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Today's Topics:
 

                                Re: Lyrics...
                                Re: Lyrics...
             Re: Band Names -- Help! Calling all SOMMS members.
                        Re: Featured Band name: Bread
                                Re: Lyrics...
                       Re: Newbie - somms mailing list
                                Re: Lyrics...
                                  Re: Alive
                             Re: various topics
                               another new one
                            Idea about Band Names
                           Re: Prolonging threads
                    Important message from the President
                  Re:CHRIS AND EDDIE ARE THE DYNAMIC DUO!!
                                 Re: my wave
                             Here kitty, kitty.
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                       God Save The Queen, yeah right.
                               Eye--SG Import
                           Re: Prolonging threads
                              Times of Trouble
                        Re: Featured Band name: Bread
                            Spoonman's difficult
                          Re: Idea about Band Names
                           Re: Prolonging threads
                          Re: Idea about Band Names
                                 Re: my wave
                           Re: Prolonging threads
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                          Stone Gossard's Rip-offs
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                        Re: Stone Gossard's Rip-offs
                            Re: Times of Trouble
                                Re: Band Name
                       Re: Completely unrelated to sg.
                     RE: God Save The Queen, yeah right.
                          Re: Idea about Band Names
                  re: various topics esp : Britpop is dead
                                  Re: Alive
                            Re: PJ's Dirty Frank
                              beyond the wheel
                                Re: Lyrics...
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                         Re: sorry, it's not re: SG
                              Spoonman (remix)
                            Re: beyond the wheel
                        Re: Featured Band name: Bread
                            Spoonman's difficult
                                 Re: my wave
                          Re: Idea about Band Names
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                                  Re: Alive
                          Britpop + Seattle scenes
                                Re: Lyrics...
                                Re: Lyrics...
                       Re: Newbie - somms mailing list
                       Re: Newbie - somms mailing list
                                Re: Lyrics...
                                Re: Lyrics...
                            Re: beyond the wheel
                          bits n bobs, tits n knobs
                                   Re: STP
                               Seasons Lyrics
                            Re: Spoonman (remix)
                                Re: Band Name
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                  Re: Important message from the President
                               Oasis=glamband
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                             Re: Black Hole ROM
                          Britpop + Seattle scenes
                                     STP
 Temper Tantrums from little babies who need their mommies to burp them and clea
                        Re: Britpop + Seattle scenes
                             Black Hole ROM URL
                             Re: Black Hole ROM
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                     re: God Save The Queen, yeah right
                               Black Hole ROM
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                                Re: Lyrics...
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                           Re: Here kitty, kitty.
                  only a little soundgarden from atn. (fwd)

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

CS>Seasons goes like this (i think)

CS>The sun that lights the long warm days
CS>Is stollen as the old moon falls
CS>and the mirror shows another face
CS>Another place to hide it all
CS>"                        "

CS>Chorus:
CS>And I'm left...behind
CS>(can't remember)
CS>And I'm lost...behind
CS>As the seasons roll on by

CS>Sleeping w/ a full moon blanket
CS>Saving(?) feathers for my head
CS>And the dreams have never been the answer
CS>the dreams'll never make my bed, dreams'll
CS>never make my bed

CS>Chorus:

CS>Well I wanna find it(help!) from the storm
CS>But you can't drop feathers in the rain
CS>And the naked floor is cold as hell
CS>Oooh, the naked floor reminds me,
CS>"                             "

CS>Chorus:

CS>If I should be short on words
CS>and long on things to say,
CS>could you crawl inside my world
CS>and take these words away?
CS>Could I be beside myself and never even
CS>stay...

CS>Chorus:

Ok, thanks.  I always could tell most of it, but I couldn't put it
together.

CS>In the background of Hand of God he's saying
CS>"Let it be known today that if you got two hands
CS>you're supposed to pray."

I heard that part, but isn't there like a big speech at the end?

CS>I have no idea what he says in the beginning.

CS>I think there is one part in FOPP where Chris says fuck
CS>instead of Fopp, "Fuck w/ me and I'll fuck w/ you"

I didn't notice that.  I think I remember some news report type things
at the end of this song.

                                                              Nothingman
 
  -Little Joe run for the boarder.  Leave your home...

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

TO>So what's the punch line to the fat guy joke?????????????????

The punchline was my tagline.  Apparently you missed it...or didn't get
it.

TO>But yes, you have the lyrics to Exit Stonehenge right.

Wow, that's pretty cool.  Do you know who's doing the vocals?

TO>Except for the background stuff in fopp.  But don't worry, i'm gonna 
TO>figure that out and then contribute it.  Adios compadre.

Maybe I'll try and listen a little closer later and contribute to my
own question.

                                                                
Nothingman

  -She lived like a murder, but she died, just like suicide.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Band Names -- Help! Calling all SOMMS members.

BK>1.Resonance
BK>2.Black Orpheus
BK>3.Oracle
BK>4.Cut
BK>5.

You fizzled out, man.
 
                 Nothingman 
  
  -Too bad I'm never gonna...      :)

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Featured Band name: Bread



BK>Actually, there was a group back in the early seventies(quite a 
BK>popular group too!) called Bread.  They were a real mellow, folkie 
BK>kind of band.  My parents have all of their work on 8-tracks!!

BK>BK

Wow, I have their greatest works on CD.  
 
                           Nothingman
 
  -If a picture paints a thousand ords, then why can't I paint you?

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

AN>     Chris does the vocals on 'Exit Stonehenge'.  I have a theory 
AN>     about this song.  Anyone want to help me prove it?  Well, we 
AN>     know that SG fancy doing Spinal Tap cover tunes and I 
AN>     noticed that there is a ST song called 'Stonehenge'.  Does 
AN>     anyone know what this ST song sounds like or what its about? 
AN>     Could SG's 'Exit Stonehenge' be derived from the ST tune, 
AN>     perhaps?  Hmm.
AN>     
AN>     Vikki

Well, I have the tape, and as soon as I find it, I'll give it a listen
and tell you.
 
                                                                    
Nothingman
 
  -The Spinal Tap Stonehenge has a really cool Irish soundin' part.

AN>______________________________ Reply Separator _____________________________
AN>Subject: Lyrics...
AN>Author:  rc@gcc.cc.md.us at nylanr01
AN>Date:    12/7/95 2:31 PM

AN>  And what's with Stonehenge?  It's freakin' awesome, but who's singing?

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Newbie - somms mailing list


SA>My real mail address is on the Member Directory page
SA>(http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list). I don't have
SA>much time on my hands right now, but I will in January,
SA>when all I plan to be doing is going to work and doing
SA>Soundgarden Web stuff.

SA>seth

My BBS is just getting Web stuff, so i should be there as soon as I
hook up Netscape (hopefully tomorrow).  I've been waiting a long time
to see this page.  I've seen a couple of Soundgarden pages, but I don't
think any were yours.  I'll be sure to remember to like it. :)
Aren't you a student at MIT?  Damn, you must be good a scheduling time.

                                                           Nothingman
 
  -Search light soul, they say, but I can't see it in the night.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

GK>I've got a revised copy of Kyle Petty on my web site.  I took it from 
GK>Seth's and edited it.  I think it's mostly correct except for the line 
GK>about "a hundred miles of chicken wire and (steel walls?)"

While I'm singin' to it, I always say, "Hundred miles and chicken wire,
on my way."
 
                                                          Nothingman
 
  -Kinda like, "She lives like a mother but she died, just like
suicide."

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Alive

GK>Kyle Petty is a NASCAR driver, and his dad is Richard Petty, who is a 
GK>NASCAR legend.  If you listen carefully, it's just about winning.
GK>"coming up on your right, Don't you fuck with me tonight" 

I knew they were racers, but I couldn't figure out why Chris wrote a
song about 'em.  I guess the same reason he wrote about Jerry Garcia's
finger. :)
 
                                                                 
Nothingman
 
  -I'll post the lyrics to Jerry Garcia's Finger......ok, all done.  ;)

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: various topics

ER>WHAT ABOUT THE CHARLATANS?!?!?!?!

What about 'em?
I heard they are pretty good.  Kinda like James.
 
                              Nothingman
 
  -At least I think this is the same band.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: another new one

LA>I'll just add that Jesus Christ Pose will probably remain my all-time
LA>favorite song ever for a long time in the future!  

That song does kick MUCH ass.  Little Joe rocks too.  Especially on
Motorvision.

LA>Keep on rockin' in the free world, but keep it off my wave.

And you stare at me in your big dumb sex.

LA>Toooooo bad you all can't look through my green tinted sixties mind.

Ahhh, Mr. Big.  I've seen some green tinted sixties minds, and believe
me, you don't wanna see 'em.

LA>"Forgive, O Lord, my little jokes on thee, and I'll forgive thy great big
LA>one on me."

                                                              
Nothingman
 
  -Tightrope walkin' in two ton shoes.

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Idea about Band Names

AL>After thinking all night, I figured this out:

AL>	**********************************
AL>	*     Send all the band names    *
AL>	*      you can think of to:      *
AL>	*				 *
AL>	*    gstanway@mail.wincom.net    *
AL>	*    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    *
AL>	*                                *
AL>	**********************************

AL>				URB@NO

That's no fun.  The you can't all see what a dolt I am.
YAAAA!!! MORE!
 
Freshly Dying
Seeing Blind
Whatever Someday
Mini Hatter Haters
Superincubated
Future Artifacts
Dreams Away

         Nothingman
 
  -Am I getting any better?

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Prolonging threads



CS>If anyone has the cd maxi single for jeremy by PJ, the second song on 
CS>there sounds exactly like "Times of Trouble" by TOTD.  I mean exactly 
CS>(underline exactly)

CS>		Curt

What's this song called?  Are the lyrics similar too?  I just might
have to buy it now.
 
                                         Nothingman
 
  -If somebody loved you and left you for dead...

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Important message from the President

JY>You know what I really like? Any song that begins with Chris singing 
JY>along or the same note as the guitar (Loud Love). He is incredible. Okay 
JY>Im done. 

Loud Love kicks ass.  i love to play my guitar along with that song. 
And Rusty Cage just makes me wanna get up and jump around.
The best head bobbing song has to be Kyle Petty.  Listen to it...makes
me wish I had hydralics in my neck.
 
                                                            Nothingman
 
  -Hundred miles of chicken wire something something something...

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re:CHRIS AND EDDIE ARE THE DYNAMIC DUO!!

NF>no flame taken at all! i just was saying it was weird that these 
NF>people <not ALL NIN fans> who made fun of me when i got into 
NF>soundgarden in the 6th grade and they were into vanilla ice and m.c. 
NF>hammer are now <still preppie losers, probably still vanilla ice and 
NF>new kids on the block fans> are liking the music i've always been 
NF>partial to....<can i get a "WHOA SWEET IRONIC JUSTICE!!!"?!?!> heh 
NF>heh...
NF>dani

HEY!  There's nothing wrong with Vanilla Ice.
 
                               Nothingman
 
  -Except that he stole all his songs...he sucks...his hair
sucks...shall I go on?

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From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: my wave

TO>Thanks for the My Wave stuff.  I never could figure out how to make that 
TO>high pitched sound!!!      (But i did guess there was a high d note in 
TO>there somewhere!!  Actually, i was thinking C#, but for me that's too 
TO>close to complain.)   Yeah, send me Spoonman.  And is there anyway you 
TO>can figure out Smokestack Lightning?
TO>And my heavy guage 3rd string DID NOT LIKE being tuned up to B.  I 
TO>thought i might, for the second time ever, break an Ernie Ball string!
TO>But i didn't.   Well, thanx for the help.  -j

This is what I do in my spare time.  Sit in front of the stereo and
play Soundgarden (started on AC/DC because it was easy).
Spoonman isn't too hard, but I've only got the main part.  Not that
cool riff right after Chris sings "Spoonman!" but hey, it's free.
 
Spoonman:
Tune bottom string to D.  Using only the bottom three strings (same
frets on all three strings), play:
10-12-12-12-10-12-7-5-7-3-0-0-3-3-3-0-0-0 (those three 3's at the end
could be 5's...but it just doesn't sound right that way)
It's not that hard, you just have to be quick on the draw.

I always wanted to figure out Smokestack Lightning, but I have it on
Tape instead of CD, so it's kinda a pain, but I'll try anyway.  It'll
be fun.
 
                                                          Nothingman

  -Spoonman!  (duh nun nun nun nun nuh) Come together with your hands...

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Here kitty, kitty.


MJ>I have a new topic for conversation:

MJ> If you tied a piece of toast to a cat's back(butter side up) and dropped 
MJ>that cat from a moderate height, what would happen?


MJ>                                Matthew.

MJ>  "Well I'll be, he's more punk than me" NOFX

The cat would splat, and the birds would get eaten by the really big
rats trying to get to the bread.
 
                                                                
Nothingman
 
  -And then I'll drop my hampster on it.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

TO>Not to prolong a non sg thread, but.....
TO>If you did that, the toast would fall under the belly of the cat in 
TO>midfall and would therefore hit the ground approximately a millisecond 
TO>after the cat's claws.  Then the cat would proceed to lick itself and 
TO>become so annoyed with it's new toast apparel that it would seek and 
TO>assasinate the ones who performed the tying of the toast and the 
TO>dropping.  So, don't harm cat's.  They're smart.  -j

But if you tied a dog to a car, and drug it for miles, the dog would
realize that it hurts, and would probably die.  If you did this to a
cat, that cat wouldn't die, even though it hurt.  And then you can do
it again tomorrow.
 
                                                       Nothingman
 
   -I think I'd better go to bed before I reply to anything again.

------------------------------

From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick)
Subject: God Save The Queen, yeah right.

Hey, nothing like starting the day with some nationalist shite, is there
 Nicholas Holland.  "Britpop is an attitude, not a style, and it is still
 just as good if not better than Seattle."  I've obviously asserted that
 you've heard "every" band that's ever come out of both Britain and
 Seattle, quite a lot I'm sure, but you've "obviously" managed it.
 What's Britpop anyway?  And why are you comparing places?  Do you having
 nothing better to do?  For fuck's sake listen to the music, like it or
 dislike it.  Don't categorise it, it's that simple.

Oh, Eric G. Lanning, what about the Charlatans?

The "Times of Trouble" and "Footsteps" riff, as far as I know it, was
 written by Stone Gossard.  I'm also led to belive that "Footsteps" came
 first, and was later used on the TOTD album with new words written by
 Chris.  I don't think anybody "ripped" anyone off, as the songs, other
 than the riff, are somewhat different, and I guess it's Stone's riff to
 do as he pleases with it.  Apart from that two very good songs came of
 it, so I couldn't care less.

And also ClownWithBazooka, The Prodigy sampled Nirvana's "Very Ape" for
 "Voodoo People".  That is why it is similar.

------------------------------

From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington)
Subject: Eye--SG Import

Sorry, I can't remember who posted the message asking for information on 
eye.  I recently bought it and posted it to the list about a week ago.  I've 
deleted my message, so I hope you can find it on the archives.  Otherwise, 
e-mail me, and I'll rewrite it.
                                                                -Matt


------------------------------

From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington)
Subject: Re: Prolonging threads

If you're talking about "Footsteps" (which I think you are), it also bears a 
starking similarity to the beginning of "Spaceboy" by Smashing Pumpkins.

>
>
>On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote:
>> 
>> > 
>> > >>Come on guys, can someone think of something else to discuss for a 
while??
>> > >>Like, can anyone come up with a portion of a song that sounds very 
much like
>> > >>a portion of another song by another band??  My example - Very Ape by
>> > >>Nirvana and Voodoo People by The Prodigy.  The very beginning of 
these two
>> > >>songs (two songs that are just so different, in fact) sound extremely
>> > >>eeringly alike to me...............
>> 
>> 
>> If anyone has the cd maxi single for jeremy by PJ, the second song on 
>> there sounds exactly like "Times of Trouble" by TOTD.  I mean exactly 
>> (underline exactly)
>> 
>> 		Curt
>> 
>That song has the exact same music as The Temple of the Dog song Times of 
>troubel it just has different words.  PJ just used the riff and added 
>their own words.
>
>		Bryan	
>
>


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From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Times of Trouble

I'm too lazy to go upstairs to read my TOTD CD but, if I'm recalling it 
right, Stone Gossard wrote the music for Times of Trouble and Chris did 
the lyrics. When PJ was looking for someone to sing for them Stone 
Gossard sent a tape with the music from Alive, Jeremy(?) and Times of 
Truble. When Eddie Vedder heard them, he wrote Footsteps with the music 
of TOT and he joined the band. 

						URB@NO

Matt Harrington wrote:
> 
> If you're talking about "Footsteps" (which I think you are), it also bears a
> starking similarity to the beginning of "Spaceboy" by Smashing Pumpkins.
> 
> >
> >
> >On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > >>Come on guys, can someone think of something else to discuss for a
> while??
> >> > >>Like, can anyone come up with a portion of a song that sounds very
> much like
> >> > >>a portion of another song by another band??  My example - Very Ape by
> >> > >>Nirvana and Voodoo People by The Prodigy.  The very beginning of
> these two
> >> > >>songs (two songs that are just so different, in fact) sound extremely
> >> > >>eeringly alike to me...............
> >>
> >>
> >> If anyone has the cd maxi single for jeremy by PJ, the second song on
> >> there sounds exactly like "Times of Trouble" by TOTD.  I mean exactly
> >> (underline exactly)
> >>
> >>              Curt
> >>
> >That song has the exact same music as The Temple of the Dog song Times of
> >troubel it just has different words.  PJ just used the riff and added
> >their own words.
> >
> >               Bryan
> >
> >

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From: schlepp <mjs7@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: Re: Featured Band name: Bread

> 
> AL>	I guess I'm becoming the most stupid of the list...
> 
> AL>					URB@NO
> 
> I think you have to pass me first.
                Nothingman


 Matthew = most stupidest.

------------------------------

From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Spoonman's difficult

Nothingman (rc@gcc.cc.md.us) wrote a lot today, including this:

> Spoonman isn't too hard

	It isn't too hard to play the riffs, but when trying to play all 
in a precise coordination with the drums and bass, THAT IS HARD!


						URB@NO

- - tonight I'm dreaming with lines like this one

------------------------------

From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" <billsbar@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Idea about Band Names

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, URBANO wrote:

> After thinking all night, I figured this out:
> 
> 	**********************************
> 	*     Send all the band names    *
> 	*      you can think of to:      *
> 	*				 *
> 	*    gstanway@mail.wincom.net    *
> 	*    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    *
> 	*                                *
> 	**********************************
> 
> 				URB@NO
> 
don't send all the band names you can think of to 
gstanway@mail.wincom.net. eric and i are still in need of a band name, 
and would appreciate the suggestions.

------------------------------

From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" <billsbar@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Prolonging threads

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote:
> 
> > 
> > >>Come on guys, can someone think of something else to discuss for a while??
> > >>Like, can anyone come up with a portion of a song that sounds very much like
> > >>a portion of another song by another band??  My example - Very Ape by
> > >>Nirvana and Voodoo People by The Prodigy.  The very beginning of these two
> > >>songs (two songs that are just so different, in fact) sound extremely
> > >>eeringly alike to me...............
> 
> 
> If anyone has the cd maxi single for jeremy by PJ, the second song on 
> there sounds exactly like "Times of Trouble" by TOTD.  I mean exactly 
> (underline exactly)
> 
> 		Curt
> 
i don't know what they call that song, but it is the same guitar line as 
times of trouble. TOT was written by gossard, and he just took the music 
and put eddie's wussy voice on it and ruined the whole song. they never 
play TOT around here (i've heard it once on the radio) but they play the 
PJ version, whatever it is called, probably about once a week.

------------------------------

From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Re: Idea about Band Names

Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote:

> don't send all the band names you can think of to
> gstanway@mail.wincom.net. eric and i are still in need of a band name,
> and would appreciate the suggestions.

	Ooops, sorry, I forgot  :^)

					URB@NO

------------------------------

Subject: Re: my wave
From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" <mattlaw@cogs.susx.ac.uk>

>
> TO>Thanks for the My Wave stuff.  I never could figure out how to make that
> TO>high pitched sound!!!      (But i did guess there was a high d note in
> TO>there somewhere!!  Actually, i was thinking C#, but for me that's too
> TO>close to complain.)   Yeah, send me Spoonman.  And is there anyway you
> TO>can figure out Smokestack Lightning?
> TO>And my heavy guage 3rd string DID NOT LIKE being tuned up to B.  I
> TO>thought i might, for the second time ever, break an Ernie Ball string!
> TO>But i didn't.   Well, thanx for the help.  -j
>
> This is what I do in my spare time.  Sit in front of the stereo and
> play Soundgarden (started on AC/DC because it was easy).
> Spoonman isn't too hard, but I've only got the main part.  Not that
> cool riff right after Chris sings "Spoonman!" but hey, it's free.

That cool bit goes:    ( _ = hammer-on/pull-off as appropriate )

D-------------------5_3------
A----------------------5_3-0-
D-5_3-5_3-5_3-0-5-3----------

The bass only part that goes over the spoon solo is different though, I can't
remember off-hand how that goes.
>
> Spoonman:
> Tune bottom string to D.  Using only the bottom three strings (same
> frets on all three strings), play:
> 10-12-12-12-10-12-7-5-7-3-0-0-3-3-3-0-0-0 (those three 3's at the end
> could be 5's...but it just doesn't sound right that way)
> It's not that hard, you just have to be quick on the draw.

I don't want to be to picky, bu I always thought it was more like:

10_12-12-12-12-X-10-12\7-5-7\3-0-0-3_5-5-5-0-0-0
                                           PM---
Which is slightly more tricky, but I think it sounds better :)

Also, the first bit of the solo that sounds really cool goes:

B-----------------------10----------------------------------------10---------10_12-13^1
G-----------------------12^1-10_12--------------------------------12^1-10_12-----------
D-----------------10_12------------10_12---------------------10_12---------------------
A----------------------------------------10--------------------------------------------
D-5_3-5_3-5_3-0-5----------------------------5_3-5_3-5_3-0-3---------------------------

(The two low bits are played oon a different guitar to the two high bits)
( have used ^1 to mean full bend (so the first and second bends are unison
bends)
> I always wanted to figure out Smokestack Lightning, but I have it on
> Tape instead of CD, so it's kinda a pain, but I'll try anyway.  It'll
> be fun.
>
>                                                           Nothingman
>
>   -Spoonman!  (duh nun nun nun nun nuh) Come together with your hands...
>

------------------------------

From: Pete Schlenker <pschlenk@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Prolonging threads

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote:
> 
> > 
> > >>Come on guys, can someone think of something else to discuss for a while??
> > >>Like, can anyone come up with a portion of a song that sounds very much like
> > >>a portion of another song by another band??  My example - Very Ape by
> > >>Nirvana and Voodoo People by The Prodigy.  The very beginning of these two
> > >>songs (two songs that are just so different, in fact) sound extremely
> > >>eeringly alike to me...............
> 
> 
> If anyone has the cd maxi single for jeremy by PJ, the second song on 
> there sounds exactly like "Times of Trouble" by TOTD.  I mean exactly 
> (underline exactly)
> 
> 		Curt
> 
He is NOT  kidding folks- the first time i heard it, i though it _was_ 
TOTD.  Stone Gossard ripped off "times of Trouble", and I know that stone 
was a memeber of TOTD.  I don't have the album in front of me, so I don't 
know if stone wrote "Times.." w/ Chris- if not, Stone sure ripped 'em off.

another PJ song- "Dirty Frank" sounds just like "give it away " by the 
Red Hot Chilli Peppers.

	Do I see a pattern?.....

------------------------------

From: Pete Schlenker <pschlenk@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, schlepp wrote:

>  
> I have a new topic for conversation:
> 
>  If you tied a piece of toast to a cat's back(butter side up) and dropped 
> that cat from a moderate height, what would happen?
> 
> 
>                                 Matthew.
> 
>   "Well I'll be, he's more punk than me" NOFX
> 
are you disturbed or something?  this is well, uh, interesting.  i like 
it, but well, uhh, it's kind of sick (funny...yet sick)

uhh, maybe SPLATTTTT!!!

Pete

"no  i don't have a soundgarden quote"

------------------------------

From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Stone Gossard's Rip-offs

Pete Schlenker wrote:

>another PJ song- "Dirty Frank" sounds just like "give it away " by the
>Red Hot Chilli Peppers.

	I have to disagree on that one. Dirty Frank isn't by far
	ripped off from give it away. PJ's Ten and RHCP's Blood
	Sugar Sex Magic appeared at the same time. Dirty Frank
	was a bonus track in the European Version of Ten. So
	there was no time for Stone Gossard to copy it, modify it
	and still include it in Ten. As for TOT Stone did the 
	Music. So there is no rip-off there either.

							URB@NO

------------------------------

From: Pete Schlenker <pschlenk@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

On 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:

> 
> MJ>I have a new topic for conversation:
> 
> MJ> If you tied a piece of toast to a cat's back(butter side up) and dropped 
> MJ>that cat from a moderate height, what would happen?
> 
> 
> MJ>                                Matthew.
> 
> MJ>  "Well I'll be, he's more punk than me" NOFX
> 
> The cat would splat, and the birds would get eaten by the really big
> rats trying to get to the bread.
>  
>                                                                 
> Nothingman
>  
>   -And then I'll drop my hampster on it.
> 
then your hampster would get it's ass kicked by a stray dog. (or wolf)

------------------------------

From: Pete Schlenker <pschlenk@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Stone Gossard's Rip-offs

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, URBANO wrote:

> Pete Schlenker wrote:
> 
> >another PJ song- "Dirty Frank" sounds just like "give it away " by the
> >Red Hot Chilli Peppers.
> 
> 	I have to disagree on that one. Dirty Frank isn't by far
> 	ripped off from give it away. PJ's Ten and RHCP's Blood
> 	Sugar Sex Magic appeared at the same time. Dirty Frank
> 	was a bonus track in the European Version of Ten. So
> 	there was no time for Stone Gossard to copy it, modify it
> 	and still include it in Ten. As for TOT Stone did the 
> 	Music. So there is no rip-off there either.
> 
> 							URB@NO
my mistake.  i just heard the song after i heard "give it away," and I 
noticed the similarity.  I thought that "dirty frank" was released after 
BSSM.  oops.

	I guess it' b/c i haven't really liked any PJ since Ten.  
Vitalogy will _never_ be bought be me, and i think that PJ is overrated.  
Ten is good, but the rest sorta suck (one of my friends here _loves_ PJ, 
and think that eddie vedder is the best vocalist ever.  whatever.)

pete

------------------------------

From: Greg Bensimon <greg@sfa.com>
Subject: Re: Times of Trouble


On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:

> If anyone has the cd maxi single for jeremy by PJ, the second song on 
> there sounds exactly like "Times of Trouble" by TOTD.  I mean exactly 
> (underline exactly)

You are exactly right.  The PJ song is called footsteps, and it is the
final piece in the Alive/Once/Footsteps "trilogy".  The music was
originally written by Stone Gossard sometime before TOTD came to be.
Gossard gave the music to Eddie Vedder and to CC, and each laid down
their own lyrics.  I thought it was kind of cool to hear how each of them
interpreted the same music.


Greg

    ******************************************
    ***           Sieze the day.           ***
    ***  Pull the trigger. Drop the blade. ***
    ***    And watch the rolling heads.    ***
    ******************************************
    ***            greg@sfa.com            ***
    ******************************************


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From: Greg Bensimon <greg@sfa.com>
Subject: Re: Band Name

How about this for a band name...


   FREE BEER


Immagine the implications.  "Tonight at Joe's Watering Hole -- FREE BEER!"
That ought to get them in the door :-)


Greg




------------------------------

From: Jennifer C Graham <jcgraham@hopper.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Completely unrelated to sg.

Brad, the band who does "Buttercup", is Stone Gossard's side project?
Jenn


On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, He Who Walks Between wrote:

> No one ever told me that the guy who used to drum for Malfunkshun (Andy 
> Wood's 1st band) is now drumming for Brad (Stone Gossard's side project)!!!
> That's pretty cool.  Now i have to go buy Brad's album.....
> Nah, i'll just ask for it for Christmas.  -j
> 
> 
> aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
> aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
> *****************************************************************************
> "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
> "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement
> 
> 

------------------------------

From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka)
Subject: RE: God Save The Queen, yeah right.


>And also ClownWithBazooka, The Prodigy sampled Nirvana's "Very Ape" for
> "Voodoo People".  That is why it is similar.
    Uhh... like I never said that, If I remember correctly I just said that
    Nirvana's opening riff on "smells like teen spirit sounds like a electric
    version of the opening acoustic riff of soundgarden's Mood For Trouble.
        Clown

------------------------------

Subject: Re: Idea about Band Names
From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson)

>Dan \Pop-tart\ Hearsch

>don't send all the band names - - -  eric and i are still in need of a band
name, 
>and would appreciate the suggestions.


Band With Out a Name
No Name (Seth - there use to be a restaurant in Boston by this name - great
place to go)
HOV (High Occupant Vehicle)
Sanctuary
Causality Quota
Access Denied
Revised Edition
Critical Condition
Glacier Edge
Bar Code Scan
Instant Gratification
Lab Rat
Embalmer's Holiday
Sick Puppy
Karoshi (Death from Overwork)
Mind Scribbles
Interrupted Interlude
Unprotected Noise
Rupture Soul
Internal Suicide
Entrapments
Three Legged Trolley 

Jamie


------------------------------

From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka)
Subject:  re: various topics esp : Britpop is dead


> singles, nothing has come out of Seattle since last christmas.
>>Uh, so i guess Alice in Chains' new album doesn't count and neither does
>>the Presidents of The United States of America's album, huh?
>>And to be really picky, what about Stone Gossard's side project Brad's album?
>>-j
    Or how about Mad Seasons Album? IT kicked some serious ass, and didn't
    Mud Honey come out with a new one? I don't know about this guy Phillip, I
    think he thinks seattle=pearljam
        Clown


>aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
>aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
>*****************************************************************************
>"I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
>"Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement


------------------------------

From: Milkman <mdevlin@ic.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Re: Alive

  
>                                                         Nothingman
>  
>   -What the hell is Kyle Petty about anyway?
 
Call me crazy, but I think it MIGHT be about Kyle Petty (you know, 
Richard's son).  Just my thoughts on the matter.

------------------------------

From: ansel@morgan.com
Subject: Re: PJ's Dirty Frank

     FYI:  Eddie Vedder explained that the funk influenced 'Dirty 
     Frank' was a direct result of touring with the Red Hot Chili 
     Peppers (the song was recorded on the road during the tour). 
     The lyrics are about PJ's bus driver.
     
     Vikki


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________

     
>another PJ song- "Dirty Frank" sounds just like "give it away " by the 
>Red Hot Chilli Peppers.

------------------------------

From: Michael J Sharkey <mjs@christa.unh.edu>
Subject: beyond the wheel

	Does anyone have the lyrics and or tab to Beyond the Wheel?  If 
so could you kindly send it my way?
	Chris Cornell is gay, I slept with him and Richard Simmons last 
night and my orifices will never be the same again.
	Is Motorvision worth buying?  I heard it was good, but on my 
limited budget it had better be really good.

------------------------------

From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

"You can't grow feathers in the rain"?????  
What the hell does that mean?

		Curt

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, mailman wrote:

> I meant grow, not drow.  Listen to it.  It's definitely not wear.  I'm 
> pretty sure it's grow.
> 
> >>>------------------------------->
>  Geoff Kleemola
>  gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca
>  U of Winnipeg Psychology student
>  http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol
> <-------------------------------<<<
> 
> On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, He Who Walks Between wrote:
> 
> > In the seasons lyrics where o where did yall get the word "drow"?
> > Never heard it before.  i always thought that he says "But you can't wear 
> > feathers in the rain".  But that's just me.  -j
> > 
> > aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
> > aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
> > *****************************************************************************
> > "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
> > "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement
> > 
> > 
> 

------------------------------

From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

A, I heard all these little quips about two years ago, and B,
this exactly the kind of shit everyone's saying we don't need.
I don't mean to sound like such an asshole, but you're kind of throwing 
gas on the fire instead of helping.

			Curt

On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, schlepp wrote:

> 
> I have a new topic for conversation:
> 
>  If you tied a piece of toast to a cat's back(butter side up) and dropped 
> that cat from a moderate height, what would happen?
> 
> 
>                                 Matthew.
> 
>   "Well I'll be, he's more punk than me" NOFX
> 

------------------------------

From: Kelly Christa Jones <kcj2@dana.ucc.nau.edu>
Subject: Re: sorry, it's not re: SG

Ugh.  Stone Temple Pilots are TERRIBLE!  They are a total "Seattle" band 
knockoff.  Totally unoriginal.  The first time I heard them I thought 
"wow, Pearl Jam has a new song out".
 
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, Alison Mugford wrote:

> On Thurs. Dec.7 Jennifer wrote that one of the things that she hates is
> Stone Temple Pilots.
> I have to ask - how, How, HOW can you hate STP???????? They're incredible, I
> love them. I wear my STP hat almost every day. I saw them open for the
> Stones in Toronto two summers ago and they kicked ass!!! I know this is a SG
> list and all, but will somebody please, PLEASE join me in worshipping Scott
> and the boys, just once? 
> (Although I did hear that they all sleep together every night...)
> (That was a joke, I'm kidding. Really.)
> Alie.
> 
> *Pick a song and sing a yellow nectarine* - STP
> *Words you say never seem to live up to the ones inside your head*
> 
> 

------------------------------

From: "B. Kinser" <bkinser@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu>
Subject: Spoonman (remix)

I was prowling the bins at my local used record store and found a 
whole shitload of Soundgarden promo items.
They had:Spoonman-2 tracks (album and radio edit)
         Fell on...(two tracks Album and video version) this had a 
                   diferent cover than I'd seen before plus a big sticker
                   om the front saying "this CD contains a different
                   version than the album."
         Black Hole Sun-3 tracks(BHS, Beyond the Wheel-live, and
                        Spoonman-Remix.

the remix of Spoonman is incredible.  It doesn't retain hardly any of 
the song structure of the original, plus it has samples of the Rusty Cage
riff!

If you can find this, grab it.

BK



------------------------------

From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: beyond the wheel

Motorvision is fucking cool, really worth buying.  Here's my take on 
Beyond the Wheel:

Far beyond the road
Between your house and home,
There is a churing storm
(what goes here??)

Tiny baby cries,
little tiny pawn,
In the path again,
Tiny baby crawls...

Mother, who's your man?
Is he doing what he said?
To make your proper home(?)
(don't know)
Loved his little boys,
Shows them how to kill,
to save his precious stone (soul?)

Far beyond the wheel,
We'll (    ) your life around
We're churning flesh and blood,
deep into the ground.

Okay, theres a few holes, but i tried!

Curt
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Michael J Sharkey wrote:

> 	Does anyone have the lyrics and or tab to Beyond the Wheel?  If 
> so could you kindly send it my way?
> 	Chris Cornell is gay, I slept with him and Richard Simmons last 
> night and my orifices will never be the same again.
> 	Is Motorvision worth buying?  I heard it was good, but on my 
> limited budget it had better be really good.
> 


------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Featured Band name: Bread

NM>Buddy I think your a pin head, you are to fuckin' pathetic, get a life and
NM>take me off this fuckin' mailing list.

This guy's just asking for a good flame.  But I'm too lazy and fuckin'
pathetic, so I'm not gonna do it.  
 
                                                                    
Nothingman
 
  -FUCKIN' ASS MUNCH!!

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Spoonman's difficult

AL>Nothingman (rc@gcc.cc.md.us) wrote a lot today, including this:

AL>> Spoonman isn't too hard

AL>	It isn't too hard to play the riffs, but when trying to play all 
AL>in a precise coordination with the drums and bass, THAT IS HARD!


AL>						URB@NO

AL>- tonight I'm dreaming with lines like this one

Shouldn't be any harder than playing in precise coordination with a 55
piece marching band, not to mention marching in precise coordination
along with everyone else, the music, and the drum major.  But then
again, I'm much better with the trumpet than I am with the guitar.
 
                                                                   
Nothingman
 
  -Too bad I can't find any drummers and bass players around here.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: my wave

MA>That cool bit goes:    ( _ = hammer-on/pull-off as appropriate )

MA>D-------------------5_3------
MA>A----------------------5_3-0-
MA>D-5_3-5_3-5_3-0-5-3----------

MA>The bass only part that goes over the spoon solo is different though, I can'
MA>remember off-hand how that goes.

MA>I don't want to be to picky, bu I always thought it was more like:

MA>10_12-12-12-12-X-10-12\7-5-7\3-0-0-3_5-5-5-0-0-0
MA>                                           PM---
MA>Which is slightly more tricky, but I think it sounds better :)

I thought those at the end might be 5 instead of three, but I wasn't
sure.  Thanks.

MA>Also, the first bit of the solo that sounds really cool goes:

MA>B-----------------------10----------------------------------------10--------
MA>G-----------------------12^1-10_12--------------------------------12^1-10_12
MA>D-----------------10_12------------10_12---------------------10_12----------
MA>A----------------------------------------10---------------------------------
MA>D-5_3-5_3-5_3-0-5----------------------------5_3-5_3-5_3-0-3----------------

MA>(The two low bits are played oon a different guitar to the two high bits)
MA>( have used ^1 to mean full bend (so the first and second bends are unison
MA>bends)

Wow, I'm impressed.  I think you should take over the guitar stuff on
here.  Did you get that from the music, or by ear?  I can't afford
music, so I have to go by ear.  But if you can play it all good, you're
still the man.
 
                                                                       
   Nothingman
 
  -I'm only faking when I get it right, when I get it right.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Idea about Band Names

BI>don't send all the band names you can think of to 
BI>gstanway@mail.wincom.net. eric and i are still in need of a band name, 
BI>and would appreciate the suggestions.

Uh-oh.  Me again.

Raw Durges
Fluid Brains
Right Foot
Black Tomorrow
Band Aids (these could be your helpers)
The Rubber Band
Wide Ass
Stationwagon
Stereo Lemons
Clictic Acid
Kombat
 
           Nothingman
 
  -I could go on for days...

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.




PS>On 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:

PS>> 
PS>> MJ>I have a new topic for conversation:
PS>> 
PS>> MJ> If you tied a piece of toast to a cat's back(butter side up) and dropp
PS>> MJ>that cat from a moderate height, what would happen?
PS>> 
PS>> 
PS>> MJ>                                Matthew.
PS>> 
PS>> MJ>  "Well I'll be, he's more punk than me" NOFX
PS>> 
PS>> The cat would splat, and the birds would get eaten by the really big
PS>> rats trying to get to the bread.
PS>>  
PS>>                                                                 
PS>> Nothingman
PS>>  
PS>>   -And then I'll drop my hampster on it.
PS>> 
PS>then your hampster would get it's ass kicked by a stray dog. (or wolf)

No, I think the hampster would be dead from the fall.  Hampsters have
weak hearts you know.
 
                                                             Nothingman
 
  -But those wolves will be free to eat him.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Alive

MD>  
MD>>                                                         Nothingman
MD>>  
MD>>   -What the hell is Kyle Petty about anyway?
MD> 
MD>Call me crazy, but I think it MIGHT be about Kyle Petty (you know, 
MD>Richard's son).  Just my thoughts on the matter.

Well, DUH!  But why would Chris write a song about him?  Is he a racing
fan, or what?
 
                                                        Nothingman

  -Sometimes....I just don't get it.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Britpop + Seattle scenes

NB>many people in Britain are concerned (perhaps wrongly) Seattle died with 
NB>Curt Cobain when he blew his brains out.

I think people should just let the guy die.  He' more alive now than
he's ever been.  And people idolize the man for it,  "Wow, he killed
himself, let's worship him."  I know plenty of people around me who
hated his music before he shot himself, and now they have every album,
and claim to love it to death.  Personally, I like In Utero and Bleach.
 

                                                                  
Nothingman
 
  -But don't get me compairing music.  I don't like to.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

CS>"You can't grow feathers in the rain"?????  
CS>What the hell does that mean?

CS>		Curt

It means, if you're a chicken with no feathers, and it's raining,
you're screwed.
 
                                                              Nothingman
 
  -Kinda like Foghorn Leghorn after that dog gets ahold of him.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

AN>     Chris does the vocals on 'Exit Stonehenge'.  I have a theory 
AN>     about this song.  Anyone want to help me prove it?  Well, we 
AN>     know that SG fancy doing Spinal Tap cover tunes and I 
AN>     noticed that there is a ST song called 'Stonehenge'.  Does 
AN>     anyone know what this ST song sounds like or what its about? 
AN>     Could SG's 'Exit Stonehenge' be derived from the ST tune, 
AN>     perhaps?  Hmm.
AN>     
AN>     Vikki

Well, I didn't see any similarities in the two songs.  But at the end
of Stonehenge by Spinal Tap, the singer says, "What happened to the
little people of Stonehenge?  And what would they say to us, if they
were here now?"  Or something like that.  Anyway, maybe they decided to
answer that question.  If they were there, they'd say, "EXIT
STONEHENGE! EXIT STONEHENGE!"  But that doesn't explain about the penis
and feet part.
 
                                                              
Nothingman
 
   -Maybe they were just fat little men in Stonehenge.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Newbie - somms mailing list

ER>Tune the low E down to a B.

ER>Eric

Up to B, or down to B?
 
               Nothingman
   
  -And could you give some tabs, please?  It's a little harder than I
thought.

------------------------------

From: rc@gcc.cc.md.us
Subject: Re: Newbie - somms mailing list

MA>Tuning = BADGBE (from bottom), I can't remember off-hand anything except the
MA>intro and the riff you already know, though. Sorry :)

MA>		Matt

I don't know the riff...help!  The intro wherethe two guitars echjo is
the part I don't really want.  The part right after that is what I
want.  I would love to be able to play it, although I don't think I can
play that fast that clean.
 
                                                              
Nothingman
 
  -maybe I need a huge, bitchin' beard.

------------------------------

From: Jennifer C Graham <jcgraham@hopper.unh.edu>
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

The negative atmosphere created by the rain stops him from flying in his 
dreams.  By flying I mean succeeding.  He can't feel what he really wants 
to feel.
Just my interpretation.  -Jenn

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:

> "You can't grow feathers in the rain"?????  
> What the hell does that mean?
> 
> 		Curt
> 
> On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, mailman wrote:
> 
> > I meant grow, not drow.  Listen to it.  It's definitely not wear.  I'm 
> > pretty sure it's grow.
> > 
> > >>>------------------------------->
> >  Geoff Kleemola
> >  gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca
> >  U of Winnipeg Psychology student
> >  http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol
> > <-------------------------------<<<
> > 
> > On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, He Who Walks Between wrote:
> > 
> > > In the seasons lyrics where o where did yall get the word "drow"?
> > > Never heard it before.  i always thought that he says "But you can't wear 
> > > feathers in the rain".  But that's just me.  -j
> > > 
> > > aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
> > > aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
> > > *****************************************************************************
> > > "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
> > > "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

------------------------------

From: mailman <gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

Hey I didn't write it.  I don't know what it means.  I just listened to 
it again, and it DEFINITELY sounds lie "you can't grow feathers in the 
rain", but I was just thinking, it would make sense if said "you can't 
throw feathers in the wind",  or even "You can't throw feathers in the 
rain" or "you can't grow marijuana in this house young man!".  Anybody 
else have any ideas?

>>>------------------------------->
 Geoff Kleemola
 gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca
 U of Winnipeg Psychology student
 http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol
<-------------------------------<<<

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:

> "You can't grow feathers in the rain"?????  
> What the hell does that mean?
> 
> 		Curt
> 
> On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, mailman wrote:
> 
> > I meant grow, not drow.  Listen to it.  It's definitely not wear.  I'm 
> > pretty sure it's grow.
> > 
> > >>>------------------------------->
> >  Geoff Kleemola
> >  gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca
> >  U of Winnipeg Psychology student
> >  http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol
> > <-------------------------------<<<
> > 
> > On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, He Who Walks Between wrote:
> > 
> > > In the seasons lyrics where o where did yall get the word "drow"?
> > > Never heard it before.  i always thought that he says "But you can't wear 
> > > feathers in the rain".  But that's just me.  -j
> > > 
> > > aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between"      aka The Equalist
> > > aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own).  Boom biddy bye bye!
> > > *****************************************************************************
> > > "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden
> > > "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

------------------------------

From: mailman <gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: Re: beyond the wheel

Motorvision is worth the money.  Go out and buy it now.  Chris is jumping 
around like a psycho on amphetamine (or perhaps codeine)  The sound is 
really good, they play most of the songs from BMF plus Little Joe, and 
the version of Mind Riot is incredible.  I haven't listened to that song 
the same way since.

>>>------------------------------->
 Geoff Kleemola
 gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca
 U of Winnipeg Psychology student
 http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol
<-------------------------------<<<

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Michael J Sharkey wrote:

> 	Does anyone have the lyrics and or tab to Beyond the Wheel?  If 
> so could you kindly send it my way?
> 	Chris Cornell is gay, I slept with him and Richard Simmons last 
> night and my orifices will never be the same again.
> 	Is Motorvision worth buying?  I heard it was good, but on my 
> limited budget it had better be really good.
> 

------------------------------

From: ADAM PRITCHARD <a.pritchard@lancaster.ac.uk>
Subject: bits n bobs, tits n knobs

On my own, here I go....

For all those Therapy? fans - yeah they're good. I used to dislike them
for some reason, but when I simply started asking myself why, I began
giving them credit.  Skunk Anansie are pretty cool - she was ace at the
Reading Festival (hahahaha).  By the way, the Wildhearts are splitting
up....

Tell you what - I've heard FOUR Oasis songs where their openings sound
ALOT like others.  Can't remeber which ones but they are similar to
Metallica, The carpenters, john Lennon and SOUNDGARDEN.  Schucks, guys!!
And that PJ song - if it's Footsteps you're talking about then, I agree
with you re: Temple of The Dog.  Big time.

If you wanna know the Seasons lyrics I'll tell you what I can remember. 
I have got the right lyrics somewhere, but cos I love the song so much,
i can remember some specifically:
It's:

Summer nights and long worn days.....

And I wanna fly above the storm
But you can't grow feathers in the rain...

Sand and feathers for my head..

There was another but I cannae remember which bit now.  Someday I'll
post the whole song.

By the way - I love the pure aggression of Hands All Over - the moment I
heard it I thought "Now this is a damn good song" and I can never do
that with anything straight away.

I reckon Chris is pretty tall - he looked it at Reading.  He's thin as
well so that helps.  Ben is.  ( I skipped work to go to the festival and
it was well worth it - one of the best experiences of my life which is
why I'll be there again this year)

Ciao for now
utah

- -- Cry if you want to cry
   If it helps you see
   If it clears your eyes

   Hate if you wanna hate
   If it makes you brave
   If it keeps you safe  --




------------------------------

From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington)
Subject: Re: STP

I also like STP, in fact I saw them two summers ago.  However, they better 
not put out another album like Purple or it's all over.  Another Core would 
be nice though.  Too bad either way they're not going to match up to 
Soundgarden.
                                                        -Matt

>I agree with Alison Mugford when she says that the Stone Temple Pilots are 
great.  
>They have produced two of my favourite songs of all time:
>		Plush
>		Interstate Love Song
>The video for ILS was cool as well.
>I must admit though that I would not go so far as to worship them.
>Loadsa Luck Nik!
>
>
>
>


------------------------------

From: ansel@morgan.com
Subject: Seasons Lyrics

     You can't grow feathers (fly, succeed, blossom, mature) in 
     the rain (a bad situation).
     
     IMHO, Vikki
     
     


______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________

Hey I didn't write it.  I don't know what it means.

 Geoff Kleemola

------------------------------

From: mailman <gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: Re: Spoonman (remix)

Yeah, that Spoonman Remix IS incredible.  I have it on the b-side of the 
My Wave single.  (also has Birth Ritual (original demo version, and my 
wave live)  It also has samples from FOPP and other samples.  There is a 
sample of a girl saying "do you have room to put this in, this is a gift 
for you from all of us"  "come out to the garden" and  a girl 
screaming.  Definitely do not pass up an oppurtunity to pick up a copy of 
this sing.

>>>------------------------------->
 Geoff Kleemola
 gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca
 U of Winnipeg Psychology student
 http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol
<-------------------------------<<<


------------------------------

From: "Jennifer L. York" <jyork@usibr01.usi.edu>
Subject: Re: Band Name

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Greg Bensimon wrote:

> How about this for a band name...
> 
> 
>    FREE BEER
_________________________________________________________________________-
     too late, there already is a free beer. I saw it on a sign at a club 
in Lousiville.
______________________________________________________________________> > 
> Immagine the implications.  "Tonight at Joe's Watering Hole -- FREE BEER!"
> That ought to get them in the door :-)
> 
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> 
> 

------------------------------

From: "Bryan R. Herr" <brh01204@marauder.millersv.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

  If you tried to tie a dog to yhe back of a car a real dog would bite 
your damn hand off.  I heard that it's fun to stick firecrackers in a 
cat's butt.  (never did it just heard it's pretty neat.)

					Bryan

On 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:

> TO>Not to prolong a non sg thread, but.....
> TO>If you did that, the toast would fall under the belly of the cat in 
> TO>midfall and would therefore hit the ground approximately a millisecond 
> TO>after the cat's claws.  Then the cat would proceed to lick itself and 
> TO>become so annoyed with it's new toast apparel that it would seek and 
> TO>assasinate the ones who performed the tying of the toast and the 
> TO>dropping.  So, don't harm cat's.  They're smart.  -j
> 
> But if you tied a dog to a car, and drug it for miles, the dog would
> realize that it hurts, and would probably die.  If you did this to a
> cat, that cat wouldn't die, even though it hurt.  And then you can do
> it again tomorrow.
>  
>                                                        Nothingman
>  
>    -I think I'd better go to bed before I reply to anything again.
> 

------------------------------

From: "Jennifer L. York" <jyork@usibr01.usi.edu>
Subject: Re: Important message from the President


On 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:

> JY>You know what I really like? Any song that begins with Chris singing 
> JY>along or the same note as the guitar (Loud Love). He is incredible. Okay 
> JY>Im done. 
> 
> Loud Love kicks ass.  i love to play my guitar along with that song. 
> And Rusty Cage just makes me wanna get up and jump around.
> The best head bobbing song has to be Kyle Petty.  Listen to it...makes
> me wish I had hydralics in my neck.
____________________________________________________________________________

Now I !have! to hear it. I haven't heard that or the song on the other 
single (Motorcycle loop?) . Damn I'm broke. jennifer>  
>                                                           
>  
>   -Hundred miles of chicken wire something something something...
> 				what?

------------------------------

From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Oasis=glamband


I just had to write and comment on the Britpop/Oasis talk thats
been going on.

I just think Oasis sucks.  They do have that one good song that goes
"You need to be yourself, you can't be no one else"
but they ruin all there potentially good songs w/ their videos.  I'm one
of those people that can't listen to a song the same way after I've seen
the video for it.  That guy from Oasis thinks he's the shit and it's really
annoying to watch the videos.  He's always making that powty face like he
doesn't want to make millions of his pop songs.

		Curt
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, ADAM PRITCHARD wrote:

> On my own, here I go....
> 
> For all those Therapy? fans - yeah they're good. I used to dislike them
> for some reason, but when I simply started asking myself why, I began
> giving them credit.  Skunk Anansie are pretty cool - she was ace at the
> Reading Festival (hahahaha).  By the way, the Wildhearts are splitting
> up....
> 
> Tell you what - I've heard FOUR Oasis songs where their openings sound
> ALOT like others.  Can't remeber which ones but they are similar to
> Metallica, The carpenters, john Lennon and SOUNDGARDEN.  Schucks, guys!!
> And that PJ song - if it's Footsteps you're talking about then, I agree
> with you re: Temple of The Dog.  Big time.
> 
> If you wanna know the Seasons lyrics I'll tell you what I can remember. 
> I have got the right lyrics somewhere, but cos I love the song so much,
> i can remember some specifically:
> It's:
> 
> Summer nights and long worn days.....
> 
> And I wanna fly above the storm
> But you can't grow feathers in the rain...
> 
> Sand and feathers for my head..
> 
> There was another but I cannae remember which bit now.  Someday I'll
> post the whole song.
> 
> By the way - I love the pure aggression of Hands All Over - the moment I
> heard it I thought "Now this is a damn good song" and I can never do
> that with anything straight away.
> 
> I reckon Chris is pretty tall - he looked it at Reading.  He's thin as
> well so that helps.  Ben is.  ( I skipped work to go to the festival and
> it was well worth it - one of the best experiences of my life which is
> why I'll be there again this year)
> 
> Ciao for now
> utah
> 
> -- Cry if you want to cry
>    If it helps you see
>    If it clears your eyes
> 
>    Hate if you wanna hate
>    If it makes you brave
>    If it keeps you safe  --
> 
> 
> 
> 

------------------------------

From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

While we're on the subject of morbid things you can do to cats,
I know these two guys that used to burry cats w/ just their heads
sticking out and run over them w/ a lawn mower.

I know these two other guys that tried to flush a cat down a 
toilet, and when that didn't work, they threw firecrackers in it
and shut the lid.

I knew a bunch of guys that put a cat in a microwave for about 7 seconds.

P.S. These are all true, I witnessed the last two, don't try this at home.

Curt
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:

>   If you tried to tie a dog to yhe back of a car a real dog would bite 
> your damn hand off.  I heard that it's fun to stick firecrackers in a 
> cat's butt.  (never did it just heard it's pretty neat.)
> 
> 					Bryan
> 


------------------------------

From: "Jennifer L. York" <jyork@usibr01.usi.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.


On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:

> 
> While we're on the subject of morbid things you can do to cats,
> I know these two guys that used to burry cats w/ just their heads
> sticking out and run over them w/ a lawn mower.
> 
> I know these two other guys that tried to flush a cat down a 
> toilet, and when that didn't work, they threw firecrackers in it
> and shut the lid.
> 
> I knew a bunch of guys that put a cat in a microwave for about 7 seconds.

___________________________________________________________________________
  I'm going to be sick. Is there anything people won't do to an animal?
  
____________________________________________________________________________



> P.S. These are all true, I witnessed the last two, don't try this at home.
> 
> Curt
> On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:
> 
> >   If you tried to tie a dog to yhe back of a car a real dog would bite 
> > your damn hand off.  I heard that it's fun to stick firecrackers in a 
> > cat's butt.  (never did it just heard it's pretty neat.)
> > 
> > 					Bryan
> > 
> 
> 

------------------------------

From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

I guess I should have pointed out that I did not take part in any of 
these activities personally, even though I was there.  Needless to say 
the people performing these acts were fucking nuts and would have laughed
if I'd protested.  I think I just left both times.

Curt

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Jennifer L. York wrote:

> 
> 
> On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:
> 
> > 
> > While we're on the subject of morbid things you can do to cats,
> > I know these two guys that used to burry cats w/ just their heads
> > sticking out and run over them w/ a lawn mower.
> > 
> > I know these two other guys that tried to flush a cat down a 
> > toilet, and when that didn't work, they threw firecrackers in it
> > and shut the lid.
> > 
> > I knew a bunch of guys that put a cat in a microwave for about 7 seconds.
> 
> ___________________________________________________________________________
>   I'm going to be sick. Is there anything people won't do to an animal?
>   
> ____________________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > P.S. These are all true, I witnessed the last two, don't try this at home.
> > 
> > Curt
> > On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:
> > 
> > >   If you tried to tie a dog to yhe back of a car a real dog would bite 
> > > your damn hand off.  I heard that it's fun to stick firecrackers in a 
> > > cat's butt.  (never did it just heard it's pretty neat.)
> > > 
> > > 					Bryan
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 

------------------------------

From: curtis wayne swedran <cswedran@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Black Hole ROM

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Steven Russell Jr. wrote:

> http://hotwired.com/music/95/49/soundgar.html 
> 
> ...this seems to be the general opinion.  
> 
> Greed...music industry?  never!
> 
> steven
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>            Music-oriented multimedia used to be dominated by aging
>             rockers trying to seem hip (see David Bowie, Todd
>       Rundgren), but younger bands are now getting into the act by
>       including multimedia content on discs that can be played in
>       regular CD players. Unfortunately, most CD-Pluses and
>       Enhanced CDs look like another lame attempt by record
>       companies to charge more for discs by digitizing press material.
>       Soundgarden's disappointing Enhanced CD is a perfect example;
>       whatever credibility the band lost by becoming a fixture on
>       MTV, this isn't the way to win it back. 



> 
>       Musically, Alive in the Superunknown doesn't offer any big
>       surprises, except maybe for "She Likes Surprises," which until
>       now had only been released overseas. The disc includes just three
>     
"She Likes Surprises" was released on March 9th of 94 on the vinyl 
version of SU.

Curt

  other audio tracks, and one of them is the same old album
>       version of "Superunknown." "Like Suicide" [432k .aiff] is
>       somewhat revived in an acoustic take, but only the casual
>       jamming intro to the video version of "Fell on Black Days "
>       [324k .aiff] separates it from the album version. 
> 
>       Alive in the Superunknown does have a few things going for it:
>       the virtual world in the multimedia portion of the disc is kind of
>       eerie - it includes surprisingly high-quality full-screen video clips
>       for "The Day I Tried to Live," "Black Hole Sun," and "Fell on
>       Black Days." Another highlight is an animated joy ride down a
>       swerving staircase. 
> 
>       There are far more negatives. One of the two discs is filled with
>       Corel CD-ROM drivers, a clear sign that installation hell awaits.
>       Even with the drivers, the disc never played on my 486DX2/66,
>       and it took about 15 minutes to get it to work on the latest
>       Power Macintosh. 
> 
>       And for what? In a video clip of the band discussing its song
>       writing process, the comments occasionally venture into Spinal
>       Tap territory (We're a very musical band ... we want to be even
>       more diverse....). Then there's a massive collection of band
>       photos - with highlights that include Chris Cornell picking his
>       nose. All this - and several computer-animated videos for
>       "Superunknown" - hardly justifies the price of admission, which
>       is a few dollars more than a full-length audio CD. Alive makes a
>       nice memento for adoring fans, but it's really just another
>       example of music industry greed.
> 
>       By Mark Glaser
> 

------------------------------

From: nicholas holland <nbholl@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: Britpop + Seattle scenes

Of the three albums that He Who Walks Between mentions only the Alice
In Chains album has had even a small amount of advertising in Britain.
The new stuff out of Seattle just does not hit the British audience
where it wants to be hit.  As far as many people in Britain are
concerned (perhaps wrongly) Seattle died with Curt Cobain when he blew
his brains out.  Loadsa Luck Nik




------------------------------

From: nicholas holland <nbholl@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: STP

I agree with Alison Mugford when she says that the Stone Temple Pilots
are great.  They have produced two of my favourite songs of all time:
		Plush
		Interstate Love Song 
The video for ILS was cool as well.  I must admit though that I would
not go so far as to worship them.  Loadsa Luck Nik!




------------------------------

From: mailman <gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca>
Subject: Temper Tantrums from little babies who need their mommies to burp them
 and clean shit out of their little diapers...

It's just best to ignore people like that.  His use of grammar is 
pathetic!  (your instead of you're; to instead of too)  He can't express 
himself properly, so he has to use use expletives.  Ignore him, you are cool 
Nothingman.  You are at least a valuable contributor to this list.  Lots  
don't say anthing unless they want to jump all over somebody, and swear 
at them and insult them.   It's good to hear he wants off the list.  We 
can do without him.  Anybody with me on this?

>>>------------------------------->
 Geoff Kleemola
 gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca
 U of Winnipeg Psychology student
 http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol
<-------------------------------<<<

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:

> NM>Buddy I think your a pin head, you are to fuckin' pathetic, get a life and
> NM>take me off this fuckin' mailing list.
> 
> This guy's just asking for a good flame.  But I'm too lazy and fuckin'
> pathetic, so I'm not gonna do it.  
>  
>                                                                     
> Nothingman
>  
>   -FUCKIN' ASS MUNCH!!
> 

------------------------------

From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington)
Subject: Re: Britpop + Seattle scenes

Personally, I think In Utero is one of the best albums I've ever listened 
to.  The lyrics are absolutely incredible.  Got me through some tough times 
last year.  Oh, and by the way, this is not a flame, because your posts are 
awesome, but Nothingman, you've got way too much time on your hands to be 
posting THAT much.  Hey, I'm jealous.  I wish I had time to post like that.
                                -Matt

>NB>many people in Britain are concerned (perhaps wrongly) Seattle died with 
>NB>Curt Cobain when he blew his brains out.
>
>I think people should just let the guy die.  He' more alive now than
>he's ever been.  And people idolize the man for it,  "Wow, he killed
>himself, let's worship him."  I know plenty of people around me who
>hated his music before he shot himself, and now they have every album,
>and claim to love it to death.  Personally, I like In Utero and Bleach.
> 
>
>                                                                  
>Nothingman
> 
>  -But don't get me compairing music.  I don't like to.
>
>


------------------------------

From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Black Hole ROM URL

The correct URL to Black Hole ROM is:

	http://www.hotwired.com/music/95/49/soundgar.html

Steven forgot the WWW  :^)

					URB@NO

 ______________________________________________________________
 |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia.   |
 |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]|
 |____________________________________________________________|
 |____________  Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________|
       	      \__________________________/

------------------------------

From: URBANO <al703635@campus.ccm.itesm.mx>
Subject: Re: Black Hole ROM

Even when the article doesn't speak very well of AITS, at least they put 
a link to Seth's page.

					URB@NO
 ______________________________________________________________
 |... ed il mio bacio sciogliera il silenzio che ti fa mia.   |
 |[and my kiss will dissolve the silence which makes you mine]|
 |____________________________________________________________|
 |____________  Puccini: Turandot (act 3) ____________________|
       	      \__________________________/

------------------------------

From: Pete Schlenker <pschlenk@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:

>   If you tried to tie a dog to yhe back of a car a real dog would bite 
> your damn hand off.  I heard that it's fun to stick firecrackers in a 
> cat's butt.  (never did it just heard it's pretty neat.)
> 
> 					Bryan

you are really sick.  really sick.  really sick.  cat's and 
firecrackers?  

I have a joke about cat's asses.  just ask me, and i'll tell it.  
(warning it is VERY sick).

> 
> On 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:
> 
> > TO>Not to prolong a non sg thread, but.....
> > TO>If you did that, the toast would fall under the belly of the cat in 
> > TO>midfall and would therefore hit the ground approximately a millisecond 
> > TO>after the cat's claws.  Then the cat would proceed to lick itself and 
> > TO>become so annoyed with it's new toast apparel that it would seek and 
> > TO>assasinate the ones who performed the tying of the toast and the 
> > TO>dropping.  So, don't harm cat's.  They're smart.  -j
> > 
> > But if you tied a dog to a car, and drug it for miles, the dog would
> > realize that it hurts, and would probably die.  If you did this to a
> > cat, that cat wouldn't die, even though it hurt.  And then you can do
> > it again tomorrow.
> >  
> >                                                        Nothingman
> >  
> >    -I think I'd better go to bed before I reply to anything again.
> > 
> 

------------------------------

From: nicholas holland <nbholl@essex.ac.uk>
Subject: re: God Save The Queen, yeah right

Hey nothing like starting the day with an unjustified personal attack
on my taste in music is there.  I've not heard every band out of
Britain or Seattle.  Neither have you.  I've merely heard what people
are listening to in this country.  It is definately far more popular
than the Seattle sound that is coming over.  I don't categorise the
music.  the music press does that.  If you read yor soundgarden
mailing list you would have noticed that someone else had said that
Britpop was shite except for three bands (oasis, blur and pulp).  I
don't notice an attack on them for categorizing Britpop.  I look
forward to reading that particlar piece of mail when you get round to
mailing it the list.  As to why I'm comparing places and if I have
nothing better to do.  I am a History student who has an eight hour
week.  Even with essays it's only a ten hour week.  So no I do not
have anything more pressing to do for a couple of hours each week than
come and sit down here and play on the net.  I do listen to the nusic
by the way and I do lik some of it.  I never said I liked all Britpop
(in fact as I recall I said I didn't think Oasis were all that good).
I also think that what Eric g. Lanning was trying to point out is that
I may have missed mentionong the Charlatans when I listed a whole
plethora of coll bands from the Britpop scene.  For this I can only
apologise To Eric Loadsa Luck Nik!




------------------------------

From: "Steven Russell Jr." <swr@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Subject: Black Hole ROM

http://hotwired.com/music/95/49/soundgar.html 

...this seems to be the general opinion.  

Greed...music industry?  never!

steven

- ------------------------------------------------------------------
           Music-oriented multimedia used to be dominated by aging
            rockers trying to seem hip (see David Bowie, Todd
      Rundgren), but younger bands are now getting into the act by
      including multimedia content on discs that can be played in
      regular CD players. Unfortunately, most CD-Pluses and
      Enhanced CDs look like another lame attempt by record
      companies to charge more for discs by digitizing press material.
      Soundgarden's disappointing Enhanced CD is a perfect example;
      whatever credibility the band lost by becoming a fixture on
      MTV, this isn't the way to win it back. 

      Musically, Alive in the Superunknown doesn't offer any big
      surprises, except maybe for "She Likes Surprises," which until
      now had only been released overseas. The disc includes just three
      other audio tracks, and one of them is the same old album
      version of "Superunknown." "Like Suicide" [432k .aiff] is
      somewhat revived in an acoustic take, but only the casual
      jamming intro to the video version of "Fell on Black Days "
      [324k .aiff] separates it from the album version. 

      Alive in the Superunknown does have a few things going for it:
      the virtual world in the multimedia portion of the disc is kind of
      eerie - it includes surprisingly high-quality full-screen video clips
      for "The Day I Tried to Live," "Black Hole Sun," and "Fell on
      Black Days." Another highlight is an animated joy ride down a
      swerving staircase. 

      There are far more negatives. One of the two discs is filled with
      Corel CD-ROM drivers, a clear sign that installation hell awaits.
      Even with the drivers, the disc never played on my 486DX2/66,
      and it took about 15 minutes to get it to work on the latest
      Power Macintosh. 

      And for what? In a video clip of the band discussing its song
      writing process, the comments occasionally venture into Spinal
      Tap territory (We're a very musical band ... we want to be even
      more diverse....). Then there's a massive collection of band
      photos - with highlights that include Chris Cornell picking his
      nose. All this - and several computer-animated videos for
      "Superunknown" - hardly justifies the price of admission, which
      is a few dollars more than a full-length audio CD. Alive makes a
      nice memento for adoring fans, but it's really just another
      example of music industry greed.

      By Mark Glaser

------------------------------

From: schlepp <mjs7@axe.humboldt.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote:

> A, I heard all these little quips about two years ago, and B,
> this exactly the kind of shit everyone's saying we don't need.
> I don't mean to sound like such an asshole, but you're kind of throwing 
> gas on the fire instead of helping.
> 
> 			Curt


 I agree one hundred percent with Curt, the 15 seconds it took me to read 
that message could have been spent twiddling my squirrel or something 
else as equally enlightening.  Instead of that crap we could be talking 
about more important things like Chris's sexual inclinations, or goofy 
band names.  I have an idea, why not discuss band names that Chris 
himself might like.  A few might be:
          Butt Dart Champions
          Somo Hexual
          The Bi Bi Boys
          Soundgayden
          Bung Weasel
In the future we should avoid posting useless information to the list and 
create conversations that cater to the improvement of the self and shed 
light on subjects that seek to benefit the preservation of intellectual 
knowledge.  Thank You.


Also, From the responses I have seen, I don't think many of you get the 
Cat comment. (Hint: a falling cat will land on its feet; a dropped piece 
of buttered toast will inevitably land with the butter side on the floor)
It is not a twisted comment about hurting cats.


                            Matthew.

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From: "Bryan R. Herr" <brh01204@marauder.millersv.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

What is your sick joke?
		Bryan

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Pete Schlenker wrote:

> 
> On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:
> 
> >   If you tried to tie a dog to yhe back of a car a real dog would bite 
> > your damn hand off.  I heard that it's fun to stick firecrackers in a 
> > cat's butt.  (never did it just heard it's pretty neat.)
> > 
> > 					Bryan
> 
> you are really sick.  really sick.  really sick.  cat's and 
> firecrackers?  
> 
> I have a joke about cat's asses.  just ask me, and i'll tell it.  
> (warning it is VERY sick).
> 
> > 
> > On 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:
> > 
> > > TO>Not to prolong a non sg thread, but.....
> > > TO>If you did that, the toast would fall under the belly of the cat in 
> > > TO>midfall and would therefore hit the ground approximately a millisecond 
> > > TO>after the cat's claws.  Then the cat would proceed to lick itself and 
> > > TO>become so annoyed with it's new toast apparel that it would seek and 
> > > TO>assasinate the ones who performed the tying of the toast and the 
> > > TO>dropping.  So, don't harm cat's.  They're smart.  -j
> > > 
> > > But if you tied a dog to a car, and drug it for miles, the dog would
> > > realize that it hurts, and would probably die.  If you did this to a
> > > cat, that cat wouldn't die, even though it hurt.  And then you can do
> > > it again tomorrow.
> > >  
> > >                                                        Nothingman
> > >  
> > >    -I think I'd better go to bed before I reply to anything again.
> > > 
> > 
> 

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From: Chris Mackenzie <cmackenz@freenet.calgary.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Lyrics...

It makes perfect sense to me.

And I wanna fly above the storm
But You Can't grow feathers in the rain.

He is saying that he wants to fly but he can't, because its raining and 
you can't grow feathers in the rain - DUH!?

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From: Pete Schlenker <pschlenk@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:

> What is your sick joke?
> 		Bryan
Here is goes:

	One day, a couple of curious young boys, (you make up an age) saw 
some men going into a rather swank looking house.  Inside, was a lady at 
the counter.  SHe asked the first man how much money he was willing to 
pay for, uh, services.  "$500" he replied.  "Send out the blond!"  was 
her response.  Out came a girl looking, well, lets just say Baywatch is 
in her future.
	The lady at the counter asked the next man how much he had to 
pay.  He repiled that he had $350.  "Bring out the redhead" cried the 
lady, and a very good looking red headed woman came out.  Not as good as 
the blond, but still, quite nice.
	The last man before the young boys was up next.  The lady asked 
him how much he was going to pay.  "$100" he responded.  So the lady sent 
out the brunette, who was not as good looking as the rest because her 
hair was ratty, and kind of sick.
	Anyway, finally the young boys got to the counter.  The lady 
asked them how much money they had.  They replied "a buck thirty-five," 
to which the lady called back, "Bring out the greased cat's ass!"

	(I told you it was sick.  Don't say I didn't warn you.)


> 
> On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Pete Schlenker wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:
> > 
> > >   If you tried to tie a dog to yhe back of a car a real dog would bite 
> > > your damn hand off.  I heard that it's fun to stick firecrackers in a 
> > > cat's butt.  (never did it just heard it's pretty neat.)
> > > 
> > > 					Bryan
> > 
> > you are really sick.  really sick.  really sick.  cat's and 
> > firecrackers?  
> > 
> > I have a joke about cat's asses.  just ask me, and i'll tell it.  
> > (warning it is VERY sick).
> > 
> > > 
> > > On 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:
> > > 
> > > > TO>Not to prolong a non sg thread, but.....
> > > > TO>If you did that, the toast would fall under the belly of the cat in 
> > > > TO>midfall and would therefore hit the ground approximately a millisecond 
> > > > TO>after the cat's claws.  Then the cat would proceed to lick itself and 
> > > > TO>become so annoyed with it's new toast apparel that it would seek and 
> > > > TO>assasinate the ones who performed the tying of the toast and the 
> > > > TO>dropping.  So, don't harm cat's.  They're smart.  -j
> > > > 
> > > > But if you tied a dog to a car, and drug it for miles, the dog would
> > > > realize that it hurts, and would probably die.  If you did this to a
> > > > cat, that cat wouldn't die, even though it hurt.  And then you can do
> > > > it again tomorrow.
> > > >  
> > > >                                                        Nothingman
> > > >  
> > > >    -I think I'd better go to bed before I reply to anything again.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

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From: "Bryan R. Herr" <brh01204@marauder.millersv.edu>
Subject: Re: Here kitty, kitty.

That is a sick joke so of course it was funy.
		-Bryan

On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Pete Schlenker wrote:

> 
> On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:
> 
> > What is your sick joke?
> > 		Bryan
> Here is goes:
> 
> 	One day, a couple of curious young boys, (you make up an age) saw 
> some men going into a rather swank looking house.  Inside, was a lady at 
> the counter.  SHe asked the first man how much money he was willing to 
> pay for, uh, services.  "$500" he replied.  "Send out the blond!"  was 
> her response.  Out came a girl looking, well, lets just say Baywatch is 
> in her future.
> 	The lady at the counter asked the next man how much he had to 
> pay.  He repiled that he had $350.  "Bring out the redhead" cried the 
> lady, and a very good looking red headed woman came out.  Not as good as 
> the blond, but still, quite nice.
> 	The last man before the young boys was up next.  The lady asked 
> him how much he was going to pay.  "$100" he responded.  So the lady sent 
> out the brunette, who was not as good looking as the rest because her 
> hair was ratty, and kind of sick.
> 	Anyway, finally the young boys got to the counter.  The lady 
> asked them how much money they had.  They replied "a buck thirty-five," 
> to which the lady called back, "Bring out the greased cat's ass!"
> 
> 	(I told you it was sick.  Don't say I didn't warn you.)
> 
> 
> > 
> > On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Pete Schlenker wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bryan R. Herr wrote:
> > > 
> > > >   If you tried to tie a dog to yhe back of a car a real dog would bite 
> > > > your damn hand off.  I heard that it's fun to stick firecrackers in a 
> > > > cat's butt.  (never did it just heard it's pretty neat.)
> > > > 
> > > > 					Bryan
> > > 
> > > you are really sick.  really sick.  really sick.  cat's and 
> > > firecrackers?  
> > > 
> > > I have a joke about cat's asses.  just ask me, and i'll tell it.  
> > > (warning it is VERY sick).
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On 8 Dec 1995 rc@gcc.cc.md.us wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > TO>Not to prolong a non sg thread, but.....
> > > > > TO>If you did that, the toast would fall under the belly of the cat in 
> > > > > TO>midfall and would therefore hit the ground approximately a millisecond 
> > > > > TO>after the cat's claws.  Then the cat would proceed to lick itself and 
> > > > > TO>become so annoyed with it's new toast apparel that it would seek and 
> > > > > TO>assasinate the ones who performed the tying of the toast and the 
> > > > > TO>dropping.  So, don't harm cat's.  They're smart.  -j
> > > > > 
> > > > > But if you tied a dog to a car, and drug it for miles, the dog would
> > > > > realize that it hurts, and would probably die.  If you did this to a
> > > > > cat, that cat wouldn't die, even though it hurt.  And then you can do
> > > > > it again tomorrow.
> > > > >  
> > > > >                                                        Nothingman
> > > > >  
> > > > >    -I think I'd better go to bed before I reply to anything again.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

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From: MaYk Ledesma <mike@agham.dost.gov.ph>


>>And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore---SOUNDGARDEN


>What's this line from?  Sounds familiar but i just can't place it.


						   Nothingman



It's from "Rusty Cage"...like this :

When the forest burns along the road...like God's eyes in my headlights..
"And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore"..I'm gonna break..
I'm gonna break my rusty cage...and run.


Maykewl


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From: blind dog <s325961@student.uq.edu.au>
Subject: only a little soundgarden from atn. (fwd)


   Music News of the World
   
   
Edited by Jaan Uhelszki
     _________________________________________________________________
   
  Rendezvous With Alice (In Chains, That Is) At the Sludge Factory
  
   Addicted To Noise editor Michael Goldberg reports from Seattle: No,
   grunge bands are no longer performing on every street corner in
   Seattle like they were two years ago. Just kidding. But things have
   calmed down here. "Grunge is dead," says Alice In Chains
   guitarist/songwriter Jerry Cantrell. Then Cantrell and his buddy,
   Alice drummer Sean Kinney, let out a laugh. "They had a funeral,"
   Cantrell continues. "I read about it." He picks up a copy of Guitar
   World magazine and waves it. "See this." He points to a headline that
   says "Seattle: Dead Or Alive?" Excuse them if they're a tad cynical
   about the media's coverage of Seattle, as well as the way it sometimes
   seems that the only thing the media care about is the drug
   proclivities of the band's singer. Cantrell is still mildly pissed off
   about the intro to the Guitar World piece, which he says devoted a
   page to talking about drugs. The biggest surprise about the Alice In
   Chains guys is that they have a great sense of humor, and can laugh at
   themselves, and the world. When I ask if there is a sense of community
   among the Alice guys and the members of bands like Pearl Jam, Foo
   Fighters, Mudhoney and Soundgarden, Kinney says with tongue firmly in
   cheek: "Hate those guys. We hate each other. Like sometimes we'll get
   in our big Cadillacs and stuff and do drivebys on each other's houses.
   We're like rival gangs."
   
   "Fuckin' Chris [Cornell, Soundgarden] came by and got my house last
   night," adds Cantrell, with a big grin. "Fuckin' asshole. That's
   alright. I'm gonna get him when he goes to his mom's house."
   
   "Everybody's kind of gone through a lot of the same things," says
   Kinney, turning serious. "We have something in common. Everybody's
   been in the media hype of the whole thing. We shared that. Had no
   choice."
   
   "We didn't all start out trying to outdo each other," adds Cantrell.
   "Or outsell the other guy at the next gig at the Vogue."
   
   "Place only held 100 people," says Kinney. "So everyone could have
   their own 100 people who liked them."
   

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