From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 07:04:09 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 16 Jan 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 14 Jan 1995 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Saturday, 13 Jan 1995 Lollapalooza? Well, okay... Band Wars Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 14 Jan 1995 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 11 Jan 1995 Re: reHome Alive: a hundred miles of chickenwire... responses SP! And SG tabs. disheartening news hello all! to chris (not cornell) korn-ell maybe? j/k Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 15 Jan 1995 ------------------------------------------------------------ From: "920460- JUSTINE J. EVANS" Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 14 Jan 1995 HI okay I just had to tell everyone just who Jason Everman is. He was this minor freak who was recruited for Nirvana just before "Bleach" was recorded he paid the $606 that it cost and so in a kind of thanks, he was listed as Nirvana's drummer during "Bleach" athough he never actually played on it. He toured with them for about one season and then [quit/was gently but firmly asked to leave] because, as Kurt said "He banged too much and in all the wrong songs. It was screwing up the balance" [this was meant as a joke but I think it fit the bill nicely] anyway, I am firm believer in the power of Billy Corgan but only because I like the noise he makes[you know, he sings] I don't care about the personalities of the musicians that I like nearly as much as I need to like their music. I have never been "Cool" or "In" I simply like the music I like and defend to the death my right to like it. Whoever said Here is No Why was about Trent Reznor, I listened to it twice and thought 'my god, their right!!!' and then it hit me that my best friend had tried to tell me this for weeks. . . okay I'm done. Are Soundgarden ever going to come to Western Canada? Is this a possibility? Wow. bye, Starla. Temple of the Dog Unplugged? ten times heaven. . . wow ------------------------------ From: "920460- JUSTINE J. EVANS" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 15:59:30 PDT Someone said Shannon Hoon was weak. Oh my god. . . that man had the voice of an angel [I'm not dissing Chris' either] has anyone listened to Carseat? New Life? The Duke? or ANYTHING on their first album? they make music like it is something that they can really say something through. My friend was really good friends with Shannon and Glen [Graham] and she knew them for like 10 years. To have actually talked to SH you get this kind of energy that can either be close to heaven or lower than I knew was possible. I must admit, they are rather odd and do not fit the bill of most bands, I don't really even consider them punk but they make beautiful music and when Shannon Hoon died, my friend went to see his family and when she saw his baby, she cried. Maybe he wasn't what people expected from a punk rocker but he WAS an amazing person and certanly NOT weak. Like anyone's going to believe me you had to know him and see him make his music in person. Starla ------------------------------ From: Primusuxs@aol.com Subject: Lollapalooza? Well, okay... Just a comment. Someone said that they heard that Soundgarden may be playing at Lollapalooza, again, this year?! Personally I'd rather see them at one of their own shows where they weren't limited to a 50 minute set like they were in '92, especially if they're promoting a new album. Don't get me wrong, I loved the set they did back then but it was too damn short and I didn't get a chance to see them last year so I'm ready for a "whole" show, not just a short set. I'll take whatever I can get though. By the way, why do I (we?) keep getting these unsubscribe requests from people? Is this typical? Forgive me, I'm still new to this list. Also, are there only twenty or so people on it? That's about the number of people I see posting anything. ------------------------------ From: Jammie Subject: Band Wars ok, what's going on here?? this list is great and all, but why is everyone having wars about how all these band suck??? there was pearl jam, and now smashing pumpkins...give it up ppl!! it's all opinion, and thanks for sharing it, but no need to put others down or just rant on about it! i personally love pearl jam and soundgarden, but that's opinion! i'm not gunna start badmouthing billy corgan cause i don't know the guy!!! well, those were my 2 cents, cya! jammie@Gramercy.ios.com ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Sunday, 14 Jan 1995 On Mon, 15 Jan 1996, 920460- JUSTINE J. EVANS wrote: > HI okay I just had to tell everyone just who Jason Everman is. He was > this minor freak who was recruited for Nirvana just before "Bleach" > was recorded he paid the $606 that it cost and so in a kind of > thanks, he was listed as Nirvana's drummer during "Bleach" athough he > never actually played on it. Well unfortunately i don't have bleach yet. But he was listed as a drummer? If this is so, our boy has a little diversity of his own.... (i said diversity, not talent). > the bill nicely] anyway, I am firm believer in the power of Billy > Corgan but only because I like the noise he makes[you know, he sings] I like that a lot myself. And his lyric writing is pretty good, imho. And so is his music writing. he does so much... > I don't care about the personalities of the musicians that I like > nearly as much as I need to like their music. I have never been > "Cool" or "In" I simply like the music I like and defend to the death > my right to like it. Well, that's Cool in my eyes.... Whoever said Here is No Why was about Trent > Reznor, I listened to it twice and thought 'my god, their right!!!' Well, at least i'm right about something. I tried to post that point to alt.music.smash-pumpkins, but my machine won't let me for some strange reason. > and then it hit me that my best friend had tried to tell me this for > weeks. . . okay I'm done. Are Soundgarden ever going to come to > Western Canada? Is this a possibility? Are soundgarden ever gonna come to Chapel Hill??????????????? Come on, they can play in Keenan Stadium, which holds more people than our nice dean e. smith center (where rem played). > Temple of the Dog Unplugged? ten times heaven. . . wow I've gotta agree, this would definitely be a good thing. And on a totally unrelated note, the indy boy inside of me hates the overplay of bullet with butterfly wings, but my mind tells me that i would rather have the masses contemplating the oh-so-true lines such as "the world is a vampire" and "despite all my rage i am still just a rat in a cage" than lines such as "(insert any Hootie lyric here.) Thank you for your time. -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: teeger@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU (Krissy) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 11 Jan 1995 >JV>If you want to hear a singer who is superior to all others, why don't you >JV>listen to Mike Patton of Faith No More and Mr. Bungle. His talent is >JV>unmatched. Soundgarden is one of my favorites, but I am sorry to say that I >JV>don't believe that they are as good as Faith No More. Remember, that is jus >JV>my opinion. I'm sorry if you disagree. Bye. > I think FNM is one of the greatest bands around and i would think that most Soundgarden fans would agree, but I guess not. I can't say which band i like better because Soundgarden and FNM are both really good and really different from anything else out there. Oh well, I just wanted to tell you I love Faith No More! "Happy Birthday...fucker" Krissy ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: reHome Alive: On Thu, 11 Jan 1996, Glenn wrote: > > Kyle Petty Son of Richard? > that sucks i already have > that. what is > Soundgarden's problem, first > they put songs we already > have on the single > for > superunknown, now they > don't even release a NEW > song for the > compilation > The reason this sort of thing "sucks" for so many people on the list is because > they are rabid SG fans, and own everything ever released by them. :)> I heard > these same complaints about the CD+. > Well, folks... colour me lame, but I don't have access to singles. I don't have > the stuff from the CD+ (well, under normal circumstances, anyway...). The only > reason I have excellent songs like "Kyle Petty", "Like Suicide (acoustic)", > "Fluttergirl", and others is because of our dear Village Idiot, Jamie (the most > wonderful woman alive... :)>). > Guys... don't be so greedy, alright? It's disheartening. its got nothing to do with greed at all glenn. if soundgarden happen to be releasing a non-album track at any particular time, I bet most of us would say that we would want something new, and not something that has been previously released. surely you can understand that those of us who have already heard kyle petty would want to hear something more recent (more importantly, something we haven't heard). vice versa, I can understand that you would be happy with basically *anything* you haven't heard before. in any case, I thought someone said that it would be kristin, not kyle petty at all. was it a typo that started this thread? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: a hundred miles of chickenwire... On 10 Jan 1996 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > SA>5.SLAVES & BULLDOZERS (LIVE) > SA> Music: Shepherd, Cornell; Lyrics: Cornell > > Is this the same version that's on Badmotorfinger, or is it similar to > the on on Motorvision? Does it have Alive at the end? I love that. no way nothingman, this is a very different version of slaves and bulldozers to the one on motorvision (other than having the roughly the same music and lyrics, mind you). I love the somms version for the intro. you know the opening riff? imagine matt playing that on his drum kit. that says it all :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Subject: responses From: seth ok, here it is: this is a soundgarden mailing list, so let's try to keep the material at least _somewhat_ related to soundgarden, okay? i am aware (believe it or not) that there are other bands out there. i know that nirvana, faith no more, mr. bungle, smashing pumpkins, blind melon, and guns n' roses either did or do exist. i would even go so far as to say that some of these bands are excellent (my favorite album of all time is by one of these bands). i believe there are mailing lists or newsgroups for almost all of these bands (except perhaps mr. bungle) -- and there you will find many people who share your interests! here, however, (and this is a response to the person who asked if there were 20 people on this list) you get to discuss your opinions about SOUNDGARDEN with 356 people (yes, there were more than 460 before the holidays, but many have not resubscribed yet). i can understand that nirvana is related to soundgarden via jason everman. comprisons of the voices of chris cornell and other singers are more than welcome, but when we start arguing about whether or not smashing pumpkins suck, i think we've strayed a bit far from the point. i realize that we need something to talk about, since many of us 'old-timers' have been talking for many many months, and are out of new material. nobody wants to hear me say 'i added this, that, and the other thing to our web page' any more. hey you relative newcomers, speak up! let's hear what you have to say. when the new album comes out, i can imagine the traffic on the list is going to skyrocket, but until then, i'm sure we can come up with some good soundgarden-related discussion. for example, geoff suggested that someone try to put together a soundgarden screen saver. can anyone do this? i seem to remember the earlier versions of after dark actually coming with tools to make custom screen saver modules -- anyone know what i'm talking about? i suppose we could try to make an sg 'desktop package,' with a screen saver, wallpaper, sounds, etc. we have a start -- the windows wallpaper that i made (which doesn't look as good to me now, months and months after i made the files) is on our web page, and i'm going to turn the bmps into picts, so mac users can have them as well. the 'my wave' sound clip is excellent for assigning to windows functions, and i imagine it would be good on macs, too. well, i assured blind dog that i would try include something in this message other than administrative crap, but i'm afraid i haven't done a very good job. i might as well mention that unsubscribe requests are to be made to SAPERL@MIT.EDU, not to the list. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: "Kyle Petty, Son of Richard" Subject: SP! And SG tabs. - -----------------Not SG related...that's lower! Please read!!!--------------- I just wanted to give in a vote against SP. The new album sux. The good songs are like 2% of the whole fucking two albums! I Corgan were smart he would have just taken the good ones and made 1 album! The only ones I really like are Bodies and Bullet wBWings. - ----------------SG RELATED---SG RELATED---SG RELATED---SG RELATED---------- And again, I want to post again(you never know about newcomers) if anyone out there can help me with some idea on the Birth Ritual riffs! I got no fucking idea what the fuck they're playing! I know it is in Dropped "D"(or that's what I hear) The chords are so bizzare! If you help me you WILL be accredited in my Home-page of SG TABS. If you want a preview...well the whole 4 album TABS are gonna be there. I don't own any SupPop/Sreaming life so don't expect anything from there. I'm also gonna include some non-released tracks like Kyle Petty, my version(in normal tunning) of Seasons, Cold Bitch and maybe I'll throw in some Hater stuff as well(thanx to JSIMPSON). So if anyone can help me, please mail me directly because I'm only on the digest. Thanx for any help given!!! =-) C-Y'ALL! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kyle Petty, Son of Richard \|/ ______ \|/ "Malo si si, malo si no ~@- / oO \ -@~ ni preguntes..." /__( \____/ )__\ No me acuerdo ahora \___U__/ ------------------------------ Subject: disheartening news From: seth Nothing new, but from the HotWired archives: - ----- On the first Lollapalooza concert tour back in 1992, Eddie Vedder of Pearl Jam and Chris Cornell of Soundgarden challenged each other to a gentleman's duel: who could drink the most stomach bile. Not just anybody's bile, either, but sickening, green foamy beer bile pumped from the stomach and out through the nose of Matt the Tube, a member of the Jim Rose Circus Sideshow, also performing on the tour. The disgusting contest continued all summer long, until eventually Vedder won. - ----- seth ------------------------------ From: lovedog@txdirect.net (mauricio) Subject: hello all! i've been playing guitar for a couple of years now, and i'm just looking for someone who shares the same musical influences that i do. i know a couple of people who play music, but i just can't seem to find the right people to play with (maybe because i only know about three or four other people who play music). i used to be in a band called Tribal Sex, i'm sure no one has heard of us (because quite frankly, we sucked! but, we did have our moments) there were five of us in this little band of ours. well, anyway it didn't last. non of them liked the same type of music that i liked. and i kept my feelings to myself, all they ever wanted to play was 'originals'. and i didn't completely agree with that. i believe a band has to feed off of other (good) bands that already have great music (alice in chains, soundgarden, drown, prong, self, stp, etc....) and then when they can at least play a 'cover' tune well enough that someone else who listens can actually say, "you played that anthrax song pretty good" or what ever. ok, ok, ok. all i'm trying to say is........... I WANT SOMEONE TO PLAY WITH! i don't mean it in a perverted way (unless your a woman..... just kidding) i've been wanting to join a band that can play good music and still have a good time doing it. or even someone who can hold a note. well i just wanted to get that off my chest. mo ps. drummers are so fucking hard to find in this world of guitar players..... ------------------------------ From: lovedog@txdirect.net (mauricio) Subject: to chris (not cornell) korn-ell maybe? j/k >Am I the only drummer who idles Matt? He has the most outrageous beats that >I've ever heard. I wish I could just sit down for a couple hours and watch >him play. >Well I gotta go so, talk to you all later. > Chris (not >Cornell) > >------------------------------ > >End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 7] >************************************** > > actually no, you may be the only 'drummer', but not the only 'person'. i play guitar. but i enjoy playing the drums (whenever i have access to some) when i don't, i play 'air' drums with what ever i can get my hands on! i read an article where a musician said that you will never have a good grasp of the true meaning of melody, until you learn to play the piano. and in the same article he stated that you will never have a good sense of rhythm until you learn to play the drums. matt is one of the greats...... you should try listening to the tea party's jeff burrows (i believe), he does some very good work as well. i saw them live, here in san antonio, and they were unbelievable!!!! at the end of their set all three members of the band were playing purcussion instruments! it was beautiful!!!!!!!!!! a great band is one who can play great music, and at the same time put on a great show. for example drown, they are so energetic in concert! all of the band members were shouting the lyrics, it surprized me how great of a show they put on while on tour with prong (another great band that puts on a good show!) soundgarden has some of the best music around, but i only wish that they would move around more in concert: jumping, kicking, yelling, that kind of stuff. i have badmotorvision and they performed better in the video that when i saw them live....... (maybe it was because i was trying to pick up my bodyparts off the ground in the mosh pit most of the time! i don't know). mo ------------------------------ From: Jovica Popovic Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 15 Jan 1995 [thiniking to himself: Had to do it? Couldn't keep your mouth shut, and let it pass, eh? Typical...] Regarding The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 15 Jan 1995 -------------------------- > From: "Joseph A. Burnett" > Subject: HELLO AGAIN > > gee, it's been quite awhile, fellow somms persons-------i was recently > flipping through some old cds, and i came across the singles soundtrack > (probably everyone's first "alternative" album)-----i listened to "seasons" Hm... I'd have to say that my first truly 'alternative' album (meaning: something I didn't buy under influence of media and liked it) would be Freedom by Neil Young... And it was a revelation... > mind---chris' voice is so prominent in that acoustic ballad. does anyone > agree with me in saying where is some more mellowed out acoustic stuff by > soundgarden and/or chris? Well, I for one would certainly like to hear some more... > alive in the superunknown ( i was rather shitfaced at the time)....all i > remember is chris singing along to the guitar riff from footsteps (pearl > jam)....someone help me out on this one.........Big JOe I'd say you were treated to a Temple Of The Dog album listening... Yummy! ------------------------------ > From: vman@ctdnet.acns.nwu.edu (Vasant Ramamurthy) > Subject: Stop bashing SP > > Please stop the Smashing Pumpkins bashing here. Firstly, there are SG fans > like me who are also Pumpkin fans, and I don't subscribe to the SG list > because I want to hear people bash SP. Secondly, this is a Soundgarden Hear, hear... If you don't like it, fine. Leave it to people that do. > list, and that should be the foremost topic. > > Anyway, back to SG. Does anybody kinda see a similarity between this one > Silverchair song (I don't know the name) and Kyle Petty, Son of Richard? > The main chords kinda sound similar, also like 1970 by the Stooges. I just hope this won't start another 'song rip-off' spree... Gets kinda boring after a while... :-) ------------------------------ > From: JUNKGUNF@aol.com > Subject: Re: HELLO AGAIN > > sacrilege...but when I heard Mother Love Bone's _Apple_ and/or _Shine_ for > the first time in '89-'90 (I cant remember which one I heard first). I > thought Andy Wood sounded a lot like Axel and Steve Tyler. Well, if Andy lived I'm quite sure that they would be G'N'R instead of G'N'R. Or, more likely, second Queen. ------------------------------ > From: Michael Travers > Subject: Re: Faith No More and Mr. Bungle One screen of message, and then three screens of .sig file? Don't you think you're overdoing it in the 'unnecessary message decoration' department? ------------------------------ > From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) > Subject: overrated... > > oh, i was just touching the tip of the iceberg by mentioning smashing > pumpkins. jeezuz, 85% of the commercally successful musicians nowadays > are vastly overrated. (well actually, people with any semblance of Smashing Pumpkins (BC, in fact) are overrated? How come? You judge a musician solely on his technical abilities? Lemme guess, Yngvie Malmsteen is your ultimate musician? C'mon. Technical ability by no means equals artistic value. Billy Corgan's strenght isn't in his guitar slinging (and he lakcs nothing in that deparment, BTW), but in his songwriting and production capabilities, and I bet you can't deny that with a straight face. - --- jpop@fly.cc.fer.hr --- Sit back and watch my divine spark flash... -- jovica.popovic@fer.hr -- Disclaimer: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do - Jovica Popovic - it, can't prove anything! ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 2 Issue 10] ***************************************