From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 1 Nov 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 01 Nov 1995 00:15:06 EST Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 1 Nov 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ TO UNSUBSCRIBE: email saperl@mit.edu Today's Topics: BMF vs. BMF/SOMMS RE: I want to be king. Re: Soundganja RE: I want to be king. Missing Rahpsody! Re: SG - lightin' up? RE: I want to be king. Re: SG - lightin' up? Hi. Re: Soundganja Re: What Book? Re: What Book? RE: I want to be king. RE: I want to be king. RE: I want to be king. Re: imho RE: I want to be king. RE: I want to be king. Re: BMF vs. BMF/SOMMS Re: I want to be king beyond the fruit stall... RE: I want to be king. rusty cabbage... favorite Seattle song lyric Re: Alive in the Superunknown? (fwd) Kim & Jesus? ------------------------------------------------------------ Subject: BMF vs. BMF/SOMMS From: seth {was Re: I want to be king.) > (Refer to > band photo on Badmotorfinger). I learned something quite interesting the other day; the insert in single-disc version of _Badmotorfinger_ contains different pictures than the insert in the two-disc BMF/SOMMS pack. It never even occurred to me that this would be the case. Since I have 2 copies of BMF/SOMMS and no copies of just BMF, I don't have access to the pictures in the standard release. Would someone with this disc and a scanner be kind enough to scan whatever photos are in the insert and email them to me for the Web page? It would be much appreciated, and you would be sure to get all of the same benefits that other Web page contributors enjoy. seth ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: RE: I want to be king. >Why does everyone think Cornell would make a good Jesus Christ? If >you ask me Kim is a dead ringer for a historically correct Jesus. (Refer to >band photo on Badmotorfinger). This is quite a good point, renaisance (maybe gothic) painters were the first to start picturing Jesus like a white, blond guy with blue/green eyes. If we think on the location where Jesus lived, he must have had a face more like Kim's. >P.S. Jeff Ament = worm food Where does this rumor come from? If he were really dead, the news would have said something by now. Can somebody confirm this? URB@NO ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundganja Great subject title!! The biggest problem with soundgarden smoking pot is getting that harsh stuff that would hurt Chris' voice. If grown men want to indulge they will. My only complaint would be if it hurt their performances somehow. Gosh there might be someone on the soundgarden mailing list tokin' up in front of their monitor right now! ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: RE: I want to be king. jesus would not have looked more like kim. kim is asian, while jesus was born in the middle east, but of more european than traditionally viewed middle eastern or african stock. Jesus' true ancestors would have been israeli, which come from the same people as iranians, iraqis, palestinians, israeilis, i.e. the semites, the seven tribes. jesus was first portrayed in the more popular brown curly hair, goatee, brown eyed, white skinned look not that long after his death, like around 200 a.d or something like that, on the shroud of turin, which is the source for most of the imagery associated with jesus' appearance today. while chris can be our jesus, kim can be our muhammed. they're both the son of god in their respective religions. anyway, i still think ted nugent looks more like jesus than chris. chris is a little bigger physically than i picture jesus, while uncle ted has that "been living on bread and water for years" llok to him. the blasphemer ------------------------------ From: "Nathan" Subject: Missing Rahpsody! It turns out I'm going to miss Cyberian Rahpsody! (I'll be in Vegas) Does anyone know if it will be available for listening after it takes place? If not, could someone save the file? I'd be greatly appreciative, and if I hit the jackpot in Las Vegas, I'll split the winnings with you. Let me know. - -nathan ------------------------------ From: grendel Subject: Re: SG - lightin' up? On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, jolputvo wrote: > On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, grendel wrote: > > > I saw an interview somewhere shortly after Superunknown came out, and the > > interviewer asked Chris why the band still releases vinyl LP's. Chris's > > response was that a gatefold LP gives the kids something to sort their > > pot on. So if the band _doesn't_ light up, at least they're concerned > > about their fans who do. ;) > > > What I am glad about is, even if they do (I'm not saying they do.. > But, chances are... ) they don't galmourfy it.. not like some bands > do/did. Hewy Leiws . I think he has a > genuine concern to stop people from doing drugs.. > They certainly aren't in the same league as the Black Crowes or Cypress Hill, in that sense. And I, for one, am _extremely_ glad that Chris doesn't run around in hemp bell-bottoms. ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (ClownWithBazooka) Subject: RE: I want to be king. >jesus would not have looked more like kim. kim is asian, while jesus was >born in the middle east, but of more european than traditionally viewed >middle eastern or african stock. Kim is NOT asian, he is indian as in the indian subcontinent. Whose people are quite similar to Arabs in looks, especially Kim because I thought he was arab for sometime. Iraqi's, israeli's and palestinians all look similar to kim, and back in those days israeli's and palestinians came from the same place so they would look the same anyway. So I think that Jesus would look more like KIm it makes sense when you think about it, when the europeans adopted christianity they would not want they're son of god to look like a differrent ethnic group. >Jesus wasfirst portrayed in the more popular brown curly hair, goatee, >brown eyed,white skinned look not that long after his death, like around 200 a.d or >something like that, on the shroud of turin, which is the source for most >of the imagery associated with jesus' appearance today. while chris can >be our jesus, kim can be our muhammed. they're both the son of god in >their respective religions. anyway, i still think ted nugent looks more >like jesus than chris. chris is a little bigger physically than i picture >jesus, while uncle ted has that "been living on bread and water for >years" llok to him. Muhammad is considered the messenger of god, NOT the son of god in the islamic religion. We will never know what Muhammad looked like because the Islamic religion forbade portraits of him. The reasoning behind this was so that his image would not be altered after his death so one racial group could feel superior over another. Most of the white supremacist groups in this country use that altered image of Jesus to "legitimize" they're supposed superiority. Clown the blasphemer ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: SG - lightin' up? any friend of p is a friend of me On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, jolputvo wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, grendel wrote: > > > > > On October 30, jolputvo wrote: > > > > > > >I would be *very* suprised if nobody on Soundgarden did the occational > > > >(well, maybe a little more than occational) joint now and then. But, > > > > > > I saw an interview somewhere shortly after Superunknown came out, and the > > > interviewer asked Chris why the band still releases vinyl LP's. Chris's > > > response was that a gatefold LP gives the kids something to sort their > > > pot on. So if the band _doesn't_ light up, at least they're concerned > > > about their fans who do. ;) > > > > > What I am glad about is, even if they do (I'm not saying they do.. > > But, chances are... ) they don't galmourfy it.. not like some bands > > do/did. Hewy Leiws . I think he has a > > genuine concern to stop people from doing drugs.. > > > > > chris is cool, he just sits home and drinks. well, that's one thing we > have in common... > > > friends of p > ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Hi. Hi guys. Now that all of my midterms are done I'm back on the list. First of all, I got a "ticket" for this Cyberian Rhapsody thing but I don't really know what it is. Any answers? Second, I had the opportunity to watch Motorvision for the first time this past weekend. I liked it, but did anyone else think the strange camera angles and video effects got kind of annoying? Third, have I missed any info about the CD-Plus release "Alive in the Superunknown" or the new album? Good to be back. No flames, please (ha ha ha ha ha). BDM "If there's a higher power at work here he either has a weird sense of humor or way too much time on his hands." --R. Green ------------------------------ From: Milkman Subject: Re: Soundganja I don't believe that Eddie V would try to kill Chris, since the two are friends. If they weren't, we wouldn't have the great gift of Temple of the Dog, would we? p.s. - What the fuck does IMHO stand for? ------------------------------ From: Jennifer C Graham Subject: Re: What Book? On Mon, 30 Oct 1995, nancy e phend wrote: > The Screaming Life book about the Seattle scene is a hardcover 'coffee > table' picture book. I paid $35.00 plus $3.00 shipping from Sub Pop > mailorder. The Soundgarden biography book is a softcover that I > mailordered from BehindtheScreams. It was $14.90 including shipping. They > have an order blank in Rolling Stone or check out their web page. If you > have any other questions let me know. > > nephend > I am totally new to the Internet thing so I do not know how to check out their web page. Could you tell me how? Thanks a lot--Jenn ------------------------------ Subject: Re: What Book? From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (Nancy E Phend) This post is for 'foreshocks' and 'Jennifer' and anyone else who might be interested in the Soundgarden book. The Internet address is (http://www.behindthescreams.com). There telephone number is 1-800-99-SCREAM. Ask for a catalog so you can order. nephend ------------------------------ From: Matthew Souza Subject: RE: I want to be king. The debate can rage on but my original point still holds. Kim looks more like Jesus than Chris. The idea of a European white Jesus is ludicrous. Let's vote on it! ------------------------------ From: Matthew Souza Subject: RE: I want to be king. On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Dan "Pop-tart" Hearsch wrote: > jesus would not have looked more like kim. kim is asian, while jesus was > born in the middle east, but of more european than traditionally viewed > middle eastern or african stock. Jesus' true ancestors would have been > israeli, which come from the same people as iranians, iraqis, > palestinians, israeilis, i.e. the semites, the seven tribes. jesus was > first portrayed in the more popular brown curly hair, goatee, brown eyed, > white skinned look not that long after his death, like around 200 a.d or > something like that, on the shroud of turin, which is the source for most > of the imagery associated with jesus' appearance today. while chris can > be our jesus, kim can be our muhammed. they're both the son of god in > their respective religions. anyway, i still think ted nugent looks more > like jesus than chris. chris is a little bigger physically than i picture > jesus, while uncle ted has that "been living on bread and water for > years" llok to him. > Newsflash: The Middle East is part of Asia. The concensus I have encountered gives little support for a white Jesus regardless of the shroud of turin. In fact, Jesus and Mohammed probably had similar physical features. This debate, however, could drag on endlessly with no agreement considering the scarcity of historical documentation. I still stand by the Kim = Jesus theory. Matthew. ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: RE: I want to be king. At 12:58 PM 10/31/95 -0800, Matthew Souza wrote: > > > The debate can rage on but my original point still holds. Kim looks >more like Jesus than Chris. The idea of a European white Jesus is ludicrous. >Let's vote on it! > >I think Chris looks more like Jesus. I always have.-Sara:-) ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: imho On Halloween, Milkman wrote: >p.s. - What the fuck does IMHO stand for? You've probably already been told this - but imho stands for in my humble opinion. Cheers Carolyn the Melodic Fantasia ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And it's raining icepicks on your steel shore - SOUNDGARDEN Our little group has always been & always will until the end - NIRVANA ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: RE: I want to be king. On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, Matthew Souza wrote: > > The debate can rage on but my original point still holds. Kim looks > more like Jesus than Chris. The idea of a European white Jesus is ludicrous. > Let's vote on it! In that case, i vote for Hiro as Jesus..... ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: RE: I want to be king. Ok, now i'm going to use my exhausted mind to address this Jesus issue. First of all, maybe all the people around Jesus did look like Kim. But, science shows that while it is not likely, it is possible for many races to produse a blonde haired blue eyed individual. This is especially true for African races. And considering the proximity of Egypt (in Africa) to the Middle East, i'd say its possible that Jesus had blonde hair and blue eyes. (So Matt would play the role). But, just because it's *possible*, doesn't mean it's what exactly occured. And since i know too little about history to speculate, i'll say that any of sg's current or former members could resemble Jesus, even Hiro. Well, maybe not Jason Everman..... but you get the point. -j ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Geoff Kleemola Subject: Re: BMF vs. BMF/SOMMS Tell ya what, Seth, I'll trade you my normal copy of BMF for one of your SOMMS discs. Sound alright? Sounds alright to me! -the mailman ------------------------------ From: Minerva657@aol.com Subject: Re: I want to be king In a message dated 95-10-31 01:34:31 EST, you write: > >Why does everyone think Cornell would make a good Jesus Christ? If you >ask me Kim is a dead ringer for a historically correct Jesus. (Refer to >band photo on Badmotorfinger). > >P.S. Jeff Ament = worm food > Matthew. i agree with ya' on the Kim=Jesus point, fully. :) oh yeah, and the Jeff Ament thing, i'd rather it was Eddie Vedder....oh well, maybe it's just me. (: - -danielle ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: beyond the fruit stall... On Tue, 31 Oct 1995, The Back Door Man wrote: > Hi guys. Now that all of my midterms are done I'm back on the list. > First of all, I got a "ticket" for this Cyberian Rhapsody thing but I > don't really know what it is. Any answers? Second, I had the opportunity > to watch Motorvision for the first time this past weekend. I liked it, but > did anyone else think the strange camera angles and video effects got kind > of annoying? Third, have I missed any info about the CD-Plus release nice to hear from you again mr. man :) the cyberian thing is going to be an orchestral reading of music by soundgarden, alice in chains and a bunch of other bands I can't rightly remember. ilf and I got our tickets, but exams are probably going to mess up our listening pleasure. as for motorvision, I liked the camera angles. it gave it a cool look. so did jp. but the part I didn't like much was the band history. I'm all for hearing band histories, but not when they're all slowed down so it's a little harder to understand. but it's got the only version of little joe that I ever liked. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: RE: I want to be king. Well, my thoughts on outfits for Halloween would be the following (I'm avoiding the whole Jesus bit!) : Chris Cornell - Put on a bit of makeup, keep the hair short and have a moustache, and he could dress as Saddam Hussein (OK, so his skin needs to be a bit darker, face plumper etc.etc., but do you get the drift?) Kim Thayil - he could be Jim Martin (guitarist) from Faith No More - just put on the two sets of glasses etc.etc. - now, that would be scary! Ben Shepard - Lurch from the Addams Family Matt Cameron - Bud from Married with Children Call me crazy - I've got these mental pictures and they're great! Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: rusty cabbage... just a little tidbit. I read that chris and eddie vedder may be singing on the next parliamentary funk album with george clinton. I think that would sound kinda wierd. but look out for it. you never know. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: grendel Subject: favorite Seattle song lyric Yeah, OK, I know that this topic was old several weeks ago, but this lyric just popped into my head, and it has to be my favorite Seattle lyric of all time, so here it is: "the pain of knowing what can never be" Why, yes, that _is_ Queensryche off of Operation: MindCrime (no, I don't remember the particular song title, maybe "Eyes of a Stranger"????). It may be blasphemous to lump Queensryche in with the other Seattle bands. I know, it was the sort of stuff you used to listen to in high school. But MindCrime was a damn fine CD. And that particular lyric seemed to sum my life up pretty well at the time. So that's the what and the why. scott ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Re: Alive in the Superunknown? (fwd) Hey guys. Look what I just got from sgkots@aol.com: - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 31 Oct 1995 18:14:29 -0500 From: Sgkots@aol.com To: RFILIPEK@falstaff.ucs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: Alive in the Superunknown? ROSS, ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN IS SCHEDULED TO BE RELEASED ON NOVEMBER 21. IT WILL BE AVAILABLE AT ALL COOLER MUSIC AND SOFTWARE STORES. KOTS ------------------------------ From: The Back Door Man Subject: Kim & Jesus? Does it matter if they look alike? I'll bet that Jesus couldn't play Outshined (or any other SG stuff for that matter). BDM "If there's a higher power at work here he either has a weird sense of humor or way too much time on his hands." --R. Green -------------------------- End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 87] ***************************************