From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 27 Nov 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 00:15:01 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Monday, 27 Nov 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: AIC Mailing List Re: favourite houehold tasks + favourite tracks Re: AIC Mailing List soundgarden on the wall... The Devil?-Yet another controversial question about SG Devil addition- Good Eye Adios time's up.. Re: The Devil?-Yet another controversial question about SG Re:soundgarden..sellouts? (fwd) Re: fav place to listen (fwd) Re: Soundgarden and beer Re: SOUNDGARDEN LIFE Re: The Devil?-Yet another controversial question about SG New Album Re: I Awake credits ------------------------------------------------------------ From: JoAnn_Peach@livewire.com (JoAnn Peach) Subject: Re: AIC Mailing List jealous of us?...uh...DON'T...! I mean, we did the new CD thing, the "whether or not AIC will tour" thing, the "how to get your non-AIC friends into AIC"....now we're helping this teeny-bopper decide if he should dump his girlfriend because she'd rather listen to Mariah Carey instead of AIC... The one good thing is that the messages all come from the same sender. Maybe different people posting, but the address is the same. It's easier for me to weed out my personal email from the mailing list...then BAM! I get on this mailing list and I get...all of you! ;-) Ah well..it's Dead Bird Day..better get back to the relatives..."Hey Grammy? Can I stick SUPERUNKNOWN on the CD player??" - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Transmitted via LiveWire, a Virtual Valley service. Modem: 408.298.8646 (FirstClass, VT-100) Voice: 408.298.8174; E-mail: online@livewire.com ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: favourite houehold tasks + favourite tracks At 15:41 25/11/95 +1030, 9304458s wrote: >washing dishes ----- My wave >Vacuuming ---------- Kickstand (turned up xtra loud over the roar of the > vacuum cleaner) >Ironing ------------ Birth ritual >Dusting ------------ Dirt(AIC) >Cleaning the Loo --- Down in a hole (AIC) >Scrubbing the floor- Head down >Cooking meals ------ Fresh Tendrils You forgot, when your Mum comes home and you haven't cleaned the house properly --- No Excuses (AIC) Or when you're putting up posters of beautiful women (or men for the ladies) - --- Big Dumb Sex :> Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: AIC Mailing List At 15:46 23/11/95 GMT, JoAnn_Peach@livewire.com wrote: >jealous of us?...uh...DON'T...! I mean, we did the new CD thing, the "whether >or not AIC will tour" thing, the "how to get your non-AIC friends into >AIC"....now we're helping this teeny-bopper decide if he should dump his >girlfriend because she'd rather listen to Mariah Carey instead of AIC... Advice to teeny bopper: DUMP HER! No girl/boy could possibly be worth putting up with if you have to listen to Mariah Carey... All mailing lists I've been on and have seen people on have the same elements - the idiots, the unsubscribe messages, the questionnaires, the repeated threads - but the good things make up for the bad things easily, with great characters, trades of live boots and most importantly, you learn all about a band you love - and more. Every mailing list I've been in has introduced me to more than just the band in concern. I've learnt about many other bands, either through the list itself or through talking to the people on the list (thanks Carolyn!). >The one good thing is that the messages all come from the same sender. Maybe >different people posting, but the address is the same. It's easier for me to >weed out my personal email from the mailing list...then BAM! I get on this >mailing list and I get...all of you! ;-) Coming from the one address does have its benefits - but I like the setup of this list. I have an idea of who is likely to send out interesting/humourous/informative or personal mail, so they get priority in reading if my time is short... >Ah well..it's Dead Bird Day..better get back to the relatives..."Hey Grammy? >Can I stick SUPERUNKNOWN on the CD player??" :> Is this why the list has been so quiet over the past few days? Has everyone in America nicked off to have Thanksgiving? Note to everyone on the list: if you have a chance to see Henry Rollins live, do so - I've never seen a more powerful performance in my life. Maybe not as musically interesting as Soundgarden, but Rollins has a charisma that is second to none... Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: lala@MIT.EDU Subject: soundgarden on the wall... that reminded me of a similar experience i had. about a year ago, i went to a fraternity (fraternities are typically classical rock listeners around here) and on someone's wall was written "i know i'm headed for the bottom, but i'm riding you all the way." i was so excited and i asked the guy i was with if he had written it and he said no and neither had his roommate so i made him ask around to see who had written it but he never found out. although this was at mit, i don't think it was seth, because he doesn't live in a fraternity and to my knowledge, does not frequent that one. by the way, seth, i'm talking about tdc, so if you know anyone who might fit the description in that house, let me know. it was so random, it was written in the midst of other such graffiti gems, like "women suck compared to bong hits." and it made me feel like at least there was someone else at the school who listened to the same music i did. it made me feel really good when i found out that the coordinator of the list was at my school too. shana ------------------------------ From: clay andreia Subject: The Devil?-Yet another controversial question about SG There has been talk on this list of some picture in which Chris Cornell looks like Jesus. Now I have a huge black and white picture of a long haired and bare-chested Chris and I must admit, even now with his short hair (picture in Rolling Stone), I've always thought that Chris went out of his way to look sinister and excuse me if I raise some hackles here, rather devilish. While this could just be wishful thinking on my part, I started thinking about the very anti-Christian sentiment in some SG songs and I really do think I've hit upon something. First let me say that I apologize if this has already been discussed on the newsgroup and second I'd be interested in knowing if any of the band has ever brought this up. OK. Here are my examples. All of Holy Water (Holy Water's rusting me...), Wooden Jesus (the consumerism and hypocrisy of religion), 4th of July ("down in the waterways, where the baptized drowned... Down in the hole, Jesus tries to crack a smile, beneath another shovel load") and of course, Jesus Christ Pose ("But you're staring at me like I- like I need to be saved! and of course later, like I'm driving your nails.) It seems like they may only be against the hypocrisy, intolerance, and consumerism that seems to follow Christianity. Just my $.02. Let the flames begin :-) Just playing devil's advocate, AC ------------------------------ From: clay andreia Subject: Devil addition- Good Eye I forgot "and the devil says..." With my good eye closed, AC ------------------------------ From: e9328995@student.uq.edu.au (John Grieves) Subject: Adios Little Jackhammer's gotta go off to do some work on his uni holidays now... So to all of you, I look forward to hearing you in the next year! This year's been some fun with you guys! And remember - modern music is the kind that is played so fast you can't tell which classical composer it was stolen from... Behave yourselves! Merry Christmas and catch you in '96... Jackhammer the Music Anthologist. Oh, you want Soundgarden content? OK, did you know that the last three albums have all had titles with four or more syllables? :> ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: time's up.. On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, seth wrote: > > think about the amount of data that could be stored on a cd, especially > > with compression techniques...they could put every track ever recorded > > i'm not quite sure they could realistically put _that_ much on one > disc. with current mainstream cd-burning techniques, the maximum is > still 75 minutes of audio or 660MB of data. if they were to use the > newest technologies (i.e., blue lasers) they could cram 10 times that I've also learned from my dad who listens to a lot of classical music that some compact disc players cannot handle cds that are over about 60 minutes or so long. classical cd companies have problems with this because their type of performances are generally very long (I'm sure I didn't have to say that, did I?). but I do know that chris was glad to find out that the technology (the compact disc) would allow them to put 16 songs on superunknown, which comes to about 71 minutes if I'm not mistaken, and that they wouldn't have to cut some songs out. but I wouldn't be surprised if one day cd+ becomes the normal format for music releases. the companies could basically do away with all that nasty artwork on the front of the cd (we're already half-way there with the move from albums to compact discs and cdc), and could just throw all the linear notes up on the cd itself. but then again, this probably won't happen, or at least not any time soon. I personally would prefer just the music, especially if cd+ releases are such half-hearted efforts as alive in the superunknown seems to be. maybe the band should have consulted us. we could have told 'em what to put on there :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Re: The Devil?-Yet another controversial question about SG I think Chris is just a " recovering Catholic." I read an article somewhere that he and his sister were just about kicked out of Catholic school!! So who knows what kind of teachings he is trying to exorcise with his lyrics. And Kim may be a recovering Hindu?? ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re:soundgarden..sellouts? >i am a soundgarden fan.big time.i usually love whatever they put out.but >this "alive in the superunknown" thing puzzles me. why did they put this >out? almost everyone here says that it wasn't worth it;most of you cannot >get the thing to even work.it seems like a waste of money.sad to say,it >seems like our boys just sold out.i really thought soundgarden was immune >to this but i guess i was wrong.i guess i will do what a lot of people >are doing and patiently wait for their next real album to come out and to >pretend that "alive" never existed. this is something that a group like >bush would do, not soundgarden. I don't really think they sold out, we all have to remember they work for A&M records, and from A&M's stand point they want to make money. They want everyone to sellout. Since soundgarden owns the complete rights to all they're songs, and continue to produce music however they please. And are not in your face all the time doing lettermen appearence etc. etc.. I mean they had the number one song of 94' despite the fact they also dissapeared off the face of the earth during that time period. I bet A&M loved that, they did not do alot of self serving promotions. So I would not worry about, it. They are only selling out if they're music suffers because they are trying write catchy songs. Although a catchy song in 17/8 would be an accomplsihment. I think listning to those songs in those time sig's uses more neurons in the brain thats why the general public doesn't like them that much. Clown a semi-disgusted fan, vince at utdallas ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: (fwd) Re: fav place to listen MR>>Oh yeah, and listening to it during sex is pretty great too, Chris' voice j MR>>does it to me. MR> Thank god, I'm not the only one, now I really miss my ex-girlfriend. Not MR> many girls out there are as big a soundgarden fan as I am. No big dumb s MR> jokes please. MR>>Alie University of Western Ontario, Canada MR> My favorite place to hear soundgarden is: 1)when I first get up MR> 2)During homework MR> 3)After I get a big assignment MR> done,(superunknown) MR> 4)When I'm happy(birth ritual) MR> 5)when I'm depressed(limo Wrec MR> Okay I think you get the point. I must go purchase alive in the MR> superunknown now. MR> Clown about to listen to limo wreck because he misses his ex. >Not that I'm trying to turn this into the Soundgarden dating service.. >in fact I'm like the youngest person on the list, but I have trouble >finding males who are as big a Soundgarden fan as I am... in fact NO ONE >around here likes Soundgarden, where the hell IS everyone???? >Stolen Prayers >Albany, NY Good question, One of 3 know soundgarden fans at lehigh/Clown ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: (fwd) Re: Soundgarden and beer >I hate to sound like Mary Poppins here, but does anyone else find that >listening to (preferably loud) music makes doing the housework seem not >so bad after all? My favourite is probably the Due South theme tune >for ironing: ironing being the worst chore, and the music for Due South >making it tolerable. Sorry, a bit non-SG there. >Favourite household tasks + favourite tracks, anyone? Listing to the live track section of Ultramega Ok, while I am cooking dinner is pretty cool. Clown >Neale >PS Listening to Pearl Jam doesn't count as a chore. B-) Neale Grant | Finger for GeekCode | neale.grant@univ.ox.ac.uk University College | The Quatermass Experiment is a top SF short story Oxford | diskmag: http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~univ0155/tqe.html OX1 4BH, UK | "I'm not fine, fuck pretending" - Alice In Chains ------------------------------ From: Jennifer C Graham Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDEN LIFE Do you actually get to do this for a school assignment? I am so jealous if you do! On Fri, 24 Nov 1995, BARRIGA SAMAME SAMAME wrote: > I HAVE TO DO A WORK ABOUT SOUNDGARDEN AND I HAVE TO GIVE IT IN A > FORTHNITE. I HAVE ONLY SOME ABOUT THE LIFE OF CORNELL, BUT OF THE > OTHER MEMBERS I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION. I WANT SOMETHING ABOUT > THEIR CHILHOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. > I'D BE VERY PLEASED. > THANKS > ERIKA. > ------------------------------ From: Kylie Hayes Subject: Re: The Devil?-Yet another controversial question about SG ---------- >From: Tonerkins >To: andreic; somms >Subject: Re: The Devil?-Yet another controversial question about SG >Date: Sunday, 26 November 1995 9:37PM > > I think Chris is just a " recovering Catholic." I read an article >somewhere that he and his sister were just about kicked out of Catholic >school!! So who knows what kind of teachings he is trying to exorcise with >his lyrics. And Kim may be a recovering Hindu?? I identify with this... I went through a Catholic school until college and I definitely have some pessimistic views of the whole religion scene. I mean, it just never did anything for me, or alot of my friends who were dragged through it with me. You see the hypocrisy 1st hand, 'do as I say not as I do' etc etc. I identify with Wooden Jesus in the way he sings "i'll cut you in, on 20% of my future sin" as in the money scandals religion has pulled off, especially the Catholic religion. There are a lot of people who are sceptical about religion because its pretty much fucked up the world, look at Ireland. Doesn't mean that Soundgarden are worshipping the devil or anything like that... In my view the lyrics are very fitting for the religion hypocrites and those who push others to be the same. Kyl ------------------------------ From: buddha@dmv.com Subject: New Album Where is everyone finding the new cd+ album. The Sam Goody, and Wxie Maxie in my area never even heard of SG having a new release let alone cd+. Help!!!! ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: I Awake credits On Fri, 24 Nov 1995, John Grieves wrote: > The music for the song I Awake (on Louder than Love) is credited to Hiro > Yamamoto - fair enough - but the lyrics are credited to Kate McDonald. > Pardon me if I've been napping, but could someone tell me who Kate McDonald is? > I asked this question twice about a month ago and got no answer. I guess no one knows. Someone should've asked the boys on Spinonline. -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 112] ****************************************