From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 17 Nov 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 17 Nov 1995 04:01:14 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 17 Nov 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... Re: Pearl Spam QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM! Can I have your autograph?? Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... who is the source Re: Temple Of The Dog Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 15 Nov 1995 Re: SG vs. PJ Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 15 Nov 1995 Re: Another question. Re: SG vs. PJ SG vs PJ Hi. Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... Re: SG vs. PJ Re: Temple Of The Dog Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... The first and the last... I hope MotorVision SG on the brain! Re: hello Stop Arguing!! Re: AOL Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... Re: who is the source RE: The first and the last... I hope Explanation why Pearl Jam sucks cock. (fwd) Re: who is the source Re: Stop Arguing!! Re: Explanation why Pearl Jam sucks cock. Re: Hi. Re: (fwd) Re: who is the source Re: SG vs. PJ Re: Explanation why Pearl Jam sucks cock. Re: Another question. SG on imusic.com Re: SG on imusic.com Re: Pearl Spam sg v pj Re: sg v pj Pearl Garden lead singers Re: sg v pj Re: sg v pj 3 faves? Re: AOL Re: Pearl Garden Re: 3 faves? God!!!! ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) As I have told my good friend Jackhammer "I don't usually rock the boat, I just tip it over when climbing in". Well, I have a change of clothes ready and I'm about to get wet. The Spin on-line last night - word like "suck", "shitty", "lame", "insulating", and "boring" come to mind. Seeing as I "WAS" one of the female fans of the member of Soundgarden (I still love the music and always will), they can take their headless female fan doll and put it right where the Black Hole Sun doesn't shines. I will not debate the reasoning behind SG analogy of a female fan - anyway you look at it, it smelled of pig. Okay, maybe the question presented to them were worthless - Can we say "This is Cool" - and who was doing the typing. If it was (and you know it wasn't) Chris or Kim, I could see the slow response or did it really take SG that long to think up a cute answer. It would have gone down better if they had been asked just questions about the CD+. But ever time they move to another area - stupidity can forth. We all can be happy now knowing Chris listens to his Mother, their taste in beer is what ever someone buys for them. They (SG) like GNR, listen to P J Harvey, Filter, and TPOTUSOA (Carolyn I don't know if that means we have good taste or not), at lease this was a worthy question. And we all should be totally thrilled that we (cyber-geeks) are a teen thing. For you out there that are between the ages of 13 - 19, your doing fine. The rest of us - I guess trying to advance technically, bring the world into your hands, communicating, and expanding your understanding of other people by using the Internet is just a big waste of time. Use the phone people - SG want us to pick up the phone and dial. Well excuse me, but I must pay my rent and calling my Aussie friends would put a big dent in my budget. Sorry we all can't be filthy rich like you guys in the band. I will now apologies to AOL, for the string of nasty words I spit out at the beginning of the AOL crash. I'm sorry, I forgot that if a system is going to fuck with you - it will do it at the worst possible time. I'm been on this side of the fence to many times - I should have taken a deep breath and remember all the times I had stood where you were. To Soundgarden - from a headless female fan doing a teen thing - try using your mouth and brain only for the music, your doing fine there. But keep them close when walking in the real world. To Seth - Did you promise Steve you get his picture on the members page. Sorry low shot, when I'm tick I tend to take down every thing that gets in my way. You deserve the acknowledgment. It was one small spot of light in last nights dark hole. To the SG mailing list membership - Don't cry if you missed it, missing nothing is just missing nothing. Chris and Kim are not Gods, they are just talented musicians. Now get your guns on and fire at will, I have my suit of armory back on. I'm in the water and have sunk to the bottom, you can't reach me... Jamie ------------------------------ From: "Eric G. Lanning" Subject: Re: Pearl Spam Of course Dan, if you remember, and I think you do, the highlight of the PJ Chrisler Arena show was when Eddie mentioned Superunknown as something everyone should get. That ALMOST made up for Grant Lee Buffalo, and their silver cowboy boots. YEE-HAW! Eric On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Kelly Christa Jones wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 14 Nov 1995, James A Sellers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Pearl Jam sucks cock. It is the most boring band I have ever heard. There > > > > lyrics and melodies are boring and cliched. Soundgarden do a thousand > > > > times more interesting and musically challenging things in their songs > > > > than Vedder and the crew could ever dream of. Pearl Jam is the arena-rock > > > > "Steve Miller Band" of the 90's. > > > > > > > > > > > mr. sellers, you are my hero. i thought i was the only one who thought > > > that pearl jam really sucked. they're sell-outs too. eddie's whole "don't > > > pay attention to me" thing only drew more attention to himself, plus > > > their music doesn't have nearly what it did on ten (i seem to recognize > > > your face? spin the black what?) > > > > > Ok, I like SG better, but Pearl Jam isn't -that- bad. True, I did like > > PJ better before they were huge, but I don't think they sold out. But > > what really pissed me off about PJ was that they didn't seem to want to > > realize that they had a huge fan base after Ten. I wanted to see them > > really bad a few years ago in Cleveland, but they played the CSU > > Convocation Center. They sold out in, like, 18 minutes and they didn't > > even announce it until one hour before they went on sale. I really > > wished they would've played a bigger place or did 2 nights or something. > > Then I come to find out that stupid jock/assholes got tickets because > > they liked Jeremy. Whatever. > > > > > even just after ten came out, i was never a really big fan. i got lucky > when they came to play crisler arena here at UM, and i got hold of enough > tickets to -ahem- make a little profit, so i went. they were great live. > they only played like two songs i didn't like, and then a few days later > they did that live radio broadcast which i also thought was really cool. > then they came out with versus and whatever that other album is called, > trilogy or whatever. vitalogy. i hated both of them. i guess i didn't > really mean sell out in the classic sense, but they didn't remain true to > their fan base, just like you said. they changed their music style. > actually, they kind of went the way of guns 'n' roses in an abstract > sense. very abstract. what i mean to say is that it was kind of like > eddie lost his anger, and starting writing about vinyl records and pellet > guns and stuff. axl did the same thing. GNR used to be really awesome > live, but if you compare concerts then and now, axl went from totally > pissed off (which is cool) to a pompous ass. see the similarity? then > eddie goes and complains about his fame. didn't george michael do that a > few years ago? i have never heard chris complain about his fame, on > either side of the coin. and he still sounds pissed off > ------------------------------ From: S02263@grog.ric.edu Subject: QWERTYUIOPASDFGHJKLZXCVBNM! HEY, how's everyone?- ok, so i haven't been paying attention- anything new to be released or anything? that spin mention was pretty damn cool! congratulations and all that good stuff (i spelled "congrat's " wrong, didn't i- oh well) ok, enough wasted space- see y'all later- C ps- just got into this place- the tab is great!!!- need any help? ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Can I have your autograph?? Seth,now the world knows what we all have known for a while. Your Soundgarden page is the BEST!!!! The AOL thing was fun. No great revalations but entertaining! Tell Ms Silver to chill. Maybe her official Web page guys could take a few lessons from you and the Soundgarden fans out here. I guess I'm dense DanaBT. I didn't have a clue that the guest was Hiro Duh?!? I don't think our boys are going to be getting any awards from the National Organzation for Woman anytime soon!! ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... sorry Jamie... I know the real fans would have asked some good questions, but it seemed that the morons (excluding steve and seth) were there and they asked somestupid questions. And Soundgarden obliged with stupid answers. I'm sorry, but they probably thought of the whole thing as a joke. They do have a weird sense of humor. - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "When a man lies he murders "Leslie's coughing up blood Some part of the world can't breath the wind These are the pale deaths which can't drink the flood Men miscall their lives Leslie's coughing up blood now" All this i cannot bear - Truly To witness any longer Cannot the kingdom of salvation Take me home" - C. Burton ------------------------------ From: Patrick_Mulvany@BAYLOR.EDU Subject: who is the source With all this talk about Pearl Jam and Soundgarden, its clear that they are headed in different directions. So as a question for discussion, who is the main creative force in Soundgarden? ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: Temple Of The Dog I went out and bought TOTD on the day it was released (no this isn't some elitist "I had it before you" post) cause I had read about the merger of Soundgarden and Mother Love Bone (this was Pre-Pearl Jam). I immediately fell in love with the CD. this whole thing climaxed when on Lollapalooza 92, eddie was on the side stage, jusr after the Jim Rose Circus, and did a couple of solo acoustic songs. After the second song, Chris Cornell came out and the two did Hunger Strike with just the two of them and Eddie on guitar. Due to being under the influence of some severe halucinogens, the result was an almost magical experience to me. BTW this was the show at Alpine Valley in Wisconsin if anyone else was there. At Alpine Vallley it is considered an honor if the grass gets torn up while a band is playing. When Soundgarden kicked into Slaves and Bulldozers the chunks of sod were flying. It was ten times worse than the mud slinging during Gree Day at Woodstock. Was anyone else out there at this show. Iread somewhere that Chris said it was one of the best shows they had ever played as far as the crowd being into it. BK ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Limo Wreck wrote: > I'm sorry, >> but they probably thought of the whole thing as a joke. They do have a weird >> sense of humor. > >Jamie, what he said. Take some of those comments a little more >lightly, ok? Please? I mean i'm sure that the boys were just having >fun. No, I don't thing their statement was funny. I don't think being referred to as headless i.e., brainless, nothing, stupid, and views as just T&A as being funny. To be fair I let several women in my office (aging from 25 - 57) read the comments. I gave them the whole question not just SG answer. Not one of them read it as anything but sexiest. > Think about it, how would you reply to stupid ?'s? And if you >had heard stupid ?'s all along, wouldn't you become a little less >serious when it came to the good questions? Take it a little bit >easier on the boys. They never did claim to be gods. I never said that they were saying they were gods. I was telling the member's on this list that always proclaim them as such, that it was not so. They are just human beings, just like everyone else. Maybe they are more talented, but that gives them no more right to make crude statement as it does anyone else. >Maybe that's >just the after effects of glam rock on your psyche! But, come on, >they shouldn't open their mouths in the real world? "Excuse me, you >make excellent music, therefore only express your ideas in your music >and don't say anything in the real world because you, like every one >else, are not gods, but since you do make excellent music, you are >not allowed to be normal in public" See what i mean? No, being sexiest is not NORMAL. I though SG was a part of the group that is fighting the problem of rape and killings on the streets of Seattle. A statement of this type does not help the problem. And they should know better. Try walking in a women shoes for a few days and see if a comment like this one doesn't make you feel just great about yourself. No one, not rock star, politician, movies star, business tycoon, or every day man on the street has the right to say shit like that. And being in the spot light make it all the more important that you don't say them. Look can't you see how hard it is for me to hear Chris say ugly things like that. I have always envision him as a kind and caring man. His songs always touch and move me. Then to have him make such a hurtful statement. It was a hard hit at my heart. I'm sorry as a man you can not see that. Jamie ------------------------------ From: Laura Klief Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 15 Nov 1995 I agree with you. The two bands together would be outstanding!!!! I wonder if that would ever happen though?!?!?!?!?!?!? On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Erica Leigh Bankston wrote: > I personally think that Soundgarden and Pearl Jam together would rock the > world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > ------------------------------ From: Laura Klief Subject: Re: SG vs. PJ I agree, this could go on forever and propally will!!! I prefer Chicken Fajitas!!!!! On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Greg Bensimon wrote: > OK. I now have enough "My $.02" messages in my inbox to buy that new > Pentium I wanted for Christmas. It's obvious there are a lot of people who > like PJ out there, and there are a lot of people who think they suck various > body appendages... > > Personally, I think it's time to move on to another subject. Please, can we > drop this thread and move on to something else? Maybe something like > Chicken Fajitas vs. Bean Burritos or something... > > Greg > > > ****************************************** > *** Sieze the day. *** > *** Pull the trigger. Drop the blade. *** > *** And watch the rolling heads. *** > ****************************************** > *** greg@sfa.com *** > ****************************************** > > > ------------------------------ From: Ethan Hennessey Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 15 Nov 1995 Not trying to be nit-picky here, but Skin Yard was around for quite a while after Matt Cameron left the band. - -----Ethan On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > > >Take an English class and a typing class. It would be greatly > >appreciated! And by the way, Pearl Jam does not stink. If it wasn't for > >some of the members of Pearl Jam, there would not be a Soundgarden > >today. So you better rethink your views!! > Soundgarden was formed in 1983, and Soundgarden would have been > soundgarden ragardless of weather or not Pearl Jam was ever formed. > I think soundgarden owes more to Skinyard breaking up so they could > get Matt Cameron as a drummer then they do to Pearl Jam. Soundgarden > has survived through various Pearl Jam incarnations, Green River, > Mother Love Bone , Mookie Blaylock and Finally Pearl Jam. Soundgarden > had already released 2 Ep's and Two Lp's gone on an a world tour been > nominated for a grammy and had a record certified gold. Before Mr > vedder decided to stop fighting earthquakes and move to seattle. In > fact when Temple of the dog was recorded Pearl Jam had not evern > recorded Ten yet. I don't think that they even had a record deal. > Lastly this list is not full of Bhs top fourty kids who would eat shit > if so ordered by Chris Cornell the people on this list love > soundgarden and they're music. They are not going to start endorsing > Pearl Jam just because Matt and Jeff Ament are seen bowling together > some friday night. I cannot stand Pearl Jam, I found them boring and > eddie vedder overly pretentious, and I do think his songs are kind of > cliched. I do love soundgarden and even if Chris has listned to Pearl > Jam nonstop since the ten days, I am not going to listen to them. > Clown > ------------------------------ From: Ethan Hennessey Subject: Re: Another question. On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Krissy wrote: > >Ok, with 400 people on this list, i'm pretty sure i'm not the only one > >who liked sg before Badmotorfinger, not that that is terribly important, > >but in my following question, it is. Does anybody have any SG t-shirts > >that are pre-BMF? and also, if you have any ideas > >where i could possibly find one of these, let me know!!!!! > > >aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist > >aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! > >***************************************************************************** > >"I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden > >"Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement > > > Hey... > I own a black Louder than Love T-shirt that has the album cover on > the front in black, white and yellow. On the back it says LOUDER THAN @#!* > (I didn't censor the message, that's what it says :)) I've also seen one > or two other pre-Badmotorfinger T-shirts but it was a few years back. My > friend had a white one that said SOUNDGARDEN around the bottom edge in > black and it had that old design on it that looks kind of like an "s"...oh, > it's too hard to explain! > I found my LTL shirt in a record store in '92. > Krissy > > > I'm still kicking myself for not picking up one of those when I saw them at the Seattle Center in '90. And to make matters worse, my super-cool European shirt from the last tour (I caught them in Munich in April 94) got ripped off 3 days aafter the show, while I was traveling. AAAAUUUUGGGHHH! So, like I'm the biggest SG fan who doesn't own a SG t-shirt....... - ----------Ethan ------------------------------ From: Kelly Christa Jones Subject: Re: SG vs. PJ On Wed, 15 Nov 1995, Greg Bensimon wrote: > OK. I now have enough "My $.02" messages in my inbox to buy that new > Pentium I wanted for Christmas. It's obvious there are a lot of people who > like PJ out there, and there are a lot of people who think they suck various > body appendages... > > Personally, I think it's time to move on to another subject. Please, can we > drop this thread and move on to something else? Maybe something like > Chicken Fajitas vs. Bean Burritos or something... > > Greg > Bean Burritos--go vegetarian! (plus they're cheaper)> > ****************************************** > *** Sieze the day. *** > *** Pull the trigger. Drop the blade. *** > *** And watch the rolling heads. *** > ****************************************** > *** greg@sfa.com *** > ****************************************** > > > ------------------------------ From: al589314@campus.cegs.itesm.mx (Alba Bolan) Subject: SG vs PJ What's all this about Soundgarden is better than Pearl Jam? Why are all you saying all that if they haven't done anything bad to you(except cancell some concerts,but that's all) I know that you may be thinking "this person migth be in love with one of those guys" or "She HATES Soungarden". Well, none of them are true. I like Soundgarden as well as Pearl Jam. And if you say that PJ sucks, you should listen to a local group called Los pelos. They are supose to be rock, but they don't even play well.Lucky you that don't hear them. I think I'm feeling better after saying all this. ------------------------------ From: foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com Subject: Hi. I've been reading these posts about Soundgarden being very sexist, and I'm hoping that isn't true, being female myself... I was wondering, and so I went back to my log file of their aohell appearance and read it. Before they made that remark about the headless female doll, someone asked them if they were sexist heavy-metal pigs.. They were probably only kidding as I can't see Soundgarden as a bunch of sexist assholes, and if they are, I may go to Seattle and kick them in the nads. Well, anyway, my theory is that they were only kidding because someone asked them if they were sexist pigs and play the part up and fuck around. I'm hoping, anyway.. hmmmm.... Bleh, Foreshocks ------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... May I suggest hooked on Phonics? On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > As I have told my good friend Jackhammer "I don't usually rock the boat, I just > tip it over when climbing in". Well, I have a change of clothes ready and I'm > about to get wet. > > The Spin on-line last night - word like "suck", "shitty", "lame", "insulating", > and "boring" come to mind. > > Seeing as I "WAS" one of the female fans of the member of Soundgarden (I still > love the music and always will), they can take their headless female fan doll > and put it right where the Black Hole Sun doesn't shines. I will not debate > the reasoning behind SG analogy of a female fan - anyway you look at it, it > smelled of pig. > > Okay, maybe the question presented to them were worthless - Can we say "This is > Cool" - and who was doing the typing. If it was (and you know it wasn't) Chris > or Kim, I could see the slow response or did it really take SG that > long to think up a cute answer. > > It would have gone down better if they had been asked just questions about the > CD+. But ever time they move to another area - stupidity can forth. We all > can be > happy now knowing Chris listens to his Mother, their taste in beer is what ever > someone buys for them. They (SG) like GNR, listen to P J Harvey, Filter, and > TPOTUSOA (Carolyn I don't know if that means we have good taste or not), at > lease this was a worthy question. > > And we all should be totally thrilled that we (cyber-geeks) are a teen thing. > For you out there that are between the ages of 13 - 19, your doing fine. The > rest of us - I guess trying to advance technically, bring the world into your > hands, communicating, and expanding your understanding of other people by using > the Internet is just a big waste of time. Use the phone people - SG want us > to > pick up the phone and dial. Well excuse me, but I must pay my rent and calling > my > Aussie friends would put a big dent in my budget. Sorry we all can't be filthy > rich like you guys in the band. > > I will now apologies to AOL, for the string of nasty words I spit out at the > beginning of the AOL crash. I'm sorry, I forgot that if a system is going to > fuck with you - it will do it at the worst possible time. I'm been on this > side of the fence to many times - I should have taken a deep breath and > remember all the times I had stood where you were. > > To Soundgarden - from a headless female fan doing a teen thing - > try using your mouth and brain only for the music, your doing fine there. But > keep them close when walking in the real world. > > To Seth - Did you promise Steve you get his picture on the members page. Sorry > low shot, when I'm tick I tend to take down every thing that gets in my way. > You deserve the acknowledgment. It was one small spot of light in last > nights dark hole. > > To the SG mailing list membership - Don't cry if you missed it, missing nothing > is just > missing nothing. Chris and Kim are not Gods, they are just talented musicians. > > Now get your guns on and fire at will, I have my suit of armory back on. I'm > in the water and have sunk to the bottom, you can't reach me... > > Jamie > > ------------------------------ From: curtis wayne swedran Subject: Re: SG vs. PJ On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Laura Klief wrote: > I agree, this could go on forever and propally will!!! I prefer Chicken > Fajitas!!!!! What the hell is this all about? Chicken Fajitas vs. Beef Burritos? Come on people, I think the real question here is which does SG prefer. (Obviously the fajitas) ------------------------------ From: Kelly Christa Jones Subject: Re: Temple Of The Dog On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, B. Kinser wrote: > I went out and bought TOTD on the day it was released (no this isn't > some elitist "I had it before you" post) cause I had read about the > merger of Soundgarden and Mother Love Bone (this was Pre-Pearl Jam). > I immediately fell in love with the CD. this whole thing climaxed > when on Lollapalooza 92, eddie was on the side stage, jusr after the > Jim Rose Circus, and did a couple of solo acoustic songs. After the > second song, Chris Cornell came out and the two did Hunger Strike with > just the two of them and Eddie on guitar. Due to being under the > influence of some severe halucinogens, the result was an almost > magical experience to me. BTW this was the show at Alpine Valley in > Wisconsin if anyone else was there. At Alpine Vallley it is > considered an honor if the grass gets torn up while a band is playing. > When Soundgarden kicked into Slaves and Bulldozers the chunks of sod > were flying. It was ten times worse than the mud slinging during Gree > Day at Woodstock. Was anyone else out there at this show. Iread > somewhere that Chris said it was one of the best shows they had ever > played as far as the crowd being into it. > > BK > > I wasn't at that show, but I was at the Cleveland Lolla 92 and it was one of the best shows I've ever seen. During PJ (2nd act.(?)), the people on the lawn broke down the barricades and we all went into the pavillion just as it was starting to rain (I chose PJ over having fun on the mudslides-if you were there, or have ever been to Blossom you know what I mean). Anyway, they were great. A wonderful energy came out of them when they saw everyone crashing in. But the best part was that now I was way close to SG when they came on. We were around the 20th row (as opposed to BFE in the lawn). I went totally crazy when they went on. But no one else around me seemed to share in my excitement. Oh, well. I really wanted to stay close for the Chili Peppers, but I had to pee and they were coming on about 3 or 4 hours from when we got in. Pointless story, eh? Kelly ------------------------------ From: Kelly Christa Jones Subject: Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > >On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Limo Wreck wrote: > > I'm sorry, > >> but they probably thought of the whole thing as a joke. They do have a weird > >> sense of humor. > > > >Jamie, what he said. Take some of those comments a little more > >lightly, ok? Please? I mean i'm sure that the boys were just having > >fun. > > No, I don't thing their statement was funny. I don't think being referred to > as headless i.e., brainless, nothing, stupid, and views as just T&A as being > funny. To be fair I let several women in my office (aging from 25 - 57) read > the comments. I gave them the whole question not just SG answer. Not one of > them read it as anything but sexiest. > > > Think about it, how would you reply to stupid ?'s? And if you > >had heard stupid ?'s all along, wouldn't you become a little less > >serious when it came to the good questions? Take it a little bit > >easier on the boys. They never did claim to be gods. > > I never said that they were saying they were gods. I was telling the member's > on this list that always proclaim them as such, that it was not so. They are > just human beings, just like everyone else. Maybe they are more talented, but > that gives them no more right to make crude statement as it does anyone else. > > >Maybe that's > >just the after effects of glam rock on your psyche! But, come on, > >they shouldn't open their mouths in the real world? "Excuse me, you > >make excellent music, therefore only express your ideas in your music > >and don't say anything in the real world because you, like every one > >else, are not gods, but since you do make excellent music, you are > >not allowed to be normal in public" See what i mean? > > No, being sexiest is not NORMAL. I though SG was a part of the group that is > fighting the problem of rape and killings on the streets of Seattle. A > statement of this type does not help the problem. And they should know better. > > Try walking in a women shoes for a few days and see if a comment like this one > doesn't make you feel just great about yourself. No one, not rock star, > politician, movies star, business tycoon, or every day man on the street has > the right to say shit like that. And being in the spot light make it all the > more important that you don't say them. > > Look can't you see how hard it is for me to hear Chris say ugly things like > that. I have always envision him as a kind and caring man. His songs always > touch and move me. Then to have him make such a hurtful statement. It was a > hard hit at my heart. I'm sorry as a man you can not see that. > > Jamie > > Well, I consider myself to be a feminist and I didn't take their comments in the wrong way. I know exactly what -type- of women they were talking about. I do not think they were talking about -all- women. Kelly ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen <"Chicka Jackeen"@email.unc.edu> Subject: Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Limo Wreck wrote: > sorry Jamie... I know the real fans would have asked some good questions, but > it seemed that the morons (excluding steve and seth) were there and they asked > somestupid questions. And Soundgarden obliged with stupid answers. I'm sorry, > but they probably thought of the whole thing as a joke. They do have a weird > sense of humor. Jamie, what he said. Take some of those comments a little more lightly, ok? Please? I mean i'm sure that the boys were just having fun. Think about it, how would you reply to stupid ?'s? And if you had heard stupid ?'s all along, wouldn't you become a little less serious when it came to the good questions? Take it a little bit easier on the boys. They never did claim to be gods. Maybe that's just the after effects of glam rock on your psyche! But, come on, they shouldn't open their mouths in the real world? "Excuse me, you make excellent music, therefore only express your ideas in your music and don't say anything in the real world because you, like every one else, are not gods, but since you do make excellent music, you are not allowed to be normal in public" See what i mean? Btw, i would like to congratulate Seth on having won the award for the better page. Hey, Seth, maybe you'll get a call from Silver Management sometime in the near future....Hey, seth, you can also be proud that you started a mailing list. Silver management did not. So you are doing a better job of advertising and providing info than the professionals! What are you majoring in exactly...... -j ------------------------------ From: AMODEO SEBASTIEN Subject: The first and the last... I hope Hello SG fans everywhere... When I first compared PJ and SG, I didn't expect to see so many people respond. There are just a few things I wanted to say... 1) You can like any number of bands you want... Who says you have to listen to ONE kind of music anyways... 2) Personnal opinions are PERSONNAL... You don't have to swear at other people if they don't think the same way you do... 3) PJ and SG members are friends, and they would probably laugh at all the people who used all these nice words to describe eihter one of the bands (i.e. sucks cocks...!!!) 4) Well, that's it. Anyone else have an idea for an interesting debate? Sebastien ------------------------------ From: PEE WEE'S JAMBI Subject: MotorVision I recently bought MotorVision. It's a good video if you love Soundgarden. The concert parts seem to be overproduced however and the songs seem to be a little straightforward. I found exception in the end of Slaves and Bulldozers and Mind Riot. This version of Mind Riot was better than the original, thus I taped it off on to a cassette esp. to listen to instead of putting in the video everytime. My friend Todd made the humorous observation that while Chris was doing the extreme close ups to the camera, he resembled the llama on the cover of Pearl Jams VS. Pointlessly, Aaron Most people are so busy trying to control others they don't control themselves. =============================================================================== SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS =============================================================================== AL I VEIN THESU PER UNK N OWN - CHICKA JACKEEN AKA: LaMONT SANFORD GORDON SHUMWAY MAJOR HEILLY JERRY MATHERS SWM 5'10" 160lbs seeking attractive SF for meaningful relationship. Must be independent, interested in music, and educated. Also, I enjoy camping, concerts, parties, and am not afraid of the more cultural life. ------------------------------ From: Jennifer C Graham Subject: SG on the brain! This may appear at first to have nothing to do with SG, but it does. It's silly but I think most will appreciate it. I was in my Total Quality Management class yesterday and my professor spoke of virtual corporations. They are, for example, a distribution co. and a manufacturing co and maybe a design co. all coming together, once, to create a product. Once they finish this one time product they go back to business as usual, like just being a distribution company or whatever. Instantly I thought to myself: Oh like when Sg and pj got together to create TOTD. It's a side project, a one time thing. The go back to being just SG or PJ when they are done. I couldn't pay attention for the rest of the class. I could only think of "All Night Thing". It was stuck in my head and there was nothing I could do! I know I'm not the only one whose brain is taken over by music! I hope anyway! Jenn ------------------------------ From: PEE WEE'S JAMBI Subject: Re: hello It makes me wonder, however, why Hiro showed up to do the AOL thing. What was the purpose? He *isn't ?* working with soundgarden any more. And the whole point of the interview was to talk of the new CD+. What the hell could Hiro add to the conversation other than "Ummm . . . Check out my Band too." Unless . . . . Circle of Power 95 remix featuring Method Man and Inspector Decks of Wu Tang Clan. Ha! Later, Beyer Most people are so busy trying to control others they don't control themselves. =============================================================================== SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS =============================================================================== AL I VEIN THESU PER UNK N OWN - CHICKA JACKEEN AKA: LaMONT SANFORD GORDON SHUMWAY MAJOR HEILLY JERRY MATHERS SWM 5'10" 160lbs seeking attractive SF for meaningful relationship. Must be independent, interested in music, and educated. Also, I enjoy camping, concerts, parties, and am not afraid of the more cultural life. ------------------------------ From: u01gaa@abdn.ac.uk Subject: Stop Arguing!! Don't you think that this argument over Pearl Jam vs Soundgarden is getting a bit out of hand? Just about all the messages are now about this. Please find something more interesting to talk about!! For example, the new CD pack. Oh, and why are you only comparing SG to Pearl jam, what about all the other bands in the world. Grant. P.S. Seth, could you possibly make up a third digest form, which excludes all arguments over this (but would there be anything left?). ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: Re: AOL >can be made for each. Soundgarden writes like this. I remember reading >someone thought that "Like Suicide" was written for a pet canary that got >loose in a house and died by flying into a window. That is the most >beautiful interpetation I have ever heard for it. Obviously, alot of Actually Like suicide is about a bird flying into a window, and killing itself. That is not an interpretation that is what chris said the song was about. Clown A lonely college student, Beyer P.S. Sorry if you read that all. Most people are so busy trying to control others they don't control themselves. =============================================================================== SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS =============================================================================== AL I VEIN THESU PER UNK N OWN - CHICKA JACKEEN AKA: LaMONT SANFORD GORDON SHUMWAY MAJOR HEILLY JERRY MATHERS On Wed, 15 Nov 1995 DanaBT@aol.com wrote: > Okay, Seth, Moon, Tonerkins, Mercancia and anyone else who watched the > proceedings, Laschmook was Hiro, right? Who was the other "guest"? I know > they answered two of Mercancia's questions but did anyone else "talk" to > them? I'm still surprised that noone asked if Kim was a woman previously. You > were probably right Moon, I think the questions were edited and if it didn't > relate to the new cd, it wasn't posted. > ------------------------------ From: Philip Fetters Subject: Re: Review on last nights thing... IMO (no humble here).... On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote: > May I suggest hooked on Phonics? > No, you may not. Not on the bean burrito mailing list. -j ------------------------------ From: Philip Fetters Subject: Re: who is the source On Thu, 16 Nov 1995 Patrick_Mulvany@BAYLOR.EDU wrote: > With all this talk about Pearl Jam and Soundgarden, its clear that they are > headed in different directions. So as a question for discussion, who is the > main creative force in Soundgarden? Now that is a good question. You know on all those songs where Ben gets credit for writing the music, does he write the guitar solos for those songs as well? But i'd say Chris is the main creative force, but the others are not far behind. Everyone contributes. The following is merely a possibility for the way they write songs: Someone writes a few lyrics. Someone picks up these lyrics and writes a riff to go along with them. Ben figures out the bass part. Matt says "No, rearrange the riff so it will fit into my new time signatures 64/3 and 82/5." Kim and Chris say "Cool!!!!" and do so. Ben adjusts. Sometimes. Chris defies vocal chord science and begins to unleash the lyrics from deep within. Sg jams Kim or Chris plays a nice interlude or solo or something to add to the song. A song is born. Well, any other ideas on how it's done? -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ From: dallis@hq.walldata.com (Allis, Don) Subject: RE: The first and the last... I hope Yeah, lets debate on whether or not stupid people should be kicked in the head repeatedly!! ---------- From: AMODEO SEBASTIEN To: somms Subject: The first and the last... I hope Date: Thursday, November 16, 1995 1:45PM Hello SG fans everywhere... When I first compared PJ and SG, I didn't expect to see so many people respond. There are just a few things I wanted to say... 1) You can like any number of bands you want... Who says you have to listen to ONE kind of music anyways... 2) Personnal opinions are PERSONNAL... You don't have to swear at other people if they don't think the same way you do... 3) PJ and SG members are friends, and they would probably laugh at all the people who used all these nice words to describe eihter one of the bands (i.e. sucks cocks...!!!) 4) Well, that's it. Anyone else have an idea for an interesting debate? Sebastien ------ Message Header Follows ------ Received: from mail-host.walldata.com by msmail.walldata.com (PostalUnion/SMTP(tm) v2.1.7 for Windows NT(tm)) id AA-1995Nov16.134538.1100.66583; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:45:38 -0800 Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU) by mail-host.walldata.com (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA03695; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 13:45:07 -0800 Received: from cari.telecom.uqam.ca by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA27344; Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:51:33 EST Received: from merlin.si.uqam.ca by cari.telecom.uqam.ca (4.1/SMI-4.2.1.pop NIS) id AA29877; Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:51:13 EST Message-Id: <9511162051.AA29877@cari.telecom.uqam.ca> Received: by merlin.si.uqam.ca (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA250595071; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 15:51:11 -0500 From: AMODEO SEBASTIEN Subject: The first and the last... I hope To: somms@MIT.EDU Date: Thu, 16 Nov 95 15:51:11 EST In-Reply-To: <9511160732.AA22911@THE-GOOD.MIT.EDU>; from "somms@MIT.EDU" at Nov 16, 95 2:32 am Mailer: Elm [revision: 70.85] ------------------------------ From: James A Sellers Subject: Explanation why Pearl Jam sucks cock. Okay, here goes. Music: Soundgarden are better musicians. Period! Look at the song structures, time signatures, guitar tunings, and other technical elements that make up each SG song. Ben, Matt, Chris, and Kim approach the music with a keen sense of doing something original, creative, and complex. Pearl Jam, on the other hand, are riff-beaters. Although it's easy for them to do the "Dropped-D" grunge guitar tuning bullshit, Pearl Jam just pump out these boring tunes about the usual subjects. (Teen angst, divorce, etc.) Soundgarden are miles ahead of Pearl Jam in their songwriting. Cornell's lyrics are more obscure and cryptic. Kim's guitar playing uses a lot of bizarre and dissonant chord progressions. Ben Shepard's bass adds a whole other element to the music. Jeff Ament? hah! Matt Cameron is one of the top drummers in music today. The pearl jam guy is a straight 4-4 guy who does nothing creative. I challenge each of you to listen to the music technically! Do not listen to it, just so that you can tap your feet. Listen to how the instruments sound on their own, and together. I will bet each one of you that, taking into account what I just said, Soundgarden is the better band. Image: Pearl Jam are poseurs and posturing fakes. A band of tortured artists. Veddar postures, poses, and sorrounds himself in this defeated self-imagery. If you want a great example of someone who says this better than I do, listen to MIKE WATT'S album "Ballhog or Tugboat". On that album is a song called "Heartbeat". Listen to that song. Kathleen Hanna (singer of Bikini Kill) goes off on this long diatribe about how much she hates music made by all the tortured white-boy rockstars who hate the world and feel so depressed. Can somebody say Veddar?? Soundgarden are real people. They don't shy away. They drink beer when accepting awards. They are REAL people, and not images. Cornell is comfortable with his "star" status. And Thayil sounds like he'd be a fun cool guy to hang out with. You feel like you know these guys, or people like them. Pearl Jam? forget it. There. I defend what I say. And to that Vinnie guy, "You're Welcome." - -Jim ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: (fwd) Re: who is the source >others are not far behind. Everyone contributes. The following is >merely a possibility for the way they write songs: >Someone writes a few lyrics. >Someone picks up these lyrics and writes a riff to go along with them. >Ben figures out the bass part. >Matt says "No, rearrange the riff so it will fit into my new time >signatures 64/3 and 82/5." >Kim and Chris say "Cool!!!!" and do so. >Ben adjusts. Sometimes. >Chris defies vocal chord science and begins to unleash the lyrics from >deep within. >Sg jams >Kim or Chris plays a nice interlude or solo or something to add to the song. >A song is born. Don't forget: Kim creates a rif, that eminates some new kind of angry darkness from some forgotten place beneath the earth. Ben creates a rumbling noise that sounds like it originates from somewhere beneath seattle. Clown Well, any other ideas on how it's done? -j aka Philip Fetters, "He Who Walks Between" aka The Equalist aka Chicka Jackeen, A Livein Thesu (Per Unkn Own). Boom biddy bye bye! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden "Hey you gotta pay your dues, before you pay the rent" -Pavement ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Stop Arguing!! From: seth > P.S. Seth, could you possibly make up a third digest form, which excludes all > arguments over this (but would there be anything left?). Not a chance. But you can feel free to make one and send it to yourself. I like the SG-PJ debate, as long is doesn't get entirely reduced to "Soundgarden is better because Pearl Jam sucks." seth ------------------------------ From: Vinnie Macchione Subject: Re: Explanation why Pearl Jam sucks cock. This guy just doesn't quit does he folks!?! Now maybe if we could all chip in and buy him a mind, maybe we could get somewhere here! On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, James A Sellers wrote: > > > Okay, here goes. > > Music: > Soundgarden are better musicians. Period! Look at the song > structures, time signatures, guitar tunings, and other technical elements > that make up each SG song. Ben, Matt, Chris, and Kim approach the music > with a keen sense of doing something original, creative, and complex. > Pearl Jam, on the other hand, are riff-beaters. Although it's easy for > them to do the "Dropped-D" grunge guitar tuning bullshit Pearl Jam just "grunge guitar tuning bullshit..." Does anyone, ANYONE, out there believe what this guy is saying? I didn't think so! > pump out these boring tunes about the usual subjects. (Teen angst, > divorce, etc.) Soundgarden are miles ahead of Pearl Jam in their > songwriting. Cornell's lyrics are more obscure and cryptic. Kim's guitar "boring tunes about usual subjects..." I like that "usual subjects" part. How dumb are you? What are 99% of ALL songs written about...experiences! Why the hell do you think Pearl Jam writes about things like "teen angst, divorce, etc.)? They've gone through it, they have stories to tell, emotion to bring out! Soundgarden writes the same kind of fucking songs! > playing uses a lot of bizarre and dissonant chord progressions. Ben > Shepard's bass adds a whole other element to the music. Jeff Ament? hah! > Matt Cameron is one of the top drummers in music today. The pearl jam guy > is a straight 4-4 guy who does nothing creative. I challenge each of you > to listen to the music technically! Do not listen to it, just so that you > can tap your feet. Listen to how the instruments sound on their own, and > together. I will bet each one of you that, taking into account what I > just said, Soundgarden is the better band. > > Image: > Pearl Jam are poseurs and posturing fakes. A band of tortured > artists. Veddar postures, poses, and sorrounds himself in this defeated > self-imagery. "poseurs and posturing fakes..." another great quote from the world's first English speaking primate! Pearl Jam are real people, people who have lived life, and gotten raped by it. Just because you've never been tortured by life, love, and time, you have no right to call someone a poseur! You obviously have experienced the harsh realities of life, I'd never wish on anyone some of the things I've gone through, so maybe I understand Eddie, or Jeff, or Stone, etc. are going through. Don't trash things that you know nothing about! > If you want a great example of someone who says this better > than I do, listen to MIKE WATT'S album "Ballhog or Tugboat". On that > album is a song called "Heartbeat". Listen to that song. Kathleen Hanna > (singer of Bikini Kill) goes off on this long diatribe about how much she > hates music made by all the tortured white-boy rockstars who hate the world > and feel so depressed. Can somebody say Veddar?? If you knew anything, it would really surprise me! Tha part of Mike Watt's album that Kathleen Hanna does, was written by Watt! He wrote it because he was making fun of people like you who think that artists like Vedder (learn to spell!) or Cobain were just trying to bring attention to themselves by staying out of the limelight! It just shows your ingorance, by citing that peice! > Soundgarden are real people. They don't shy away. They drink beer > when accepting awards. They are REAL people, and not images. Cornell is > comfortable with his "star" status. And Thayil sounds like he'd be a fun > cool guy to hang out with. You feel like you know these guys, or people > like them. Pearl Jam? forget it. > > There. I defend what I say. And to that Vinnie guy, "You're Welcome." > > -Jim > > I don't have one bad thing to say about Soundgarden, they have written some of the songs that I empathize with best, but calling Pearl Jam poseurs because YOU can't empathize with their songs, just shows your ignorance and how much you are influenced by the "Pearl Jam hating media." Sorry man, get a clue! Vinnie ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: Hi. Well, I agree with foreshocks when she said that SG was only joking about the headless female doll. If you read the whole thing they joked around the whole time and almost never answered a question without fucking around. So to whoever it was that got upset, don't worry about it. SG aren't sexist they were probably just wasted. lee ------------------------------ From: alisa brozena Subject: Re: (fwd) Re: who is the source Hey, did you notice the Top Ramen reply? SG eats those soups just like us college students!lee ------------------------------ From: Laura Klief Subject: Re: SG vs. PJ Actually, I tink the band would eat what ever they could get there hands on. But, I still prefer the Chicken Fajitas!!! On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, curtis wayne swedran wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, Laura Klief wrote: > > > I agree, this could go on forever and propally will!!! I prefer Chicken > > Fajitas!!!!! > > > What the hell is this all about? Chicken Fajitas vs. Beef Burritos? > Come on people, I think the real question here is which does SG prefer. > (Obviously the fajitas) > ------------------------------ From: Philip Fetters Subject: Re: Explanation why Pearl Jam sucks cock. Sorry folks, i have to do this. On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, James A Sellers wrote: > Soundgarden are better musicians. Period! Agreed. Technically, they kick Pearl Jam's ass. But technically Ozzy's new guitarist kicks Hootie's ass, but guess who is on the radio? My point is: songwriting is not all technical. There are great songs with no real technical stuff in them. Not that Hootie writes great songs..... Look at the song > structures, time signatures, guitar tunings, and other technical elements > that make up each SG song. Ben, Matt, Chris, and Kim approach the music > with a keen sense of doing something original, creative, and complex. Yes, and that's what makes them better than Pearl Jam. > Pearl Jam, on the other hand, are riff-beaters. Although it's easy for > them to do the "Dropped-D" grunge guitar tuning bullshit, Pearl Jam just > pump out these boring tunes about the usual subjects. Ok, now here is the thing. Child abuse? Vynil? You call those normal subjects? No, Pearl Jam tries not to stick to normal subjects. And so they have a few songs about normal subjects. They do them pretty well. Listen w/ out prejudice to "Black", that is the best song i have ever heard to capture the emotions felt when a relationship ends. And there is symbolism in that song. It's not straightforward completely. > divorce, etc.) Soundgarden are miles ahead of Pearl Jam in their > songwriting. Cornell's lyrics are more obscure and cryptic. Time for a little heresy: sg critics could say that cc doesn't have the ability to write a normal song. So they write in different styles. If you don't want to appreciate both styles, that's completely cool, but its not fair to say a band sucks just because they play in a style you don't like. Kim's guitar > playing uses a lot of bizarre and dissonant chord progressions. Of course, kim's a college graduate. McCready's an alcoholic. (No offense, pj fans) Ben > Shepard's bass adds a whole other element to the music. Jeff Ament? hah! Ok, this is the first time i have seen anyone be brave enough to criticize Ament. (Maybe cuz he's 6'5"?) But, no, Ament may even beat out Ben in technical ability. But yes, Ben's bass does something for sg songs that Ament could not do. Once again, different styles. > Matt Cameron is one of the top drummers in music today. The pearl jam guy > is a straight 4-4 guy who does nothing creative. True, but pj's music does not depend on difficult drumming. Hell, it might even work w/out a drummer. I challenge each of you > to listen to the music technically! Done that. Have the music and tabs for evenflow. Still can't play it. Just started working on learning black hole sun today. Finished an hour later. Difficulty might not imply technicality, but it should account for something. Also, pj's music is mostly meant to convey emotions. What's wrong w/ common emotions? Just because everyone feels them? Maybe they don't do as good of a job on vitalogy or vs. (aren't animal and go really just the same song w/ different riffs?), but they did a damn good job of it on ten. Do not listen to it, just so that you > can tap your feet. Listen to how the instruments sound on their own, and > together. Funny, i've done that before. But it seemed to me that i had to actually try hard to do that for Pearl Jam. Why? Because everything fits together so well, you think of it as music instead of 4 instruments and a voice. I will bet each one of you that, taking into account what I > just said, Soundgarden is the better band. No kidding. I already knew that. But Pearl Jam do have a place somewhere in music. Which reminds me, has anyone who has read this far heard Mirror Ball? My friend told me i must borrow it and it kicks ass. > Image: > Pearl Jam are poseurs and posturing fakes. A band of tortured > artists. Veddar postures, poses, and sorrounds himself in this defeated > self-imagery. Yes, Vedder does, but how do you draw the conclusion that the rest of the band shares his feelings? > Soundgarden are real people. Yeah, but what does that prove musically? They don't shy away. They drink beer > when accepting awards. So did GnR, and look where it got them. They are REAL people, and not images. How do you know thy're not just images of real people? Cornell is > comfortable with his "star" status. And Thayil sounds like he'd be a fun > cool guy to hang out with. You feel like you know these guys, or people > like them. Well, i've never met them so i couldn't tell you that..... > Pearl Jam? forget it. Actually, i saw an interview w/ Jeff Ament and he sounded like some one i would go shoot ball with..... > There. I defend what I say. Thank you very much. I just did the same. Ok, well it is true that McCready rips off a lot of his solos, he said so himself. But gossard is a great musician and so is ament. (Let's see Ben play a stand up bass...). Another thing is, McCready is good to be able to play those solos. And, about your attitude towards Vedder, try having 5 milliuon people prying into evcerything you do. Without any experience of having fans. Oh, sure, you'll have a lot of money, and you can never complain about that, but would you still have a real life? So i guess my point is that pj does not suck that much. But sg will always be the better band....(Until the 4th of July, anyway) - -j ------------------------------ From: "Limo Wreck" Subject: Re: Another question. > > I've also seen one > > or two other pre-Badmotorfinger T-shirts but it was a few years back. My > > friend had a white one that said SOUNDGARDEN around the bottom edge in > > My friend had a white one that said SOUNDGARDEN around the bottom edge in > > >black and it had that old design on it that looks kind of like an "s"...oh, > > it's too hard to explain! i've seen that one. The "s" shape is the same design next to the song "Nazu Driver" in the liner notes for UltraMega OK. some info for ya... - -- Jeremy Crocker, A.K.A LimoWreck j_crocke@eos.ncsu.edu http://www4.ncsu.edu/eos/users/j/j_crocke/WWW/home.html "When a man lies he murders "Leslie's coughing up blood Some part of the world can't breath the wind These are the pale deaths which can't drink the flood Men miscall their lives Leslie's coughing up blood now" All this i cannot bear - Truly To witness any longer Cannot the kingdom of salvation Take me home" - C. Burton ------------------------------ From: christopher Subject: SG on imusic.com SG is in imusic's topten list, not tons of info, but pictures of the discs and such for those like me who haven't seen them all. http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/ later chris ------------------------------ From: He Who Walks Between Subject: Re: SG on imusic.com On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, christopher wrote: > SG is in imusic's topten list, not tons of info, but pictures of the > discs and such for those like me who haven't seen them all. > > http://www.imusic.com/soundgarden/ > Um, for lots of info and pictures of the badn as well, try this site: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/ It's even better than the official site. ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: Pearl Spam yeah, but eddie drank two bottles of wine on stage, and he's a wuss. but those go hand in hand. anyway, eric and i want to know what songs you guys think we should cover with our new band. we just got back from practice, and we can most of the SG tunes that don't break glass on the vocals. suggestions please. we need a drummer, and then we're off to make our own recording! ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: sg v pj AARGH!! My eyes hurt from reading too much mail about how much PJ sux or doesn't suck. This is a soundgarden list, so I guess everyone here is a soundgarden fan. So it is safe to assume that the majority of us put SG above all else, including PJ. I, like many others, am growing tired of this topic. So let me say that even Hitler would be able to see both sides of the arguement (isn't there some rule about stopping a discussion when the guy with the funny moustache is mentioned?). David. ------------------------------ From: "Eric G. Lanning" Subject: Re: sg v pj mom? ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: Pearl Garden ready, i'm gonna give you all the answers to all your well thought responses to the pearl jam/soundgarden thing (like "Pearl Jam sucks, 'cause i say so.....pass the bong, dude") ............... it's this simple-----you guys can rant and rave about how deep eddie is or isn't, and how touching cornell is or whatever the fuck, but guess what....you're opinion isn't SHIT.........except to yourself......i'm sure somebody reading all the responses and arguments is just gonna go "Hey, he's right, pearl jam does suck.......i hate them now...." no one cares what you think.......everyone has their own musical tastes, and your brilliant arguments aren't gonna change them. it's like arguing with someone because you think your girlfriends pussy tastes the best, and the other guy saying his girlfriends tastes better......just like music its a matter of TASTE!!!!!! now i respect everyone's opinions here, as long as they have some kind of backing...not just "pearl jam sucks....." those idiots suck....too much pot to formulate a meaningful sentence.. for the majority of intelligent people who give their thoughts.....great.....but don't expect to change the goddam world, because i like my girlfriends pussy the best................................Little Joe ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: lead singers Over the last few weeks, with all this talk of Chris being God and looking like Jesus and being just so great, this thought has been popping in and out of my mind. It seems that in a band the lead vocalist is the one who gets all the attention and praise and shit, and the others are just there for decoration. Sure, Chris is talented, has a fantastic voice, and he writes most of the lyrics and songs, but there are three others in SG. (About the "Chris is God" thing, maybe we could have a poly-deity religion, the holy quadrity, blaspheme, blaspheme..) Don't get me wrong, I'm not bagging anyone's comments that have been put on the list. I just think its sad that, in many bands, the frontman/woman gets all the attention. You look in magazines and stuff, and they have a picture of Chris and its caption is "Soundgarden", or a picture of James Hetfield captioned "Metallica". Its bullshit. I've never been in a band (I can't play music or sing, wish I could though), but if I was I reckon I would be pissed if the lead singer got all the praise. Anyway, what does everyone else think? David. "I'm only faking when I get it right.":SG ------------------------------ From: "Eric G. Lanning" Subject: Re: sg v pj dan and i think that pearl jam sucks little cock (eddie isn't cute enough to get big cock) and that grant lee buffalo rules. grant lee buffalo is the caviar of alternative rock. SG is the crackers that you eat the caviar on, and pearl jam is the shit you make afterwards. (dan wrote that) and there is no possibility that either of us is A) schizophrenic or B)drunk. wait, that's not true. i am schizophrenic. and so is joe ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: Re: sg v pj On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, Eric G. Lanning wrote: > mom? > Wh..? ------------------------------ From: 9304458s <9304458s@lux.levels.unisa.edu.au> Subject: 3 faves? Ok, time to get the blood boiling! Remember that 3 favourite songs thing a while back. I've been dying to do this, sorry to clutter your mailbox. Pearl Jam 1 once 2 deep 3 go, and oceans Silverchair 1 Israel's son 2 Shade 3 Blind MetallicA 1 Damage Inc. 2 Call of Ktulu 3 Sad but true Pantera 1 Strength Beyond Strength 2 Good Friends and a Bottle of Pills 2 Fucking Hostile Bjork ("Wh..?") 1 Army of Me 2 Enjoy 3 Hyperballad Faith No More 1 Evidence 2 Surprise, Your Dead 3 From Out of Nowhere The Beach Boys hmm, maybe not. Ooooo, that feels good. I would go on, but its 6:30, ad I've got a raost to cook. David "imagine what my body would sound like Slamming against those rocks And when it lands, will my eyes be closed or open?": Bjork ------------------------------ From: PEE WEE'S JAMBI Subject: Re: AOL On Thu, 16 Nov 1995, ClownWithBazooka wrote: > > >can be made for each. Soundgarden writes like this. I remember reading > >someone thought that "Like Suicide" was written for a pet canary that got > >loose in a house and died by flying into a window. That is the most > >beautiful interpetation I have ever heard for it. Obviously, alot of > Actually Like suicide is about a bird flying into a window, and > killing itself. That is not an interpretation that is what chris said > the song was about. > Clown Even so, that is just one intrepretation. Granted that's what it is about, we still have a thousand different intrepretations. > > > A lonely college student, > Beyer > > P.S. Sorry if you read that all. > > Most people are so busy trying to control > others they don't control themselves. > =============================================================================== > SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS > =============================================================================== > AL I VEIN THESU PER UNK N OWN - CHICKA JACKEEN > AKA: LaMONT SANFORD GORDON SHUMWAY MAJOR HEILLY JERRY MATHERS > > On Wed, 15 Nov 1995 DanaBT@aol.com wrote: > > > Okay, Seth, Moon, Tonerkins, Mercancia and anyone else who watched the > > proceedings, Laschmook was Hiro, right? Who was the other "guest"? I know > > they answered two of Mercancia's questions but did anyone else "talk" to > > them? I'm still surprised that noone asked if Kim was a woman previously. You > > were probably right Moon, I think the questions were edited and if it didn't > > relate to the new cd, it wasn't posted. > > > > ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: Pearl Garden On Fri, 17 Nov 1995, Joseph A. Burnett wrote: > ready, i'm gonna give you all the answers to all your well thought responses > to the pearl jam/soundgarden thing (like "Pearl Jam sucks, 'cause i say > so.....pass the bong, dude") ............... > > it's this simple-----you guys can rant and rave about how deep eddie is or > isn't, and how touching cornell is or whatever the fuck, but guess > what....you're opinion isn't SHIT.........except to yourself......i'm sure > somebody reading all the responses and arguments is just gonna go > "Hey, he's right, pearl jam does suck.......i hate them now...." > no one cares what you think.......everyone has their own musical tastes, and > your brilliant arguments aren't gonna change them. > > it's like arguing with someone because you think your girlfriends pussy > tastes the best, and the other guy saying his girlfriends tastes > better......just like music its a matter of TASTE!!!!!! > > now i respect everyone's opinions here, as long as they have some kind of > backing...not just "pearl jam sucks....." those idiots suck....too much pot > to formulate a meaningful sentence.. > > for the majority of intelligent people who give their > thoughts.....great.....but don't expect to change the goddam world, because > i like my girlfriends pussy the best................................Little Joe > > i think your pussy tastes the best. eddie's is a little sour for my taste ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: 3 faves? shhhhh : bjork ------------------------------ From: PEE WEE'S JAMBI Subject: God!!!! I really don't know that much about religion, but I remember hearing Jesus was a Shepherd once or twice on a shitty Christian "Send us Money" network. If that's the case, neither Chris or Kim look like Jesus for Christ's sake, it's Ben Shepherd! Using deductive reasoning and a college education, Your best pal Aaron Most people are so busy trying to control others they don't control themselves. =============================================================================== SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS =============================================================================== AL I VEIN THESU PER UNK N OWN - CHICKA JACKEEN AKA: LaMONT SANFORD GORDON SHUMWAY MAJOR HEILLY JERRY MATHERS SWM 5'10" 160lbs seeking attractive SF for meaningful relationship. Must be independent, interested in music, and educated. Also, I enjoy camping, concerts, parties, and am not afraid of the more cultural life. ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 103] ****************************************