that plays a mean ass guitar!! T > ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: This isn't faith No More anymore... TO>> FO>Chris rules =) I guess he skateboards, too.. He does all those really TO>> FO>awesome sports that I would love to participate in but re too scared of TO>> FO>broken bones =) TO>> TO>> That would be so cool if he skateboarded too. I love to TO>> skateboard... TO>Hey, skateboarders are supposed to hate snowboarders for stealing all TO>their names of tricks and stuff. I used to be a skateboarder. TO>Pretty fun until i broke two decks in the same week. One wasn't mine. :( Really? All the skateboarders I know are kick ass snowboarders. It's because they just took the skateboarding tricks and did them on a snowboard...and higher in the air. And then there's me...Mr. I Could Snowboard If I Had a Decent One. TO>and mountain bike. Wow. Wouldn't that be cool. A day of TO>> snowboarding, mountain biking, and skateboarding, followed by an TO>> evening of him playing me songs that he has never released. Sounds TO>> like a date to me, but I'm straight. I would hope he is..... ;) TO>Well, he is kinda married, so you shouldn't hit on him too much. ;) Maybe he'd change for me. I mean, he does have a fork. ;) TO>> FO>I'd LOVE to jam with him sometime... play some Loud Love TO>> FO>or maybe Blind Dogs or something.. I'm drewling at the thought... hehe. TO>> FO>or just hang out with him, watch some Golden Girls reruns.. He seems TO>> FO>like a fun guy.. fungi? TO>> TO>> Fungi? Only if his wife is nasty. :) TO>I don't get it. Explicas, por favor. Oh, nevermind.... Nothingman -Breathing life like fire.... ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Bootlegs Hi. I'm looking for the REading 95 bootleg. where can i pick it uP? anyone willing to trade? I have SOMMS and a crapload of misc. songs in return. bye now. Gregg "Don't come over here and piss on my gate. Save it, ___________ just keep it off my Wave" --My Wave, Soundgarden | | | Soul Sick | "Go avay or i vill taunt you a zecond time" anonymous |___________| French man. melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net ------------------------------ Subject: Microsoft Sampler From: seth Here's the info about the Microsoft CD Sampler, direct: - ------- Forwarded Message From: "Phil Coady (S&T OnSite)" To: seth Subject: RE: MS Sampler and Soundgarden Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 12:46:40 -0800 Seth, The Microsoft Sampler includes portions of the Soundgarden multimedia title from nu_millenia entitled "Alive in the Superunknown". There is one full CD track from SG on the Sampler, "Fell on Back Days". There is a multimedia segment on the band, again this is taken from the nu_millenia title. The enhanced CD by nu_millenia was released in late 1995, and you should be able to find it at most CD stores. - - ---------- From: seth[SMTP:saperl@MIT.EDU] Sent: Friday, January 26, 1996 3:51 PM To: Microsoft Music Evangelism - External Alias Subject: MS Sampler and Soundgarden Hello, could you tell me how Soundgarden is involved in the MS Sampler? Are there audio tracks by this band, and if so, which ones are they? Is there a multimedia section devoted to Soundgarden as well? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Seth Perlman - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Take me off!!! From: seth > Please take moondruid@aol.com off the mailing list... > > Because I'm getting a REAL internet connection!!! I'll email Seth with it as > soon as I get it!!! > > Moon Druid Oh, the shame of it all...the Chief Gardener has sent an unsubscribe message to the list. Of all the people... s. ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995 Well I can't really blame you for wanting to kick me since I still can't get over what a BLITHERING idiot I was, either.. but if Soundgarden does play Lolla, by God, I'm going to "run into" Chris Cornell and get his autograph!! But I'm scared that he'll get pissed off at me for approaching him and say 'get outta here, you smelly lil fart' and make me cry.. I cry quite easily.. but by God it's DEFINITELY worth trying.. Foreshocks ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995 FO>Well I can't really blame you for wanting to kick me since I still can't FO>get over what a BLITHERING idiot I was, either.. but if Soundgarden does FO>play Lolla, by God, I'm going to "run into" Chris Cornell and get his FO>autograph!! But I'm scared that he'll get pissed off at me for FO>approaching him and say 'get outta here, you smelly lil fart' and make FO>me cry.. I cry quite easily.. but by God it's DEFINITELY worth trying.. FO>Foreshocks Get yelled at once for me. ;) Nothingman -And get an autograph for me too. :) ------------------------------ Subject: Happy Anniversary! From: seth The mailing list is 6 months old today. Thanks, everyone, for making it such a success. Also, the Web page counter on the unofficial SG page flipped today to 30000 hits (since Sat Sep 23 01:11:17 EDT 1995). Thanks to all of you who have contributed to the project. Keep sending everything you have! seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: woohoo! seth put my tablature on the web page! woohoo! thanks.. well, it's there, if anyone wants bass to blind dogs, fell on black days demo, or kyle petty, it's there.. one small problem though, when i went to look a blind dogs on the web page it had a bunch of brackets running through it like this: ]]]]]]]]]]]] It got kinda messed up. Sorry about that :( I didn't do that though, that happened somewhere on the inet... anyone want me to resend it? ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: hello all! TO>> I play the trumpet and about every other brass instrument, and I can TO>> play the guitar and bass. My singing isn't all that bad, either. That TO>> would be cool to have a rock band with trumpets and brass. TO>Um, Dave Matthews? -j I was thinking more guitars (electric) and more brass. Like Soundgarden's hard stuff with brass. LOTS of brass, not just one little puny sax. I wouldn't even want a sax (wimpy wood-wind), just a lot of trumpets and french horns. Nothingman -Wash your women in your whiskey. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Ummm..stuff TO>> JY> 1) call attention to an otherwise suck ass band TO>> JY> (I have one in mind, but I don't want to start a TO>> JY> war), TO>> TO>> Aww...come on, start one. You know you want to. :) I think thisone TO>> applies to about every death metal band. TO>My guess is that whoever this is is talking about Metallica. They aren't that bad. Except their first couple albums. I do like their black album a whole lot, though. I guess I'm just a poseur. TO>> JY> 2).Serve satan, our master (kidding) TO>> TO>> Danzig. TO>I'd say you are right there. I saw an article with some band (can't remember the name) and they have a song called "Danzig Needs a Hug." I thought that was funny as hell (good word for the conversation). TO>Sonwboarder! I'm a better skiier. But I can snowboard pretty ok. I've never sonwboarded, though. :) Nothingman -You longed to taste the shame that everybody tries. ------------------------------ From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Subject: Time of the Preacher Hey List! head over to http://www.justicerecords.com/twisted.html (I hope I copied the URL correctly) and check out the Twisted Willie web site. It's got song bio's, audio clips (Kim's guitar riff is pretty cool on the song "time of the preacher"), and details about a benefit concert in Feb. that may? (I dont know) include Mr. Thayil. The only bad part of the site is....It doesnt include a link to Seth's site. But, has a link to the official (and the word 'official' is emphasized) SG web site located not at rocktropolis.com but at imusic.com Speaking of Web Sites, mine has undergone YET another facelift. The 2 or 3 of you that actually comment on it....take a look please. I'm working on a real imagemap, not the fake one that's there. I'm looking for detailed set lists for the following: (artist and track). SUB POP Rock City - compilation on Germany's Glitterhouse label. Program Annihilator Vol. 2 Lost Angels - Soundtrack Fuck Me I'm Rich Pave the Earth Kerrang! - The album True Romance - Soundtrack Get Your Rocks Off Maxi Music Home Alive I'm still looking for info on the bootleg _After the Rain_ - set lists for the SG boot video's. I may set up a video tree with certain people. email me if your interested. And missing DAT or tape masters from the non-CD bootleg archive. For those of you that want to see the SG video "Flower". I say we all email bomb (for lack of a better term) MTV's 120 Minute mailbox. They have an email address which I dont know. Someone post it...then we will start our campaign of terror until they play the video. More Great SG finds: TDITTL CD-single $4.99 Flower CD-single $4.79 I've had the Flower single on tape forever...but since Record Theatre was trying to get rid of em cheap...I couldnt pass either one up. If anyone sees a CD-single with Beyond the Wheel (live) or FoBD (live) for under 10 bucks, tell me. Steve - - swr@acsu.buffalo.edu - - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr - - SG Web Alliance ------------------------------ From: pkuhl@npcts.edu (Phelipe) Subject: radio sucks! i would just like to say that radio sucks! and to lenart, be glad that the damn radio doesn't play songs like "4th of july" and "like suicide", because they would kill those songs too. phil ------------------------------ From: "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" Subject: Lyrics??? My funniest one I can think of: (Birth Ritual!) I am Magneto... You Frolic Re(b)els... Oh god...too much x-men exposure!! d:-P That's all...c-ya in the superunknown!! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kyle Petty, Son of Richard \|/ ______ \|/ "Malo si si, malo si no ~@- / oO \ -@~ ni preguntes..." /__( \____/ )__\ No me acuerdo ahora \___U__/ ------------------------------ From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Subject: URL amendment >head over to http://www.justicerecords.com/twisted.html >(I hope I copied the URL correctly) I, of course, didnt. The correct URL is http://www.justicerecords.com/twisted.htm You can find a link in the SG discog. >and check out the Twisted Willie web site. It's still a cool site. :-) Steve - - swr@acsu.buffalo.edu - - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr - - SG Web Alliance ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: U2, Koalas At 10:05 AM 25/01/96 -0800, Matthew Souza wrote: >Hey listers, I haven't been back on the list for very long so I don't >really know what the hell is going on (not a new concept for me) Took me a while to catch up also........ >I have probably said this stuff and more about Bungle in the past so >disregard this message and go read something else. I'm sure you have a >new message from Nothingman, or Carolyn may have some useful insights on >U2 or koalas or something along those lines. > > Matthew. To Matthew Souza (I'll never forget that name) - There'll be no insights on either U2 or koalas from Carolyn the Mournful & Forgotten. Koalas may be cute (like all Australians, of course!) but they are boring (UNLIKE Australians). And U2 will never be Soundgarden, so I'll be leaving them off the list too. But yes, I'm sure there's a new message from Nothingman to read! :-) Adios Carolyn the Mythical Force ************************************************************** So don't you lock up something that you wanted to see fly...Soundgarden You aren't even listening; take your dreams and go away...Pennywise ************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Louder Than Live Got that video while on my holidays recently. It's great! But I'm curious: was it only this video release in Australia or do all the releases of this particular video have the songs listed on the back cover in completely the wrong order????? Cheers Carolyn the Morale-boosting Foible ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore - SOUNDGARDEN He was an artist and a writer and a poet and a friend - RANCID ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: Band asciis *:^{|> how 'bout this one for Chris? Benjamin Timberlake I will show you fear Northwestern University in a handful of dust. btimlake@nwu.edu - T.S. Eliot, "The Wasteland" "You get your chance to try in the twinkling of an eye - eighty years with luck or even less." - Pink Floyd, 'Free Four' ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: Chris's voice I don't want to bring back the pearljam/soundgarden debate again, but I was thinking about this while listening to TOD. I really like pearl jam, but I like soundgarden a lot more. Though the reasons for this vary, one that leaps to mind is that Chris's voice appeals to me a lot more. The best example of this is in "Hunger Strike" in (I think) the 3rd verse, Eddie sings "I don't mind stealin' bread" and Chris just breaks in with "NOOO I don't mind stealin' bread." It's in that very moment where Chris vocally thrashes Eddie's ass. It's cool of Eddie not to have minded that (assuming he didn't). - Ben Benjamin Timberlake I will show you fear Northwestern University in a handful of dust. btimlake@nwu.edu - T.S. Eliot, "The Wasteland" "You get your chance to try in the twinkling of an eye - eighty years with luck or even less." - Pink Floyd, 'Free Four' ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: Louder Than Live Mine are in the wrong order too, and I'm from Canada. Mine came with the nifty entry form to win the shattered remnants of Everman's bass. This entry form can be seen on Seth's website. A great video in any case. Doen't it look like Chris's shorts in one of the videos (I can't remember which) are made of silver duct tape? Duct tape??!? Hmmm... >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Carolyn wrote: > Got that video while on my holidays recently. It's great! But I'm curious: > was it only this video release in Australia or do all the releases of this > particular video have the songs listed on the back cover in completely the > wrong order????? > > Cheers > Carolyn the Morale-boosting Foible > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore - SOUNDGARDEN > He was an artist and a writer and a poet and a friend - RANCID > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: 2 official websites? Steve mentioned that some site mentioned that the official SG website is located at imusic.com. I decided to check it out, and there appears to be a mirror of the rocktropolis site there. Anybody else see this, or even know about it? I didn't. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: Track order >Ok, i see yall's point here, but i cannot agree. Skipping songs and >self programming is a good thing. I don't do it much now, but i do >it still. Instead of letting the corporations who probably have a >big say in what goes where control your mind and preferences, (just >look at how many otherwise musically adept people have Hootie songs >in their heads), you get to put YOUR OWN self into the selection >process. True, it does destroy the whole of the album, but whose to >say you can't create other just as good moods youself by your own >programming? -j What makes you think the corporation has _anything_ to do with the order of the tracks? In soundgarden's case, at least, the band and the producer decide in what order the tracks run. There's nothing wrong with listening to your favorite tracks. YOu don't always have time to listen to the entire album. But the way the album is set up is in a definite order to create a mood or feeling. When I hear a song on the radio, say, Black Hole Sun (what a surprise), as soon as it's over, I start singing spoonman. Of course, if Hootie and the Blowfish or something else comes on (as it invariably does), then I go listen to superunknown in its entirety. It's just being able to appreciate all of what the band puts out. I'm hard-put to think of a soundgarden song that isn't aurally pleasing in some respect. - Ben Benjamin Timberlake I will show you fear Northwestern University in a handful of dust. btimlake@nwu.edu - T.S. Eliot, "The Wasteland" "You get your chance to try in the twinkling of an eye - eighty years with luck or even less." - Pink Floyd, 'Free Four' ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Lolla '96 Ok, does anybody know where Lolla usually stops? Is it at the same locations every year? Was it in Minnesota last year? If it stops in Minnesota, and Soundgarden is on it, will anybody on the list be headed that way? I, for one, will be there. We should make it a pilgrimage. We could meet and have some kind of ritualistic, ceremonial, Soundgarden-praising, devil worshipping, Jesus-defending, "every word I said is what I mean", "feeling Minnesota", "sitting here like uninvited company, wallowing in my own obscenities...", "all my friends are skeletons", type therapy group. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: More Track order >If bands really did have so much control over their track order on >albums, how come over 50 percent of the albums i own with hit singles >have track number three as one of, if not the biggest, hits? > >I, of course have my own theory. It goes back to when tapes were the >most popular things. If you put your hit single first, no one would >need to listen to the rest of the tape. Nirvana violated this as does >Dave Grohl, though. But, it pretty much holds true for a lot of >bands. And putting the hit single third, you force the listener to >hear two other songs by your band and get them into your complete sound >rather than just the sound of the single. Now, i think more record >companies would realize these things before bands. At least before the >newly signed bands. But who knows? Just my theory. -j I actually had a long discussion with my friends one time and we came to the conclusion that the most typical track on which to have a hit single was #7. We had a fairly varied selection to choose from, but in a small group you don't really get a huge sample. As far as order being important, I'm a big Pink Floyd fan as well. On their albums, order is just as important as the music itself. Take 'The Wall,' for example. It would not be the magnum Opus it is were the order of the songs drastically changed. The order is somewhat changed in the movie, but the sequence of feelings is consistent. - Ben "Nothingman for a day" P.S. just loking NM, I think your posts are in general pretty good. Benjamin Timberlake I will show you fear Northwestern University in a handful of dust. btimlake@nwu.edu - T.S. Eliot, "The Wasteland" "You get your chance to try in the twinkling of an eye - eighty years with luck or even less." - Pink Floyd, 'Free Four' ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: YO BOOGIESHOES...........find them!!!!! ------------------------------ Subject: Re: 2 official websites? From: seth > Steve mentioned that some site mentioned that the official SG website is > located at imusic.com. I decided to check it out, and there appears to > be a mirror of the rocktropolis site there. Anybody else see this, or > even know about it? I didn't. Indeed, it's been mirrored there since the beginning. Imusic is responsible for the site, even though it's stored at Rocktropolis, too. It's possible that there is only one copy of the site, and that there's nothing more at Imusic than a http redirect. This could be easily determined with a network packet sniffer, but I don't have one. seth ------------------------------ Subject: webbbbbbbbb From: seth remember when i said that i wasn't going to keep posting whenever i added stuff to the website (http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden)? i lied. i'm only posting because the addition was rather large: 31 (yes, thirty-one) new images. chris mackenzie and i had fun with scanners this weekend, it seems. lots of good stuff, including some concert shots that deb of anthropic images (and syzygy, http://www.sgi.net/syzygy) took and lots of soundgarden rarities. seth ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 20] ***************************************