From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Wednesday, 18 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 02:08:25 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Wednesday, 18 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/archive/ Today's Topics: last message on getting to know you Web page status Re: Black Hole Sun... FW: getting to know you Little Joe Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 16 Oct 1995 in the beginning... Web site, my posts... Re: SG Videos SG Soundalikes Big Dumb Sex Spoonman fan! More Spoonman big joes .$.02 Kurt's Suicide/Murder Black Hole Sun Vid Buying CD's Anybody else?-getting to know you Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 2 Oct 1995 My soundgarden story back in business First Soundgarden Song Re: SG soundalikes Re: Somms Re: Soundtable? American Woman Yipee!! getting rest of SG tapes Re: SG Videos exit stonehenge. Somms t-shirt ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: last message on getting to know you Yes, it is I again still on the samesubject. I am sorry to the peope that posted to me that wanted people to know about them, and I am also sorry to the people that didn'treally care about my idea and thought that it was a bad idea. Personally, I thought it was agood idea, but since I can see their view points, I guess I should apologize. Sorry again!!-sara ------------------------------ Subject: Web page status From: seth Things are starting to look brighter for the future of the Web page. I've managed to convince those nice sysadmins to take some time out of their busy schedules and actually help a user in trouble (me). So, some of the files are now updated (the 27 new images are available!). The mailing list archive works (only after he said "but you don't have any files in that directory on the old machine" and I went apeshit). The guitar tabs have been temporarily removed, while the revised editions are located along with their index. The resources page seems to have gone the way of the dodo, but I'm searching (with my good eye closed, naturally). The art gallery is back up, as is the list member directory (http://www.sgi.net/soundgarden/list), for which I should be receiving all of your photos any day now, right? So I'm hoping to have everything back to normal tomorrow. I know that you guys have been losing sleep over this (I have, believe it or not), but just stay calm and it will all be over soon. [by the way, the new server is fast fast FAST; Netscape retrieves and loads 100kB JPEGS in less than 2 seconds] seth (listadmin) ------------------------------ From: Frizzle Fry Subject: Re: Black Hole Sun... Hmmm...the first song I heard that got me into SG was Outshined, without a doubt. I don't know anybody who doesn't like that song. My mom likes it, for crying out loud! Anyway, Outshined is a great song, I think it relates to me in a way what Soundgarden is really all about. Every memeber of the band is contributing their own unique style, and I basically have to change my boxers after every time I hear that song. ------------------------------ From: Liesl Asiu Subject: FW: getting to know you Little Joe Little Joe, I think you and Blind Dog have very apt names - Little minds = and Blind to anything you don't agree with. Sara was just trying to promote friendship. OK maybe you don't need to = include your height, weight and educational background etc. but what is = the sense in sharing this mailing list with others when you don't give a = shit anyway. If you guys are only interested in SG facts then buy a = magazine. Or maybe you think we should just continue rambling on about the meaning = of SG songs or Chris Cornell's age or whether Kim is a woman or not. As for the subject line, if you read EVERYTHING that comes in then maybe = you should send your bio in, you sound like you could use some friends. Liesl - ---------- From: LITTLE JOE[SMTP:s327857@student.uq.edu.au] Sent: Tue 17 October 1995 13:57 To: Sara Louise Hoeck Cc: blind dog; somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Re: getting to know you Go blind dog, You are right on the money. Who wants to hear bios of all these=20 people, I don't even think that any of them have posted before! As for=20 the subject line determining the value of a message, this is fairly=20 dubious. I still feel obliged to read any message that comes into my box = regardless of the subject line, especially lately when messages that=20 aren't delete worthy are few and far between. Getting to know each other = is fine, but isn't that what the member directory is for. Posting this=20 sort of thing to the list just means another thread of Soundgardenless=20 material destined for the delete button. ___________________________ =3D ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN =3D = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D =20 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 16 Oct 1995 From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >I'm sure someone on here has a least one Mother Love Bone album. Are they any >good? Do they sound anything like Soundgarden? > > I don't think they sound like soundgarden at all. I do like the music and I > think they would have had much success. > Also, I'm kind of interested in where people on this list are from. I'm from > Portland,Or. > Where's Jamie? > > Jaimee Fennell Jamie's here - always hiding in the shadows of the noon day sun (with the Dark Man). 1. I started listening to Soundgarden because of Mother Love Bone - I'm a big fan. 2 . I hail from the Washington, D.C. area - (Arlington, VA). 3. And I'm as timeless and ageless as the Egyptian sphinx. Jamie ------------------------------ From: jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu (grote) Subject: in the beginning... the song that got me into soundgarden, eh? hmmmmm..... well, the video clip for loud love definitely peaked my interest. enough to prompt me to borrow my friend's louder than love album and give it a few listens. i liked it, but alas i was so young...(letsee...yeah like 15 or something) it didn't quite click with me. i LIKED it, but i didn't have it on the same pedestal where it lies today. so the song that REALLY got me into them would have to be rusty cage, overheard between sets at a friend's gig in a catholic dance hall. (he supplied the music for the intermission, btw...although i think sg is quite appropriate in any religious setting, and would really liven up mass...) i bought badmotorfinger the next day and the rest is history... - -- ######################################################################## # GROTE!!!!! "I don't remember half the time # # If I'm hiding or I'm lost # # jgrotelu@herbie.unl.edu But I'm on my way....." -Chris Cornell # ######################################################################## ------------------------------ From: "Matthew R. Cruikshank" Subject: Web site, my posts... samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson Frederick M.), your comments are truly appreciated. I, like you, am of the opinion that people should utilize all of the information that they have available, and duplicate it as little as possible. Just to defend my position - I hadn't personally seen the discography. The website was acting up, or so I had read in the newsgroup. And, finally, some people in this group don't even know what SOMMS stands for. Every time someone repeats something, it has a TEENSY WEENSY probability of getting through, website or no website. So, in the future, I personally will double-check the website to ensure I'm not just duplicating someone else's effort. I suggest that we all could learn from Samson's advice. Samson, unless the several unrelated sources that I have are all wrong - it was bad heroin - not an overdose, not "better than normal." Bad, as in killer. That's why four other people died that weekend. Andrew Wood was one of my favorite musicians, I still think that Chloe Dancer is better than 90% of all Soundgarden music - I try to do my homework. It was bad heroin. Also - sorry I ragged on your song. :-( But, I mean - hey. "Jesus, I don't like my penis?" What's up with that? I imagine Chris and his penis probably have a very good relationship. Isn't Exit Stonehenge a cover of a song from the movie Spinal Tap? Or, am I just an idiot? Alright, to add my touch to your contribution: (I didn't change much. You were dead right on several of your guesses, but the wording was slightly different in a couple cases, as far as I could tell.) Nowhere But You - ---------------- Nowhere but you I'm gone until I'm within you Nowhere but you There is no (better) place that I've been to And if I'm condemned Let me rest on my pillow And dream of those moments so few And if I'm blessed I'll be chasing your shadow There I go Nowhere but you Nowhere but you Nowhere but you When you were here I thought that I would never miss you When you were gone I felt that I had never lived here And if I'm condemned Let me rest on my pillow And dream of those moments so few And if I'm blessed I'll be chasing your shadow There I go Nowhere Nowhere but you Nowhere but you Nowhere but you Nowhere But you Fluttering - ------------ And drinking dust With eyes of rust Tonight my tears might stain your wings So flutter home 'Cause you're better off alone than with me So hide your face And tie your lace And butterflies across your cheek Forget how soon You'll become a fool for words when I speak Flutter girl You don't want to know what I've lived You don't want to take what I give And I give nothing for free You don't want to know what I've lived You don't want to take what I give And I give nothing for free My hands are rough My fingers cold Your heart's so young and so naive To ever feel For a moment that I might let you believe... I'll melt your smile I'll tear your wings I'll color everything you see So flutter home 'Cause you're better off alone than with me Flutter girl You don't want to know what I've lived You don't want to take what I give 'Cause I give nothing for free And you don't want to know what I've lived You don't want to take what I give 'Cause I give nothing for free (Long solo...) Flutter girl You don't want to know what I've lived You don't want to take what I give And I give nothing for free You don't want to know what I've lived Flutter girl Flutter girl Black Cat (a.k.a. Bellshit) (I don't know if this is posted someplace else, and I'm sorry if it is.) - ---------------------------- Black cat, black cat's gone Gone for good, gone for long Don't believe that he left me alone And I hope he don't come home Looking back, the black (past) Trust him once, lost my map Trust again to save my bones And I never made it back Black cat, black cat's gone Gone for good, gone for long Don't believe I made it home And I hope he don't come home Never had anything Never lose and I never win Lost my only love, never get her back There's a black cat on my back Black cat, black cat's gone Gone for good, gone for long Don't believe that he left me alone And I hope he don't come home Beg for mercy, laying low Down where the poor dogs go Lick my wounds, when (I go home) Death is spiriling down Death is low Black cat, black cat's gone Gone for good, gone for long Can't believe that he left me alone And I hope he don't come home Every day, every hour Another baby's born Going to hang my head, (dry and blind) 'Til the black cat drags it home Black cat, black cat's gone Gone for good, gone for long Can't believe that he left me alone And I hope he don't come home Beg for mercy, I'm laying low Down where the poor dogs go Lick my wounds, when I grow old The sun is down and gone The sun is down The sun is down and gone The sun is down The sun is down and gone The sun is down The sun is down and gone Black cat The sun is down and gone Hope he don't come home I hope he don't come home I hope he don't come home - -Cruikshank ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: SG Videos On Tue, 17 Oct 1995, Carolyn wrote: > Guess what? I've never seen ANY soundgarden videos. I rarely watch > television, be that music shows or anything else. And in Australia we don't > get MTV. > > And you know what? I reckon this is probably a good thing. This way I have > opinions on only the music - the sound - without visual effects clouding my > judgement of bands at all.............. Good point, Carolyn, but your life is just not complete until you see what a brabie on a grill looks like. -j ***************************************************************************** "Two out of three ain't bad. But it ain't a passing grade, either." - -Jay Stallings ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Daniel Garrett Subject: SG Soundalikes I can't see how U2's Hold me, fuck me, suck me sounds anything like Spoonman, I would like to know what the similarities are meant to be. I also want to know which SG song it was that someone on the list claimed STP had ripped Vaseline off of. I can't think of many bands that truly sound like SG or rip off one of their songs, grunge soundalikes usually stick to Pearl Jam & Nirvana, I know Silverchair are alleged to mimic SG but i've only heard like about 30 seconds of their music on the radio so i'll reserve judgement. Saying that there is a horrible band from here in England called The Almighty who totally changed their style after the advent of the "Seattle Sound", from sounding like GnR to a very poor SG imitation. Also heard a tune by a band called Barkmarket on the radio who sounded a bit like SG too, but they were actually ok. Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: nma5382@acs.tamu.edu (Neil Atkinson) Subject: Big Dumb Sex I have been meaning to post this but I never have gotten around to it. In some magazine(I think Alternative Guitar) this summer there was an interview with Kim about all of their songs. In the article Kim basically said that Big Dumb Sex was a joke. At the time all of the pop groups were singing about sex, but they never actually said fuck... When I saw the posting from DanaBT@aol.com It reminded me about that interview. On an entirely different subject I think that one of the reasons that there are so many silent people on this list is that they are probably getting the digest version of the list. I get the digest version. When It gets to me most of the postings are already several hours old. It then sits in my email box until morning(another 8 or so hours). So If I were going to post something It might have already been posted by someone else, or everyone might have already moved onto another topic. Neil "Holy O.J." Atkinson ------------------------------ From: Chris Dawg Subject: Spoonman fan! I kind of dig Spoonman. I don't know what kind of response that may bring, but let it pass. It may not be the greatest piece ever composed, but it has something I can't describe that keeps me hooked. It also has Artis, and I am an extreme fan of bands which endeavor to explore new regions of rock. Using spoons during Matt's solo is sweet!!!! Some other comments while I'm here: 1) Least favorite song: Richard Petty, Son of Kyle (or is it the other way around? I forget, because I never listen to it!!!) 2) What's this talk of "fair weather fans?" The first SG song I heard was "Outshined," obviously in a different era that those "true" fans revel in but I in no way classify myself as a "fair weather fan." 'Nuff said. See you guys around. Love, peace and hairgrease--Chris Dawg ------------------------------ From: Chris Dawg Subject: More Spoonman By the way, have you guys/gals heard the Spoonman remix on the My Wave single someone mentioned before? It's sort of weird, but pretty cool!!! All of those who got on U2 for "copying" Spoonman on the Batman Forever soundtrack, perhaps this is Zooropa influenced? Hmmmm.............. Love, peace and hairgrease--Chris Dawg ------------------------------ From: "Joseph A. Burnett" Subject: big joes .$.02 well, I have to agree with the folks who dislike Black Hole Sun........I just, i dunno, i don't like it all too much......it just doesn't catch me like all the other soundgarden songs do.......radio airplay had zero to do with it, because i heard spoonman probably more on the radio, and i love that goddam song! i think maybe it's that whiny gutar in the back during the verses.... the first soundgarden song that got me was rusty cage.......i don't remember exactly where i heard it, but that intro dragged me in........i remember when i used to train for soccer, i would run to badmotorfinger........jesuschristpose used to give me that extra push (ya know, the intro, where he screams bloody hell)......so.....i guess i'm done now...so bye bIG jOE ------------------------------ From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington) Subject: Kurt's Suicide/Murder I also read that page, and found it very interesting and informative. I find it hard to believe, but I would love to believe that it wasn't a suicide. Thanks to whoever posted the website for that. To keep this SG related ( a little), does anyone know how Kurt's (Nirvana's) relationship with Cornell (SG) was? I know Kurt didn't really like Eddie or PJ, so I just kind of wondered. -Matt ------------------------------ From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington) Subject: Black Hole Sun Vid >>Actually, I thought it was kind of cool, but very weird. Just like the >rest of the video. And that big tongue that comes flying out. What does >everyone else think of this video?-Sara The video was incredible the first 20 times I saw it, but it got a little repetitive after that. (Gee, I wonder why?) But now when I see it I have the same excitement I had the first time. -Matt ------------------------------ From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington) Subject: Buying CD's I was wondering if any of you knew if any of the CD Mail Order companies (ie Columbia House & BMG) sold the older SG albums. I'd like to buy CD's in bulk through one of those companies, but it's not really worth it to me if I can't get the albums I want. I'd appreciate any help I could get. Thanks. -Matt ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Anybody else?-getting to know you Hey guys!! I am in a really good mood right now cause I skipped all ofmy classes! anyway, the point of this post is about the getting to know you descriptions of everyone. I keep getting more and more descriptions from people who thought it was a good idea. I have decided not to post everyone's descriptions to the list, but I will send them to the people that sent me thier description. So, if you want to know about everyone else and you didn't send anything to me, write to me and I will post the descriptions of everyone to you too. Thanks!!!! -Sara:) P.S. Thanks to Liesl who thought it was a good idea and stood up for me. ------------------------------ From: AFNJ84A@prodigy.com (MR CASEY C CAUGHRON) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 2 Oct 1995 - -- [ From: Casey Caughron * EMC.Ver #2.10P ] -- >STICK (heavy bag) - wow. possibly my favorite live band on the face of the earth. (they recently added a new >drummer who doesn't appear on this album--unfortunately--their old one was kind of weak) heavy, screaming >guitars and politi-punk type lyrics sung with style. fans of sg, helmet, and black flag should definitely check this >out. WOW someone else actually mentioned Stick and Kill Creek!!!! Great Great bands. Just some info on Stick. There new drummer (Eric Cohn) is much better. They are getting ready to put out another album, although they are no longer on Arista. I have seen them live many times and I even have video of them playing live a few years ago (worked for an access TV station). The last time I saw them they opened for HUM (what a major DIS). They played mostly songs from there upcoming release (Very GOOD mostly heavier). Can't wait. Here is my regular rotation list of mostly unknow bands: STICK - Heavy Bag KYUSS - REVEREND HORTON HEAT - ACID KING - SHINER SEASON TO RISK GOON Better late than never!! ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: My soundgarden story Allright this is how i got into soundgarden. My first esperience of any soundgarden was outshined on mtv. I liked the song alot but i never bought the album or anything. However, a friend of mine did buy the album, after my continuous badgering to do so. Anyway he did not like the album and after a while gave it to me. I thought it was ok but i really just liked the first two tracks. I didn't think it was anything special(I was vvery delusional at the time). Time went on and one day(last year) i was listening to the album in my car. (At the time superunknown was already out but i wasnt really impressed by spoonman or black hole sun). Anyw, i parked my car for fifteen minutes at school and my cd player was stolen, with the cd in it! That sucked, but i figured, no big loss anyway. About a week later, i heard Fell on Black Days for the first time on my way to school. For the next three weeks i kept hearing this song on the radio and saying to myself or whoever would listen that it was a great song. Finally , then, I bought superunknown. But again i didn't thnk it was great. It was good, not great though. Time passed again and i was fucking arougn on my computer with my friend(same fool who gave me badmotorfinger). We had the cd player on shuffle and superunknown was in the machine. Anyway, the very smart cd player played Like Suicide and Fourth of July in arow. We just looked at each other and said,"did that just rock,or what?" From that day on we both loved the album and i bought Bad MOtor Finger and realized that it ruled equally. I now know that soundgarden rules and am trying desperatley to buy more albums and see them in concert one day. Jay ------------------------------ Subject: back in business From: seth The Web page is once again open for business! All of the links work! The files are back! You people have no idea how much stress this has caused me in the past 5 days... Also, the guy who does the graphics (as if there is anything _besides_ graphics) for the official Soundgarden website saw the page I put up with information about the new album (including the image that I ripped off from him), and sent me email saying that he had lots to add. Doesn't mean he's actually going to send me any, and I probably shouldn't expect an advance copy of the disc in the mail, but we can hope that something good will happen. seth ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: First Soundgarden Song Howdy, I saw that someone was looking into what got us all into SG so I thought I'd put my two bobs worth in. I borrowed a taping of a taape, of a tape etc... of LTL and it just happened to be on Gun. The rest, I guess, is history. Pretty bloody riveting, eh! Cheers - -Ben..... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: Benjamin Jon Macqueen Subject: Re: SG soundalikes Howdy, don't worry man, this isn't a flame! I must say I agree with you. I can honestly say that I have never really heard a blatant ripoff of SG. I think this may mainly be because there are very few people in the world, if any who can do it. Take CC's voice for instance. If there were others that sounded like him, I'm sure that they'd hAve a tad more self respect than to put a band together sounding like SG. I am unsure of my exact point but I hope you see what I am getting at. Cheers - -Ben..... - -s9511466@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au ------------------------------ From: Experiment@aol.com Subject: Re: Somms In a message dated 95-10-15 17:46:42 EDT, you write: >>I would like to second the notion that anyone who could provide >>information leading to the capture of a copy of >>Satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas would be graciously thanked. I don't >>mind if it is w/ BMF. -j > I would like to third that motion. > Clown > > I would like to 5th that notion, I want to find out exactly was Somms IS! The Guitarist-2001 ------------------------------ From: Experiment@aol.com Subject: Re: Soundtable? In a message dated 95-10-15 03:12:24 EDT, you write: > Is the knights of the sound table worth the money? > > What IS the Knights of the Sound table? The Guitarist ------------------------------ Subject: American Woman From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) Okay, ask and you will receive: In a previous posting I stated that I would like to hear Chris do American Woman - not knowing he had cover this song. Any way, Vikki responded that he had done it. And low and behold I have it, well I just got it. I picked up two imports last weekend Omega Paradise and Full on Kevin's Mom. Tonight was the first time I got to play them. And there it was American Woman. The God's are smiling on me. Jamie PS: I like both CD's - I really like Come Together, again another cover (Sly's song I think). They were worth the $40 I put out. ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Yipee!! getting rest of SG tapes Hi! I just had to share my joy! Dana is sending me the rest of the Soundgarden tapes that I don't have. What a nice person, huh? So, pretty soon Iam going to posting on here about all the songs I can now listen to. Have a nice day every one, and if you are a college student, get to your classes!!!!!! - -Sara ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: SG Videos I wrote: >> Guess what? I've never seen ANY soundgarden videos. I rarely watch >> television, be that music shows or anything else. And in Australia we don't >> get MTV. Chicka Jackeen wrote: >Good point, Carolyn, but your life is just not complete until you see >what a barbie on a grill looks like. -j Well, I got a few responses about my original posting (part of it above). It seems I've been very deprived by not having seen a Soundgarden video. BUT NEVER FEAR! Jamie (yes, our village idiot Jamesetta Simpson) has come to my rescue. She will be sending me a video of Soundgarden stuff, so I'll be able to catch up with all you guys already in the know. Thanks a billion, Jamie!! Carolyn the Music-video Fan? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rain spoiled a sunny day till I saw those cleansing drops took the dirt away Ever think about the stones you left unturned? **PENNYWISE** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: exit stonehenge. I just got England's Spoonman single and i have heard Exit Stonehenge for the first time. What possessed Soundgarden when they recorded that? Don't get me wrong, i even like the lyrics, but the music...It just doesn't sound like them. Doesn't mean that i don't like the song, just that it sounds som unsoundgarden.. Once again, the boys prove their diversity. Later all. -j "I'm lucks last match struck in the pouring down wind"-if you don't know, ask somebody. ***************************************************************************** "I don't complain too much. There's just too much wrong with the world." - -Jay Stallings ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Somms t-shirt Hey, that's what we should put on the Somnms t-shirt! A twisted fork design!!!!!! Yes!!!!!!!! So who's going to make it? -j ***************************************************************************** "I don't complain too much. There's just too much wrong with the world." - -Jay Stallings ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 73] ***************************************