From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Friday, 20 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Fri, 20 Oct 1995 01:28:42 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Friday, 20 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ **listadmin note: sorry about the guy who posted two messsages to this list today; he's been warned not to do it again. Today's Topics: lookin' california Speaking of Netiquette... About Deep Purple - Not SG Jason Everman, retarded stepchild? Jason Everman Netiquette? Please! Re[2]: Artis Re: Black Hole Sun... (fwd) Favorite song First Soundgarden Experience Re: Soundtable? She likes surprises Re: Favorite song BHS, Outshined, Crimson, SAP, nonsense Re: SG song, location, Kurt Cobain getting to know you-member directory Re: Favorite song Looking California BHS, Outshined, Crimson update.......... Re: BHS, Outshined, Crimson update.......... Two questions. Re: SG song, location, Kurt Cobain How many Daniels? ------------------------------------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: lookin' california now that the list is up around three hundred members, I'm going to re ask a question I posted about three and a half months ago. has anyone else seen the two different versions of the outshined video? I have both on tape, but I have never heard from anyone who has seen them both. I read that there were two done, the major release one and an even better version than that. can anyone confirm this? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com Subject: Speaking of Netiquette... Sorry to state the obvious, but... If you're going to flame, keep it OFF the list. Better yet, keep it to yourself. Personally, I'd rather read totally irrelevant posts than read people's COMPLAINTS about them. (Sorry I raised my voice.) Samson PS. Please don't post replies to the list -- I don't want to read this again either :) ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: About Deep Purple - Not SG > > Okay Daniel, you just walked on my bad side. As the list holds their breath, > Jamie is going to flame - Naaaaa, you all know better than that. But, Daniel I > love Deep Purple - early Deep Purple before Coverdale - well I did like the > Come Taste the Band record (Coverdale and Tommy Bolin) For those of you who > don't know who Tommy Bolin was - he "was" (he did a Jimi Hendix) one of the > best guitar players in the late 70's early 80's (I may be wrong on the dates - > but who cares) just check out any of the Zypher albums. > > BTW: Coverdale couldn't sing his way out of a paper bag - compared to Chris > Cornell. The stuff he did on Whitesnake or the work he did with Jimmy Page was > passable only. > > Jamie > Oh dear! Jamie, sorry for appearing to trash Deep Purple out of turn, I love most of the 70's bands, Zep, Sabbath, Floyd,Rush etc I could just never get into DP. What I meant about Coverdale & Plant is that with all this comparing going on, on the list to me the only singers that sound ANYTHING like CC are those two. - -- Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Jason Everman, retarded stepchild? > I know that someone said that Jason Everman is now in the army, but I read > something interesting in the Nirvana book "Come As You Are" that may explain > a little bit about why he left both bands. > it also says that he > went on to play guitar in a band called Mindfunk. Has anybody ever heard of > that band? > > I actually heard he'd joined the Navy. He left Mind Funk to join up, did anyone see any pictures of him when he was in MF? He had the most ridiculous WWII fighter pilot moustache, it was hilarious!! Mind Funk came out in 1990 and were touted as the next big thing, jumping on the Funk Metal bandwagon that was going strong then. They only received a modicum of success and Jason joined them for their second album when you guessed it, they went grunge.....no ones heard from them since!! - -- Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (Muhammad Lee) Subject: Jason Everman Jason Everman is currently a U.S. Army Ranger. A USDA govermentally certified bad motherfucker. Since military units like that focus on team play he's probably a team player now. Clown With Bazooka _______________________________________________________________________________ I stand right next to a mountain, I chop it down with the edge of my hand. -Jimi Hendrix _______________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: Liesl Asiu Subject: Netiquette? Please! Netiquette?! Don't make me laugh! With some of the stuff I have seen floating around lately..... my = message pales in comparison. Anyway, you can't expect to give and not be able to take. And by the way, the latter part of my message was in response to Little = Joe's comments about subject lines, how did you get into it? I just = hope LJ is not as touchy about this friend thing as you seem to be and = took the message in the manner it was intended. A dig in response to a = dig. Honestly, I neither know nor care about the number of friends you = have or don't have. Finally, I will disregard your attempt to question my level of = understanding (your version of a shitty putdown, I take it) so as not to = start one of those ridiculous shouting matches that go nowhere. Yours netiquettily, Liesl - ---------- From: blind dog[SMTP:s325961@student.uq.edu.au] Sent: Thu 19 October 1995 11:12 To: Liesl Asiu Cc: 'somms@MIT.EDU' Subject: have you heard of netiquette? On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, Liesl Asiu wrote: > Little Joe, I think you and Blind Dog have very apt names - Little = minds and Blind to anything you don't agree with. > Sara was just trying to promote friendship. OK maybe you don't need to include your height, weight and educational background etc. but what is the sense in sharing line, if you read EVERYTHING that comes in then maybe you should send = your bio in, you sound like you could use some friends.=20 and you sound like you could use some manners. can't you=20 disagree without resorting to shitty putdowns? I *have* made a lot of friends on this list, and I didn't need to=20 send an account of my height and weight to do it. I did it by sending=20 mail privately to those people I wanted to get to know better. this = list=20 *is* for talking to new people, but not for posting 'hello' messages=20 every twelve hours. can you understand the difference, liesl? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide=20 ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re[2]: Artis According to Cornell, Artis (the 'Spoonman') is an internationally renowned performance artist who, in addition to playing the spoons, writes and recites poetry. He was not homeless when they asked him to do a spoon solo for their record. I believe Artis is from Seattle and came to know Soundgarden through his friendship with Ben Shepard. Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ I heard they found "spoonman" wandering homeless in L.A. ------------------------------ From: Andrew Northcutt Subject: Re: Black Hole Sun... (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:33:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew Northcutt To: Experiment@aol.com Cc: MoonDruid@aol.com, somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: Black Hole Sun... > what the heck, all you SG fans!) heard of SG that got you into them? I also > The Guitarist > I think I saw the video for Rusty Cage and it blew me away! You know, the f#$^^ good riff from the beginning, the guy running and the red light flashing around just made me wanna...wanna...fire...huh,huh...yeah!...hey Bevis...I wanna..like...break somebody's head open...huh...huh. C-YA PEACEMAN-2000 ------------------------------ From: Chris Dawg Subject: Favorite song I would have to say, in my somewhat limited experience, that my favorite SG song would have to be Somewhere. Probably the lyrics do it and the lead guitar hook do it for me. Here's a question to ponder: If there were ever a time that we could get the members of SG to succumb to an interrogation of song meanings, what one song would you have them clear up for you? You see, maybe I'm alone in this thinking, but it is rare that I know exactly what every song is saying on every record. I'm not sure as to what my response to my own question would be at the moment, but I will think of one soon. Plus, any of you who see posts related to a song that you have heard what it is about, PLEASE POST A RESPONSE!!! Love, peace and hairgrease--Chris Dawg ------------------------------ From: gfox@csc.uvic.ca (Greg Fox) Subject: First Soundgarden Experience My first listening experience left a lot to be desired. I got into my friends car, and he had Badmotorfinger blasting, whil I was trying to tell him something. I found the screeching guitar solos very annoying, and generally didn't like them (understatement). A week later or so I borrowed his walkman in a physics class (boring day), and began listening. The same songs just sounded different. They were truly excellent, and a great way to pass a high school class. Since then (approx 4 years ago) I have begun collecting SG albums. I seem to like their older stuff better than the newer. To date I have ten albums with SG songs on them. They are by far my most favorite band out there. Greg Fox ================================================================== |Greg Fox And when your deepest thoughts | |Computer Science, Are broken, keep on dreamin' boy | |University of Victoria Cause when ya stop dreamin its | |gfox@csc.uvic.ca Time to die | |http://www-engr.uvic.ca/~gfox Blind Melon '92 | - ------------------------------------------------------------------ |Now the new CSCU Extra Curricular Co-ordinator. | - ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: gfox@csc.uvic.ca (Greg Fox) Subject: Re: Soundtable? Anyone ever find out what the Knights of the Soundtable is? Is it some kind of fan club or what? Any info send to the list, or me at gfox@csc.uvic.ca Later Greg ================================================================== |Greg Fox And when your deepest thoughts | |Computer Science, Are broken, keep on dreamin' boy | |University of Victoria Cause when ya stop dreamin its | |gfox@csc.uvic.ca Time to die | |http://www-engr.uvic.ca/~gfox Blind Melon '92 | - ------------------------------------------------------------------ |Now the new CSCU Extra Curricular Co-ordinator. | - ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen <"Chicka Jackeen"@email.unc.edu> Subject: She likes surprises Could anyone send me the lyrics to She likes Surprises? Thanx in adv. -j ------------------------------ From: mrl5@Lehigh.EDU (Muhammad Lee) Subject: Re: Favorite song >Here's a question to ponder: If there were ever a time that we could get the >members of SG to succumb to an interrogation of song meanings, what one song >would you have them clear up for you? You see, maybe I'm alone in this >thinking, but it is rare that I know exactly what every song is saying on every >record. I'm not sure as to what my response to my own question would be at the >moment, but I will think of one soon. Plus, any of you who see posts related >to a song that you have heard what it is about, PLEASE POST A RESPONSE!!! I would like to know what "Black Hole Sun" is about. Secondly who here besides me would like to Hear Soundgarden Cover, "Fall on Me", "Summerland", "Over My Head" all by kings X. Secondly who would like to hear Kings X cover "fobds", Room a thousand years wide, and fourth of July? Clown With Bazooka Love, peace and hairgrease--Chris Dawg ------------------------------ From: Frizzle Fry Subject: BHS, Outshined, Crimson, SAP, nonsense Hi everyone! OK, first of all, how can any sane human being NOT like Black Hole Sun???? I can understand the whiny guitar on the verses and the weird video that nobody likes and all that, but, damn, the first time I heard Superunknown, Head Down was the song to make my ears perk up and then BHS bashed them in! You know why it's a good song? No matter how much it gets "Played out" on the radio or MTV, I can still feel the emotion the song conveys as well as the first time I ever heard it. So there! Second, about the lyrics to Outshined. I am from California. Oakland, California. The Bay Area. The ever so beautiful Bay Area. Where Primus is from, no less. Northern California is beautiful, the most beautiful state in the union, in my opinion, and I've seen most of them. However, the Central Velley and southern California (hell) is a pit of abandon. Everything is deveopled, no country, no trees, no hills and parks and stuff, just cheap housing covering the entire fucking once-beautiful California landscape. When Chris sang "I'm looking California," he meant, "I'm looking like a great big cesspool of crap." Been to Minnesota in the winter, too, when my band cut our CD. It was 40 fucking below zero. It was unsafe to be outside. I have never been chilled down past my bones to my very soul before until I went to Minnesota in December. Feeling Minnesota, as Chris put it, is not feeling happy. For the older members on the list (Jamie, perhaps?) who remember the 70's, were any of you into King Crimson?? I just got a KC album called "Red" and it is blowing me away. Bill Bruford is a monster behind the drum kit. Robert Fripp is a maniac on the frets, too. I love every song, but especially "one more Red nightmare". Bruford starts raging in that song. Anyways.... Anyone whos's going to be in a 300 mile radius of Wake Forrest University has to come see my band in April as we open for Dave Matthews Band. April 19th and 20th. See you there hopefully! I forgot who asked, but the album with Chris singing with Alice In Chains is SAP. You must own this album. If you do not, leave your computer immediately and go buy it. SG song of the week: Mind Riot. Now--I've heard a few people state their dislike for this song. You people are enigmas, a complete mystery. What makes you people tick? I cannot comprehend your reasoning for not liking this song. People I know say it makes them feel "ill, sick, depressed, lonely, tired, queasy, melancholy, etc." Maybe that was the point of the song, eh? In that case, SG succeeded in conveying that feeling to you. Personally, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. That's why it's my personal choice for the SG song of the week. L8! ------------------------------ From: walter o weckmann Subject: Re: SG song, location, Kurt Cobain What is the deal with all of this Courtney-bashing? I haven't been keeping up to date on my news lately, so please let me know what the deal is. I mean, obviously, she is a first-class bitch, but what does that have to do with the death of Kurt Cobain? Did she kill him? I had heard that she was hiring a private investigator, because there were some clues or something that Kurt didn't kill himself, but was murdered. Any truth to this? I would appreciate any info on this subject, even vague rumors. walt ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: getting to know you-member directory Ok everyone. I am sending the descriptions to seth, and he will be putting them on the member directory. So, if you want to read them, look for them there. Everyone(including me) can stop fighting now(please?) and get along again. On a different note, my tapes from Dana came in the mail today!! I am so excited! I'll talk to you all tomorrow about them, and I'll probably have a lot of questions. I hope everyone doesn't mind answering them. Talk to you later.-Sara:>) ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Re: Favorite song > > >>Here's a question to ponder: If there were ever a time that we could get the >>members of SG to succumb to an interrogation of song meanings, what one song >>would you have them clear up for you? You see, maybe I'm alone in this >>thinking, but it is rare that I know exactly what every song is saying on every >>record. I'm not sure as to what my response to my own question would be at the >>moment, but I will think of one soon. Plus, any of you who see posts related >>to a song that you have heard what it is about, PLEASE POST A RESPONSE!!! > I would like to know what "Black Hole Sun" is about. Secondly who here > besides me would like to Hear Soundgarden Cover, "Fall on Me", > "Summerland", "Over My Head" all by kings X. Secondly who would like to > hear Kings X cover "fobds", Room a thousand years wide, and fourth of July? > Clown With Bazooka > > > > > >Love, peace and hairgrease--Chris Dawg > >What I think Black Hole Sun is about is like all blackness coming over the world and covering it up. Washing away all the misery and tears(wash away the rain). Kind of like intervening in our lives and saving us all from misery by living. I don't know if I am getting what I am trying to say across, but it was a nice try. He also mentions us disappearing (till we all just disappear), which kind of supports my idea. Like, if a black sun comes, then everything will be black, we will not be living anymore, and no one will be in pain anymore. Everything just disappears. Anyway, that is my take on the song.-Sara > ------------------------------ Subject: Looking California From: nephend@usa.pipeline.com (nancy e phend) Saw your post on the Outshined videos. I have the copy of the one on the Motorvision Video put out in conjuction with the Badmotorfinger release. You say you have both versions. How are they different? This one is the only one I have ever seen. nephend ------------------------------ Subject: BHS, Outshined, Crimson update.......... From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >OK, first of all, how can any sane human being NOT like Black Hole >Sun???? I can understand the whiny guitar on the verses and the weird >video that nobody likes and all that, but, damn, the first time I heard >Superunknown, Head Down was the song to make my ears perk up and then BHS I like BHS, but found the video lacking - to cute - other than it did show some nice shots of the band. I really hate videos that only show quick little cuts of the band..... >Chris sang "I'm looking California," he meant, "I'm looking like a great >big cesspool of crap." Disagree - I think he is saying he looks like the healthy, beautiful, my shit don't stink Hollywood look. The image most people think about when someone proclaims they are from Calif. - present company excluded I'm sure. Frizzle Fry doesn't have this attitude he is one cool guy. >Minnesota in December. Feeling Minnesota, as Chris put it, is not feeling happy. Agree..... >For the older members on the list (Jamie, perhaps?) who remember the >70's, were any of you into King Crimson?? I just got a KC album called >"Red" and it is blowing me away. Bill Bruford is a monster behind the Yes, I remember and saw King Crimson perform - you name the band and I'm sure I saw them. But, I don't have any of their music. Hey, I worked for $89 every two weeks, had to buy the stuff I was really into. One hell of a clime up the old corporate latter. >Anyone whos's going to be in a 300 mile radius of Wake Forrest University has to come see my >band in April as we open for Dave Matthews Band. April 19th and 20th. See you there hopefully! Wait, Wait, is that Wake Forest Univ. in Pennsylvania? Please say I have the right college in mind. They had an all star basketball team and a big basketball hall of fame player many years ago - his name was Lenny Chappell. Is this the college, please say yes!!!!! If it is - do I get to come back stage?????? Come on EJ - say the words that will make me happy...... Jamie ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: BHS, Outshined, Crimson update.......... On Thu, 19 Oct 1995, Jamesetta Simpson wrote: > >Anyone whos's going to be in a 300 mile radius of Wake Forrest University has > to come see my >band in April as we open for Dave Matthews Band. April 19th > and 20th. See you there hopefully! > > Wait, Wait, is that Wake Forest Univ. in Pennsylvania? Please say I have the > right college in mind. They had an all star basketball team and a big > basketball hall of fame player many years ago - his name was Lenny Chappell. > Is this the college, please say yes!!!!! If it is - do I get to come back > stage?????? Come on EJ - say the words that will make me happy...... Say she's wrong!!!! (No offense Jamie) Its Wake Forest University right here in North Carolina, right? Tell me!!!! Backstage? That would be pretty cool, EJ. Tell me it's in NC!!!!!!!!!! ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Two questions. 1) Seth has hinted that there is someone else on this list from UNC-Chapel Hill. Where are you????????? I can not find a soundgarden fan on this campus. Hell, i can't even find an alternative music fan. I need a fellow fan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Please contact me if you would, fellow Tar Heel. 2) Has anyone seen the video for the day i tried to live and if so, what do you think of it. I saw it once at three in the morning and i was really out of it, so i don't remember much about it. I remember Chris wrapped in the mic cord and hanging from the ceiling. That's about it. I need to see that video again. Ok, now "Mind Riot" just protected my insanity from a group of girls singing a bunch of old cheesy music (YMCA, California Dreaming, My boyfriend's back, etc.) Luckily, w/ my voice projection skills, i had the ability to sing louder than all 4 of them combined. (Thank you, drama class) So if anyone says anything about mind riot right now i will send the powers of cheesy music to defeat you. Ok, i'm done ranting now. -j ***************************************************************************** "I'm luck's last match struck in the pouring down wind." -Soundgarden ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Dan \"Pop-tart\" Hearsch" Subject: Re: SG song, location, Kurt Cobain On Thu, 19 Oct 1995, walter o weckmann wrote: > What is the deal with all of this Courtney-bashing? I haven't been > keeping up to date on my news lately, so please let me know what the deal > is. I mean, obviously, she is a first-class bitch, but what does that > have to do with the death of Kurt Cobain? Did she kill him? I had heard > that she was hiring a private investigator, because there were some clues > or something that Kurt didn't kill himself, but was murdered. Any truth > to this? I would appreciate any info on this subject, even vague rumors. > > walt > if i were married to courtney love, i'd kill myself too. so, in a sense, yeah, she did kill him, but he also killed himself. he married her ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: How many Daniels? Okay, this has been bugging me for a while. I'm curious: how many Dans/Daniels are there on this list??? Daniel Garrett Dan Hearsch Daniel Ladle Daniel Rosendahl Any others? Carolyn the Man Fooler ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm so happy cause today I found my friends - they're in my head Our little group has always been & always will until the end **NIRVANA** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 75] ***************************************