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Today's Topics:
 

                        from my brother, some info...
                            Back-masking follies
                                Re: Grungies
                           Re: wallets and seasons
                              NO LOLLAPALOOZA!
                               brassmasters...
                             Re: sorta related..
                                Re: Grungies
                             Re: sorta related..
                Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995
                           Re: wallets and seasons
                           (fwd) Re: reading boot.
                             Misconstrued Lyrics
                         Re: (fwd) Re: reading boot.
                                   Listen
        you're stuck with me again.......thoughts on singers........
                      Re: Faith No More and Mr. Bungle
                Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995
                      Foundation Forum '91 + SG comics
                             Re: sorta related..
                            lollapa.....winna!?!
                       Been there,done that, have it.
                             HOW THIS LIST WORKS
                                   clowns
                         why do you like the music??
                Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995
                         Re: temple of the dog boots
                                      
                               sorta related..
                                Re: Grungies
                            Back-masking follies
                           (fwd) Re: reading boot.
                             Misconstrued Lyrics
                      Re: Faith No More and Mr. Bungle
             you're stuck with me again.......thoughts on singe
                             HOW THIS LIST WORKS
                                     Re:
                                      
                                disco volante
                              Soundgarden Book
                                Re: Grungies

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Subject: from my brother, some info...
From: seth <saperl@MIT.EDU>


i got this today from my brother...i think what he's trying to say (in
his own peculiar dialect of english) is that it's official that
soundgarden will be playing lollapalooza this summer.

- ------- Forwarded Message

Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 19:40:00 -0500 (EST)
To: saperl@MIT.EDU
Subject: lalapalooza

hey seth...

they just said on z100 [rolling stone's station of the year?!] that 
Metallica was MOST LIKELY going to be headlining lalapalooza.. what I 
found more interesting, is Soundgarden has already signed on? and they're 
not the "headliners"? I'd think that SG fits the bill more than Metallica 
as being the "alternative" choice.. hmmmm.. foo fighters are playing too.


- ------- End of Forwarded Message


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From: smisch@tiac.net (Smisch)
Subject: Back-masking follies

>From: "Michael V. Ledesma" <mike@dostmis.gov.ph>
>Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 22 Jan 1995
>
>BACKWARD MESSAGES on track 665 on the UltraMega?
>Wow!  this back-masking thing is really sweeping everybody, even
>here...

"...santa is my king. santa is my king. hell. i love you santa baby. you
got what i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed."

I know. This has been covered before.
I'm bored.




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From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" <billsbar@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Grungies

On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Jennifer C Graham wrote:

> I saw the Ben Stiller Show about a week or two ago and they had a skit 
> called "The Grungies".  It was so damn funny because Ben Stiller was 
> supposed to look like Chris Cornell (and he did so I actually didn't 
> change the channel).  One of the other guys looked like Kurt Cobain.  
> They totally stereotyped the Seattle scene portrayed all of them to be 
> grungie scumbags who suck playing music.  In the end of the skit they 
> were actually signed to a record label.
> 
> It was so funny.  Did anyone else see it?
> Jenn
> 
much as i ahve always hated ben stiller, his show from the early nineties 
or whenever was really quite good. i thought that the grungies one was 
one of his better skits. the only comedy show i liked better was kids in 
the hall really. certainly wasn't the state

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From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" <billsbar@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: wallets and seasons

On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Kate Mercier wrote:

> I think that Chris making a wallet really isn't all that bizarre.  He's 
> in a studio for god's sake.  I'ts boring sometimes.  I think it 
> symbolizes and respresents that he's making a wallets out of duct-tape, 
> presumably to hold his money and credit cards and pictures of me.  Does 
> it have to mean anything more?
> 
> About seasons... I've always sang it as:
> 
> Summer nights and long warm days
> starving as the old moon falls
> and the mirror shows another face
> another place to hide it all...
> 
> but who knows, maybe I'm on crack.
> Love, Kate
> 


i always thought the one line went


staring at the old moon full

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From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" <billsbar@umich.edu>
Subject: NO LOLLAPALOOZA!

i had heard the unfortunate news that there is not going to be a 
lollapalooza this summer. word is that perry farrell has decided not to 
pursue it this year in favor of working on stuff with his band. i did 
hear it from a relatively good source, one of the radio stations is 
relatively well connected in the music industry, especially with regard 
to alternative stuff (well, only in regard to alt stuff, but you get it) 
so i believe that, at this time, there is not any plan for lollapalooza, 
unless someone else has picked up the torch, and perry is allowing them 
to carry it.

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From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote)
Subject: brassmasters...

in response to the discussion on cool bands with brass, here's a few 
suggestions...

THE URGE - this is a metal-funk-ska type band from st. louis. they're 
one of the greatest live bands i've ever seen...imagine mighty mighty 
bosstones (another good brassy band) with more soul. (they have a 
little midget singer who screams, croons, raps, jumps around...awesome
to watch) they have a standard vocal/guitar/bass/drum lineup plus two 
trombones and a sax. anywayz, their last album is called `receiving 
the gift of flavor' and is highly recommended by this listener.

MORPHINE - anyone who pays any attention to me knows of my love for 
this band. they have a vocal/2-string slide bass/sax/drum lineup, 
which makes for one of the most unique sounds in the music biz. buy 
any of their albums and prepare for a journey into the land of the 
lounge lizards...

ROSEGARDEN FUNERAL - i don't know if the `garden' reference was 
intentional, but this midwestern band does seem to take a lot of 
influence from soundgarden. they have a standard lineup plus a sax, 
which really adds a lot to their sound.

which makes me wonder...i know sg used a sax in `rooms a 1000 yrs 
wide', although it was basically just a noise solo towards the end of 
the song. i would like to see sg experiment with some bad-ass brass on
a few songs. just give a listen to any of the above-mentioned bands, 
fishbone, they might be giants, etc....brass instruments add a lot to 
their songs, and in the case of morphine, they ARE the songs. OK, i'll
admit...saxes are technically not brass instruments, but usually they 
are arranged more like brasses in full-band arrangements than 
reeds...

ANYWAYZ...bottom line...the boys should wet their lips and do some 
reed/brass work...that would pretty much solidify them among the 
greatest bands of all time. (a title they've basically achieved 
already, in my book)

later...

- - grote

########################################################################
#        GROTE!!!!!	"I don't remember half the time                #
#                          If I'm hiding or I'm lost                   #
# jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu     But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell   #
########################################################################


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From: Holland N B <nbholl@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: sorta related..


On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, toybox wrote:

> Well, whomever that was that said to give them one good reason to 
> like g'n'r, here's one:  On the Spaghetti Incident, they covered a 
> sg song! (Big Dumb Sex).  So there is your reason.  -j
> 
>           
> 
Well, just 'cause they covered an SG song we don't all have like them.  
The cover in version is okay, but you have to remember what else they 
have covered (Charles Manson songs for instance).  

Other bands have covered SG songs better include a local band where I am 
from originally (Horsham in Sussex, Southern England) called Firestain 
who really kick butt.

Anyway gotta go Loadsa Luck Nik.


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From: Eric Lanning <ericl@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Grungies

Dan, HOW CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT THE STATE?!?! I thought I knew 
you. I actually saw that Grungies thing too; it was funny, but not as 
funny as the State. 

"I wanna dip my balls in it!"

On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Jennifer C Graham wrote:
> 
> > I saw the Ben Stiller Show about a week or two ago and they had a skit 
> > called "The Grungies".  It was so damn funny because Ben Stiller was 
> > supposed to look like Chris Cornell (and he did so I actually didn't 
> > change the channel).  One of the other guys looked like Kurt Cobain.  
> > They totally stereotyped the Seattle scene portrayed all of them to be 
> > grungie scumbags who suck playing music.  In the end of the skit they 
> > were actually signed to a record label.
> > 
> > It was so funny.  Did anyone else see it?
> > Jenn
> > 
> much as i ahve always hated ben stiller, his show from the early nineties 
> or whenever was really quite good. i thought that the grungies one was 
> one of his better skits. the only comedy show i liked better was kids in 
> the hall really. certainly wasn't the state
> 

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From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com
Subject: Re: sorta related..

hehe, my band (Restraint) covered Soundgarden at our friend Sunshine's
birthday party.. we played all our hits, including 'Guilty' =), about
the OJ Trial, and I was DYING to play Soundgarden. The guitarist kept
yelling at me because he doesn't know any Soundgarden, but I persuaded
my band to play. I usually play bass, but I played guitar and made up
this really cheesey solo =) and Jeremy the singer forgot the lyrics but
he ad-libbed pretty well. My friend John played bass for it. It was the
closest I've ever come to covering Soundgarden, and I was satisfied.
Nowadays I'd love to play Blind Dogs or something, but it ain't gonna
happen. I want to find some fellow Soundgarden addicts that live around
me and jam with them, but there AREN'T any. =( Although I was in this
guitar store when the bass player from O.Z Willis and I played Loud Love
together.. him on guitar, me on bass. THAT was amazing. I wish I saw
that guy more. =) Ok, I'll shut up
Foreshocks
oh btw the song my band played was Outshined



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From: Vassilis Theoharis <vtheoh@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995

Did anyone notice that there is a 1996 Faith No More calendar in the
market including 11 photos related to Faith No More and a photo of Kim
Thayil!!!!! Does he look like Jim Martin or what???



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From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: wallets and seasons

> About seasons... I've always sang it as:
> 
> Summer nights and long warm days
> starving as the old moon falls
> and the mirror shows another face
> another place to hide it all...

I'm not sure about the crack problem but I think you've got something 
there w/ the first line.  It certainly does sound like summer nites.

p.s. stay off the crack

Curt

> 
> but who knows, maybe I'm on crack.
> Love, Kate
> 

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From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka)
Subject: (fwd) Re: reading boot.


BT>hey nothingman, you stole my favorite phrase, so give it back before
BT>you...well,... you know....share a cigarette with negativity and draw
BT>flies and stuff...heh, heh...

>Naw, it was mine first.  :)  Doesn't that song kick ass though?  People
>on this list always talk about New Damage and Holy Water from
>Badmotorfinger, but I think Drawing Flies is much better than both of
>those.  It's short, but it rocks.
    To add my two cents, I think the intro to that song turns people off. It
    sound like the cd is skipping. Anyway I finally listened to it all the way
    during finals week last semester. It's a great song.
        Clown

>Nothingman

 >  -Sitting there like wet ashes with Xs in your eyes and drawing flies.


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From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka)
Subject: Misconstrued Lyrics

To whomever I've cured,
    The lyric I messed up was on spoonman when he says "all my friends are
    skeletons"  I always thought he said "all my friends are scared or dead"
    and on beyond the wheel instead of "between your house and the home" I
    heard "between your house and the holy" anyway thats my canadian .5 cents
    for the day.
        ClownWithBazooka

    
*******************************************************************************
    Hey, Smokestack lightning
        Wheels still coming slow
                                -Howling Wolf


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From: Holland N B <nbholl@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: reading boot.


On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, ClownWithBazooka wrote:

> 
> 
> BT>hey nothingman, you stole my favorite phrase, so give it back before
> BT>you...well,... you know....share a cigarette with negativity and draw
> BT>flies and stuff...heh, heh...
> 
> >Naw, it was mine first.  :)  Doesn't that song kick ass though?  People
> >on this list always talk about New Damage and Holy Water from
> >Badmotorfinger, but I think Drawing Flies is much better than both of
> >those.  It's short, but it rocks.
>     To add my two cents, I think the intro to that song turns people off. It
>     sound like the cd is skipping. Anyway I finally listened to it all the way
>     during finals week last semester. It's a great song.
>         Clown
> 
> >Nothingman
> 
>  >  -Sitting there like wet ashes with Xs in your eyes and drawing flies.
> 
> 
Yeah, that's true, they ain't really that good.  Thebands kinda coll, and 
all the lads and lassies in it are great people but apart from a couple 
of quite good covers (they also do a cool version of Polly) they don't 
really know how to play anything.  Never mind eh!
Loadsa Luck Nik!!


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From: ansel@morgan.com
Subject: Listen

     With regard to "Drawing Flies", Clown wrote:  I think the 
     intro. to that song turns people off.  Anyway, I finally 
     listened to it all the way.  It's a great song.
     
     I (Vikki) need to step in here for a moment.  SG have always 
     maintained that their albums are cohesive bodies of sound -- 
     meaning that the track placements were intentional.  As a 
     fan of SG, you cheat yourself when you only listen to 
     certain tracks on a given CD.  (Of course, we all have our 
     favorites that have nearly dislodged the repeat buttons on 
     our stereos.)  I'm just saying that SG are, as we all know, 
     very unique with respect to mood changes (or consistency) on 
     each very different album, and when you skip certain tracks 
     in favor of other individual songs, the 'intended' mood of 
     the work is interrupted and lost.  IMHO, give the mood of 
     the ENTIRE PIECE a chance to be absorbed in through your 
     nerve endings or something of the SG experience gets missed!
     
     Vikki

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From: Carolyn <carolyn.hanel@mtg.for.csiro.au>
Subject: you're stuck with me again.......thoughts on singers........

Howdy all!  Yes, Carolyn the Music Freak has returned.

I'm still catching up - have the last seven digests to read yet - but
thought I'd better pipe up and send you all an Australian Gidday and then
throw in my two bobs' worth on the Billy Corgan etc. etc. singing issue that
has been thrashed quite a bit in the digests I've read already..........

Now, my friend Glenn started all of that (good to see you still like to keep
probing our minds for intelligent (?!) debating, Glenn!) and I don't want to
argue with anyone here about who is a "good" singer, who isn't so "good",
who is a "talented" musician, and who isn't......

BUT!!  I DO want to share my thoughts with you:  if every day consisted of
blue sky and sunshine and there was never any wind or rain, and if every
country had lush green pastures without any mountains, and if every garden
contained only red flowers without any other colour, and if every person in
the world had the same ideas and opinions...................then wouldn't
that become rather dull and boring?

And if every band had a "perfect" singer (who didn't sound like he had a
clothespeg on his nose!), then wouldn't THAT be rather dull and boring too?

I don't mind Smashing Pumpkins (I adore their song "An Ode To No One") but I
can see why Glenn, Grote, Dan Hearsch & Co. aren't too keen on old Billy's
voice - it grates on me also sometimes, much like some songs by the one and
only Alice in Chains....  {now Glenn & Daniel Garrett - smile!  :-) }

I also like Prong, and yet their vocalist can give me the gripes, too.  And
I love Violent Femmes, and yet I can see how the magical sound of Gordon
Gano could annoy some people.  AND I love Soundgarden (don't we all), AND
YET I can see how Chris Cornell's screeching could drive some people up the
wall..........

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it takes all kinds of singers
to give we humans enjoyment - what sounds shit-house to some people sounds
magnificent to others.  And if every singer sounded like Chris Cornell,
wouldn't we all begin to wonder what makes that sound so good with nothing
else to compare it with?

Just some food for thought - I'll run back to my hole now & continue
catching up on all this...............

Carolyn the Missed Feuder??
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore - SOUNDGARDEN
Our little group has always been & always will until the end  - NIRVANA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: He Who Walks Between <toybox@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: Faith No More and Mr. Bungle

On 23 Jan 1996 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:

> MT>> Why is it that singers voices are almost always better live?
> 
1.  If it is a big concert, or even one with a PA, usually, whatever the 
singer's voice is being projected through is probably far more suited to 
a singer's voice than any home stereo system.  
2.  You don't have it loud enough on at home or in your car.
3.  If the singer's voice is not ran through a PA or anything, then you 
still get to hear all the true color of the singer's voice before it is 
twisted by mastering processes into something more marketable. 
Well, there's my guesses.  -j


aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
*****************************************************************************
"I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
"Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement


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From: Sid Vicious <firebug@canuck.com>
Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995

> Did anyone notice that there is a 1996 Faith No More calendar in the market 
> including 11 photos related to Faith No More and a photo of Kim Thayil!!!!! 
Does he 
> look like Jim Martin or what???

Where did you see this?



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From: "Steven Russell Jr." <swr@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Foundation Forum '91 + SG comics

Hey list!

I'm searching through some old magazines when I came upon an A&M 
advertisement for Motorvision, SOD - Live at Budokan and "Foundations 
Forum '91: A weekend in hell".  It says a "fully rockin video document of 
all the madness of Foundations Forum '91.  Featuring live performances 
and insane interviews with bands who rock your world".  On the cover of 
the videotape it says Soundgarden...anyone, anyone....bueller?

Also, since nobody is a 'gamer'.  Does anyone remember seeing any 
Soundgarden comic books?  Any info would be appreciated.  I know there is 
a pearl jam/soundgarden comic book, but I dont know what's in it.

Reminder:  If you dont have 'net access (WWW) and you'd like a copy of 
the discographies (regular or bootleg).  I can email them to you...but beware 
they take up 90k of space. 


steve
- - swr@acsu.buffalo.edu
- - http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~swr
- - SG Web Alliance

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From: toybox <toybox@email.unc.edu>
Subject: Re: sorta related..

> On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, toybox wrote:
> 
> > Well, whomever that was that said to give them one good reason to 
> > like g'n'r, here's one:  On the Spaghetti Incident, they covered a 
> > sg song! (Big Dumb Sex).  So there is your reason.  -j
> > 
> Well, just 'cause they covered an SG song we don't all have like them.  
Uh huh!

> The cover in version is okay, but you have to remember what else they 
> have covered (Charles Manson songs for instance).  
Hey, Kim looks like Manson.  I think they are twin brothers or 
something...I'd rather be one of Kim's "children" though.  
> 
> Other bands have covered SG songs better include a local band where I am 
> from originally (Horsham in Sussex, Southern England) called Firestain 
> who really kick butt.
Yeah, but they haven't been exploited by the media and force fed to 
the general public yet, so i haven't heard them.   -j

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From: NFFW05D@prodigy.com (MISS DANI G WEGELIN)
Subject: lollapa.....winna!?!

i saw sonic youth at lollapalooza last summer and at kroq's almost 
acoustic x-mas this year, they friggin' rock.  


just had to get that in there...
- --dani


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From: Tonerkins@aol.com
Subject: Been there,done that, have it.

Hey Seth, yes,the pormo CD I have has a red cover with a ? on it. I will kept
my eyes peeled for any other interesting material.  I just found a good used
CD store that I have been checking out periodically.  Stay Warm and Dry!-T


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From: Carolyn <carolyn.hanel@mtg.for.csiro.au>
Subject: clowns

Nothingman:
TO>> I HATE clowns. 
TO>> They scare me. 

Chicka:  (sorry - He Who Walks Between) 
TO>Especially when they have bazookas, huh?  -j

Nothingman:
>Yeah, those are the worst.  ;)

Speaking of clowns with bazookas, where the hell IS ClownWithBazooka?
C'mon, Clown, are you in hiding these days?????

***************
CANCEL ALL THAT.  I've just read a later edition of the Somms digest, and I
see Clown is back, talking about mind-altering chemicals, no less......

Carolyn the Mysterious Fish
**************************************************************
If you ever need anything please don't hesitate to ask someone else
first...Nirvana
Heaven send hell away; no one sings like you anymore...Soundgarden
I will stand, arms outstretched, pretend I'm free to roam...Pearl Jam
Live fast, because if you don't take it, you'll never make it...Offspring
**************************************************************


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From: Carolyn <carolyn.hanel@mtg.for.csiro.au>
Subject: why do you like the music??

On 16 Jan 96 at 10:40, LaughingBoy wrote:
>      I was just mulling it over and realized that I would discontinue 
> listening to any band if I didn't think that they were morally 
> up to par.............In closing I would 
> just like to reiterate that if Chris Cornell were a stupid ass 
> womanizer I would no longer listen to Soundgardens music and if that 
> seems stupid thats up to you... 

No, LaughingBoy, that doesn't seem stupid.  In fact, I congratulate you on
your stand.  BUT I'm different from you.  I've said it before and I'll say
it again - I like music for the music.  For no other reason.  Not because I
like the band members, not because they have the same values and opinions as
me, not because they are into drugs/are not into drugs, not because they are
not sexist, racist.....whatever.  Down here in Australia we get very little
publicity about bands, which makes it easy for me to be totally unbiased
about the bands I choose to listen to.  I know nothing about the personal
lives of band members!  (I'd venture to say that just because there may be
more media coverage of bands in other countries doesn't mean that what is
reported about those bands is in fact correct....).

Limo Wreck wrote:
>When Pearl Jam first broke onto the scene, they were in all sense, an
>"alternative" band. In my opinion, they stayed alternative until the release of
>their second album..............
>With the release of "Vitalogy", everything continued to go downhill.......
>........left us real PJ fans with a sense of loss. Eddie couldn't handle
>screaming the lines of those harsh, fast songs anymore (and still can't).

Those of you who know me know I like Pearl Jam.  A lot.  And I'm very sorry
that I musn't be a "real PJ fan" because I WASN'T filled with a sense of
loss when Vs. was released!  I love it!  Go - Animal - Glorified G -
Rearview Mirror........good, rocking, energetic songs.  And then there was
Indifference.  Just as emotional as the fantastic songs on Ten.  Now, Limo
Wreck, if Soundgarden's next albums continue in a more and more different
vein are you, as a "real SG fan" going to be filled with a sense of loss?
Or will you, like me as a fan of Soundgarden (and Pearl Jam), actually
appreciate the new intensity and direction the album takes?  Hmmmmm.
Interesting.

Deb wrote:
>...............As for Eddie Vedder...I never did 
>care for him and his antics ever since Vs was being recorded really 
>turned me off.  I still like Jeff and Stone.  McCready even has my 
>respect now for getting his life in order and going public about it.  
>But EV can go jump off the nearest tall peak in the Cascades.  Things 
>aren't right in PJland, which I've been saying for years now.........

Deb, I'm not attacking you (or Limo Wreck) for your personal opinions here.
You can think what you like of Eddie Vedder, and of any band as a whole, for
that matter.  I don't mind!  :-)  But I want you to know that not everyone
out here thinks PJ sold out.  Shit, some songs on Vitalogy "speak out" to me
(e.g. Betterman, Tremor Christ, Immortality) just as much as their earlier
songs.  [Betterman was actually written before Vs. was even released, btw].
If a band such as Pearl Jam can continue to write lyrics that reach out to
people and give them something they can identify with, then in my opinion
they have definitely not "sold out" at all.

Now this is NOT meant to start the ball rolling on another PJ versus the
world argument..........PLEASE!  I'm merely giving you MY opinion.  I am NOT
saying they're the best band in the world, that they have no faults, that
(heaven forbid) they are a whole lot better than Soundgarden..............

Oh, and LaughingBoy - can you please enlighten me as to who said/wrote the
following that you included at the end of your note? (below).  I like it!!  :-)
> If something is in your soup eat it. If something is by your nose blow
>       on it! And if the world is your worst enemy laugh at it...

Bye, all........

Carolyn the Mirthful Flogger (laughing at my worst enemies)
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Heaven send hell away; no one sings like you anymore...Soundgarden
I will stand, arms outstretched, pretend I'm free to roam...Pearl Jam
So don't you lock up something that you wanted to see fly...Soundgarden
She lies and says that she loves him...Pearl Jam
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From: Marqie6590@aol.com
Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 23 Jan 1995

You mentioned a Faith No More 1996 calendar with a picture of Kim Thayil.
 Any ideas of where a person in Birmingham, Al can find such delight.  

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From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Re: temple of the dog boots

Phelipe wrote:
> hey, does anyone have any temple of the dog bootlegs?

	I once heard a PJ bootleg, I think it was called 5 Alive. In 
that disc, Eddie Vedder sort of sang a bit of hunger strike.
 
					URB@NO
 ______________________________________________________________
 |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia.   |
 |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]|
 |____________________________________________________________|
 |____________  Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________|
       	      \__________________________/

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From: davidanderson@wbc.edu
Subject:  


ya know I'm getting tired of all this soundgarden
crap, why dont you guys just give it a rest


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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: sorta related..

TO>Well, whomever that was that said to give them one good reason to 
TO>like g'n'r, here's one:  On the Spaghetti Incident, they covered a 
TO>sg song! (Big Dumb Sex).  So there is your reason.  -j

YES!!  I forgot about that one.  G'N'R's isn't as good, but it made me
go out and buy Loud Love so I could hear the original.  I meant to buy
it anyway, but that was an added bonus.  Also, Hair of the Dog and
Buick Makaine (?) kick ass too.  I like how they put Buick and Big Dumb
Sex together.  Wow, I have to listen to that now.
 
                                                                 
Nothingman
 
   -Now you're messin' with a son of a bitch!

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Grungies

BI>On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Jennifer C Graham wrote:

BI>> I saw the Ben Stiller Show about a week or two ago and they had a skit 
BI>> called "The Grungies".  It was so damn funny because Ben Stiller was 
BI>> supposed to look like Chris Cornell (and he did so I actually didn't 
BI>> change the channel).  One of the other guys looked like Kurt Cobain.  
BI>> They totally stereotyped the Seattle scene portrayed all of them to be 
BI>> grungie scumbags who suck playing music.  In the end of the skit they 
BI>> were actually signed to a record label.
BI>> 
BI>> It was so funny.  Did anyone else see it?
BI>> Jenn
BI>> 
BI>much as i ahve always hated ben stiller, his show from the early nineties 
BI>or whenever was really quite good. i thought that the grungies one was 
BI>one of his better skits. the only comedy show i liked better was kids in 
BI>the hall really. certainly wasn't the state

Sounds funny, but I missed it.  I did see something on Saturday Night
Live, though.  It was a band that played.  I thought it was just some
new band, until I noticed that the singer had 6 nipples and looked a
lot like Adam Sandler.  They were singing a song about a dog, and then
toward the end, a huge leg came down and Adam Sandler fucked it (like a
dog would do).  It was hilarious.  And the music wasn't half bad.  Adam
Sandler has a pretty good voice for that kind of music, but it was so
funny.  
 
                                                              
Nothingman
 
  -I'm livin' in the Temple of the Dog.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Back-masking follies

SM>>From: "Michael V. Ledesma" <mike@dostmis.gov.ph>
SM>>Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 22 Jan 1995
SM>>
SM>>BACKWARD MESSAGES on track 665 on the UltraMega?
SM>>Wow!  this back-masking thing is really sweeping everybody, even
SM>>here...

SM>"...santa is my king. santa is my king. hell. i love you santa baby. you
SM>got what i neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed."

SM>I know. This has been covered before.
SM>I'm bored.

If you rearrange the letters in Santa it spells Satan.
 
                                     Nothingman
 
  -Live backwards....evil, baby.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: (fwd) Re: reading boot.

MR>BT>hey nothingman, you stole my favorite phrase, so give it back before
MR>BT>you...well,... you know....share a cigarette with negativity and draw
MR>BT>flies and stuff...heh, heh...

MR>>Naw, it was mine first.  :)  Doesn't that song kick ass though?  People
MR>>on this list always talk about New Damage and Holy Water from
MR>>Badmotorfinger, but I think Drawing Flies is much better than both of
MR>>those.  It's short, but it rocks.
MR>    To add my two cents, I think the intro to that song turns people off. It
MR>    sound like the cd is skipping. Anyway I finally listened to it all the w
MR>    during finals week last semester. It's a great song.
MR>        Clown

Yeah, the intro sucks, but after you get past that, it's freakin'
awesome.  And that bass solo kicks ass too.  The intro to Rusty Cage
kinda sucks too.  But it's awesome on Motorvision.  Motorvision is the
shiznit.  Now I just need the Loud Love video (I can't remember what
it's called).
 
                                                                 
Nothingman

     -Leaning on the pedistal that holds my self denial.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Misconstrued Lyrics

MR>To whomever I've cured,
MR>    The lyric I messed up was on spoonman when he says "all my friends are
MR>    skeletons"  I always thought he said "all my friends are scared or dead"
MR>    and on beyond the wheel instead of "between your house and the home" I
MR>    heard "between your house and the holy" anyway thats my canadian .5 cent
MR>    for the day.
MR>        ClownWithBazooka

A friend of mine thought Holier Than Thou by Metallica was Poison
Arrow.  
And on Rusty Cage, I though he said, "You ironed me awake and hit me
with a hand of broken nails."  And then, "You tied my Lee and watched
my blood begin to boil."   And then later, a friend thought it said,
"You turned a phillips head inside my brain."  I though my friend said,
"You turned a phillips head and signed my brain."  I'm a putz...but so
is he.
 
                                                                  
Nothingman
 
  -"You are, Poison Arrow!"

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Faith No More and Mr. Bungle

TO>On 23 Jan 1996 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:

TO>> MT>> Why is it that singers voices are almost always better live?
TO>> 
TO>1.  If it is a big concert, or even one with a PA, usually, whatever the 
TO>singer's voice is being projected through is probably far more suited to 
TO>a singer's voice than any home stereo system.  

Yeah, but I've never seen Soundgarden live, only on Motorvision on my
TV with one little dinky speaker.  And on the CD+ on my computer with
two itty bitty stereo speakers.

TO>2.  You don't have it loud enough on at home or in your car.

Oh, I think I've heard it loud enough in a car.  A friend of mine had a
Chevette with 4 15" speakers in the back seat with a humongous amp with
it's own car battery to run it all.  Did I mention that he also had 6
6" speakers throughout the rest of the car?  I sat in it, he turned it
up, and my heart stopped.  Chris' voice still wasn't as good as it was
live.

TO>3.  If the singer's voice is not ran through a PA or anything, then you 
TO>still get to hear all the true color of the singer's voice before it is 
TO>twisted by mastering processes into something more marketable. 

That's probably it.  We'll accept this one.

                                               Nothingman

   -My stomach's burnin' alcohol, I musta burned a bottle full...

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: you're stuck with me again.......thoughts on singe

CA>BUT!!  I DO want to share my thoughts with you:  if every day consisted of
CA>blue sky and sunshine and there was never any wind or rain, and if every
CA>country had lush green pastures without any mountains, and if every garden
CA>contained only red flowers without any other colour, and if every person in
CA>the world had the same ideas and opinions...................then wouldn't
CA>that become rather dull and boring?

CA>And if every band had a "perfect" singer (who didn't sound like he had a
CA>clothespeg on his nose!), then wouldn't THAT be rather dull and boring too?

CA>I don't mind Smashing Pumpkins (I adore their song "An Ode To No One") but I
CA>can see why Glenn, Grote, Dan Hearsch & Co. aren't too keen on old Billy's
CA>voice - it grates on me also sometimes, much like some songs by the one and
CA>only Alice in Chains....  {now Glenn & Daniel Garrett - smile!  :-) }

CA>I also like Prong, and yet their vocalist can give me the gripes, too.  And
CA>I love Violent Femmes, and yet I can see how the magical sound of Gordon
CA>Gano could annoy some people.  AND I love Soundgarden (don't we all), AND
CA>YET I can see how Chris Cornell's screeching could drive some people up the
CA>wall..........

CA>I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it takes all kinds of singers
CA>to give we humans enjoyment - what sounds shit-house to some people sounds
CA>magnificent to others.  And if every singer sounded like Chris Cornell,
CA>wouldn't we all begin to wonder what makes that sound so good with nothing
CA>else to compare it with?

You are freakin' awesome.  I think you said it best.  You should write
a song about it.  It would be great.  I'll write the music for you, so
it wouldn't be TOO good for people.  ;)
  
                                       Nothingman and His Amazing Two
Chords
 
  -Color me once, color me twice, everything's gonna turn out right.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: HOW THIS LIST WORKS

SA>I am the only one who can fulfill your request. The other 370 people
SA>on the list cannot remove nor add you to the list, so filling their
SA>inboxes with your crap gets you nothing except 370 enemies.

And then there's Nothingman, who fills up their mailboxes with
unrelated crap   like this, so people send him hate mail and tell him
to stop.  Not really.  Thanks all you people who put up with my crap,
and thanks to all those people who don't, too.  :)
 
                                   Nothingman and His Lingering Line of
Crap 

   -And now someone's talkin' 'bout a third world war, 
                                      and the police said this is
normal control.

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Subject: Re: 
From: seth <saperl@MIT.EDU>


> ya know I'm getting tired of all this soundgarden
> crap, why dont you guys just give it a rest

Just so everyone knows, this fuckface sent me an unsubscribe request
before he sent the above crap. Flamethrowers on high, kids.

seth


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From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com
Subject:  

DA>ya know I'm getting tired of all this soundgarden
DA>crap, why dont you guys just give it a rest

um, yer an idiot..... This is, after all, the Sound-fucking-garden
mailing list... HELLO? What did you THINK you were subscribing to, the
fucking Home Shopping Network?

Yours truly,
Foreshocks



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From: SHAFT <pmozolak@ashland.edu>
Subject: disco volante

hey everyone in this dreary year of music, that is 1995
i have found A new dawn
Mr bungle disco volante
it is nothing like the first album
this album will breath new life into your soul

       :John Shaft:
  >private investigations<



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From: Javdoctor@aol.com
Subject: Soundgarden Book

Hey All

I just recently joined the mailing list, and don't know if this has been
raised before, but has anyone else read the recent book on SG - 'SOUNDGARDEN:
new metal crown' by Chris Nickson?  I thought it was a very interesting
history of the band, and the development of the Seattle 'thing' in general.
 The book gives some good insights into how each album developed and the
directions SG took.

Any thoughts?

Javdoctor

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From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" <billsbar@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Grungies

you can still see the ben stiller show(with janeane garofalo and that 
wuss boy from news radio on NBC) on comedy central. they actually had 
chris cornell on it i think, i know he occasionally had guest people like 
paul provenza and some of the local seattle type people on it. another 
great show that came out of seattle was called "almost live". that is 
where bill nye the science guy started out. some of the guys from a lot 
of the local bands and shit were on a skit that kept showing up called 
the lame list. it was pretty funny. look for it if ye may.



comedy central boy

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