From: somms@mit.edu To: somms-digest@mit.edu Subject: Soundgarden Digest, Tuesday, 17 Oct 1995 Reply-To: somms@mit.edu Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 00:39:52 EDT Sender: saperl The Soundgarden Digest: Tuesday, 17 Oct 1995 listadmin: saperl@mit.edu list archive: http://web.mit.edu/saperl/sg/archive/archive.html Today's Topics: Fresh Deadly Rarities? Re: Black Hole Sun... Re: Spoonman? Fork Necklace and Somms Meaning First Soundgarden Song Re: Confusion . . . Re: religion? Re: Famous SG fans Peyote RE: Mother Love Bone-any good? Re: Peyote & Tunings Re: Mailman Need for Gardening... Re: Mother Love Bone-any good? Re: Need for Gardening... Re: Confusion . . . Re: Black Hole Sun... Re: Sabbathy? Re: Peyote & Tunings Re: Ultramega Unknown Re: Black Hole Sun... First SG Experience Cyberian Rhapsody Re: Meaning of Searching with .reply . . Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 16 Oct 1995 Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 16 Oct 1995 hooked on SG? Re: Tunings getting to know you Bootlegs on-line! Re: Bootlegs on-line! B.H.Sun Computer Graphics Re:What got me into SG 665-->667 backwards Re: Demo question Circus mag&Loud Love SG Video Getting to know everyone supermegaunknown somms mistake Re: somms Well Done Kim Thayil Re: Kurt's suicide/murder Believe it or not... Re: Cyberian Rhapsody Re: getting to know you Re: SG Videos Re: Cyberian Rhapsody Re: Circus mag&Loud Love Re: getting to know you mlb and fork necklaces... Re: getting to know you Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 16 Oct 1995 Sorry!!! RealAudio URL ------------------------------------------------------------ From: nf46714@goodnet.com Subject: Fresh Deadly Rarities? Does anyone have any info on the boot "Fresh Deadly Rarities"? I didn't see it on the bootleg discog. While I'm at it, how about the songs Toy Box and Sub Pop Rock City? Good, or throwaways? Thanx for any help. - - Nathan ------------------------------ From: Experiment@aol.com Subject: Re: Black Hole Sun... In a message dated 95-10-14 18:09:10 EDT, Moon Druid wrote: >In my eyes, indisposed, Ethan Hennessy said.. > >>Spoonman I actually liked, in a funky kind o' way, but I hated Black Hole >>Sun from the first time I heard it. 30 seconds into the song, my mind >>was made up. I hate it slightly less now, but radio overkill has about >>nullified that..... > >Oddly enough, that was the song that got me hooked on Soundgarden. I heard >Black Hole Sun on MTV and I HAD to get the album. I thought it was overplayed >but I could never get enough of it. >Spoonman, on the other hand, I never really liked. I thought it was kinda >boring. I don't know why, though. A lot of people really like it!!! > >Moon Druid (the official unofficial Gardener Assistant) > > That gives me an idea for another survey/poll type thing! What was the first song you (the current reader of this E-mail, whomever it may be . . . oh what the heck, all you SG fans!) heard of SG that got you into them? I also saw Black Hole Sun on MTV, but I just couldn't stand that video! Then my friend got the album, and while I was just flipping through its tracks, I heard 4th of July, and BOOM: copied the album to a tape and brought it home. After I got used to it (before Soundgarden, I didn't even like any form of rock music!), I went and got the TAB (guitar music for all you outsiders) for it and . . . . well . . . lived happily ever after? Rocked! . . . yeah, I like that one better . . . What about you folks? The Guitarist ------------------------------ From: Alex Lyberopoulos Subject: Re: Spoonman? I'm a second person that doesn't like black hole that much(it's my second least favourite Superunknown track after 'half'). I don't hate and will listen to it occasionally. It is very Beatles sounding but the main reason I don't like it as much as the others is because it isn't as good :) If it wasn't played so much on the radio maybe it would be different. If i really love a song I wouldn't care how often it was played on radio. So if "Fell on black days", or "The day i tried to live" become huge hits i would still love them. Infact i frequently start humming tdittl out of nowhere. I know most of the lyrics of by heart for that song. PS "I woke the same...as any other day except a voice was in my head.." On Thu, 12 Oct 1995, LaMONT SANFORD wrote: > Wow, you are the first person I have met that didn't like Black Hole > Sun. I take a step back and wonder: How? What didn't you like? It's > the perfect blend of Beatles and Ozzy years Sabbath, and yet distinctly > SOUNDGARDEN. > > > Jesus saves the souls of sinners and redeems them for valuable cash prizes > Don't try to kill your time, you might do it, then you can't change your mind > > =============================================================================== > SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS > =============================================================================== > > ------------------------------ From: GORDON SCHUMWAY Subject: Fork Necklace and Somms Meaning 1) whoever had the Fork necklace: Wanna make some cash? Make me one you'll be in with some dead presidents. I wan't one bad. Get back to me Priority! 2) Should I be disappointed? SOMMS stands for: SatanOscillateMyMetalicSonataS = = = = = = last s optional since it starts over Look at the bottom of this message. Stop you're trying to kill my time It's been my death since I was born Don't try to kill your time, you might do it, then you can't change your mind =============================================================================== SatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataSatanoscillatemYmetallicsonataS =============================================================================== ------------------------------ From: DanaBT@aol.com Subject: First Soundgarden Song I think it was the Guitarist who asked what was the first song, video or whatever that got you into Soundgarden. "Big Dumb Sex", and not for the reasons you may or may not be thinking. Sure, it was kind of simple (compared to some of their other songs) and I thought kind of brazen, yet I found it funny too. Who the hell else had ever come out and simply stated "I want to fuck you" in a song even though there have been probably a million songs written about it, but none near so blatent. It made me laugh and it also made me listen to the rest of the album. It was a hell of a lot better than what was being played on the radio at the time (Poison, Bon Jovi, etc.) even though that's one of the few subjects that those bozos seemed to know about. They just didn't know how to write a good song about it. ------------------------------ From: Kamarrudin Muaz Subject: Re: Confusion . . . On Sun, 15 Oct 1995 Experiment@aol.com wrote: > Wait, okay, how many SG albums ARE there? What are there names? I've only > seen their first one (name forgotten), Badmotorfinger, and Superunknown. What > am I missing? > > > The Guitarist > Hey guys, The first album after the demo was Louder Than Love. Thanks. Andy Wood ------------------------------ From: Kamarrudin Muaz Subject: Re: religion? On Sun, 15 Oct 1995 Experiment@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 95-10-14 13:03:34 EDT, you write: > > >Chris writes a lot of songs having to do with religion and Jesus, etc. I > >get the feeling that he thinks that a lot of organized religion and > >so-called "religious, church-going people" are corrupt and a big joke, but > >I can't figure out what his personal view on religion and spirituality is. > >Judging by the fact that it's on his mind enough for him to write a lot > >about it, I think he must have some personal beliefs, but I've never known > >him to be the type of guy to reveal much about himself through songs or > >interviews (which, by the way, I think is pretty cool because it keeps the > >focus on the music). Anyway, I personally don't think he's an atheist > >because he's a phenomenal musician, and I think music for many people can > >be a spiritual experience, especially if they don't buy into organized > >religion. I don't mean to offend anyone or to start some big debate, I > >just wondered if any of you have any opinions on the subject... > > Krissy > > I dunno, that's something I've often wondered about myself . . . "Down in the > hole, Jesus tries to crack a smile, beneath another shoveload "-4th of July . > . . . kinda' sounds like burying religion . . . makes it seem like he grew up > with religion, but it never came through for him . . . doubting his faith . . > . > > Anyone know about the religious beliefs of any other band members? > > The Guitarist > Well I think I know one guy, He believed in smiling in every band photo.... Well, he's Kim Thayillllll!!! Hehehe.... He's a good guy. Andy Wood ------------------------------ From: Kamarrudin Muaz Subject: Re: Famous SG fans On Sun, 15 Oct 1995 Experiment@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 95-10-14 11:45:29 EDT, Daniel Garrett wrote: > > >I can't believe how Limo Wreck can be anyone's least favourite track off > >Superunknown, sure it is quite dark (evil?) and sounds more in the style of > >the > >Badmotorfinger material (probably why I love it), but Chris's voice sounds > so > >clear and rich on the verse and the guitar harmonics chiming away sound > >amazing, > >even if someone had to provide "guidance" as it states on the album > credits!! > >It's also one of their most Sabbathy songs, which is always a good thing!! > > Well, the only song I actually liked on Badmotorfinger was Searching with My > Good Eye Closed . . . which I cannot interpret since I don't really remember > it very well, except that I really liked it . . . > > What exactly do you mean by a "Sabbathy" song? > > The Guitarist > Well, Guitarist, I agree with you that the BadMotorFinger is one good album of SG His voice resemble that of the Birth Ritual song. I liked the first 3 song and the last one. namely rusty cage outshined slaves & .... new damage Andy Wood ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: Peyote On Sat, 14 Oct 1995, Joseph A. Burnett wrote: > third: where can one get some peyote? Peyote is a special kind of funghi that mexican indians (I guess those from th US too) use to get high and see their Nahual. The Nahual is your guard animal. This is somewhat like the chinese horoscope, only the nahual is not assigned by the day you were born. Here in Mexico you need a special license to get Peyote and it very very hard to find if you don't have it. Indians won't give you because they raise some for their rituals. Due to the fact that Peyote is VERY dangerous, nobody buys it. Be careful, if you leak Peyote, you might get in a trip and never return to reality. URB@NO ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: RE: Mother Love Bone-any good? I have the MLB album. It doesn't sound anythingh like SG but I like it a lot. - ---------- From: "Si tu pouvais savoir..." Sent: Domingo 15 de Octubre de 1995 7:56 PM To: somms@MIT.EDU Subject: Mother Love Bone-any good? I'm sure someone on here has a least one Mother Love Bone album. Are they any good? Do they sound anything like Soundgarden? ------------------------------ From: mm328995@minmet.uq.oz.au (John Grieves) Subject: Re: Peyote & Tunings At 03:57 AM 10/16/95 -0600, URBANO wrote: >On Sat, 14 Oct 1995, Joseph A. Burnett wrote: > >> third: where can one get some peyote? > >Peyote is a special kind of funghi that mexican indians (I guess those from th US too) use to get high >and see their Nahual. That would make sense - there is a band in Australia called Peyote (but I thought that this was a play on words on Ceyote!!!) who opened for Faith No More recently, but read about that elsewhere... How do the guitarists on this list go for handling Kim Thayil's tunings when playing SG stuff on guitar? Do you just grin and bear it, tuner close to hand, or do you have any special secrets that you know to cope with these tunings? Jackhammer. ------------------------------ From: Greg Bensimon Subject: Re: Mailman On Sat, 14 Oct 1995, Matthew R. Cruikshank wrote: > Not to flame - but, you guys are smoking something! > Mailmain - to me, anyways - is about a woman who treated you like shit. > It's about the girl you loved who sluffed you off. It's about enjoying the > fact that someone who treated you like hell is now, no longer better off > than you are. It's one of those, "Damn, that's harsh" songs. "I know I'm > heading for the bottom, but I'm riding you all the way!" Paraphrase: "I'm > taking you down with me!" IMO... > -Cruikshank > > That was my first impression of the song as well. Of course I thought that my interpretation may have been skewed by the fact that my relationship had just gone down if flames... Good to know I'm not the only one... Greg ****************************************** *** Sieze the day. *** *** Pull the trigger. Drop the blade. *** *** And watch the rolling heads. *** ****************************************** *** greg@sfa.com *** ****************************************** ------------------------------ From: Avatar Subject: Need for Gardening... Hello people, I spotted the Flower EP and Louder than Love on CD in a record store hereabouts a couple of days ago. Do you guys (and femmes) think I should shell out my cash for them? ( I heard the Flower EP was pretty hard to find) Thanks, - - Avatar, spending much time in the Sound Garden... Don't be surprised if this messages appears a number of times, my last few have. ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Mother Love Bone-any good? From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >I'm sure someone on here has a least one Mother Love Bone album. Are they any >good? Do they sound anything like Soundgarden? > > Yes, I have the Star Lover double CD. Do they sound like Soundgarden - No, other than they have that new sound that came down from Seattle. Well it was really not a new sound - but a sound that was lose for a small time. Anyone that likes Soundgarden should have MLB in their collection - after you hear MLB you get a better understanding for the emotions behind Temple of the Dog (which in my opinion is some of Chris's best work). Jamie ------------------------------ From: "Scott J. Schmidt" Someone posed the question, which SG song got you into the band? For me, it was "Hands All Over" - heard it in "Pacific Heights" and had to have it. "Slaves and Bulldozers" was the song that cemented my love for the band. Has anybody out there ever noticed a vague similarity between CC's voice and that of the lead singer of the Guess Who (what was his name, Bert Cummings?)? I'm not saying overwhelming similarity here, just a vague similarity. I'd love to hear SG do a take on "American Woman". I think it would be bitchin'. Don't let the grendel fool ya, it's still me scott ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: Need for Gardening... Buy both, my friend. I myself had no problem finding Flower, but i did know people so.... The only non album track on that EP is toybox, which is one of my all time favorite songs. But Louder Than Love is a must. And btw, whoever it was that said finding a soundtrack to Lost Angels was impossible, well, i think you are right. -j ***************************************************************************** "Two out of three ain't bad, but its not a passing grade, either." -Jay Stallings ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: Confusion . . . On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Kamarrudin Muaz wrote: > > The first album after the demo was Louder Than Love. > Um, what are you talking about? -j ***************************************************************************** "I don't complain too much. There's just too much wrong with the world." - -Jay Stallings ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Andrew Northcutt Subject: Re: Black Hole Sun... > what the heck, all you SG fans!) heard of SG that got you into them? I also > The Guitarist > I think I saw the video for Rusty Cage and it blew me away! You know, the f#$^^ good riff from the beginning, the guy running and the red light flashing around just made me wanna...wanna...fire...huh,huh...yeah!...hey Bevis...I wanna..like...break somebody's head open...huh...huh. C-YA PEACEMAN-2000 ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: Sabbathy? > > What exactly do you mean by a "Sabbathy" song? > > The Guitarist You must know I meant that the song had a real Black Sabbath type of feel to it, you know, doomy, tuned down, screaming vocals etc. Many SG songs sound very "Sabbathy" - New Damage, Slaves & Bulldozers, Rusty Cage, come to think of it practically everything on Badmotorfinger. Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: Andrew Northcutt Subject: Re: Peyote & Tunings > How do the guitarists on this list go for handling Kim Thayil's tunings when > playing SG stuff on guitar? Do you just grin and bear it, tuner close to > hand, or do you have any special secrets that you know to cope with these > tunings? > > Jackhammer. > >If I really want to play the song, I'll tune it the way it has to be. Of course, there are always exceptions: My Wave can be played in normal tuning, I've NEVER played (nor plan to)Somewhere since it's all in E's. And usually, the one I really enjoy playing are the normal tuning ones or the "dropped 'D'" ones(Fell on BD, Room a ThYW,Outshined,etc.). That's all. C-YA! PEACEMAN-2000 ------------------------------ Subject: Re: From: jsimpson@mail03.mitre.org (Jamesetta Simpson) >Has anybody out there ever noticed a vague similarity between CC's voice >and that of the lead singer of the Guess Who (what was his name, Bert >Cummings?)? I'm not saying overwhelming similarity here, just a vague >similarity. I'd love to hear SG do a take on "American Woman". I think >it would be bitchin'. >scott OK, Scott - I pulled out an old beat up copy of American Woman and your right they do have a similarity voice. American Woman would be a great cover for Chris to do. Of course there are very few songs that I can't image Chris not being able to cover - well maybe not the Bee Gee's. Can't you just see Chris in a white leisure suit doing a little disco (shutter)....... How about something by the Animals (House of the risen' Sun). Jamie ------------------------------ From: Milkman Subject: Ultramega Unknown Maybee someone out there can help me find this album. I've been looking for quite some time, but with no luck. If there is anyone on the list who knows of any good stores, marketplaces, etc. on/near Long Island where they think I might have a shot at getting it, please let me know. I would love you for ever and ever. Thanks. mike ------------------------------ From: Tonerkins@aol.com Subject: Re: Black Hole Sun... I first heard "Jesus Christ Pose" at a friend's house and immediately had to find out what it was. BMF has some great sounds on it. As far as the question if Louder than Love is worth buying I give a overwhelming YES to that. The only problem I have with it (which is not a problem for most of you) is that I just about break my neck trying to get up the stairs to turn the volume down every time Big Dumb Sex comes on so my 5-year doesn't hear the chorus! Can't have her going to kindergarten singing that one. ------------------------------ From: Liesl A Asiu Subject: First SG Experience Well, my first SG sxperience was a vid on MTV - can't even remember the name of of the track but Chris was jumping around on some elevated thing - thought that was pretty good but the real hook came when I got a tape from a drummer boyfriend of mine, on it was Evenflow (PJ), Hunger Strike (TotD) and Outshined . to name a few. I instantly became fans of SG, PJ and I think Hunger Strike is my fave song ever. Liesl >Date: Mon, 16 Oct 1995 09:13:18 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Scott J. Schmidt" >To: somms@MIT.EDU >Content-Length: 593 > >Someone posed the question, which SG song got you into the band? > >For me, it was "Hands All Over" - heard it in "Pacific Heights" and had >to have it. "Slaves and Bulldozers" was the song that cemented my love >for the band. > >Has anybody out there ever noticed a vague similarity between CC's voice >and that of the lead singer of the Guess Who (what was his name, Bert >Cummings?)? I'm not saying overwhelming similarity here, just a vague >similarity. I'd love to hear SG do a take on "American Woman". I think >it would be bitchin'. > >Don't let the grendel fool ya, it's still me > >scott > > ------------------------------ From: Milkman Subject: Cyberian Rhapsody I was just browsing the Web, and I saw something listed for a live online performance featuring music of AIC, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix, and more. I was wondering if anyone knew what the hell it was. Who will be performing these artists' works? Will it be done by a symphony? Now that I have my tickets, how do I view it when the time comes (Nov. 10, I think)? ------------------------------ From: Glenn Wilson <100713.2567@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: Meaning of Searching with .reply . . Hi Lamont It's funny how different people look at songs and have their own interpretation of it. I had always tought Chris Cornell never sang about anything emotional and only the decerning fan would be able to decifer his lyrics and maybe, like yourself, adapt them to their own situation. Maybe I've put Chris on a pedestal myself and your thoughts on Searching with my Good eye Closed has brought a more human side to Soundgarden, I think you've hit the nail on the head so to speak . It goes to show that it's not only a slow song can hold an extreme amount of emotion.. If I could have a wish for when I leave this earth it would be for A Room a Thousand Years Wide to be played, now that really does my head in, in the best possible way of course. Sarahjane.xx ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson Frederick M.) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 16 Oct 1995 >Y'know, I was just thinking, what does SOMMS mean, anyway? "satanoscillatemymetallicsonatas" is a palindrome. I'm sure most people know this, but I just figured it out. >I saw a cd in a local record store that was in the sg section. >Unfortunately, it only had two sg songs on it. The cd was a collection >of demos from Seattle bands. I didn't pay attention to the other bands, >but one of the Soundgarden songs was called "My summoning" or something >like that. That was Seattle Scruffs, a compilation of early demos by SG ('87), Mother Love Bone, and Alice In Chains. "This is my summation" is really "Nothing to say" from Screaming Life (don't ask why). It's an interesting disc, nothing to go into debt for. The version of "Beyond the wheel" has a good, bottom-heavy mix. I'm suprised you found it in a regular cd shop, since it's a bootleg. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jesus, I don't like my penis e-mail Stonehenge Exit Stonehenge e-mail Stonehenge Exit Stonehenge samm@mail.usa1.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson Frederick M.) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 16 Oct 1995 >What was the first >song you (the current reader of this E-mail, whomever it may be . . . oh >what the heck, all you SG fans!) heard of SG that got you into them? It wasn't a song, actually. I read an article describing the band and Ultramega OK in a 1988 Rolling Stone article. I liked what I read, but I couldn't find the tape anywhere (this was pre-cd player for me). Then in late '89, I saw the video for "Loud Love" on Headbangers' Ball. Then I read a review of the album. I looked for it, and this time I found. I came, I found, I liked. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jesus, I don't like my penis e-mail Stonehenge Exit Stonehenge e-mail Stonehenge Exit Stonehenge samm@mail.usa1.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: hooked on SG? What got me hooked on Soundgarden was Black Hole Sun. I seen the video, and while some parts were gross( I thought), overall it was cool. Plus the fact that one of my friends was laying on the floor worshipping them:)-Sara ------------------------------ From: dgarrett@bcs.org.uk (Daniel Garrett) Subject: Re: Tunings > How do the guitarists on this list go for handling Kim Thayil's tunings when > playing SG stuff on guitar? Do you just grin and bear it, tuner close to > hand, or do you have any special secrets that you know to cope with these > tunings? > > Jackhammer. I would have said it was more CC's tunings than Kim's but as for special secrets, I would say most of (not all) SG's material relies on normal, drop D and drop B tunings - just tuning the bottom E string to that particular note. e.g: Drop B tunings - Rusty Cage, Searching WMGEC and Mailman. Drop D tunings - Outshined, Drown Me, New Damage, Slaves & Bulldozers. Normal tuning - Loud Love, Fell on Black Days etc. I've had a hell of a time working some of the others out I can tell you!! Daniel Garrett ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: getting to know you Well, here are all the descriptions that people sent to me. Thanks for the people that send them. Dan Hearsch: my name is dan hearsch. i'm 20 years old, and a senior in my third year at the university of michigan. right now, i hate life. it's friday, and i am in a library failing miserably to get some research done. i'm 6'3", 175 pounds, i play drums, guitar, bass and i sing. i work for general motors in the summer as an intern, and i work at a day care center during the school year. i drink like an irish pirate, and i box to rid myself of the after-effects. oh, and i hate school more than anything in this world, aside from needles Bob: The name is bob. I attend the U. of wash. in seattle. THis is my first year here. I am origninally from a town called Bellingham (80miles north of Seattle). I love SOungGarDeN and mostly everything else that comes out of Seattle and the NorthWest. I have a right to like the music, I am not riding the bandwagon that's been picking up new people since NirVana came to be popular. Dana: I'm a 30 year old working mother who can't believe that she's 30 already!! I still feel (and act) 18.I work at a so-so job because it pays the bills and my 5 year old daughter doesn't want to put up with me hanging around her all day. I know that this isn't the "typical" profile of most Soundgarden fans, but so f***ing what?! I live in Belmont, CA., it's about 25 miles south of San Francisco. It's alright here but I'd really like to move away because it's difficult to meet people here who aren't too afraid to open up and just be themselves. I guess it's probably like that in most places but it just seems like there are too many people here and we're all afraid of one another. I really would like to go back to school and work on getting a degree (and hopefully a job ) in nursing. I got into Soundgarden about 6 years ago after reading a Circus magazine article about them and of course I thought that Chris was "cute" (eewwww!! does that make you nauseous or what!). Once I bought their album, I was hooked. Chris wasn't "cute" to me anymore but I still wanted to know more about them. I've only seen them 3 times, but each show was great!! Aaron: 'm : 18years-old 5foot 9inches tall 180 pounds or so blonde going to college at Northeast Missouri State University in Kirksville a computer science major love SoundGarden! (especially BadMotorFinger) a bachelor etc......... Rona: I'm Rona, I'm 32 and I am an Honours year BSc Maths student at Napier University in Edinburgh, Scotland. I have a 10 year old son called Coinneach (it's Gaelic for Kenneth) and I'm engaged to Stuart, who's 21 and also at Napier (MSc Software Design). I've only been into SG since Superunknown came out, but I'm slowly accumulating a back catologue! The main reason I subscribed to this mailing list was out of curiosity - to see what other people like SG and for what reasons. I myself like them as they have strongly melodic songs, a hell of a lead vocalist, and a "sound" attitude. There's also a LedZep element in there, and I've been into them since I was seven!!(big sister's albums). Favourite SG song : "The Day I Tried To Live" Now about myself: I'm Sara, I am 18 and my b-day is 4/11. I am currently attending UW-Eau Claire, with no major. I have a boyfriend back home. Um, I am short, well 5'5, and have brown eyes and hair,well you'll see what I look like whenI get around to sending in my picture. Um, I really have to get to my French Lab!!! If you want to know anything else, just ask!!Thanks to the people who sent their descriptions in.-Sara:) ------------------------------ From: samm@mail.usa1.com (Samson Frederick M.) Subject: Bootlegs on-line! I don't know if anyone is aware of this, but CDnow sells bootlegs through their on-line catalog. Go to http://cdnow.com and click on "find music". I'm not exactly sure how it all works, but they explain it all somewhere at the site. They have all the regular releases, along with a sizeable collection of Soundgarden bootlegs, imports, videos and t-shirts. (Unfortunately, no Stolen Prayers).Perfect for those without a good store nearby. I suppose it goes without saying that they also have a shitload of Zeppelin bootlegs :D Does this sound like an ad? SSSSSamson - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jesus, I don't like my penis e-mail Stonehenge samm@mail.usa1.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Bootlegs on-line! From: seth > I don't know if anyone is aware of this, but CDnow sells bootlegs through > their on-line catalog. Go to http://cdnow.com and click on "find music". > I'm not exactly sure how it all works, but they explain it all somewhere at > the site. Should our Web page ever be rescued from the murky nonfunctioning depths to which it has sunk, there is actually a direct link to CDnow's Soundgarden selection (they set this up just for us!) from the "Resources" section. You might be able to get to this from the "Miscellany" button, but hey, it's not like I have access to any of my own files, so I don't really know (note the bitterness). seth ------------------------------ From: dts8@ns.hjampis.kiruna.se (Johan Sammelin) Subject: B.H.Sun Computer Graphics Does anybody know why the computer graphics in Black Hole Sun came in later. In the beginning, when they released the video there wasn't any computer graphics. For example, the "blob" that flies out of the baby carriage. Did they release the video before the effects were finished because of some dead line or what? Does anybody know? -Johan Sammelin ------------------------------ From: harrimt5@wfu.edu (Matt Harrington) Subject: Re:What got me into SG > >That gives me an idea for another survey/poll type thing! What was the first >song you (the current reader of this E-mail, whomever it may be . . . oh >what the heck, all you SG fans!) heard of SG that got you into them? >The Guitarist > The first SG song I heard in my small, isolated town was Spoonman on the radio. Even though I liked it, I didn't get into them right away. I give all credit for my true introduction to SG to my friend Greg who will be joining this mailing list. He had bought Superunknown, and we were listening in my car, when the song Superunknown came on. Put it this way, I got so excited we narrowly avoided hitting a mailbox. And from there, the rest is history... -Matt ------------------------------ From: Glen Ryan Subject: 665-->667 backwards In regards to this song backwards I have managed to play it in reverse and it dosn't come out as a satanic message but their is a message recorded. From what I can Here its goes something like this "Santa your my master...I love you santa baby ...you give me everthing .." I feel chris did as a joke because of all the media hype about satanic bands that was in the media.This song in the same vein as Big Dumb Sex joke a about how the music industry has been percieved by the media and people in general G.Ryan ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: Demo question On Sun, 15 Oct 1995, Chicka Jackeen wrote: > I saw a cd in a local record store that was in the sg section. > Unfortunately, it only had two sg songs on it. The cd was a collection > of demos from Seattle bands. I didn't pay attention to the other bands, > but one of the Soundgarden songs was called "My summoning" or something > like that. I could be wrong though because my memory isn't functioning > very well right now. At any rate i know the song was one i haven't seen > listed on the discogs. I'll go in the store again tomorrow and check the > name of the song again. Does anyone else know about this song? Well, > thanx for any help, j > > ***************************************************************************** > "Well i wake up, some dream i made up, no i guess its reality!!!" > -"Plowed" by Sponge > ***************************************************************************** > > I think the disc you are talking about is called "Seattle Scruffs". It has early demos on it from Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, and I think, Mudhoney. It's been sitting in the used bin of a local record store for about two months. Maybe I'll finally go get it. BK ------------------------------ From: sean@ramoth.unl.edu (Sean McCarthy) Subject: Circus mag&Loud Love To Somms@MIT.edu Re:First SG Experience Wow, I remember I was in the 9th grade, still in my Iron Maiden, Def Leppard, Metallica heavy metal stage. I had a subscription to Circus Magazine, and I read a review on Soundgarden. The review was a rave like none that I heard before, you know those reviews that are so powerful, you can't help but go out and buy the tape-The Year-December 1989, the album "Louder Than Love". When I first heard it, I was totally blown away. I wanted to throw away all the crap I was listening to. This was like lava personified. Loud, slow, like an alligator that grabs you and smothers you in a swamp of gigantic riffs. Needless to say, that was all I listened to my 10th grade year(Plus Midnight Oil-Blue Sky Mining). Other students (the chirpy jocks and air-heads) would not even dare listen to something that was not in the top 40. It took about 4 years for them to sing "Black Hole Sun" Which is cool-I guess. They may like the song, but they don't understand the meaning. My Thoughts anyway Peace ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: SG Video > >Sara, um, don't tell me you didn't like the barbie dolls being cooked on >the grill in the Black Hole Sun video..... -j > >Actually, I thought it was kind of cool, but very weird. Just like the rest of the video. And that big tongue that comes flying out. What does everyone else think of this video?-Sara > > ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Getting to know everyone Hey everone! I posted the descriptions that everyone has sent to me, but I have gotten one or two since then. Does anyone else want to tell everyone about themselves. Come on, out of threehundred, someone has to want to. should I beg? Please!!!! J/K. Anyway, send me info about yourselves. Okay? Good. So Iexpect to get 294 more postings in the mail about this subject. - -Sara:) ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: supermegaunknown I know people have asked this before, but where can i get a copy of supermegaunknown. After learning what was on it i realized that i really wanted it, so anyone please help me out. ------------------------------ From: John Darron Subject: somms What became of the t-shirt idea? John ------------------------------ From: BdMtrFngr Subject: mistake I know, it is Ultramega Unknown, now supermega. Thanks to all would-be flamers. ------------------------------ From: Chicka Jackeen Subject: Re: somms On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, John Darron wrote: > What became of the t-shirt idea? > Yeah!!!!!!! I still want that SatanoscillatemymetallicsonataS shirt. -j ***************************************************************************** "Two out of three ain't bad. But it ain't a passing grade, either." - -Jay Stallings ***************************************************************************** ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Well Done Kim Thayil Yesterday I went & bought the CD by The Presidents of the United States of America. (what a mouthful!!). The one which has Kim playing guitar in the last track, "Naked & Famous". And I love it. I reckon it's one of the best buys I've made (and that's really saying something, since I've bought close to 700 albums over the years). I just want to thank whoever it was who wrote to the mailing list about this album - that's what prompted me to actually buy it. I loved the song "Lump", but other than that I had no idea what this band was like. They're great! Very light-hearted, with lots of pretty laid-back songs. Fantastic! But they're NOTHING like Soundgarden. Which is why I admire Kim for going out on a limb & doing something completely different (even if it was playing the guitar for only one song). Btw, my other recent CD purchases include Neil Young's "Mirrorball" (pretty good), and I finally got around to buying Temple of the Dog & the Singles soundtrack. I got those two after people on the list gave me some feedback on them, suggesting I add them to my collection. So thank you, folks!! And I have Soundgarden's "Louder Than Love" on order..............yes, I'm in music heaven again!! Carolyn the Mercedes-Benz Fishtailer (on ya, Jackhammer) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Look at the crowd & tell me whether all are surrounded but none are together Live fast, because if you don't take it, you'll never make it **OFFSPRING** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: Kurt's suicide/murder On 14 October 1995, Samson Frederick M wrote: >At http://www.muohio.edu/~carmance/kurt.html, there is a very extensive >exposition by Tom Grant, the P.I. hired by Courtney Love to find Kurt >Cobain shortly before his death, describing his conviction that Cobain did >not commit suicide... > >Spend enough time reading this and you will never look at Courtney the same >way again... Samson, I had a look at that yesterday on your suggestion. I printed off several pages & took them home to read last night. I couldn't put it down!! Extremely interesting. I'll be printing more today to read later tonight. I also urge others to read this and form your own opinions. What I want to know is: if Kurt was murdered why hasn't there been a murder trial, and why is the evidence collected by Tom Grant allowed to be placed on the www for all to see before such a trial takes place?? Veeeeerry strange to me.............. Carolyn on the Mysterious Fabrication? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm so happy cause today I found my friends - they're in my head Our little group has always been & always will until the end **NIRVANA** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ From: ansel@morgan.com Subject: Believe it or not... At the first of two shows SG played at New York's Armory last year (there is a bootleg available of the second nights performance), Chris broke into "Well, you can tell by the way I use my walk, I'm a woman's man...no time to talk." I'm completely serious, although he was just being mischievous in between equipment adjustments. The crowd also sang along with him as he sang 'Beth' by Kiss for one of the roadies. Also, I have a bootleg on which Chris performs a powerful verse or two of 'American Woman' as a sort of bridge to a SG song. Vikki ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ American Woman would be a great cover for Chris to do. Of course there are few songs I can't image Chris not being able to cover - well maybe the Bee Gee's. ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: Cyberian Rhapsody On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Milkman wrote: > I was just browsing the Web, and I saw something listed for a live online > performance featuring music of AIC, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix, > and more. I was wondering if anyone knew what the hell it was. Who will > be performing these artists' works? Will it be done by a symphony? Now > that I have my tickets, how do I view it when the time comes (Nov. 10, I > think)? I think that there is going to be a live downfeed of pictures and sound of the gigs by the above bands. I'm not sure when it is going to be broadcast, but I know that I've got my tickets :) it will probably be best veiwed through netscape or something. ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: blind dog Subject: Re: getting to know you On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Sara Louise Hoeck wrote: > Well, here are all the descriptions that people sent to me. Thanks for the > people that send them. > > Dan Hearsch: > my name is dan hearsch. i'm 20 years old, and a senior in my third year > at the university of michigan. right now, i hate life. it's friday, and i I'm just wondering whether this sort of stuff is better off being relayed on irc, or at least privately? ----------------------------------- a thousand doors, a thousand lies rooms a thousand years wide ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Carolyn Subject: Re: SG Videos someone wrote: >>Sara, um, don't tell me you didn't like the barbie dolls being cooked on >>the grill in the Black Hole Sun video..... -j Sara replied: >>Actually, I thought it was kind of cool, but very weird. Just like the >rest of the video. And that big tongue that comes flying out. What does >everyone else think of this video?-Sara Guess what? I've never seen ANY soundgarden videos. I rarely watch television, be that music shows or anything else. And in Australia we don't get MTV. And you know what? I reckon this is probably a good thing. This way I have opinions on only the music - the sound - without visual effects clouding my judgement of bands at all.............. Just my thoughts. Carolyn the Masterful Filmstar ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm so happy cause today I found my friends - they're in my head Our little group has always been & always will until the end **NIRVANA** ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Subject: Re: Cyberian Rhapsody From: seth > > I was just browsing the Web, and I saw something listed for a live online > > performance featuring music of AIC, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix, > > and more. I was wondering if anyone knew what the hell it was. Who will > > be performing these artists' works? Will it be done by a symphony? Now > > that I have my tickets, how do I view it when the time comes (Nov. 10, I > > think)? > > I think that there is going to be a live downfeed of pictures and > sound of the gigs by the above bands. I'm not sure when it is going to > be broadcast, but I know that I've got my tickets :) it will probably be > best veiwed through netscape or something. It's actually going to be done by the Seattle Symphony; apparently, it's going to feature symphonic renderings of the bands' music. As far as I know, Soundgarden has given the event its blessings. The concert will include a live audio feed that can be heard using RealAudio software (it's free, but I don't remember the URL) and continuously updated video stills on the Web page. seth ------------------------------ From: "B. Kinser" Subject: Re: Circus mag&Loud Love On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Sean McCarthy wrote: > > > To Somms@MIT.edu > Re:First SG Experience > > Wow, I remember I was in the 9th grade, still in my Iron Maiden, > Def Leppard, Metallica heavy metal stage. I had a subscription > to Circus Magazine, and I read a review on Soundgarden. > The review was a rave like none that I heard before, you > know those reviews that are so powerful, you can't help > but go out and buy the tape-The Year-December 1989, the > album "Louder Than Love". > When I first heard it, I was totally blown away. I wanted > to throw away all the crap I was listening to. This was > like lava personified. Loud, slow, like an alligator that > grabs you and smothers you in a swamp of gigantic riffs. > Needless to say, that was all I listened to my 10th grade > year(Plus Midnight Oil-Blue Sky Mining). Other students > (the chirpy jocks and air-heads) would not even dare > listen to something that was not in the top 40. It took about > 4 years for them to sing "Black Hole Sun" Which is cool-I guess. > They may like the song, but they don't understand the meaning. > My Thoughts anyway > Peace > > > WOW. This is like a flashback. This was the same way I found out about Soundgarden. Loud love was reviewed (It was checked as a "feature pick") and since they gave it such a good review I decided to check it out. This was back when they still had long boxes. And stamped on the front of the box was "Developing artist series. Special low price $11.99" I must say that that was the best twelve bucks I ever spent. Though I am ashamed to admit that I wasn't in ninth grade and still reading Circus, but I was twenty. BK ------------------------------ From: LITTLE JOE Subject: Re: getting to know you Go blind dog, You are right on the money. Who wants to hear bios of all these people, I don't even think that any of them have posted before! As for the subject line determining the value of a message, this is fairly dubious. I still feel obliged to read any message that comes into my box regardless of the subject line, especially lately when messages that aren't delete worthy are few and far between. Getting to know each other is fine, but isn't that what the member directory is for. Posting this sort of thing to the list just means another thread of Soundgardenless material destined for the delete button. ___________________________ = ALIVE IN THE SUPERUNKNOWN = =========================== ------------------------------ From: Kate Mercier Subject: mlb and fork necklaces... First of all, Mother Love Bone doesn't sound much like SG, but they are pretty cool in a sort of glam-rock, 80's way. As far as good songs... like Bone China, Stargazer, Man of Golden Words, Gentle Groove... and everyone's standard "Singles" track: Chloe Dancer/Crown of Thorns. Sweet. And Fork necklaces: I have to say that I'm bummed that other people finally figured out how to make them... my friend Sean and I have been trading custody of the one we made for two years... :-) They aren't so hard to make... just use soft metal forks (Like silver) and a blowtorch... and pliers that won't scratch up the metal too bad. (so fun-- and easy! why, we could even do it at home!) kate ("oh, xana, come back again.") ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Re: getting to know you > >On Mon, 16 Oct 1995, Sara Louise Hoeck wrote: > >> Well, here are all the descriptions that people sent to me. Thanks for the >> people that send them. >> >> Dan Hearsch: >> my name is dan hearsch. i'm 20 years old, and a senior in my third year >> at the university of michigan. right now, i hate life. it's friday, and i > > I'm just wondering whether this sort of stuff is better off being >relayed on irc, or at least privately? > > ----------------------------------- > a thousand doors, a thousand lies > rooms a thousand years wide > ----------------------------------- >I don't think this should be relayed privately. It says right on the subject section getting to know you and if you don't have the time or you don't want to get to know the rest of the people on this list, you didn't have tostart reading it. Okay? Good. -Sara:) > > ------------------------------ From: fennmail@hevanet.com (Christopher Fennell) Subject: Re: Soundgarden Digest, Monday, 16 Oct 1995 On Sun, 15 Oct 1995 Experiment@aol.com wrote: > Y'know, I was just thinking, what does SOMMS mean, anyway? > I believe that SOMMS is an acronym for the palendrome... (S)atan(O)scillate(M)y(M)etallic(S)onatas. Somebody has probably answered this question already. From: "Si tu pouvais savoir..." Subject: Mother Love Bone-any good? I'm sure someone on here has a least one Mother Love Bone album. Are they any good? Do they sound anything like Soundgarden? I don't think they sound like soundgarden at all. I do like the music and I think they would have had much success. Also, I'm kind of interested in where people on this list are from. I'm from Portland,Or. Where's Jamie? Jaimee Fennell ------------------------------ From: Sara Louise Hoeck (Sara Hoeck) Subject: Sorry!!! I'm sorry everyone had to read the people's descriptions. I thought people would be interested. I guess not. Justin-I am sorry. I didn't mean to waste your time. You have to admit, while being very annoying to some people, it was a good thought if not a good idea. YOur right, the list is for talking about Soundgarden and other musical groups. Is that okay now?-Sara ------------------------------ From: URBANO Subject: RealAudio URL >RealAudio software (it's free, but I don't remember the URL) The URL is http://www.realaudio.com/ having troubles with his connection; URB@NO ------------------------------ End of somms Digest [Volume 1 Issue 72] ***************************************