From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 12 Dec 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 12 Dec 1995 03:00:01 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 12 Dec 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: musings about soundgarden Re: Britpop + Seattle scenes Re: STP exit stonehenge band names Re: musings about soundgarden Re: Important message from the President The day I tried to live temple of the dog New thread!..please contribute Re: New thread!..please contribute Stolen Prayers Seasons Greetings New Metal Crown Re: Here kitty, kitty. Re: Here kitty, kitty. Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 7 Dec 1995 Sex Farm ? Re: temple of the dog Re: temple of the dog the final countdown Re: Stolen Prayers Re: STP long time coming, seemed to take me through... on your breast I might lay my crowded head... make no mistake I am what you make me... Jesus Christ Birthday Pose! exit stonehenge Totally unrelated...almost. Re: STP Re: Britpop + Seattle scenes temple of the dog New thread!..please contribute The day I tried to live the final countdown Too many? BAH-HUMBUG! long time coming, seemed to take me through... Room 1000a Wide/HIV Baby 7" Re: New thread!..please contribute Re: temple of the dog Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Andrea Subject: Re: musings about soundgarden VA>is it any good? Don't expect Soundgarden, but it's worth the money. Matt and Ben don't sing on the whole album. Ben plays the guitar instead of bass. The singer is Brain Wood (maybe Andy's relative?). - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hater played a show in seattle on Halloween & Ben Shepherd is now singing lead vocals. andrea@kidstar.com ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: Britpop + Seattle scenes > > BE>Seattle may be the same, but ever since John Wayne Gacy died, Chicago > BE>just hasn't had the same pizazz. But, Brian Denahey did a great > BE>impersonation for the made for t.v. movie. I wonder who will play Curt > BE>in the inevitable movie. My vote is Tom Arnold or Joey Buttafucco. > > But westerns won't be the same since John Wayne died. He was a real > man. None of this Brad Pitt shit. > While we're on the subject of John Waynes, maybe John Wayne Bobbitt > should play Curt (maybe in the X rated one). > > > Nothingman I don't know if you are joking, I suspect not but I don't think he meant John Wayne as in "get off your horse and drink your milk", cowboys and Indians, cliched western bullshit, I think he meant John Wayne GACY of raping and murdering little boys in Chicago fame, some people eh? Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: STP > > Am I the only person on here that liked Purple better than Core? I > like a couple songs off core, like Dead and Bloated (get's old after a > couple minutes), Sex Type Thing, Plush, and a couple others. But I > like all of Purple. Silvergun Superman is just freakin' awesome. > Unglued and Lounge Fly are too. I like this whole album, but it will > never compair to Soundgarden. > > Nothingman > > -What's real and what's for sale? You are indeed NOT the only person on this list who believes Purple is better than Core. Sure Core has some great heavy tracks on there but I think some tend to go on too long, as if they are just ensuring that the hook digs itself into our brains, also Core is a more derivative album than Purple and hence wears its influences on its sleeve more, regardless of whether it was a calculated bandwagon jumper or not. Purple is a far more mature and original sounding album, tracks like Vaseline and Interstate Love Song just burst out of the speakers (well, they do mine!!), Vaseline is one of the most danceable rock tracks i've ever heard, with some great drumming from Eric Kretz, i'm sick of all these righteous fans slagging them off just because they think that STP are fakers, to me they write amazing music, and ok, they may not have the inventive, unique qualities that Soundgarden have and maybe came onto the scene at exactly the wrong time to be taken seriously but they piss on so many other bands in terms of songwriting ability and great singalong melodies that I have to say to all you snobs out there, its you missing out cos' I know if you sat down and actually listened to their music you would like it. Daniel Garrett Too much trippin' and my soul's worn thin...... ------------------------------ From: "Mercyhurst Prep Library" Subject: exit stonehenge First of all, Merry Christams to all. If anyone wants to email me, you're welcome too. I'll miss the chatter over Seth's break. My own vacation is 12/22-1/2. secondly, I was told by my best friend, a huge Sgarden fan, that it's KIM THAYIL who "sings" on Exit Stonehenge. I just heard it then yesterday after she told me this, and it sure doesn't sound like Chris! see ya'll later! deb /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ Mercyhurst Preparatory School Keeping you connected in 1995! /\/\/\/\/\(C)1995TMK/\/\/\/\/\/\ ------------------------------ Subject: band names From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) Band Name Suggestions: Twisted Garden (A Soundgarden Fan Band) Diggin the Garden (Like the Soundgarden Bootleg) Real Wild Children (Another Soundgarden Bootleg) Tried to make it 'somewhat' Soundgarden related :) ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: musings about soundgarden On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, ADDC wrote: > > as i read the posts from somms lately, i have noticed something. it seems > that fewer and fewer posts are actually talking about soundgarden these > days. the topic goes everywhere from stp on one hand to cats falling out > of buildings on the other. i just hope when the list starts up in january > that somms will go back to the way it was when i first started reading it. > am i the only person who feels this way? i know i can't be. > > on to my question: _____________________________________________________________________________ This is just my opinion, but I didn't like Hater. There were one or two songs that were okay but the rest is just average. I believe it's been out for a little over a year, because I got a hater postcard in the mail last winter, Jennifer _____________________________________________________________________________ > > is hater matt cameron's band? have they released anything yet? if so, is > it any good? also does anyone know anything about hiro's band. someone > wrote that they thought that they were pretty good. why did hiro leave > the band? did anyone see soundgarden's "new" video on 120 last week. it > was for the song "superunknown". that matt pinfield guy said it > incorporated images from their new cd-rom. it looked incredible. oh well, > that's all for now. to everybody on the list, have a great holiday and to > all the college kids, good luck on next weeks finals. later. > > Mr. Santa Claus himself, > > Vince from utd > > ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: Important message from the President On 9 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > > > JY>> -Hundred miles of chicken wire something something something... > > >> what? > __________________________________________________________________________ I didn't mean anything by it, I just haven't (still) heard the song yet, and I had no idea what it was ;). -jennifer __________________________________________________________________________ > That's part of Kyle Petty, Son of Richard. I just don't know what he > says. :) > > > Nothingman > > -Comin' up on your right, comin' up on your right, comin' up on your > right... > ------------------------------ From: msukovich@attmail.com (Michael J Sukovich) Subject: The day I tried to live Hey all, This weekend I wallowed in the blood and mud and I learned that I was a liar. And I don't say 'one more time around' anymore. If your curiosity is piqued, I'd love to invite you all to join me Tuesday night December 12th in Edison, New Jersey, USA at the Landmark Education Corporation at 7:30 pm. I promise that it is well worth whatever it takes you to get there. Mike ps - Imagine if Mr. Cornell, Mr. Thayill, Mr. Cameron and Mr. Sheppard somehow actually see this. I have this amazing feeling that you know just what I'm talking about. (sorry if I spelled any names wrong or any one is mad because this is only vaguely SG related) ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: temple of the dog I hadn't listened to TOTD for quite a while because I have it on cassette and it's kind of torn up, but everyone talking about it made me want to. so I did. Does anyone else think the songs on TOTD are some of the best songs ever written? I like Soundgarden better in general, but god, I think chris and eddie together was one of the best ideas ever. Times of Trouble and Reach Down (minus the long part), Pushing Foward Back.... If I were on a desert island, that would be it. Well that and louder than love. jennifer p.s.: I think I get a cookie or something because this was entirely sg/totd related. :=) ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: New thread!..please contribute I was sitting in the locker room (no gym today, there's a bloodmobile in the gym) when I suddenly thought, what would the ultimate Soundgarden set list be... for them to play live? Any suggestions? Here's mine... Entering Nothing To Say Little Joe Hand of God Beyond the Wheel Mood For Trouble No Wrong No Right Rusty Cage Slaves & Bulldozers Somewhere Mind Riot Holy Water Superunknown Head Down Black Hole Sun Limo Wreck Fresh Tendrils 4th of July Like Suicide well, I'd include all their songs, but wouldn't they be quite worn out afterward? This is in no particular order, I just ran through the albums and found whatever songs I'd like to see them do live the most.. Please, tell me what YOUR ideal SG set list would be, so I don't feel like an utter moron ;) Foreshocks ------------------------------ From: "Jennifer L. York" Subject: Re: New thread!..please contribute On Mon, 11 Dec 1995 foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com wrote: > I was sitting in the locker room (no gym today, there's a bloodmobile in > the gym) when I suddenly thought, what would the ultimate Soundgarden > set list be... for them to play live? Any suggestions? Here's mine... > > Entering > Nothing To Say yes > Little Joe yes > Hand of God > Beyond the Wheel yes > Mood For Trouble > No Wrong No Right yes > Rusty Cage yes > Slaves & Bulldozers > Somewhere > Mind Riot yes > Holy Water oh my god yes > Superunknown > Head Down > Black Hole Sun > Limo Wreck yes > Fresh Tendrils > 4th of July > Like Suicide yes - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I would add: Searching with my good eye closed (as an intro because it starts out so cool) Mailman drawing flies jesus christ pose head injury or toy box face pollution tears to forget jennifer _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > well, I'd include all their songs, but wouldn't they be quite worn out > afterward? This is in no particular order, I just ran through the albums > and found whatever songs I'd like to see them do live the most.. > Please, tell me what YOUR ideal SG set list would be, so I don't feel > like an utter moron ;) > Foreshocks > > > ------------------------------ From: dasanche@students.wisc.edu (Damion) Subject: Stolen Prayers Does anybody know where any of the songs off of Stolen Prayers were recorded? Does anybody know if "Fluttergirl" or "Missing" were recorded on any professional quality CDs? Thanks, Damion dasanche@students.wisc.edu ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Seasons Greetings Hello there list pals, Since the list shuts down in two days I thought I would unleash my thoughts on all 400+ of you. Those of us who have been fortunate enough to hear the live version of Beyond The Wheel know that even though the original one kicked ass the new version shits all over it. We also know that the live version of Jesus Christ Pose shits all over the album version. Does that mean in 7 years that the live version of Head down will shit all over the studio one. It seems to be pleasant trend, hell it seems like Room a Thousand Years wide gets better by the day. Anyway just a weird thought I was having while screaming the words to beyond the wheel at the top of my lungs last night. It's finals week and I am losing my sanity. Btw has anyone heard Fourth Of July or Fresh Tendrils live, I have heard Foj but not Fresh Tendrils. Clown ********************************************************************** If some woman came out of lake waving a scimitar at me and I ran round saying I was king, people would think I was crazy. -Monty Python ------------------------------ From: MAYOR McCHEESE Subject: New Metal Crown Hey, is anybody besides me reading this Soundgarden bio? It's by Chris Nickson. Anyone finish it yet? I am on page 100. Any thoughts on it out there? So, far it is O.K. Wish there were more anecdotes. Till we meet again, Your True Love, the Mayor McCheese ============================================================================== *MAYOR McCHEESE* ============================================================================== *The views expressed by Mayor McCheese (copyright 1975, McDonald's Corporatation, New York, NY) are not neccessarily those of McDonald's, or any of it's affiliates. All complaints and legal action are to be filed with GRIMACE, FRYGUY, HAMBURGLER, AND ASSOCIATES at Happyland Island, Indonesia. ------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty. I thought that was a hot buttered ear of corn??!!??!!? Curt > > I must admit, that was the sickest joke I ever heard when I was in the > fourth grade. Ranks right up there with the hot-buttered carrot joke. > > Matthew. > ------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty. > > > I still think that it's pretty sick. it's not the sickest joke I know, > but that's not the point. It was the sickest joke I knew that dealt with > cat's asses. You have to work at it a little but eventually perseverence pays off. Curt > And anyway, a greased cat's ass is a pretty sick concept if you > think about it. wouldn't it be too small? (not that i would know, but, > well, nevermind) > > pete > ------------------------------ From: Jovica Popovic Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 7 Dec 1995 ------------------------------ > From: He Who Walks Between > Subject: Re: The virus thing. > > On Wed, 6 Dec 1995 ansel@morgan.com wrote: > > > So, can anyone tell me how to make an embarrassed expression > > with keyboard characters? > I think Moon Druid could supply you with one of these if he was around. > Anyone remeber that guy w/ flamethrower that he did? > Newbies, yall missed it. it was awesome. -j I don't mean to sound vain or anything, but I was the one that sent that flamthrower picure. But, I didn't draw it, I picked it up somewhere on the 'net... ------------------------------ > Subject: Re: Newbie - somms mailing list > From: seth > > Member directory?? There are still only the original photos up there, > > right? C'mon Seth, we wanna see what all of us freaks out here look > > like........... > > Well, if some of you freaks would either email or real mail me some > photos, we'd be in business. I only have four more real photos to > scan: Carolyn the Magnificently Fotogenic, Tonerkins, DanaBT, and > Steve. So get on it people. I never seem to find a scanner around... And the only digitised picture I have so far is 3 years old, and not very flattering... - --- jpop@fly.cc.fer.hr --- Sit back and watch my divine spark flash... -- jovica.popovic@fer.hr -- Disclaimer: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do - Jovica Popovic - it, can't prove anything! ------------------------------ From: DanaBT@aol.com Subject: Sex Farm ? I just subscribed to the AIC mailing list for the helluva it and found it interesting while reading the archives that about one in five posts also mentioned SG. One guy said that his friend had a a recording of SG doing "Sex Farm" by Spinal Tap and how rare that it was. I thought that possibly he had gotten it mixed up with "Big Bottom". Actually I thought "Sex Farm" was the most hilarious songs on the record (yes, it's kind of embarrassing but I do own the silly thing) and would love to find SG's version if it's true. Has anyone else heard this?-Dana "working on a sex farm, trying to raise some hard love, gettin' out my pitchfork, pokin' your hay!" -Spinal Tap ------------------------------ From: Sachin Trivedi Subject: Re: temple of the dog I would just like to agree. TOTD is my favorite CD, every song is incredible, especially All Night Thing and Say Hello to Heaven. In my opinion, it is some of Chris Cornell's best songwriting. On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Jennifer L. York wrote: > > I hadn't listened to TOTD for quite a while because I have it on cassette > and it's kind of torn up, but everyone talking about it made me want to. > so I did. Does anyone else think the songs on TOTD are some of the best > songs ever written? I like Soundgarden better in general, but god, I > think chris and eddie together was one of the best ideas ever. Times of > Trouble and Reach Down (minus the long part), Pushing Foward Back.... If I > were on a desert island, that would be it. Well that and louder than love. > jennifer > p.s.: > I think I get a cookie or something because this was entirely sg/totd related. > :=) > ------------------------------ Subject: Re: temple of the dog From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > > > I hadn't listened to TOTD for quite a while because I have it on cassette > and it's kind of torn up, but everyone talking about it made me want to. > so I did. Does anyone else think the songs on TOTD are some of the best > songs ever written? Absolutely... :) > I like Soundgarden better in general, but god, I > think chris and eddie together was one of the best ideas ever. Times of > Trouble and Reach Down (minus the long part), Pushing Foward Back.... All those songs don't feature Eddie Vedder, except Pushing forward back.. I reckon the best song of the lot was Hunger Strike (IMHO) Matt ------------------------------ Subject: the final countdown From: seth As you know by now, the list will be shut down at roughly 5AM, Wednesday, December 13. That leaves us with about 33.5 hours -- the conversation will pick up again in January. I hope all of you have a safe and happy holiday season, doing whatever it is you people do when you're not causing trouble on the list. seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: teeger@mail.uTexas.edu (Krissy) Subject: Re: Stolen Prayers >Does anybody know where any of the songs off of Stolen Prayers were >recorded? Does anybody know if "Fluttergirl" or "Missing" were recorded on >any professional quality CDs? > >Thanks, >Damion >dasanche@students.wisc.edu >************************************************************************ I don't know if this answers your question... When I sent $8 to join the SG fan club (Knights of the Soundtable) in late '93, I received a package in the mail including a band bio, a button, stickers, and a CD entitled "Poncier" (like Cliff from Singles). This CD has Seasons, a different version of Spoonman, Flutter Girl, Missing, and Nowhere But You on it. There's no information on the CD cover except for a phony address (the letter I sent there got returned). I don't know the story behind this CD but I figure this was probably the most official/professional version you'll find, since it came from the fan club. I hear that all these songs are now available on various bootleg cds. This is just my speculation, but it seems like these are just a handful of songs Chris did by himself for fun. Who knows... Krissy ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: STP On 9 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > Am I the only person on here that liked Purple better than Core? I I don't want to stray too far away from soundgarden here, but I liked purple a lot more than core, because their song writing is so much better by their second album. the songs are much more diverse on purple, and aren't quite as 'butt-rocky' as core. not that core is an uncool album, because it blew me away the first time I heard it. but songs like interstate love song and big empty put it ahead of the first record (imho) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: long time coming, seemed to take me through... On Sun, 10 Dec 1995 buddha@dmv.com wrote: > Yet another, but more rare, recording are the pre-Pearl Jam, pre-TOTD 'Stone > Gassard Demos'. Stone, Jeff Ament and I think Mike McCready are on it and > Matt Cameron fills the drum spot in. It has all instumental version of PJ > product but Matt's drumming on them blows the other ten drummers PJ has had > to date away!!! stone has gone on record as saying that matt is by far the best rock drummer going around these days, and that he'd love to be in a band with him. good to see that he understands :) as for him being better than all the pearl jam drummers (isn't it a shame that you have to use *all* in that sentence? pearl jam are turning into spinal tap or something), I have to agree. but dave a isn't too far behind him in terms of skill and sheer ferocity in live shows. which is more than can be said for ole' jack :( in addition to being an exceptional drummer, I admire matt's ability to write music. especially the songs he contributed to superunknown, like mailman, limo wreck and fresh tendrils. there aren't a lot of bands around that have drummers who can write such good songs, and the overall sound of soundgarden's (didn't that sound bad?) music would be very different. not to overlook what his drum sound does for the band. chris may have written the main riff for jcp, but I'm sure that he didn't figure out that wacky drum beat :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: on your breast I might lay my crowded head... On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, Andrea wrote: > Don't expect Soundgarden, but it's worth the money. Matt and Ben don't > sing on the whole album. Ben plays the guitar instead of bass. The > singer is Brain Wood (maybe Andy's relative?). > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Hater played a show in seattle on Halloween & Ben Shepherd is now singing > lead vocals. I was almost sure that matt sings on one of the songs too. just like he did on that song off the 'killer tomatoes' soundtrack :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: make no mistake I am what you make me... On Mon, 11 Dec 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > hear the live version of Beyond The Wheel know that even though the > original one kicked ass the new version shits all over it. We also know > that the live version of Jesus Christ Pose shits all over the album > version. Does that mean in 7 years that the live version of Head down will > shit all over the studio one. It seems to be pleasant trend, hell it seems not a weird thought at all clown (btw, do you come in a christmas edition, with pull-string and realistic ho-ho-ho sounds?). there's a lot to be said for playing old songs, when it comes to soundgarden. I'd wager that if they re-recorded screaming life, it would sound about ten times better, and not just because of mixing and more production. those songs are really raw (not that that is a bad thing) and it sounds like chris is only just getting used to using his throat after jumping down off the drum riser :) so yeah, it is a pleasant trend. they must have more skill with and control over their instruments these days, and can get more out of the songs, especially the ones they recorded seven years ago. I know that I'd rather listen to littlejoe done live now than I would listen to that godawful first pressing :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Jesus Christ Birthday Pose! Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Night See Ya next Year!!! T ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: exit stonehenge ME>secondly, I was told by my best friend, a huge Sgarden fan, that it's ME>KIM THAYIL who "sings" on Exit Stonehenge. I just heard it then ME>yesterday after she told me this, and it sure doesn't sound like Chris! I didn't think that was Chris. I suspected Kim, but I've only heard his speaking voice a couple times, never his screaming growl of a voice. Nothingman -Jesus, I can't touch my penis! ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Totally unrelated...almost. TO>Remember when you were saying maybe you should change your name to TO>Spoonman? TO>Well, people told you that maybe you should try Kyle Petty, Son of TO>Richard. Well, that's been taken. So how about try Cold Bitch? TO>(heh, heh). Na, that's my girlfriend. Besides, I'd rather be Drawing Flies. Nothingman -I tried to draw flies once, but I couldn't get one to sit still long enough. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: STP DG>You are indeed NOT the only person on this list who believes Purple is bette DG>than Core. Sure Core has some great heavy tracks on there but I think some DG>tend to go on too long, as if they are just ensuring that the hook digs itse DG>into our brains, also Core is a more derivative album than Purple and hence DG>wears its influences on its sleeve more, regardless of whether it was a DG>calculated bandwagon jumper or not. Purple is a far more mature and origina DG>sounding album, tracks like Vaseline and Interstate Love Song just burst out DG>of the speakers (well, they do mine!!), Vaseline is one of the most danceabl DG>rock tracks i've ever heard, with some great drumming from Eric Kretz, i'm s DG>of all these righteous fans slagging them off just because they think that S DG>are fakers, to me they write amazing music, and ok, they may not have the DG>inventive, unique qualities that Soundgarden have and maybe came onto the sc DG>at exactly the wrong time to be taken seriously but they piss on so many oth DG>bands in terms of songwriting ability and great singalong melodies that I ha DG>to say to all you snobs out there, its you missing out cos' I know if you sa DG>down and actually listened to their music you would like it. I remember hearing people say that they were Pearl Jam rip offs, but I don't think they sounded too much like Pearl Jam. I mean, they are in the same genre, so they should sound at least similar, but then we could say that all the "grunge" bands are Soundgarden wannabes...except, of course, the Melvins. Which brings up a question...are they any good? I hear Kim say they were a major influence to him and the band, and to the Seattle scene, but I haven't really paid attention to their music much, and I'm too poor right now to buy a CD that sucks. Nothingman -But if Kim says they're good, I'm sure they're not all bad. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Britpop + Seattle scenes DG>> But westerns won't be the same since John Wayne died. He was a real DG>> man. None of this Brad Pitt shit. DG>> While we're on the subject of John Waynes, maybe John Wayne Bobbitt DG>> should play Curt (maybe in the X rated one). DG>> DG>> DG>> Nothingman DG>I don't know if you are joking, I suspect not but I don't think he meant Joh DG>Wayne as in "get off your horse and drink your milk", cowboys and Indians, DG>cliched western bullshit, I think he meant John Wayne GACY of raping and DG>murdering little boys in Chicago fame, some people eh? Of course I was serious (for once). John Wayne was the shiznit. So it's cliched western bullshit. Who made it a cliche? Exactly...John Wayne did (and all the others that copied him). But the cliched westerns now really suck (usually anyway). I saw Tombstone recently, and if it weren't for Val Kilmer, it would've really sucked. Nothingman -Damn you! And the horse you rode in on. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: temple of the dog JY>I hadn't listened to TOTD for quite a while because I have it on cassette JY>and it's kind of torn up, but everyone talking about it made me want to. JY>so I did. Does anyone else think the songs on TOTD are some of the best JY>songs ever written? I like Soundgarden better in general, but god, I JY>think chris and eddie together was one of the best ideas ever. Times of JY>Trouble and Reach Down (minus the long part), Pushing Foward Back.... If I JY>were on a desert island, that would be it. Well that and louder than love. I absolutely LOVE that album. Chris and Eddie together on Hunger Strike just kicks ass (Chris on first verse, Eddie on second, and both after that). Eddie didn't have much to do with the writing, though. Although I don't think he could've hurt it any. Pushin' Forward Back, and Hunger Strike were the only ones Eddie was in (I think, but I still haven't heard him on Pushin'...). I love that part in Reach Down where Chris sings that 4 part thing. He just wails over himself! Times Of Trouble is the greatest. "If somebody loved you and left you for dead..." That's a great line. All Night Thing has the coolest tinkly piano in the background of the secnd chorus. It gives me chills. Call Me A Dog...wow. Just shows how much of a gentleman Chris is. "When it's my time....I'll call you beautiful, if I call at all." Well, so I'm a dog, but you're still beautiful. I just can't get enough of it. I'd love to see some more songs like that in the future. JY>p.s.: JY> I think I get a cookie or something because this was entirely sg/totd relat JY> :=) I should get one too. I even quoted. :) Nothingman -Cn I be saved? I spent all my money on a future grave. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: New thread!..please contribute FO>Please, tell me what YOUR ideal SG set list would be, so I don't feel FO>like an utter moron ;) Ok, here's mine: Little Joe (kicked ass on Motorvision) Loud Love Gun (I love this song, besides, Kim said that when they play it live, Matt gets carried away with the tempo and plays so fast that the rest of them can't keep up. That would be cool to see...my favorite band mess up. :) Big Dumb Sex (so it's silly. It still rocks.) Rusty Cage Jesus Christ Pose Drawing Flies (I can't get enough of this song) Mind Riot (blew me away on Motorvision) Fell On Black Days (something like the video version) Let Me Drown (this would be a freakin' awesome opener...gets attention fast) Something from Temple Of The Dog, like Your Savior. I think Soundgarden should release this themselves. Maybe even Kickstand, and a few others. It's really hard to decide, because I like so many songs. I think the first part is a pretty good one though. Oh, I forgot ULTRAMEGA OK! They definately need to play Smokestack Lightning (even though it's not theirs) and that song before Beyond the Wheel (not the 665->667 thing, but the second song, I think. It just totally left my mind. Anyone have the lyrics to that song?) Well, I think that just about covers everything that Soundgarden has released. :) Nothingman -She sits in the top of the greenest tree. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: The day I tried to live MS>ps - Imagine if Mr. Cornell, Mr. Thayill, Mr. Cameron and Mr. Sheppard MS>somehow actually see this. I have this amazing feeling that you know just wh MS>I'm talking about. I don't...fill me in. Nothingman -I never get anything. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: the final countdown SA>I hope all of you have a safe and happy holiday season, doing whatever SA>it is you people do when you're not causing trouble on the list. Causing trouble? Who me? Nothingman -I'll hammer on until you fight. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Too many? BAH-HUMBUG! I know I've sent about a zillion messages today, but you have a year till I get to send more, so live with it. :) Happy Christmas, and Merry New Year (I know mine will be VERY merry). If anyone gets bored and need someone to write to, write to me, because as you can see, I have nothing better to do than write to people. Actually, I'm just too damn lazy to get off my ass and do something productive. Nothingman -One who loved what love denied. ------------------------------ From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us Subject: long time coming, seemed to take me through... S3> in addition to being an exceptional drummer, I admire matt's S3>ability to write music. especially the songs he contributed to S3>superunknown, like mailman, limo wreck and fresh tendrils. there aren't a S3>lot of bands around that have drummers who can write such good songs, and S3>the overall sound of soundgarden's (didn't that sound bad?) music would be S3>very different. not to overlook what his drum sound does for the band. S3>chris may have written the main riff for jcp, but I'm sure that he didn't S3>figure out that wacky drum beat :) I dunno...Chris was the original drummer in Soundgarden. Kim and Hiro were the guitar players, and Chris was the drummer and singer. He decided drumming was limiting his vocal ability, so they got Matt. Chris has been playing drums since he was 15, although I'm sure he's not as good as Matt. I also hear Matt's pretty good on guitar. After all, he did write the music for Room a Thousand Years Wide, and that riff just rocks. That would be cool to see Matt playing the guitar, and Chris drumming...or maybe Kim... Nothingman -Or how about Kim singing? "EXIT STONEHENGE! EXIT STONEHENGE!" ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Room 1000a Wide/HIV Baby 7" I just got this 7" in the mail today. The recording of Room 1000 Years Wide is different than Badmotorfinger, it sounds cool. The recording of HIV Baby is the same as the Born To Choose version only it hasn't been digitally remastered. People with this 7" - did you notice the whispring at the end or R1000YW? Have you deciphered it? AM I hearing things? Is it just me or are those cricket noises just strange Kim Thayil feedback? ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Re: New thread!..please contribute They can play anything but they must play: Gun Birth Ritual 4th of July Room A Thousand Years Wide Like Suicide No Attention ------------------------------ From: Paul Sorrells Subject: Re: temple of the dog get off it. The long part in "Reach Down" is the shit. On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > > JY>I hadn't listened to TOTD for quite a while because I have it on cassette > JY>and it's kind of torn up, but everyone talking about it made me want to. > JY>so I did. Does anyone else think the songs on TOTD are some of the best > JY>songs ever written? I like Soundgarden better in general, but god, I > JY>think chris and eddie together was one of the best ideas ever. Times of > JY>Trouble and Reach Down (minus the long part), Pushing Foward Back.... If I > JY>were on a desert island, that would be it. Well that and louder than love. > > I absolutely LOVE that album. Chris and Eddie together on Hunger > Strike just kicks ass (Chris on first verse, Eddie on second, and both > after that). Eddie didn't have much to do with the writing, though. > Although I don't think he could've hurt it any. Pushin' Forward Back, > and Hunger Strike were the only ones Eddie was in (I think, but I still > haven't heard him on Pushin'...). I love that part in Reach Down where > Chris sings that 4 part thing. He just wails over himself! Times Of > Trouble is the greatest. "If somebody loved you and left you for > dead..." That's a great line. All Night Thing has the coolest tinkly > piano in the background of the secnd chorus. It gives me chills. Call > Me A Dog...wow. Just shows how much of a gentleman Chris is. "When > it's my time....I'll call you beautiful, if I call at all." Well, so > I'm a dog, but you're still beautiful. I just can't get enough of it. > I'd love to see some more songs like that in the future. > > JY>p.s.: > JY> I think I get a cookie or something because this was entirely sg/totd relat > JY> :=) > > I should get one too. I even quoted. :) > > Nothingman > > -Cn I be saved? I spent all my money on a future grave. > ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > S3>chris may have written the main riff for jcp, but I'm sure that he didn't > S3>figure out that wacky drum beat :) > > I dunno...Chris was the original drummer in Soundgarden. Kim and Hiro > were the guitar players, and Chris was the drummer and singer. He I think that when a singer writes a song, he or she generally leaves it up to the drummer as to how the drums are going to be played. and even though chris does have a history of playing drums (and I'd be very interested in hearing just how good he is), he would in most cases let matt make up his own mind on the percussion side of things. the same would hold true for ben and his bass. I read that ben wrote the bass line for fell on black days, but he doesn't get any credit for it on the record (the way it should be). so considering that the whole band gets credit for jcp, the drums were probably matt's domain. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Paul Sorrells Subject: Re: long time coming, seemed to take me through... You are assuming too much as far as the individual musicians are concerned. I know where of I speak. On Tue, 12 Dec 1995, blind dog wrote: > On 12 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote: > > > S3>chris may have written the main riff for jcp, but I'm sure that he didn't > > S3>figure out that wacky drum beat :) > > > > I dunno...Chris was the original drummer in Soundgarden. Kim and Hiro > > were the guitar players, and Chris was the drummer and singer. He > > > I think that when a singer writes a song, he or she generally > leaves it up to the drummer as to how the drums are going to be played. > and even though chris does have a history of playing drums (and I'd be > very interested in hearing just how good he is), he would in most cases > let matt make up his own mind on the percussion side of things. the same > would hold true for ben and his bass. I read that ben wrote the bass > line for fell on black days, but he doesn't get any credit for it on the > record (the way it should be). so considering that the whole band gets > credit for jcp, the drums were probably matt's domain. > > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 127] ****************************************