From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 29 Nov 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 29 Nov 1995 00:26:22 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 29 Nov 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: bye, for now Re: Nowhere but You Re: New Album Religion, Soundgarden and selling out. Alive Re: Alive Re: New Album Re: New Album Re: students? CD Plus - long note - but Soundgarden is in there somewhere...... NEW DAMAGE Aussies? Re: Alive Re: students? Re: Ultramega OK Re: Alive Re: Alive Re: Alive Re: NEW DAMAGE Re: Alive ANYONE A NEW SG FAN, LIKE ME?????? where's that damn keyboard? Re: I Awake credits Re: Alive Alive Re: Nowhere but You CD Plus - long note - but Soundgarden is in there ------------------------------------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: bye, for now I've gotta unsubscribe. Not because I don't like the list or anything like that. My uni account gets shut down on 1st Dec, and I've finished my degree, so I won't be back at uni next year. I haven't got a modem at home, so I have to unsubscribe. I'm saving up to get on the internet, so as soon as I do, the first thing I do will be to subscribe to the SOMMS list. Keep up the good work, Seth. See you all in the Superunknown. David the no-longer subscribed SG fan. ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: Nowhere but You I just found Fresh Deadly Rarities. I haven't bought it yet. Would you recomend it? Which cd was the son with the lyrics "When you were here, I thought I'd never miss you"? ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: New Album On Sun, 26 Nov 1995 buddha@dmv.com wrote: > Where is everyone finding the new cd+ album. The Sam Goody, and Wxie Maxie > in my area never even heard of SG having a new release let alone cd+. > Help!!!! > >I found it at 3 Sam Goodies here in Jersey. Yet, each store only had 1 copy of it and it was all very hush-hush. I expected at least a poster or two but nothing! lee ------------------------------ From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) Subject: Religion, Soundgarden and selling out. So, every "real" Soundgarden fan has Screaming life/fopp EP, well I don't. That's a "real" shame. >There are a lot of people who are sceptical about religion because its >pretty much fucked up the world, look at Ireland. Doesn't mean that >Soundgarden are worshipping the devil or anything like that... Kylie Hayes - yes, open the doors to religion, then shut it before it get's through. I'm not sceptical of religion because of a fucked up world, I'm sceptical because I haven't seen the guy, or any of them (apparently there's three), although that could be the beer. And yes, please do take a look at Ireland, but if you get the chance take a look at Israel, Yugoslavia (or whatever the fuck it's called now), Iraq and Iran. I'm sure there's more. Oh yes, a political statement, I think we need one. I don't think Soundgarden worship the devil either, or if they do, it's to sell more records, and if Chris is Jesus ... er, Chris is Jesus? I guess there's too many people with nothing better to do than idolise. And somebody said that Soundgarden are "selling out", or "sold out", what does this mean? Does it mean that more people liked the new album as ppposed to the previous album, that it sounds more formulated, that you get a free badge and a t-shirt when you join the fan club. Can anybody name a band that never wanted to play to the larger audience and sell more records? ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Alive Well I must say that I'm a bit disappointed in the new cd+. Besides the fact that my computer won't read it, I wasn't too excited 'bout the album itself. Superunknown-I expected it to be live or at least a different version we all have this already Fell On Black Days-This was pretty cool, at least it was the video version instead of the one we already have, the tune up part was a plus She Likes Surprises- This was Excellent!!, what more could I say Like Suicide-Although I really like this version, I already had it on the SFW soundtrack Somewhere along the line I was led to believe that this was supposed to be live, hence the name "Alive in the Superunknown." Well that's just my little review, does any one out there agree? ------------------------------ From: MAJOR HEILLY Subject: Re: Alive On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, alisa brozena wrote: > Somewhere along the line I was led to believe that this was supposed to > be live, hence the name "Alive in the Superunknown." Yes, I also presumed the same. And why is it that everyone I meet that isn't a big soundgarden fan says that they sucked live? aarn ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: New Album LE>On Sun, 26 Nov 1995 buddha@dmv.com wrote: LE>> Where is everyone finding the new cd+ album. The Sam Goody, and Wxie Maxi LE>> in my area never even heard of SG having a new release let alone cd+. LE>> Help!!!! LE>> LE>>I found it at 3 Sam Goodies here in Jersey. Yet, each store only had 1 LE>copy of it and it was all very hush-hush. I expected at least a poster or t LE>but nothing! LE>lee I saw the new CD Rom thing that Soundgarden has out. It's got videos and songs and a lot of other cool stuff. It's even got Artis the Spoonman. It only costs $22. I thought it was well worth it. Nothingman -I wallowed in the blood and mud with all the other pigs. ------------------------------ From: MAJOR HEILLY Subject: Re: New Album I got the CD - for only 15.99 at a local store called Media Play. Sounds like you guys are paying alot for alot of techno-junk. ============================================================================== Aaron ============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: "Erik R. Cane" Subject: Re: students? On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > how many people on this list are students? and how many are psychology > students? i know of five, three of whom are my friends. just curious... > I'm a student at IU, but not a psychology major. Erik ------------------------------ Subject: CD Plus - long note - but Soundgarden is in there somewhere...... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Cuts from the November 28th issue of The Washington Post - with a few side comments from the Village Idiot. Enhanced CDs' Blend Music, Multimedia, But Many Consumers Remain Skeptical: It's an audio compact disc for the stereo. It's a CD-ROM for the personal computer. It's two - two- two discs in one. At least that's the idea behind enhanced CDs, a new consumer technology that has begun to pop up n record and computer stores. A merging of Silicon Valley know-how and MTV-style flash, enhanced CDs look and sound like conventional music CDs when played on the stereo, but also offer up text, videos, photos and even games when played on a computer's CD-ROM drive. The format is so new - the first release began just weeks ago - that performers and marketers are still trying to figure out what to put on the discs besides music. Village Idiot - "How about the ability to play the *&#$ thing" So far, the six major record companies are tentatively betting they will, (paid $5 to $7 dollars above the regular CD price), Sony, MCA, Polygram, Warner, BGM and EMI-Capitol will have to total of about 100 enhanced CD titles on the market by Christmas, including interactive works by Bob Dylan, The Rolling Stones, Michael Jackson, Natalie Merchant, Michael Bolton, Soundgarden and the Cranberries. Village Idiot - "How about that Jackson and Bolton in the same sentence as Soundgarden" Judging by consumer reactions, however, it may take some time for typical music fans to catch on. Shoppers interviewed at Tower Records on Pennsylvania Avenue, NW yesterday either hadn't heard of the format or were somewhat skeptical. Browsing through Towers Records' CD bins, Herbert Nelson, 40, a medical technologist from Hyattsville, pointed out that conventional CD-ROM software provides far more multimedia content than the new enhanced CD. Village Idiot - "Hey Herbert, better be careful - if Pearl Jam or Soundgarden hear your 40 - you can't go to their concerts" Enhanced CDs certainly aren't for everyone's hardware. Village Idiot - "Whoa - who said that" Part of the hardware problems is that not all enhanced CD software is created equal. Village Idiot - "I can see the future Equal Rights for CD software - Millions march on Washington" There are two manufacturing formats - one known as CD Plus, the other by several names - and each comes with its own set of compatibility problems. It's not clear how many consumers are affected by this. Warner Music estimates that less than 10 percent of the 12 million CD-ROM players in use in the U.S. can't play enhanced CDs, But Billboard mag. recently reported the number may be as high as 50%. Whatever the case, music companies aren't going out of their way to highlight the difficulties. Village Idiot - "What - tell us we can't play the disc before we buy it." Disc packages carry warnings, but mainly in small type on the back. Village Idiot - " I must be blind - I still haven't found it - never fear I'll look again" "Due to variances in computer hardware, we regret we cannot guarantee playback of the video on all CD-ROM players," reads one microscopic disclaimer. Village Idiot - "Regret but give you your money back - no way - next time take your magnifying glass with you to the record shop." One possible fix for the compatibility problems: Some record companies include a piece of software with each enhanced CD to diagnose whether a CD-ROM drive can be retrofitted right away. About half, estimates Ion's Roberts - can be fixed immediately by adding special software. Village Idiot - "Oh yes adding special software - if you can get your hands on it. And lets not forget you must call (phone - ring up) the manufacture of your CD-ROM - mine was on the west coast, I live on the east (long distance phone call) and they put me on hold 3 times - and no I still haven't got the correct firmware" Beyond the technical issues, the drawbacks of enhanced CDs may be artistic and market-oriented. For instance, in focus groups conducted by the Recording Industry Association of America, some consumers saw multimedia elements as "work" that might interfere with their enjoyment of the music. That could mean that the price for enhanced CDs, while typically less than half that of a standard $50 CD-ROM disc, might still be viewed as too high. Village Idiot - "That and the fact you get 4 songs for $20 if you can't get the hidden tracks to work" "There may be some bumps in the road in the short term," said Sony's Ehrlich, "but in the long term we think this is going to be worth the journey," Village Idiot - "Did he say journey - or could that have been money" Okay, folks take this whole thing with a bit of tongue in cheek humor. I'm sure the CD Plus will improve with age. Jamie (AKA: The Village Idiot) PS: Happy Birthday - Matthew D. Cameron ------------------------------ From: SHAFT Subject: NEW DAMAGE I have found a new ep, but im wondering if it is the one every one seems to have Songs frome the superunknown ok it has a trippy song called jerry garcas finger suprises and black days videoversion are these the songs from CD+ with out the computer shit ps web site in the liner notes www.rocktropolis.com/soundgarden :John Shaft: >private investigations< ------------------------------ From: Kylie Hayes Subject: Aussies? How many Aussies are on this list?? Seems to be a few... Kyl ------------------------------ From: Sabo Subject: Re: Alive Suck live!...I beg to disagree....I think that these people just don't know how a band is supposed to sound live. I saw SG in Milwakee, and I am still breathless just from the opening film show. Man I'm with ya, I have no idea why some one would say that SG sucks live? Hey, Did any one else see them in Milwakee? Please tell me and maybe we can look back on the concert together. Later Randy On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, MAJOR HEILLY wrote: > Yes, I also presumed the same. And why is it that everyone I meet that > isn't a big soundgarden fan says that they sucked live? > > aarn > ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: students? Hey, I'm a psych. student! Obviously (.sig) >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student http://www.uwinnipeg.ca/~gkleemol <-------------------------------<<< On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > how many people on this list are students? and how many are psychology > students? i know of five, three of whom are my friends. just curious... > ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Ultramega OK >On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, L7 wrote: >>.......but when I got back home >> (to Australia), no one knew about it, and other SG fans here thought that >> Louder than Love was their debut album. Hmmmmm . . . On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Blind Dog wrote: > not all us australians think that :) Hey, you took the words right out of my mouth!! Carolyn the also Marooned Faraway Aussie ****************************************************** Boiling heat, summer stench; 'neath the black the sky looks dead.... Steal the warm wind, tired friend; times are gone for honest men.... ****************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: Alive I have looked all over my area for just the EP ( I don't have a CD-ROM) and can't find it anywhere. I sounds like the CD+ thing wasn't the best idea for the band. But you can be sure that it is Susan Silver behind it all. She also manages Alice In Chains (am I correct on this?) and they too just released a CD+. BK ------------------------------ From: Bernard Mickey Wrangle Subject: Re: Alive At 11:07 AM 11/28/95 -0500, alisa brozena wrote: >Well I must say that I'm a bit disappointed in the new cd+. Besides the >fact that my computer won't read it, I wasn't too excited 'bout the album >itself. >Superunknown-I expected it to be live or at least a different version > we all have this already >Fell On Black Days-This was pretty cool, at least it was the video > version instead of the one we already have, the tune up part > was a plus >She Likes Surprises- This was Excellent!!, what more could I say >Like Suicide-Although I really like this version, I already had it on the > SFW soundtrack > >Somewhere along the line I was led to believe that this was supposed to >be live, hence the name "Alive in the Superunknown." >Well that's just my little review, does any one out there agree? > I most certainly do not agree...once you get it to work with your computer you will be amazed!!!! there's videos, tons of photos, there's chris talking about the recording process, there's a PONG game (though i haven't been able to find it yet...), there's a performance vid of Artis, and at the end you hear the guys laughing...but the best part is the Superunkown. this is like a David Lynch film/acid trip/mind-melt/warp in the space-time continuum. you 'click' on different things and get taken on a roller coaster ride through surreal hell. there's also NEW music, mostly incidental jams, but it's still new. make sure that you have enuff RAM to run this thing...you defintely need the recommended amount. btw, i use the CD+ on my brothers Power MAC. his machine has 8 MB RAM, and it runs great. cheers - --- "I smile better than the Mona Lisa" - Charles Bukowski (1920-1994) email: vertigo@cent.com ------------------------------ From: Bernard Mickey Wrangle Subject: Re: Alive At 11:35 AM 11/28/95 -0600, MAJOR HEILLY wrote: >Yes, I also presumed the same. And why is it that everyone I meet that >isn't a big soundgarden fan says that they sucked live? > >aarn > Soundgarden is my favorite band, and unfortunately they can suck live, but other times they're brilliant. i've seen the boys 4 times, twice they were great, and the other 2 times, they were very disappointing. the bad times were Lolla '92 and the show they played with NIN in Barrie (just north of Toronto). the best shows ive seen with SG were the show they played with pearl jam and neil young (they previewed songs from Superunknown) and on their badmotorfinger tour during the spring of '92. cheers - --- "I smile better than the Mona Lisa" - Charles Bukowski (1920-1994) email: vertigo@cent.com ------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: NEW DAMAGE What's the name of the new ep?? Curt On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, SHAFT wrote: > I have found a new ep, but im wondering if it is the one every one seems > to have > Songs frome the superunknown > ok it has a trippy song called jerry garcas finger > suprises and black days videoversion > are these the songs from CD+ with out the computer shit > ps web site in the liner notes > www.rocktropolis.com/soundgarden > :John Shaft: > >private investigations< > > ------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: Alive I didn't see them in Milwaukee but I saw them in Chicago at the Aragon Ballroom and it was fucking cool. I was right near the front and by the time the film show started the crowd was so thick i was actually being held up by them. I could feel the tips of my toes brushing against the floor. Curt On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, Sabo wrote: > Suck live!...I beg to disagree....I think that these people just don't > know how a band is supposed to sound live. I saw SG in Milwakee, and I > am still breathless just from the opening film show. > Man I'm with ya, I have no idea why some one would say that SG sucks live? > > Hey, Did any one else see them in Milwakee? Please tell me and maybe we > can look back on the concert together. > > Later > Randy > > On Tue, 28 Nov 1995, MAJOR HEILLY wrote: > > > Yes, I also presumed the same. And why is it that everyone I meet that > > isn't a big soundgarden fan says that they sucked live? > > > > aarn > > > ------------------------------ From: Shannon L Grossi Subject: ANYONE A NEW SG FAN, LIKE ME?????? I JUST RECENTLY STARTED GETTING INTO THEM BUT THEY KICK ASS!!!!! I LOVE EMAIL.......LETTERS WELCOME. MY OTHER LIST OF FAVS: - ---------------------- PEARL JAM BLACK CROWES ALANIS BLIND MELON LETTERS TO CLEO RUSTED ROOT SILVER CHAIR AND LOTS MORE..... I LOVE TO TALK ABOUT MUSIC....JUST EMAIL ME! ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: where's that damn keyboard? is everyone still sleeping off their turkey dinners or what? btw, october's metal hammer had an interview with chris in it, and it reports that the album is already half way finished. which means they are probably going to take off some time over christmas to reach the us. spring release date. but that was the stuff that they were producing themselves, so maybe they are going to scrap it and find a professional producer. who knows, I guess? just as long as someone tries to get some answers on their next chat (mtv?) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Missyaggra@aol.com Subject: Re: I Awake credits On Fri, 24 Nov 1995, John Grieves wrote: > The music for the song I Awake (on Louder than Love) is credited to Hiro > Yamamoto - fair enough - but the lyrics are credited to Kate McDonald. > Pardon me if I've been napping, but could someone tell me who Kate McDonald is? Kate is Hiro's girlfriend. >I asked this question twice about a month ago and got no answer. I guess >no one knows. Someone should've asked the boys on Spinonline. -j Someone should've asked someone from Seattle. ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: Alive a few of us saw them when they came to detroit, and it was one of the best concerts i have ever been to. they opened with jesus christ pose, played a lot of older shit, like from badmotorfinger, but they did a good mix of the superunknown in there as well. they definitely did not suck, in any way, shape or form. blasphemers. opinion havers ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Alive LE>Well I must say that I'm a bit disappointed in the new cd+. Besides the LE>fact that my computer won't read it, I wasn't too excited 'bout the album LE>itself. LE>Superunknown-I expected it to be live or at least a different version LE> we all have this already LE>Fell On Black Days-This was pretty cool, at least it was the video LE> version instead of the one we already have, the tune up part LE> was a plus LE>She Likes Surprises- This was Excellent!!, what more could I say LE>Like Suicide-Although I really like this version, I already had it on the LE> SFW soundtrack LE>Somewhere along the line I was led to believe that this was supposed to LE>be live, hence the name "Alive in the Superunknown." LE>Well that's just my little review, does any one out there agree? I borrowed a friend's Alive in the Superunknown, and I loved it. The graphics were cool, and i liked the different guitar sounds when I clicked on the various things. I loved the live Kickstand, and Artis the Spoonman just kicked ass. Fell on Black days will never get old, and She Likes Surprises and the acoustic version of Like Suicide was pretty cool too. I think it's well worth the money. Nothingman -Why don't they sing, "Take your vitamis, be a nice person?" ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: Re: Nowhere but You LE>I just found Fresh Deadly Rarities. I haven't bought it yet. Would you LE>recomend it? Which cd was the son with the lyrics "When you were here, I LE>thought I'd never miss you"? Geez! Another Soundgarden CD? I just got Loudest Love, and it's freakin' awesome. It has Fresh deadly Roses on it, but it doesn't have that line. But it does have a cool version of Big Dumb Sex. Nothingman -I'd love to make you mine to break your fresh deadly roses. ------------------------------ From: rc@bbs.gcc.cc.md.us Subject: CD Plus - long note - but Soundgarden is in there JS>PS: Happy Birthday - Matthew D. Cameron How old is he? ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 114] ****************************************