From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 13 Dec 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 13 Dec 1995 02:08:31 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 13 Dec 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu **listadmin note: This is the last issue before I go on vacation! Messages that appear in the next couple of hours will be put in the Web archive. Wishing everyone a safe and happy holiday season... -seth Today's Topics: Re: on your breast I might lay my crowded head... some stuff Bye RE:THERAPY? Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... Re: temple of the dog Have a good break Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... some stuff Oh yeah, well... Deep Six Re: New thread!..please contribute Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... MELVINS!!!!! Your Christmas Present Melvins Re: temple of the dog Re: Deep Six and a goodbye from me/TOTD/SG live Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... Re: some stuff rant rant Re: some stuff The Ultimate Acoustic Set (fwd) Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... Melvins Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Andrea Subject: Re: on your breast I might lay my crowded head... I was almost sure that matt sings on one of the songs too. just like he did on that song off the 'killer tomatoes' soundtrack :) - ------------------------------------------------------------------ Matt didn't sing live with Hater when i saw them, although i heard he has at past shows. Only Ben was singing. They're now down to 4 members. andrea@kidstar.com ------------------------------ Subject: some stuff From: seth the new version of the unofficial soundgarden web page should be done and running by december 19. i urge all of you to check it out at that time -- and i hope you'll enjoy it. this mailing list will probably be moving to a listserv when i get back. this means that you will be able to subscribe and unsubscribe yourself, as well as choose your own format (individual messages, digest). the listserv will automatically compile the digest. the address (sadly) will not be somms@mit.edu. i will, however, still be the listadmin. somebody needs to keep you people in line. seth ------------------------------ From: Daniel Ladle Subject: Bye Dear all, Just writing to say :- Have a great christmas Love from Dan ------------------------------ From: lclark Subject: RE:THERAPY? Caroline said >Can you give me more info. on Therapy? Well first off Caroline Therapy? are British,as they come from Belfast.They released a few EP`s a few years ago which went largly unnoticed.But in 1993 they released an excellent albulm called "Troublegum" which was great and made everyone take notice of them,this included "trigger inside" and "die laughing".They are very popular in Britain and around Europe,and so I have heard also in South America! This year thay released their second albulm called "Internal Love" which also is great(the love sign on the albulm consits of 2 ?? with the first turned round the opposite way,and this funnily makes a love heart?).Presently they are on their world tour,at this moment I think trying to crack America. >Just to make you feel better-it`s sunny and warm in SUMMER!! down here in Australia. Well Caroline I live in Scotland,where it`s freezing(literly) up in these fair glens.I sit here typing with my gloves three jumpers and a kilt on,and my trusty bottle of Bells Scottish Whisky my only comfort.Well at least it will be a white christmas.(I expect alot of sympathy and sexual encouragements to warm me up!) Well i`m away for a jog up that mountain over there. - -Liam ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > I dunno...Chris was the original drummer in Soundgarden. Kim and Hiro > were the guitar players, and Chris was the drummer and singer. He > decided drumming was limiting his vocal ability, so they got Matt. > Chris has been playing drums since he was 15, although I'm sure he's > not as good as Matt. I also hear Matt's pretty good on guitar. After > all, he did write the music for Room a Thousand Years Wide, and that > riff just rocks. That would be cool to see Matt playing the guitar, > and Chris drumming...or maybe Kim... Yes!!!! That would rule! It would rule! (Chicka goes into Beavis like convulsions) It would rule!!! Ben picks up a guitar and starts playing Half. Since he sings on Half, Chris is free to playfully kick Matt off the drumset. Afterwards, Matt picks up a guitar as well. While all this is going on, Kim has already found a bass. And then they play. and as usual they ROCK! I would love it!!!!! And then they do a couple more songs in that line up! But then Chris has to come back because of course we can't miss his voice for too much of a concert. But maybe he could sing Exit Stonehenge from behind the drumset..... -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: temple of the dog On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Paul Sorrells wrote: > get off it. The long part in "Reach Down" is the shit. > I agree. It rocks! It rocks!! It rocks!!!! -j Ready to go home in anticipation of Beavis and Butthead.... aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: buddha@dmv.com Subject: Have a good break To all the students going home for thier Jesus Christmas Pose, have a good one. Happy new Year too! BUDDHA ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... S3>On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: S3>> S3>chris may have written the main riff for jcp, but I'm sure that he didn S3>> S3>figure out that wacky drum beat :) S3>> S3>> I dunno...Chris was the original drummer in Soundgarden. Kim and Hiro S3>> were the guitar players, and Chris was the drummer and singer. He S3> I think that when a singer writes a song, he or she generally S3>leaves it up to the drummer as to how the drums are going to be played. S3>and even though chris does have a history of playing drums (and I'd be S3>very interested in hearing just how good he is), he would in most cases S3>let matt make up his own mind on the percussion side of things. the same S3>would hold true for ben and his bass. I read that ben wrote the bass S3>line for fell on black days, but he doesn't get any credit for it on the S3>record (the way it should be). so considering that the whole band gets S3>credit for jcp, the drums were probably matt's domain. That's probably true. I'm sure with a band like Soundgarden, whoever has the idea for the song lets the rest personalize it on their own instrument. I know some bands write stuff and say, "This is how it's going to be played, so play it EXACTLY!" I think this is what makes Soundgarden (and some other bands) so great. They let the whole band get involved. Rarely do you see a whole song credited to s drummer, but Matt got plenty of credits on Superunknown. I'd like to hear Matt on guitar, as well as Chris on drums. I wonder if Kim plays anything else? I just thought of something. The Fell on Black Days demo was performed by Matt and Chris. The guitar sounds way low for a regular guitar. I know he could've tuned down, but I've tried this and it doesn't work too good that low. is Chris playing a bass? I don't think he is, but I can'tthink of anything else. Maybe I'm just hearing things. Anyone have tabs for this song? Nothingman -Walkin' the Devil's dog and carrying his groceries. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: some stuff SA>somebody needs to keep you people in line. And you think you can do it? Well, think again "Mr. I'm Making a Web Page And Know More About Computers Than You Ever Will And Besides I'm the Leader of A Bunch Of Soundgarden Dolts." :) Nothingman -YOU CAN'T KEEP ME HERE! But you can kick me out, so I'll stop. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Oh yeah, well... LC>Well Caroline I live in Scotland,where it`s freezing(literly) up in these fa LC>glens.I sit here typing with my gloves three jumpers and a kilt on,and my LC>trusty bottle of Bells Scottish Whisky my only comfort.Well at least it will LC>a white christmas.(I expect alot of sympathy and sexual encouragements to LC>warm me up!) Well, Liam, I live in Maryland, USA, and it's a toasty 10 degrees (F I don't know what it is in Celcius) below zero...60 below wind chill. The skiing's great. Nothingman -Shorts? Of course I'm wearing shorts. Why wouldn't I be? ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Deep Six TO>Well....It's an acquired taste. But then so is soundgarden for a few TO>people now isn't it? Well, it did take me a while to get used to Badmotorfinger. But I do love it to death. TO>Then buy Deep Six if you can find it. It's got 2 or 3 melvins songs on TO>it, 3 early recordings of soundgarden songs, 2 green river songs, a u-men TO>song (it's a pretty good song, maybe i should search for the U-men's TO>albums if they have any), 1 and a half Malfunkshun songs, and a couple TO>songs from some other band that i am embarassed not to remember the TO>name of. TO>This cd is not a soundgarden cd, but if you'd like to hear what TO>Seattle sounded like before all the hype, check this cd out. -j I've heard of this CD, and I've been looking for it. Unfortunately, the only time I've found it was when I was broke so I couldn't buy it. I was going to buy this for the early Soundgarden and Green River songs, and, like you said, to see what they sounded like before all the hype. And maybe find some new favorite bands. Nothingman -Fopp all night and the night before. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: New thread!..please contribute TO>> Well, I think that just about covers everything that Soundgarden has TO>> released. :) TO>No, that was my acoustic set list from a while back. I think i got 98 TO>songs on there. I still have it if you'd like me to forward it to you. -j I knew they had a lot of songs (unrealesed and all) but I was being sarcastic because that would be a long list to play in one show. Sure, email me a list of those songs, so I can drool over all the ones I don't have yet. Nothingman -Look at you, your mind's wanderin'... ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... TO>> I dunno...Chris was the original drummer in Soundgarden. Kim and Hiro TO>> were the guitar players, and Chris was the drummer and singer. He TO>> decided drumming was limiting his vocal ability, so they got Matt. TO>> Chris has been playing drums since he was 15, although I'm sure he's TO>> not as good as Matt. I also hear Matt's pretty good on guitar. After TO>> all, he did write the music for Room a Thousand Years Wide, and that TO>> riff just rocks. That would be cool to see Matt playing the guitar, TO>> and Chris drumming...or maybe Kim... TO>Yes!!!! That would rule! It would rule! (Chicka goes into Beavis like TO>convulsions) It would rule!!! Ben picks up a guitar and starts playing TO>Half. Since he sings on Half, Chris is free to playfully kick Matt off TO>the drumset. Afterwards, Matt picks up a guitar as well. While all this TO>is going on, Kim has already found a bass. And then they play. and as TO>usual they ROCK! I would love it!!!!! And then they do a couple more TO>songs in that line up! But then Chris has to come back because of course TO>we can't miss his voice for too much of a concert. But maybe he could TO>sing Exit Stonehenge from behind the drumset..... -j Naw, Kim could sing on Exit Stonehenge (because I think he does anyway). Or maybe they all could pick up guitars and jam on a kick ass guitar break, or maybe Chris and Matt could have a duet on drums, while Kim and Ben make various noises, or Kim could chug some beers while Ben does backflips and Matt does a baton twirl show with drumsticks. Then Chris can be free to jump up and down and scream at the top of his monstorous lungs and piss on the stage. Or they could just play and kick ass anyway. Nothingman -Got God's eyes in my headlights. ------------------------------ From: AFNJ84A@prodigy.com (MR CASEY C CAUGHRON) Subject: MELVINS!!!!! - -- [ From: Casey Caughron * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- Yes the Melvins are damn good. Very fat sound. Soundgarden and Nivana both owe credit to the Melvins. If you like music with a lot of vocals though, the Melvins are probably not for you. Melvins trivia: Dale Crover (drummer for the Melvins) played drums on three tracks on Nirvana's Bleach album. Curt Cobain appears on the Melvins "Hootch" album. Shirley Temple's daughter (Lorax) played bass for the Melvins. She is now in a band called Acid King. King Buzzo spit on me while singing at a show earlier this year. Recommended Melvins albums: (these are the most widely know and they are good) HOOTCH STONER WITCH GOON Hey!!!! this STEEL POLE BATH TUB album I am listening to is very good. ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: Your Christmas Present I, Mayor McCheese, would like to wish the mailing list Happy Holidays. Remember that McDonald's gift certificates make great gifts (yeah, right). Anyone dumb enough to try can print this letter, bring it to a McDonalds and get a free burger, courtesy of the Mayor McCheese (Due to availablity, while supplies last *). Have a good one, The Mayor Ps. If you do get a hamburger, let me know. I'm hungry. ============================================================================== *MAYOR McCHEESE* ============================================================================== *The views expressed by Mayor McCheese (copyright 1975, McDonald's Corporatation, New York, NY) are not neccessarily those of McDonald's, or any of it's affiliates. All complaints and legal action are to be filed with GRIMACE, FRYGUY, HAMBURGLER, AND ASSOCIATES at Happyland Island, Indonesia. ------------------------------ From: AFNJ84A@prodigy.com (MR CASEY C CAUGHRON) Subject: Melvins - -- [ From: Casey Caughron * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- OOPPS!! Did anyone catch my mistake in my Melvins message. The name of the album is Houdini. Not hootch. "Hooch" is the name of the first song on the album. GOON ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: temple of the dog On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > > ....I'll call you beautiful, if I call at all." one of my favorite lines! jennifer > > > ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: Deep Six > I've heard of this CD, and I've been looking for it. Unfortunately, > the only time I've found it was when I was broke so I couldn't buy it. > I was going to buy this for the early Soundgarden and Green River > songs, and, like you said, to see what they sounded like before all the > hype. And maybe find some new favorite bands. _____________________________________________________________________________ What does Green River sound like? I don't think I've heard it. I have heard gruntruck and I like them alot. Especially the singer, who is kind of cornell-ish. A friend of mine told me its because chris got alot of his singing style from this guy from gruntruck. I don't know if I'd go that far, but there are some similarities> jennifer _____________________________________________________________________________> > > Nothingman > > -Fopp all night and the night before. > ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: and a goodbye from me/TOTD/SG live Hi all. I've decided to speak up now (even though I have not much to say) because you'll not hear from me until the end of January. 1. TEMPLE OF THE DOG. I also think this is a great album. I bought the CD about 3 months ago, after having heard it discussed a few times on the list. I thought okay, if all these Soundgarden fans like it, I probably will too. I listened to it once on the day I got it, decided it was okay, but nothing to write home about, and so put it away for a while. I knew the background to it (i.e. written as a tribute to Andy Wood), but still thought it would be more "heavy". You know, for some reason I was expecting good strong thrashy Rusty Cage type stuff. So I then left it for a month or so. BUT after the Somms list again started discussions on TOTD, I decided to give it another go. Just two listens through it and I was hooked. Yes, it IS a remarkable piece of work. My favourite would have to be Hunger Strike - I agree with all the people who posted to the list yesterday who love this song for the great power and emotion of two fantastic singers, Chris & Eddie. I love it!! So to any of you who don't have this album, and wonder what all the fuss is about, I'll warn you - you might STILL wonder what all the fuss is about if you don't give it much of a go. But hang in there - all of a sudden it will reach out and grab you and you won't be able to let it go. I promise you!! 2. LIVE SET LIST FOR SOUNDGARDEN. There is no way I could pick a proper setlist - I'd want them to play nearly everything! This was discussed a couple of months ago, but I didn't pipe up that time. I'd be happy with whatever SG played (especially as I've never seen them live - when are they going to come to Australia again??), but if they actually played Rusty Cage, Drawing Flies, Spoonman, 4th of July, My Wave, Uncovered, Face Pollution, BHS, Big Dumb Sex, Hunted Down, Fopp, Tears to Forget and Gun........then I'd be one happy chick. [after saying I couldn't pick a proper setlist, I guess I just proved myself wrong. 13 songs for the 13th of December]. 3. HAPPY CHRISTMAS! To one and all - and I'll catch up with you next year (I'll be writing to some of you before Christmas yet; this is not my final goodbye). Carolyn the Musky Foul-player ************************************************************** If you ever need anything please don't hesitate to ask someone else first...Nirvana Heaven send hell away; no one sings like you anymore...Soundgarden I will stand, arms outstretched, pretend I'm free to roam...Pearl Jam Live fast, because if you don't take it, you'll never make it...Offspring ************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > S3>On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > > S3> I think that when a singer writes a song, he or she generally > S3>leaves it up to the drummer as to how the drums are going to be played. Unless you are Billy Corgan. > That's probably true. I'm sure with a band like Soundgarden, whoever > has the idea for the song lets the rest personalize it on their own > instrument. I know some bands write stuff and say, "This is how it's > going to be played, so play it EXACTLY!" Like Smashing Pumpkins. I don't mean to trash 'em. I like em. But Billy Corgan is a tyrant when it comes to them writing songs and recording. He even says so publically. He played most of the instruments on Siamese Dream. But he does a pretty damn good job. Every thing comes together emotionally...It's rare that a non TOTD band ever does that. > but Matt got plenty of credits on Superunknown. I'd like to hear Matt > on guitar, as well as Chris on drums. I wonder if Kim plays anything > else? Yeah, like a dulcimer or a tuba or a xenophone or something... > I just thought of something. The Fell on Black Days demo was performed > by Matt and Chris. The guitar sounds way low for a regular guitar. I > know he could've tuned down, but I've tried this and it doesn't work > too good that low. is Chris playing a bass? I don't think he is, but > I can'tthink of anything else. Well, Chris played bass on circle of power. But i have my own opinion as to what that is. I recently saw this band play and one guy was playing a guitar, but it was way to low to be in standard tuning. And it was lower that Dropped D. Me and my friends saw his effects pedals, and saw what he had. First of all a bass is one octave lower than the guitar. There is a guitar effect called a pitch shifter which will take the sound produced by the guitar up or down a certain number of steps. My friends and i saw that the guy was using this setting where the pitch was shifted to halfway between the octaves of bass and guitar. It was actually a pretty cool effect. Maybe I'm just hearing things. Anyone > have tabs for this song? Nope, but i'd love to see them to prove how wrong my theory is. -j "caught a bolt of lightning, cursed the day he let it go..." aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: mailman Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... I think I mentioned this before, but it's relevant, so I'll mention it again. When SG played here last summer, they played half, with no vocals. At then end during that cool drum thing, Chris joined Matt and they did an extended version of that cool drum thing. It was fantastic. Chris CAN play the drums. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: some stuff On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > SA>somebody needs to keep you people in line. > > And you think you can do it? Well, think again "Mr. I'm Making a Web > Page And Know More About Computers Than You Ever Will And Besides I'm > the Leader of A Bunch Of Soundgarden Dolts." :) If only MoonDruid was here.......... -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: rant Here are Clowns Rants and Questions, Why do people associate the whole temple of the dof project with Eddie Vedder "Eddie and Chris together was just Awesome" When like Chris wrote all the lyrics and all the Music except for 2 songs. Imho I think the album was made by chris's singing anyway. I don't like Mike McCreedy's style that much on guitar although his work on Mad Season was excellent. I like Stone's Rythm guitar playing though. But back to my rant do some of you guys play hunger strike on repeat? Eddie Vedder was a guest vocalist his contribution stop there. Forgive this rant but one of my housemates is a MTV POP 40 spawn that thinks that along the lines of Uhh... like pearl jam is more popular than soundgarden so like Eddie Was the biggest contributer. It's taken this kid a year to realize that Chris wrote most of the songs. Anyway is Avatar still on the list? Did you get your email handle from the song Ava Tar by eleven? Just Curious. Seasons Greetings, Clown ********************************************************************** If some woman came out of lake waving a scimitar at me and I ran round saying I was king, people would think I was crazy. -Monty Python ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: rant MR>Here are Clowns Rants and Questions, MR> Why do people associate the whole temple of the dof project with Eddie MR> Vedder "Eddie and Chris together was just Awesome" When like Chris wrote MR> all the lyrics and all the Music except for 2 songs. Imho I think the MR> album was made by chris's singing anyway. I don't like Mike McCreedy's MR> style that much on guitar although his work on Mad Season was excellent. MR> like Stone's Rythm guitar playing though. But back to my rant do some of MR> you guys play hunger strike on repeat? Eddie Vedder was a guest vocalist MR> his contribution stop there. Forgive this rant but one of my housemates MR> a MTV POP 40 spawn that thinks that along the lines of Uhh... like pearl MR> jam is more popular than soundgarden so like Eddie Was the biggest MR> contributer. It's taken this kid a year to realize that Chris wrote most MR> of the songs. Anyway is Avatar still on the list? Did you get your email MR> handle from the song Ava Tar by eleven? Just Curious. MR> Seasons Greetings, MR> Clown I've been trying to tell people around here that forever. But Chris and Eddie did do a good job together, singing on Hunger Strike. i knew eddie did nothing more, but I do like hjearing him and Chris singing together. They are the two best vocalists around. I didn't even know it was Eddie on Hunger Strike till a friend pointed out that he did (and he thought Chris wasn't singing at all...that i knew). It also credits Eddie to some vocals on Pushin'... and 4 Walled World (I think) but I can't find them. They sound so much alike. But Chris has a much better high range, and his low range rocks too. I didn't think Mike McCready did too bad of a job on Temple of the Dog. In fact, I really like some of his stuff on that album. But how can you not like anything on that album. It's a matter of what you like best (for me anyway). I'm just glad I'm not the only one fighting this battle with TOTD and Eddie doing squat. :) Chris should just take over PJ too. Then they'd be MUCH better. I think he'd have to take Matt and Kim too though. Three guitars...that would be the shiznit. Nothingman -I've gone hungry. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: some stuff TO>> SA>somebody needs to keep you people in line. TO>> TO>> And you think you can do it? Well, think again "Mr. I'm Making a Web TO>> Page And Know More About Computers Than You Ever Will And Besides I'm TO>> the Leader of A Bunch Of Soundgarden Dolts." :) TO>If only MoonDruid was here.......... -j I remember him from the first time I was here. Moon Druid, Moon Druid, where art thou Moon Druid? Maybe he went to the moon...or maybe he's busy mooning. Nothingman -And you stare at me in your Moon Druid pose. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: The Ultimate Acoustic Set (fwd) TO>91. Black (Just so Chris can show up that E. Vedder guy vocally) I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Soundgarden would do a better job with this already amazing song. Nothingman -I'll give that Eddie one thing...he sure can write a good song. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... TO>> TO>> S3> I think that when a singer writes a song, he or she generally TO>> S3>leaves it up to the drummer as to how the drums are going to be played. TO>Unless you are Billy Corgan. TO>> That's probably true. I'm sure with a band like Soundgarden, whoever TO>> has the idea for the song lets the rest personalize it on their own TO>> instrument. I know some bands write stuff and say, "This is how it's TO>> going to be played, so play it EXACTLY!" TO>Like Smashing Pumpkins. I don't mean to trash 'em. I like em. But TO>Billy Corgan is a tyrant when it comes to them writing songs and TO>recording. He even says so publically. He played most of the TO>instruments on Siamese Dream. But he does a pretty damn good job. Every TO>thing comes together emotionally...It's rare that a non TOTD band ever TO>does that. Yeah, I heard that too. He said it in Rolling Stone after Siamese Deam was released. TO>> but Matt got plenty of credits on Superunknown. I'd like to hear Matt TO>> on guitar, as well as Chris on drums. I wonder if Kim plays anything TO>> else? TO>Yeah, like a dulcimer or a tuba or a xenophone or something... Maybe a tuba, but not a dulcimer...maybe glockinspeil (I didn't spell that right, but who's going to complain?) TO>> I just thought of something. The Fell on Black Days demo was performed TO>> by Matt and Chris. The guitar sounds way low for a regular guitar. I TO>> know he could've tuned down, but I've tried this and it doesn't work TO>> too good that low. is Chris playing a bass? I don't think he is, but TO>> I can'tthink of anything else. TO>Well, Chris played bass on circle of power. But i have my own opinion as TO>to what that is. I recently saw this band play and one guy was playing a TO>guitar, but it was way to low to be in standard tuning. And it was lower TO>that Dropped D. Me and my friends saw his effects pedals, and saw what TO>he had. First of all a bass is one octave lower than the guitar. There TO>is a guitar effect called a pitch shifter which will take the sound TO>produced by the guitar up or down a certain number of steps. My friends TO>and i saw that the guy was using this setting where the pitch was shifted TO>to halfway between the octaves of bass and guitar. It was actually a TO>pretty cool effect. I don't know too much about those extra guitar things. All I have is a guitar and a shitty amp. I don't even think it's big enough to call an amp. talking about Circle of Power, Hiro sang that. I was listening to Tears to Forget, and it doesn't sound like Chris. I think it's Hiro, so maybe Chris plays bass on this song too. TO>Nope, but I'd love to see them to prove how wrong my theory is. -j Tabs aren't always right. On Loud Love, the music says to use an E bow at the beginning, and Kim said he doesn't even know what an E bow is. He just used feedback. TO> "caught a bolt of lightning, cursed the day he let it go..." YES! Nothingman -Could've been something, Nothingman. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Melvins AF>-- [ From: Casey Caughron * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- AF>OOPPS!! Did anyone catch my mistake in my Melvins message. AF>The name of the album is Houdini. Not hootch. "Hooch" is the name of AF>the first song on the album. AF>GOON You GOON. Nothingman -Geez. What a GOON. ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > I just thought of something. The Fell on Black Days demo was performed > by Matt and Chris. The guitar sounds way low for a regular guitar. I > know he could've tuned down, but I've tried this and it doesn't work > too good that low. is Chris playing a bass? I don't think he is, but > I can'tthink of anything else. Maybe I'm just hearing things. Anyone > have tabs for this song? > > Nothingman > > -Walkin' the Devil's dog and carrying his groceries. > Go out and buy yourself an octave effect pedal that isn't cheap. You can get the thing to go lower then. Trust me. I know more than burgers. ============================================================================== *MAYOR McCHEESE* ============================================================================== *The views expressed by Mayor McCheese (copyright 1975, McDonald's Corporatation, New York, NY) are not neccessarily those of McDonald's, or any of it's affiliates. All complaints and legal action are to be filed with GRIMACE, FRYGUY, HAMBURGLER, AND ASSOCIATES at Happyland Island, Indonesia. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 128] ****************************************