From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 22 Nov 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 00:28:02 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 22 Nov 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Re: CD Plus re: tuning and the value of near-ob (fwd)[11~ PJ v SG Enough!!! Re: God!!!! soundgarden _Alive in the Superunknown_ Re: CD Plus Re: God! SG like Filter? Re: CD Plus Re: Truly filter/soundgarden Re: Web Web Web woohoo re: tuning and the value of near-ob (fwd)[11~ Re: Web Web Web Re: Web Web Web Re: Web Web Web _Alive... fav place to listen Men's men (was Re: Explanation why Pearl Jam... Seedy Plus new ep (i think) Sorry Re: Sorry Seedy Plus Re: soundgarden Re: fav place to listen Re: soundgarden sittin' on the dock of the bay...:) morning is dead and the day is too... so we aren't the chosen? entering the screaming life Re: Soundgarden and beer Re: CD Plus the cd+: is it a minus? Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 21 Nov 1995 Susan Silver = Yoko Ono? Re: entering the screaming life black hole web Re: so we aren't the chosen? everything I've shown is what I feel... Re: so we aren't the chosen? money grab? RE: Susan Silver = Yoko Ono? Re: money grab? Re: money grab? RE: Susan Silver = Yoko Ono? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: MAJOR HEILLY Subject: Re: CD Plus Ok . . . This is it!!! I have had enough. It's 3:00am on Nov 21 and I bought Alive in the Superunknown at 12:00 am. I stood in line at Media Play, which opened it's doors for the Beatles and Garth Brooks releases, totally forgetting the Soundgarden. A local D.J. who was covering the new Beatles release asked what I was going to get: Beatles or Brooks, to which I replied Soundgarden. Ha!! They only had ONE copy! I got it luckily, and I am the only person in Fargo Moorhead that does. I called a thousand other stores and no one even knew it was coming out! I got the CD+, they didn't stock the EP. But the last laugh was on me. I have been sitting here for the last 2 1/2 hours loading every driver possible to get the damned thing to play. Whatta piece of shit Corel puts out. It doesn't support shit. Next time, I hope A&M and Corel look into this. Tomorrow I call my CD ROM Manufacturer. Feeling Minnesota in Minnesota, Aaron Life Sucks, Then You Live. =============================================================================== SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS =============================================================================== AL I VEIN THESU PER UNK N OWN - CHICKA JACKEEN AKA: LaMONT SANFORD, GORDON SHUMWAY, MAJOR HEILLY, JERRY MATHERS, PEE WEE'S JAMBI SWM 5'10" 160lbs seeking attractive SF for meaningful relationship. Must be independent, interested in music, and educated. Also, I enjoy camping, concerts, parties, and am not afraid of the more cultural life. ------------------------------ Subject: re: tuning and the value of near-ob (fwd)[11~ From: "Matthew Paul Lawrence" > Another cool tuning is use in Like Suicide. The high E string is tuned > down to a C, as well as the low E do a D. There are several others on > that disc that have different tunings, but I am tired of this note. > > Eric > > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, bwalsh wrote: > > > for those of you who are concerned with the intricacies of tuning to > > dropped-d, it might be easier this way--especially if you are slowly > > deafening yourself with maximum distortion. if you play a d--fifth fret, > > fifth string--and strike the low e, you get a disgusting mix. tune the > > low e down until the e and d sound the same--you can feel it easier than > > hearing it unless you're blessed with perfect pitch, in which case you > > would not have asked. > > if you're into alternate tunings--as practiced by sg--locate the > > badmotorfinger book, or memorize it before leaving empty-handed (i > > realize many of us are on a limited budget). holy water and > > searching...tune to b for that ass-vibrating, floppy-string madness. > > B. > > Another good way is to hit the harmonic on the low E string 5th fret and the D string 12th fret, then you can tune using the same note (rather than fifths plus gain the advantage of using harmonics (they are easier to distinguish because there are less 'background pitches'). Matt > ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: PJ v SG Enough!!! On the subject of who is better PJ or SG, i'd like to add my thoughts...... Comparing these two bands is by and large redundant, what do they really have in common apart from the fact that they are both from Seattle and both considered "Grunge"?. Their music, I believe is totally seperate from each other, PJ are more like an all-American rock group, the sort that we've heard in one form or another through the years (Journey, The Eagles etc) and SG are a bit different, not so easy to pigeonhole, they write more far-out, demanding to listen to music. In fact I feel comparing these two bands is like comparing Led Zep (PJ) and Black Sabbath (SG), and lets face it they don't sound similar at all, they are just thought of in the same breath as they were around at the same time and both are "Rock" bands. For what its worth I think SG are the better band but that is just IMHO, as a preference as I prefer heavier, moodier music and PJ can be a little cloying at times (Daughter, Alive etc). As to who are the better musicians, I don't agree that just because SG play harder, seemingly more technical stuff that they are necessarily better musos, I bet PJ could play any SG song if they really wanted to, just because their music does'nt have complicated drum beats and such-like does'nt mean they could'nt play one, just its their choice to play what they play, I also agree with what someone said about finding it hard to learn one of PJ's songs and learning Black Hole Sun in no time at all, Stone Gossards riffs are hard to play in their own right, and he also uses strange tunings like Chris. Next thing you know there will be someone comparing SG to TLC or someone just because both happen to sing and release records, it has about as much relevance as comparing them to Pearl Jam. Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: God!!!! On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, Jennifer C Graham wrote: > > > > SWM 5'10" 160lbs seeking attractive SF for meaningful relationship. > > Must be independent, interested in music, and educated. Also, I enjoy > > camping, concerts, parties, and am not afraid of the more cultural life. > > Why don't people ever seek "unattractive" mates? >Is this a dating service now? ------------------------------ From: Michael J Sharkey Subject: soundgarden Anyone play a game by electronic arts called Road Rash? I have yet to but from what I understand the game, on one of the new 32 bit gaming systems, has a soundtrack by actual bands. Yes, soundgarden is one of them, reportedly doing four songs on the game with video clips. What are the songs, are they new? Are the video clips new? Does anyone have the black hole sun import CD single from Germany? If not I strongly recommend buying it. Along with BHS it has live versions of Jesus Christ Pose, and Beyond the Wheel. Both really jam, but beyond the wheel is the best soundgarden song of all time, and this live version is incredible! What is FOPP, and what is soundgarden talking about in the FOPP song? Can anyone help? ------------------------------ From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington) Subject: _Alive in the Superunknown_ Did SG release an EP as well? The only one I could find was the CD+. Even though I don't even have a CD-Rom player, I bought it. In fact, I'm about to sneak over to the room of the kid down the hall to use his CD-Rom. Ha, ha ha! Oh, and "She Likes Surprises" is worth the $15 I paid, even if it's the only thing I ever see. -Matt ------------------------------ From: MAJOR HEILLY Subject: Re: CD Plus It seems that my drive is too old to play the damned thing. I have a multi-session drive that finds everything except the hidden track, and Matsushita isn't making any firmware updates. I guess I finally have a reason to buy that new CD-Rom Drive I've always wanted. :( (No CD+ Yet). Any other horror stories to make me feel better (?), Beyer Life Sucks, Then You Live. =============================================================================== SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS =============================================================================== AL I VEIN THESU PER UNK N OWN - CHICKA JACKEEN AKA: LaMONT SANFORD, GORDON SHUMWAY, MAJOR HEILLY, JERRY MATHERS, PEE WEE'S JAMBI SWM 5'10" 160lbs seeking attractive SF for meaningful relationship. Must be independent, interested in music, and educated. Also, I enjoy camping, concerts, parties, and am not afraid of the more cultural life. ------------------------------ From: MAJOR HEILLY Subject: Re: God! I put that little tag at the end of my sig file half jokingly. Sorry to piss you off with it. I suggest deleting all my posts before reading them if it bothers you enough. Either do that, or don't look at .sig files like the majority of the readers and focus on the content of the message. Granted SOMMS is not a dating service, but everywhere else I have posted (and I post to alot of different places) no one has said a thing. If you are that worried about 3 lines at the end of some students .sig file, I suggest counting to ten and getting your blood pressure checked. The kid no one talks to at the 10th year reunion, Aaron G. Beyer Life Sucks, Then You Live. =============================================================================== SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS =============================================================================== AL I VEIN THESU PER UNK N OWN - CHICKA JACKEEN AKA: LaMONT SANFORD, GORDON SHUMWAY, MAJOR HEILLY, JERRY MATHERS, PEE WEE'S JAMBI SWM 5'10" 160lbs seeking attractive SF for meaningful relationship. Must be independent, interested in music, and educated. Also, I enjoy camping, concerts, parties, and am not afraid of the more cultural life. ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: SG like Filter? I was browsing my AOL Q&A of SG and was surprised that they listed Filter, along with PJ Harvey and The Presidents of the United States of America, as bands that give them a rush or a sense of competition. PJ Harvey is 'challenging', and TPOTUSOA are pure silliness and originality. But Filter? I thought they were virtually a Nine Inch Nails cover band with a pop twist. Are they actually good? The Tubes as a favorite during their teen years? One of Kim's favorites I assume? Who are they? I believe Chris preferred The Meat Puppets, Killing Joke and Alice Cooper. I'm glad they think the crowd at the Toronto double-bill with Nine Inch Nails was great, but the only comments I heard after the show were "I told you SG's not a mosh" and "I can't believe they didn't play Outshined." And lastly, a comment directed at Chris: Charlene at Thai on Alki misses you and Susan? What the hell is this...a restaurant? Vikki ------------------------------ From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington) Subject: Re: CD Plus How about not having a CD-Rom drive period? I tried to use my disc on my friend's CD-Rom, but it wouldn't work either. We'll get it sometime! -Matt > It seems that my drive is too old to play the damned thing. I >have a multi-session drive that finds everything except the hidden track, >and Matsushita isn't making any firmware updates. I guess I finally have >a reason to buy that new CD-Rom Drive I've always wanted. :( (No CD+ Yet). > Any other horror stories to make me feel better (?), > Beyer ------------------------------ From: Ethan Hennessey Subject: Re: Truly On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Daniel Garrett wrote: > > > Read Kerrang for the first time in ages this week and they were raving about > this band - Truly, on closer inspection it looks like Hiro's in it and they were > described as SG, Monster Magnet, Led Zep and the Doors influenced, anyone heard > it yet?? Worth buying?? > > > Daniel Garrett > Of course its worth buying. Sorta like a cross between old Screaming Trees (Mark Pickerell is the drummer), old Soundgarden (Hiro on Bass), and Doors stuff. I like it. It took a while to grow on me, but the CDs that do that are alwAys my favorite in the long run. So yeah, buy it. - ------Ethan ------------------------------ From: ADDC Subject: filter/soundgarden so soundgarden likes filter, huh? good. filter is a really great band,in my opinion. i can understand how they give our boys a rush by listening to them.just listen to "dose" and you will see what i mean.great band. is the president's new album any good? what are the mailing addresses for pearl jam, and nine inch nails? thanks. vincevarkeyatutd dtutayekravecniv ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between <"He Who Walks Between"@email.unc.edu> Subject: Re: Web Web Web So why not print the transcript in its true form on the page? Just say you captured the buffer for the entire time..... -j ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: woohoo I finally got the stinking cd rom, although I can't use it cuz I don't have a cd rom player and all my friends won't let me use theirs.. I DID, however, get a hold of the EP. The cover is totally different from the CD+, And it isn't even called "Alive In The Superunknown," it's "Songs from the Superunknown." I am listening to Jerry Garcia's Finger right now, and there is no vocals or drums in the song, just a bunch of weird noise. It's cool. The cover has a real blurry picture of Chris on the front. The insert is a picture of teeth with silver fillings. It costs seven dollars. It's cool. Stolen Prayers ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between <"He Who Walks Between"@email.unc.edu> Subject: re: tuning and the value of near-ob (fwd)[11~ On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Matthew Paul Lawrence wrote: > > (stuff about tunings) > > On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, bwalsh wrote: > > > > > (more stuff about tunings) > Another good way is to hit the harmonic on the low E string 5th fret and the > D string 12th fret, then you can tune using the same note (rather than fifths > plus gain the advantage of using harmonics (they are easier to distinguish > because there are less 'background pitches'). > Why not just get a tuner and tune the sixth string at the second fret to E, which will mean that sixth string open will be D? This works really good for people like me who don't have an ear for pitch. -j ------------------------------ From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Subject: Re: Web Web Web First... I vaguely remember someone mentioning something about the SG song on the _Screaming Life_ compilation CD. There was confusion about the name loud love. Loud Love is the music publishing company that (i believe) controls the rights to the song. So, the only SG song on the compilation is "Entering". btw: I highly suggest you pick a copy of the book up for christmas...It's really outstanding. >Well, I've put all of the info from the liner notes of the new _Alive >in the Superunknown_ CD Plus on the Web page. I don't know how useful >this will be to anyone. (I will have some real input about the new >release as soon as I get a chance to check it out in its entirety) Well Seth, I'm on the other side of the fence. I went hunting for the CD-plus, and only came away with the audio only disk. That'll teach me for leaving buffalo a day early. If you plan on buying the audio only _Songs from the Superunknown_, dont buy it because of the song "Jerry Garcia's Finger". It's 4 minutes of noise...nothing else. They did add a few more seconds to the beginning of Fobd (video)..that was pretty neat...The inside photo's of a gold tooth filling and a dental x-ray are pretty neat also.. >I've also retrieved, formatted and made available for your perusal the >official transcript from Soundgarden's AOL chat session. Now this is >_extremely_ interesting: you may remember that I sent a message to the >list that included some comments from the SPINonline host about our >Web page versus the official site. From Steve's log, SPINmc said the >following about our page: If you look closely they edited a lot more than just that. > ...and is way better than the official site, which is at > http://Rocktropolis.com/Soundgarden/ > >Now, according to the official transcript, SPINmc said: > > ...The official site is still under construction and will > supposedly rock once it is finished. Tak a look at that over at > http://Rocktropolis.com/Soundgarden/. record companies suck. Management firms suck. The band is headed in a more image conscience direction, that's too bad..because the music can stand up for itself. Anyone remember what Gold Mountain management said after kurt cobains first suicide attempt? What a bunch of idiots. Didnt they think people would eventually know the truth? Seth you must of purposely sent this email to me because you know that It would rile me up...! It makes you think just HOW much MONEY! susan silver pumped into the official web site? You know that it had to be substantial for her to act like this. I'm surprised you havent received copyright threats yet! I've got this strange feeling that she feels we're the enemy. >It seems that someone affiliated with Soundgarden (Silver Management, >perhaps?) put the blame where it's due: susan silver. You know it was her decision. >exercised final editing authority and made SPIN alter the >truth before making the transcript public. Very interesting (to me, at >least), indeed. I'm more disappointed with Spin. I expect record company (management) weasels to act like greedy pigs (or protectors). There goes spin's integrity...right down the fucking drain. It makes you wonder if Mark Arm really was writing about chris and the band in the song "Generation Spokesmodel"? If you've never heard the song...I suggest you buy or borrow a copy of Mudhoney's album _My brother the Cow_...because this incident sounds eeriely familiar! I hope someone writes a long nasty letter to spin! If someone does...send a copy to me...I'd love to read it :-) Hell, I'll co-author it. "20% of the gross..goes straight to the man!", Steven ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Re: Web Web Web Yeah I know that totally sucks, they're afraid to admit that Seth's page IS 20385927582467% better than the OFFICIAL page! HA! I think I speak for ALL text-only Web users when I say that. THE OFFICIAL PAGE IS USELESS TO US! USELESS, I TELL YOU! Susan, go climb a frigging Banana Tree! I am PROUD to say that I CONTRIBUTED to Seth's page!!!! Thank you very much. Stolen Prayers jumps off of her soap box ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: Web Web Web Ok Steve, i think i'll take you up on that coauthor idea. And while we're at it, what about sending one to Silver Management? -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: btimlake@nwu.edu (Benjamin Timberlake) Subject: _Alive... Put quite simply, this CD Plus thing rocks. I had to change my pants after I played with it the first time. My friend and I just turned out the lights and let ourselves slip into the superunknown. If you have a CD rom drive, you are doing yourself an extreme disservice by not going out and buying this _right now_! If anyone finds any "easter egg" type things, post 'em to the list! - Ben ********************--*********************--******************** Benjamin Timberlake Think back, Northwestern University Look forward, btimlake@nwu.edu And _Smile_ "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden, "Mind Riot" ------------------------------ From: Alison Mugford Subject: fav place to listen I'm totally new to this list, so please forgive me if I say anything stupid about stuff I have missed. I guess I'll start with my most favourite place to listen to Soundgarden. Besides super loud in a car on the highway, or blaring when I finally roll out of bed at two o'clock on a Saturday afternoon, my favourite, or should I say coolest, listening experience was during one of my frosh week activities (last year). All of the frosh were hanging around outside on this huge playing field and there were these huge speakers so that everybody could hear. Anyway, they play Black Hole Sun and everybody was just standing around singing and grooving away. It was really cool, like everybody was entranced by this wave of Soundgarden. That's the loudest I've ever heard it (never been to a concert of theirs yet, even though I'm from Toronto) and it was just amazing to be part of so many people being really into it all at once. Oh yeah, and listening to it during sex is pretty great too, Chris' voice just does it to me. Alie University of Western Ontario, Canada ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com Subject: Men's men (was Re: Explanation why Pearl Jam... >> My favorite song in this vein is "Call me a >> dog". Cornell manages to capture the pain of an ending relationship without >> resorting to sentimentality. It is very...well...very _male_. This is a >> matter of style rather than content, but it is refreshing and rare to hear >> a _genuinely_ male voice in rock not singing about tits. There's one for >> the critics... >> >Call me a dog is an amazing song, yes, but it still doesn't do what black >does. btw, is Edddie's voice not genuinely male? Cuz i don't think i've >heard him singing about tits.....Oh wait "I would rather starve than eat >your breast" Maybe i'm wrong... > I am not talking about his "voice", literally. Rather, I am making the (albeit inanely postmodern) point that Cornell and the boys express their masculinity in their music. I find in rock these days that male artists either repress their masculinity or make a mockery of it. Imagine Eddie Vedder, or Kurt Cobain for that matter, getting onstage topless. Imagine them screaming "Fuck!" and the crowd screaming back, "you!". But Cornell manages to do it without looking or sounding cheesy. I saw SG open for Danzig, and the contrast between the two pec-baring styles was clear as day. And why is that Madonna is called a "strong, independent woman" and Paul Stanley is called a sexist pig? (How the tables have turned - in _some_ areas, anyway). Now look at the lyrics: "You tell me I'm low, 'cause I slept on the floor/And out in the woods, with the badgers and wolves/And you threw me out, 'cause I was digging for gold/And came home with a hand full of coal". It has the "when-men-were-men" sensibility of country music, without the cowboy boots (but _with_ the yodeling!). Vedder's "I know one day you'll have a beautiful life/I know you'll be a star/In somebody else's sky/But why can't it be mine?" is good, but not "manly" to my ears. It is the difference between stars in the sky and badgers and wolves. A silly point, I know (perhaps no point at all), but people say that men think with their penises. I just think it is important to note that a penis may have something intelligenrt to say. "Jesus, I don't like my penis..." On second thought... Samson ------------------------------ Subject: Seedy Plus From: seth Well, I put the new CD+ in my CD-ROM drive, and believe it or not, it played fine, without my even having to install the Corel drivers. That is, it played fine except for parts with sustained audio and video at the same time, which were extremely choppy; this occurred while exploring the audio player and the video forest, and some portions of the Superunknown. This seems to be caused by poor CD-ROM drive performance (and no, installing the Corel drivers didn't help) - -- even though it is double-speed. I guess I now have a reason to upgrade, too. Anyway, I can't say that what I did see of the disc was very exciting. The opening title animation is way too flashy, in stark contrast to the mood that I perceive Soundgarden's music as inducing. The photo jam consists of a slew of low-resolution images and some background music -- nothing really worthwhile. I really would have liked to have seen the animated _Badmotorfinger_ logo (the wheel). Of all of SG's discs, I think BMF looks the best (and no, that's not really important, as Steve pointed out, because the music stands on its own regardless of the image that the band portrays). You may have noticed from the few graphics on the Web page that they are constructed from pieces of _Badmotorfinger_ (the band photo on the main page, the wheel on the discography page). When I redo the Web page (soon, soon), it will be very much built with fragments of the BMF look. Sorry about going off on a tangent there. I don't think there was really any reason to release the CD+. It's not something I view as a "Soundgarden thing to do." It's not at all reflective of the spirit of the band's music -- especially the audio tracks that are included (when I hear "Like Suicide," I don't want to see flashy purple pictures -- I want dark, I want moody). I'm not quite sure what market they were targeting with this, and I suspect that this is not a project that the band was particularly enthusiastic about. It seems like a way to make some cash between albums (not that they need it -- how many copies did _Superunknown_ sell?), and I would further suspect that it was Susan Silver's idea, much as, I believe, the official website was her idea. The Web and multimedia are extremely trendy right now, and these recent endeavors seem like an attempt to milk the cash cow. Their attempts in both of these areas are not much more than average -- had they done something truly stunning with either, maybe it would have been worthwhile. Sure, it seemed appropriate for Billy Idol to release _Cyberpunk_ as a CD-ROM, but Soundgarden? Chris said during the AOL session that they're musicians first and foremost. I don't know about you, but I could have waited another few months for a new studio album -- the CD+ was unnecessary. Flame away. seth ------------------------------ Subject: new ep (i think) From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (Nancy E Phend) Well I bought the CD-plus, got the only one at the store. Tried a few things and it seems to work ok. The music is a little choppy sounding though. Someone asked if they had released a new EP. I found one that I had never seen before. It is called 'Songs From The Superunknown'. It has 5 tracks: Superunknown-LP version 5:06 Fell on Black Days-Video version 5:26 She Likes Surprises-International LP version 3:17 Like Suicide-Acoustic version 6:11 Jerry Garcia's Finger 4:00 It was only $6.99! nephend ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Sorry I'm posting to the list a lot today, sorry about that ;) But that whole edited transcript-America OnLine business is bothering the hell out of me. I mean, they're LYING to us. They can't stand the fact that people think the unofficial web page is better than the official, so they glamored up the transcript to make it look like no one said that.. but I know, and you know, and anyone who was there last Wednesday knows, and anyone who has a log file of it knows that the SPINmc said that Seth's web page is better than the official web page. And I totally agree! Here's why whenever I do my Web browsing and it asks for a URL, I type http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden instead of http://rocktropolis.com/soundgarden.. Because to people with Text-only browsers, the official Web site is useless. (no text, can't download anything) On Seth's page, you can download cool gifs of Soundgarden, and get info on lyrics, tab, articles and bootlegs (Like the official site would have bootlegs... But you and I know that bootlegs are cool, so I prefer Seth's page.) The no-text thing is a huge issue to me, since I'm running a 386sx/20 with 2mb ram, so running something like Netscape on here would be a pure miracle. I'm stuck with Telix for my Web browsing. Anyone else? Come on, I CAN'T be the ONLY person on the list with a shitty computer. (I did look at both unofficial and official pages with AOL one time, on a friend's computer.. a long time ago... and I have to say Seth's page is a lot less confusing.) The unofficial page has a whole hell of a lot more information, unless the official page has something new.. Hope not, cuz I sure as hell can't get to it. The official page doesn't have a wonderful MAILING LIST! HA! I dunno, when I was referring to "they" in the beginning of this dumb letter, I don't think I was referring to Soundgarden.. hell, they're most likely too drunk to give a rat's ass about the Web page. I'm sure they care more about writing a good song than a lil pretty thing on the computer. I was probably referring to Silver Management. ;) Heheh, sorry Susan.. heheh ;) I don't know why she is so upset over something like that. She should be PROUD that Seth is representing Soundgarden on the internet in such a wonderful way. She should give all the money to Seth's page, not the official one... heheheh.. ;) Ok, I'm done ranting.. sorry to clutter up your mailbox.. anyone else? ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Sorry From: seth Hey, quit it, I'm getting embarrassed over here. Keep in mind one thing, though -- the fact that you contributed to the page means that it is not "Seth's page." The page belongs to everyone (except Silver Management). seth ------------------------------ From: stolen.prayers@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Seedy Plus Flame?? Nah.. When you put it in terms like that, it sounds right... I mean, a CD plus? That's not Soundgarden! Come to think of it... They probably don't have the first idea of how to turn a computer on. I remember I'd get letters from sgkots@aol.com, and THE WHOLE THINGS WOULD BE IN CAPS! JUST LIKE THIS! I can't imagine Chris Cornell or any of them Soundgarden people in front of a computer. Sure, I did buy it, but I haven't gotten to test it out really.. no cd rom ;( But I looked at the pictures in the insert and it looks cool. I was really excited to hear Jerry Garcia's Finger.. eheheh... But your letter made me think... hmmmm... Computer? Soundgarden? that's like a tuna fish and jelly sandwich. ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: soundgarden I'd like to know about that FOPP thing too. I've played Road Rash at a computer store a few times, but there was no music. I do know that Kickstand was supposed to be on that game. I don't know about any other songs. Kickstand for sure. Later. >>>-------------------------------> Geoff Kleemola gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca U of Winnipeg Psychology student <-------------------------------<<< ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: fav place to listen On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Alison Mugford wrote: > I'm totally new to this list, so please forgive me if I say anything stupid > about stuff I have missed. I guess I'll start with my most favourite place > to listen to Soundgarden. Besides super loud in a car on the highway, or > blaring when I finally roll out of bed at two o'clock on a Saturday > afternoon, my favourite, or should I say coolest, listening experience was > during one of my frosh week activities (last year). All of the frosh were > hanging around outside on this huge playing field and there were these huge > speakers so that everybody could hear. Anyway, they play Black Hole Sun and > everybody was just standing around singing and grooving away. It was really > cool, like everybody was entranced by this wave of Soundgarden. That's the > loudest I've ever heard it (never been to a concert of theirs yet, even > though I'm from Toronto) and it was just amazing to be part of so many > people being really into it all at once. Oh yeah, and listening to it during > sex is pretty great too, Chris' voice just does it to me. > > Alie University of Western Ontario, Canada > >I would have to agree that listening to Soundgarden during sex is the best ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It works for me! lee ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: soundgarden Road Rash was a real disappointment. There wasn't even any music while you played. I thought that the SG songs would be blaring while you're flying down the track. Don't buy this game. On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Geoff Kleemola wrote: > I'd like to know about that FOPP thing too. I've played Road Rash at a > computer store a few times, but there was no music. I do know that > Kickstand was supposed to be on that game. I don't know about any other > songs. Kickstand for sure. Later. > > >>>-------------------------------> > Geoff Kleemola > gkleemol@io.uwinnipeg.ca > U of Winnipeg Psychology student > <-------------------------------<<< > > ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena I was just wondering if anyone out there recieved a SG and AIC fan club letter. I never sent away for it and it just came. Do you think the "enemy" is trying to suck us out of this better post into hers? It just says all the same stupid stuff the offical site says. Just wondering... ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: sittin' on the dock of the bay...:) On Mon, 20 Nov 1995, seth wrote: > It was a peaceful time, the conversation revolving almost exclusively > around -- believe it or not -- Soundgarden. I was just looking at the > archive...any of you old-timers want to reflect on how the list has > changed since its inception? the quality of conversation seems to have dropped off a little over the last month or so imho. contrary to just about everyone else's view, I didn't mind the genuine additions to the soundgarden vs. pearl jam debate. there's a lot more guitar tab stuff now (even though it doesn't interest me, it is cool), and of course more traffic on the cd+ thread. but I'm a little more partial to the early threads, like whether soundgarden was pop and what the lyrics to some songs meant. we seem to have acquired some sort of reputation as a house of flame, and I'm not sure that it's warranted. especially if you compare us to any newsgroup that contains a bunch of differing views. actually, the last flame was for that guy that felt you were a bitch list admin, wasn't it seth? :) but back to the topic. I think that if we can all find something to talk about for another three months, we'll have a new album to talk about :) I do have one small request though: if you don't like a thread, and you think that it has been going for too long or is too boring or isn't relevant anymore and never was, don't just write in saying that. I think that we'd all like to be as creative as possible, so throwing shit at one topic and not offering up an alternative just seems to me to be a waste of time. so if you don't like it (and nobody could possibly be interested in every single post that comes through here :), then delete it or suggest something a bit more interesting. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: morning is dead and the day is too... On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, ward brandon t wrote: > I purchased an import single of "Fell on Black Days" over the summer, and > I must say that I highly recommend it to anyone with an interest in > seeing what the song was like before Michael Beinhorn influenced the guys > in SG to change it. The demo version that is on the cd is a rather heavy I read that the version on that take was way different to the final cut because it was a *very* early demo of fobd. chris showed the song to the band, and ben changed the bass line, giving the song an entire different feel. I agree with you that the lyrics are cool, as is the whole song itself. funny how only the chorus of the demo is the only part of the song that resembles any part of the final version. I also read that fobd was kind of an old song, and the band wouldn't have been able to handle the 'pop' arrangement of the original demo. > all the words out there, please mail me, or mail me anyway if you just try the soundgarden homepage, or better yet, try http://student.uq.edu.au/~s327857 (shameless plug for a homepage that is nowhere near finished :), and go to the links page. because I just can't remember the url for seth's site (sorry, *our* site). ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: so we aren't the chosen? On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, seth wrote: > Now, according to the official transcript, SPINmc said: > ...The official site is still under construction and will > supposedly rock once it is finished. Tak a look at that over at > http://Rocktropolis.com/Soundgarden/. > It seems that someone affiliated with Soundgarden (Silver Management, > perhaps?) exercised final editing authority and made SPIN alter the > truth before making the transcript public. Very interesting (to me, at > least), indeed. very interesting to all of us, seth. looks like the editor had a couple of soundgarden thugs/kneecap men standing around him at the final typeset, eh? or maybe susan was going to refuse any further interviews for spin when the new album comes out? I don't think that the guys from the band would have given two shits what some small spin online article had to say in it's dying stages, let alone something regarding such a peripheral thing as an official web page. I mean what kind of percentage of people who buy their albums currently have access to the web? but the underhandedness is obvious, and it probably came from silver management or a guilty pairing of the online dj and the editor. but have no fear, because we all know the truth, don't we guys and gals? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: entering the screaming life On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Steven Russell Jr. wrote: > I vaguely remember someone mentioning something about the SG song on the > _Screaming Life_ compilation CD. There was confusion about the name loud > love. Loud Love is the music publishing company that (i believe) controls > the rights to the song. So, the only SG song on the compilation is > "Entering". btw: I highly suggest you pick a copy of the book up for > christmas...It's really outstanding. littlejoe and I won a copy each off addicted to noise last week, and we'll be watching our mailboxes intently :) how much did it cost you steve? and could you mail me the cd tracklisting too? anyone else bought the book, because I'm interested in hearing about it (if only to raise the salivation rate :) > It makes you think just HOW much MONEY! susan silver pumped into the > official web site? You know that it had to be substantial for her to act > like this. I'm surprised you havent received copyright threats yet! I've > got this strange feeling that she feels we're the enemy. if we are the enemy, then we've got to be the most loyal enemies any band has ever owned! we all buy the records, we all go and see them live, and some of us even get to record stores before they open to buy cd+ releases and scour record catalogues for singles and exorbitant bootlegs. bands must love to have enemies like us :) but it probably was management that demanded a 'correction', if not susan then some other flunky. the band was acting so jokey that they probably don't care what the hell was said. > really was writing about chris and the band in the song "Generation > Spokesmodel"? If you've never heard the song...I suggest you buy or borrow nahh, that's probably about courtney love or eddie vedder. if soundgarden were a generational spokesmodel, we'd all hide in our houses, never come out into the sun, act depressed and every fourth guy would grow a big beard :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: Re: Soundgarden and beer On 21st of Nov, Sean wrote: >favourite place to listen to Soundgarden In the kitchen, doing last night's dishes. My kitchen has way cool acoustics, the sound just bounces around off the cupboards, the fridge, the lino floor, amplifies in the water-filled sink and resonates through the greasy plates and sticky glasses. It's really cool when the forks start to twist themselves to the sound of "She likes surprises". David the home maker. ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Re: CD Plus Add me to the list of disgruntled Soundgarden fans. My CD-rom is about 8 months old and it doesn't even see the CD when I put it in. So I'm really screwed!!! Any suggestions from any of you computer whizzes???? And in answer to Matt Yes, there is an EP. I saw it today for $5.99. at an independant record store. I had to go there because Best Buy didn't even have Alive in the Superunknown at noon! I called a friend who has a 2 week old computer and he says I can come over tommorrow and check it out!!!! Who the hell says patience is a virtue????? ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: the cd+: is it a minus? On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, seth wrote: > I don't think there was really any reason to release the CD+. It's not > something I view as a "Soundgarden thing to do." It's not at all money and record contracts were probably the reasons. money for the band and maybe some sort of contratual obligation or company push would have made it hard to say no. my guess also, (as many of you would have read in some of my earlier posts, and aren't holidays a wonderful thing?) is that susan may have had chris, and thus the band, by the short hairs. they probably just wanted a meaningless (to them) diversion from the studio, and susan steered them in the online direction. > seem like an attempt to milk the cash cow. Their attempts in both of > these areas are not much more than average -- had they done something > truly stunning with either, maybe it would have been worthwhile. Sure, not having seen the cd+ (unless joe forks out the dough), I can't really comment on their newest release. but the web page is kinda cool (with all deference to the coolest unofficial site on the web and earlier debates with jamie), in that it may become a good resource of immediate information on the band that neither seth nor any of us have access to. I think that most of the images are good, but having said that, text-only browsers really get the short end of the stick from the soundgarden arm of rocktropolis (like the one I'm on at the moment). > Chris said during the AOL session that they're musicians first and > foremost. I don't know about you, but I could have waited another few > months for a new studio album -- the CD+ was unnecessary. mind your mother if it makes you feel at ease...(I'm listening to bmf at the moment), but don't discount the cd+ entirely. I think it may have been worthwhile, in that we can all look back on it and say: gee, wasn't their second one ten times better?! I do agree, however, that as a music listener first and foremost, I would have preferred a new soundgarden opus in my christmas stocking too. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 21 Nov 1995 On 21st of Nov 1995 Jamesetta wrote: > Subject: Re: CD Plus > From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) > > >Isn't there supposed to be like NEW music on the CD+? Like a 40-minute > >jam or whatever? Cuz I have those four songs and I'm not gonna buy it if > >it doesn't have any new music on it, cuz I don't have a cd rom :( Or is > >that this hidden track yer talking about? Try it in a normal cd > >player... Did you see the EP version of it by any chance? > >Stolen Prayers I don't have a CD ROM either. Is it worth us backwards cavepeople buying the disk if we don't have a CD ROM? David the worried caveman. --- On 21st of Nov Kylie wrote: > From: Kylie Hayes > Subject: Soundgarden/Australia?? > > Anyone heard of any plans for Soundgarden to tour Australia?? > > Kyl Oh, don't say things like that. My head nearly exploded with excitement!! PLEASE let it be true. David the enthusiastic caveman. --- On 21st of Nov, Seth wrote: > Now, according to the official transcript, SPINmc said: > > ...The official site is still under construction and will > supposedly rock once it is finished. Tak a look at that over at > http://Rocktropolis.com/Soundgarden/. > > It seems that someone affiliated with Soundgarden (Silver Management, > perhaps?) exercised final editing authority and made SPIN alter the > truth before making the transcript public. Very interesting (to me, at > least), indeed. They WHAT???? BASTARDS! How the fuck do we trust them not to doctor what the guys from SG themselves said? WHAT BULLSHIT. ARGHH!! FUQERACTOPISTFAXERDIKKED!!!! David the PISSED caveman! BTW, it is OK if I say 'fuck',isn't it? ------------------------------ From: Chris Mackenzie Subject: Susan Silver = Yoko Ono? After reading all of these messages about Susan Silver Management. I kept getting the idea that Susan Silver is to Soundgarden as Yoko Ono was to the Beatles. I know Susan Silver has been with SG from the start but this is just the way the attitude of the SOMMS list seems toward her. Has anyone else noticed this? ------------------------------ From: swr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven Russell Jr.) Subject: Re: entering the screaming life >On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, Steven Russell Jr. wrote: > > littlejoe and I won a copy each off addicted to noise last week, >and we'll be watching our mailboxes intently :) how much did it cost you >steve? and could you mail me the cd tracklisting too? anyone else >bought the book, because I'm interested in hearing about it (if only to >raise the salivation rate :) I too won a copy from addicted to noise. It's retailing for $35 bucks here. Which is pretty steap considering how thin the book is...but the content is excellent! If you can appreciate great photography...this is the book for you. 1. green river - aint nothing to do mudhoney - no one has nirvana - negative creep tad - ritual device soundgarden - entering screaming trees - flashes beat happening - midnight a go-go seaweed - selfish fastbacks - what's it like >> It makes you think just HOW much MONEY! susan silver pumped into the >> official web site? You know that it had to be substantial for her to act >> like this. I'm surprised you havent received copyright threats yet! I've >> got this strange feeling that she feels we're the enemy. > > if we are the enemy, then we've got to be the most loyal enemies >any band has ever owned! we all buy the records, we all go and see them >live, and some of us even get to record stores before they open to buy >cd+ releases and scour record catalogues for singles and exorbitant >bootlegs. bands must love to have enemies like us :) but it probably >was management that demanded a 'correction', if not susan then some other >flunky. the band was acting so jokey that they probably don't care what >the hell was said. I was refering to seth and the contributors to the web page (about 20? people total?). They've pumped in some money for an excellent web site...and they've been hearing rumblings that it isnt good enough....so they are doing MAJOR damage control. It just so happens that they are doing damage control in our world. So most of us know what's really going on. >> really was writing about chris and the band in the song "Generation >> Spokesmodel"? If you've never heard the song...I suggest you buy or borrow > > nahh, that's probably about courtney love or eddie vedder. if >soundgarden were a generational spokesmodel, we'd all hide in our houses, >never come out into the sun, act depressed and every fourth guy would >grow a big beard :) I read something somewhere where he said the song was written after he "saw"? a soundgarden video, or magazine cover or something like that. It does seem that this new image the boys are portraying does sorta (in a wierd way) fit the song. "hey kids...how do I look on the cover of SPIN". We will just have to see what the hype machine does with the bands new studio album. Will they try to become the biggest band in the world with the music or with the image. steve "you look like you've been losing sleep", said the stranger on a train I fixed him with an ice-cold stare and said "I've been having those dreams again" - Swervedriver ------------------------------ Subject: black hole web From: seth i couldn't resist putting my schoolwork off just a bit longer, so i went over to my office (home of my scanner) and scanned some more images for the web page. now available: jesus christ pose postcard (posecard?) black hole sun single covers (us and uk versions) spoonman single cover superuninterview cover alive in the superunknown cover songs from the superunknown cover some of my originals are kind of crappy (i think my friend used the jesus christ posecard as a bookmark for a long time)...but such is life. enjoy (please). seth ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: so we aren't the chosen? On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, blind dog wrote: > underhandedness is obvious, and it probably came from silver management > or a guilty pairing of the online dj and the editor. but have no fear, > because we all know the truth, don't we guys and gals? Yeah, *we* do, but what about web newbies and others not on this list or not on the Spin thing. Say they are huge sg fans and read the transcript. Right then a misjustice is done by the misrepresented statements. And if there us no mention of uh, our, page, how will people looking to that for info find out about our wonderful mailing list? Well i know this is not a very linear paragraph, but i'm going home tomorrow and i can't concentrate. -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: everything I've shown is what I feel... just a couple of quick notes on the spin online conversation: 1. the whole thing seems to read like a big advertisment; 2. chris and kim sidestepped the new album question very deftly. I wonder if their answers were doctored at all before they appeared on-screen? noone wants to know about the cd+, we want *music*. 'what is your new album like and when does it come out' does not mean 'tell us more about the cd+ please' :( 3. for jamie, the crack about females came after a pretty inane question where they were asked if they are really a big macho/sexist bunch of so-and-so's. which means that you can probably disregard what they said about the action figures. have a read of it. 4. while this is a cool idea, I would have preferred if they were spending their time mastering their next record ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: so we aren't the chosen? On Tue, 21 Nov 1995, He Who Walks Between wrote: > Yeah, *we* do, but what about web newbies and others not on this list or > not on the Spin thing. Say they are huge sg fans and read the > transcript. Right then a misjustice is done by the misrepresented > statements. And if there us no mention of uh, our, page, how will people > looking to that for info find out about our wonderful mailing list? Well all they have to do is read the transcript on the unofficial page. then they will understand. seth's page is still the bigger page of the two, and we are gonna keep it that way. just send the newbies to the list and we'll set 'em straight :) ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: bwalsh Subject: money grab? so I understand that many of you have trampled/ will overcome all obstacles to get your sweaty hands on a copy of the cd+...hmmm. I was just wondering what sort of gimmick this is. I think I read in today's digest that $20 is the going price for this extraordinary venture into the "world of digital, interactive, cutting-edge, foaming-at-the-mouth, multimedia excitement". (that was industry lingo, btw) it occurred to me, after wiping your saliva from my monitor, that we're all being ripped off. think about it. how much does it cost to manufacture a plastic cd? consider the millions used by one label, i.e. a&m. does the price you pay justify what you receive? think about the amount of data that could be stored on a cd, especially with compression techniques...they could put every track ever recorded (legitamately) on this disc, some or all liner notes and photos, cooking with chris cornell, even a short film clip of the band shitting in unison... guitar tab...should i rant on?(probably not) at any rate, I'm sure the enthusiasm reflected in this list also exists in the real world (i.e. those people who do not subscribe to the list) just imagine the change...I'm not trying to slag the band, but I think that fans are a prime target of music industry dicks who jump on technology as a way to make some cash. as much as everyone would like to believe their favorite musician is an artiste, I would have to go out on a limb and suggest that they don't tear up their paychecks... I just think that the label, and the band, could have added much more to this disc for a similar price if people demanded it. I have a great love for sg and I think they're one of the most talented and underrated bands in existence, but I don't know about this whole cd+ thing.. (hey, this is a fucking long post, I'm really sorry you were forced to read/scroll through it. I'm off this couch..........) B., the sceptical sg fan who wants it all on one disc for $25 :) ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: RE: Susan Silver = Yoko Ono? On Wed, 22 Nov 1995, Kylie Hayes wrote: > >After reading all of these messages about Susan Silver Management. I > >kept getting the idea that Susan Silver is to Soundgarden as Yoko Ono was > >to the Beatles. I know Susan Silver has been with SG from the start but > >this is just the way the attitude of the SOMMS list seems toward her. > >Has anyone else noticed this? > > Jeez I dunno whether you should be so judgemental.... Maybe, maybe not. They are obviously > keeping her as management for a reason, she does a good job! I'll buy that. So what if > she's married to Chris Cornell, it shouldn't be relevant. agreed. What should > matter is the music, and I severly doubt she's going to change that. No, i seriously doubt that, but to me and i hope many other people as well the truth matters and it looks like she's trying to change that.... - -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: S0undgardn@aol.com Subject: Re: money grab? I just wanted to know if anyone has been able to get the cd+ to worK? I rushed out and bought the thing and it doesn't even work. If anyone has been able to get it work please write me. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: money grab? From: seth > how much does it cost to manufacture a plastic cd? consider the millions > used by one label, i.e. a&m. does the price you pay justify what you receive? > think about the amount of data that could be stored on a cd, especially > with compression techniques...they could put every track ever recorded > (legitamately) on this disc, some or all liner notes and photos, cooking > with chris cornell, even a short film clip of the band shitting in unison... > guitar tab...should i rant on?(probably not) i'm not quite sure they could realistically put _that_ much on one disc. with current mainstream cd-burning techniques, the maximum is still 75 minutes of audio or 660MB of data. if they were to use the newest technologies (i.e., blue lasers) they could cram 10 times that amount onto a single disc, but it would probably cost a whole lot more than $20. i would agree, though, that they could have made an effort to include some more useful information, such as accurate lyrics (the official website people keep telling me that they will be adding the lyrics soon) and guitar tabs -- perhaps soundgarden-themed accessories for your Mac or Windows-based PC? a soundgarden _game_, though, is enirely useless -- and a waste of space that could have been applied to something far more appealing...like, for example, an audio track not available anywhere else, in place of "superunknown." the other thing that bothers me is that the high price does not warrant the tiny amount of effort A&M seems to be expending to promote the CD+. i've not seen a magazine advertisement, a poster in a record store, or anything -- except the small bit about it on the official website and the advertising in spinonline on aol. when i went to tower records last night to buy the disc, there were camera crews waiting for the unveiling of the rack of beatles cds -- and not a soul in the place had ever heard of a new soundgarden release. i finally found it in hmv -- instead of going on a "new release" rack, it went straight from the stockroom to the "soundgarden" section in "rock/pop." $20 sure is a high price tag for something that seems utterly unimportant to anyone affiliated with the band and what is just "a fun teen thing to do" to the band itself. > I have a great love for sg and I think they're one of the most talented > and underrated bands in existence, but I don't know about this whole cd+ > thing.. agreed... seth ------------------------------ From: Kylie Hayes Subject: RE: Susan Silver = Yoko Ono? ---------- >From: Chris Mackenzie >To: somms >Subject: Susan Silver = Yoko Ono? >Date: Tuesday, 21 November 1995 7:09PM > >After reading all of these messages about Susan Silver Management. I >kept getting the idea that Susan Silver is to Soundgarden as Yoko Ono was >to the Beatles. I know Susan Silver has been with SG from the start but >this is just the way the attitude of the SOMMS list seems toward her. >Has anyone else noticed this? Jeez I dunno whether you should be so judgemental.... They are obviously keeping her as management for a reason, she does a good job! So what if she's married to Chris Cornell, it shouldn't be relevant. What should matter is the music, and I severly doubt she's going to change that. Kyl > ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 108] ****************************************