From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Thursday, 19 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Thu, 19 Oct 1995 00:33:56 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Thursday, 19 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ Today's Topics: Re: somms Soundgarden Soundgarden Soundgarden, and Soundgarden. SOUNDGARDEN Post topics Re: mistake Re: SG soundalikes Re: Believe it or not... Re: Sorry!!! Re: getting to know you Can't think of an appropriate caption Re[2]: Believe it or not... catching up Attn my Californian cousins! Re: Outshined Re: SOUNDGARDEN Re[2]: somms AIC & CC Re: Screaming Life Re: Spoonman? vinyl lists first sg discovery Re: Confusion . . . Re: Hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me Re: Foppbomb Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 18 Oct 1995 Getting to know you-problems Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 18 Oct 1995 Jason Everman, retarded stepchild? About Deep Purple - Not SG - so trash if not interested except Daniel Garrett i have a problem. My first SG have you heard of netiquette? Re: Peyote & Tunings cd-plus Re: Somms t-shirt The end? NEVER! Re: have you heard of netiquette? Re: SG song, location, Kurt Cobain ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Zaiga Menke Subject: Re: somms On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, John Darron wrote: > What became of the t-shirt idea? Umm, my design proposal will be ready after few days. I could send it to everyone who wants. Just email me... > John Zaiga PS: to moondruid: sorry for delay, i was really busy all the time. ------------------------------ From: scsmeyri@ucsalf.ac.uk (stacy.meyrick) Subject: Soundgarden Soundgarden Soundgarden, and Soundgarden. I see the subject has changed from bands ripping off bands to bands ripping off songs. I can't deny the latest statement really impresses me, the U2/Soundgarden debate. I think when you look SO close into a song you'll find similarity, it's inevitable. In fact, the other day I noticed, purely by chance, that the finishing riff in "SuperUnknown" sounds almost identical to the end credits in this really dodgy 80's TV series called "The Equalizer", but that's musical integrity for you. As for whether I agree, I couldn't care less, I like both. I'd like to know how you categorise someone as a "non fan" (the words of LaMONT) or for that matter, a fan. How much do you have to like something before you can be labelled a fan. or how little before you become a non fan? I also agree with Carolyn, I think music videos CAN cloud judgement. Many bands do this, including Soundgarden, it's a comercial move to sell more records, and many people fall for it. The only Soundgarden videos I've seen are "Jesus Christ Pose" and a few seconds from "Black Hole Sun". With video, the music is irrelevant, it just amasses as visual effects, and portrayed by it's medium as something acceptable. For example, the increase in Soundgarden's popularity from "Black Hole Sun", as oppossed to anything before it. ------------------------------ From: VANDEVW9571@uni.edu Subject: SOUNDGARDEN I LAST HEARD THAT THEY WERE IN THE RECORDING STUDIOS, BUT HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING SINCE THEN. FOR ALL OF YOU WHO THINK THAT SPOONMAN WAS THE BEST SONG ON THEIR LAST CD, YOU ARE CRAZY. THE BEST SONG ON THE CD WAS MAILMAN. SPOONMAN MIGHT BE ONE OF THE WORST SONGS ON THE CD. GOTTA RUN TO CLASS. ------------------------------ From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) Subject: Post topics To Somms@MIT.edu Having subscribed to a couple of music groups for the past year, I would have to say that this is my faveorite post by far. I can't blame the people who want to unsubscribe (get the address right tho) because if you don't read teh posts, all you see is 40 or 50 postings on your mail address. Anyway, the writing is the strongest part of this post, I think. Too many other posts just focus on BS topics like B-sides and collective rareties. For those who collect them, that's cool, I imagine myself wanting to buy a couple of SG rarities when I have the cash. But I think you also need feedback, like why did you get in to Soundgarden or what was your favorite experience with a certain album. I had better words to express this posting, but its 8:15 am and I have class in 15 minutes, so my thinking is muttled. My Thoughts Later Peace ------------------------------ From: Milkman Subject: Re: mistake It's alright, but DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAIN, BONGHOLE! On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, BdMtrFngr wrote: > I know, it is Ultramega Unknown, now supermega. Thanks to all would-be > flamers. > ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: SG soundalikes Take CC's voice for instance. If there > were others that sounded like him, I'm sure that they'd hAve a tad more > self respect than to put a band together sounding like SG. I am unsure > of my exact point but I hope you see what I am getting at. > > Cheers > -Ben..... I think the only other singers in the world who could or did sound like CC are David Coverdale & Robert Plant. Ol' Panty has pretty much lost his now and Coverdale may have a good voice but it was wasted in all the shit bands he's been in (Purple, Whitesnake etc). Its on Outshined where CC sounds most like these two hasbeens!! What does anyone think of Show Me on the No Alternative album, i'm not that keen Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: Milkman Subject: Re: Believe it or not... On Mon, 16 Oct 1995 ansel@morgan.com wrote: > At the first of two shows SG played at New York's Armory > last year (there is a bootleg available of the second nights > performance), Chris broke into "Well, you can tell by the > way I use my walk, I'm a woman's man...no time to talk." Which night was this? The other day I bought the bootleg "Live at the Armory" from the 6/17/94 show. This, by some strange act of fate, was the same night that OJ made a run for the border on national TV, and Chris made some comments about him in between songs. ------------------------------ From: Milkman Subject: Re: Sorry!!! Don't be sorry. If some people don't want to read this, they don't have to. That's why we have subject lines. I thought it was interesting, since I now know that there is someone on the list who is from the same area of California as my girlfriend, who just moved here. Now I can check up on everything she told me. On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Sara Louise Hoeck wrote: > I'm sorry everyone had to read the people's descriptions. I thought people > would be interested. I guess not. > Justin-I am sorry. I didn't mean to waste your time. You have to admit, > while being very annoying to some people, it was a good thought if not a > good idea. YOur right, the list is for talking about Soundgarden and other > musical groups. Is that okay now?-Sara > > ------------------------------ From: Milkman Subject: Re: getting to know you On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, LITTLE JOE wrote: > Go blind dog, > You are right on the money. Who wants to hear bios of all these > people, I don't even think that any of them have posted before! I do. There are some biggots on the list (like BdMtrFngr) who feel that nothing is worth their time to read unless they don't already know it and it's about SG. I disagree with this. I'm here for pleasure, not business. > As for the subject line determining the value of a message, this is fairly > dubious. I still feel obliged to read any message that comes into my box > regardless of the subject line, especially lately when messages that > aren't delete worthy are few and far between. Getting to know each other > is fine, but isn't that what the member directory is for. Posting this > sort of thing to the list just means another thread of Soundgardenless > material destined for the delete button. I suggest you read the subject line - you can learn a lot from it. ------------------------------ From: Kate Mercier Subject: Can't think of an appropriate caption 1) I KNEW that if I waited long enough, I would find out what SOMMS meant! That's even a better palindrome than Madam I'm Adam or God And A DNA Dog! What I want to know is, HOW in the HELL did someone figure out how to write that???? 2) As per someone's request: the first SG song I heard that got me into Soundgarden (I mean REALLY into SG), had to be Outshined. Because that's when I first associated the name with the (FACE!:-) and the sound. Yes, even though I've scoffed inthe past at BlackHoleSun MTV converts, I guess I'm just some sort of a primordial precursor to them. Ahem. 3) Also, as far as location goes, I am at Humboldt State University in Northern California. Which means that I have to go to the Bay Area or to Sacramento to see shows. And that's a long drive, believe you me. Where is everyone else at? 4) also: Carolyn... about the Kurt Cobain thing... never say never. Just because someone hasn't been arrested for a "murder" that may or may not have happened, doesn't exclude that as a possiblity. I have it on reasonably good authority that Courtney IS evil incarnate... and that something smells where she dwells. You can't eat soup out of a good try--- Kate ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re[2]: Believe it or not... They played two nights successively. I was referring to the June 16th show. Apparently, there is no boot available. :( Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Which night was this? The other day I bought the bootleg "Live at the Armory" from the 6/17/94 show. ------------------------------ From: 945818@utb.edu Subject: catching up it's been quite a while since i have posted anything. it's not that i don't want to, it's just that i haven't had anything to talk about. until now that is. i listened to outshined quite a bit over the weekend (for some reason my cd player was stuck on repeat one for about an hour without me realizing it). i never really studied the words for it, mostly just singing along. i finally took some time and looked at em, and it kinda disturbed me. well, not really disturb, but at least a double take. chris sings about being very depressed, as in the phrase I got up feeling so down, i got up feeling sold out. then later on in the song he says I'm looking california, and feeling minnesota. this part i couldn't really understand. is he saying that he knows he looks good on the outside, but he feels like shit on the outside? any comments on this would be welcome. jennifer ------------------------------ From: Liesl Asiu Subject: Attn my Californian cousins! Hi guys! This is not really SG related but I wanted to know if you have ever = heard of a drummer named Larry Aberman or a guitarist named Marti = Fredrickson. They were in a nowhere band called Outlaw Blood, which = came out with one CD which failed miserably. I know this is a long shot = but Larry is an old friend and I wondered if he eventually made it, = after all he was the one who introduced me to SG in the first place. Thanks a million. Liesl ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re: Outshined I don't think Chris has a very positive view of California -- home of spandex glam rock in the '80s. I believe Chris meant the lyric looking California to express looking ridiculous and feeling Minnesota to mean cold and empty. Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ is he saying he looks good on the outside, but feels like shit? any comments ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: Re: SOUNDGARDEN Dude, why are you screaming? (take your caps lock off!) On Wed, 18 Oct 1995 VANDEVW9571@uni.edu wrote: > I WAS WONDERING IF ANYONE HAS HEARD ABOUT THE RELEASE OF A NEW SOUNDGARDEN CD? > > I LAST HEARD THAT THEY WERE IN THE RECORDING STUDIOS, BUT HAVE NOT HEARD > ANYTHING SINCE THEN. > > FOR ALL OF YOU WHO THINK THAT SPOONMAN WAS THE BEST SONG ON THEIR LAST CD, YOU > ARE CRAZY. THE BEST SONG ON THE CD WAS MAILMAN. SPOONMAN MIGHT BE ONE OF THE > WORST SONGS ON THE CD. > > GOTTA RUN TO CLASS. > > > ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Re[2]: somms Ask Seth to put your work on our artwork page for all to enjoy -- even if it never becomes the SOMMS list T-shirt. Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Author: Zaiga Menke at nylanr01 my design proposal will be ready after few days. ------------------------------ From: DanaBT@aol.com Subject: AIC & CC I know this has been discussed before so I'm sorry for the repetition, but I was wondering if someone could refresh my sluggish memory as to the name of the cd in which AIice in Chains and Chris perform together. I definitely would like to try and obtain that one!! Thanks, Dana ------------------------------ From: Ethan Hennessey Subject: Re: Screaming Life Yeah, it's a book that an early Seattle scene photgrapher has put together. It includes early photos of pretty much all of the up and coming stars, SG, Green River, Nirvana, Mudhaney, U-men, etc. It also includes a CD with stuff by lots of early artists, including Soundgarden. Probably all previously released stuff, though. - ----Ethan On Thu, 12 Oct 1995 foreshocks@bbs.cowland.com wrote: > Anyone see this on MTV? Whenever I'm on the computer I usually have the > TV next to me on MTV with the volume turned off, and I turned to look at > the TV, and Alison Stweart was talking about something and next to her > was one of those news things, and it was the cover of a book that said > Screaming Life on it. I was all "!!!!" so I turned it up and listened; I > guess Screaming Life is a book about the Seattle scene, written by the > guy who wrote the Nirvana autobiography. I was hoping it was a > Soundgarden biography, god knows I've been dying for one of those, but I > guess not. Anyone have any info on this??? > -Foreshocks > > > ------------------------------ From: Ethan Hennessey Subject: Re: Spoonman? Well, personally, I think that melodic litttle guitar thing at the beginning is way too cheesy for a soundgarden song. I mean, I could see it from Motley Crue or something, but SG is above that. Otherwise, it's not a bad song. - ----Ethan On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, LaMONT SANFORD wrote: > Wow, you are the first person I have met that didn't like Black Hole > Sun. I take a step back and wonder: How? What didn't you like? It's > the perfect blend of Beatles and Ozzy years Sabbath, and yet distinctly > SOUNDGARDEN. > > > Jesus saves the souls of sinners and redeems them for valuable cash prizes > Don't try to kill your time, you might do it, then you can't change your mind > > =============================================================================== > SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS > =============================================================================== > > ------------------------------ From: Ethan Hennessey Subject: vinyl lists Ok, if we're going to be posting vinyl lists....here's a start... Fopp Live! b/w Sub Pop Rock City Live! (#'ed, 500 copies, 1988 tour thing) Screaming Life (Orange Vinyl, autographed) ltd. to 600 copies Fopp 12" Ultramega OK (test pressing) Flower 10" Flower 12" Loder than Live Loud Love 12" (etched) Loud Love 7" Loud Love (US Promo) Hands all Over 10" (gatefold) Hands All Over 12" (US PRomo, autographed) Room A thousand Years Wide b/w H.I.V. baby (5000 copies) Badmotorfinger (yellow vinyl) Rusty cage 12" (Poster bag, etched disc) Rusty Cage 7" picture disc outshined 7" picture disc Jesus Christ Pose 7" Picture Disc Jesus Chrrist Pose 12" (Poster Bag) Jesus Christ Pose 12" (Etched Disc) Come Together (Bootleg with outakes and b-sides) Superunknown (clear vinyl) Spoonman 12" (clear vinyl) Spoonman 7" picture disc The Day I Tried to Live 12" The Day I Tried to Live 7" Picture Diasc Black Hole Sun 7" Picture Disc Fell On Black Days 7" Picture Disc Black Hole Sun b/w Spoonman (Jukebox 45) Fell On Black Days b/w My Wave (jukebox 45) In other words, just about everything except the Louder than Love LP and Hunted Down b/w Nothing to say. - -----Ethan ------------------------------ From: Ethan Hennessey Subject: first sg discovery Ok, let's keep these short. The first sog that got me into Soungarden: Flower (Or maybe Beyond the Wheel) - ----Ethan ------------------------------ From: Ethan Hennessey Subject: Re: Confusion . . . No, sorry. The first LP was Ultramega OK, but before that were two EPs. Screaming Life, and Fopp. On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Kamarrudin Muaz wrote: > > > > > The first album after the demo was Louder Than Love. > > > Um, what are you talking about? -j > ***************************************************************************** > "I don't complain too much. There's just too much wrong with the world." > -Jay Stallings > ***************************************************************************** > > ------------------------------ From: walter o weckmann Subject: Re: Hold me, thrill me, kiss me, kill me On Sat, 14 Oct 1995 MoonDruid@aol.com wrote: > >I have always thought that U2 ripped soundgarden off when they recorded > >Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me (Spoonman sounding). Are their any other > >songs or artists that you feel DIRECTLY stole from soundgarden. > > Really? Soundgardeny? I never liked it at all. U2 sold out. > I think they were aiming at a mix between industrial and alternative. > Too bad, I liked their old stuff. > > Moon Druid > >Hey, Moon Druid >I am happy to know that I am not the only person that thinks that U2 is selling out. I feel that ever since Bono started to become a "sex symbol" , he has started to write lyrics to songs that seem to only want to get the girls horny and happy. Too bad, I also thought U2's earlier stuff was cool. >walt ------------------------------ From: walter o weckmann Subject: Re: Foppbomb I heard that they found the guy that plays the spoons on "spoonman" wandering around homeless in the streets of L.A. He was not a friend of Chris' if there is any truth to this. p.s. I bet that guy isn't homeless any more. walt ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 18 Oct 1995 > >From: "Matthew R. Cruikshank" >Subject: Web site, my posts... > >samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson Frederick M.), your comments are truly >appreciated. I, like you, ... I like you, too (heh, heh, heh). Seriously though, Seth, when you get over the trauma of nearly having lost it, you should adorn the Best Band Page on the Web with those obscure bootleg lyrics. Soundgarden will probably sue you for publishing unauthorized material -- but then you might get to meet them in court. A few points/questions to throw out there: Does anyone know for sure whether CC plays all the instruments in "Songs for Ozzy"? It certainly sounds like a part-time drummer. I've read that he plays all the music on the Temple of the Dog demos. Has anyone else noticed the Godzilla samples in "Fopp"? It's the best thing about the recording. (I used to be a huge Godzilla fan). Mailman is, in the words of the author, "a song about killing your fucking boss." Or it could be about the disgruntled postal worker in all of us. (Personally, I'm gruntled). The video for "BHS" is the worst moment in the band's history. (Not the song, mind you, that would be "Mind Riot") Did anyone else notive that little Eddie Vedder face CC makes when he sings "no one sings like you anymore"? Creepy. - -- Samson All positive assertions registered IMHO (1995) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jesus, I don't like my penis e-mail Stonehenge samm@mail.usa1.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Getting to know you-problems Hey everyone!! Guess what. My computer was being kooky this morning and the descriptions that I received this morning from you guys areall erased. If you sent me your description either last night or anytime today, could you please send it again? please. (yes, I'm begging, but that is because I feel really bad.) Avatar and Daniel Garrett, I know yours erased for sure. Please send themagain. I will send the descriptions out to everyone that sent one, oh and to Jessica, so I'll talk to you tomorrow!!! - -Sara:( ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 18 Oct 1995 From: seth > I like you, too (heh, heh, heh). Seriously though, Seth, when you get over > the trauma of nearly having lost it, you should adorn the Best Band Page on > the Web with those obscure bootleg lyrics. Soundgarden will probably sue > you for publishing unauthorized material -- but then you might get to meet > them in court. I will get to it as soon as I can. As for being sued, Soundgarden is going to have to get in line behind all the magazine publishers who print all that stuff that sooner or later winds up in my scanner. seth ------------------------------ From: DanaBT@aol.com Subject: Jason Everman, retarded stepchild? I know that someone said that Jason Everman is now in the army, but I read something interesting in the Nirvana book "Come As You Are" that may explain a little bit about why he left both bands. As far as Nirvana were concerned, they felt that he was kind of weird, into the rock/God posing crap, and Kurt didn't like that he was very into speed metal. He wouldn't hang out with any of them before or after the shows. They were going to kick him out but they didn't want to hurt his feelings. He left anyway. Then Chris Cornell called him and asked him to join them but was only with them for a few months. Jason said "Each band is a weird, twisted family, I think I was the retarded stepchild twice removed." It also says that he went on to play guitar in a band called Mindfunk. Has anybody ever heard of that band? ------------------------------ Subject: About Deep Purple - Not SG - so trash if not interested except Daniel Garrett From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >I think the only other singers in the world who could or did sound like CC >are David Coverdale & Robert Plant. Ol' Panty has pretty much lost his now >and Coverdale may have a good voice but it was wasted in all the shit bands >he's been in (Purple, Whitesnake etc). Its on Outshined where CC sounds most >like these two hasbeens!! >Daniel Garrett Okay Daniel, you just walked on my bad side. As the list holds their breath, Jamie is going to flame - Naaaaa, you all know better than that. But, Daniel I love Deep Purple - early Deep Purple before Coverdale - well I did like the Come Taste the Band record (Coverdale and Tommy Bolin) For those of you who don't know who Tommy Bolin was - he "was" (he did a Jimi Hendix) one of the best guitar players in the late 70's early 80's (I may be wrong on the dates - but who cares) just check out any of the Zypher albums. Back to the issue - DP did not have allot of big hits, the only hit most people know is Smoke on the Water. But, did you every hear of the Butterfly Ball, or Wizards - how about Sarabanda. Have you ever heard any of the Captain Beyond records? Okay I'll come out of the past. Wait one more did you ever go to a DP concert and see Glover, Blackmore, Gillan, Lord (the true DP line up) play. Did you know that Blackmore studied classical guitar - he just didn't know cords and riffs, he had a total knowledge of the instrument. It was bands like Deep Purple and Led Zep that open the doors to the music you like today. Yes, Yes, I know there were a few others, (Stones and such) but these bands were the turning point for heavy/blues/jass base music that we know and love today. I didn't mean to rattle on. Just let the old bands slowly fade away - don't trash them. Jamie BTW: Coverdale couldn't sing his way out of a paper bag - compared to Chris Cornell. The stuff he did on Whitesnake or the work he did with Jimmy Page was passable only. ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: i have a problem. Someone please help me. I just got the European Spoonman single yesterday and i started singing exit stonehenge in the computer lab. Needless to say, all the other people in here are looking at me funny. Help, before i am attacked!!!!!!!!!!!!! -j ***************************************************************************** "I don't complain too much. There's just too much wrong with the world." - -Jay Stallings ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Glen Ryan Subject: My first SG My first experience with Soundgarden was watching the video to Jesus Christ Pose which totally blue me away. One of my friends had just gotten the Superunknown Album. I was disapointed that the song I just heard wasn't on this ablum But, after hearing that album songs like Fell on Black Days and The Day I Tried to Live just had me hooked.And I quickly got around to getting their other Albums still very Amazed. P.S. Jesus Christ Pose is still my favorite song. G.Ryan ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: have you heard of netiquette? On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, Liesl Asiu wrote: > Little Joe, I think you and Blind Dog have very apt names - Little minds and Blind to anything you don't agree with. > Sara was just trying to promote friendship. OK maybe you don't need to include your height, weight and educational background etc. but what is the sense in sharing line, if you read EVERYTHING that comes in then maybe you should send your bio in, you sound like you could use some friends. and you sound like you could use some manners. can't you disagree without resorting to shitty putdowns? I *have* made a lot of friends on this list, and I didn't need to send an account of my height and weight to do it. I did it by sending mail privately to those people I wanted to get to know better. this list *is* for talking to new people, but not for posting 'hello' messages every twelve hours. can you understand the difference, liesl? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Experiment@aol.com Subject: Re: Peyote & Tunings In a message dated 95-10-16 07:19:24 EDT, you write: >How do the guitarists on this list go for handling Kim Thayil's tunings when >playing SG stuff on guitar? Do you just grin and bear it, tuner close to >hand, or do you have any special secrets that you know to cope with these >tunings? I kinda' grin and bear it . . . and only play one SG song per week . . . and play it a lot . . . then at the end of the week, re-tune and work on the next song . . . I also try to figure out ways to practice songs without changing tuning . . . like 4th o' July will mostly work without the solo (with the solo, it still works, but the solo will be in a different key) . . . and also work a bit on the stuff in D more than other . . . 'cause they use D a lot, so you can play a couple songs per week . . . The Guitarist with a tuner ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: cd-plus for anyone who is interested in the new soundgarden cd-plus release, there is a short (really short) story on it in today's issue of addicted to noise. it's due out on november 21. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Somms t-shirt Chicka Jackeen wrote: >Hey, that's what we should put on the Somnms t-shirt! A twisted fork >design!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!! So who's going to make it? -j Zaiga wrote: >my design proposal will be ready after few days. And Vikki: > Ask Seth to put your work on our artwork page for all to > enjoy -- even if it never becomes the SOMMS list T-shirt. A twisted fork is a great idea, j. Can you work on a design for that also, Zaiga? I too think it'd be worth putting your design on the artwork page, Zaiga, rather than just emailing it privately, so we can all see it if we want to...... Carolyn the Moronic Fool { gee thanks, Alex!! :-) } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm so happy cause today I found my friends - they're in my head Our little group has always been & always will until the end **NIRVANA** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Experiment@aol.com Subject: The end? NEVER! Howdy! I just wanted to let you all know that I'm going to be unsubscribing, that is, until the next album. I'm having trouble with E-mail, and I just can't get this much! But it should be fixed by then . . . MEANWHILE, if you want to talk to me, you can E-mail me directly, just not at the group . . . . The Guitarist ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Re: have you heard of netiquette? > >On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, Liesl Asiu wrote: > >> Little Joe, I think you and Blind Dog have very apt names - Little minds >and Blind to anything you don't agree with. > Sara was just trying to >promote friendship. OK maybe you don't need to include your height, >weight and educational background etc. but what is the sense in sharing >line, if you read EVERYTHING that comes in then maybe you should send your >bio in, you sound like you could use some friends. > > and you sound like you could use some manners. can't you >disagree without resorting to shitty putdowns? > > I *have* made a lot of friends on this list, and I didn't need to >send an account of my height and weight to do it. I did it by sending >mail privately to those people I wanted to get to know better. this list >*is* for talking to new people, but not for posting 'hello' messages >every twelve hours. can you understand the difference, liesl? > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- >Okay, Blind dog, this is in Liesl's defense,but also in mine. For one thing, Liesl is right. There is nothing wrong with being friendly on the list. And on no, it takes up two minutes of your time to read my short little message describing my idea. And your message back tome was anything but polite. Telling me I had a lot to learn because you don't know how to use your delete button? Sorry, it doesn't take much brains to push . The subject line said what it was about. And my idea was not for posting 'hello' messages every twelve hours, it was to promote friendship and comfortability on the list. A lot of people on this list don't post, maybe they don't have the time, or maybe they are just not comfortable talking with people they don't know. Do you understand? Some people only feel natural talking to people they know. Now put this into your head, if you know about someone and where they are coming from, you feel more natural around them. Think about it, huh?-Sara > > ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: What exactly is the twisted fork supposed to be?-Sara ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: SG song, location, Kurt Cobain Kate Mercier wrote: >2) As per someone's request: the first SG song I heard that got me into >Soundgarden (I mean REALLY into SG), had to be Outshined. Well, I'm sorry I'm only a relatively late-comer fan of Soundgarden, because SPOONMAN was the song that took my breath away. Yes, the song that so many people on this list seem to hate! I find it one of the most interesting, different, catchy, rhythmic, pumping, rocking kind of songs I've ever heard. And to turn it up LOUD!! Wow. A gym friend played Superunknown to me, I bought it, loved it, joined this list, bought Badmotorfinger, loved it too (Rusty Cage is now my favourite SG song, possibly my favourite by any band, followed closely by Drawing Flies), will be getting Louder Than Love tomorrow, and will no doubt love that also! Soundgarden just seem to get better, if that's possible, as I delve back into time. So that's thehistory of Carolyn-and-Soundgarden. >3) Also, as far as location goes, I am at Humboldt State University in >Northern California. Which means that I have to go to the Bay Area or to >Sacramento to see shows. And that's a long drive, believe you me. >Where is everyone else at? Most of you know this - but I'm from South Australia. I live in the country. In the wine region of Coonawarra (if there are any red wine drinkers on this list you'll probably have heard of this place - look out for it on the labels in your nearest bottle shop!). And to see shows I also have to go a long way. But I do love living where I do! >4) also: Carolyn... about the Kurt Cobain thing... never say never. >Just because someone hasn't been arrested for a "murder" that may or may >not have happened, doesn't exclude that as a possiblity. I have it on >reasonably good authority that Courtney IS evil incarnate... and that >something smells where she dwells. This is the main reason I responded to Kate's letter (but thought I'd throw my two pennies' worth in about her other points while I was at it). Kate, I certainly haven't disregarded the idea of Kurt being murdered rather than committing suicide. As a Nirvana fan of course I'd rather believe that anyway. And I do think one day this will "all come out in the wash". But still, for now, I think it veeeeery strange that nothing concrete is being done about Tom Grant's investigation.......... And Something Smells Where She Dwells would have to be one of the best phrases I've read for a while! Good for a song title, maybe????? Carolyn the Magnetic Flower ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm so happy cause today I found my friends - they're in my head Our little group has always been & always will until the end **NIRVANA** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 74] ***************************************