From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 18 Jan 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:04:07 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 18 Jan 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: misheard lyrics Re: berryBomb Re: SG in Rolling Stone Sale/auction what did he say?!?!?! lyric thing =) Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 t-shirts Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply berryBomb and PJ Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply Re: t-shirts Get the shot gun Harry, she's not talkin Soundgarden!! **kenichewa** Re: t-shirts Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply lyrics Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply Searching.... Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply Re: **kenichewa** Re: Alex Lifeson digs SG Re: (PJ) berryBomb the "alternative" label sg posters and t-shirts Re: the "alternative" label Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply Re: (PJ) berryBomb Re: Alex Lifeson digs SG Re: berryBomb Soundgarden and it's influence on MY life. (Ahem) Re: Soundgarden and it's influence on MY life. (Ahem) unrelated. SG Boots? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: misheard lyrics I thought that was "You're in a locker room..." No???? Curt On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, He Who Walks Between wrote: > Here's my embarassing misheard lyric: > The first time i heard Smokestack Lightning, i thought it was : > "Smokestack lightning, shinin like a dog" > And a Nirvana one i still can't figure out is correct or not: > (From Verse Chorus Verse on the No Alternative album) > "You're in a laundry room" > Good thing nirvana is related, huh? -j > > aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist > aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! > ***************************************************************************** > "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden > "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement > > ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Re: berryBomb In a message dated 96-01-17 02:23:44 EST, WILL9396@VARNEY.IDBSU.EDU (LaughingBoy) writes: > I was just mulling it over and realized that I would discontinue >listening to any band if I didn't think that they were morally >up to par I agree in that a band can be so far idelogically from a person it can alienate them. You may enjoy the music but the lyrics make you cringe. Being a woman I have run across that with alot of bands. The cock rock attitude can be tough to take sometimes. With Soundgarden, I don't think they are overall sexist in their lyrics sometimes they say some off the wall things. (the Aol thing we have discussed already) but basically they have no " me caveman,you my woman, I'm gonna bang you!" type songs. OK, I know "Big dumb Sex" sort of fits in that category but I always felt it was intended to be a joke!!! When the rumor went around that The Offsprings line "Gotta keep'em seperated" was intended to be the races and they were seperatists. I listened to it a little differently. I don't know if that is the case or not. I truely don't believe musicians have to be role models. If Chris let's say is a "stupid ass womanizer" that is truely none of our business unless he tries to inflict those beliefs on us in a lyric. The only person he truely has to answer to for that is Ms Silver and somehow I get the feeling she isn't going to take that shit! ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic, a sonic trip) Subject: Re: SG in Rolling Stone Hey everyone, It's been awhile but I'm back. Does anyone remeber me? probably not :) Anyway notes of Interest picked up a Promo only Pic disc version of Louder then Love anyone have any info on this? it's got no cover etc...clear sleeve packaging :) it's a great pic of the band tho :) And about SG in Rolling Stone..could someone please type up some of the info re new song titles...as down here in Australia we are unlikely to get the American edition of rolling stone all that quickly...and the OZ edition may not have it in. But for the Australian fans...SG interview in Guitar World, about 3 pages long :) Jan edition with SP on the cover. Plus if you are in Brissy and want to hear a copy of Somms....the Red Hill cd rental place has a copy for rent, if you don't have it and want to hear it it's worth it :) Just glad I stumbled across my own copy :) Thats about it, Seeya Lee (for the person that asked) University of Queensland, Australia. _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it up and Play it loud!! Let the blood rush to your head!! I love you, I love you, I love you, What's your name? ------------------------------ From: ar303921@student.uq.edu.au (DEFsonic, a sonic trip) Subject: Sale/auction This may be of interest to a few of you collectors out there :) I have a collectables list with a few SG things in it. I'll post whats is avaliable and if you are interested, e-mail me and I will send you the relivant details. NOTE: I do not own this stuff, it's from a music store, just posting goods that many ppl with more money then I have might like. Soundgarden - Foreshocks (CD) 1994 US, A&M, Promo-only 12 trax compilation album in full jewel case with trak ranging all the way from 'Heretic' to trax from 'Superunknown'. Unique cover! MB-$25 Soundgarden - Loud Love/ Big Dumb Sex(Dub version)/ Get on the snake/ Fresh Deadly Roses (7") 1990 UK A&M, Limited edition EP, great pic cover with all the lyrics. MB-$8 Soundgarden - Rusty Cage(edit)/ (Lp Version)/ Touch Me/ Stray Cat Blues (CD5) 1992 Germany, Comes in a slimline case with great pic cover; green, red, silver disc design. Promo Only copy (comes with one page promo/bio sheet) MB- $12 Soundgarden - The day I tried to Live/ Like Suicide (Acoustic Version) (7") 1994 UK, Great looking pic disc. MB-$8 Soundgarden - Spoonman (edit 3:50)/ (LP Version) (CD5) 1994 US A&M, Beautiful promo-only cd single in silver and black digipak.Editted verison is ONLY avaliably on this promo! MB - $10 Soundgarden - Spoonman / Fresh Tendrils (7") 1994 UK A&M, Picture disc in printed PVC cover and sticker says April '94 UK tour dates. MB - $8 Soundgarden - "Superunknown Singles Box" - Black Hole Sun/ Beyond the Wheel (live)/ Fell on Black Days (Live)/ Birth Ritual (BOX) 1994 UK A&M, Sealed black textured box, with gold embossed lettering. Contains the Black Hole Sun (CD5) with the 4 trak listed. To quote the box-wrapper :'This box was specially designed to hold all of the Superunknown CD singles' Looks fantastic. Super ltd edtion. MB- $15 thats it....those are just quoted out of the collectables list. MB= Minimum Bid. If you would like to bid, just e-mail me and I will give you the address etc to get in contact with Phantom records to place your bid. You do not need to send me your bid or any other information. I will reply with everything you need. Note: I do not work for Phantom, just letting other SG fans add to their collections etc. And you better not out-bid me for some of the items :) seeya Lee _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ SONIC E-mail ar303921@student.uq.edu.au Turn it up and Play it loud!! Let the blood rush to your head!! I love you, I love you, I love you, What's your name? ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: what did he say?!?!?! most of these are courtesy of my roomate, who has a knack for misunderstanding lyrics... soundgarden: from room a 1000 yrs wide - "tomorrow big hat tomorrow..." prez's of the u.s.a.: from lump - "she's up, she's up, she's up, she's in my head..." nirvana: the repeated phrase at the end of smells like t.s. - "bloody nylons, bloody nylons..." etc. pearl jam: from daughter - "don't call meat otter..." - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: "920460- JUSTINE J. EVANS" Subject: lyric thing Someone asked about misinterpreted lyrics and the wierdest one I ver found was in Nirvana's Spank-Thru [for those who don't know the song: it goes ...And the flowers have gingevitis and the birds fly happily...] of course I heard: And the lower have finger fights, and and the mud flies happily okay, I thought it was more bizzarre than it really was. . . Starla ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: =) Hehe, forgot one.. This one is REAL embarrassing..... "sit on my new chaise" Like I know what the hell a chaise is.. I think it's some sort of chair... if not, it's just some made up nonsense word... God, this is embarrassing... In case you can't tell, that's from the part in Fell On Black Days where Chris is saying "I sure don't mind a change..." =) Foreshocks ------------------------------ From: "Andy Lenart" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 Hello, all. I'm a drummer for a cover band in Milwaukee, and I was wondering if any of you SG fans/drummers know what kind of equipment Matt Cameron uses like cymbals, base set, pedals, heads, etc. I've always idolized Matt and his unique style of playing. He plays a bigger part in the band than most people give him credit for. - -Just curious ===> Lenart <=== ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: t-shirts I got this really weird SG shirt for christmas, and it made me wonder how many shirts they have out there. I have the one I got for christmas, which i gues you could call the tropical shirt, since it has the superunknown thing on the back, and "Soundgarden" on the front, all filled in with toucans and pineapples and shit. I also have the glow in the dark one from the superunknown tour, and i found a kickstand shirt that is kind of army green with a tricycle missing a wheel one the front, and the wheel on the back next to "come stand me up..." what other shirts has everyone seen. what are the rally cool ones to look for? I got the urge to ride your trike ------------------------------ From: davidanderson@wbc.edu Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply Is anybody, like myself, getting tired of soundgardens repetitive music and lack of creativity????? ------------------------------ From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" Subject: berryBomb and PJ I have to agree that when PJ first broke, they were alternative. That's also about the time that I got out of my rut and discovered alternative music too. (This after years of being a YES-only person, and even then it was only the post-84 or new YES) Not long after I made my discovery tho, it seemed that I was hearing alot more of what I had to term alternative on the radio, any radio. That's when I began to philosophize about the whole scene. If I'm hearing it on my usual radio station, is it still alternative? What IS alternative? And at that time I was also looking critically at my "normal", until then anyway, choice of so called progressive music. It was to me no longer progressive. The very word indicates music that is on the cutting edge, trying new things, etc. Progressive bands haven't done that in years, not even YES with my guitar god Trevor Rabin. I know it's in him, but they weren't doing it. Alternative on the other hand was trying new things, but suddenly the listening public was being more exposed to it, which to me would seem to make it more mainstream. Now I think we've reached a stage where mainstream is what would have been called alternative just a few years ago. I do think we have PJ to thank for that, also Nirvana. It at least got Spoonman and a few other Sg songs some airtime around here! Back to the subject of PJ, a band I have a number of gripes about anyway. Good ol' Eddie Vedder is suddenly calling the shots in the band, esp. w/ the firing of Dave Abbruzesse, which to me was totally uncalled for. I also trace this all back to Vs days. That's when things started to go sour in the band. PJ is a band in trouble. What happened? Did they get too popular too fast? Yes, could well be. I also hypothesize that good ol' EV cannot stand the public spotlight on him. He's a bit unbalanced as it is, and I say that b/c everyone harkens back to his awful childhood. A cop-out in my books, ya know, like GET OVER IT! When I first found PJ they had a fire and an energuy that I hadn't seen in a band in a long time. They lost that spark by the end of the Ten tour. PJ is burnt out, and they won't admit it. The best thing they could do is take some time off, not record at all and then see if they still want to go on. The media ban of theirs is so bogus, b/c of the cover stories I mentioned in an earlier post. If it suits, they'll do it. Hypocracy all over the place! I don't like EV and never did, and in my mind he's part of what ruined PJ. I, for one, miss the good old days of the first tour, Lolla and all that, when PJ and Sg used to hang around and chum around. I never did care for McCready's playing, Stone did improve but I don't think he's using it. Is it a lack of musicianship...or is it that they are burned out? You decide! The Jack Daniels bit...well, now, you see EV looking and acting drunk on stage, yet later they'll claim he wasn't, it was just an act...well, I'm sick of his acts! :( I also agree--doing large stadium shows IS NOT alternative. It's money grubbing! If PJ was so serious about keeping ticket costs low, they'd take a cut in what they get from it, right?? That whole last tour really put a block of ice on my enthusiasm for the band. I was in Seattle when they were cancelling and regrouping and then saying they might do some shows, they won't do any shows, etc, etc, ad nauseum. Know what? People in Seattle don't like PJ. They're not real keen on Curtis Management either...but with me, that's a whole new topic so don't get me started. OK, end of lecture for today, lest you mistake me for Nothingman! All comments welcome! later...deb /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mercyhurst Preparatory School Keeping you connected in 1995! /\/\/\/\/\(C)1995TMK/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 davidanderson@wbc.edu wrote: > Is anybody, like myself, getting tired of > soundgardens repetitive music and lack of > creativity????? ___________________________________________________________- HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH jennifer __________________________________________________________> > ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: t-shirts On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > I got this really weird SG shirt for christmas, and it made me wonder how > many shirts they have out there. I have the one I got for christmas, > which i gues you could call the tropical shirt, since it has the > superunknown thing on the back, and "Soundgarden" on the front, all > filled in with toucans and pineapples and shit. I also have the glow in > the dark one from the superunknown tour, and i found a kickstand shirt > that is kind of army green with a tricycle missing a wheel one the front, > and the wheel on the back next to "come stand me up..." > > what other shirts has everyone seen. what are the rally cool ones to look > for? ________________________________________________________________________ My favorite one I got a few years ago. Its black and it has a small kind of negative-image picture of soundgarden on the front in white and it says badmotofinger under it. On the back it says "the wreck is going down..." The only other ones I have are the kickstand and the badmotorfinger wheel thingee but I don't really ever wear them. jennifer ------------------------------ Subject: Get the shot gun Harry, she's not talkin Soundgarden!! From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Okay, this is not SG related - tough cookies.... But if you are a blues lover and enjoy listening to good straight on guitar playing - take your hip self down to the local record shop and get: "Blue Day for the Blues" - Rory Gallagher... You who know me from the early days of this list, know I'm a very big fan of Gallagher. Rory was a rare white bluesman who could blow away most of the guitar players of today. He never compromised his music for frame, he was never recognized for his talent, and this CD is not one of those money grubbing pieces of junk that is put out after the death of the musician. Both the music and the liner notes tells the story of Rory and his music. Gallagher gave us 20 some years of damn fine blues mixed with rock n' roll. I have all his work and it saddens me to know there will be no more. The Village Idiot Jamie ------------------------------ From: SHAFT Subject: **kenichewa** I have a question is the cd+ really cool or is it a profit sceme? let me know cause i want to get it but im unsure. ps did you know that jar of flies had the same CD+ format in a limited release form... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>light a roman candle and hold it in your hand<<< :John Shaft: >private investigations< ------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: t-shirts God forgive me the coolest SG shirt I own was purchased at...none other than... Paramount's Kings Island. That's right, you read correctly. Its black and white and has the band just standing there. the sleeves and collar have a black ring on them. I just couldn't help myself. Curt On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > I got this really weird SG shirt for christmas, and it made me wonder how > many shirts they have out there. I have the one I got for christmas, > which i gues you could call the tropical shirt, since it has the > superunknown thing on the back, and "Soundgarden" on the front, all > filled in with toucans and pineapples and shit. I also have the glow in > the dark one from the superunknown tour, and i found a kickstand shirt > that is kind of army green with a tricycle missing a wheel one the front, > and the wheel on the back next to "come stand me up..." > > what other shirts has everyone seen. what are the rally cool ones to look > for? > > > I got the urge to ride your trike > ------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply Set flamethrowers to hi and let 'er rip. Why are you on this list if you're so tired of their music? Curt On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 davidanderson@wbc.edu wrote: > Is anybody, like myself, getting tired of > soundgardens repetitive music and lack of > creativity????? > > ------------------------------ From: "920460- JUSTINE J. EVANS" Subject: lyrics 4 the misunderstood lyric thing, the Laundry room got me 2 I thought 4 like 2 years that it was "He really loves you. . .etc. . ." Also, [ this is very embarassing] I must warn you that Superunknown was the album that took me the longest time to buy so I went for a long time relying only on the radio to provide me with Black Hole Sun and Spoonman for like forever. . . and I thought BHS was Black 'Ole Sun. . . and yes, I feel acceptable stupid[as usual] In Rocket by SP, I thought that it was "I shall be brave. . . " as the last, core line when it's really "I shall be free. . ." kay, bye Starla ------------------------------ From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply On 17 Jan 96 at 9:39, davidanderson@wbc.edu wrote: > Is anybody, like myself, getting tired of > soundgardens repetitive music and lack of > creativity????? > No. Care to explain what the problem is? Maybe some peole don't like it that they've found a formula of sorts that sells some albums, and it's about time! /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mercyhurst Preparatory School Keeping you connected in 1995! /\/\/\/\/\(C)1995TMK/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ From: JUNKGUNF@aol.com Subject: Searching.... Hey I'm looking for the following: 10/24/89 Full on Kevin's Mom (also called, Ugly Flowers) 00/00/92 Harder Faster 00/00/92 Mind Riot 00/00/92 Live in the USA 03/19/92 Big Dumb Sex (full show) 00/00/92 Real Wild Children 00/00/92 Face Pollution 0?/??/94 Violently Happy If you have a copy of any of those. Please get a hold of me and we can work out a dub trade. If you have a copy and dont want to trade dubs...could you at least look at what I have written down in the bootleg discography and see if my information is correct? Thanks a ton, Steve ------------------------------ From: ward brandon t Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply I hope that whoever wrote this ws only kidding. If not, some serious psychological help is in order. David, you are actually kind of funny. Superunkown was, to date, the most eclectic collection of SG music on an album. What other albums are as diverse as SU? I mean SU runs the gamut from My Wave to Head Down, Like Suicide to Kickstand, etc., etc. I think that the last album was the most creative I have seen them in quite some time, although not necessarily their best stuff. --- On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 davidanderson@wbc.edu wrote: > Is anybody, like myself, getting tired of > soundgardens repetitive music and lack of > creativity????? > > ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply Has anybody heard of the school he purports to be from? I just fingered it and got a 'host unknown' message. I think some asshole is trying to stir up controversy. He says he's from WBC.EDU, and I suppose he also plays in Pearl Jam... >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 davidanderson@wbc.edu wrote: > Is anybody, like myself, getting tired of > soundgardens repetitive music and lack of > creativity????? > > ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: **kenichewa** The CD+ is worth every penny and a few more. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, SHAFT wrote: > I have a question is the cd+ really cool or is it a profit sceme? > let me know cause i want to get it but im unsure. > ps did you know that jar of flies had the same CD+ format in a limited > release form... > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>light a roman candle and hold it in your hand<<< > > :John Shaft: > >private investigations< > > ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: Alex Lifeson digs SG I think it's a pretty well-known fact that Soundgarden are also huge fans of Rush. At least Kim Thayil for sure, but I think the rest of the band too. An interview with Kim a long time ago, he said roughly "We used to sit around with our friends and do sit-around-with-your-friends things and listen to Rush". I believe or believed he was referring to getting wasted. The interviewer knew what he was getting at, and said "...and Party" And Thayil agreed. Point is, he likes Rush. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Tue, 16 Jan 1996 buddha@dmv.com wrote: > I was on AOL last night for Rockline. Alex Lifeson(guitarist for > RUSH(my alltime favorite band(SG is #2))) was asked who he is listening to > thes days and his response was, " I realy like Soundgarden alot! I also am > listening to AIC,(someone else) and NIN" > It made me proud to know one of my musical Idols really like another > one of my musical Idols. > Any other RUSH fans?(we won't disscus Rush, I promise) > Later > Buddha > > ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: (PJ) berryBomb Can someone please tell me what Alternative music is? Alternative to what?? Does ANYBODY on the list know that Soundgarden took part in an album that protested the label "alternative". No honest hard-working band wants to be labeled alternative. I repeat "HONEST, HARD-WORKING". Of course every band who has no hope in hell of ever making a career out of being a musician wants to be labeled 'alternative' because the media has the public believing this category of music exists, and that it is popular. So all the mindless people go out with the idea that they will be cool and hip if they listen to this 'alternative' music and buy 'it'. Anyway, the liner notes read: This is not an alternative rock collection. "Alternative" rock does not exist. It is a myth on par with Elvis sightings, Quality airline food and Stress-free relationships. No, what you are listening to is simply twenty-one songs... Remember, this is a message from the very bands you are labeling 'alternative'. I think the point is that ANYBODY can listen to ANY music, and that you don't have to be part of any group or have to dress a certain way to listen to them. Either you like it or you don't. Anybody? >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Limo Wreck wrote: > When Pearl Jam first broke onto the scene, they were in all sense, an > "alternative" band. In my opinion, they stayed alternative until the release of > their second album, whatever you want to call it. Eddie's voice went through a > dramatic change due to his frequency of visiting Mr. Jack Daniel's. The guitar > playing wasn't up to "Ten" standards and they had just gotten rid of their > first drummer, the best one to this date. The big hit single "daughter" was > drowning in mediocrity and everyone and their grandmother knew the damn song. > With the release of "Vitalogy", everything continued to go downhill, granted > that McCready didn't play much on it. The album was full of instant pop song > hits, and left us real PJ fans with a sense of loss. Eddie couldn't handle > screaming the lines of those harsh, fast songs anymore (and still can't). > > And if alternative is still what it meant back in 1991, PJ is not alternative. > doing large stadium shows is not alternative. Backing out of shows because of a > lack of security is not alternative (actually, those are the best shows!!). > > > -- > > Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck or unGod > j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu > http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html > > "I hate what I have become to escape what I hated being" > > "And the world spreads its legs for another fuckin' star! > cause I am the all-American AntiChrist" > -Marilyn Manson > ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: the "alternative" label it has come to pass that people are rebelling against the "alternative" namesake. FIRST- htis label was desginated by the media as a way to desribe music, whatever it is at the time, that is not in the mainstream of radio, or billboard music. bands like Otis, Grither, Paw, Hater, Prick. Even though we do not see ourselves as listening to alternative music (because that is in our mainstream of what we listen to), we use that term to describe what type of muscic we listen to when people ask. That is all it is..... - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck or unGod j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "I hate what I have become to escape what I hated being" "And the world spreads its legs for another fuckin' star! cause I am the all-American AntiChrist" -Marilyn Manson ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: sg posters and t-shirts Hello. there is this great new cd store near me which also sells many cool posters and such. they have only one soundgarden poster and no sg shirts however. i would very much be interested in aquiring soundgarden tshirts and posters so i was wondering if anyone here could send me some info along those lines. thanks. vince at utdallas ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: the "alternative" label Sure, man, but why are you using the name then? Why are you buying into it? It describes nothing. The bands YOU like do not want to be labeled alternative, so why are you labeling them that way? It just makes me laugh when people talk about 'alternative' this and 'alternative' that like it is some kind of special quality. "They were more alternative then..." or "that is not an alternative thing to do". Alternatively, we could alternate and call this the alternative mailing list, or is that too alternative? Anyway, I'm not jumping on anyone in particular, I'm just saying SG took part in this anti-alternative-labelling thing, so it seems kind of silly to use the term on the list. I guess I thought most of us were enlightened. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Limo Wreck wrote: > it has come to pass that people are rebelling against the "alternative" > namesake. FIRST- htis label was desginated by the media as a way to desribe > music, whatever it is at the time, that is not in the mainstream of radio, or > billboard music. bands like Otis, Grither, Paw, Hater, Prick. Even though we do > not see ourselves as listening to alternative music (because that is in our > mainstream of what we listen to), we use that term to describe what type of > muscic we listen to when people ask. That is all it is..... > > -- > > Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck or unGod > j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu > http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html > > "I hate what I have become to escape what I hated being" > > "And the world spreads its legs for another fuckin' star! > cause I am the all-American AntiChrist" > -Marilyn Manson > ------------------------------ From: toybox Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 -Reply On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 davidanderson@wbc.edu wrote: > Is anybody, like myself, getting tired of > soundgardens repetitive music and lack of > creativity????? > Um, what exactly are you talking about? They create something new every b-side. ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: (PJ) berryBomb On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Geoff Kleemola wrote: > Remember, this is a message from the very bands you are labeling > 'alternative'. I think the point is that ANYBODY can listen to ANY > music, and that you don't have to be part of any group or have to dress a > certain way to listen to them. Either you like it or you don't. Anybody? Yeah, but there is music now that years ago would have been laughed at or something else terrible would happen to it. Today, that music can be found on "alternative" radio stations. ok, you don't like the label? Call it modern rock then. Is that better? Modern rock is defined (by me) as rock that is different that mainstream pop and roots rock and usually metal. Country fits into the roots rock cartegory. so does Hootie. any questions? You have all been very good today class, don't forget to do your homework. (I'm joking, i hope you know) -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: "Harold V. Ghent" <100776.3641@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Alex Lifeson digs SG I've always been around RUSH when I was growing up, and they've been my favourite group at the time, but now that I'm heavily into Soundgarden I don't hear much of them. I'm still glad that both co-relate in some fans' minds. The're both fantastic bands! - -Hal Ghent 100776.3641@compuserve.com ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Re: berryBomb Hmmm. It doesn't really bother me if some musician may be a jerk in real life. If the music is good, listen to it, i say. But i can see how you could think that. Good point. Gregg _______________________________________________________________________ | | | "My stomach's swimmin in alcohol, I must've burned a bottle full. | | You ain't got a chance in hell tonight!" Kyle Petty, Son of Richard | | Soundgarden | |_____ melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net_______________________________________| ------------------------------ From: Cornell Subject: Soundgarden and it's influence on MY life. (Ahem) Okay first of all--does anyone know where i can get the SG album with their cover of "Come Together" on it? My brother has heard it on 104.3 (We live in NJ) a couple times and told that it is pretty good. I'm also interested in getting songs not found on the albums or Screaming Life or Fopp, but "Come Together" has been nagging at me for a year and a half now. Whoever wrote about how good Matt Cameron is--No Sh*t, man. You should see me whiling away the hours playing the same track over and over, trying to play it. Then you should see me at my set going nuts cause i can't do it. ARGGH. Am i the only drummer that worries himself about his fills being too reptitive? My drumming is the only thing that i'm really anal about, in terms of getting it right. When i heard the new album was coming this summer, my reaction was: F*CK YEAHH!!!! Also, i'm in the middle of compiling a tape of tracks not readily found...so far i have: LIVE TRACKS: Blind Dogs Kyle Petty Son of Richard No Attention Fell on Black Days (demo) My Wave Non-Album TRACKS: Birth Ritual (demo), Into the Void, Girl U Want, Stray CAt Blues, She's A politician, Seasons, Fell on Black Days (video Version), She like Surprises, Like suicide (acoustic) Oh yeah, one more live track: Slaves & Bulldozers Umm...I'm probably gonna get more stuff off of imports, but if anyone has stuff from the Sub-Pop days, i'm interested in tapes of 'em. Laters all Gregg _______________________________________________________________________ | | | "My stomach's swimmin in alcohol, I must've burned a bottle full. | | You ain't got a chance in hell tonight!" Kyle Petty, Son of Richard | | Soundgarden | |_____ melusk2@crow.cybercomm.net_______________________________________| ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden and it's influence on MY life. (Ahem) From: Jamesetta Simpson >Okay first of all--does anyone know where i can get the SG album with >their cover of "Come Together" on it? My brother has heard it on 104.3 >(We live in NJ) a couple times and told that it is pretty good. I'm >also interested in getting songs not found on the albums or Screaming >Life or Fopp, but "Come Together" has been nagging at me for a year and a >half now. >Gregg Full On Kevin's Mom - Made in Germany - contains 1. Ugly Truth 2. Get on the Snake 3. Mood for Trouble 4. Flower 5. Beyond the Wheel 6. Gun 7. I Awake 8. Big Dumb Sex 9. Full on Kevin's Mom 10. Come together 11. Beyond the Wheel/Hands all Over 12. American Woman 13. Earache My Eye The Village Idiot Jamie ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: unrelated. Ok, this isn't related to soundgarden, but i have a question for you rush fans. Have you ever heard of a band called Europe and what do you think of them? I think they sound like what i have heard (very little) from Rush. Except the talents don't match. Oh well. sorry about the lack of sg content. Unless someone knows where i can find boots that don't cost 30 bucks. -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: SG Boots? What's your favorite SG bootleg? The only one I've heard is "Crown of Thorns." I want to buy another one. Any recommendations and locations? BDM "But in your heart I'd freeze." --C. Cornell ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 12] ***************************************